[17:39] <Kaleo> rsalveti: hey
[17:39] <rsalveti> Kaleo: hey, what's up?
[17:39] <Kaleo> rsalveti: I upgraded my panda (dist-upgrade)
[17:40] <Kaleo> rsalveti: is there anything I need to do to make Ubuntu TV run faster? :)
[17:48] <rsalveti> Kaleo: are you using the linaro overlay ppa? (with oneiric)
[17:48] <rsalveti> faster than what I got running at my panda? guess you could have that by improving the driver or your own code :-)
[18:04] <Kaleo> rsalveti: yep I am (double checkingÃ)
[18:04] <Kaleo> rsalveti: so no secret local magic heh :)
[18:05] <rsalveti> Kaleo: not atm
[18:08] <robclark> fwiw, avoid metacity compositing or other window managers that are doing compositing..
[18:08] <Kaleo> rsalveti: yep
[18:08] <Kaleo> rsalveti: good point
[18:09] <robclark> but the normal ubuntu-tv setup should be fine for 1080p assuming all the hw decode/gpu, and eglimage supporting qtmobility is in place
[18:09] <Kaleo> robclark: good point :)
[18:09] <Kaleo> robclark: well, it's "fine"
[18:09] <Kaleo> robclark: just the rendering is not fast enough in my eyues
[18:09] <Kaleo> eyes*
[18:10] <robclark> hmm, it should be ok for 30fps or so at least..  although w/ unpatched qtmobility it will look like a slideshow..
[18:11] <robclark> I'm not sure if there is any debug option to enable fps display like you have in xbmc (if not, that would be a useful thing for development)
[18:11] <Kaleo> robclark: QML_SHOW_FRAMERATE=1
[18:11] <robclark> ahh, that is useful
[18:12] <Kaleo> robclark: in the worst moment I get frame painting taking up to 95ms
[18:12] <Kaleo> robclark: not quite 30fps :)
[18:12] <robclark> ugg, that doesn't seem right
[18:12] <Kaleo> robclark: not what you get?
[18:12] <robclark> I guess I would have noticed if it was only 10fps ;-)
[18:12] <robclark> I don't suppose it is happening every ~10sec?
[18:13] <robclark> (known issue caused by DVI support.. which somehow I don't see on ubuntu 11.10 kernel)
[18:13] <Kaleo> robclark: hmmm, no, it's happening when I scroll up and down in the dash' categories
[18:14] <Kaleo> robclark: it's using HDMI
[18:14] <robclark> oh, hmm, ok..   I had been paying more attention to video playback and less to the GUI..
[18:14] <Kaleo> robclark: it's 1920x1080
[18:14] <Kaleo> :)
[18:14] <robclark> fwiw, that issue was effecting HDMI.. it was caused by a delay when polling DVI for connection (which happens every ~10s)
[18:15] <robclark> but that would be some delay that you hit every ~10s or so
[18:16] <robclark> fwiw, I think a proper database is needed for handling large libraries of videos..  I had noticed that if I have a lot of videos in my lib that slows down the UI..
[18:16] <robclark> (I guess it ends up opening the .nfo files for each clip?)
[18:16]  * robclark has ~500gb of clips, which xbmc handles ok, but brings ubuntu-tv to it's knees
[18:17] <robclark> (but I attribute that to the early prototype stage of ubuntu-tv)
[18:32] <Kaleo> robclark: oh yeah, the look up of videos is absolutely not production ready
[18:32] <Kaleo> robclark: it's a quick hack
[18:32] <Kaleo> robclark: and a store (db) is dearly needed
[18:32] <robclark> yeah.. at least things like seek/pause/play work well w/ native gst decoder..
[18:33] <robclark> but I really look fwd to the point where I can start using ubuntu-tv for real instead of xbmc
[18:33] <Kaleo> robclark: :)
[18:33] <Kaleo> robclark: if you happen to have figures from QML_SHOW_FRAMERATE, let me know
[18:34] <robclark> ok.. will probably be tonight, I have ubuntu-tv setup on my htpc panda in my livingroom
[19:20] <tgm4883> Has the UbuntuTV stuff made it back to Unity that is in 12.04 yet?
[19:25] <tgm4883> Kaleo, is that (a db) in the roadmap? Or is it something that would need to be done in the scope side?
[19:26] <Kaleo> tgm4883: no it has not made it back yet
[19:26] <Kaleo> tgm4883: it won't be included in 12.04
[19:26] <Kaleo> tgm4883: too late for that
[19:26] <tgm4883> hmm
[19:26] <Kaleo> tgm4883: but there is an idea of having a PPA with a more polished version of it though
[19:26] <tgm4883> Kaleo, I'm setting up a 11.10 VM that I can play with
[19:27] <tgm4883> I can only get so far using only the video lens
[19:27] <Kaleo> tgm4883: hmmm, better if you have a VM with hw accelerated OpenGL enabled
[19:27] <tgm4883> Speaking of, the DVR functionality, would that be considered a lens as well?
[19:30] <tgm4883> Kaleo, basically, I'm trying to figure out the best place to put mythtv recordings for this. Right now I've got it going to the videos lens, but that doesn't work out so well since the videos lens is trying to get data from .nfo files
[19:31] <tgm4883> I'm setting up a test environment so I can see how things in the recordings directory are handled, that might answer my question a bit better
[19:48] <Kaleo> tgm4883: it would not be considered a lens since it does not use at all the lens infrastructure
[19:48] <Kaleo> tgm4883: actually I thought you meant EPG
[19:48] <Kaleo> tgm4883: for the recordings themselves
[19:49] <Kaleo> tgm4883: they are supposed to appear in the last category of the video lens
[19:49] <Kaleo> tgm4883: design wise, though of course, it's not implemtned :)
[19:49] <Kaleo> tgm4883: I gotta dash
[19:49] <Kaleo> tgm4883: have a nice evening!
[19:52] <tgm4883> Kaleo, thanks for the info
[19:57] <mhall119> tgm4883: ideally you would have a mythtv scope that feeds data about available videos to the video lens
[19:57] <tgm4883> mhall119, yea that is what I have right now :)
[19:58] <tgm4883> unfortunately all it does is feed the URI, there doesn't seem to be the ability to feed it much more than that, title and comment
[20:00] <mhall119> uri, name and description
[20:00] <mhall119> what else do you need?
[20:00] <mhall119> are you talking the extended description and whatnot they have in the demo?
[20:01] <mhall119> that's not currently supported by the Lens infrastructure
[20:01] <mhall119> it may have to be a separate app
[20:07] <tgm4883> mhall119, description, season, episode
[20:07] <tgm4883> things you would generally want in a DVR ;)
[20:08] <mhall119> tgm4883: hmm, that would make sense for episodic shows, but not movies
[20:08] <tgm4883> mhall119, which is what mythtv is used for