[12:27] <ogra_> hey, are there any known probs with the new X abi and themeing ? 
[12:28] <ogra_> i'm using an nvidia tegra driver over here, according to nvidia it should work fine with ABI 11 but i see a lot of small issues in firefox, with the overlay toolbars and general themes
[14:11] <tjaalton> ogra_: probably a driver bug then
[15:19] <Sarvatt> ogra_: try downgrading to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pixman/0.24.0-1 ?
[15:19] <ogra_> Sarvatt, ah, thanks, will try that later today 
[15:19]  * ogra_ has meetings all over the day
[15:20] <tjaalton> oh right, that got updated
[15:20] <Sarvatt> ogra_: I'm not sure what kind of corruption you're getting, but there is a bug in the newer pixman
[15:20] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55873
[15:20] <Sarvatt> instead of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55872 with 0.24.0
[15:20] <Sarvatt> oh got updated?
[15:21] <Sarvatt> ah got my hopes up they already released a revert of what broke it :)
[15:21] <tjaalton> nah meant that I synced 0.24.2
[15:25] <jcristau> ssp posted a revert patch for that one aiui?
[15:26] <Sarvatt> yeah http://mid.gmane.org/ye8ehunr1fm.fsf@llama16.cs.au.dk http://mid.gmane.org/ye8y5sv8s46.fsf@llama16.cs.au.dk
[15:30] <orated> Hello!
[15:33] <orated> I need some help with Dell XPS 15 dual graphics card. I used  - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15#Optimus_.2BAC8_Graphics_cards - and followed - echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  - command to turn off the card but it gives error of -  # ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  ls: cannot access /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory - As per lspci, 
[15:33] <orated> there there is Nvidia card detected but I'm not able to switch if off. How to fix this?
[15:34] <tjaalton> it's not possible to select from bios?
[15:35] <orated> No, I don't see any option in BIOS to disable second graphics card
[15:41] <orated> tjaalton: But howcome switch directory is not present in my system?
[15:42] <tjaalton> orated: no idea..
[15:43] <tjaalton> using the distro kernel and not your own?
[15:44] <orated> Well, the instruction in the same wiki to completely disable the Nvidia card works though
[15:44] <ogra_> Sarvatt, hmm, now i had time to read the bug, i think my issues are worse than just badly rendered triangles
[15:44] <orated> 3.0.0-15-generic 
[15:45] <tjaalton> yeah blacklisting nouveau makes sense
[15:45] <orated> But I'm not sure if its completely disabled
[15:45] <tjaalton> check the power usage
[15:47] <orated> yes before blacklisting I remember the number but not the unit.. I remember 159 (unit) and after blacklisting, now it says - grep rate /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state - around 3000 mA
[15:48] <orated> which changes to 1mA to at times unknown
[15:48] <orated> on battery
[15:49] <orated> power in watts but the command listed in wiki gives current
[15:49] <orated> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state gives no value for power here
[15:56] <tjaalton> use powertop-1.13
[16:09] <orated> tjaalton: I don't think its possible to get power rating with a software tool. I tried powertop.. It gives Summary: 1008.9 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/second and 0.0 VFS ops/sec and table, nothing in watts
[16:15] <tjaalton> that's why I said powertop-1.13
[16:20] <orated> ok installed 1.13 now
[16:20] <orated> and pinned it
[16:21] <tjaalton> it's a separate package, no need to pin
[16:21] <orated> ok
[16:21] <orated> I used http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/powertop
[16:22] <orated> and locked the version*
[16:22] <tjaalton> the archive has both versions
[16:22] <orated> ah
[16:23] <orated> Well, I will use from the archive later then. Now after running powertop, is the number within brackets under Top causes for wakeups in mW ?
[16:24] <orated> I see Wakeups-from-idle per second : 138.1    interval: 15.0s no ACPI power usage estimate available
[16:25] <tjaalton> run powertop-1
[16:25] <tjaalton> hmm
[16:25] <jcristau> orated: on battery, or ac?
[16:25] <orated> ah
[16:26] <jcristau> the acpi power usage estimate thing only works on battery afaik
[16:26] <tjaalton> right
[16:26] <orated> ok on battery - Power usage (ACPI estimate): 38.9W (2.7 hours)
[16:26] <tjaalton> wow :)
[16:26] <tjaalton> my t420s takes ~9
[16:27] <orated> Now, what does - 888.0 represent in Top causes for wakeups:  53.0% (888.0)   [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI> ?
[16:27] <jcristau> it represents 888 wakeups
[16:28] <orated> I'm not sure how does it conform if the secondary GPU is disabled
[16:28] <orated> probably not
[16:31] <tjaalton> right, sounds like it's still powered on
[16:33] <orated> any other suggestion then?
[16:34] <tjaalton> not really..
[16:35] <orated> It says now - Power usage (ACPI estimate): 31.4W (3.2 hours) (long term: 100.1W,/1.0h)
[16:35] <orated> Ok
[16:35] <tjaalton> this thinkpad is the only hybrid gfx machine I've had
[16:35] <tjaalton> and it has a bios option to choose
[16:36] <orated> thinkpad allows to disable secondary gfx card in bios, yes
[16:44] <orated> anyway thanks tjaalton jcristau
[19:27] <bryceh> cnd, for bug 754000 the branch is in the patch pilot queue for upload sponsorship, but it's a bit ambiguous whether it should go in
[19:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 754000 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Running Unity disables Xorg's 3-finger click support (middle click) (affects: 55) (dups: 4) (heat: 245)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754000
[19:28] <bryceh> cnd, should I upload it, or should I put the branch back to work in progress to remove it from the sponsor queue?
[19:28] <bryceh> (I've checked that it builds and written a changelog entry)
[19:51] <bryceh> cnd, I don't have touch hardware I can test it on, but am wondering maybe just toss the patch in and see if anyone complains?
[21:21] <cnd> bryceh, the patch doesn't apply to precise anymore
[21:21] <cnd> and I worry that it could have regressions if applied as an SRU
[21:21] <cnd> unfortunately, I haven't had enough time to test it
[21:22] <cnd> but it modifies a moderately complex area of the code
[21:24] <bryceh> cnd, ok sounds like you would be against it, so I will unmark it for sponsorship
[21:24] <cnd> bryceh, I can leave a comment if you are busy
[21:25] <bryceh> I'm patch piloting today, so it's what I'm supposed to do
[21:27] <cnd> ok
[21:39] <bryceh> cnd, ok it's dropped from the sponsor queue