[04:02] <georgereschke> I just installed Ubunto latest on my laptop alongside Windows.  Love it (Ubunto, that is).  I see my windows files in natilis.  When I try to move the files from windows to Ubunto using "right-click" and "move" the files remain on the windows partition.  How do I move them?
[04:03] <urlin2u> georgereschke, try copy and paste or drag them.
[04:03] <urlin2u> not a wubi install is it?
[04:04] <georgereschke> not sure what  wubi install is.  I just followed the instructions for creating the install disc and let it install.  I want to move them from windows.  Not copy them.
[04:06] <urlin2u> georgereschke, you booted the cd?
[04:07] <urlin2u> what are the files?
[04:07] <georgereschke> I created the CD, then chose the option to install along side Windows.  The files are user files:  documents, spreadsheets, etc...
[04:08] <holstein> i would copy, the delete when they are moved, and you make sure all is well
[04:08] <georgereschke> It's not a wubi install.
[04:09] <georgereschke> It seems like that is the default action.  Even if you "move" it leaves the file on the other partition.
[04:10] <holstein> georgereschke: thats what i personally would prefer.. then i would go and delete after the move
[04:39] <urlin2u> holstein, things going good for you?
[04:39] <holstein> sure... not bad, and you?
[04:40] <urlin2u> not bad my last semester for the bachelors, hoping to get enough money for the graduate program to get tenor.
[04:40] <holstein> good luck!... thats great
[04:40] <urlin2u> it would be nice to get back to playing it is where my heart is. :d
[04:43] <holstein> urlin2u: you should come to the #ubuntu-beginners-team channel ->
[04:43] <urlin2u> I have spent a little time there nice crowd I just didn't really have the time to contribute
[04:44] <urlin2u> holstein, soory I put the local group in my answer not the cahnnel there now.
[04:44] <urlin2u> channe
[06:11] <newguy> How am I supposed to get Flash to work in Firefox?
[06:11] <newguy> I've been trying to download the plugin and it doesn't work
[06:11] <pazaco> Hello!
[06:13] <newguy> hello paz
[06:13] <pazaco> Anyone have details on installing Ubuntu on a USB thumb-drive from the .iso file, I'm using a Mac Powerbook g4
[06:14] <newguy> wouldn't it work if you have it on the drive and then use an image reader to boot?
[06:14] <Unit193> newguy: Should just have to install flashplugin-installer
[06:14] <Unit193> '
[06:14] <pazaco> I don't want to toast the Mac
[06:15] <Unit193> Installing onto a flash, as in save docs and such?
[06:15] <hydrox24> pazaco: You'll need something to burn the ISO to a disk, howver for a USB drive its kinda complex to use a ISO without and external program to adapt it for the USB
[06:16] <pazaco> hydrox, i got the correct (i think) .iso on a DVD disk now
[06:16] <newguy> unit: i keep trying that and it doesn't work still
[06:16] <hydrox24> pazaco: did you just copy the .iso to the DVD or did you burn it there (extract it)?
[06:17] <Unit193> !flashissues | newguy
[06:17] <ubot2`> newguy: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[06:17] <pazaco> it downloaded, then hmmm,
[06:17] <newguy> ubot
[06:17] <Unit193> That doesn't seem quite right...
[06:17] <newguy> ubot: thanks man
[06:18] <pazaco> it extracetd I think, and got to the point it wanted to erase my HD, so I stopped it there, it checked itself, also
[06:18] <pazaco> I think??
[06:19] <hydrox24> pazaco: go here:http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[06:19] <pazaco> okay, then
[06:19] <hydrox24> and go to the part with the big "2" next to it
[06:19] <hydrox24> then click the radio buttom for USB stick and mac
[06:19] <hydrox24> then click show me how
[06:19] <newguy> ubot: that doesn't seem to work, even after rebooting firefox
[06:20] <pazaco> ok
[06:22] <Ivoz> how can one unload nvidia modules? (stop them from being loaded)? They've stopped me from booting up
[06:23] <hydrox24> Ivoz: I suggest you go to the non begginer ubuntu channel for that one
[06:23] <hydrox24> (#ubuntu)
[06:24] <Ivoz> they're just talking about random stuff there D:
[06:25] <pazaco> hydrox
[06:25] <pazaco> bak
[06:26] <pazaco> I burned the disk exactly like it shows, so that disk will run Ubuntu without having to install to my system?
[06:27] <pazaco> I'm confused about that still, but that is what it seems to say
[06:31] <pazaco> hi bobo
[06:32] <urlin2u> pazaco, it will run little better on a usb stick as well.
[06:32] <phillw> pazaco: if you select the try without installing it will not touch your system. It runs a bit slow, as it has to keep accessing the CD-Drive which is a lot slower than a hard drive.
[06:32] <bobo37774> pazaco: Hey
[06:33] <pazaco> Thsi Ubuntu I got isnt even relaesed yet, 12.04LTS, i think the one you posted, HYDROX, is the better one
[06:34] <pazaco> phillw: it cant run any slower than i do, when i catch up, i will install on HD
[06:35] <pazaco> its probabl;y actually a license violation on a Mac, and i still use Mac Store supposrt
[06:35] <urlin2u> pazaco, 12.04 is the development, not considered a stable until released.
[06:35] <phillw> if you're on a Mac, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[06:36] <pazaco> not sure how i got routed that way in my search, glad i didn't do anything with it then, until checking things out..
[06:36] <phillw> they are more used to that system.
[06:38] <pazaco> okay, good idea, i'm not doing anything else. I'll set a book mark to the link hydrox gave me (he is away i guess)
[06:38] <pazaco> or (she)
[06:43] <North> hello?
[06:43] <North> I am an Ubuntu beginner
[06:43] <North> ?
[06:43] <North> Anybody here?
[06:53] <daiwalkr> Yep
[06:54] <bobo37774> North is gone already
[06:56] <hydrox24> pazaco: I am back now, sorry
[06:56] <hydrox24> pazaco: & it's a he :)
[07:04] <bobo37774> Hey I heard #ubuntu-beginners is the second most boring chatroom on earth is that true?
[07:05] <hydrox24> bobo37774: no, only if you make it the most boring!
[07:05] <pazaco> how long ago did you hear that?
[07:05] <bobo37774> hydrox24: hahahaha
[07:05] <bobo37774> pazaco: I came to that conlusion right after I left #linux hahaha
[07:06] <pazaco> I shifted from Windows to Mac about 7-8 years ago because
[07:06] <bobo37774> the anticipation is killing me
[07:06] <pazaco> the kids visited sites with all kinds of malware, and it used to be easy to boot up windows from scratch
[07:07] <bobo37774> pazaco: boot up windows from scratch?
[07:07] <bobo37774> pazaco: What do you mean?
[07:07] <pazaco> yeah, they used to give you the full version OEM disk
[07:08] <bobo37774> Oh, yeah. That was a while ago. They don't even have the decency to do that any more
[07:08] <pazaco> it had DOD & Windows, when you started over and re-formatted your HD,
[07:09] <pazaco> you used DOS, it was so easy. Then, only back-up disk. Then Dell outsourced their tech, and you had to learn Swahili or something
[07:09] <pazaco> i just threw my hands in the air
[07:09] <bobo37774> haha
[07:09] <pazaco> Now Apple is following their model into obscuriity,,
[07:10] <urlin2u> bobo37774, you get a recovery partition now and at least one chance at making a image up the the pro version, then it is as many images as you like.
[07:10] <urlin2u> to the*
[07:10] <pazaco> the new Lion OS is the most bloated POS OS ive ever seen
[07:10] <bobo37774> urlin2u: It's not the same. It's just not.
[07:11] <bobo37774> pazaco: More bloated then Ubuntu? ...just kidding. So is that when you switched to Ubuntu?
[07:11] <pazaco> well we had Win2000 at one point, that was a joke too
[07:11] <urlin2u> bobo37774, probably not I rarely use windows, didn't start on windows, I had open source as my first OS.
[07:11] <pazaco> I started with CP/M 86 haha!
[07:11] <bobo37774> urlin2u: Talk about lucky. What was your first distro?
[07:12] <urlin2u> dapper ubuntu and lol I'm 47 years old didn't need a computer till I went back to college.
[07:13] <bobo37774> urlin2u: Nice. Yeah, I did not start computing until 2009 and I was lucky enough to start with vista. Best OS ever hahaha
[07:13] <pazaco> my project is to check out Ubuntu on the old mac, while learning pyton on the new mac, and these could be my last macs
[07:14] <urlin2u> bobo37774, lol
[07:14] <pazaco> python
[07:14] <bobo37774> pazaco: Awesome. Are you going to create some apps for the community some day?
[07:15] <pazaco> I'm not really very good at all this, I am losing ground as fast as i learn
[07:15] <pazaco> well, the MIT 600 course is where i am starting at
[07:15] <bobo37774> Yeah, I barely know bash. I feel like I need to learn at least c and python
[07:15] <bobo37774> and assembly
[07:16] <bobo37774> at least then I will know how my system works
[07:16] <pazaco> to change my career i need html, c c++, java  - -minimum
[07:17] <bobo37774> pazaco: Web stuff?
[07:17] <pazaco> well, i guess so, the old job is printing, so I guess the new job is going to follow in its footsteps
[07:18] <pazaco> I am trained in visual arts
[07:18] <Snicksie> bobo37774, pazaco : I understand you'd like to talk to eachother, but as you might know, this channel is meant for support ;) could you continue your conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic ? :)
[07:18] <hydrox24> bobo37774: In this day and age knowing how your system works is called "A life goal"
[07:18] <bobo37774> hydrox24: Someday. Someday.
[07:18] <pazaco> Snicksie, no problem, we just got bored
[07:19] <bobo37774> Snicksie: Still waiting for North to come back from #ubuntu
[07:19] <bobo37774> Snicksie: ok ok going back to complete radio silence
[07:20] <Snicksie> thats not needed ofcourse, but offtopic business is preferred in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <pazaco> Snick, thanks for the link to that channel, I cant get /list on Freenode without freezing my system
[07:20] <Snicksie> you had a problem bobo37774 ? :)
[07:20] <Unit193> pazaco: Use /msg alis help list
[07:21] <pazaco> yeah i might try that too UNIt
[07:21] <bobo37774> Snicksie: No I was kidding. There was a new person "North" who came here looking for help but left before anyone could respond.
[07:21] <Snicksie> ah, i see ;)
[07:21] <bobo37774> Snicksie: I was hoping to be of service to my mother distro community
[07:23] <Snicksie> well, of course you can be ^^ we have an ubuntu beginners team (for people who would like to contribute to ubuntu). more information about our awesome ubuntu beginners team here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam :p
[07:23] <pazaco> hasta la vista, and thanks for all the fish!!!
[07:24] <bobo37774> pazaco: See you. Take care.
[07:27] <bobo37774> Snicksie: That link just points me back here hahaha. Are you messing with me hehe?
[07:35] <bobo37774> Snicksie: Take care.
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[16:34] <bobweaver> Hello there I am having trouble with my ect/resov.conf   file on my new static line and was wondering if someone could help me? I was following this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html     and am at this point Task: Define new DNS servers     and do not understand where he is getting these ipadress like the one 202.54.1.20    where is he getting that ?
[17:00] <holstein> bobweaver: im either going to have someone step up in our LUG and do a presentation on this kind of thing, or im going to RTFM and become more aware soon
[17:01] <holstein> i was assuming it was my method if defining the dns server that was failing for me in the past
[17:02] <holstein> bobweaver: what are you going for... local dns?
[17:02] <bobweaver> not sure
[17:03] <bobweaver> I want to be able to download programs and updates
[17:03] <bobweaver> right now I can not
[17:03] <holstein> bobweaver: i just put opendns IP's in my servers config
[17:03] <bobweaver> how to do that ?
[17:04] <holstein> i didn it in the /etc/resolv.conf file
[17:04] <holstein> did*
[17:04] <bobweaver> that is what I do not understand what the meeaning of thousse lines are ?
[17:05] <holstein> bobweaver: thats what your server uses for dns
[17:05] <holstein> 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 are the 2 i used
[17:05] <bobweaver> no it is for a program that I wrote that finds backlinks and other seo stuff for charitys localy
[17:06] <holstein> the point it to the local dns server
[17:06] <holstein> then*
[17:06] <bobweaver> I also want to host sojme websites on it for homeless selters ect to raise money for them
[17:07] <bobweaver> it is just that I so not understand how to fix /etc/resolv.conf    the settings from the last time it was dhcp are still there .. I think
[17:09] <bobweaver> how to find out what the local dns server is ?
[17:10] <bobweaver> what does domain and search mean in /etc/resolv.conf   also what is  nameserver ?
[17:10] <holstein> bobweaver: the gateway will be using some dns addresses, and you can point to it, or just use the opendns ones i suggested either or both places
[17:11] <holstein> bobweaver: its bascially so you can refer to google as google.com instead of 74.125.159.103
[17:11] <bobweaver> oh
[17:11] <holstein> bobweaver: i have not made a complex resolv.conf file before.. only dns
[17:11] <bobweaver> it resolves the dns
[17:12] <holstein> yup.. there are plently of them, and you liley have ones from the ISP now... in my case, the router where i am now wasnt passing its info on to the my server, os i just gave it the openDNS ones
[17:13] <bobweaver> so right now it can not understand what my dns to ip is ans that is what /etc/resolv.conf is there for ?
[17:13] <bobweaver> how to get opendns one ?
[17:13] <holstein> bobweaver: if you have ddwrt for example (locally) it will just solve them
[17:13] <holstein> my server is prometheus for example, and i can refer to it as that... or by IP
[17:14] <holstein> i can use ddwrt as the localDNS.. or i couls set up a server, which is what i would like to learn more about
[17:14] <holstein> could*
[17:14] <holstein> 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 are the open DNS ones
[17:14] <holstein> http://www.opendns.com/
[17:15] <bobweaver> ddwrt is linux forware for router correct ?
[17:15] <holstein> well, most firmware for routers is linux.. ddwrt is the opensource one
[17:15] <holstein> i like to support opendns.. they have a really nice service (for free) called family shield
[17:17] <holstein> http://blog.opendns.com/2010/06/23/introducing-familyshield-parental-controls/ you change your DNS at the gateway, and porn is blocked, and well as other known bad things
[17:20] <holstein> the google dns's are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[17:20] <bobweaver> I also see that open dns works for ipcop that is coool
[17:21] <holstein> if the ISP gives the choice, i switch to opendns
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[17:23] <bobweaver> so this is what I did opened /etc/resolv.conf  added the nameserer address for open dns commented out the old ones and am now rebooting
[17:25] <holstein> bobweaver: probably dont need the reboot, but it wont hurt :)
[17:26] <bobweaver> holstein:  Dude you are so flippin awesome thanks for helping me have not tested yet but thanks so much for helping me
[17:27] <holstein> bobweaver: sure... im reading/learning about this stuff as well.. its nice to sound it all out :)
[17:27] <bobweaver> IT WOPRKED
[17:27] <bobweaver> \o/
[17:27] <bobweaver> I can now update
[17:28] <bobweaver> and install things with out finding .debs
[17:28] <holstein> \o/
[17:29] <holstein> yeah, that was a head-scratcher for me too... but the router here is from the ISP, and locked down quite a bit... not sure why my server being outside the DHCP range makes it not want to get dns..
[17:36] <bobweaver> this is great not only did I learn something I also fixed something also holstein thanks again !
[19:53] <witchyta> ok
[19:57] <witchyta> hi phillw
[21:49] <wahzen> Hi, my ethernet is dropping out every few minutes.  Dual boot machine.  Win 7 connection no problems.  Problem isolated to Ubuntu.
[21:49] <wahzen> Asus P8Z68-M Pro motherboard with Realtek 8111E ethernet controller
[21:50] <wahzen> Already replaced r8169 driver with r8168 (downloaded from Realtek)
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