[04:53] <viru7> hi
[14:59] <ogra_> *fnop*
[14:59]  * davidm waves @ NCommander 
[15:01] <NCommander> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology`> Meeting started Thu Jan 26 15:01:02 2012 UTC.  The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[15:01] <ogra_> i added an agenda item btw
[15:01] <NCommander> whos here?
[15:01] <rbasak> o/
[15:01] <ahs3> \o
[15:02] <ppisati> o/
[15:02] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2012/20120126
[15:03] <NCommander> we have no standing actions items so
[15:03] <janimo> hi
[15:03] <NCommander> [link] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-arm.html
[15:03] <cmagina> o/
[15:03] <NCommander> we really need to get workitems closed off
[15:04]  * ogra_ close one today :)
[15:04] <ogra_> *closed
[15:04] <GrueMaster> The graph would look a little more even if the bar was reset.
[15:05] <GrueMaster> (still not good, though)
[15:05]  * davidm waves @ NCommander 
[15:05] <NCommander> morning davidm
[15:05] <janimo> me too, but again wrong syntax. sigh
[15:05] <GrueMaster> And we still have non-arm stuff on there.
[15:06] <ogra_> yes, because ubuntu-arm contains non arm people
[15:06] <ogra_> 7me wonders why we have the same statements over and over again every week
[15:07] <NCommander> ogra_: its probably easier to simply look at the topic specs vs. the team spec
[15:07] <ogra_> bar wont be reset, ubuntu-arm isnt canonical-arm (on your guys request, i was trying to prevent that back then)
[15:07] <NCommander> anyway
[15:07] <NCommander> [topic] Ubuntu ARM Buglist cleanup (everyone to get rid of rotting untouched bugs for obsolete releases) Bugs we are subscribed to
[15:07] <ogra_> the list currently has 230 bugs open
[15:08] <ogra_> of which (guessed) 130 are rotten crap we will never fix
[15:08] <janimo> I'll clean up the ftbfs list
[15:08] <ogra_> i would like everyone to look through it over the next week to close what we will never touch
[15:08] <NCommander> [link] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-arm&field.tag=
[15:08] <janimo> buglist
[15:08] <ogra_> NCommander, arch
[15:08] <NCommander> ugh
[15:08] <ogra_> *argh i meant
[15:09] <ogra_> everyone just use the link on the agenda page so NCommander doesnt need to paste it ;)
[15:09] <ogra_> (i guess it extends the IRC limit anyway)
[15:09] <NCommander> ogra_: looking at the least briefly, almost all of these bugs look valid
[15:09] <ogra_> can we make an action out of that for next week
[15:10] <ogra_> NCommander, you looked at all 230 ?
[15:10] <ogra_> surely the high ones are valid
[15:10] <GrueMaster> Some of these bugs may have open upstream bugs, which will keep them open in LP.
[15:10] <NCommander> [action] team to review ubuntu-armel master buglist andclean it out
[15:10] <meetingology`> ACTION: team to review ubuntu-armel master buglist andclean it out
[15:10] <ogra_> right
[15:10] <ogra_> thats what we need to look at
[15:10] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander)
[15:11] <rbasak> What's the status of the kernel regression/memory hole issue? bug 920511 bug 921137
[15:12] <NCommander> Initial uploads for the Marvell board will take place today, getting all the userspace bits ready in preperation for a kernel upload
[15:12] <GrueMaster> I think I saw a new kernel in the build process for panda.
[15:12] <ogra_> you upload the board ? *g*
[15:12] <rbasak> So we're rolling back to not requiring memory hole parameters?
[15:12] <ogra_> yup. omap4 had an upload, should be built already but meta is missing
[15:13] <GrueMaster> rbasak: Save it for kernel topic
[15:13] <ogra_> right
[15:13] <ppisati> they told "it's in the pipe"
[15:13] <ppisati> *tole me
[15:13] <ppisati> argh
[15:13] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)
[15:14] <rbasak> Could I ask that the bug be kept updated on what the current plan is please? This issue pretty much halted development for a number of developers
[15:14] <ogra_>  given the changes in the TI kernel, we wont be requiring the mem= params anymore :)
[15:14] <GrueMaster> Filed a new bug (Bug #921934 ) on omap3 last night.
[15:14] <ogra_> which means i'll drop them as soon as the new kernel binary is there from the preinstalled builds
[15:15] <ogra_> netinst never had them i think
[15:15] <GrueMaster> No, but there is still a valid bug on netinstall in that it doesn't have a way to add kernel parameters during installation.
[15:15] <ogra_> right, the f-k-i bug is something different
[15:16] <ogra_> should be a two line fix or so, and i thought you said NCommander was working on it
[15:16] <NCommander> ogra_: thats getting rolled into when I told f-k for armadaxp
[15:17] <rbasak> will the installer need to be updated after the new kernel is built in the archive?
[15:17] <ogra_> ah, great
[15:17] <ogra_> yes
[15:17] <ogra_> if the ABI was bumped at least
[15:17]  * ogra_ isnt sure it was
[15:17] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:17] <rbasak> what do we need to do to make sure it happens?
[15:18] <janimo> calligra fix take two curently building
[15:18] <rbasak> and how long do we think it'll be before the breakage is fixed in the archive?
[15:18] <ogra_> rbasak, wait for the kernel and meta and bump the d-i config and rebuild
[15:18]  * ogra_ looked at some FTBFS, thzere are still many upstream issues in universe 
[15:18] <ogra_> like gthread calls having changed etc
[15:18] <rbasak> ok, thanks
[15:19] <NCommander> in main, Qt went and is crying in the corner
[15:19] <NCommander> /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted
[15:20] <ogra_> puch
[15:20] <ogra_> err
[15:20] <ogra_> ouch even
[15:20] <NCommander> I suspect it needs to be built on something with more RAM/swap
[15:21] <ogra_> was that a panda it built on ?
[15:21] <NCommander> I can't keep track of which machine is what in the buildd pool
[15:21] <ogra_> if so, it might be tricky :)
[15:21] <ogra_> the pandas should all have panda in their name now i was told
[15:22] <NCommander> [action] NCommander to debug memory-exhaustation build issue with lamont
[15:22] <meetingology`> ACTION: NCommander to debug memory-exhaustation build issue with lamont
[15:22] <ppisati> GrueMaster: i'm on ompa3 mmc bug right
[15:22] <ppisati> sorry, i was in another window, bisecting...
[15:22] <NCommander> Kernel version: 2.6.38-1209-omap4 #20-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Jan 4 19:45:37 UTC 2012 armv7l
[15:22] <NCommander> ^- ogra
[15:22] <ogra_> aha
[15:23] <GrueMaster> ppisati: I didn't assign it to you, but I can.
[15:23] <ogra_> thats really bad then
[15:23] <NCommander> ogra_: I'll look at with lamont today
[15:23] <NCommander> anyway
[15:23] <lamont> NCommander: that could also be done with #webops
[15:23] <ogra_> gievn they usually have 20G swap
[15:23] <ogra_> move ?
[15:23] <NCommander> ogra_: its possibly ld has hit the 4 GiB process minute
[15:23] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh)
[15:23] <ogra_> yeah
[15:24] <NCommander> s/miute/limit/g
[15:24]  * ogra_ knew what you meant :)
[15:24] <ogra_> somehow ...
[15:24] <ppisati> GrueMaster: go ahead
[15:24] <GrueMaster> Doing a quick screen of preinstalled images prior to milestone next week.
[15:25] <GrueMaster> Found several issues with omap (kernel mmc, new u-boot but old MLO mismatch)
[15:25] <ogra_> didnt infinity (where is he) take care for the latter yesterday ?
[15:25]  * ogra_ saw some f-k uploads
[15:26] <GrueMaster> Not much has happened in attempting to automate preinstall testing due to preseed issues with oem-config.
[15:26] <ogra_> do we actually have a bug ?
[15:26]  * ogra_ cant remember 
[15:26] <GrueMaster> ogra_: I'm just reporting status.
[15:26] <GrueMaster> For the kernel, yes.
[15:26] <ogra_> i plan to look into that
[15:26] <GrueMaster> Bug #921934
[15:27] <ogra_> for oem-config preseeding being broken
[15:27] <ogra_> mmc is on paolos desk already :)
[15:27] <GrueMaster> I'll have to look, but I believe so.
[15:27] <ogra_> k
[15:27] <ogra_> feel free to assign to me
[15:27] <GrueMaster> And I think you filed it.
[15:27] <ogra_> i filed one for oem-config not running in chroots
[15:28] <ogra_> anyway, lets do that offline
[15:28] <GrueMaster> Ok.
[15:28] <NCommander> [topic] Linaro Updates (rsalveti)
[15:28] <ogra_> unity and nux were merged !
[15:28] <ogra_> everyone cheer for linaro !
[15:29] <ogra_> (compiz still missing though)
[15:29]  * NCommander plays generic YAY sound effect
[15:29] <davidm> That is good news
[15:29] <ogra_> davidm, well, these two were the easy ones :)
[15:29] <ogra_> all arm code is fidefed anyway
[15:29] <davidm> Ya, but at least they are done now
[15:29]  * ppisati wonders what nux is...
[15:29] <ogra_> *ifdefed
[15:29]  * NCommander wonders where rsalveti is
[15:29] <ogra_> ppisati, widget lib that unity uses
[15:30] <ppisati> ah
[15:30]  * ppisati is ignorant...
[15:30]  * rsalveti waves
[15:30] <rsalveti> 1 sec
[15:30] <ogra_> yeah, wait until we can mopdprobe unity and you will *have to* care :P
[15:30] <rsalveti> release almost out
[15:30] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/linaro-dev-platform/+milestone/12.01
[15:31] <rsalveti> New u-boot-linaro, USB SPL working, and new SPL for omap3 (guess it's fixed at the image already)
[15:31] <rsalveti> Enablement testing for wifi, bluetooth and basic graphics at LAVA, what could also help validating the omap3/4 images for Ubuntu.
[15:31] <rsalveti> XBMC ready image was published, working quite well on Panda. Work in progress to rebase to eden's beta 2 and fix a few other issues to be compatible with other boards.
[15:31] <rsalveti> Kernel CI for our packages available at https://ci.linaro.org/jenkins/view/Ubuntu%20CI%20PKG/. That can help people trying to check/test a newer kernel for the boards we support (like imx53).
[15:31] <rsalveti> Automated cross-buildd is now using sbuild with multiarch, and getting package notification with reprepro/rebuildd. Logs available at http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/ (future planning to improve the interface a bit, and also work on some remaining issues, like fixing apt-get build-dep -a).
[15:31] <NCommander> anything else?
[15:31]  * ogra_ also saw you switched to proper seeds, tasks and metapackages today :)
[15:32] <ogra_> for image builds
[15:32] <rsalveti> yup \o/
[15:32] <ogra_> yay
[15:32] <NCommander> rsalveti: anything else?
[15:32] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: any issue with omap3?
[15:32] <rsalveti> nops, I'm fine
[15:32] <NCommander> [topic] AOB
[15:32] <ogra_> rsalveti, more on the userspace and build side
[15:32] <ogra_> (omap3 that is)
[15:32] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: I haven't been able to fully test the new u-boot.
[15:33] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[15:33] <ogra_> s/build/image build/
[15:33] <rsalveti> let me know about any issues
[15:33] <GrueMaster> It seems ok so far.  What is the status on the usb boot part?
[15:35] <NCommander> is ther eanything else or can I close?
[15:35] <NCommander> going once
[15:35] <NCommander> twice
[15:35] <NCommander> three times
[15:36] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: should be working
[15:36] <NCommander> #endmeeting
[15:36] <meetingology`> Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 15:36:01 2012 UTC.
[15:36] <meetingology`> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-26-15.01.moin.txt
[15:36] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: jcrigby will have a blog post about it
[15:36] <rsalveti> with instructions
[15:36] <GrueMaster> ok
[15:36] <ogra_> NCommander, can you wait next time until we are finished