[00:00] <deitarion> downbeam: Ok. Do you want to keep the right-click menu you currently have and just add "Desktop Preferences" or do you want to switch to the menu that has options for manipulating desktop icons like Create New, Paste, Sort Files, and Select All.
[00:01] <wrwrwrw> how to assemble existing RAID (mirror) when running from livecd?
[00:01] <downbeam> i just want to switch
[00:01] <deitarion> downbeam: In the "Desktop Preferences" window, click the "Advanced" tab. You should see a checkbox labeled "Show menus provided by window managers when desktop is clicked". Uncheck that and you should be good.
[00:02] <downbeam> i don't have that on lubuntu
[00:03] <deitarion> Which version of Lubuntu? I'm on oneiric ocelot (11.10) and it's there.
[00:03] <downbeam> and when i type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop into the terminal it says E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[00:03] <downbeam> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:04] <acerimmer> !paste|downbeam
[00:04]  * Star_Light bye all
[00:04] <downbeam> did you see that deit?
[00:05] <deitarion> downbeam: Yeah. I'm just not sure what might cause that. Give me a sec to think.
[00:05] <Tellmarch> downbeam, you might have another application running
[00:05] <Tellmarch> i mean, a package application
[00:05] <downbeam> i tried it again i think it will work now..
[00:05] <urlin2u> downbeam, you have any other package loaders open like synaptic or the software center?
[00:06] <downbeam> i dont know i just apt-geted kubuntu-desktop so i hope that works
[00:08] <rtorto> Hello. I have a problem. Sound is being output to both my speakers(plugged in to the back of pc) and my headphones(plugged in the front) when I choose analog output connector, and to neither when I choose analog headphones connector. How do I get this to behave properly?
[00:11] <neo31> graft, it uses WPA-PSK for authentication and TKIP for encryption
[00:11] <magicJ> rtorto: i would believe that there is just one set of hadware with two connectors - so answer is - plug in what you want
[00:11] <sherif> hi
[00:12] <sherif> anyone help?
[00:13] <urlin2u> sherif, can you name the problem, then if anyone knows they will help.
[00:13] <sherif> ok
[00:13] <JetJaguarXP> If I have installed and am running kernel 3.2 can I just uninstall the old kernel that I'm not using?
[00:13] <sherif> when i log in ubuntu he tells me everytime that an application needs "keyring"
[00:14] <psusi> JetJaguarXP, yes
[00:14] <sherif> and i have to unlock
[00:14] <sherif> everytime
[00:14] <urlin2u> JetJaguarXP, generally 2 kernels are suggested.
[00:14] <JetJaguarXP> Cool, I have three kernels.
[00:14] <Tellmarch> yeah it's best to keep at least one backup kernel
[00:14] <urlin2u> sherif, the network manager?
[00:14] <JetJaguarXP> I added 3.1 and 3.2 today.
[00:14] <sherif> huh?
[00:14] <psusi> once you have tested the new kernel and are satisfied that it is working, there's no need to keep the old one
[00:15] <sherif> i guess
[00:15] <JetJaguarXP> Cool.  apt-get remove <old kernel>  ?
[00:15] <urlin2u> sherif, what is the application?
[00:15] <psusi> you just don't want to delete the old one before you make sure the new one works ;)
[00:15] <sherif> he never tells me
[00:15] <Tellmarch> no need, but it doesn't use much space too, and now grub hides them anyway, so it's kind of a bother to remove them for no visible gain
[00:15] <sherif> he just say an application reqyire me to unlock keyring
[00:15] <urlin2u> sherif, you using wireless?
[00:15] <sherif> dont even know wut is keyring
[00:15] <sherif> aha
[00:16] <sherif> sometimes
[00:16] <JetJaguarXP> Okey dokey, thanks folks.
[00:16] <rtorto> magicJ: no that's not the case, the soundcard does differentiate between those plugs, In windows you can choose one or the other. Pulseaudio just somehow doesn't get it
[00:17] <sherif> but my wirless light go on automatic
[00:17] <sherif> is that related
[00:17] <Tellmarch> ok, it's a bit annoying when it updates older kernel and ask you to reboot after it, but apart from that, no reason to remove them.
[00:17] <sherif> u there
[00:17] <sherif> urlinu
[00:17] <urlin2u> sherif, sounds like the network manager right click the wireless icon and then edit connections click on wireless then double click your connection then then tick connect automatically
[00:18] <sherif> ok i will try that
[00:18] <urlin2u> sherif, cool.
[00:19] <sherif> its ticked on connect automatically
[00:19] <sherif> shud i remove the tick
[00:20] <sherif> urlinu
[00:21] <sherif> u there
[00:21] <urlin2u> sherif, yes
[00:21] <sherif> i removed the tick
[00:21] <sherif> now it wont ask me again?
[00:21] <urlin2u> sherif, you want it ticked how about allow all users?
[00:22] <sherif> its allowed
[00:23] <sherif> but anyways im not using wirless now
[00:23] <urlin2u> sherif, without a confirm of what needs the password it I can't say but it sounded like the network manager
[00:23] <sherif> yh its the network
[00:24] <sherif> but cant get rid of this message
[00:24] <urlin2u> sherif, you want both of those on generally, the allow all users will have any desktop run the manager automatically
[00:24] <urlin2u> *they*
[00:24] <sherif> they r on n still ask me to unlock
[00:24] <sherif> so wut is the problem
[00:24] <urlin2u> sherif, right but without any what its foir I have no idea others might though.
[00:24] <urlin2u> for*
[00:25] <sherif> ok i will just remove the wireless connection
[00:25] <urlin2u> sherif, don't do that .
[00:25] <sherif> y not?
[00:25] <sherif> im not using wirless at this home
[00:25] <urlin2u> sherif, you mean your connection not the network manager right?
[00:26] <sherif> yup
[00:26] <sherif> netwrok connection
[00:26] <urlin2u> sherif, cool that is okay. :D
[00:26] <sherif> yup
[00:26] <sherif> :)
[00:26] <sherif> i will try to relog now
[00:26] <urlin2u> sherif, only remove the wireless conection not the managder
[00:26] <urlin2u> manager*
[00:26] <sherif> i dont even know how to remove the manager
[00:26] <sherif> :D
[00:27] <urlin2u> sherif, if you did you would loose the lan as ell
[00:27] <urlin2u> well*
[00:27] <sherif> omg !!
[00:27] <sherif> hey if i wanna talk 2 u again how can i find u
[00:27] <sherif> is there any list here
[00:28] <sherif> i can add u to
[00:28] <urlin2u> sherif, I will be here tonight.
[00:28] <arek> hey do you know me ?
[00:28] <sherif> cool
[00:29] <sherif> i added u but never know where u added to
[00:30] <sherif> it works
[00:30] <sherif> :)
[00:31] <michelevalentino> salve A tutti
[00:31] <michelevalentino> !list
[00:32] <sherif> anyone knows how to make video calls on yahoo as i cant use yahoo messenger here
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sherif: there used to be gyache, i believe its dead but there may be a fork
[00:35] <sherif> gyache?
[00:35] <sherif> wut is that
[00:35] <blackboxer> I like limechat so far
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> sherif: its a yahoo client, if you look at your question and my reply its pretty obvious....
[00:36] <sherif> oh ok
[00:36] <sherif> i thought its a spell or something
[00:36] <sherif> hey theres no application with that name
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> sherif: use the web, its not available in the standard repos
[00:39] <sherif> ok bro
[00:39] <Wargasm> I found it
[00:40] <Wargasm> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gyachi/files/
[00:40] <Wargasm> I have no use for it but I was interested in seeing what it is...
[00:41] <sherif> thx war im downling now
[00:41] <Wargasm> sherif: glad to help
[00:42] <sherif> how can i send a message to anyone in red
[00:42] <sherif> like u just sent me
[00:42] <Wargasm> why wife uses skype... not happy that microsoft acquired it
[00:42] <Wargasm> you just put the name in front
[00:42] <urlin2u> sherif, autocomplete the nic with the tab is easiest
[00:43] <rtorto> Hello. I have a problem. Sound is being output to both my speakers(plugged in to the back of pc) and my headphones(plugged in the front) when I choose analog output connector, and to neither when I choose analog headphones connector. How do I get this to behave properly?
[00:43] <sherif> ok
[00:43] <sherif> now red?
[00:43] <Wargasm> type out my name, then your message
[00:44] <sherif> Wargasm hello
[00:44] <urlin2u> rtorto, that is kind of a convoluted description, can you be more clear/concse?
[00:44] <sherif> works?
[00:44] <Wargasm> sherif perfect
[00:44] <sherif> wargasm yup
[00:44] <sherif> its still grey here
[00:44] <Wargasm> sherif its ok I see it
[00:44] <urlin2u> sherif, this red
[00:44] <sherif> cool
[00:44] <sherif> i downloaded gyache
[00:44] <sherif> but its a folder
[00:44] <sherif> dunno how to install
[00:45] <sherif> :S
[00:45] <Wargasm> sherif now the fun part of figuring that out
[00:45] <sherif> yup
[00:46] <sherif> install.txt
[00:46] <sherif> install-sh
[00:46] <haylo> rm -rf
[00:46] <acerimmer> !ops
[00:47] <jrib> acerimmer: yes?
[00:47] <Corey> acerimmer: Yes?
[00:47] <acerimmer> sorry fat finger plz excuse
[00:47] <jrib> erm
[00:47] <haylo> are you serious what an arse to do that
[00:47] <sherif> shud i open workspace n start gvin commands
[00:48] <solosam> “!lista”
[00:48] <rtorto> urlin2u: ok, I want to be able to switch where audio is being output to, either my speakers or my headphones. The way it behaves now is it plays the audio in both my speakers and my headphones when I choose the "analog output" connector in sound preferences. And it doesn't play anything when I choose the "analog headphones" connector. The profile I'm using is analog duplex
[00:49] <urlin2u> rtorto, cool not sure but that description even I can understand. :D
[00:50] <hunkapunka> ls
[00:50] <solosam> !lista
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> rtorto: try the positionfix option on the sound driver
[00:50] <urlin2u> rtorto, try analog stereo duplex
[00:50] <Wargasm> sherif: if you figure it out let me know...
[00:51] <sherif> Wargasm im already lost
[00:51] <jeremiah_> how come every time i try to get jdk, I never find where it is or when i try to run a game and open it with java, it is not in the open from menu?
[00:51] <urlin2u> rtorto, I wold defer to ActionParsnip thiugh.
[00:51] <urlin2u> though*
 :S
[00:51] <Wargasm> sherif: lol, I'm new to ubuntu myself so any new way of doing things is welcome knowledge
[00:51] <rockets> What's the equivalent of .xinitrc in Ubuntu 11.10. I don't appear to have one by default . . .
[00:52] <sherif> 	Steps for building a gyachi executable
[00:52] <sherif> 1) use the autogen script to generate a configure script:
[00:52] <sherif> 	./autogen.sh
[00:52] <sherif> 2) run configure, with any options that you might prefer:
[00:52] <sherif> 	./configure --disable-rpath --enable-maintainer-mode --prefix /usr
[00:52] <FloodBot1> sherif: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <sherif> 3) To generate a Fedora/RedHat spec file
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> rtorto: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" | sudo  tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf                 reboot to test
[00:52] <jeremiah_> how come every time i try to get jdk, I never find where it is or when i try to run a game and open it with java, it is not in the open from menu?
[00:52] <sherif> omg
[00:52] <Wargasm> sherif: yeah I'd search around the web to see if anyone has a different way of doing it... still too advanced for me
[00:52] <sherif> y they blocked me
[00:53] <sherif> wargasm i only used ubuntu 2 days ago
[00:53] <Wargasm> sherif: you're not supposed to flood
[00:53] <sherif> wargasm wut is flood?
[00:53] <sherif> wargasm copy paste?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: do you use update alternatives as part of the install process
[00:53] <Wargasm> sherif: what you did up there is flooding
[00:54] <sherif> wargasm wut i did?
[00:54] <jeremiah_> what? i just do what the instructions on the web say
[00:54] <Wargasm> sherif: yeah, multiple lines entered one after the other... its a no no
[00:54] <BarkingFish> sherif: You don't paste anymore than 3 lines in one go, too much can get you quietened in the channel
[00:54] <BarkingFish> !pastebin | sherif
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what instructions are you using?
[00:55] <sherif> oh
[00:55] <sherif> thx guys
[00:55] <sherif> wont do that again
[00:55] <BarkingFish> no problem :)
[00:55] <sherif> i promise
[00:55] <sherif> :D
[00:55] <littlegirl> Hey there, when Ubuntu puts out an LTS release, is all the software frozen at the version it's at when it's installed, or is there a certain number of versions that any software is allowed to be upgraded before it reaches whatever ceiling is set in the LTS?
[00:56] <jeremiah_> like type this into the terminal. then it downloads, goes to a hundred and thats it
[00:56] <sherif> anyone knows how to install gyachi?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> littlegirl: if the software is super stable, it will be included
[00:56] <acerimmer> littlegirl: you're discussing "feature freeze"
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> sherif: its a dead project afaik, i'd find an alternative
[00:56] <littlegirl> ActionParsnip: Yep, what I want to know is how the version freeze is determined.
[00:56] <sherif> ok i will just delete wut i downloaded
[00:57] <littlegirl> acerimmer: What I mean is that if I use Ubuntu LTS, I ca't have Firefox 9 installed by the package manager because the version is frozen much lower. How is that version determined?
[00:57] <acerimmer> littlegirl: as I understand it, updates to the packages will follow the initial LTS release, but no new packages will be added to the official LTS.  Of course individual users can add, subtract, backport, etc
[00:57] <Wargasm> sherif: don't give up too quick
[00:57] <sherif> wargasm i am
[00:57] <almoxarife> sherif: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[00:57] <krysits> when coems out next lts release
[00:57] <littlegirl> acerimmer: That's what I thought, but Firefox is at a much higher version that you can get from the Ubuntu package manager, so I wonder how that version is decided.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> sherif: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859913
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: are you using 32bit ubuntu?
[00:58] <rtorto> ActionParsnip: That doesn't seem to change anything. Thanks though.
[00:59] <sherif> almoxarife thx but i already deleted this
[00:59] <jeremiah_> yes
[00:59] <almoxarife> https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa sherif
[01:00] <cosmicfires> does the latest ubuntu works with kernel raid?
[01:00] <sherif> wargasm u sent me a link earlier can u send again
[01:00] <sherif> it was the latest version of gyachi
[01:00] <sherif> i guess
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> rtorto: remove the line from the file, as it does nothing
[01:01] <artichoku> hello everyone
[01:02] <artichoku> hi there actionparsnip
[01:02] <artichoku> how r u this evening?
[01:02] <rockets> Is there some equivalent to .xinitrc in Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:02] <jeremiah_> are you going to answer?
[01:02]  * artichoku is seeking assistance with wireless drivers
[01:03] <acerimmer> artichoku: more info?
[01:03] <artichoku> :)
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: just cleaned the house, so a bit tired
[01:03] <artichoku> lol, i understand Action
[01:03] <artichoku> acerimner: so...
[01:04] <artichoku> once upon a time my laptop had 9.10 on it
[01:04] <artichoku> it used the b43 driver
[01:04] <artichoku> and it worked great
[01:04] <sherif> im installin it
[01:04] <pangolin> artichoku: try and keep your question all in one post
[01:04] <artichoku> i upgraded and it gave me sta driver which doesn't work
[01:04] <artichoku> okies
[01:04] <acerimmer> artichoku: you mean the on DVD sta driver??
[01:05] <artichoku> once upon a time my laptop had 9.10 on it. I was using the b43 driver and it worked well. i upgraded to 11.04 and b43 disappeared and it gave me the STA driver, which didn't work at all. I found a tutorial to get the b43 driver back on, and it was working, but monitor mode was stuck in channel -1
[01:06] <jeremiah_> hello?
[01:06] <sherif> thx guys the program works now
[01:07] <artichoku> i broke out my old 9.10 disk to roll back to that version, but the driver was still missing, so this very second i'm installing 11.10, but i believe this isn't going to solve the issue
[01:07] <urlin2u> artichoku, distro upgrades need reinstalls of drivers.
[01:07] <jeremiah_> augh. now i have to ask again
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm | grep -v grep        do you see anything about firmware missing?
[01:07] <urlin2u> !patience > jeremiah_
[01:08] <acerimmer> artichoku: what wifi card do you have?  Broadcomm???
[01:08] <artichoku> broadcomm, yeah
[01:08] <urlin2u> !tab > jeremiah_
[01:08] <acerimmer> artichoku: model #?  b43##?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: if you highlight me as I am highlighting you its easier to find
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: type action   then hit TAB and it will complete
[01:09] <artichoku> oh lord i have no idea
[01:09] <artichoku> it just worked with 9.10, so i never looked
[01:09] <acerimmer> artichoku: I rolled my own driver from broadcom's linux STA.  Take a look at this plz:  http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; sudo install32bitJava
[01:10] <a_p3rson> general pidgin question, how do i get the contact get info screen to show the fullname instead of userid? (for facebook chat)
[01:10] <jeremiah_> so what?
[01:10] <artichoku> does monitor mode work properly with it acerimmer?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: so what, what?
[01:10] <jeremiah_> i dont get how its done.
[01:10] <AOPS> acer are the best laptops
[01:10]  * DaveInKewaskum has a Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER question - 
[01:10] <acerimmer> artichoku: never had a problem with it.  I rotate between about 6 wifi points and it always connects...
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: copy the command, paste it to a termnal and hit enter.
[01:10] <urlin2u> artichoku, this command will identify your card.  spci | grep -i wireless
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: can you PLEASE highlight me
[01:11] <ceed^> Hi, what's the main difference between openjdk and the Sun/Oracle Java. I removed the latter and my java applications still work.
[01:11] <jeremiah_> yah i did
[01:11] <urlin2u> artichoku,  sorry lspci | grep -i wireless
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: no, you didn't
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you need to type my nick at the start of the line
[01:11] <artichoku> ok i put that command in, it just went back to the command line
[01:11] <jeremiah_> so highlight tab then enter?
[01:11] <artichoku> didn't show me anything
[01:11] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip>
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: see how my text stands out from the rest, that's not an accident
[01:11] <jeremiah_> like that?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: yes, that highlighted me
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: on each line you type, do that
[01:12] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip>ok
[01:12] <a_p3rson> jeremiah_: no, do a message like this: ActionParsnip: hello!
[01:12] <a_p3rson> like that
[01:12] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip: hello
[01:12] <artichoku> and i'm fixin' to loose terminal, the upgrade download just finished and now it's installing
[01:12] <jeremiah_> is that it?
[01:12] <artichoku> sorry to delay my question, i'll get back on it as soon as it finishes
[01:12]  * DaveInKewaskum has a Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER question - installing ISPConf2
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: if you copy the whole line I gave and paste it to a terminal, it will give you 32bit oracle java 1.7_02
[01:13] <urlin2u> !ask > DaveInKewaskum
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: thats exactly it :)
 you never gave me anything to type in terminal
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: it adds the plugin for chromium, you can change it if you use something else
[01:13] <acerimmer> artichoku: lspci | grep Broadcom
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava; sudo ./install32bitJava
[01:14] <artichoku> bcm4311
  in the terminal?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: yes, copy and paste it
[01:15] <acerimmer> artichoku: suggest you use the link I sent and build your own driver.  Instructions are in the Readme.txt.  It's only sounds a bit scary...
[01:15] <chris__> Day 2 of Umbutu and lovin it!
 I got this  sudo: ./install32bitJava: command not found
[01:15] <artichoku> lol, i just went
[01:16] <artichoku> i'm just waiting for the upgrade to finish on the lappy, then i'll try it
[01:16] <ceed^> chris__: Good to hear. I hope it'll be a lasting relationship :)
[01:16] <Jatinder> Hi ! Good Morning Everyone
[01:16] <od3n> anyone know if you can run programs under another users account
[01:16] <od3n> like the reverse of SUDO
[01:16] <acerimmer> artichoku: just follow the instructions and you should be fine.
[01:16] <a_p3rson> chris__: you ARE aware that you spelt it wrong, right? Umbutu...not Ubuntu
[01:16] <Jatinder> I want to remove the GUI of ubuntu desktop 11.10
[01:16] <a_p3rson> just saying lol
[01:17] <Jatinder> is there any way to remove GUI from ubuntu 11.10?
[01:17] <Dougwiser> Ubumtoo
[01:17] <xangua> Jatinder: so...why did you install desktop version on first place¿
[01:17] <artichoku> acerimmer: no worries. my only concern is that monitor mode works properly
[01:17] <Jatinder> there is no edition without GUI except server
[01:17] <artichoku> i do network security testing
[01:17] <Jatinder> I don't want any server
[01:17] <xangua> Jatinder: there is Minimal
[01:17] <xangua> !minimal | Jatinder
[01:18] <artichoku> so without monitor mode, it doesn't matter whether i can get online or not
[01:18] <acerimmer> artichoku: building your own is a better solution than using the deprecated old one.
[01:18] <DaveInKewaskum> Hello, I'm new to command line linux - IE: Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER. I'm setting up a webserver to host my own web pages and email. I followed the following tutroial -- http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-2 --- I'm stuck on the installing ISPConfig2. I have the ISPConfig-2.2.40.tar.gz file on CD, but I don't know how to access the CD from the command line to unpack and install the file ...
[01:18] <DaveInKewaskum>  HELP??
[01:18] <Jatinder> Minimal requires fast internet speed
 so?
[01:18] <Jatinder> which i currently dont have
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: saying "so" doesn't mean anything
[01:18] <acerimmer> !server|DaveinKewaskum
[01:18] <Jatinder> I got the ubuntu cd with CHIP magazine
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: did the file download ok?
 ok. so what do you think?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: again, did the file download?
[01:19] <acerimmer> rtorto: did you solve your audio issue??
[01:19] <jeremiah_> It didn't find it. did you see my other message?
[01:19] <Jatinder> how can I remove GUI ?
[01:20] <Aric> QUESTION UBUNTU 10.04 :: I am getting this issue using curl, and i tried apt-get install ca-certificates and still getting SSL issue when using curl, the issue is exactly as explained here: http://help.imified.com/kb/building-imified-bots/ca-cert-error-14090086
 sorry i forgot to highlight.
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Jatinder: uninstall xorg and it will remove all GUI stuffs
[01:20] <artichoku> be right back, gotta switch to windows partition
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/install32bitJava     download that
[01:21] <rtorto> acerimmer:No I sort of got distracted trying to figure out what position_fix did exactly
[01:21] <Jatinder> If I remove XORG in that case I will not able to install any other desktop environment on machine
[01:21] <Jatinder> isn't so?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Jatinder: sure you will, are you just wanting to install a different desktop??
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Jatinder: you can just install the other desktop, you can have as many installed as you like
[01:22] <jeremiah_> i got the first one working. just a small error
[01:22]  * Bsims hates to say it but I'm considering trying BSD... Actual Documentation... written by grownups; and a focus on Just works vs Oooh Shiny, Lack of native Calibre is a downside lol I love my kindle fire
[01:23] <urlin2u> Bsims, why are you telling us?
 or not...
[01:23] <Jatinder> Yes I want to try fluxbox
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: the link there is an updated one
[01:23]  * Bsims grins looking for reasons not to
[01:23] <acerimmer> rtorto: Just a thought.  Check your sound settings re: hardware
[01:23] <Jatinder> I tried this to remove XORG : sudo apt-get autoremove xorg
[01:23] <Bsims> Jatinder: apt-get install fluxbox, it will automaticaly add itself to gdm/kdm
[01:23] <urlin2u> Bsims, getting banned work for you if you do this often.
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Jatinder: then run:  sudo apt-get install fluxbox    log off then select fluxbox from the cog menu in the login screen
[01:24] <Jatinder> system just replied that it will remove only 170kb of the data
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Jatinder: you don't have to pull everthing out to get fluxbox....
 that didn't work either...
[01:24] <Fudge> how do you determine what to parse to apt-get -t from the sources.list or .d/ entry
[01:24] <Bsims> Jatinder: um why are you wanting to remove xorg?
[01:24] <Jatinder> i just want to keep FLUXBOX on my system
[01:25] <Sherlock01001> anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for installing ubuntu on macbook air 2011
[01:25] <Bsims> Jatinder: whats trying to remove it?
[01:25] <Jatinder> @Bsims: I am trying to remove GUI from Ubuntu-desktop 11.10
[01:25] <urlin2u> Sherlock01001, #apple
[01:26] <rtorto> acerimmer:I think you are on to something, it seems to think that there is only one stereo output. Do you have any idea of how I could convince it otherwise?
[01:26] <Bsims> Jatinder: if you want to disable X from starting automaticaly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1573037
[01:27] <Jatinder> @ActionParsnip: Removing XORG doesn't seem to be removing GUI
[01:27] <Jatinder> @Bsims: I dont want to disable, I want to remove GUI
[01:27] <acerimmer> rtorto: try changing the Settings for selected device: Profile.
[01:27] <artichoku> back
[01:27] <acerimmer> artichoku: that was fast!
[01:27] <artichoku> lol
[01:27] <Bsims> Jatinder: you want it to start fluxbox by default, or boot by default to a terminal?
[01:28] <artichoku> sorry i had to unrar some stuff for my pop
[01:28] <artichoku> man when i upgraded to 11.10 on my desktop it took like 15 minutes
[01:28] <artichoku> the laptop says an hour
[01:28] <artichoku> that damn thing is slow
[01:28] <Bsims> artichoku: what mirror you using?
 can you think of anthing else?
[01:29] <artichoku> bsims: all the downloading is done, that's the install time
[01:29] <rtorto> acerimmer:No matter which profile I select it only shows 1 input/1 output
 I want to keep only one DESKTOP environment on my system that is FLUXBOX
[01:29] <artichoku> old laptop, home built desktop
[01:29] <artichoku> it's just slow
[01:29] <Bsims> artichoku: Ah Ok
[01:29] <Bsims> Jatinder: so remove gnome and or kde?
[01:29] <Jatinder> that is why I want to remove current GUI of Ubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <Jatinder> how can I remove GNOME then
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: thats the way I do it. I remember omgubuntu has a PPA listed
[01:30] <artichoku> bsims: the desktop has a quad core amd 3.2ghz processor, 16GB ram
[01:30] <acerimmer> rtorto: I'm fairly convinced your solution is in the sound preference settings.  Look @ hardware>profile & Output>Connector
[01:30] <Jatinder> I tried this : sudo apt-get autoremove gnome
[01:30] <artichoku> the laptop is like pfffffft
[01:30] <Jatinder> it said gnome is not installed
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: 16Gb RAM, what's the system for?
[01:30] <magicJ> artichoku: disable 3d - it makes a huge difference on underpowered machines
 well i have lubuntu
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: same difference
[01:31] <artichoku> actionparsnip: i built it for my recording software
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: i use lubuntu too
[01:31] <artichoku> magic: it is
[01:31] <artichoku> studio* not software
[01:31] <artichoku> sry
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: makes sense then 16Bg is a lot for a desktop Liux
 oh. anyway now what do i do?
[01:31] <Bsims> Jatinder: fireup synaptic, install it if ya got to, and browse to the gnome section
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: all I know is my script and the omgubutu site naming a ppa
[01:32] <Bsims> start adding uninstall
[01:32] <artichoku> actionparsnip: yeah, but windows+all my recording software uses it up quickly
[01:32]  * Bsims grins uninstall gnome, though a lot of apps depend on gnome
[01:32] <artichoku> a few tracks are fine on any pc, but when i have 42 tracks being used on one song, that ram is gone
 but why when i download from others i never find it?
[01:33] <shadowman0> this sounds stupid but how can i check whether I created a partition for my ubuntu (i'm dual booting between xp/ubuntu). i honestly can't remember and I'm completely new at ubuntu
[01:33] <Ben64> shadowman0: are you in ubuntu now?
[01:33] <shadowman0> yeah
[01:33] <Bsims> shadowman0: gparted?
[01:33] <Ben64> what Bsims said
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you need to use the update alternatives to set the java up fully, as you can see from my script
[01:33] <almoxarife> Jatinder: why do you want to strip gnome?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: yeah, windows is poor with RAM
[01:33] <urlin2u> Jatinder, go to the psychocat website there under playing around are lists to remove full desktops and install others look carefully and you can get the ful install of what you want to remove.
[01:34] <shadowman0> bsims: yeah i have that installed but it's only ntfs and unallocated for the two "drives"
 but what is the update alturantives?
[01:34] <shadowman0> and the ntfs has 149.00 GiB
[01:34] <artichoku> actionparsnip: it really REALLY is, but thats what ppl make software for, so my hands are a bit tied
[01:34] <artichoku> beleive me, if i could all of my stuff to work with wine correctly, i'd never use windows
[01:34] <Bsims> Jatinder: disk space is cheap, I never ever use gnome but have it installed for the libs... worst case install ubuntu server and manually add only fluxbox
[01:35] <richard3> hey guys
[01:35] <Bsims> shadowman0: thats odd.. then I'd say no
[01:35] <haylo> if you like gd3 try debian
[01:35] <haylo> it is the default desktop and comes real light
[01:35] <acerimmer> rtorto: fixed??
[01:35] <haylo> but is a serious pain to install really
[01:36] <shadowman0> bsims: so technically could I have as much data on ubuntu as possible? within the restrictions of my actual hard drive?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: there is a lot of video software for Linux
[01:36] <Bsims> haylo: not really, no harder than windows used to be <g> I know I was there
[01:36] <acerimmer> artichoku: www.ubuntustudio.org
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> haylo: I bet mine is lighter here on LXDE, also coded using GTK3.2
[01:36] <artichoku> artichoku: yeah i've seen some really good stuff by way of video, but i'm really hurting for dreamweaver
[01:36] <richard3> i'd like some help with ubuntu, i just installed it however i have a problem when i stop using the hdmi output on it the machine stops working, so for example i've ssh'ed into it or vnc and I switch input to my cable box ssh stops responding and i lose the teamviewer connection
[01:37] <artichoku> ahahaha i mean actionparsnip:
[01:37] <haylo> il check it out ActionParsnip
[01:37] <Aric> :bump:
[01:37] <Aric> QUESTION UBUNTU 10.04 :: I am getting this issue using curl, and i tried apt-get install ca-certificates and still getting SSL issue when using curl, the issue is exactly as explained here: http://help.imified.com/kb/building-imified-bots/ca-cert-error-14090086
[01:37] <ar0nic> richard3 have you tried disabling the device before removing hdmi?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: it makes the java command point to the updated file
[01:37] <Bsims> shadowman0: can you paste me the output of this sudo parted -l /dev/hda
[01:37] <richard3> disabling what device?
[01:37] <Jatinder> my only motive is to prepare lightweight ubuntu for my home desktop which is quite older
[01:37] <shadowman0> bsims: sure
[01:37] <ar0nic> the hdmi output
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: tried bluefish?
 oh
[01:38] <shadowman0> bsims: im running the irc client thru terminal so ill be back
[01:38] <ar0nic> you can disable whatever monitors in x0rg
[01:38] <arek> malo nas :D
[01:38] <haylo> yo used an ubuntu netinstall ActionParsnip ?
[01:38] <richard3> like my computer is connected to my tv via hdmi, when i switch inputs to the tv channels i lose connection
[01:38] <artichoku> actionparsnip: yes, i'm messed around with it for hours upon hours
[01:38] <almoxarife> richard3: ssh cant be effected by hdmi
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you can always run the lines one by one yourself
[01:38] <artichoku> adobe kicks it's ass
[01:38] <artichoku> well, macromedia
[01:38] <ar0nic> wait when you switch inputs on the tv, or change the channel?
[01:38] <artichoku> then adobe took it over
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: probably only due to familiarity...
[01:38] <opdynamiks> I'm a web developer (PHP/mysql/javascript) still on 10.10. Should I upgrade to 11.10 or will there be detrimental productivity effects?
[01:39] <almoxarife> opdynamiks: dont do it
[01:39] <richard3> almoxarife its pretty easy to test, i do ls when video output is on, i switch out to the cable box, i cant do ls, and then my ssh connection times out
[01:39] <DaveInKewaskum> Hello, I'm new to command line linux - IE: Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER. I'm setting up a webserver to host my own web pages and email. I followed the following tutroial -- http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-2 --- I'm stuck on the installing ISPConfig2. I have the ISPConfig-2.2.40.tar.gz file on CD, but I don't know how to access the CD from the command line to unpack and install the file. Ca
[01:39] <DaveInKewaskum> n someone inform me how to access the file to be installed that is on my CD ROM , from the command line?
[01:39] <haylo> opdynamiks, dont do it if you need the comp for your business
[01:39] <rtorto> acerimmer:No not yet but I've figured out it's an ALSA problem. ALSA doesn't see all of my outputs
[01:39] <Bsims> shadowman0: install gnuscreen my man screen is god
[01:39] <somsip> opdynamiks: you may get updated PHP, Apache binaries, but you may not enjoy the new interface
[01:39] <almoxarife> richard3: switch out?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> opdynamiks: maverick is EOL soon, so I would upgrade if you need updates and security fixes
[01:39] <artichoku> actionparsnip: well the BIG reason is because all of the adobe stuff works with the other adobe stuff. so i have flash and fireworks, imports perfectly into dreamweaver, built in sql db for testing
[01:39] <acerimmer> rtorto: that's some progress...
[01:39] <artichoku> there's just alot of synergy by using adobe
[01:39] <arek> wiecie co kocham najbardziej ? cipki !
[01:40] <artichoku> brb bathroom
[01:40] <opdynamiks> somsip, I noticed Unity seems to be mouse heavy but could it also be keyboard friendly
[01:40] <richard3> well when the tv starts displaying the cable box and not the ubuntu box its effectively not using the hdmi and thus switching out right?
[01:40]  * Bsims takes a guess as to areks language and thinks polish?
[01:40] <almoxarife> richard3: cable? would that be the same cable the network is connected to?
[01:40] <somsip> opdynamiks: I'm a web developer and as soon as I encountered Unity I switched to Awesom WM which is geared very much around keyboard. Each to their own, but be aware.
[01:41] <richard3> okay i just tested it, i can no longer ping the box after i switch to the cable box
[01:41] <almoxarife> artichoku: no need to share
[01:41] <richard3> no when i say cable i mean like u know comedy channel, tv cable
[01:41] <shadowman0> bsims: Model: ATA ST3160023AS (scsi)
[01:41] <shadowman0> Disk /dev/sda: 160GB
[01:41] <shadowman0> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[01:41] <shadowman0> Partition Table: msdos
[01:41] <shadowman0> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags 1      32.3kB  160GB  160GB  primary  ntfs         boot
[01:41] <acerimmer> !pl|arek
[01:41] <FloodBot1> shadowman0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <opdynamiks> somsip, thanks
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: i guess if you need to use flash you are stuck
[01:41] <almoxarife> richard3: include the nick you are talking to
[01:42] <richard3> almoxarife i'm talking about switching between comcast cable on the tv and ubuntu on the tv, the box becomes unresponsive when hdmi output is lost
[01:42] <shadowman0> Model: ATA ST3160023AS (scsi)
[01:42] <shadowman0> Disk /dev/sda: 160GB
[01:42] <shadowman0> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[01:42] <shadowman0> Partition Table: msdos
[01:42] <shadowman0> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags 1      32.3kB  160GB  160GB  primary  ntfs         boot
[01:42] <FloodBot1> shadowman0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <acerimmer> !paste|shadowman0
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> shadowman0: use a pastebin please, not cool
[01:42] <shadowman0> okay sorry
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> shadowman0: that data is completely unreadable and scrolled the channel
[01:43] <almoxarife> richard3: i have a box with hdmi and i ssh to it all day, i cant see how hdmi changes would ever kill the ssh connection
[01:43] <richard3> almoxarife i effectively cant ping the box after video output is unused on the box
[01:43] <shadowman0> bsims: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817190/
[01:43] <richard3> almoxarife how could i debug it?
[01:44] <artichoku> actionparsnip: yes, flash has been integral. My customers like for stuff to move, and still be interactive.
[01:44] <Bsims> shadowman0: oh ouch...
[01:44] <Bsims> on a live cd?
[01:44] <shadowman0> bsims: no. just dual booting
[01:45] <artichoku> though my website is completely crap as far as SEO is concerned, it's completely in flash
[01:45] <urlin2u> shadowman0, you install from XP looks like a wubi.
[01:45] <almoxarife> richard3: the box is running ubuntu? the one you are ssh'ing into to?
[01:45] <richard3> yeah
[01:45] <artichoku> it makes potential customers get excited
[01:45] <richard3> ubuntu 11
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: then your hands are tied until adobe decide to make a linux suite for flash
[01:45] <DaveInKewaskum> Hello, I'm new to command line linux - IE: Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER. I'm setting up a webserver to host my own web pages and email. I followed the following tutroial -- http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-2 --- I'm stuck on the installing ISPConfig2. I have the ISPConfig-2.2.40.tar.gz file on CD, but I don't know how to access the CD from the command line to unpack and install the file. Ca
[01:45] <DaveInKewaskum> n someone inform me how to access the file to be installed that is on my CD ROM , from the command line?
[01:45] <almoxarife> richard3: the box is running ubuntu? the one you are ssh'ing into to?
[01:45] <Bsims> shadowman0: way I read this... there is nothing there... but one 160gb ntfs drive
[01:45] <richard3> almoxarife yeah ubuntu 11
[01:45] <Bsims> ububtu has not been installed to that drive
[01:45] <artichoku> actionparsnip: man i would love if adobe ported to linux
[01:45] <urlin2u> Bsims, you familiar with wubi?
[01:45] <shadowman0> bsims: but I'm somehow running ubuntu and have added files to it
[01:45] <shadowman0> and can run xp
[01:46] <shadowman0> bsims: and can run xp
[01:46] <almoxarife> richard3: how about the easy ones? look at the logs? syslog ?
[01:46] <artichoku> i'm really surprised that more companies don't. linux is ALOT bigger than it used to be
[01:46] <kyan> I figured out how to fix the 'flash with grey box' issue caused by rgba in Maverick. The answer is: the solution is to add the following two lines to ~/.profile: 'export GTK_MODULES=rgba' and 'export GTK_RGBA_APPS="allbut:firefox-bin:firefox:plugin-container:gnome-mplayer:dia:<unknown>:exe"'. !!! :-D
[01:46]  * kyan is happy
[01:46] <artichoku> and it's not just nerds that use it anymore
[01:46] <Bsims> shadowman0: you can add files to a running live cd
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: we can hope
[01:46] <shadowman0> bsims: this ins't a cd though
[01:46] <urlin2u> shadowman0, you install from XP looks like a wubi.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: never really was
[01:46] <Ben64> DaveInKewaskum: could you simplify that wall of text a bit?
[01:47] <shadowman0> urlin2u: yeah someone already said that.. didn't understand it the first time either
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: mostly, people were just ignorant of anything different
[01:47] <Bsims> shadowman0: wierd running the thing that lets you install it on a existing windows install?
[01:47] <urlin2u> shadowman0, if you install ubuntu from XP it is called a wubi it is a file in XP.
[01:47] <urlin2u> !wubi
[01:47] <Bsims> you have no native linux partitions on that drive
[01:47] <richard3> almoxarife heres a dmesg output of the event http://pastebin.com/B8ttKn3j
[01:48] <shadowman0> bsims: so am I okay? what's the verdict?
[01:48] <urlin2u> !wubi > shadowman0
[01:48] <artichoku> actionparsnip: ain't that the truth! given, linux still isn't quite to the point that it can be easily used by the average user
[01:48] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: Using Ubuntu 10.04 SERVER, I have a tarball file on CD that I need to install. How do I access the CD-ROM from the command line?
[01:48] <jnylen> !wubi > jnylen
[01:48] <artichoku> very VERY few people in front of a command line
[01:48] <Bsims> you is Ok its a file on windows
[01:48] <shadowman0> ubottu: yes I got that
[01:48] <Russian> Hello everyone =]
[01:48] <urlin2u> shadowman0, if you do not have another HD you have a wubi install.
[01:48] <almoxarife> richard3: hdmi not the issue, is the issue losing ssh connection?
[01:48] <Ben64> DaveInKewaskum: you can mount it... but you couldn't grab the file from the internet?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: i gave it to my girlfriends mum who works in Asda and my grandad and they have no issues
[01:49] <richard3> almoxarife yeah but i cant see anything relevant in syslog
[01:49] <Bsims> it will do everything you could want it to do, but the file system is ntfs vs ext3
[01:49] <Russian> What version of Ubuntu are you guys using?
[01:49] <jnylen> urlin2u: when installing via wubi, 1) do you have to reboot to use linux?  and 2) can it manipulate your windows files?
[01:49] <artichoku> actionparsnip: i recon' if they don't have to mess with terminal they'd be ok
[01:49] <Bsims> I am running one rev behind current
[01:49] <artichoku> as long as they don't have to break out sudo apt-get
[01:49] <shadowman0> bsims: so should I just keep this? I mean it's perfectly fine.. everything works
[01:50] <shadowman0> bsims: plus I get to use all the space on the windows part right?
[01:50] <almoxarife> richard3: well, you seem to know what is relevant and what is not, good luck
[01:50] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: I can, again, I would need to figure out the command line text to do it. Looking up the file URL now.
[01:50] <Bsims> then keep it... if its ever a problem, shrink the windows partition and install it native
[01:50] <Bsims> yes
[01:50] <shadowman0> bsims: that is sexy. thank you my good man
[01:50] <Ben64> DaveInKewaskum: mount -t <filesystem> <device> <mountpoint>
[01:50] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: I'm NEW - NEW - to the command line ... been using Ubuntu desktop for years though
[01:50] <urlin2u> jnylen, yes on the reboot, both OS are accessible from either, not considered a long term install though for use just a try before a full install a dual boot.
[01:50] <Bsims> shadowman0: np
[01:50] <richard3> almoxarife well the last message relates to a system ugprade i did, like the action of switching outputs doesnt add anything to the logs, any other file i could check?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: web browsing is the main flavour, ubuntu does that well. Even picked up her Epson SX115 printer scanner with no extra drivers. Had a bit of pain with it in Jaunty but Oneiric is great with it
[01:51] <jnylen> urlin2u: I'd love to replace cygwin with something like that, I think there was a project that let you run both simultaneously but I forget the name
[01:51]  * Bsims does a double take... I have now been running Linux as my sole OS for 12 years now
[01:51] <Bsims> <--- Old
[01:51] <artichoku> actionparsnip: wow it hates my printer, lol
[01:51] <urlin2u> jnylen, there was one but not really a project that is kept up a virtual would be the next option.
[01:52] <almoxarife> the asl crap belongs ???????????????? not here!
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: what you got?
[01:52] <Bsims> artichoku: what kind of printer is it?
[01:52] <artichoku> actionparsnip: canon mx360
[01:52] <artichoku> and bsims*
[01:52] <jnylen> urlin2u, what was that called again??
[01:52] <Bsims> so long as it speaks some form of pcl/ps drivers doesn't matter
[01:52] <vite> question, I know installing a GUI on a server is not orthodox. But if I only start the xserver on a need bases. once I turn of the xserver will the gui security issues shut off?
[01:52] <urlin2u> jnylen, I was trying to remember I can't lol. :D
[01:53] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: OK, I have the URL for where the file is online, what command line command(s) do I use to download and install the file?
[01:53] <jnylen> urlin2u, Cooperative Linux ( colinux.org )
[01:53] <Bsims> vite: yup, and the issues are mostly not an issue compaired with other os's
[01:53] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: FYI, the URL is --- http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ispconfig/ISPConfig-2.2.40.tar.gz?download
[01:54] <Bsims> artichoku: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/06/download-install-canon-printer-driver.html
[01:54] <urlin2u> jnylen,  think I was thinking of even another I forget though.
[01:54] <urlin2u> I
[01:54] <jnylen> user mode linux?
[01:54] <artichoku> woot?!
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: there is a driver on the canon site, have you tried it?
[01:54] <richard3> almoxarife i think i found something, simply the act of unplugging the hdmi cable doesnt do anything to the machine so it must be something else thanks for ur help
[01:55] <Sach> can someone help me with installing a driver on ubuntu 11.04 for an HP printer?
[01:55] <artichoku> actionparsnip: i haven't really messed with it, it just didn't come up like my hp printer did the first  time i tried ubuntu
[01:55] <Bsims> artichoku: tl;dr version want it to work flawlessly with Linux, make sure it speaks pcl or ps
[01:56] <artichoku> it speaks pcl and ps
[01:56] <Ben64> DaveInKewaskum: wget, but you'd want to use the direct link
[01:56] <artichoku> so i think that will work great, ty bsims
[01:56] <urlin2u> Sach, you look in printers to see if one is there?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: there is a file for the printing, one for the scanner, both 32bit and 64bit debs,....
[01:56] <Bsims> artichoku: then tell cups its a ps/pcl printer
[01:56] <Bsims> for the scanner look up sane
[01:56] <artichoku> awesome
[01:56] <artichoku> you guys are great
[01:56] <vite> bsims is the ubuntu 11.10 server more stable than the desktop version for a workstation type of enviroment?
[01:56] <Bsims> sane is the backend for all scanner software
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: there are drivers on the canon site, so once installed it will work
[01:57] <artichoku> and as soon as the lappy's upgrade is done, hopefully we can get wireless working correctly
[01:57] <artichoku> i'll die without aircrack
[01:57] <Bsims> vite: server is the same as desktop without X.
[01:57] <Sach> urlin2u, yes, i did that....  I just need some help understanding the instructions on the HP webpage for my selected driver
[01:57] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: So from root, I would type -- wget <the url>
[01:57] <Bsims> vite: or thats my understanding
[01:57] <vite> well I saw the desktop doesnt let you have lvm or encrypted lvm
[01:57] <vite> the encrypted drive was the nice part.
[01:58] <Bsims> it can be installed after the fact
[01:58] <vite> lol, ok server with fluxbox lighter than desktop with unity
[01:58] <vite> and a lot less dependancies I think
[01:58] <urlin2u> Sach, I would post a link to that with your question as well probably, I assume the ubuntu provided driver is not working, or you may not know the correct setup.
[01:59] <Bsims> vite: yes, though most modern apps will depend on gtk(gnome) or qt(kde) at least for the libararies, and lets face it disk space is cheap
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> vite: yes but still runs an X server on a server...
[01:59] <Sach> urlin2u, thanks will do that.  It asks me to download a   .run  file to desktop, then to open terminal and type cd Desktop. However, this command generates 'no such file or directory"
[02:00] <Bsims> Sach: try cd /home/UserName/Desktop
[02:00] <Ben64> DaveInKewaskum: yes, and you should use quotes around the url when it has strange characters in it
[02:00] <Bsims> DaveInKewaskum: including embeded spaces
[02:00] <urlin2u> Sach, Bsims got it foer you.
[02:00] <vite> I have noticed its seems to run smoother
[02:00] <urlin2u> for
[02:01] <Bsims> urlin2u: eh story of my life
[02:01] <vite> I dont like the sudo halt -p command but it seems faster
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: is your ubuntu 64bit? I can give dropbox links for the debs if you want...
[02:01] <Sach> Bsims, you rock! it works!
[02:01] <urlin2u> Bsims, we do cleanup here to. :D
[02:01] <Sach> urlin2u, thanks too! :)
[02:01] <goddard> can you video chat with empathy using Google Talk?
[02:01] <urlin2u> Sach, np.
[02:01] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64, ok, let me try that.
[02:01] <artichoku> actionparsnip: just installed the one bsims sent me. worked perfectly!!!! big thanks to both of you
[02:01] <acerimmer> goddard: yes
[02:02]  * Bsims considers making my backup script gui just for the fun of it
[02:02] <goddard> acerimmer: cool
[02:02] <Bsims> I mean its just straight rsync
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: simple times dude, Canon's support isn't bad these days. Kodak still refuse to support Linux
[02:03] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: and Kodak has declared bankruptcy - coincidence?
[02:03] <jimlay> I don't want to make waves, but I've been through the forums and google and all I can find is bitching and no solutions. Unity makes my computer virtually unusable. What are people actually using? -- I've installed gnome classic, gnome plain, awesome, enlightement etc. They all come with terrible defaults. -- Is there something that works out of the box and isn't ugly?
[02:03] <artichoku> actionparsnip: screw kodak anyway. i haven't cared for kodak since they stopped making true black and white film
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: really, wow
[02:03]  * Bsims is happy with my samsung... replaced a toddler sized HP LJ4+P
[02:03] <hopstafarian> hi all..been a while...took the plunge on my work system and upgraded from maverick to oneiric..the one drawback, is that my vaio backlit kb didn't work out of the box..found a cli string that activates it, but now looking for where i can add it so that it is added into the boot sequence?
[02:03] <Bsims> kinda wish I still had it for the geek cred
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> i always buy HP, HPLIP is fantastic
[02:04] <urlin2u> yeah
[02:04] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: lol this thing weighed literaly 75lbs
[02:04] <hopstafarian> jimlay, i like the gnome3 gnome-shell
[02:05] <richard3> almoxarife i figured it out u'll never guess what it was
[02:05] <Bsims> lj4+ with 64megs of ram, seperate ps card and 10 meg jetdirect and ps
[02:05] <Bsims> gave it to a youth boxing club
[02:05] <Bsims> and duplexer
[02:05] <artichoku> 18 more minutes!
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: Deskjet 940C here, works great. SHared via Samba
[02:06] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: Samsung ML-2850D drivers from foomatic
[02:07] <artichoku> i'm watching the details on the upgrade. LOTS of error adding /etc/ssl/certs/***
[02:07] <artichoku> hope those don't matter
[02:08] <Bsims> artichoku: the real test is after reboot
[02:08] <artichoku> bsims: true so true
[02:08] <Bsims> thats why I am one rev behind all the bugs have been hunted down and shot
[02:08] <jimlay> hopstafarian: Is the gnome3 different than 3.2?
[02:08] <Bsims> and with backports I don't miss too much
[02:09] <walid_> Salut
[02:10]  * Bsims grrs ubuntu doesn't have apt-report-bugs
[02:10] <DaveInKewaskum> Ben64: I didn't think I'd get it with that URL because it has a -delay- in downloading for advertizing. I COULD upload to a file storage / sharing site and download it with the server from there. Any sugestion where I could upload it to?
[02:10] <walid_> Hi
[02:10] <Bsims> shows you open bug tickets before you upgrade
[02:10] <mistform> I'm using Xchat. What is the command to show channels list in another window? /list just shows everything on the server tab
[02:10] <walid_> Hi
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[02:11] <acerimmer> walid:greetings.  what's state your issue.
[02:11]  * Bsims used to run sid, it was almost a requirement in the days of the 2.4.0 kernel
[02:11] <walid_> you speak frensh ??
[02:11] <acerimmer> !fr|walid
[02:11] <hopstafarian> jimlay, not to my ignorant eye..i'm actually on 3.2...but i wanted to differentiate it from the gnome2 version of gnome-shell..i didn't read back very far, so not sure if it's what you're looking for..but unity was usable but a little onerous for me..and the new gnome-shell works well for how i work..thought i'd mention
[02:12] <walid_> merci
[02:12] <Bsims> though the waranty was if it broke you got to keep both halves
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: it still is
[02:12] <mistform> this is driving me insane trying to get Ubuntu (or even Windows for that) to copy 2 .jpg's from a Canon digital cam (Powershot A550)
[02:13] <jimlay> hopstafarian: thanks. I think I'm just going to have to go back to my roots and spend some time customizing one of the old reliables. :)
[02:13] <acerimmer> mistform: more info
[02:13] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: lol only reason I got started with Ubuntu is at the time you literaly could not install sid, and ubuntu was close sid for software version
[02:13] <hopstafarian> hmm...hopefully is not something that has to be compiled into the kernel..hoping it was something like a windows config.sys file or such
[02:13] <Bsims> that was christ warthog days
[02:14] <mistform> acerimmer, I can't copy any photos from this camera. It gives me an error and a list of random commands. I guess Canon made their cameras *look* like USB mass storage devices even though they are *NOT*
[02:14] <hopstafarian> jimlay, sure..."roots" being, out of curiousity?
[02:14] <Bsims> mistform: try pluging in the card direct into a card reader
[02:14] <artichoku> 12 minutes omg omg omg slooooooowwwwwww
[02:14] <mistform> acerimmer, I installed gtkam and it gives me the same problem
[02:14] <acerimmer> mistform: how old is the camera?  And do you have the canon driver software?
[02:14] <hopstafarian> jimlay, or  could just spell curiosity correctly...lol...
[02:14] <artichoku> i haven't turned this thing on in a year and a half
[02:15]  * Bsims giggles and yanks artichoku's connection at 30 seconds to go
[02:15] <mistform> Bsims, I don't have a card reader
[02:15] <MK`> I just bought a 2GB usb flash drive, is it safe to format that to ext4 or should I leave it as FAT?
[02:15] <artichoku> awwww cry!!!!
[02:15] <Bsims> mistform: ah Ok whats the camera so we know what to avoid
[02:15] <mistform> acerimmer, no software. I even tried the canon website to no avail (though I spent about 5 frustrated minutes and decided to look elsewhere)
[02:15] <artichoku> mk: might as well leave it as fat
[02:15] <acerimmer> MK`: leave it at fat for use in any computer.
[02:15] <mistform> Bsims, it's old. it's a powershot A550.
[02:15] <Bsims> Ok
[02:15] <mistform> Bsims, but I do suggest avoiding all Canon cameras anyway
[02:16] <artichoku> the laptop specs really aren't that bad, i'm just so used to the desktop
[02:16] <artichoku> it's got a dual core 2.3 ghz amd and 4gb of ram
[02:16] <Bsims> mistform: newegg... card readers are 15 bucks, though I like cannon glass
[02:16] <artichoku> the desktop is just soooo much faster, i have no patients for the thing anymore
[02:16] <acerimmer> mistform: I'm concerned that neither windows/ubuntu can read this thing.  Seems there's some proprietary stuff preventing cross platform use.  Suggest you see if you can get a live person on canon-chat to help.
[02:16] <artichoku> patience*
[02:16] <jimlay> hopstafarian: afterstep circa '97. I'm probably going to go back to sawfish. I used to hack window managers back in college around a decade ago.
[02:16] <Bsims> mistform: http://home.comcast.net/~bmsims1/Tree.jpg cannon is2
[02:16] <mistform> Bsims, I rarely use digital cams. plus I have little cash and no credit/debit cards.
[02:17] <weiland> Test
[02:17] <somsip> !test | weiland
[02:17] <Bsims> I actually sold a print of that picture
[02:17] <jimlay> hopstafarian: Ubuntu has just almost always had such great defaults I stopped customizing.
[02:17] <acerimmer> mistform: can you canon-copy the pics to a memory card.
[02:17] <weiland> I couldn't talk in #linux
[02:17] <Bsims> ya registered with nickserv weiland?
[02:18] <weiland> No
[02:18] <Bsims> that may be the problem
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: I just tried it, I used to use mandrake but always distro hopped. It all worked (albeit slower), so I stayed. I use xpud more these days
[02:18] <Bsims> ran into that myself
[02:18] <mistform> acerimmer, bsims was just suggesting placing the memcard into the card reader... the non existent reader is slightly less functional than a real one that I don't have.
[02:18] <weiland> Where do you do that? I'm still trying to get into irc
[02:18] <acerimmer> mistform: lol.  sorry, i missed that
[02:19] <pangolin> !register | weiland
[02:19] <mistform> acerimmer, honestly, I can't even close the Filebrowser that has the pictures open. I still have a file operations that is trying to transfer 2 photos without success.
[02:19] <acerimmer> mistform: have you tried CLI terminal?
[02:20] <Bsims> giant picture warning... http://home.comcast.net/~bmsims1/pano.jpg got to love photostich... its a script that does 2d panoramics
[02:20] <mistform> acerimmer, you mean just copy file via terminal?
[02:20] <acerimmer> mistform: yes.
[02:20] <mistform> Bsims, did you do any editing to the tree pic? it looks amazing
[02:20] <Bsims> all done with free software, gimp and panostitch
[02:21] <Bsims> mistform: converted from color with gimp, and tinting in gimp
[02:21] <Bsims> mistform: platinum filter in gimp
[02:21] <mistform> Bsims, I dislike unnatural color changes like with brushes and stuff. I'd just as well take the pic in black and white 35mm and leave it as it is.
[02:22] <Bsims> eh I was playing, the photo was all manual and well it sold
[02:22] <Stereocaulon> Bsims, wow, beautiful picture there. Love trees in autumn
[02:23] <artichoku> wow nice pic
[02:23] <Bsims> Stereocaulon: the pano pic? thats 14 shots all stitched by AI under free software
[02:23] <artichoku> 2 minutes!
[02:23] <Bsims> all I did was crop the result
[02:23] <kah> hey, i just installed ubuntu on a VM (on Windows) and have it showing but i can't get my menu's to come up! any ideas haha
[02:24] <psyrus> hi, has anyone had luck installing intel's hd 3000 kernal and 2d/3d drivers under ubuntu 11.1
[02:24] <psyrus> ?
[02:24] <Bsims> want to tell me free software can't do artsy stuff?
[02:24] <kah> hey, i just installed ubuntu on a VM (on Windows) and have it showing but i can't get my menu's to come up! any ideas haha
[02:25] <pangolin> Bsims: the pic is fantastic but not on topic discussion for this channel.
[02:25] <kah> i watch the machine etc on the top / bottom where ever
[02:25] <neatbook> hello earthlings
[02:25] <weiland> Grab the input devices
[02:25] <helmikassim> hello guys..I have installed nvclock-gtk but failed to run it.
[02:25] <psyrus> kah, i just started using vmplayer and i haven
[02:25] <Bsims> pangolin: I know, and i's sorry
[02:25] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I tried to help ineedhelp, but an upgrade was impossible without a wipe of the HDD. Even mounting the alternate CD of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) did not work. Well...
[02:26] <Stereocaulon> I've got to sleep now.  See you guys and gals around
[02:26] <acerimmer> digital artists #ubuntustudio
[02:26] <weiland> Don't you back up?
[02:26] <neatbook> hey question
[02:26] <Bsims> Ok cool
[02:26] <psyrus> t had any issues with it except it runs by default outa native res. and i cant get it to sync the res. correctly with my lcd
[02:26] <Bsims> Stereocaulon: what are ya trying to do, and when does it fail?
[02:27] <weiland> What is your Res, steroids?
[02:27] <psyrus> omg i just realized something really cool
[02:27] <artichoku> omg time to restart
[02:27] <artichoku> is gonna explode?!?!
[02:27] <neatbook> whats cool
[02:28] <weiland> I need to know!!!
[02:28] <psyrus> if you touch 3 fingers on your trackpad in ubuntu 11.1, it will move the whole window  , u just move your 3 fingers around on the pad, 2 for scrolling, and one for point/click
[02:28]  * Bsims loans artichoku my riot shield and sks
[02:28] <artichoku> sweet!
[02:28] <Bsims> incase of zombies
[02:28] <artichoku> pffft sks
[02:28] <weiland> Kde as well?
[02:28] <neatbook> true but my touch pad doesnt work for some reason
[02:28] <dotblank> !botsnack
[02:28] <artichoku> ak 74u pls
[02:29] <vite> what is the benefit of an encrypted lvm vs non encrypted lvm?
[02:29] <vite> and a regular desktop setup?
[02:29] <Stereocaulon> Bsims, well I've tried the tested method of 1) renaming the repos to karmic, mounting the karmic iso and running cdinstall. The procedure failed because ubuntu could not authenticate a massive slew of packets (probably) all.
[02:29] <hydrox24> neatbook: you probably need a true multi-touch trackpad for that
[02:30] <artichoku> ok can i have that custom driver link again?
[02:30] <hydrox24> neatbook: synaptics trackpads only support 1 & sometimes 2 fingers.
[02:30] <weiland> Does this multitoich work under the kde build as well as the gnome?
[02:30] <hydrox24> weiland: that is a good point too
[02:30] <hydrox24> can't be sure
[02:30] <weiland> I love ode!
[02:30] <artichoku> oo nvm got it
[02:30] <Stereocaulon> Bsims, he did not have a separate partition for his /home, so I taught him howto targzip his /home dir and split it into DVDR-sized chunks.
[02:30] <Bsims> Stereocaulon: try the server upgrade, if that doesn't work new install and copy home from backup
[02:30] <psyrus> okay, another thing i just somehow did was take a snapshot of my screen
[02:30] <psyrus> if i can do that, i wonder if i can record video
[02:31] <silentshadow100> Anyone Here?
[02:31] <hydrox24> okay
[02:31] <hydrox24> silentshadow100: yup
[02:31] <Bsims> no huhu on new install copy home/User back
[02:31] <hydrox24> silentshadow100: several of us
[02:31] <weiland> Yep
[02:31] <artichoku> wtf
[02:31] <artichoku> my touchpad just stopped working
[02:31] <psyrus> well, there is a "prt scr" button on my laptop on the upper mid-right section, it takes screen snapshos
[02:32] <silentshadow100> Can someone help me with program installing?
[02:32] <Stereocaulon> Bsims, I already tried the server upgrade (Upgrade not supported with this tool: You cannot Upgrade: Distribution End of Life)
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: thanks for pitching in. I'd always clean install anyways
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: unload and reload the driver module
[02:32] <hydrox24> artichoku: is there a disable/enable function key on your laptop?
[02:32] <psyrus> has anyone been able to install intel hd 3000 video drivers in ubuntu
[02:32] <hydrox24> silverraindog: sure
[02:32] <urlin2u> !eol | Stereocaulon
[02:32] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I love to help, but it became a *very* lengthy session; 5 hours straight.
[02:33] <Bsims> Stereocaulon: then install from new and restore from backup.. worst case delete the kde/gnome home dir and let it recreate it
[02:33] <artichoku> ahydrox24: yes there is, i turned it off and back on, but the touchpad didn't come back on
[02:33] <artichoku> i'll reboot
[02:33] <hydrox24> silentshadow logged off after asking a Q...
[02:33] <Stereocaulon> urlin2u, I know that but the described methods for the upgrade of 9.04 don't work anymore.
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: try the module
[02:33] <Bsims> its a crap answer but one that works
[02:33] <hydrox24> artichoku: that's the way to go I'd say
[02:33] <artichoku> trying now
[02:34] <artichoku> i mean it worked when it rebooted
[02:34] <urlin2u> Stereocaulon, really hmm have not heard that.
[02:34] <artichoku> then i opened the browser and it stopped
[02:34] <Stereocaulon> Bsims, that's exactly why I taught him to zip his /home dir and split it.
[02:34] <Bsims> yup can I share my rsync script?
[02:34] <psyrus> can someone help me install intel hd 3000 linux drivers?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> psyrus: they are in a default install
[02:35] <Stereocaulon> urlinu, try it for yourself, in a virtual machine, using a clean install of 9.04, when you follow the instructions to the letter it will still fail.
[02:35] <artichoku> omg i need some help a sec. i forgot how to do stuff when it has a makefile
[02:35] <Stereocaulon> urlin2u, try it for yourself, in a virtual machine, using a clean install of 9.04, when you follow the instructions to the letter it will still fail.
[02:35] <psyrus> it iinsalled some kinda generic drivers, i dont actually see my specific video card listed
[02:35] <neatbook> hey
[02:36] <neatbook> how do you check if given input is a folder or a file?
[02:36] <urlin2u> Stereocaulon, I will take your word on it. :D
[02:36] <dlentz> psyrus, the xorg-edgers ppa is probably what you want
[02:36] <hopstafarian> got it...added it as @reboot in the crontab..
[02:36] <neatbook> is there a function to check??
[02:36] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, just enter the source directory and type make install
[02:36] <hydrox24> psyrus: using what tool to list the drivers?
[02:36] <neatbook> that returns a value so that i can use if function?
[02:36]  * Bsims is off in serch of foodlike things
[02:36] <weiland> What is the minimum ram for BT5R1? I'm trying to get a hold on a toughbook cf-28 and worry that 512MB wont be enough. Also CPU Hz
[02:37]  * krysits one windz quora
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> weiland: what is BT5SR1 ?
[02:37] <neatbook> someone plz help me bro
[02:37] <hydrox24> weiland: I guess that you can install arch and follow a tutorial to make it like a bare-bones of BT5
[02:37] <n-iCe> hi, there are two drivers for my wireless card, rtl8187 and r8187, is there any way to have both installed and switch between them whenever I want?
[02:37] <psyrus> ActionParsnip, i saw drivers for my card on intels support site, but i dunno what do to with the files after i dnload them
[02:37] <weiland> Backtrack 5 R1
[02:37] <hydrox24> weiland: but that IS pretty Hardcore
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | weiland
[02:37] <hydrox24AFK> brb
[02:37] <artichoku> cannot stat 'wl.ko' error
[02:37] <dlentz> psyrus, the xorg-edgers ppa is probably what you want
[02:37]  * krysits tried to enter porno world and got excuses
[02:37] <dlentz> ,,,
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> weiland: not supported here
[02:38] <bazhang> krysits, stop that
[02:38] <psyrus> dlentz,   what is that ?
[02:38] <Stereocaulon> urlin2u, ActionParsnip, anyway. I'm off to bed. High time too, it's  3:40 AM here.
[02:38]  * dlentz coughs google
[02:38] <acerimmer> !ask|neatbook
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: 2:38 here
[02:38] <urlin2u> Stereocaulon, nite
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> am
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> nite
[02:38] <hopstafarian> bazhang, hey
[02:38] <weiland> Fare enough. I wont bring it up again
[02:38] <rasta1> holaaaa
[02:39] <michaeljones> I just debootstrapped ubuntu what package do I have to install to make it "ubuntu server"
[02:39] <michaeljones> ?
[02:39] <acerimmer> !server|michael
[02:39] <artichoku> actionparsnip: it gave me "cannot stat 'wl.ko': no such file or directory"
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: isn't the driver: psmouse
[02:40] <artichoku> no i know, the mouse working now, i moved on to the wireless driver
[02:40] <artichoku> lol sry, i should have said that
[02:40] <POohAa> Having a problem with ubuntu 11.10, just installed it yesterday, boot and shutdown text not displaying on monitor(monitor says that settings are out of acceptable parameters) and shutdown doesn't complete. xserver displays fine.
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: deinately
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | artichoku
[02:41] <rhapsody2012> #list
[02:41] <weiland> What about Ubuntu? Has anyone installed it onto a toughbook cf-28? I really want my Linux toughbook back
[02:41] <artichoku> k alt-tabbing a sec
[02:42] <neatbook> !patience
[02:42] <neatbook> ok ubottu thank u
[02:42] <neatbook> has anybody seen aurora tonite??
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> neatbook: i use the browser...
[02:42] <neatbook> a very strong solar storm blew alot of electrons toward the earth
[02:43] <hydrox24> neatbook: you mean that impressive one htat was around lately in norway?
[02:43] <neatbook> yea
[02:43] <neatbook> what happended to tat
[02:43] <artichoku> ok so it's been my experience that with the sta driver, monitor mode didn't work
[02:43] <neatbook> i live in canada and i see nothing
[02:43] <weiland> Thet
[02:43] <hydrox24> neatbook: heard it on the news but I live in Canberra Australia... so I ddidn't see it no.
[02:43] <artichoku> but earlier when i did these steps for b43, wireless worked, but monitor mode didn't
[02:43] <hydrox24> neatbook: but try and stay on topic to keep the bots & admins happy
[02:43] <artichoku> i'll start with the sta drive and see what happens
[02:43] <artichoku> i can always remove it
[02:44] <hydrox24> cya all, off to feed my human needs (Lunch)
[02:44] <artichoku> they both cover my hardware
[02:44] <artichoku> afk for a minute
[02:44] <neatbook> ok i didnt know off topic was against the rule lol
[02:44] <weiland> I'm freezing. I'll be back with a swetter in 5
[02:45] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I've been having trouble installing firebird and it seems to be partially installed.Can someone please explain me how to find out what is/is not installed and how to remove it> TIA!
[02:45] <neatbook> what does file -d filename return?
[02:45] <neatbook> 'file -d filename'
[02:46] <bviktor> 3 floodbots, lol
[02:48] <weiland-> #test
[02:49] <zacarias> can you change the ownership of a removable device, like an external HD?
[02:49] <POohAa> my monitor is flaking out when xserver isn't running, it's a dell s2009w
[02:50] <artichoku> ok thats not going to work
[02:50] <artichoku> now i'm trying to compile the drivers on the broadcom website
[02:51] <artichoku> but i'm getting the error
[02:51] <acerimmer> artichoku: paste it.
[02:52] <artichoku> cannot stat 'wl.ko': No such file or directory
[02:52] <acerimmer> artichoku: you dowloaded the 32 or 64 bit for your machine?
[02:52] <artichoku> 32
[02:53] <celltech> I have 11.10, I put the gnome back in it cause I don't like unity, There are a TON of programs that came with it. That I can't find to remove in the synaptic. Is there a list of those, and what their actually listed in, in the package manager so I can delete them?
[02:54] <urlin2u> celltech, you want to remove unity completely is that what your saying?
[02:55] <celltech> No. Programs from the gnome. Like brasero.. I don't know what it's listed as in synaptic
[02:55] <weiland-> What allocations do you guys use to host irc channels? I'm trying to get into Linux servers, due to my distaste for google-esk service providers.
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> celltech: unity is a shell for gnome, when you had unity, you also had gnome...
[02:55] <weiland-> Ive got send mail for imap
[02:55] <psyrus> dlentz,  i'm on intellinuxgraphics.org and they got an hd  3000 page with a kernal and all these drivers but i dont know what to download
[02:55] <urlin2u> celltech, try brasero
[02:56] <celltech> Tried that. Doesn't show up
[02:56] <jdavis> I have net.ipv4.ip_forward set to 1, but my iptables port forwarding script doesn't look like it's working. Is there anything else I need to do to enable forwarding?
[02:56] <artichoku> cry*
[02:56] <artichoku> it hates me
[02:57] <celltech> Infact. Can I safely remove unity completly and have no problems with my system?
[02:57] <acerimmer> artichoku: you did this first, right??http://paste.ubuntu.com/817228/
[02:57] <urlin2u> celltech, hmmm it is in my 11.10 setup
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> celltech: or install xfburn, its great
[02:57] <artichoku> no, lol
[02:57] <artichoku> sec
[02:57] <celltech> I don't need burning that's the thing. And I want all the disk space as possible
[02:58] <urlin2u> celltech, if your that close to losing disc space that s the least of your problems. :D
[02:59] <celltech> I'm not that close. I'm just a person that doesn't want anything I won't use. It's an Obsessive thing I have
[02:59] <artichoku> acerimmer: ok i did that. same error
[02:59] <acerimmer> celltech: sudo apt-get clean will purge your cache of downloads associated with installed packages
[02:59] <urlin2u> OCD is a bummer  suspect
[03:00] <weiland-> Clean is beautiful
[03:00] <acerimmer> artichoku: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[03:01] <weiland-> It makes weeksystems flow and strong systems fly.
[03:02] <artichoku> acerimmer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817231/
[03:03] <acerimmer> artichoku: Do the "Fresh Installation" procedure on the ReadMe
[03:03] <weiland-> What is paste.Ubuntu.com for? I see it a lot here
[03:03] <artichoku> ok sec...
[03:03] <artichoku> there is no readme....
[03:03] <artichoku> :(
[03:04] <acerimmer> artichoku: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php README.txt
[03:04] <artichoku> weiland: it's for quickly pasting something to share
[03:04] <artichoku> ah, ty
[03:05] <acerimmer> artichoku: let me make sure we're actually communicating here.  You are building your own broadcom linux STA driver, correct??
[03:09] <mistform> how do I get the Esc key to work on fullscreen flash videos? it won't work at all and I want it to leave fullscreen when pressed.
[03:09] <artichoku> yes i am
[03:09] <artichoku> and even following those instructions it says im missing that wl.ko file
[03:10] <psyrus> okay guys, i figured it out
[03:10] <artichoku> brb
[03:10] <urlin2u> mistform, what do you want the esc key to do?
[03:10] <SachinDey> mistform are you playing flash videos on browser or video player
[03:10] <acerimmer> artichoku: 3rd item on the list...http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/Screenshot.png
[03:11] <acerimmer> artichoku: nevermind
[03:11] <artichoku> back
[03:12] <urlin2u> mistform, I see it is not working Doh.
[03:12] <psyrus> does anyone know about intellinuxgraphics.org ? i saw files for video card support under linux for intel hd 3000
[03:12] <acerimmer> artichoku: proceed from Fresh Installation...
[03:12] <psyrus> x.org's package doesn't support all the really new intel video cards
[03:12] <artichoku> yeah im there
[03:12] <artichoku> and i'm following those steps
[03:13] <artichoku> and it's telling me to insmod wl.ko
[03:13] <artichoku> and when i do, i still get no such file or derectory error
[03:13] <Drone4four> I’m trying to reinstall grub after a fresh install of Slackware which uses Lilo.  Using my LiveCD, I tried using the commands update-grub2 and grub-install but I get the same error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[03:14] <ejv> hi, how do I check the version of an installed package using apt-get ?
[03:14] <acerimmer> artichoku: start over, do the whole build again.  BTW you ARE in your sudo account for this procedure?
[03:14] <Geodesical> A question for those who are listening: I am running Jaunty Jackalope, and whenever I put in a cd-r to upgrade, it refuses to let me open any windows. I need to get to the desktop to put the update on the cd, but it takes it off and I can't. Any suggestions?
[03:14] <artichoku> yes
[03:15] <acerimmer> artichoku: took me 3 tries when I did it.  Dont' get discouraged.
[03:15] <mistform> SachinDey, streaming videos in firefox.
[03:15] <artichoku> what makes me mad is i would be fine in 9.10, or at least it was, but when i formatted and installed 9.10, it didn't work anymore
[03:15] <artichoku> even before moving to 11.10
[03:15] <jmwpc> is there a way to run etherwake as a non-root user (i already tried altering ownership & permissions)
[03:16] <Geodesical> A question for those who are listening: I am running Jaunty Jackalope, and whenever I put in a cd-r to upgrade, it refuses to let me open any windows. I need to get to the desktop to put the update on the cd, but it takes it off and I can't. Any suggestions?
[03:18] <hydrox24> Geodesical: so your trying to update from Jaunty to what?
[03:18] <artichoku> omg i'm gonna friggin scream
[03:18] <acerimmer> artichoku: what?!
[03:18] <artichoku> i'm so stupid
[03:19] <artichoku> because i was doing make install
[03:19] <artichoku> without doing make first
[03:19] <artichoku> i'm retarded
[03:19] <Drone4four> that doesn't make you stupid
[03:19] <acerimmer> artichoku: operator headspace error.  sure sigh that you should take a break and do it after sufficient rest.
[03:19] <Dougwiser> riding the short bus, now that will do it
[03:19] <hydrox24> artichoku: that makes you normal... we've all done it
[03:19] <SachinDey> Can i anyone remind me the x command to test key output?
[03:19] <SachinDey> Can i anyone remind me the x command to test key output?
[03:19] <Geodesical> hydrox24: the ocelot one, a user (ssta) told me to download it and following the prompts to reset the entire computer, he said it would be faster than upgradeing from 9.04 to 9.10 and so on.
[03:20] <artichoku> ok back to my instructions, lol
[03:20] <artichoku> alt tabbed a min
[03:20] <SachinDey> I mean the command to see the key output
[03:21] <hydrox24> Geodesical: So you boot into 9.04 and then insert the CD, and after that how does it refuse to let you open windows
[03:22] <Geodesical> hydrox24; when I click the desktop icon (or any other icon0 a bar at the bottom pops up that says its loading the application, but when it is done loading, nothing else happens.
[03:22] <artichoku> ok well now it's using that driver
[03:22] <artichoku> still didn't show up in the network manager
[03:22] <urlin2u> Geodesical, you have the important stuff backed up?
[03:23] <Geodesical> I have no important stuff to back up, so I guess yes.
[03:23] <urlin2u> !eol | Geodesical
[03:24] <hydrox24> Geodesical: really? so if you lost EVERYTHING on your computer then that's totally fine?
[03:24] <osd1000> I wonder whats going to know whats coming up on ubuntu 12.04
[03:24] <Drone4four> I’m trying to reinstall grub after a fresh install of Slackware which uses Lilo.  Using my LiveCD, I tried using the commands update-grub2 and grub-install but I get the same error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[03:24] <hydrox24> osd1000: Do you mean who's going to know?
[03:24] <urlin2u> Geodesical, personally I think that is bad advice.
[03:25] <Geodesical> No, I just got the computer yesterday at a yard sale, they said they had it for a while with windows xp but the unplugged it for a while and it reset to Ubuntu 9.04.
[03:25] <hydrox24> Drone4four: That means that it can't find the drive to install grub to... I think.
[03:25] <mistform> geodesical if you don't have any important stuff why not just try a fresh install? how long have you been running jaunty?
[03:25] <hydrox24> Drone4four: I have come across that issue too.
[03:25] <urlin2u> Geodesical, you should do a fresh install you don't want another's OS.
[03:25] <hydrox24> Geodesical: I would advise you to take the "fresh install" path too.
[03:25] <osd1000> btw jaunty is outdated. try ubuntu 10.04 if you don't want a memory hogger
[03:26] <Geodesical> mistform: about a day. I had to backtrack into grub to get it to start booting normally.
[03:26] <Drone4four> hydrox24: did you by chance come up with a remedy?
[03:26] <mistform> I believe majority has voted "Fresh Install". Burn another CD or do the flash drive install.
[03:26] <urlin2u> Geodesical, fresh install about 20 min.
[03:27] <osd1000> if you want a fresh install don't use wubi
[03:27] <linocisco> Hello all
[03:27] <Geodesical> I've tried to burn a cd, it refuses to allow me to open any programs if a cd is in the drive. as for a memory key, 2GB is too small, that's all I have.
[03:28] <linocisco> I would like to know which recovery software is best for formatted drive's NTFS partition
[03:28] <osd1000> Try memory expansion.
[03:28] <osd1000> by that
[03:28] <osd1000> i mean taking the computer appart
[03:28] <osd1000> finding the RAM slots
[03:28] <maZed_> Geodesical, you try a network install?
[03:28] <Geodesical> is there any way to fresh install directly from Ubuntu or another site to bypass the cd/memory key thingy?
[03:28] <osd1000> well you could try puppy linux
[03:28] <Geodesical> maZed; never heard of it.
[03:28] <renegade_m> hi, how can i download driver for my atheros wireless card
[03:28] <hydrox24> Drone4four: Unfortunately it was far too long ago, and I think the error occured using a different program
[03:28] <renegade_m> in ubuntu 8.10
[03:29] <acerimmer> !eol|renegade_m
[03:29] <urlin2u> renegade_m, 8.10 is end of life not supported.
[03:29] <renegade_m> really?
[03:29] <hydrox24> Geodesical: No simple way, your computer needs something to boot from while the new OS is written to your internal frive
[03:29] <renegade_m> i see..
[03:29] <renegade_m> thank you guys for the info..
[03:29] <osd1000> btw ubuntu 8.10 is very old
[03:29] <hydrox24> renegade_m: that was a bot
[03:30] <osd1000> i suggest upgrading to ubuntu 10.04
[03:30] <renegade_m> but then, does it mean I can never use my 8.10 anymore?
[03:30] <hydrox24> renegade_m: but We all would recommend upgrading if you can
[03:30] <osd1000> or 11.10
[03:30] <renegade_m> i like 8.10
[03:30] <renegade_m> i can't load with 11.10
[03:30] <osd1000> well theres aways backup
[03:30] <osd1000> backup your apps...
[03:30] <renegade_m> i cant boot
[03:30] <hydrox24> renegade_m: no, but technically channels like this shouldn't spend time supporting older EOT releases
[03:30] <hydrox24> renegade_m: that's fine
[03:30] <osd1000> try ubuntu 10.04
[03:30] <renegade_m> does 10.04 supports atheros?
[03:30] <hydrox24> renegade_m: We will probably help you anyway
[03:31] <acerimmer> renegade_m: there some reason you can't upgrade past 8.10???
[03:31] <renegade_m> thank you..:)
[03:31] <osd1000> check on google.
[03:31] <Geodesical> hydrox24; I see. isn't grub like a mini-OS (like DOS on a Windows)?
[03:31] <hydrox24> renegade_m: The newest ubuntus support almost all normal Wifi chips
[03:31] <renegade_m> i like it's speed in booting..
[03:31] <renegade_m> i can't boot good with 11.10
[03:31] <urlin2u> renegade_m, you tapping a f12 at powering on to get a boot from gui or setting the boot from the bios.
[03:31] <hydrox24> Geodesical: Not sure, I think it is somewhat like that, however a bootloader IS something in and of itself
[03:31] <renegade_m> infact i never successful in 11.10 booting the live cd.
[03:31] <acerimmer> renegade_m: try  a lighter version of ubuntu like lubuntu or xubuntu.
[03:31] <osd1000> try booting in 10.04
[03:31] <urlin2u> renegade_m, black screen?
[03:31] <osd1000> if that doesn't work
[03:32] <artichoku> ok acerimmer, sta just won't work
[03:32] <renegade_m> I know how to boot. what I mean, is successfull booting.. I end on shell alwys.
[03:32] <osd1000> try xubuntu. if that fails use lubuntu
[03:32] <artichoku> so i went to bcm43 fwcutter drivers
[03:32] <maZed_> Couldnt he just do a network bootloader that requires 35 megs, and do a network install?
[03:32] <renegade_m> yes black screen after waiting.
[03:32] <artichoku> now the wireless works
[03:32] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | renegade_m
[03:32] <tweet> 11.10 grub2 is giving me problems... he generated grub.cfg is not reflected on the boot menu... I have a separate home partition - can that cause all this?
[03:32] <acerimmer> artichoku: sorry.  we tried.
[03:32] <artichoku> but i know i'm going to have an issue with mon0
[03:32] <artichoku> i appreciate all of your help
[03:32] <osd1000> arti try ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS first. if that doesn't work use lubuntu or xubuntu
[03:32] <artichoku> i gotta hit up the wireshark and aircrack guys
[03:32] <artichoku> maybe they can shed some light
[03:33] <artichoku> i wish i could find my other laptop
[03:33] <Geodesical> hydrox24: good point. Well, appreciated, thank you all.
[03:33] <artichoku> it used atheros drivers
[03:34] <artichoku> question: i was using 64bith OS with 9.10 before. this time i'm running 32 bit
[03:34] <artichoku> what kind of difference would that make?
[03:34] <osd1000> the first ubuntu version i used was like i dunno like 9.10 or 10.04
[03:34] <tweet> can anyone suggest me something on that ?
[03:34] <osd1000> or 9.04.
[03:34] <lucksmith> hi
[03:35] <lucksmith> how could I recover formatted NTFS partition??
[03:35] <urlin2u> lucksmith, you erase it whats the situation?
[03:35] <osd1000> no way
[03:35] <osd1000> unless you have backups of your hard drive
[03:35] <artichoku> afk
[03:35] <osd1000> otherwise you have to install windows 2000
[03:36] <osd1000> or buy a retail box from the store
[03:36] <osd1000> windows xp or 7..
[03:36] <lucksmith> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[03:36] <urlin2u> !tab > osd1000
[03:36] <urlin2u> lucksmith, what puts you in the situation that needs a to recover details man. :D
[03:37] <urlin2u> !tab > artichoku
[03:37] <lucksmith> urlin2u: as I got green light, I deleted and install another OS. Now, they want old data back
[03:37] <lucksmith> urlin2u: the higher boss insists
[03:37] <urlin2u> lucksmith, has the other OS been run and how much if so.
[03:38] <lucksmith> urlin2u: I also deleted that OS
[03:38] <lucksmith> urlin2u: now it is unbootable system disk
[03:38] <maZed_> just get the install disc and do a reinstall of the OS
[03:38] <renegade_m> if for instance, I never go for an upgrade to 11.10, how do i install atheros to work in my ubuntu 8.10..:) if that is just ok.:)
[03:39] <hydrox24> lucksmith: so the only data lost id OS data? not personals like Docs and Vids and Pics?
[03:39] <urlin2u> we use testdisk but I would not guarantee anything you might try the ##windows channel  as well  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[03:39] <urlin2u> lucksmith, ^^
[03:40] <lucksmith> hydrox24: the thing is that The drive has been used to store PBX call record data from Panasonic PBX
[03:40] <artichoku> back
[03:40] <artichoku> damnit man
[03:40] <artichoku> fwcutter makes monitor mode stuck in channel -1
[03:40] <lucksmith> hydrox24: It is now time for audit and there are some outstanding overseas calls . Fanance dept needs to clarify
[03:41] <n-iCe> r8187 or rtl8187 ?
[03:41] <tweet> hi there urlin2u  !  I had no luck at all with Grub2 !!
[03:41] <urlin2u> tweet, yeah I saw that you try the forum?
[03:41] <Nach0z> woo grub2
[03:41] <deww> lucksmith: did you get written approval (email) saying that you can format the system? if so, refer to it and then investigate possibility ofdata recovery. :)
[03:41] <Geodesical> Does anyone know how to boot the Upgrade Manager?
[03:42] <lucksmith> deww: I was not lucky enough. I just got verbal approval
[03:42] <urlin2u> Geodesical, boot?
[03:42] <MimosakaRyou> why can't i delete a directory in  an ntfs partition? i already got ntfs-3g and ntfs-progs installed
[03:42] <urlin2u> MimosakaRyou, how are you trying to do it?
[03:43] <Geodesical> idk, initialize, boot, make it pop up, same dif. I need it cuz I'm gonna get to Ocelot the hard way, bit by bit.
[03:43] <urlin2u> Geodesical, it is in the menu, you have a end of life?
[03:43] <MimosakaRyou> i try to delete it from the file manager , and i even try to rmdir it , but to no avail. it just returned input/output error every single time
[03:43] <c4pt> hello i am trying to use xorg.conf with a synapitcs trackpad when gnome loads i am able to use the mouse but there is no mouse pointer at all ; when i disable xorg.conf and let ubuntu automatically setup X the mouse pointer is there
[03:43] <c4pt> how can i get the mouse pointer back with my custom xorg.conf
[03:44] <hydrox24> lucksmith: well data is sometimes recoverable from formatted partitions but you'll need to hire a professional for that.
[03:44] <Geodesical> urlin2u; yeah, I have an EOL (Jaunty).
[03:44] <urlin2u> Geodesical, you look at the eol link the bot gave?
[03:44] <lucksmith> hydrox24: ok. thanks anyway
[03:44] <hydrox24> MimosakaRyou: Make sure that it is booting Read/Write and that it boots with the correct permissions.
[03:44] <cabpa> hello, why ubutu 10.04 always hangup
[03:44] <artichoku> where can i quickly look to see what kernel version i have
[03:44] <hydrox24> lucksmith: OK, sorry that I couldn't be of more help
[03:45] <djalizod> hello
[03:45] <X_o> hell
[03:45] <X_o> o
[03:45] <urlin2u> !eol > urlin2u
[03:45] <tweet> urlin2u, not yet.. I had to leave in a hurry yesterday.. will post it onto a forum now. btw, I installed boot-repair which is now complaining about mdraid and DMRaid..
[03:45] <Geodesical> The ubottu? No.
[03:46] <urlin2u> Geodesical, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[03:46] <Geodesical> urlin2u: Thanks
[03:46] <MimosakaRyou> hydrox24 im really sorry but how to check? im so sorry for being such a noob T.T
[03:46] <hydrox24> MimosakaRyou: THat's OK, but I have to go do something
[03:46] <urlin2u> tweet, ah I suspect that is the problem now, I have no clue of the raid thang's
[03:46] <hydrox24> MimosakaRyou: Wait 5 min would you?
[03:47] <urlin2u> Geodesical, no problem. ;D
[03:47] <Geodesical> ;D
[03:47] <MimosakaRyou> ok ok. your willingness to help is greatly appreciated :)
[03:47] <Mario-linux> I install ubuntu 10.10 :D
[03:47] <Mario-linux> how do i update firefox in 10.10 to the latest version?
[03:48] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, what version you have?
[03:48] <krysits> i think that ff is fucked up
[03:48] <acerimmer> Mario-linux: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/success%20kid.jpg
[03:48] <urlin2u> !language > kryl99
[03:48] <krysits> gone away from cathedral paradigm
[03:48] <viru007> hey personal suggestion use opera
[03:48] <viru007> opera 11
[03:48] <Mario-linux> I think the version is firefox 3 or what ever you call it.
[03:49] <Mario-linux> 3.5 or what ever
[03:49] <bazhang> krysits, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:49] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[03:49] <viru007> use ppa
[03:50] <Mario-linux> Thanks. :)
[03:50] <urlin2u> viru007, opera yea a C a big bouncy C. :D
[03:50] <viru007> ididnt get u mate
[03:51] <urlin2u> viru007, just a musicians joke opera is a great browser.
[03:51] <tweet> urlin2u, I noticed something strange while reinstalling pc-grub... It lists drives where grub can be installed.. In my case, it did not show a [*] against each drive,but only a [].. any ideas?
[03:51] <Mario-linux> I didn't install updates yet.. but when i use sudo in termial it don't let me type the pword.. i asks but i can't type it... should installing the updates fix that?
[03:52] <urlin2u> tweet, it would go in the hd like sda or sdb depending on what the drive is.
[03:52] <urlin2u> the nmbr
[03:52] <urlin2u> mbr
[03:52] <urlin2u> tweet, the raid might be the problem though if your not actually running a raid.
[03:53] <lisa_> what is ppa?
[03:53] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, the password does not show.
[03:53] <urlin2u> !ppa
[03:53] <Mario-linux> i know
[03:53] <tweet> yes, it shows me the drives - /sda1 / sda7 etc... but as per some website images it does not have [*] against each one of them, only a []... when I select one, it complains that I have not selected any drive..
[03:53] <Mario-linux> but it won't let me type the password at all in termial.. but i asks for it
[03:54] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, so it refuses your passwoed?
[03:54] <lisa_> he was telling me mario
[03:54] <tweet> urlin2u, I am not worried about the Raid SSD right now
[03:54] <lisa_> it doesnt show the password being typed but it is going in, just hit enter when done
[03:55] <urlin2u> tweet, cool might be the problem though good to mention, hope you get it figured out.
[03:55] <Mario-linux> I'll install updates on ubuntu 10.10 tomorrow if it fixes the issue i'll let you know.
[03:55] <tweet> urlin2u, I hope so.. thanks for your time
[03:55] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, that wont fix a password not working
[03:56] <urlin2u> tweet, np
[03:56] <sherif> hey guys
[03:56] <sherif> wut is the function of lauchpad
[03:56] <rhapsody2012>  
[03:56] <rhapsody2012> .
[03:56] <urlin2u> !launchpad
[03:56] <acerimmer> !launchpad|sherif
[03:56] <Mario-linux> you guys misunderstood what i was saying I'll ask in the forums tomorrow if it doesn't fix the problem.. anyways.. Good Night I have school tomorrow.. :/
[03:57] <urlin2u> Mario-linux, cool
[03:57] <sherif> ok
[03:57] <sherif> shud i sign up?
[03:57] <sherif> or no need
[03:57] <urlin2u> sherif, if you need to post bugs yeah.
[03:57] <acerimmer> sherif: you do not need launchpad to use ubuntu
[03:57] <sherif> urlin2u wut kind of bugs?
[03:58] <kieppie> hi guys. me again. I'm having a spot of trouble with printing to a Canon printer from Ubuntu 11.10 to a Mac host. I've removed /etc/cups/printers.conf* & /etc/cups/ppd & restarted the cups daemon, & able to use system-config-printer to find & set as default  & successfully print a test page, but that's about it. when I try to create a duplicate or use the desktop's own tool so that I can alter settings, if all fall apart horribly. is a
[03:58] <urlin2u> sherif, any you find, there is a bug protocol for broken stuff.
[03:59] <sherif> urlin2u it says to be a member of egyptian ununtu team i have to have account in lauchpad as first step
[04:00] <hydrox24> sherif: To find and fix bugs and request features
[04:00] <urlin2u> sherif, sounds self explantory, not familiar with teams though, I have been asked to join but don't really have the time.
[04:00] <hydrox24> sherif: To find and fix bugs and request features
[04:00] <hydrox24> sorry
[04:00] <hydrox24> glitched
[04:01] <sherif> ok
[04:01] <sherif> thx
[04:01] <urlin2u> sherif, np. :D
[04:01] <sn00p> How do I stop these edid issues, My lvsd1 monitor that I have connected to my netbook keeps tblanking out,  i have a 945me intel graphics card anybody help me plz?
[04:02] <lisa_> anybody know why flash videos dont work since i upgraded from lubuntu 10 to 11?
[04:03] <viru007> i am using lmde i want to know from where to get unity 5.0 source and compile it on lmde
[04:04] <urlin2u> lisa_,  in a browser, if so which one?
[04:05] <lisa_> firefox 9.0.1, also tried in chromium with no avail.
[04:05] <urlin2u> lisa_, you have the restricted-extras installed?
[04:06] <lisa_> hmm, let me check, should i have it installed? hang on a sec
[04:06] <bazhang> viru007, linuxmintdebianedition? thats not supported here; try their support forums
[04:08] <urlin2u> lisa_, if your running unity it would be the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:08] <lisa_> how do i send a private message urlin2u?
[04:09] <urlin2u> lisa_, I think you can do /pm username
[04:09] <goblinshark> hello
[04:09] <Russian> Hi
[04:09] <goblinshark> im a newb when it comes to linux, im currently running xp would someone help me get it installed
[04:09] <goblinshark> i want to be able to run dual boot
[04:09] <goblinshark> and keep win xp not install over it
[04:09] <goblinshark> ?
[04:09] <zykotick9> urlin2u: lisa_ "/msg nick" i believe
[04:10] <bazhang> goblinshark, download the iso, burn to cd, then boot up live cd
[04:10] <linuxuz3r> hi
[04:10] <bazhang> goblinshark, the installer will see your xp install and install *next* to it
[04:10] <goblinshark> no need to partition?
[04:10] <Russian> Hey guys, what Ubuntu release are you running?
[04:10] <bazhang> goblinshark, the installer will take care of that
[04:10] <bazhang> Russian, whats the real questiion
[04:11] <goblinshark> bazahng i have ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:11] <goblinshark> ist that the right one
[04:11] <bazhang> goblinshark, sure
[04:11] <goblinshark> i also have wubi.exe but its a seperate file
[04:11] <goblinshark> when do i run wubi.exe?
[04:11] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm having a spot of trouble with printing to a Canon printer from Ubuntu 11.10 to a Mac host. I've removed /etc/cups/printers.conf* & /etc/cups/ppd & restarted the cups daemon, & able to use system-config-printer to find & set as default  & successfully print a test page, but that's about it. when I try to create a duplicate or use the desktop's own tool so that I can alter settings, if all fall apart horribly. is anyone able
[04:12] <Russian> bazhang: That is the real question, I haven't been using Ubuntu for a long time, it seems a lot has changed, I am trying to figure out if Unity really is that bad and if I should go back to 10.04
[04:12] <bazhang> goblinshark, wubi is inside of windows, not a true dual boot
[04:12] <goblinshark> so i dont need to download wubi
[04:12] <bazhang> Russian, thats not a real question; you really expect everyone in the channel to say what they are running? it varies from every supported version
[04:13] <bazhang> goblinshark, no you dont need wubi
[04:13] <goblinshark> whats wubi for then?
[04:13] <zykotick9> !wubi
[04:13] <bazhang> goblinshark, a kind of test drive, not a true dual boot
[04:13] <Russian> bazhang: not sure if you replied, I accidentally closed irc client
[04:13] <goblinshark> k
[04:13] <goblinshark> thnx
[04:13] <bazhang> Russian, please ask a specific question.
[04:14] <Russian> bazhang: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[04:14] <jperez2012> hello everyone :)
[04:14] <DotEXE> ^.^
[04:14] <AsmCoder8088> oh finally, a live channel
[04:14] <bazhang> Russian, did you have a support question? if so, please ask, and if someone knows they will answer
[04:16] <Russian> I am trying to establish what version of ubuntu to go with, just curious what other people are using
[04:16] <sunlifter> Russian- get the newest ;)
[04:16] <Russian> what version of ubunto do you use, for instance?
[04:16] <sunlifter> 11.11 now
[04:16] <MimosakaRyou> im on lucid
[04:17] <AsmCoder8088> I'm using "Memphis"
[04:17] <sunlifter> *11.10
[04:17] <Russian> sunlifter: Aah, thanks mate.
[04:17] <DotEXE> i use 10.10, unity makes me want to pull my hair out.
[04:17] <junoip422> SOPA wins :S -> http://adf.ly/50eZt
[04:18] <MimosakaRyou> u need to switch to xfce or something
[04:18] <DotEXE> i prefer LXDE to XFCE
[04:18] <DotEXE> im currently on Mint LXDE on my netbook
[04:18] <DotEXE> i quite like it
[04:19] <Russian> DotEXE: Yeah, I don't like Unity at all, trying out Gnome 3 atm.
[04:19] <DotEXE> I despise Gnome 3 as well
[04:19] <DotEXE> :P
[04:20] <Russian> DotEXE: I tried Mint, didn't run too well for me
[04:20] <preludelinux> unity is not very nice to use .... but it is possible to change to many other desktops  ... but it seems most of the big ones are all going somewhere most desktop users are still scratching there heads wondering why
[04:20] <sunlifter> And I prefer CL :)
[04:20] <DotEXE> Gnome 3 + MGSE looks doable though
[04:20] <Russian> preludelinux: I was trying to do a compiz --replace command in the terminal but I am left with no borders on all my windows and my keyboard stops working
[04:21] <e131> I love unity on 11.10
[04:22]  * krysits prefers kde and qt 4.0
[04:22]  * cheapie prefers scrotwm or fluxbox
[04:23]  * preludelinux  is waiting for something game changing 
[04:23] <DotEXE> prefers CLi only installs
[04:23] <DotEXE> lulz
[04:23] <DotEXE> jk
[04:24] <cheapie> DotEXE: Is there any sort of web browser with image support that works without a GUI installed, or is such a thing not possible?
[04:28] <magn3ts> How can I control my audio via command line?
[04:28] <[[thufir]]> cheapie: I don't understand the context of the question.  Why would you want that?  If you only have terminal, then you can't have images.  Alternately, if you have X, then you might as well use a mouse.  Please explain the context.
[04:28] <preludelinux> wheres the full 3D desktop , wheres the good voice recognition (voice controlled commanded shell / cmd line would be interesting), holographic  keyboards/ user interfaces , face / hand tracking ~ where everything come together on the desktop
[04:28] <zykotick9> magn3ts: alsamixer is one option
[04:28] <magn3ts> zykotick9: sorry, I meant in a scriptable manner :)
[04:29] <zykotick9> magn3ts: you could try aumix perhaps, it seems to have command line options
[04:30] <viru007> hello i wanted to know how to compile unity 5.0 in lmde
[04:30] <magn3ts> zykotick9: hm it doesn't see my "mixer".
[04:30] <magn3ts> :/
[04:30] <sn00p> How do I stop these edid issues, My lvsd1 monitor that I have connected to my netbook keeps tblanking out,  i have a 945me intel graphics card anybody help me plz?
[04:32] <Hetep> Hola, K3B gives error: "Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device
[04:32] <Hetep> communication breaks or freezes immediately after that."
[04:33] <besogon> hi! HOw to grab screen into video file? What program is more suitable?
[04:35] <zykotick9> besogon: gtk-recordmydesktop is a GUI option
[04:35] <opdynamiks> besogon, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjbtlzOY7S4 video tutorial on screen recording with Ubuntu
[04:35] <hydrox24> cheapie:  I don't think that it's possible
[04:35] <magn3ts> zykotick9: amixer -c 0 sset Master playback 80% unmute  :) :)
[04:36] <besogon> opdynamiks: zykotick9 thanks
[04:36] <zykotick9> magn3ts: nice work!
[04:36] <magn3ts> lol except unmute doesn't seem to work :S
[04:38] <bobo37773> wow that is a lot of name switches
[04:40] <flowerpot> I want to install git on Ubuntu 10.04 on EC2.  I've run sudo apt-get update, but when I run sudo apt-get install git, I get this problem: http://pastebin.com/Sm4j0jJj
[04:40] <flowerpot> Is git not in the Ubuntu repos?
[04:40] <zykotick9> cheapie: looks like links is capable of showing graphics without Xorg... How I Met Your Mother S04E24 The Leap.webm
[04:40] <zykotick9> cheapie: sorry paste fail there
[04:41] <zykotick9> cheapie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/a-web-browser-using-framebuffer-173622/
[04:41] <Flannel> flowerpot: the package name is get-core
[04:42] <flowerpot> Flannel, in the future, what should I do to determine that on my own?
[04:42] <cheapie> flowerpot: Go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for "git"
[04:43] <flowerpot> Flannel, actually, apt-cache show get-core says that no packages were found
[04:43] <Flannel> flowerpot: `apt-cache search git` (a lot, you can grep for git though), and you'll notice (at the end, where its easy to see) that there's a bunch of git-foo, where foo is some other cvs (cvs, svn, email, etc)
[04:43] <Flannel> flowerpot: sorry, git-core
[04:43] <flowerpot> I see
[04:43] <Flannel> flowerpot: then apt-cache show git-foo (any one of them) will show you a dependency of git-core
[04:44] <Flannel> flowerpot: It looks like the package used to be called git, that was probably a monolithic package, and now it's split out into all the subpackages
[04:44] <flowerpot> Flannel, got it.  Thanks!  works now
[04:46] <magn3ts> sigh, why oh why is alsa's amixer not working in ubuntu
[04:46] <magn3ts> there are many many many posts describing that unmuting is borked
[04:47] <goblinshark> alright, got ubuntu iso  ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso . burnt to a disc now run wubi?
[04:47] <bazhang> goblinshark, not wubi, no
[04:47] <refluxtumblr> so, i just installed ubuntu and it's asking for an admin password, even though i removed it from my account to make things easier for my tech inept dad
[04:47] <refluxtumblr> any ideas?
[04:48] <goblinshark> there is wubi.exe on it
[04:48] <goblinshark> what do i run
[04:48] <bazhang> goblinshark, boot with the installer disk in, and bios set to look for cd first
[04:48] <goblinshark> i cant read the readme
[04:48] <goblinshark> because it says README.diskdefines
[04:48] <tigrang> im on ubuntu 10.04.3 server. date and date -u show different times. How can I fix this?
[04:49] <Flannel> tigrang: what do you mean by 'fix'?  that's not incorrect behavior
[04:51] <goblinshark> i cant run it from the disk
[04:51] <goblinshark> are u sure this is not going to delete windows?
[04:51] <Flannel> goblinshark: running wubi.exe will not delete windows.
[04:51] <goblinshark> he said not to run wubi
[04:51] <goblinshark> ?
[04:52] <refluxtumblr> it keeps coming up with an authentication error, even when i enter the admin password i set
[04:52] <goblinshark> im confused
[04:52] <Flannel> goblinshark: What is your ultimate goal? dual boot? or what?
[04:52] <goblinshark> dual boot
[04:52] <Flannel> goblinshark: with a standalone partition? or without repartitioning?
[04:52] <goblinshark> hmmm good question, im not really sure which do u think is best?
[04:53] <goblinshark> if it's dual boot is there really any need to partition?
[04:53] <Flannel> goblinshark: It depends on what you're hoping to achieve.  If it's just "try Ubuntu", then wubi is a good choice.  If you're looking to actually have two full-fledged OSs, you'll want to repartition and do a traditional dual boot.
[04:54] <goblinshark> whats the drawback of wubi?
[04:55] <Flannel> the entire Ubuntu filesystem sits inside your windows drive, so if anything happens to that partition, you'll lose both OSes.  There is a small performance (disk IO) penalty, but it's not significant.
[04:55] <goblinshark> why can't have have two full-fledged OSs with wubi?
[04:55] <goblinshark> oic
[04:56] <goblinshark> so if it sits inside my windows drive can i have the option on bootup to select which OS I want to startup?
[04:57] <almoxarife> goblinshark: you can have two os's within wubi
[04:57] <junoip864> new version? http://adf.ly/50eZt
[04:57] <goddard> any new icons you can install for ubuntu?
[04:57] <Flannel> goblinshark: Yes.  Either way you do it, you choose the OS to boot at power on.
[04:57] <viru7> faenze is cool
[04:57] <bazhang> junoip864, stop pasting that
[04:58] <artichoku> omg omg omg
[04:58] <artichoku> linux is pissin me off
[04:58] <goblinshark> can i have two os within windows
[04:58] <goblinshark> since windows was instlaled first?
[04:58] <artichoku> damn u updates messin' up my wireless drivers
[04:59] <almoxarife> goblinshark: you can have two os's within wubi
[04:59] <goblinshark> ?
[04:59] <goblinshark> windows is installed before wubi
[04:59] <almoxarife> goblinshark: who you talking to?
[04:59] <goblinshark> i'm not partitioning
[04:59] <viru7> use virtualbox 1st that would help u get hands-on xperience with ubuntu and then go for complete install
[04:59] <goblinshark> u
[04:59] <almoxarife> goblinshark: then put my nick in the convo
[05:00] <magn3ts> Can anyone help me unmute my audio? amixer set Master unmute does not work.
[05:00] <goblinshark> almoxarife, i just want to try it out
[05:00] <Flannel> goblinshark: To install with wubi, run wubi.exe from within windows.
[05:00] <goblinshark> ok i want to partition
[05:00] <magn3ts> even though everything in alsamixer is unmuted, gnome-shell has the icon dimmed and the audio is inaudible.
[05:00] <almoxarife> goblinshark: you already have wubi installed?
[05:01] <Flannel> goblinshark: Alright. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot walks you through that process
[05:01] <Foxhoundz> For some reason maximized applications running on 11.10 sometimes don't have the window controls to minimize/exit/restore the window
[05:01] <Foxhoundz> Fix it.
[05:01] <opform249_> I have a wireless NIC card issue...can anybody help?
[05:01] <goddard> artichoku: what you need to be a ultra cool hacker and jack wireless ? :D
[05:02] <haylo> thats a stupid hacker
[05:02] <viru7> stupid hacker ftw....
[05:02] <haylo> that steals from their neghbors something too petty to be worth getting in trouble for
[05:02] <neatbook> hi
[05:02] <neatbook> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15SpmVsxTYPmPX1l2U4UUh48W7bpZd9AIg9WqT5TZBY0/edit
[05:02] <opform249_> foxhoundz...are the window controls in the far top left for you...
[05:02] <viru7>  :@ plz help me with samba config any1?
[05:02] <opform249_> by default, they are not shown unless you hove over them'
[05:02] <Foxhoundz> opform249_: Yes.
[05:02] <neatbook> can anyone tell me what that shell script does? is it safe to run on my linux??
[05:03] <haylo> you are not much of a hacker if you blow you cover with your neighbors wireless
[05:03] <Foxhoundz> opform249_: I did hover over them. They are completely gone and I lose the ability to exit the app unless I use the keyboard shortcut to kill the process
[05:03] <haylo> i mean they probably know its you by your clothes or the way you act
[05:03] <Foxhoundz> Which is quite troublesome
[05:03] <opform249_> which applications don't show the controls?
[05:03] <almoxarife> !ot | haylo
[05:03] <Foxhoundz> I was on Libre Office Writer
[05:03] <Foxhoundz> but this happened on Firefox as well
[05:03] <opform249_> hang on
[05:04] <haylo> almoxarife, it was a response to someone telling a linux user to hack some wireless instead of an actual solution
[05:04] <dies_irae> ei
[05:05] <dies_irae> why in the world I can have mplayer and mplayer2 installed at the same time???
[05:05] <haylo> this tyoe of chilish behaviour should be addressed no matter what the circumstance
[05:05] <dies_irae> this exceeds levels of retardation.
[05:05] <hydrox24> dies_irae: does it break anything?
[05:05] <hydrox24> dies_irae: if not, don't complain! just thank goodness that it works
[05:06] <almoxarife> dies_irae: un-install mplayer2
[05:06] <dies_irae> that's not the point. the point is having BOTH playing along.
[05:06] <almoxarife> hydrox24: and it does break mplayer
[05:06] <dies_irae> whever decided this one or the other gots to get fired from ubuntu!!
[05:07] <almoxarife> dies_irae: you had to be the one who installed mplayer and mplayer two, gods didnt help you
[05:08] <gustcm> can someone help install my webcam?
[05:08] <gustcm> i don't know, even with lspci and lsusb
[05:08] <gustcm> http://paste.org/44384
[05:08] <sn00p> How do I stop these edid issues, My lvsd1 monitor that I have connected to my netbook keeps tblanking out,  i have a 945me intel graphics card anybody help me plz?
[05:08] <gustcm> can someone help install my webcam?
[05:08] <gustcm> i don't know, even with lspci and lsusb
[05:09] <gustcm> http://paste.org/44384
[05:09] <dies_irae> gustcm: perhaps, only if you repeat 5 more times.
[05:09] <gustcm> sorry
[05:09] <bobo37773> neatbook: Deletes and compresses files.
[05:09] <gustcm> dies_irae: sry
[05:10] <almoxarife> gustcm: tried the webcam with some app?
[05:10] <gustcm> cheese
[05:10]  * fsheikh test
[05:10] <almoxarife> gustcm: got vlc?
[05:11] <gustcm> no
[05:11] <hydrox24> gustcm: you should get it... It's pretty awesome!
[05:11] <almoxarife> gustcm: get vlc
[05:11] <gustcm> ok
[05:11] <almoxarife> gustcm: then check the cam with it
[05:12] <gustcm> almoxarife: br?
[05:12] <almoxarife> gustcm: br?
[05:12] <bobo37773> neatbook: There are a few switches / user defined variables. As a rule of thumb I would say do not run random scripts from strangers but that one looks harmless enough. You should not need to run it as sudo / root since everything looks like it is done in your home folder.
[05:12] <gustcm> almoxarife:  português
[05:13] <almoxarife> gustcm: ilheu
[05:13] <preludelinux> running random scripts as root sounds like a VERY bad idea
[05:14] <gustcm> almoxarife:  testei com o vlc e diz que não tem dispositivo
[05:14] <psp-0854> I have a question but I would have to paste about 48 characters of terminal output.  How would I do that?
[05:14] <gustcm> almoxarife: viu o paste?
[05:14] <almoxarife> gustcm: english!
[05:14] <bazhang> gustcm, english please
[05:15] <gustcm> almoxarife: tried vlc and says: no devices
[05:15] <gustcm> almoxarife: http://paste.org/44384
[05:16] <sn00p> How do I stop these edid issues, My lvsd1 monitor that I have connected to my netbook keeps tblanking out,  i have a 945me intel graphics card anybody help me plz? it happens when I go to resolution 1024x768
[05:18] <almoxarife> gustcm: run on terminal  'lsusb'
[05:18] <psp-0854> If i get a return from lshw of *-logicalcpu:0 width: 32bit and *-logicalcpu:1 width: 32bit.  Im pretty sure its a single processor.  why am I getting :0 and :1?
[05:18] <pazaco> hello
[05:19] <gustcm> almoxarife: did you saw the paste ?
[05:19] <psp-0854> Hi pazaco
[05:19] <almoxarife> gustcm: run on terminal 'lsusb' and pastebin
[05:19] <pazaco> hi psp-0854
[05:20] <tigrang> Flannel, k, was just wondering. Using mod_expires with apache but Expires date isnt being set correctly and status is always 200 instead of 304. Checking that was my last desperate attempt
[05:20] <eddi3x3i> can anyone help me fix my brightness? I cannot change my brightness on my screen
[05:20] <eddi3x3i> I have no /pci/acpi/video folder
[05:20] <eddi3x3i> either
[05:20] <gustcm> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/3cFfe5Yd
[05:20] <hydrox24> eddi3x3i: how do you try to change it?
[05:20] <tonsofpcs> suggested method for updating whois on older (still in support period) LTS distributions?
[05:21] <hydrox24> eddi3x3i: and what computer is the relevant to?
[05:21] <eddi3x3i> sudo echo -n 50 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[05:21] <eddi3x3i> toshiba satellite
[05:21] <Flannel> tigrang: Have you tried asking in #httpd? (the apache channel)  They may be more aware of any gotchas
[05:21] <hydrox24> eddi3x3i: I use the satellite a660 and my physical buttons for changing brightness work fine?
[05:21] <eddi3x3i> 745D-S4230
[05:21] <hydrox24> eddi3x3i: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:22] <tigrang> Flannel, yea, asked there before I came here with that question. Thats where we got to and no other suggestions
[05:22] <almoxarife> gustcm: what type of webcam is it? installed(fixed) or usb?
[05:22] <gustcm> almoxarife: fixed
[05:23] <sn00p> How do I stop these edid issues, My lvsd1 monitor that I have connected to my netbook keeps tblanking out,  i have a 945me intel graphics card anybody help me plz? it happens when I go to resolution 1024x768
[05:23] <Flannel> tigrang: What do you have in your config file?
[05:23] <Xourii> When the next version of Ubuntu comes out, will I have to burn a new DVD all over again?
[05:23] <Kimble> Hey. I need a compressing fs for Ubuntu 11.10. Which is the easiest to install?
[05:23] <hydrox24> Xourii: To make a clean install: yes
[05:24] <urlin2u> Xourii, a cd is best to have anyay, what you running?
[05:24] <almoxarife> gustcm: noticed that your machine does not see it? it does not exist to it, what type of machine you have, specific
[05:24] <hydrox24> Xourii: but you can just do a dist-upgrade
[05:24] <Xourii> Not a clean wipe
[05:24] <Xourii> Is upgrading the OS as easy as say, an update?
[05:24] <zykotick9> hydrox24: dist-upgrade has basically nothing to do with upgrading to a new version
[05:25] <hydrox24> zykotick9: sorry, your right
[05:25] <hydrox24> zykotick9: getting my terminology mixed up
[05:25] <christiantarry> sn00p:  sounds like your graphics card can't handle that resolution
[05:25] <christiantarry> might have to suffice with 640x
[05:25] <pazaco> I'm trying to find where i got my distro at, interested in asking some questions about installing Ubuntu, brb
[05:25] <hydrox24> Xourii: More or less, though some people find that it breaks thing
[05:25] <hydrox24> s
[05:25] <Xourii> And when will the next version come out?
[05:25] <gustcm> almoxarife:  http://tinyurl.com/6tzg8rc
[05:26] <sn00p> christiantarry, it works just fine on my netbook screen but not my extended monitor
[05:26] <hydrox24> Xourii: Not sure, will it be April? (thus the ##.04)
[05:27] <bobo37773> sn00p: How are you setting the resolution? With a gui or xrandr?
[05:27] <sn00p> bobo37773, gui
[05:27] <gustcm> almoxarife: 	Intel® Core™ i7 2630QM (sandy bridge)
[05:28] <bobo37773> sn00p: See if using cli works any different
[05:28] <sn00p> bobo37773, I dont know how to do the xrandx resolution
[05:29] <hydrox24> sn00p: type in xrandr by itself to list available resolutions
[05:30] <almoxarife> gustcm: pastebin xorg.0.log
[05:30] <sn00p> l
[05:30] <Kimble> Out of Reiser4 and Btrfs, which would be easiest to implement on Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:30] <tigrang> Flannel, I figured it out
[05:31] <tigrang> Flannel, short version of what was wrong, symlink was setup wrong
[05:31] <Flannel> tigrang: Glad you solved it.
[05:31] <pazaco> aha! So if anyone can help, etc? it ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin, the file i burned to dvd is called: precise-alternate-powerpc.iso
[05:31] <tigrang> thanks
[05:31] <bobo37773> sn00p: Something like -->           xrandr --output lvsd1 --mode 1024x768
[05:32] <sn00p> I dont have to put the hertz in?
[05:32] <bobo37773> sn00p: But your monitor name might not actually be lvsd1 in x
[05:32] <bobo37773> sn00p: I never have
[05:32] <bobo37773> sn00p: I think you can if you want.
[05:32] <malac0da> So I am getting this error while trying to use jhbuild
[05:33] <malac0da> I: unknown keys defined in configuration file: autogenargs_docs
[05:33] <pazaco> brb
[05:33] <malac0da> but I copied the .jhbuildrc file from jhbuild from jhbuildonubuntu or something
[05:36] <bobo37773> sn00p: Did you figure it out?
[05:37] <loius65> SOPA wins :S -> http://adf.ly/50eZt
[05:38] <urlin2u> spam
[05:40] <pazaco> that is fake msg
[05:40] <christiantarry> snoop your graphics card has to work a little harder putting it out to a bigger screen even if it is the same resolution
[05:40] <pazaco> advertising
[05:41] <BigTaxi> requesting help with some bridging issues
[05:41] <pazaco> the .iso file is 724 MiB, so how much USB do i need if i install it on usb?
[05:41] <pazaco> i wonder?
[05:42] <bobo37773> pazaco: 2GB should be fine.
[05:42] <libryder> anyone know how to cut all tcp connections?
[05:42] <Kimble> Has btrfs been removed from the standard repos?
[05:42] <bobo37773> libryder: Disconnect from internet.
[05:42] <libryder> i have a feeling my vps was hacked and i am trying to trace where the high bandwidth is coming from
[05:42] <BigTaxi> my ethernet port continuously disconnects and reconnects. it is an interesting problem
[05:42] <pazaco> bobo, will it run faster on USB drive or firewire???
[05:42] <libryder> bobo37773: that would be pretty unwise considering it's a VPS
[05:43] <bobo37773> pazaco: I don't know. Is it a one time install?
[05:44] <pazaco> i got it on a DVD image, wnat to install it on external something to play with it first
[05:44] <bobo37773> libryder: Just giving you a hard time. Use "tcpkill" to kill tcp connections. It is part of the "dsniff" package
[05:44] <BigTaxi> please get to me when you can
[05:45] <pazaco> The idea with this disk is that i can use it repeatedly, so i'm not wanting to unlod it , dual boot my hd quite yet, not too sure about the distro
[05:45] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Try assigning yourself a static ip address on your router and see if the problem persists.
[05:46] <BigTaxi> well its more complex than that
[05:46] <bobo37773> ?
[05:46] <BigTaxi> the interet through the wireless is fine
[05:46] <BigTaxi> however, the ethernet cable to my xbox 360 doesnt work
[05:46] <BigTaxi> on my PC, it works fine
[05:46] <BigTaxi> and with the same exact settings on the laptop, it just flickers, connected, discon nected
[05:46] <sidvee> Hey! can someone tell me which one to download for 12.04 distro? I mean I cant think of anyone between Daily Build,Alpha 1 and daily-live. What is the difference between them?
[05:47] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: How is it more complicated?
[05:47] <BigTaxi> so with the PC, with ubuntu, the 360 gets bridged internet, on my laptop, same exact settings, it doesnt
[05:47] <pazaco> Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) alternate install CD
[05:47] <pazaco> For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines.
[05:47] <pazaco> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[05:47] <sherif_> how can i change gui to kde
[05:48] <BigTaxi> i'm just guessing it is something in the code somewhere. i'd just like the xbox to be more portable.
[05:48] <libryder> bobo37773:  i think i am going to block a range of IP's... i've been averaging 5+mbps over the past day
[05:48] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: You are using computer as a gateway? Is that what you are saying?
[05:48] <BigTaxi> yes
[05:48] <BigTaxi> two, actually, but the one i want to work does not.
[05:48] <bobo37773> libryder: In that case iptables is what you want to check out for sure.
[05:48] <libryder> i'm configuring moblock right now
[05:48] <BigTaxi> what command is that
[05:48] <Kimble> Can someone suggest a compressing fs that doesn't require a re-compiled kernel?
[05:48] <bobo37773> libryder: iplist / ipblock is also pretty good.
[05:48] <overclucker> libryder: checkout iptables, too
[05:49] <BigTaxi> iplist command not found
[05:49] <BigTaxi> iptables asks if i wanted iptables -h
[05:49] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: I was talking to libryder
[05:49] <overclucker> then you want iptables -h
[05:49] <BigTaxi> oh.
[05:50] <sidvee> What is the difference between 1. http://goo.gl/VWV6 2. http://goo.gl/oy1N0 3. http://goo.gl/iAT1F
[05:50] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Does it work if you only have one thing connected to your computer gateway? Just computer OR xbox?
[05:51] <BigTaxi> well, both computers connect to the wireless. only one functions successfully as a bridge.
[05:51] <BigTaxi> to the xbox
[05:51] <paijem> yes
[05:51] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Oh, OK
[05:51] <bobo37773> So, do you think it may be a configuration error?
[05:51] <libryder> moblock maintains a list of ip's/ranges to automatically block
[05:52] <BigTaxi> i don't know the network settings for both are exactly the same, concerning the cable from xbox to computer
[05:52] <BigTaxi> one computer just can't seem to read the cable.
[05:52] <X0Rc0re> need help with connecting to my VPN, i use this command to start my VPN /etc/init.d/openvpn restart
[05:52] <BigTaxi> or some such.
[05:52] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: How did you set up your computer to act as a gateway?
[05:53] <pazaco> Well, since I have only invested 10 cents, i could just ask, what Ubuntu distro shluld i use to my PowerBook G4 (powerpc) from a USB stick?
[05:53] <gokulnath> how could I get the smooth fonts in 11.10 in 11.04 ?
[05:53] <BigTaxi> the one that works is set up with ipv6 ignored, 1pv4 set to auto, and the available to all users checked
[05:53] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to install passenger's nginx module, and it keeps telling me that ruby development headers aren't installed.  I've installed ruby1.8-dev and im running 11.10
[05:53] <ubuntu_> any ideas?
[05:54] <BigTaxi> both are set like that
[05:54] <ubuntu_> I don't know where to check for them if they'd be in my path or anything
[05:54] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Through networkmanager gui or what?
[05:54] <sidvee> What is the difference between 1. http://goo.gl/VWV6 2. http://goo.gl/oy1N0 3. http://goo.gl/iAT1F
[05:54] <BigTaxi> yes. network manager
[05:54] <BigTaxi> network connections is the name of the program, tbs
[05:55] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Did you enable traffic forwarding? Also, did it ever work?
[05:56] <BigTaxi> how do you enable traffic forwarding? i ran across that online somewhere and entered it in the terminal, but there was no change
[05:56] <BigTaxi> actually, no recongition of anything happening at all
[05:56] <BigTaxi> yes, actually
[05:56] <BigTaxi> it worked halfway through a movie through the xbox
[05:57] <BigTaxi> and has been unrecoverable
[05:57] <BigTaxi> since
[05:57] <bobo37773> Did you get the information on how to do this on the wiki? As in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[05:57] <pazaco> sidvee, the Alternate was suggested if you live where connections are slow or not available at the time
[05:57] <pazaco> that why i got that one
[05:58] <pazaco> or why it was suggested in an article i read somewhere
[05:58] <BigTaxi> the connection sharing isnt the problem, because right now the cord to the xbox, (eth1) isnt even sticking around to be interacted with
[05:58] <sidvee> pazaco: Sorry! But which one is the alternate?
[05:58] <BigTaxi> it just connects and disconnects
[05:58] <sidvee> pazaco: dumb me! Got you!
[05:58] <pazaco> http://goo.gl/iAT1F
[05:59] <pazaco> my DSL is way too slow sometimes
[05:59] <BigTaxi> whereas on the functioning connection, it just successfully connects the first time
[05:59] <pazaco> Verizon
[05:59] <flowerpot> is the execute bit necessary for .pem key files?
[05:59] <sidvee> pazaco: And what is the difference between alpha 1 and daily build?
[05:59] <flowerpot> private keys, that is
[05:59] <pazaco> not sure
[06:00] <Kimble> How can I force a USB flash drive to mount r/w for all users, and not just for root?
[06:00] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: How did you set up your iptables rules? Also, are you sure that you have the right dnsmasq installed?
[06:00] <sidvee> pazaco: can you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11616995 Didn't make sense to me though!
[06:01] <BigTaxi> i don't know the answer to either of those questions.
[06:01] <BigTaxi> i just wouldnt be able to tell you.
[06:01] <pazaco> brb sidvee ( i read slow)
[06:02] <sidvee> pazaco: nvm. Take your time. :-)
[06:03] <urlin2u> Sid9, the alpha is an image from dec 1 the daily is with all the updates.
[06:03] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Maybe you should try the method in the link I just sent you.
[06:03] <pazaco> normally alpha build means its full of bugs, beta is debugged, and etc., less buggy
[06:03] <urlin2u> sidvee, wron nic ^^
[06:03] <BigTaxi> sudo killall dnsmasq?
[06:03] <BigTaxi> no dice, didn't work.
[06:04] <pazaco> sidvee, alpha is without updates then?
[06:04] <sidvee> pazaco: urlin2u what i understand is that, alpha 1 is a stable one.
[06:04] <rere> hell
[06:04] <rere> hello
[06:05] <pazaco> oh, well then, hmmm
[06:05] <sidvee> pazaco: not sure.
[06:05]  * rere 
[06:05] <urlin2u> sidvee, nope, alpha really means the time in development, it is in development still not to be considered stable till release
[06:05] <rere> hello all
[06:06] <karthick87> How to install openoffice version 3 in ubuntu 10.10?
[06:06] <rere> ask google
[06:06] <pazaco> sidvee: i'm gonna scrool up and look at that again, this is the same question i'm on - unless this is your answer to my question
[06:07] <sidvee> urlin2u: that means, once all the changes are labeled as stabled they make it permanent and call it "alpha" release. Look at the timeline of release
[06:07] <rere> all :
[06:07] <urlin2u> karthick87, you will have to purge libreoffice and remove its folder afterward in home then go to openoffice and get the package you want.
[06:07] <newguy> How does one get flash to work in 11.10? I haven't been able to do it
[06:08] <Guest70941> what is the name for the begginers channel on irc
[06:09] <rere> up tou you
[06:09] <hydrox24> Guest70941: this is it I guess
[06:09] <Guest70941> lol
[06:09] <hydrox24> Guest70941: if you want ubuntu help that is
[06:09] <pazaco> sidvee: we need to search a bit more, there was a chart on all this somewhere, I'm remembering now
[06:09] <sidvee> rere: Please don't spam. If you have any question post it.
[06:09] <urlin2u> sidvee, your a new user eh?    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule?action=show&redirect=PreciseReleaseSchedule
[06:09] <your> sidve : i'm so sorry
[06:09] <urlin2u> Guest70941, #ubuntu-beginners
[06:10] <vaizguy> is it possible that the future ubuntu releases will have better switchable graphics compatability?
[06:10] <your> vaizguy : yes
[06:10] <hydrox24> vaizguy: switchable graphics?
[06:10] <pazaco> yep, me too, Freenode /list is inaccessable on my computer, sorry - - -  . going to #ubuntu-beginners
[06:11] <vaizguy> Intel/ATI
[06:12] <urlin2u> vaizguy, hard to say open source some times is reversed engineered when the driver people don't build for linux or open source.
[06:12] <sidvee> urlin2u: That timeline is self explanatory! Alpha is more stable, you see!
[06:12] <libryder> http://i53.tinypic.com/o6g2zm.png there is no way my sites get that much traffic
[06:12] <urlin2u> sidvee, if you say so, stable is a subjective ideal here.
[06:12] <vaizguy> @urlin2u, ok
[06:12] <your> how to install theme gor irc?
[06:12] <newguy> I need a little help with firefox/flash. The plugin isn't working
[06:12] <karthick87> urlin2u: I dont find version 3 in openoffice site..
[06:13] <libryder> i blocked 112-117.0.0.0 and my traffic is back to normal
[06:13] <sidvee> urlin2u: daily_build = last_alpha_release + all_updates_till_now
[06:13] <your> i'm indonesian
[06:14] <Guest70941>  where can i go for refrences on linux like shell commands and such
[06:14] <urlin2u> karthick87, not sue about specifically 3.0
[06:14] <urlin2u> sure
[06:15] <guest1> hi everyone
[06:15] <your> hi
[06:15] <guest1> need your help
[06:15] <your> hi too guest1
[06:15] <urlin2u> sidvee, nothing in development is considered stable and should only be used a a secondary OS at best for testing, is the basic idea, not for noobs in other words as a main OS, not saying you are but thats the word.
[06:16] <BigTaxi> yeah... none of this is helping.
[06:16] <guest1> having encountered problem in using qemu-kvm
[06:16] <urlin2u> sidvee, it has not been released.
[06:16] <sidvee> urlin2u: that was harsh!
[06:16] <guest1> who can help me pls
[06:16] <rere> pls?
[06:16] <libryder> weirdest thing... i had soooo many requests that were hitting the same exact image (1+mb)
[06:17] <libryder> just non-stop, hitting that image
[06:17] <JAM>  test
[06:17] <Ivoz> I can't boot atm, nvidia drivers won't load. How can I disable the kernel loading the nvidia module and use (is it?) vesa drivers instead to reinstall?
[06:17] <urlin2u> sidvee, don't take it harshly, it is not directed at you or your skills tool box you just want to make sure you know what a development is.
[06:17] <Ivoz> (I can access the filessystem through windows)
[06:17] <rere> i'm beginners :-)
[06:18] <rere> who can help me?
[06:18] <Ivoz> rere: just ask
[06:18] <urlin2u> rere, ask your question and if anybody knows they will answer
[06:19] <rere> oke, my english is not perfect, i'm indonesian.. sorry
[06:19] <BigTaxi> oh my god... how do i return to me@computer in the terminal
[06:19] <sidvee> urlin2u: First you throw barbs and then say not to take personally, is harsh. Leave it. I don't flaunt my development skills coz am not one. Anyways, am still missing your point.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Ivoz, you running a wubi?
[06:19] <BigTaxi> i'm in /bin/ mode or whatnot
[06:19] <BigTaxi> i hate meing retarded...
[06:19] <urlin2u> sidvee, hehe your a moron. ;D
[06:20] <libryder> i don't know why i don't idle here more often
[06:20] <Ivoz> urlin2u: nope
[06:20] <BigTaxi> any advice on how to get off of /bin/ mode and back to me@computer mode in the terminal?
[06:20] <sidvee> urlin2u: No. Trust me. Am still not getting your point. That explains my "noobness". Must be pleasing for you to hear. :P
[06:21] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: ctl+alt+f7?
[06:21] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: /bin/ is a folder. I'm not aware of it as a 'mode'
[06:21] <BigTaxi> well in ther terminal i no longer have me@computer
[06:21] <BigTaxi> to which i wish to return
[06:22] <urlin2u> sidvee, no not at all I explained it but you have your own version it is cool man, who says I'm not a noob. :D
[06:22] <infid> on ubuntu, ./configure is saying "configure: error: cannot find the flags to link with Boost thread". Any ideas?
[06:22] <Flannel> BigTaxi: Please paste a bit of the history of that terminal into a pastebin.
[06:22] <BigTaxi> hahaha
[06:22] <BigTaxi> prepare yourselves
[06:22] <BigTaxi> error: "Invalid argument" reading key "net"
[06:22] <BigTaxi> error: "ipv4.ip_forward" is an unknown key
[06:22] <BigTaxi> $ dev
[06:22] <BigTaxi> /bin/sh: dev: not found
[06:22] <BigTaxi> $ /bin/
[06:22] <FloodBot1> BigTaxi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <BigTaxi> /bin/sh: /bin/: Permission denied
[06:22] <Flannel> BigTaxi: pastebin, not the channel.
[06:23] <North> hi
[06:23] <Ivoz> lol.
[06:23] <Flannel> BigTaxi: paste.ubuntu.com
[06:23] <North> I am from S. Korea
[06:23] <rere> north, hi
[06:23] <North> I am a newbie to Ubunto
[06:23] <programmeduser> Epic name.
[06:23] <Ivoz> rere, North: there is also #ubuntu-beginners
[06:23] <urlin2u> North, cool welcome.
[06:23] <North> it's very difficult to use for me.
[06:24] <rere> North , I too
[06:24] <North> I am a Windows XP person.
[06:24] <sidvee> urlin2u: eh! No. Explain to me again. I really want to know!
[06:24] <dc5ala> BigTaxi, just type in "cd" without parameters and it brings you back to your home directory, if that is what you mean
[06:24] <programmeduser> Nothings hard about Ubuntu! It's all just different :D
[06:24] <BigTaxi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/817330/
[06:24] <Ivoz> North: it is certainly different from windows
[06:24] <North> I am Windows person.
[06:25] <North> can you tell me where I can run the command?
[06:25] <Flannel> BigTaxi: What did you do before the sudo command?
[06:25] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: did yuo try ctl+alt+f7
[06:25] <programmeduser> Terminal = CMD
[06:25] <rere> north , you can se in cd /usr/bin
[06:25] <urlin2u> sidvee, basically your looking at a develop to be released the word stable is a bit of a misnomer to some extent, canonical who are the developers only consider a release after development to be stable basically.
[06:25] <Flannel> Ivoz: that won't get him there.
[06:25] <rere> north , you can se in cd /usr/sbin
[06:25] <BigTaxi> i dont want this to be some alt f4 shit that crashes my computer
[06:25] <North> no, it did not work
[06:25] <Ivoz> North: you need to open up a terminal
[06:26] <rere> Ivoz. ya
[06:26] <BigTaxi> but yes i dared to try
[06:26] <Flannel> BigTaxi: That's not, but it won't accomplish what you're hoping to do.
[06:26] <Flannel> BigTaxi: try 'exit'
[06:26] <rere> north you can see shell command in /usr/bin
[06:26] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: ctl+alt+f7 does not crash things, it brings you out of single user mode, afaik
[06:26] <BigTaxi> nope
[06:26] <BigTaxi> just a blank dollar sign
[06:26] <urlin2u> sidvee, I have used many development though that never broke so it is just best to be prepared for it breaking is I guess the general idea as well.
[06:27] <Ivoz> North: go to your applications and search for terminal
[06:27] <infid> what are the main problems with ubuntu 11.10? any show stoppers?
[06:27] <North> Where can I see shell command in /usr/bin?
[06:27] <sidvee> urlin2u: Oh! Got it. Now tell me what should I download? Daily build or alpha? :-)
[06:27] <Ivoz> North: what ubuntu are you running
[06:27] <rere> north : alt+f2 and type terminal
[06:28] <BigTaxi> exit worked. i have it now. thanks.
[06:28] <rere> Ivoz : where do you come from?
[06:28] <urlin2u> sidvee, the alpha will have a ton of updates, the daily will have those updates already I always use the daily personally.
[06:28] <Ivoz> rere: australia
[06:28] <BigTaxi> though im sure ill have more in a few minutes.
[06:28] <North> it;s 8.04 ubuntu.
[06:28] <Ivoz> anyone know how to stop modules from loading in the kernel?
[06:28] <programmeduser> north: If you have 11.10 just click inside Unity, Dash home button and type Terminal.
[06:28] <rere> Ivoz : yaya I'm Indonesian
[06:28] <programmeduser> Eep nvm.
[06:28] <sidvee> urlin2u: *goes off to download*
[06:29] <Ivoz> North: go to your applications menu, find the terminal application in it
[06:29] <urlin2u> sidvee, cool have a good time. :D
[06:29] <sidvee> urlin2u: Thanks for the sharing the information. Really appreciate it. :-)
[06:29] <rere> North in tab application choose -> accessories -> terminal
[06:30] <urlin2u> sidvee, no problem sorry If I was harsh.
[06:30] <North> it's very coooooool!!!!!
[06:30] <rere> North : yapp
[06:30] <Flannel> BigTaxi: You ran something like `/bin/sh` which was hoping to see a file for a script source, it didn't, so it was just running interactively.
[06:31] <tristan3199> is there an Equilzer for ubuntu??
[06:31] <BigTaxi> so following some instructions, i have to input my ip followed by a slash with some more digits. how do iacquire the correct digits after the slash
[06:31] <sidvee> urlin2u: No. Even if you were, it helped! Am signing off with little-less-noobness. :-P Take care!
[06:31] <rere> tristan3199 : yap
[06:31] <BigTaxi> thanks for explaining.
[06:31] <North> what format does the application have for linux? I mean the extension name.
[06:31] <Flannel> BigTaxi: What instructions are you following?
[06:31] <BigTaxi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Alternate_server_software_.28CLI.29
[06:31] <urlin2u> sidvee, you to.
[06:31] <tristan3199> rere: how would i go about obtaining this??
[06:32] <North> hello? can you tell me the extension name for the application running on Ubuntu????
[06:32] <rere> North : .deb or source coude
[06:32] <sherif_> hey guys where can i find this font  ttf-me-quran
[06:32] <North> .deb?
[06:32] <rere> ya
[06:32] <tristan3199> rere: whats it called
[06:33] <Flannel> Ah, BigTaxi, those examples aren't supposed to be entered into a terminal, but supposed to be put into a text file, which you then run.
[06:33] <North> as you may know, MS occupied S. Korea!!!!!
[06:33] <North> bull xxxit
[06:33] <rere> tristan3199 : u can search in google
[06:33] <North> even I cannot use the banking on internet thru Linux.
[06:33] <BigTaxi> well i'm adjusting the examples for my own info, but that's ok.
[06:34] <BigTaxi> optimal program for doing this?
[06:34] <rere> North : you can use source code to install application
[06:34] <tristan3199> rere: ok thanx.. was hoping to find somebody with one they liked.. to avoid installing something retarded
[06:34] <Guest26871> How can i connect to  box.net using DAV?
[06:34] <North> is there any market for the Linux based application? Like Apple???
[06:34] <urlin2u> sherif_, never have loaded it but I found this wiki.  http://zekr.org/wiki/Installation
[06:34] <Flannel> BigTaxi: text editor such as gedit, or in a terminal, nano.
[06:34] <rere> tristan3199 : oke you're welcome
[06:34] <BigTaxi> affirmative
[06:34] <infid> what are the main problems with ubuntu 11.10? any show stoppers?
[06:35] <rere> North : what do you want?
[06:35] <Flannel> North: This is a technical support channel, if you're looking to talk about Ubuntu and linux, you should head to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[06:35] <sherif_> urlin2u thx bro i will look on it
[06:35] <rere> North : wandahamida
[06:35] <urlin2u> sherif_, no problem.
[06:35] <BigTaxi> well tis gets back to my earlier problem
[06:36] <BigTaxi> my port eth1, wired conenction to my xbox 360, doesnt read. it just flickers connected and disconnected
[06:36] <BigTaxi> this needs to be solved prior to setting up my gateway, i assume
[06:36] <Ivoz> infid: ubuntu 11.10 would not be released if it had show stoppers
[06:36] <Guest26871> How can i connect to  box.net using DAV?
[06:36] <rere> Ivoz : ?
[06:37] <Ivoz> rere: eh?
[06:37] <North> well...
[06:37] <rere> Ivoz : no..
[06:37] <Ivoz> rere:  no what
[06:37] <North> rere: what do you mean?
[06:38] <North> wandahamida?
[06:38] <rere> Ivoz : i just kidding
[06:38] <rere> North : I just kidding
[06:38] <North> maybe you wanna say Thank you in Korean?
[06:38] <BigTaxi> how do i configure and/or diagnose my eth1 port, connected to my xbox 360?
[06:38] <rere> North : yap
[06:38] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Did you complete all of the steps for your gateway? I would say test the gateway with a computer before your xbox to make sure it is working correctly.
[06:38] <North> it should be gamsahamnida.
[06:39] <Ivoz> North: the newer ubuntu has a nice application that is pretty much like a market. It's in 11.04 and 11.10 I think
[06:39] <rere> North : oke terima kasih in bahasa indonesia :-)
[06:39] <BigTaxi> i dont have another computerto test with, really. but, ok, i can manage something. hold on to your butts.
[06:39] <bobo37773> hehe ok
[06:39] <rere> North : oke, terima kasih in bahasa indonesia :-)
[06:39] <Ivoz> North: it's called ubuntu software center
[06:39] <bobo37773> *holding*
[06:39] <North> Sorry
[06:39] <North> I am not familiar with other languages,
[06:39] <rere> North : where do you come from?
[06:39] <North> I feel like Ubuntu is very quick.
[06:40] <North> I am from S. Korea
[06:40] <North> and you, rere?
[06:40] <rere> North " are you korean?
[06:40] <Ivoz> North: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre
[06:40] <North> yes.
[06:40] <North> you too?
[06:40] <North> :)
[06:40] <rere> I'm Indonesian
[06:40] <North> I see
[06:40] <North> do you always use Ubuntu?
[06:41] <rere> Ivoz : apt-get install ?
[06:41] <rere> North : yes
[06:41] <BigTaxi> so working on those gateway instruction... i still dont know what to put after the IP/??
[06:42] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: What part of the tutorial are you stuck on?
[06:42] <Ivoz> rere: that is a command to install software
[06:42] <rere> do you know linux BlankOn , All ?
[06:42] <Sp][nE> what kin of network are you on?
[06:42] <rere> Ivoz : ya
[06:42] <Sp][nE> bigblowhard:
[06:42] <Ivoz> North: try visiting #ubuntu-beginners
[06:42] <North> is ubuntu a family OS with Linux???????
[06:43] <BigTaxi> the first line :x after 'gateway setup' which is where i figured i should start
[06:43] <North> thanks, Ivoz
[06:43] <BigTaxi> i have my IP, but no digits to put after the slash after the IP
[06:43] <rere> North : yap : ubuntu is Debian Brothers
[06:44] <tristan3199> rere: pulse audio has one but wont work correctly.. even the forums are showing unstable in 11.10 have you any suggestions where to find one that works in 11.10??
[06:44] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: I do not see any commands refferenced in that section.
[06:45] <rere> tristan3199 : wait
[06:45] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: You mean this -->     sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0
[06:45] <North> I am back to here.
[06:45] <BigTaxi> i am currently working in gedit text editor, taking lines such as 'sudo ip addr add 192.xxx.x.x/xx dev eth0
[06:45] <North> nobody answered in the ubuntu beginner.
[06:46] <BigTaxi> and yes
[06:46] <BigTaxi> that
[06:46] <bobo37773> North: Be more patient.
[06:46] <sherif_> urlin2u it worked :) ty man ur the best :D
[06:47] <urlin2u> sherif_, cool I was wondering. :D
[06:47] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Gedit? Those are all terminal commands. They are to be done from a terminal
[06:47] <rere> tristan3199 : http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/370784
[06:47] <North> all of you is the programmer?
[06:47] <BigTaxi> ok. i shall do them in a terminal
[06:47] <rere> North : no. I'm student
[06:47] <BigTaxi> however, after the IP there are two numbers that come after a slash
[06:47] <North> what are you studying?
[06:47] <BigTaxi> what are those numbers
[06:48] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Yeah. They are all terminal commands. You probably should start over.
[06:48] <sherif_> urlin2u the font is ok now but still ask me to install the font when i start the program dunno y
[06:48] <BigTaxi> i havent even started..
[06:48] <Ivoz> North: not all the time is everyone around
[06:48] <BigTaxi> i need those numbers
[06:48] <North> what terminal command can show up my IP address?
[06:48] <bobo37773> North: No. Everyone here is not a programmer
[06:48] <rere> North : i'm university student
[06:48] <urlin2u> sherif_, not sure myuself.
[06:48] <gokulnath> hello, does anyone know how to get ubuntu 11.10 like smooth fonts in 11.04 ?
[06:48] <urlin2u> myself*
[06:48] <rere> North : i'm 18 years old
[06:49] <tristan3199> rere: i tried that one already.. got the ppa: then updated.. but the package is never found
[06:49] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: that's a subnet mask
[06:49] <North> I mean your major.
[06:49] <urlin2u> gokulnath, you install the resticted-extras
[06:49] <mellowmatter> Unity 3D is broken on my machine :( I think due to harddisk error. one user account is encrypted, and I cant get into It. No disktool to regain control. hmm... Is there any guide for people who love Ubuntu but ended up in deep shit like this ?
[06:49] <Ivoz> BigTaxi: look it up on wikipiedia
[06:49] <gokulnath> urlin2u, that
[06:49] <gokulnath> that
[06:49] <gokulnath> that's it
[06:49] <tristan3199> rere: says i should type sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-equalizer  but it never finds pulseaudio-equalizer
[06:49] <North> really? how can 18 years old person  be a university student? it's iimpossible in S.Korea
[06:49] <rere> tristan3139 : sorry i'm don't know
[06:50] <Ivoz> North: different countries have different customs
[06:50] <BigTaxi> it cant be the subnet mask
[06:50] <North> I think so
[06:50] <IcemanV9> North, in the terminal, type ifconfig (look for inet addr:)
[06:50] <tristan3199> rere: tried a few others that were simalar.. and there not working either...
[06:50] <rere> North : ya , I'm not lie <
[06:50] <BigTaxi> its only two numbers
[06:50] <tristan3199> rere: Thank You for your attempt... i appriciate the time
[06:50] <North> it's the same as MS terminal?
[06:50] <tristan3199> turns out im on my own again... damn...
[06:51] <IcemanV9> ipconfig (for MS)
[06:51] <gokulnath> urlin2u, I have already installed that
[06:51] <rere> tristan3199 : you're welcome, where do u come from?
[06:51] <DotEXE> o.O
[06:51] <North> I am running Ubuntu.
[06:51] <tristan3199> washington.. by seattle.....
[06:51] <gokulnath> any other config changes ?
[06:51] <North> why did you tell me ipconfig?
[06:51] <rere> tristan3139 : I'm Indonesian, jakarta
[06:51] <IcemanV9> North, i said ifconfig (for Ubuntu)
[06:52] <rere> IcemanV9 : Ifconfig
[06:52] <North> Sorry and thanks
[06:52] <Calinou> ctrl+alt+t > ifconfig
[06:52] <BigTaxi> so... since it cant be the subnet mask, what is it?
[06:52] <Calinou> :P
[06:52] <IcemanV9> and you mentioned if it's same as MS terminal (ipconfig is the command for MS). i'm not trying to confuse you, but answering your questions
[06:52] <tristan3199> rere: thats awsome.. what do you think of it.. never been there.. is it a good place to live?
[06:53] <North> what is your major, rere?
[06:53] <rere> tristan3199 : yap :-) I live in west java.. 'Depok'
[06:53] <infid> on ubuntu, ./configure is saying "configure: error: cannot find the flags to link with Boost thread". Any ideas?
[06:53] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Wait. There is a bug report on this issue you are having.
[06:53] <urlin2u> gokulnath, check appearances-Appearance
[06:53] <urlin2u>     * Go to the Fonts tab   * Under rendering, select Subpixel Smoothing (LCDs)
[06:54] <BigTaxi> i am aware
[06:54] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Did you try the solution in the bug report?
[06:54] <BigTaxi> but that is the killall bit... ive done that several times, with no luck
[06:54] <tristan3199> rere: is it warm there.. its friggin freezing here..
[06:54] <rere> North : many
[06:54] <sherif> urlin2u is applications menu is the same as main menu
[06:54] <urlin2u> gokulnath, try Appearanc    Go to the Fonts tab  Under rendering, select Subpixel Smoothing (LCDs)
[06:55] <rere> tristan3199 : not really, it's about 28 degree
[06:55] <sherif> urlin2u cuz i cant drop some applications to cairo-dock it asks me to get the application from the applications menu
[06:55] <xgt001> folks, finally gnome shell works with catalyst 12.1
[06:55] <rere> North : what are u job?
[06:56] <urlin2u> !pm > ADildeaux>
[06:56] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Yeah, if there solution "killall dnsmasq + disabling ipv6 in nm-applet + reconnecting the wire " does not work maybe try a different network client.
[06:56] <BigTaxi> if the IP address require by this command is xxx.xxx.xx.xx/xx, what are the two numbers at the very end?
[06:56] <BigTaxi> different network client?
[06:56] <gokulnath> urlin2u, will try that, actually my other pc has 11.04, will try later
[06:56] <BigTaxi> as in, different gateway
[06:56] <BigTaxi> ?
[06:56] <urlin2u> gokulnath, cool
[06:56] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: No. Like as opposed to networkmanager
[06:56] <rere> Bigtaxi : subneting?
[06:57] <ADildeaux> Please leave feedback!
[06:57] <North> any toolbar for ubuntu?
[06:57] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: No a different application other than networkmanager gui
[06:57] <North> I mean internet toolbar.
[06:57] <hydrox24> North: what do you mean?
[06:57] <rere> North : for?
[06:57] <hydrox24> like in firefox or chrome?
[06:57] <rere> North : yap
[06:57] <BigTaxi> i have only been using network connections. i cant find a 'network manager'
[06:57] <go8765> hello. help me please with git version of gnome-commander. i download it, but cant understand how start it...
[06:57] <North> yes, hydrox
[06:57] <BigTaxi> and @rere, are you serious? then how do i find those two numbers?
[06:57] <hydrox24> That's relevant to firefox or chrome, rather than ubuntu itself
[06:58] <Shimano> yo
[06:58] <Shimano> whats up guys
[06:58] <rere> shimano : ya
[06:58] <hydrox24> go8765: what have you done so far?
[06:58] <North> then I need to install other webbrowser?
[06:58] <Shimano> help
[06:58] <rere> shimano : o name wa
[06:58] <rere> shimano : o namae wa
[06:58] <hydrox24> North: what browser are you using now?
[06:58] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: hahaha NetworkManager is the name of the application you use to connect to wifi. The gui itself
[06:58] <North> firefox
[06:58] <North> it's default webbrowserr.
[06:58] <rere> North : ya, u can find in option
[06:59] <hydrox24> OK, then go... hold on.
[06:59] <Shimano> how to i join quakenet channel?
[06:59] <hydrox24> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[06:59] <hydrox24> there and eat your heart out
[06:59] <rere> North : ya, u can find in tools -> addson
[06:59] <North> ty hydrox24
[06:59] <BigTaxi> ok... but seriously, there isnt one here...or, i dont know how to find it
[06:59] <hydrox24> and yes, you acn find internet toolbars in the add-ons
[06:59] <BigTaxi> i appreciate your patience, btw
[06:59] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: There is wicd. Not sure if there are instructions on how to set it up though.
[06:59] <rere> hydriox : yap that true
[07:00] <hydrox24> BigTaxi: what are you trying to do again?
[07:00] <rere> did u know kevin mitnik?
[07:00] <BigTaxi> currently, set up a gateway, but there is the additional problem of my computer not realizing an ethernet cord plugged into my 360
[07:01] <go8765> hydrox24: i do git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-commander
[07:01] <go8765> hydrox24: but instructions in readme dont work for me
[07:01] <hydrox24> now type this
[07:01] <zykotick9> BigTaxi: perhaps you need a crossover cable if it's directly connected?
[07:01] <hydrox24> cd gnome-comm *hittab*
[07:01] <hydrox24> so hit the tab key
[07:02] <Shimano> how do i join a different server?
[07:02] <go8765> hydrox24: i am in this directory now)
[07:02] <Shimano> like QuakeNet
[07:02] <hydrox24> ok
[07:02] <BigTaxi> ok, 'it works when connected with the same cable to a different computer, that computer has the same exact settings as the not working one
[07:02] <BigTaxi> ^^^ same wireless configuration
[07:02] <go8765> hydrox24: ./configure dont work for m
[07:02] <cowslammer> when i boot i get dropped into busybox.  does this mean my harddisk is toast?
[07:02] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to install the scan driver for a canon pixmia mp560 and keep getting dependency issues in terminal, is there a way i can just do a check from terminal to see what dependencies i am missing for driver to be installed?
[07:02] <hydrox24> cowslammer: possibly
[07:02] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Is the other computer Ubuntu as well.
[07:02] <BigTaxi> yes sir
[07:02] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: ?
[07:02] <go8765> hydrox24: is said that cant find this file
[07:03] <bobo37773> BigTaxi: Weird.
[07:03] <hydrox24> go8765: hold-on
[07:04] <go8765> hydrox24: what mean - "hold-on" ? it mean - wait a minute?
[07:04] <hydrox24> yes
[07:04] <go8765> ok)
[07:05] <BigTaxi> the working computer's wired connection is eth0, the nonworking is eth1
[07:05] <BigTaxi> while im browsing for differences...
[07:06] <BigTaxi> just an idea, but is it possible that the non-working system is trying to find the cord in eth0, but in actuality it is in eth1? or vice versa?
[07:06] <BigTaxi> because that's the most obvious difference between the two systems
[07:09] <Hetep-AFK> can a person assist with K3B DVD burning?
[07:09] <pip> !ciao
[07:09] <pip> !list
[07:09] <BigTaxi> well, i'm out of ideas
[07:09] <BigTaxi> and i intend to keep typing out this code
[07:12] <BigTaxi> I feel so alone now..
[07:12] <orca_> Hey, same here.
[07:13] <hydrox24> BigTaxi: Code for what?
[07:13] <BigTaxi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Alternate_server_software_.28CLI.29
[07:13] <BigTaxi> i'm currently just trying to figure out what numbers i put in for the subnet.. after my IP
[07:14] <genewitch> BigTaxi: for your ISP or local network
[07:14] <neatbook> how do you only get a name of file from a given the full path?
[07:15] <neatbook> ex. /home/dsd.c
[07:15] <neatbook> how do u only get dsd.c using shell scripts?
[07:15] <BigTaxi> what are you referring to?
[07:15] <llutz_> neatbook: basename <foo>
[07:15] <hydrox24> neatbook: could you use sed to chop off all but the last little bit?
[07:15] <genewitch> BigTaxi: the IP you typed in, does it start with 10, 172, or 192, or none of the above
[07:15] <neatbook> how do i do that?
[07:15] <genewitch> neatbook: man sed
[07:15] <BigTaxi> none
[07:16] <llutz_> neatbook: "basename /home/dsd.c"
[07:16] <genewitch> BigTaxi: then you shouldn't be typing in the subnet unless your ISP assigned you a static address
[07:16] <neatbook> thank you!
[07:16] <genewitch> BigTaxi: does it start with 209/
[07:16] <genewitch> 209*
[07:17] <BigTaxi> but just inputting '...addr add xxx.xxx.xxx.xx dev eth0 does not work
[07:17] <neatbook> what about folder name?
[07:17] <BigTaxi> yes. but i do not know how safe it is to reveal that stuff.
[07:17] <llutz_> neatbook: dirname <foo>
[07:17] <neatbook> ur the best llutz
[07:17] <genewitch> BigTaxi: type ifconfig |grep inet
[07:17] <hydrox24> llutz_: nice trick!
[07:17] <genewitch> BigTaxi: does it say anything about 209 in there or is it 192.168.x.x
[07:18] <BigTaxi> 209 are first 3 digits
[07:18] <genewitch> BigTaxi: it's strange that you're connected directly to the network. you see that next thing where it says broadcast address?
[07:18] <BigTaxi> holy shit
[07:19] <BigTaxi> the code you gave me, grep, has given me much more intense information
[07:19] <BigTaxi> this one says my IP is 192
[07:19] <genewitch> grep is just a way to filter what ifconfig says into 1 line
[07:19] <genewitch> BigTaxi: type ifconfig
[07:19] <genewitch> that shows you every network interface
[07:19] <BigTaxi> confirmed
[07:20] <genewitch> BigTaxi: i missed what exactly you were trying to do, what are you trying to do
[07:21] <BigTaxi> well, i'm trying to get my wireless to bridge through computer A to my 360. it was working a day ago, then all of a sudden it does.t Computer B uses safe exact settings, same cord, and works fine.
[07:21] <BigTaxi> A is just more convenient
[07:21] <BigTaxi> ^^same
[07:21] <BigTaxi> *
[07:21] <genewitch> BigTaxi: wireless as in like cellular modem?
[07:22] <BigTaxi> as in... the wireless connection here at the apartment? i'm not sure. standard issue, i suppose.
[07:22] <genewitch> BigTaxi: use networkmanager. you shouldn't need to add routes by hand - are you on ubuntu desktop or server
[07:22] <BigTaxi> a complication is computer A does not seem to accept the cable from the xbox. it constantly connects and disconnects.
[07:22] <genewitch> BigTaxi: autonegotiation failing
[07:23] <BigTaxi> ok... this is going to sound moronic, but there honestly is no program called network manager. i have 'network' in settings, and 'network connections'
[07:23] <genewitch> BigTaxi: you can fix that with some commands i don't remember in a command line. but you can bridge (connection sharing) with the little network manager icon on the ubuntu desktop
[07:23] <tristan3199> anyone know off hand how to make irssi connect to a channel automatically.. it already connects to irc.freenode.net
[07:23] <hydrox24> tristan3199: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/irssi
[07:23] <neatbook> I am trying to read files in a directory and conver their names to all capital, but my shell script changes directory names to capital too! any advice??
[07:24] <tristan3199> thanks hydro
[07:24] <hydrox24> tristan3199: /server add -auto -network Freenode irc.freenode.net
[07:24] <hydrox24> more specifically
[07:24] <besogon> people how to get list of installed codecs?
[07:24] <neatbook> like change /home/foo to read all files in foo directory
[07:24] <tristan3199> hydrox24: thank you
[07:24] <neatbook> but my probram changes /HOME/FOO
[07:25] <llutz_> tristan3199: in .irssi/config: { name = "#ubuntu"; chatnet = "freenode"; autojoin = "yes"; }
[07:25] <paulus68> llutz_: the rsnapshot is working correctly in combination with cron
[07:25] <BigTaxi> so any advice on the auto negotiation?
[07:25] <llutz_> paulus68: but still not from commandline, started manually?
[07:25] <zerlord> Hello! I've a problem with my ubuntu system..when I want to aptitude -upgrade it always says: Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver
[07:26] <tristan3199> llutz_: sweet.. thats excatly what i was lookin to find..
[07:26] <paulus68> llutz_: no it's working fully automated
[07:26] <llutz_> paulus68: thats how it should work, but it still should do the job if you start it manually (for testing)
[07:26] <genewitch> zerlord: apt-get update first?
[07:27] <zerlord> sorry it cut something...when I try to aptitude -upgrade
[07:27] <North> how can I open the task manager?
[07:27] <llutz_> paulus68: nvm, nice to hear it works after all
[07:27] <paulus68> llutz_: that's working also
[07:27] <goddard> North: type "top"
[07:27] <zerlord> yea I did aptitude -update first
[07:27] <North> thanks
[07:27] <genewitch> zerlord: why aptitude
[07:27] <llutz_> paulus68: oh, do you know why it failed before?
[07:27] <genewitch> zerlord: try apt-get upgrade
[07:28] <neatbook> I am trying to read files in a directory and conver their names to all capital, but my shell script changes directory names to capital too! any advice??
[07:28] <zerlord> hmm also when I'm using apitude?
[07:28] <Ben64> neatbook: pastebin script and maybe someone could help
[07:28] <paulus68> llutz_: well I think it was something in the config file, I copied the complete original config file into the old one and just adapted the things there and since then it's working correctly
[07:29] <paulus68> llutz_: and the rsnapshot diff enabeling might have done the trick to
[07:29] <North> how can I stop the command while the command "top" is running?
[07:29] <llutz_> paulus68: hmm, i thought we checked the conf several times... anyways
[07:29] <neatbook> north: cnt+z
[07:30] <zerlord> so when I want to use aptitude to update my system I have at first to type apt-get update and then aptitude upgrade?
[07:30] <zykotick9> zerlord: there is no - BTW.  "aptitude update"
[07:31] <North> then can I stop the specific program by force in the shell command?
[07:31] <Ben64> North: stop or kill?
[07:31] <North> kill
[07:31] <BigTaxi> genewitch: ethtool says there is autonegotiation, and it is supported, etc.
[07:31] <Ben64> North: kill -9 <pid>
[07:31] <bobo37773> zerlord: apt-get and aptitude are 2 different things
[07:31] <zykotick9> North: "kill PID#" or to kill all the instances of a program "killall PROGRAMNAME"
[07:32] <zykotick9> Ben64: DON'T recommend -9, it's not a good idea (unless the regular method fails, first)
[07:32] <Ben64> zykotick9: but i like -9 :(
[07:32] <zerlord> yea but they are both packetmanagers right? I thought aptitude is more "smart" in solving dependencies
[07:32] <zykotick9> !wfm > Ben64
[07:32] <genewitch> BigTaxi: right but it's failing, probably the xbox's fault. google turn off autonegotiation ubuntu eth
[07:32] <Ben64> zykotick9: whats wrong with -9
[07:32] <hydrox24> zerlord: just stick with apt-get until you have issues
[07:32] <llutz_> zerlord: they are just 2 different frontends to apt
[07:32] <bobo37773> zerlord: I prefer aptitude over apt-get
[07:32] <prince_jammys> Ben64: too brutal.
[07:32] <zykotick9> Ben64: i don't feel like explaining it...
[07:33] <hydrox24> zerlord: yeh that's true too
[07:33] <lonejack> hi, is there an appli that manages the number of kernel to mantain? That is, left on the HD only the 3-4 kernel for example...
[07:33] <prince_jammys> Ben64: doesn't let program cleanup after itself.
[07:33] <zerlord> okey! so I at first will type apt-get upgrade and then aptitude update?!
[07:33] <zykotick9> lonejack: no, just uninstall the ones you don't want
[07:33] <popey> zykotick9: no
[07:33] <popey> oops
[07:33] <hydrox24> zerlord: no,  apt-get update comes first
[07:33] <Ben64> prince_jammys: hey he asked how to kill something
[07:33] <popey> zerlord: no, use apt-get or aptitude, you don't mix them
[07:34] <prince_jammys> Ben64: well, i was answering your -9 question.
[07:34] <North> when i typed "k", "PID to kill:" pops up. and then I typed firefox.
[07:34] <North> but failed.
[07:34] <popey> zerlord: you can mix them but there's not a lot of point
[07:34] <zykotick9> zerlord: "aptitude update" then "aptitude safe-upgrade" would be one method
[07:34] <hydrox24> zerlord: yeh, don't mix em
[07:34] <North> why?
[07:34] <zerlord> ah yea sorry I made a mistake
[07:34] <hydrox24> North: PID is the number, not the name of the process
[07:34] <North> I see
[07:34] <llutz_> Ben64: always be nice first and try using kill without "-9". if that fails, stop being nice...
[07:34] <zerlord> ok I'll try it right now ;)
[07:34] <neatbook> what is extention .tex??
[07:34] <North> I could not use -9
[07:34] <Ben64> North: you could do "kill `pidof firefox`"
[07:34] <popey> neatbook: latex
[07:35] <Ben64> North: it finds the pid for you
[07:35] <hydrox24> Ben64: he is using it inside od top
[07:35] <llutz_> North: pkill firefox
[07:35] <valar> hi guys
[07:35] <valar> i have aproblem here
[07:35] <[[thufir]]> kill -9 -1
[07:35] <neatbook> What is latex file?
[07:35] <prince_jammys> !latex | neatbook
[07:36] <neatbook> thanks
[07:36] <North> what should I type next to "Kill PID 17997 with signal[15]:"
[07:36] <North> ?
[07:36] <neatbook> linux community is really friendly
[07:36] <llutz_> North: enter
[07:36] <Ben64> [[thufir]]: don't suggest things like that
[07:36] <valar> when i try to shut down  all taht happens is that just log out
[07:36] <valar> and get this message plymouth command failed mountall
[07:36] <[[thufir]]> oh, it's all fun and games until...well. ;)
[07:36] <zerlord> Zykotick9: but as I told you..when I do aptitude safe-upgrade then it just says: Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found. Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver.
[07:36] <North> llutz: Perfect!!
[07:36] <llutz_> [[thufir]]: until idiots like you come in
[07:37] <[[thufir]]> oh boy
[07:37] <[[thufir]]> did I actually write "joe, do this..."?  no.
[07:37] <[[thufir]]> it was a joke.
[07:37] <zykotick9> zerlord: are you trying to upgrade versions?  if so, DO NOT, use aptitude!  even debian recommends apt-get for upgrading versions.
[07:37] <popey> llutz_ / [[thufir]] take it elsewhere please
[07:37] <BigTaxi> genewitch: well the autoneg is off
[07:38] <BigTaxi> but im not seeing where to go from here
[07:38] <Ben64> this is not a joke channel, its a support channel. don't put commands in here that if run, can cause harm
[07:38] <BigTaxi> http://www.linuxscrew.com/2008/11/20/faq-how-to-change-duplex-andor-auto-negotiation-nic-settings-in-linux/
[07:38] <zykotick9> zerlord: in ubuntu you are probably better off using apt-get
[07:39] <karthick87> I am getting an error in PXE boot "Missing parameter in Configuration file. Keyword: nfsroot=172.29.32.9:/srv/tftpboot/10.10x86desktop" How to resolve this error?
[07:39] <valar> there is no hibernate or other button except shut down anyone knows what was wrong?
[07:40] <zykotick9> valar: are you using unity/gnome or something else?
[07:40] <zerlord> zykotick9: actually I don't know just want to update the software on the system...
[07:41] <zykotick9> zerlord: use the tool(s) that Ubuntu recommends then, apt-get
[07:41] <com4> I'm trying to install 11.10 and if it boots into graphical mode i get a weird traceback sptting out a bunch of stuff about nouveau. Is 11.10 not compatibale with the new nvidia stuff or something?
[07:41] <zerlord> ok thank you
[07:41] <Ben64> com4: what video card do you have
[07:41] <valar> unity
[07:41] <com4> nvidia 580m
[07:42] <Ben64> com4: probably would have to use the proprietary driver then
[07:42] <com4> Ben64: and i suppose that would mean compiling it into the live cd and reburning it?
[07:42] <valar> zykotick9:unity
[07:42] <neatbook> what are core files?
[07:42] <Ben64> com4: you could install using the alternate cd, then install the nvidia driver once it's installed
[07:42] <neatbook> *.o ??
[07:43] <d__> easiest way to turn second monitor on/off?  I want to script this somehow
[07:43] <com4> Ben64: the alt cd has missing packages everytime I try that
[07:43] <d__> I can do in in system settings/display
[07:44] <Ben64> com4: not sure what you mean, the alternate cd has more packages on the cd than the livecd version
[07:44] <com4> Ben64: i'm with you. it usually chokes when trying to install xorg-video-ati saying the package is missing. when i browse /cdrom -- yeah, it's not there
[07:45] <Ben64> com4: you might want to verify your disc image is correct
[07:45] <almoxarife> the 'alternate' install is a more complete install, it says so in the docs, and its also better for quirky installs, tried once and never gone back to the 'standard' since
[07:45] <ADildeaux> feedback please!
[07:45] <com4> Ben64: That didn't work. Infact it couldn't find the cdrom. I had to switch to another term and mount it by hand
[07:46] <ch__> ciao
[07:46] <Andy80> hi
[07:46] <bobo37773> Andy80: hey
[07:46] <com4> Ben64: I'm burning the alt DVD right now, and have disassembled my usb cdrom drive in hopes that something will work. I was just wondering what the deal with the nvidia driver was
[07:47] <popey> d__: xrandr if you want to script screen manipulation
[07:47] <com4> man i hope it works :)
[07:48] <bobo37773> popey: Definitely. xrandr is the way to go
[07:48] <Andy80> how do I manually set a screen resolution with xrandr if the display is not correctly detected? I only get this output http://pastebin.com/ByRgUpgR (please NOTE: I probably have this problem because I'm using a VGA-switch, but my display and my videocard work normally if connected directly)
[07:49] <infid> i ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gearman-developers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update" but for some reason the ppa isn't being added to /etc/apt/sources.list. Any ideas?
[07:49] <popey> infid: it wont be, it will be added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[07:49] <bobo37773> Andy80: xrandr --output default --mode 1440x900   <--- or whatever resolution
[07:49] <popey> infid: a file will be added in that directory
[07:50] <zykotick9> infid: no PPAs get added to sources.list - check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ i believe
[07:50] <infid> popey: ok but also when i do sudo apt-cache show gearman, it's still showing the older version
[07:50] <bobo37773> Andy80: What do you mean by not correctly detected?
[07:51] <aknewhope> Hello
[07:52] <bobo37773> aknewhope: Hey
[07:52] <popey> infid: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:52] <hydrox24> aknewhope: hi!
[07:52] <Andy80> bobo37773: look the pastebin.com link I provided... I've connected a VGA-switch between the display and the videocard. If I boot my PC in this mode the screen is not detected. If I remove the VGA switch and boot normally, THEN connect the switch between the display and videocard, it works.
[07:52] <infid> popey: 10.04
[07:52] <hydrox24> aknewhope: what do you nned help with?
[07:52] <popey> Andy80: blame the switch
[07:53] <Andy80> popey: I know.... but it must work. It works if you FIRST boot the PC normally, then you connect the switch, so I'd like to force the resolution to 1680x1050 since I know that works even with the switch connected
[07:54] <popey> Andy80: probably easiest to craft an xorg.conf which specifies the necessary modelines and resolutions
[07:54] <bobo37773> Andy80:     xrandr -s 1680x1050      ?
[07:54] <Andy80> popey: exactly..... but before messing the xorg.conf I'd like to test the settings with xrandr :P
[07:54] <Andy80> bobo37773: let me try...
[07:55] <Andy80> bobo37773: andrea@centurion:~$ xrandr -s 1680x1050
[07:55] <Andy80> Size 1680x1050 not found in available modes
[07:55] <popey> Andy80: you can add modes to xrandr manually
[07:55] <Andy80> I need to add a new section first, but I really don't remember all the syntax...
[07:55] <popey> Andy80: xorg --help
[07:55] <popey> um
[07:55] <popey> Andy80: xrandr --help
[07:56] <Andy80> popey: I was giving a look to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but it only says: xrandr --addmode S-video ... not a good example :P
[07:56] <hydrox24> Andy80: do you need to use the cvt command?
[07:56] <popey> Andy80: you need newmode first
[07:56] <Andy80> hydrox24: cvt?
[07:57] <popey> Andy80: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817373/ <- like that
[07:57] <bobo37773> Andy80: xrandr --newmode "1680x1050"   ?
[07:57] <Andy80> popey: let me try that example... it should work
[07:57] <popey> Andy80: i used gtf to get the modeline
[07:57] <bobo37773> Andy80: Look at the man page. There are examples. -->    man xrandr
[07:58] <Andy80> popey: no, it doesn't.... xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[07:58] <popey> what did you do Andy80 ?
[07:59] <Andy80> popey: I tried the commands you copy-pasted on paste.ubuntu....
[07:59] <popey> Andy80: that was just an example
[07:59] <popey> use your own resolution and modeline
[08:01] <Andy80> popey: you're right, but I don't know all values.... for example: xrandr --newmode "1280x720_60.00"  74.48  1280 1336 1472 1664  720 721 724 746  -HSync +Vsync - what is that 74.48?
[08:02] <North> Hello>?
[08:02] <bobo37773> Andy80: Use cvt
[08:02] <North> While installing the Skype, i got the message that Dependency is not satisfiable!!!!!
[08:03] <North> what can I do?
[08:03] <_godhelpme> !adduser
[08:04] <North>  While installing the Skype, i got the message that Dependency is not satisfiable!!!!!
[08:04] <Andy80> bobo37773: like this http://pastebin.com/pQXmJaJQ ?
[08:04] <bobo37773> Andy80: Yeah. Does that modeline work?
[08:04] <Andy80> let me try :)
[08:04] <North>  While installing the Skype, i got the message that Dependency is not satisfiable!!!!!
[08:05] <_godhelpme> !kms
[08:05] <North> ?
[08:05] <popey> Andy80: as I said... use gtf to generate the modeline
[08:05] <Andy80> bobo37773: I still get xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[08:05] <besogon> people how to catch audio with ffmpeg I need cathcing from "screen"
[08:05] <yeehaw_> North: Please don't spam.
[08:07] <Andy80> popey, bobo37773 both the videomode generated by cvt or gft fail.
[08:07] <bobo37773> Andy80: In xrandr or in Xorg.conf?
[08:07] <Andy80> let me try with a lower resolution.... (now I'm in 1024x768, let me try 1280x....)
[08:08] <_godhelpme> !addgroup
[08:08] <Andy80> bobo37773: in xrandr
 can you help me?
[08:08] <bobo37773> Andy80: You may end up needing to mess with Xorg.conf anyways...
[08:09] <Andy80> bobo37773, popey for example the videomode generated by gtf gives me this error http://pastebin.com/DKRDZrQL
[08:09] <bobo37773> North: What dependencies are you missing?
[08:09] <North> while installing the skype, it poped up.
[08:09] <Andy80> bobo37773: I know... I'll change xorg.conf, but it's useless if xrandr doesn't work. I first need to figure out wich is the correct xrandr resolution....
[08:09] <owenll> North: are you on 32 or 64 bit? what version of ubuntu? how are you trying to install?
[08:10] <zykotick9> _godhelpme: you can use "/msg ubottu FACTOID" to get factoids privately
[08:10] <North> Yes, owenll
[08:10] <bobo37773> Andy80: Yeah. That is a pretty good point. It is late here
[08:10] <North> and I tried to install skype-ubuntu_2.2.0.35-1_i386
[08:10] <bobo37773> North: Did you get it from software center or from the web?
[08:10] <akpk> My Bluetooth is not working @ Ubuntu 11.10
[08:11] <bobo37773> akpk: Did you try -->   rfkill list
[08:12] <North> I got it from Skype web
[08:13] <bobo37773> North: Did you look in the software center first?
 : No,What is that ??
[08:13] <North> where is the software center?
[08:13] <bobo37773> akpk: Terminal command to see if it is blocked
[08:14] <vincent> Vin100|work
[08:14] <bobo37773> akpk: Also make sure bluetooth package is installed. I think it is called "bluez" or something
[08:15] <zykotick9> North: skype isn't in ubuntu repos, so SoftwareCenter won't help.
[08:15] <North> Haha
[08:15] <North> then how can I install it successfullty?
[08:15] <bobo37773> North: Install the dependencies yourself.
[08:15] <North> where can I have the dependencies?
[08:16] <Andy80> bobo37773, popey I need to go now, but I'll try to fix this later :(
[08:16] <zykotick9> !skype | North
[08:16] <neatbook> how come ubuntu has slow wi-fi connection?
[08:16] <North> thnkas
[08:16] <neatbook> bad driver??
[08:17] <bobo37773> North: Welcome to Ubuntu.
[08:17] <bobo37773> Later everyone take care
[08:17] <almoxarife> neatbook: you can compare on the same machine?
[08:18] <neatbook> yea
[08:18] <neatbook> its so much slower
[08:18] <rozpierdalator> hi
[08:20] <yogg> Hi
[08:20] <yogg> What is the worst that can happen if i make an fsck.ext2 on an read only mounted ext2 Filesystem? fsck -> reboot -> everything fine? Or have i overseen something?
[08:20] <_godhelpme> zykotick9; thanks i didn't know that
[08:20] <PaulaSaraayBilly> HellOoOoO:$
[08:22] <_godhelpme> how do i find out my kernel version
[08:22] <yogg> uname -a
 : rfkill list hci0: Bluetooth
[08:23] <akpk> 	Soft blocked: yes
[08:23] <akpk> 	Hard blocked: no
[08:23] <neatbook> can anyone debug my shell script?
[08:24] <akpk>  <bobo37773>  : arun@AKPK:~$ rfkill list
[08:24] <akpk> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[08:24] <akpk> 	Soft blocked: no
[08:24] <akpk> 	Hard blocked: no
[08:24] <akpk> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[08:24] <akpk> 	Soft blocked: yes
[08:24] <akpk> 	Hard blocked: no
[08:24] <akpk> 2: asus-wlan: Wireless LAN
[08:24] <FloodBot1> akpk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:24] <almoxarife> neatbook: paste it
[08:24] <neatbook> too long lol
[08:24] <akpk> Hello
[08:24] <neatbook> like 80 lines
[08:24] <_godhelpme> yogg: thanks
[08:25] <owenll> neatbook: on pastebin
[08:25] <neatbook> 300 wc
[08:25] <neatbook> my comp def doesnt like ubuntu
[08:25] <neatbook> my whole computer is slowing down
[08:25] <almoxarife> neatbook: paste it , yes, on pastebin
[08:26] <neatbook> im not sure how to use pastebin
[08:26] <almoxarife> neatbook: perhaps its some script?
[08:26] <neatbook> yea its a shell script
[08:27] <almoxarife> neatbook: ic, so the question about help on script was rhetorical
[08:28] <almoxarife> neatbook: perhaps its some script? that is slowing the comp down
[08:28] <neatbook> haha
[08:28] <neatbook> just trying to figure out if i can change a file name to cap without capitalizing the whole path including the directory
[08:29] <neatbook> i dont think my 200 wc script can slow down my machine lol
[08:29] <almoxarife> neatbook: i believe #linux loves script help
[08:29] <neatbook> it takes forever to load youtube video
[08:30] <neatbook> invite only
[08:31] <zykotick9> !register > neatbook
[08:34] <yogg> Hmm have teted it now. fsck (on ro fs) -> reboot -> no problems.
[08:34] <yogg> But I am not sure if this never would made any problems
[08:37] <callaghan> Hi, what's the equivalent of gconftool on xfce? I found xfce4-settings-manager, but, as far as I can tell, it is a GUI-only program. I want to change some settings via bash scripts. Thanks.
[08:39] <callaghan> Sorry, meant to write xfce4-settings-editor, not xfce4-settings-manager...
[08:40] <_godhelpme> what ever happend to su
[08:41] <bkerensa> _godhelpme: su still works
[08:42] <ServerSage> callaghan: I'm not sure there is one, you may need to just tweak ~/.config/xfce4.
[08:42] <_godhelpme> bkerensa: brain fart sorry
[08:42] <faLUCE> hi. I need to automatically copy data from a text file to a GUI. Is there a program for doing that?
[08:43] <callaghan> ServerSage, that's what I was looking for, thank you
[08:44] <ServerSage> callaghan: Welcome.
[08:44] <ServerSage> faLUCE: Huh?  Care to elaborate?
[08:44] <faLUCE> ServerSage: too many data
[08:46] <ServerSage> faLUCE: Well, if you want help you're going to have to explain what it is you want to do.
[08:46] <_godhelpme> if i create a mask of 777 in my smb.conf, is that permission only good for the root of the share then can i mkdir with 640
[08:46] <Powl> hi
[08:46] <Powl> Can anyone tell me how to use playonlinux scripts?
[08:48] <Powl> is anybody here
[08:48] <pp7__> no
[08:48] <aBound> We aren't here. :P
[08:49] <ServerSage> Powl: You should probably go to the playonlinux room if you want info on it.
[08:49] <ServerSage> Powl: What specifically are you trying to run?
[08:50] <aBound> Powl, There's an IRC channel for PlayOnLinux.
[08:50] <aBound> #playonlinux
[08:50] <debaino> I have a computer with 256mb memory but shows it has 116mb of memory,what could be the problem?.
[08:51] <yogg> debaino: shared memory with grafic card?
[08:51] <yogg> *graphic
[08:51] <debaino> yogg:Yes it has a grpahics card.
[08:51] <zekurtyang> hello
[08:52] <yogg> debaino: yes and is it on board? or an extra card?
[08:52] <ServerSage> I just died a little inside.
[08:53] <debaino> yogg:The thing is,when the same com[puter is running windows,its considerably faster and slower on ubuntu.
[08:53] <Tankado> Hello, if i want to run ubuntu alongside my windows installation i see i can use Wubi (if i get it right as oppose to having two partitions) , what is the cons for doing that? is that going to be slow like a virtual machine kind of application?
[08:53] <yogg> debaino: so it has on windows 256 mb of aram and in ubuntu only 116mb?
[08:54] <aBound> Tankado, Wubi has some known issues you might want to review.
[08:54] <neatbook> does ubuntu have a task manager where i can check my memory use?
[08:55] <yogg> neatbook: top,  free -m
[08:55] <aBound> Tankado, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Troubleshooting
[08:55] <aBound> Wubi can corrupt the NTFS file system.
[08:55] <debaino> yogg:I haven't looked at the memory situation on windows but what i can tell is that when running ubuntu,the computer is way slower.Any reason why this is so?.
[08:56] <Tankado> Well i will use the offical version then and use two partitions as i used in the past
[08:56] <ServerSage> debaino: How are you gauging speed?  Are the graphics slower?  Does it hang?  What?
[08:56] <neatbook> ubuntu is so slow on my comp wtf....
[08:56] <aBound> Tankado, Better off using the real Ubuntu ISO (in my opinion).
[08:57] <Tankado> ok, thanks aBound.
[08:57] <ServerSage> neatbook: I'll as you too, how are you gauging speed?
[08:58] <aBound> Tankado, Welcome.
[08:58] <debaino> ServerSage:I am repairing 2 compuetrs both with 256 mb memory.On one i install ubuntu and the other windows xp.I notice that ubuntu is slower by noting the amount of time it takes to finish a task like launching programs,etc.
[08:58] <yogg> debaino: what ubuntu version? what windows version? windows 3.11 will be much faster than ubuntu 11.10 on such hardware. (i think). Is a GUI installed (Gnome, KDE, ...) what does "top" say?.    Way slower is not a good description :D
[08:59] <debaino> Anyone can see it.
[08:59] <debaino> yogg:I am using Gnome.
[08:59] <aBound> yogg, Windows XP will be much faster than a newer version of Ubuntu.
[08:59] <aBound> Seeing as Windows XP has less code written for it.
[08:59] <debaino> aBound:Why?
[08:59] <aBound> Ubuntu 11.10 uses a newer kernel more drivers, more features etc...
[09:00] <ServerSage> debaino: Umm, because it's smaller?  Older?  Designed for ancient hardware?
[09:00] <aBound> More packages...
[09:00] <aBound> Oops, I think I was referring to debaino
[09:00] <aBound> lol
[09:00] <ServerSage> debaino: How much slower are we talking?
[09:00] <XeeNa> Anyone knows why a fresh install - after updating - wont boot and just ends up with busybox?
[09:00] <aBound> debaino, It's like for example trying to install Win7 onto 256MB will more or less put the system to a crawl.
[09:01] <aBound> The RAM speed is probably running at 133Mhz.
[09:01] <ikonia> XeeNa: disks not being setup correctly
[09:01] <ikonia> XeeNa: very common cause
[09:01] <zykotick9> aBound: you are aware that Ubuntu has a 1GB RAM requirement right?  If you want something fast, check out lubuntu.
[09:02] <aBound> Newer OS's tend to require more RAM.
[09:02] <aBound> zykotick9, Yes I am aware: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[09:02] <debaino> ServerSage:The computer freezes momentarily when opening firefox
[09:02] <XeeNa> ikonia: then what do I do different if I reinstall?
[09:02] <zykotick9> aBound: sorry, wrong person ;)
[09:02] <aBound> hehe
[09:02] <ikonia> XeeNa: just pay attention in the disk partitioning section
[09:02] <aBound> No problem I did the same thing zykotick9
[09:02] <zykotick9> debaino: you are aware that Ubuntu has a 1GB RAM requirement right?  If you want something fast, check out lubuntu.
[09:02] <debaino> aBound:Is there a version of ubuntu that is most suitable for computers with not more than 512mb of ram?.
[09:02] <ServerSage> debaino: As zykotick9 just pominter out, you are running an OS that requires 1GB on a system with 256mb.
[09:03] <ServerSage> Wow, pointed out.  Fingers went all psycho there.
[09:03] <XeeNa> ikonia: just did run the automatic install..
[09:03] <aBound> debaino, You could try Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[09:03] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | debaino
[09:03] <aBound> debaino, Or what Jordan_U implied Lubuntu.
[09:04] <debaino> ubottu,aBound:I am looking at it now,thanks.
[09:04] <aBound> debaino, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[09:05] <aBound> :P
[09:05] <debaino> Thanks a lot guys,that rally helped.
[09:06] <debaino> *really
[09:06] <aBound> debaino, There's also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[09:06] <maman3> hi
[09:07] <aBound> hi
[09:07] <ServerSage> Howdy!
[09:08] <aBound> Howdy do.
[09:09] <ServerSage> Guess he didn't really want to talk to us.
[09:09] <aBound> Seems like it.
[09:09] <aBound> He perished away.
[09:09] <akpk> Bluetooth is not working @ Ubuntu 11.10
[09:09] <ServerSage> Makes me sad.
[09:10] <akpk> Bluetooth is not working @ Ubuntu 11.10
[09:11] <ServerSage> akpk: Yup, we heard you the first time.  :)
[09:11] <aBound> akpk, No reason to double post. :P
[09:11] <llutz_> !work | akpk
[09:11] <bkerensa> akpk: It works fine for me. What problem are you encountering?
[09:11] <akpk> Sorry all
[09:11] <ServerSage> ubottu is so witty.  :)  I want a robot that witty running around my house.
  : I can t switch it On..
[09:12] <ServerSage> akpk: Have you ventured into any of the logs yet?
 : No,
[09:14] <aBound> akpk, Ever checked the bluetooth settings in System Settings?
[09:15] <nepolean> how to download a file by ftp from command line ?
 : Yes,
[09:15] <akpk> I cheked,I cud not select ON button.
[09:15] <ServerSage> nepolean: ftp remote.host.com
[09:16] <ServerSage> akpk: What make/model computer you using?
[09:16] <akpk> Asus
[09:16] <akpk> ServerSage> :
[09:16] <akpk> ServerSage>
[09:16] <akpk> Asus
[09:16] <aBound> akpk, Try typing: bluetooth directly into the top search box of Software Center.
[09:17] <pwork> Hello, I upgrade my work laptop from natty to oneiric 64b, but I can't get into X anymore : I uninstalled ATI drivers completely and reinstalled them, but I can't get a successfull startx in single user mode
[09:17] <soa2ii> Hi. I'm trying to authenticate against our ldap server. I did changes to my pam settings as described in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LDAP_Client_Authentifizierung (german) but I keep getting  pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "uid=krause,ou=Users,dc=ls7,dc=cs,dc=tu-dortmund,dc=de" (Invalid credentials). Any ideas?
[09:17] <pwork> WW fglrx: No matching device .., but no errors
[09:18] <pwork> "xinit: Connection to server lost" It dies on it
[09:18] <nepolean> ServerSage ya. how to download the file ?
 : Everything installed...
[09:18] <nepolean> ServerSage iam using putty . many times it says network error. software caused connection abort
[09:18] <edheldil> Hi, does anybody know of a good app for managing db of mostly networked devices? Something like RackMonkey, but more powerful. RM is dead :(
[09:19] <ServerSage> nepolean: ls to get list of files on remote side, get filename to get the file called filename.
[09:19] <JoshR1> Hi there, I was attempting to install MySQL and it failed now when I can't get the package to remove so that it doesn't attempt to reinstall the mysql package when I run apt-get
[09:19] <pwork> If you know somme diagnose commands to get logs. I saw that there is a problem with the dbus socket, even if I did the symlinks trick
[09:19] <valar> hi everyone i have  problem with plymouth command anyone can help ?? the problem is :when i try to shut down from the shutdown button just log out and something new came out when i try to remove programms proccess stops and get an error about the plymouth again
[09:20] <aBound> akpk, Tried the bluetooth manager utility?
[09:20] <Hetep> is a terminal controlled email client available for Linux?
[09:20] <nepolean> ServerSage iam using putty . many times it says network error. software caused connection abort
[09:20] <zykotick9> Hetep: mutt is an excellent terminal email client
[09:20] <nepolean> ServerSage ya. how to download the file ?
[09:20] <ServerSage> nepolean: No need to double post.
 : Ya,I tried Bluetooth Manager utility...
[09:21] <nepolean> ServerSage i was disconnected. thats y
[09:21] <ServerSage> nepolean: ls to get list of files on remote side, get filename to get the file called filename.
[09:21] <ServerSage> Sigh.
[09:22] <aBound> akpk, I'm not familiar with bluetooth but have you tried plugging in any devices within the USB port.
 : It is internal Bluetooth of my laptop
[09:23] <valar> i get this message plymouth command failed mountall and i can't unistall any programm i'm using gnome
[09:23] <ServerSage> napoleon needs a new internet connection.  :)
[09:23] <Hetep> is a potential for hosting an email server available for Linux?
[09:24] <varikonniemi> is ubuntu set by default to not boot if there is a degraded MDADM RAID present? with one it just stops at some busybox prompt
[09:25] <edheldil> varikonniemi:  yes, or maybe it is now selectable
[09:25] <JoshR1> mysql failed to install and now I can't get it out of apt-get
[09:25] <varikonniemi> good, then there is no anomaly. How can i set to ignore it?
[09:25] <aBound> akpk, Open a terminal and type hcitool inq
[09:26] <edheldil> varikonniemi:  something like no-degraded onkernel prompt, but look it up
[09:26] <milligan> I've got a machine here where top/uptime reports the average load to be ~26.00 ... However, looking at the process list in top, there is nothing hogging CPU or memory. Any ideas why the load average might be so high ?
[09:26] <flowerpot> Hetep, there are mailservers available on Linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers
[09:27] <ServerSage> nepolean: You seem to have some serious connection issues.
[09:27] <icqn> I have installed python3 and do not have a module cairo there, any ideas?
[09:27] <nepolean> what is the command for wget ftp:// file    with username and password ?
[09:27] <nepolean> ServerSage ya
[09:27] <edheldil> milligan:  processes are waiting for a device, perhaps? Slow disk, swap, ...
[09:27] <aBound> icqn, Possibly the #python channel might be of more help to you. :P
[09:28] <edheldil> nepolean:  others have already replied in #linux
[09:28] <nepolean> i cant man
[09:28] <nepolean> i need exact comand
[09:28] <edheldil> grrr
 : Yes,What to check ??     http://paste.ubuntu.com/817424/
[09:29] <ServerSage> nepolean: Cross posting is bad.  Anyway, you can use "wget ftp://username:password@ftp.host.com/path/to/filename"
[09:29] <edheldil> nepolean:  ... and if you stayed connected for more than 2 secs, you would have seen it
[09:29] <aBound> akpk, You could try typing: hcitool scan && hcitool inq
[09:30] <ServerSage> nepolean: If you can't use man, you can always google "man wget".  Not saying you can't ask here, just an option.  And you should probably get your connection fixed before asking for help.  It's frustrating to try and keep up with your drops and connects.
[09:30] <nepolean> thx!
[09:30] <milligan> edheldil, any way to check? The machine acts as a mail relay amongst other, and it is indeed swapping .. but it's sitting stable at "144k used" on the swap..
[09:30] <aBound> If not just: hcitool scan to see if it can find any bluetooth devices.
[09:30] <nepolean> ServerSage ya. thx
[09:30] <nepolean> !
[09:31] <MaDrense> hi all
[09:31] <MaDrense> anyone had "cannot fork()" issues with 11.10 ?
[09:32] <edheldil> milligan:  ps axlw or something like that
 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/817427/
[09:33] <aBound> akpk, Looks like my terminal mines said the same thing.
 :
[09:33] <akpk> WhT TO DO NEXT ?
[09:34] <JoshR1> how can I get apt-get to stop trying to reinstall mysql-server ?
[09:35] <aBound> akpk, Try this command: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[09:35] <zykotick9> JoshR1: "sudo apt-get -f install" is a general fix attempt, you might have to finish mysql-server install, then remove it.
[09:36] <JoshR1> It won't finish the install because it keeps getting a job failed to start error
[09:36] <_NiC> Hetep, I run my mailfilters on ubuntu.
[09:36] <addy989> hello all
[09:36] <Hetep> _NiC: can you explain?
[09:37] <_NiC> Hetep, explain what exactly?
[09:37] <addy989> i m using ubuntu  and not abel to run internet
[09:37] <aBound> akpk, Searching around seems like a common problem with 11.10.
[09:37] <addy989> via ethernet cabl
[09:37] <JoshR1> zykotick9 I can't get it to finish the install due to a "Job failed to start" error.
[09:37] <Hetep> well, personally am actually attempting to operate a mail server for privacy
 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/817433/
[09:38] <_NiC> Hetep, I'd suggest you go for either postfix or exim, both available in ubuntu. There are many good howtos for setting up what you want.
[09:39] <bkerensa> addy989: Can you explain your problem in more detail?
[09:39] <zykotick9> JoshR1: sorry, i don't have any suggestions for that.
[09:39] <_NiC> Hetep, note that it takes alot of effort to maintain an MTA properly, with spamfiltering and all that.
 : Oh that means Ubuntu 11.1o doest not support Bluetooth ???
[09:39]  * dannel hasn't received a single spam in years of running mailserver :O
[09:40] <Hetep> _NiC: postfix & exim are incompatible IMAP & varieus formats
[09:40] <MaDrense> anyone getting "cannot fork()" errors with 11.10 ?!
[09:41] <_NiC> Hetep, what?
[09:41] <aBound> akpk, Not exactly could be some other problem. I can't say for certain as I don't use bluetooth devices.
[09:41] <Hetep> would really appreciate to use Lotus, not certain if Lotus would work with Ubuntu Server
[09:41] <_NiC> lotus!
[09:42] <aBound> I think I'll try my bluetooth real quick.
[09:43] <_NiC> Hetep, why on earth would you want to use lotus?
[09:43] <nepolean> do i need to start php5 as well as apache 2 ?
[09:43] <_NiC> nepolean, no
[09:44] <_NiC> nepolean, but you need to make sure the php module is loaded.
 Its Ok,anyway thank you very much.
[09:44] <akpk> :-P
[09:44] <akpk> :-))
[09:44] <Hetep> Lotus supports Pop3 SMTP & Imap
[09:44] <akpk> ]<aBound> Thank U ,Bye
[09:44] <aBound> akpk, Sorry about that.
[09:44] <DJango_Novice> hi there
[09:44] <_NiC> nepolean, and configure apache to use it for php-files.
[09:44] <llutz_> Hetep: postfix/exim are smpt servers, they don't have anything to do with imap/pop
[09:44] <aBound> :P
 : No,probs
[09:45] <_NiC> Hetep, use exim or postfix for smtp, and then you can use other services for imap or pop.
[09:45] <llutz_> smtp*
[09:45] <nepolean> _NiC how to start apache2 and in which file to look for module loading?
[09:45] <edheldil> Hetep:  I use postfix+dovecot
[09:45] <DJango_Novice> huser settings on ubuntu 11.10 is disabled ...how shall i enable it?
[09:45] <_NiC> Hetep, like edheldil says, dovecot is a good choice.
[09:45] <DJango_Novice> user settings i mean
[09:46] <_NiC> Hetep, dovecot supports both pop and imap, also with ssl.
[09:46] <_NiC> nepolean, apache2's configfiles are in /etc/apache2/
[09:46] <Hetep> perhaps wiki information is not updated
[09:47] <soa2ii> How can you tall apt to override all edited config files? Is there a way to do that?
[09:48] <saganbyte> Hi
[09:48] <dannel> HI
[09:49] <saganbyte> I m ttrying to install Ubuntu Server 10.04 on a netbook with no CD ROM
[09:49] <saganbyte> i m using a thumbdrive
[09:49] <saganbyte> the installationdoesnt proceed beyond the CD Driver installation
[09:49] <nepolean> _NiC theres no option in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file for php module
[09:49] <iceroot> nepolean: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[09:50] <saganbyte> it cannot detect a CD ROM (coz there isnt one) and it tries to load its drivers but fails to install them
[09:50] <saganbyte> Is there something I can do about this
[09:50] <nepolean> iceroot which line should i look for in that
[09:50] <iceroot> nepolean: you want to enable php?
[09:50] <_NiC> nepolean, do ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-{enabled,available}/php*
[09:50] <edheldil> nepolean:  read the apache doc on module loading. Really. Other you will shoot your foot
[09:50] <nepolean> iceroot yes
[09:50] <_NiC> nepolean, if it's only in available, you need to enable it
[09:50] <_NiC> nepolean, if it's in both, you should be set.
[09:50] <_NiC> nepolean, enable it with a2enmod php5
[09:50] <iceroot> nepolean: then its sudo a2enmod or /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[09:51] <iceroot> nepolean: but normally the php5 installation is doint that by default. you are using apache and php from the repos?
[09:51] <nepolean> iceroot yes
[09:52] <edheldil> php or libapache2-mod-php?
[09:52] <islay> whats a good channel to get android dev help?
[09:52] <iceroot> !alis | islay
[09:53] <nepolean> # a2enmod php5
[09:53] <nepolean> Module php5 already enabled
[09:53] <nepolean> iceroot _NiC
[09:53] <scarleo> islay, android-dev
[09:53] <nepolean> iceroot _NiC ^
[09:53] <iceroot> nepolean: apache reloaded?restarted?
[09:54] <nepolean> iceroot services apache reload?
[09:54] <[[thufir]]> islay: android-dev I believe
[09:55] <ikonia> 1[1;3D[1;3D234
[09:55] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[09:55] <nepolean> iceroot think its the command to reload ?
[09:55] <[[thufir]]> islay: at least that's what ##java says in their intro :   Android in #android-dev
[09:55] <aBound> Is there anyway to view a list of commands inside the terminal?
[09:56] <_NiC> aBound, well...
[09:56] <[[thufir]]> aBound: infinite list...just a bout.  at least very large and uncertain #
[09:56] <islay> thanks
[09:56] <_NiC> aBound, not really. ls -l /bin/, ls -l /usr/bin/ at least will give you something to play with. :-)
[09:56] <aBound> Ugh...
[09:56] <[[thufir]]> maybe you could see what's on your env path to get an idea.
[09:56] <aBound> [[thufir]], It's like treasure droving isn't it. lol
[09:57] <aBound> _NiC, Yeah I kinda figured that directory would only give me a few bits. Oh well.
[09:57] <iceroot> aBound: a list like?
[09:58] <edheldil> aBound:  you should have seen me, sitting behind SGI Indy for the first time, clicking on various binaries in /usr/bin/... yeeeears ago
[09:58] <[[thufir]]> lol
[09:58] <iceroot> aBound: all available commands?
[09:58] <[[thufir]]> what about the env path?
[09:58] <aBound> iceroot, Yes.
[09:58] <iceroot> aBound: TAB TAB
[09:58] <aBound> Every command that exist on ubuntu.
[09:58] <zykotick9> aBound: <TAB><TAB> should list all executables in your PATH
[09:59] <iceroot> aBound: TAB TAB will show you every command which is in PATH
[09:59] <nepolean> iceroot _NiC its done. thx
[09:59]  * [[thufir]] bogs
[09:59] <edheldil> aBound:  try to mispell for even more fun ;-)
[10:00] <aBound> edheldil, HA!
[10:00] <aBound> iceroot, Interesting never knew about tab, tab.
[10:01] <aBound> edheldil, I'm surprised you still aren't checking for those hidden commands. :P
[10:01] <linocisco> hi all
[10:01] <linocisco> how could I control download limit of my wifi customers?
[10:02] <_NiC> nepolean, hth!
[10:02] <aBound> _NiC, iceroot, [[thufir]] , zykotick9 edheldil, thankies. :P
[10:02] <edheldil> linocisco:  possibly your wifi router has configs for that. Depends on how enterprisy you are :)
[10:02] <_NiC> aBound, tab is handy, yes. completes all kinds of things. paths and filenames too
[10:03] <linocisco> I sold internet link by means of long distance wifi point to point or P2Muti point. I would like to limit them not to use home router. want to limit only one PC
[10:03] <aBound> Another question I can't output all these commands to a file eh? Something like >> mycmds
[10:03] <linocisco> edheldil: mine  has none
[10:03] <_NiC> aBound, tab completes if only one thing matches, tab tab gives a list of matches if there's more than one
[10:03] <linocisco> edheldil: mac filtering is not good
[10:03] <aBound> _NiC, Indeed I been in the Linux world years ago but forgot all to use all the nifty stuff.
[10:04] <aBound> Been thinking of switching to zsh over bash.
[10:04] <nepolean> how can i make a cron that runs a php file after 5 mins ?
[10:05] <_NiC> nepolean, crontab -e, please read man 5 crontab first. :)
[10:05] <aBound> _NiC, Always good to have a list of commands available if you intend to write shell scripts. :)
[10:05] <edheldil> aBound:  for writing script, the essential is "man bash"
[10:06] <_NiC> aBound, the list would be just too big..
[10:06] <aBound> _NiC, No kidding right but there are some treasures to be found.
[10:06] <aBound> edheldil, Agreed.
[10:07] <_NiC> aBound, awk, sed, cut and grep will get you far. :-)
[10:07] <aBound> haha
[10:07] <aBound> Your tools of the trade.
[10:07] <linocisco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=f6498b7627f198df8f1a500c6cb3790e&t=1754456 does not solve me
[10:08] <aBound> Sounds like learning the shell and programming is to mass of a challenge.
[10:08] <faLUCE> Hi. I have a HUGE .xls file with records with the following fields:  "name, address, email. etc."   I have to manually copy and paste each record into a GUI form but it takes too much time. How can I solve?
[10:09] <llutz_> aBound: for dir in $(echo $PATH|sed 's/:/ /g'); do ls -1 $dir >mycommands.list; done
[10:09] <aBound> llutz, What's that?
[10:09] <trapni> hey. how do I get the sources of upstart (the ubuntu's apt-get install way?)
[10:09] <_NiC> llutz_, heh.
[10:09] <llutz_> aBound: you wanted a list to file
[10:09] <aBound> Indeed.
[10:10] <xro> Hi, i started a python script 1 day ago... It looks like it is blocked... In the shell where i started the script i still have the prompt (normal)... the process is still alive... I can find it when i do a htop... How can i debug it? have information about it?
[10:10] <_NiC> you might want to use >> for that redirect
[10:10] <neatbook> how do u install japanese ?
[10:10] <neatbook> japanese font to type?
[10:10] <bullgard4> http://banshee.fm/support/guide/track-list/: "The browser helps you narrow down the tracks displayed by selecting one or more groups or characteristics. In your Music Library you can browse by track Artist or Album, and in Podcasts you can filter to only show new items, and browse by podcast." I wonder whre the browser is located in Banshee's 2.2.1 program window.
[10:10] <llutz_> aBound: for dir in $(echo $PATH|sed 's/:/ /g'); do whatis $(ls -1 $dir) >mycommands.list; done       if yo want to know what the things are for
[10:10] <neatbook> or korean chinese etc.
[10:10] <aBound> llutz, Looks like it only gave me five commands.
[10:10] <aBound> :P
[10:11] <edheldil> Should have been >>command.list
[10:11] <edheldil> xro:  strace -p <PID>
[10:11] <edheldil> also ps ax
[10:11] <edheldil> maybe it's stopped
[10:12] <karmicthreat> I've got a problem.  I have an init script that uses /dev/usb/lp0 I have a udev rule that assigns it permissions 0666 and leave the user/group at root:lp.  But my init script won't access it.
[10:12] <aBound> Looks like I gotta put on some reading you guys know stuff I don't know. lol
[10:13] <edheldil> aBound:  man bash is a really essential place to start
[10:13] <edheldil> also, read other people's scripts etc
[10:13] <_NiC> aBound, there's a few bash shell scripting guides out there too. some are quite good.
[10:13] <_NiC> aBound, with lots of neat little tricks.
[10:13] <aBound> edheldil, Wouldn't reading the whole man page be insane?
[10:14] <_NiC> aBound, it's nice to have a general idea of what's possible with the builtin commands. many things are. :)
[10:14] <aBound> _NiC, I looked at some tutorials but I just didn't like the way it was conformed.
[10:14] <pippo> !ciao
[10:14] <aBound> Indeed.
[10:14] <edheldil> of course, but skimming through it to find programming idioms is important
[10:14] <pippo> !list
[10:15] <llutz_> aBound: http://mywiki.wooledge.org  has some nice info
[10:15] <aBound> I feel like I'm going insane.
[10:16] <aBound> New terminology and ugh.
[10:16] <aBound> What about a book on bash?
[10:16] <llutz_> and abs, advanced bash scripting guide, of course
[10:16] <jatt> my wireless doesn't work I did sudo iwconfig and got: http://codepad.org/4GmuTU1c
[10:16] <xro> edheldil, i did it and i obtained --> http://dpaste.com/693481  can you take a look and give me a hint... (it looks the script wait for data and they never come)
[10:16] <jatt> does this mean the card is off?
[10:16] <trapni> how do I grep the list of installable packages to get the real name of the libnih package, e.g.?
[10:17] <jatt> it's a 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300
[10:17] <edheldil> xro:  perhaps it does not like it's in the background?
[10:17] <zykotick9> trapni: you could try "apt-cache search libnih"
[10:17] <_NiC> trapni, aptitude search libnih doesn't give you what you want?
[10:17] <edheldil> hard to tell without knowing more
[10:17] <bryn_> what does it mean when a checkbox is grayed out in update manager?
[10:18] <xro> edheldil, i started it from a shell in gnome X...  do you thing there is something wrong?
[10:19] <trapni> _NiC: yeah, did not remember `aptitute search NAME` in the first place. so thank ya :)
[10:20] <edheldil> xro:  Can't say with so little info. SHOULD it do some network communication, for example?
[10:20] <edheldil> or run subprocesses?
[10:21] <xro> edheldil, it's a python script with many network interactions... But there is no subprocess... I think that the script is waiting to get data from a distant server and don't get them...
[10:22] <_NiC> xro, did you run the strace?
[10:22] <xro> _NiC, yes --> http://dpaste.com/693481
[10:22] <_NiC> ah.
[10:23] <yogg> how can I fore an fsck on an mounted drive? I always get "WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted. ..." -> "Would you realy continue (y/n)?". How can i disable this question or answer it with "yes" out of a script?
[10:23] <_NiC> yogg, you should really umount it first.
[10:23] <llutz_> yogg: you don't want to do that
[10:23] <xro> could i send a sigcont to the process.. So the script should continue?
[10:23] <jonathon> I DLed a program that's precompiled but comes with a install.sh script, How do I install it?
[10:23] <yogg> on a read only filesystem there should not be a problem with that
[10:24] <edheldil> xro: quite possibly it waits for data that never comes. If you want to debug it, the pdb or strace from the beginning
[10:24] <llutz_> yogg: yes|fsck -some /dev/blah             if you really want
[10:25] <_NiC> xro, does lsof -np <pid> show anything .. useful?
[10:25] <edheldil> jonathon:  run the install.sh script, what else would you expect?
[10:25] <zykotick9> jonathon: if you are sure there isn't an ubuntu package, use "sh install.sh" (it probably will need sudo as well)
[10:26] <jonathon> zykotick9, Thanks
[10:26] <yogg> llutz_: brings me the same like    "fsck.ext2 /dev/sda1 -y << EOF yes EOF"    -> not possible while mounted. But if i press yes in the interactive mode it works without problems :/
[10:27] <_NiC> yogg, doesn't fsck have some kind of force option?
[10:27] <xro> _NiC, it shows that a connexion is established between my server and the distant one... the problem should really is "no data comes"-....
[10:27] <aBound> Alright guys have a goodnight or good morning. I'm outta here swoosh...
[10:27] <_NiC> xro, wouldn't that be a problem at the other end, then?
[10:27] <yogg> _NiC: "-f" yes   but this message comes anyway :(
[10:27] <xro> _NiC, if my script continue, no....
[10:28] <edheldil> xro:  but it does not, so ...
[10:28] <xro> edheldil, yes  it does... it waits for that data before continu...
[10:30] <edheldil> xro:  but since that data does not come, it might be problem at the other end of the connection
[10:30] <xro> edheldil, yes... maybe
[10:30] <edheldil> or you wait for too much data.
[10:31] <cjoke> how do I define that I want to install libxtst i386 package with apt-get ?
[10:34] <jatt> may with --force-architecture but is not wise to do so if your host arch ain't i386
[10:34] <cjoke> package:i386
[10:34] <kokyu> mhm
[10:35] <cjoke> jatt, teamviewer wants that lib with i386, why is a myth for me.
[10:41] <ChewsGumKicksBum> Does anyone know of a utility that'll let me delete a file from an ISO without extracting the contents of the ISO?
[10:41] <repozitor> is there exist channel which fund about file system?
[10:45] <TimmyT> i have a laptop. wireless is enabled in the network manager,but it can find wireless networks.ifconfig says there are only 2 interfaces,lo and eth0. but ifconfig -a says wlan0 exists too.how can i solve it?
[10:45] <llutz_> TimmyT: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:52] <jatt> as I said you could try with --force-architecture and see if it works
[10:58] <subb1> hi all.
[10:59] <dlentz> hi
[11:00] <subb1> I have a 40G that can be fully dedicated for ubuntu install. Can u suggest any articles where I get to know about how much to dedicate for /root /home etc? Its for normal desktop usage connected to internet
[11:01] <TimmyT> llutz: it says:siocsifflags: no such file or directory
[11:02] <llutz_> subb1: 15 /  + 25 /home  should be fine
[11:03] <subb1> llutz_, i have 4G ram, so is 8G necessary for swap?
[11:04] <llutz_> subb1: nope, do you want to use hibernation? then swap = ram + a bit, else swap 1gb
[11:05] <llutz_> i hope the myth of swap=2xRAM will die soon. its a rule of thumb from "those days" pc came with 32MB and less
[11:05] <subb1> llutz_: I see. I might need hib' so i guess a 5G swap would do?
[11:06] <rigved> llutz_: but now it is swap=1.5xRAM+VideoRAM, which is approx. = 2xRAM
[11:06] <llutz_> rigved: nonsense
[11:06] <rigved> llutz_: sometimes ram usage is very high and more swap is required in that case...
[11:06] <subb1> llutz_, I have a dedicated video card. so that wont matter i guess.
[11:06] <llutz_> the only reason to have such a mass of swap is hibernation. if one don't want to hibernate, nobody needs > 1gb swap on regular base
[11:07] <llutz_> if more than 1gb swap is used daily, one needs more ram
[11:08] <rigved> llutz_: well i was talking in that context. hibernating when ram is already being used a lot...like when you are doing some heavy work and would to hibernate instead of restarting later and starting all the heavy work from stratch.
[11:08] <subb1> llutz_: ok, thanks :)
[11:09] <llutz_> rigved: practical: since hibernation won't work for the most installations at all, no one needs to care about :(
[11:09] <concrete1itamin> Hi all. I have some unallocated space "on the left" of my Ubuntu partitions. What tool should I use to merge it into / (i.e. use it to extend my Ubuntu's space)?
[11:11] <scarleo> llutz, but then the rule should be 2xRAM if you want/need hibernation, right?
[11:11] <parana> hi guys how i install gcc to my system?
[11:12] <parana> how can i**
[11:12] <norbert79> parana: Did you try to use the package manager or plain sudo apt-get install gcc?
[11:12] <parana> actually i use angstrom instead of ubuntu but no one replies in angstrom channel
[11:13] <parana> they are both linux based, so i ask here
[11:13] <llutz_> !ot |parana:
[11:13] <dlentz> parana, sudo apt-get install build-essential (assiming angstrom is debian-based)
[11:13] <llutz_> parana: ##linux
[11:13] <norbert79> dlentz: He might not want to build packages, just saying, he was asking for gcc only
[11:14] <dlentz> fair enough
[11:15] <renegade_m> hi guyz!
[11:15] <nlko> how do i apt-get install nodejs on 10.04, do i need to add extra repos?
[11:15] <renegade_m> can I use ndiswrapper from Lucid Lynx to Intrepid Ibex?
[11:17] <norbert79> renegade_m: Going from Lucid to Ibex? Why don't you upgrade then? And afaik Ibex had ndiswrapper available. If you are looking for the old repositories, you might want to check http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/, setting as repository. Afaik Ibex is not anymore supported
[11:18] <norbert79> renegade_m: Yet you can still usde the mentioned website for grabbing old packages for older distributions
[11:20] <renegade_m> cause, I want to enable Atheros wireless on my old 8.10 Intrepid Ibex.
[11:20] <dlentz> why do people use non-LTS releases for years?
[11:21] <dr_willis> lazy?
[11:21] <dr_willis> if it works ...
[11:21] <llutz_> they don't care about security-update...
[11:21] <norbert79> renegade_m: If you add the mentioned repository, you can install ndiswrapper. http://old-releases.ubuntu.com offers ndiswrapper too
[11:22] <dlentz> dr_willis, obviously it's not working ;)
[11:22] <renegade_m> norber79: thanks! I will..:)
[11:22] <Lantizia> Lo my iSCSI disk is automatically logged in when I boot up the PC - but it seems fstab tries to mount the filesystems on it before it has had a chance to login, any ideas how I can get the iSCSI to login before fstab tries to mount?
[11:23] <renegade_m> I'm playing on it.:) learning from it as well.:)
[11:23] <renegade_m> I'm new to linux by the way.:)
[11:23] <dlentz> i see
[11:23] <norbert79> dlentz: It's a bit offtopic, but let me reply: Sometimes specific tools are tight to specific distributions, or the migration would take too much time. Think onm Precise and Lucid. Lucid came with Gnome 2, Precise will be Gnome 3. Now not everyone likes the second, or will have issues with migrating, and doing corrective actions/modifications take time
[11:23] <renegade_m> I just want to know how to install drivers in linux using ubuntu.
[11:23] <norbert79> renegade_m: Oh, well in this case you might want to experiment with a more recent distribution. Is there any specific reason why you are tied to Ibex?
[11:24] <renegade_m> I have a good experience in booting.. unlike my new download 11.10 and even my 10.10
[11:24] <soa2ii> Do you find somewhere an official LDAP client howto for 11.10?
[11:25] <norbert79> renegade_m: Ever considered solving your issues with the recent distributions would be more efficient, than tieing yourself to an older unsupported distribution?
[11:25] <paulmdavies87> hi all, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a server using network boot to a pxelinux image, which should then download the required files from the internet. However, whichever ubuntu mirror I choose, the installer gets stuck on a file in the "loading additional components" stage. The file it sticks on seems to change each time. I've tried several mirrors. Anyone got any ideas?
[11:25] <renegade_m> i see.. but, I just want to know how things are working.:)
[11:26] <renegade_m> you know, experimenting.:)
[11:26] <norbert79> paulmdavies87: Ehm, I think you are mixing the netinstall image with PXE booting... PXE booting is a way differenbt method
[11:26] <paulmdavies87> umm, ok
[11:26] <renegade_m> I'm a computer science grad. too.
[11:26] <paulmdavies87> I'm new to this
[11:26] <ClayTorres> Hi, In Ubuntu version oneiric, does vulnerability CVE-2012-0056 got covered?
[11:26] <paulmdavies87> can you explain the difference?
[11:26] <renegade_m> just playing around, but then, I want to learn, and to know, how things are working.:)
[11:26] <norbert79> paulmdavies87: PXE booting involves basically TFTP method through LAN, basically you boot like from a CDROM but you use a LAN machine for that
[11:27] <renegade_m> thank you guyz!=)
[11:27] <norbert79> renegade_m: I would still suggest using a recent distro, or learn how you can add new repositories for your distribution :)
[11:27] <renegade_m> I see myself using one stable linux distro one day.. something I can depend on.
[11:28] <renegade_m> thanks for that! yes..:)
[11:30] <slidercrank_^H> I have this problem. The network module my network card requires is buggy in the kernel Ubuntu supplies. So I have to manually build the module from the sources of the manufacturer.
[11:30] <slidercrank_^H> That's not a big deal. But when Ubuntu's kernel gets updated, the network is lost. So the question is "how to make Ubuntu run a custom script so that I could rebuild the driver from sources and place it to /lib/modules....?"
[11:30] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: rebuilding a module by a script is not something I'd recommend
[11:30] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: how would you suggest to solve this problem?
[11:30] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: the kernel is not often updated, so just manually rebuild the module each time you update the kernel
[11:30] <dlentz> dkms, if you're up to it
[11:31] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Are you sure your network card isn't supported by the kernel at all? There are some 'drivers' available in the additional kernel-images-addons, called 'restrictred modules'
[11:31] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: I have Unbuntu server on an production server. So the loss of connectivity is a serious problem
[11:31] <meerkats> how do I set ubuntu to automatically open a new HDD every time I plug it in?
[11:31] <jatt> open or mount
[11:31] <meerkats> plus, the HDD is named Volume-1, but I can only access it via usb0, why?
[11:32] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: it's not supported by the module which is in the kernel from Ubuntu
[11:32] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: - I apologise if this seems a bad thing to say, but matching hardware support to OS versions is a critical part of putting a server into a "production" state
[11:33] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: I understand, so 'restricted' doesn't help either. This is weird, because normally that does the trick. Any specific reason why you are tied to that device? And why was Ubuntu chosen as server environment in first place? (I know, this might sound against Ubuntu, but it's worth asking)
[11:33] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: you can't say if it's supported.  /lib/modules/2.6.32-38-server/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko Seems like a normal driver. It's part of kernel. But it doesn't work.
[11:33] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Did you also try to use parameters for the hardware device?
[11:34] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what network card is it ?
[11:34] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Sometimes specific hardwares need specific module parametering foor making it work
[11:34] <wade> is the module loaded? sudo modprobe e10000e - or whatever
[11:34] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: I would personally choose debian. It was not my choice. Passing parameters to the kernel module doesn't help. Only the official driver from Intel works
[11:34] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what network card device is it ?
[11:34] <dlentz> s/he probable needs a newer version of said module. not uncommon
[11:34] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Seems weird, but not impossible.
[11:35] <norbert79> aye
[11:35] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: One more question: what server version you are running and what kernel do you use?
[11:36] <dlentz> slidercrank_^H, did you file a bug?
[11:36] <slidercrank_^H> dlentz: I didn't
[11:36] <dlentz> slidercrank_^H is running lucid 2.6.32-38
[11:36] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: Ubuntu Lucid (10.04). the kernel is 2.6.32-38-server
[11:36] <norbert79> dlentz: Might because of older kernel too. Lucid is being offered 3 different kernels at least, a more recent might work
[11:36] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Well, Lucid is being offered kernel 3.0 too
[11:37] <|hmax|> How do I turn ubuntu into a router?
[11:37] <dlentz> in lucid-proposed
[11:37] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what actual network card is it
[11:37] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: You might want to add backports and proposed too
[11:37] <ikonia> |hmax|: using something like iptables to make a network routing/forwarding table
[11:37] <norbert79> |hmax|: And using limited install
[11:38] <|hmax|> ikonia: thanks.  How would I get the outbound connection to connect to tor on port 9050?  Any tutorials you can point me to?
[11:38] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: I think I'm not the only with this problem. I've seen this bug mentioned on the internet. So , I guess, Ubuntu developers are aware of it
[11:38] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what network card is it
[11:38] <ikonia> !iptables | |hmax|
[11:39] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: That's probable, but if you have a different method of solving this, like using a newer kernel, it might be worth trying
[11:39] <ikonia> I can't believe you are all making these blind recommendations when you don't even know what network card he's using
[11:39] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Since you can have more kernels installed in parelell, yet you need to restart the server while switching from one to another
[11:39] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: And yes, for start I would recommend using lshw for listing the server's parameters
[11:40] <ikonia> that won't list any parameters
[11:40] <norbert79> ikonia: True, but could give one a start
[11:40] <myndzi> i want to put a lightweight window manager on top of ubuntu server within vmware so i can use (vmware) unity to launch apps but mostly leave it running some services
[11:40] <ikonia> it will list a name associated with hard coded PCI id database
[11:40] <ikonia> I want to know the network card make/model
[11:40] <dlentz> ikonia, i trust slidercrank_^H's researched the issue
[11:40] <norbert79> ikonia: I use Google for such further questions then
[11:40] <myndzi> i installed server and then installed two different -desktop packages but neither of them filled out the applications folder that vmware gives ;\
[11:40] <myndzi> i installed ubuntu desktop instead and it is filled properly, but there are a ton of things i don't want installed
[11:40] <ikonia> dlentz: how ?
[11:41] <ikonia> it's not hard to just confirm the network card make/model
[11:41] <myndzi> any idea which way is easiest to go, or what in particular provides that info to vmware?
[11:41] <ikonia> myndzi: remove what you don't want
[11:41] <myndzi> that's where i'm at now, but it looks like a big task
[11:41] <ikonia> myndzi: it has nothing to do with vmware, just remove the software from the install you don't want to use
[11:41] <myndzi> i can't multi-select or anything
[11:41] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: I have this list. When I was searching for the problem, I grabbed all the info I could. netcard registers and eeprom, lswh, dmesg and other things
[11:41] <ikonia> myndzi: open the package manager, select what you don't wnat and click "remove"
[11:41] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: do you know what make/model network card you have, yes/no
[11:41] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Still, I would still try using a more recent kernel, instead of sticking to 2.6.32...
[11:42] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: I understand
[11:42] <slidercrank_^H> yes
[11:42] <myndzi> i'm not sure you understand what i meant by "no multiselect" :P
[11:42] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what make/model network card do you have
[11:42] <myndzi> just looking to save an hour+ of clicking
[11:42] <myndzi> and password typing
[11:42] <ikonia> myndzi: use synaptic package manager
[11:42] <myndzi> as well as understand what went wrong ;)
[11:42] <ikonia> myndzi: you only type your password once
[11:42] <myndzi> mm
[11:42]  * myndzi looks
[11:42] <myndzi> lol. i have to install it first, huh? ;)
[11:43] <myndzi> thanks
[11:43] <myndzi> this'll probably get it done
[11:43] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: thernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L
[11:43] <slidercrank_^H> *E
[11:44] <ikonia> s/join #debian
[11:44] <ikonia> oops
[11:44] <ikonia> sorry
[11:44] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <myndzi> is there perhaps a list somewhere of which packages are included in the desktop vs server installations?
[11:44] <norbert79> ikonia: Irony :)
[11:44] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: did you say it to me?
[11:44] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: http://ark.intel.com/products/32209/Intel-82574L-Gigabit-Ethernet-Controller this one ?
[11:45] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: no, it was just a typo from my buffer
[11:45] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: I did a quick Google check, and it seems, that all of the problems are related to kernel 2.6.X, so I still would say, that it would be worth trying a more recent kernel
[11:45] <ikonia> norbert79: what are you talking about
[11:45] <ikonia> norbert79: how are you googling his problems when he's only just told us the network card model
[11:46] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: I'll try. Thanks for the suggestion. If it doesn't help, I'll still have to solve the problem with running a custom script automatically
[11:46] <norbert79> ikonia: Well, I did a quick lookup, and I can also see his problems listed
[11:47] <metaspike1> so much nonsensical chatter v_v
[11:47] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: looks like this model. it has the same number at least. My network card is integrated
[11:47] <ikonia> norbert79: quick look up of what, ?? he's only just shown us the model number
[11:47] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Just out of curiosity: What's the server model and model number?
[11:47] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: can you give me 5 minutes to check a few things before make any changes
[11:47] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: yes
[11:47] <dlentz> metaspike1, thank you for your sage contribution
[11:48] <dlentz> dlentz, thank you for your sage contribution
[11:48]  * dlentz just metaanalyzed
[11:49] <norbert79> ikonia: Listen, if his server gets dropped anyway while a new kernel install a try for a more recent kernel won1t hurt, and won't take longer, than 5 minutes... Worst case he needs to do an apt-get purge of the newer kernel... It's not like modifying a whole filesystem...
[11:49] <ikonia> norbert79: yes it will
[11:49] <ikonia> norbert79: randomly enabling back ports and proposed update repos with no reason is very dangerous and can pull in dependencies that cause problems/break other things
[11:50] <norbert79> ikonia: Aw come on, you can't think of this serious. This way youa re saying, that Ubuntu offers bad things in it's repos...
[11:50] <neatbook> how do u check spaces in ur hdd?
[11:50] <norbert79> neatbook: You mean filespace? take df -h for example
[11:51] <ikonia> norbert79: no - I'm saying it offers things that can conflict with the base product / not stable that's what "proprosed is" - not production ready a proposed update
[11:51] <ikonia> norbert79: so putting that sort of thing on a production server which could update dependencies is not a good idea, more so when there is no thought behind it or research
[11:52] <norbert79> ikonia: Besides, he just needs to switch back to the older kernel, that's it... Keeping it simple works always
[11:52] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: this motherboard: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3400/X8SIE.cfm?IPMI=N&TYP=LN2
[11:52] <norbert79> slidercrank_^H: Anyway: Integrated network card in a server? Sounds like a desktop system turned into a server to me... :S
[11:52] <bullgard4> http://banshee.fm/support/guide/track-list/: "The browser helps you narrow down the tracks displayed by selecting one or more groups or characteristics. In your Music Library you can browse by track Artist or Album, and in Podcasts you can filter to only show new items, and browse by podcast." I wonder whre the browser is located in Banshee's 2.2.1 program window.
[11:52] <neatbook> my ubuntu software centre is not working
[11:53] <neatbook> how do you search available packs on terminal?
[11:53] <norbert79> ikonia: Like if he isn't forced doing 'research' during every upgrade...
[11:53] <bullgard4> !details | neatbook
[11:53] <ikonia> norbert79: what ?
[11:53] <norbert79> neatbook: apt-cache search
[11:53] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: got a few moments to provide a little more information for me ?
[11:53] <neatbook> my ubuntu software centre is just a grey window no pic or nothin
[11:54] <neatbook> maybe reboot will solve the problem
[11:54] <meerkats> E: yacy: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1, would sudo apt-get clean make any difference?
[11:55] <norbert79> meerkats: apt-get clean just does regular cleaning of packages. Not really
[11:55] <norbert79> apt-get -f install might solve the issue, but some details on the error might help us help you more :)
[11:56] <meerkats> norbert79, no, force install didnt do anything yesterday
[11:56] <norbert79> meerkats: Ehm, correction "clean" is related to the cache
[11:56] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: yes, feel free to ask. there are two intergated cards (they are equal)
[11:56] <norbert79> meerkats: Well some details on the package and on the error might give more clues
[11:57] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: great, so both cards have the same issue, or just one ?
[11:57] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: currently only one is in use. I haven't tested the other card
[11:57] <norbert79> .
[11:58] <norbert79> Cheers
[11:58] <norbert79> .
[11:58] <norbert79> sorry, having issues with the network recently
[11:58] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: ok, could you post ifconfig $device for the card in question in a paste (remove the IP info - I don't need to see that)
[11:59] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: just want to check a few basics first
[12:03] <bkerensa> I'm unable to install Unity on 12.04 getting dependency errors... http://paste.ubuntu.com/817529/
[12:04] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: hw info http://pastebin.com/9KeYJcFT
[12:04] <norbert79> Cheers
[12:04] <ikonia> bkerensa: 1. unity is already installed on 12.04 2.) #ubuntu+1 channel for 12.04 disussion
[12:04] <dlentz> bkerensa, did you apt-get update?
[12:05] <bkerensa> ikonia: Well it is not letting me select it from lightdm
[12:05] <dlentz> indicator 3-7 just came into the repos, maybe it didn't reach your mirror yet
[12:06] <meerkats> if i plug in anything with USB I can see 2 new icons in my home folder: one named usb0, that grants access to it, and another one, with the correct name of the yusb, but with no access. why?
[12:06] <norbert79> Ehm, that's some well done work, but I was more curious on the server itself, since some might provide more detailed infos even on the included hardware devices too
[12:06] <Melior> Is it possible to keep vsftpd despite installing pureftpd? (aptitude install pure-ftpd-mysql / The following packages will be REMOVED:  vsftpd{a})
[12:06] <norbert79> Is this a specific server, or an 'own made'?
[12:07] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: very interesting, you have some collisions there
[12:08] <jamesdoe> hello
[12:08] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: could you please run "sudo ethtool eth0" and pastebin the output please.
[12:08] <HJE841> What is the recommended irc client for Ubuntu?
[12:08] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: just a minute
[12:08] <ikonia> HJE841: your choice
[12:08] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: no rush
[12:08] <_NiC> HJE841, whichever you're most comfortable with.
[12:09] <LjL> HJE841: no real recommendation, many people who like GUI use X-Chat and many people who like text use irssi, but there are several other options
[12:09] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: you've also got a transmission queue size of 10, which is not great either
[12:09] <HJE841> Apparently empathy doesn't support all commands :(
[12:09] <ikonia> (especially considering you've not got much data on your registers)
[12:10] <HJE841> thx
[12:12] <AndyUbuntu1> Hey Everyone
[12:12] <norbert79> One thing which I just could see
[12:12] <slidercrank_^H> norbert79: http://pastebin.com/1tiEpJ22 ethtool output
[12:12] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: oh, it' for you
[12:12] <jatt> erc ftw
[12:12] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: just so you know, it's me who keeps asking.
[12:12] <ikonia> ahh you got it
[12:13] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: whoaa, are you meant to be running that card at 10 hdx duplex ?
[12:13] <AndyUbuntu1> Wondering if anyone could help with an ageold problem. Everytime I try to reder a file in kdenlive it crashes
[12:13] <AndyUbuntu1> and for some reason I am not able to fix the issue
[12:13] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: nope. but it's currently in that mode
[12:13] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: why is it in that mode /
[12:14] <AndyUbuntu1> this has been ongoing now since an update. I have updated kdenlive many times over the past few weeks and it has not fixed anything :s
[12:14] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: because of the switch being used. it doesn't support 100mbit
[12:15] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: what does the switch support as you are getting a good few collisions in there for such a small ammount of data and your queue size is quite high for again, small data through put
[12:15] <norbert79> [A
[12:15] <kwtm> Hi. Where on the web do I find latest news (Ubuntu WIki, forums etc.) on the 12.04 LTS distribution, whatever it's called?  (Especially interested in the Kubuntu version.)
[12:16] <iceroot> kwtm: #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <norbert79> kwtm: Ehm, since it's January, don't you think it's early?
[12:16] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: that's because of the driver. 1.0.2-k2 is bad (from Ubuntu's kernel)
[12:16] <iceroot> kwtm: and normally hte blog from mark is a good start for new things but mostly based on unity
[12:16] <kwtm> norbert79: I guess that's why I can't find stuff the usual way.  I'd like to know if I should upgrade to that version.
[12:16] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: sorry - I don't believe it is
[12:16] <kwtm> iceroot: Where is "blog from mark"?
[12:16] <slidercrank_^H> if I install the one from Intel it will work flawlessly
[12:16] <AndyUbuntu1> does anyone here have any knowledge of kdenlive?
[12:16] <Gentoo64> kwtm, well its not even stable
[12:16] <Gentoo64> so why would you
[12:16] <iceroot> !anyone | AndyUbuntu1
[12:17] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: so if you use the external one. it gets zero collisions and the queue size goes to zero
[12:17] <kwtm> Gentoo64: No. ,it isn't stable.  Usually there's a list of goals or some burndown chart or something?
[12:17] <slidercrank_^H> ikonia: let's make an experiment
[12:17] <iceroot> kwtm: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/
[12:17] <kwtm> iceroot: Thx.
[12:17] <AndyUbuntu1> Wondering if anyone could help with an ageold problem. Everytime I try to reder a file in kdenlive it crashes . Thanks iceroot
[12:18] <LjL> kwtm: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise for the chart you're looking for
[12:18] <kwtm> LjL: Thx
[12:18] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:18] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: look at the pastebin you've just posted me
[12:18] <AndyUbuntu1> does anyone know why kdenlive crashes when kdenlive tries o render?
[12:18] <ikonia> slidercrank_^H: when the card works it's set at 10/hdx, when it's "dead" it's set at fdx - it won't run at fdx which is why it's "dead"
[12:19] <kantor> Hello
[12:19] <myndzi> went with ubuntu server in the end
[12:19] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu1: i dont know what kdenlive is but maybe you can call it with a debug-option?
[12:19] <myndzi> how do i permanently set the keyboard layout to dvorak?
[12:20] <myndzi> it changes when i execute dpkg-reconfigure console-data, but then doesn't save when i do dpkg-reconfigure console-setup (google result that seemed most likely)
[12:20] <AndyUbuntu1> kdenlive is a video editor in linux. The debug options dont seem to show a lot really
[12:23] <myndzi> nm, think i got it after all
[12:24] <kantor> I have installed an application (more specifically the wesnoth game) with scons. Now I want to uninstall it. I have unpacked the game, and executed scons -c install from the game directory. But wesnoth is sill on my computer. I tried multiple option variations of the scons program: sconsc -c, scons -c install, scons uninstall, but wesnoth seem NOT to be uninstalled. How can I use scons to uninstall it??
[12:24] <cir> excuse me
[12:24] <ikonia> kantor: scons ?
[12:24] <cir> i have a problem with my GRUB....
[12:24] <kantor> ikonia, yes scons.
[12:24] <kantor> ikonia, why are you asking?
[12:25] <ikonia> kantor: because it's not a package manager I've heard of - and I've never seen used in ubuntu
[12:25] <LjL> ikonia: it's not a package manager, it's a "make" replacement
[12:26] <ikonia> oh, so a compile, how annoying
[12:26] <myndzi> guess not. damn, why should it be this hard to use anything but us-english qwerty :(
[12:26] <kantor> ikonia, it is a building system, like autotools, or cmake . . . with autotools you do a ./configured, than make uninstall to remove something which was installed from source code.
[12:26] <AndyUbuntu1> Oh My Days, would just like a video editor that works :P
[12:26] <AndyUbuntu1> why dont they work anymore
[12:26] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: you keep saying that
[12:26] <Gentoo64> myndzi, what does loadkeys dv do
[12:26] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: moaning about it won't change it
[12:26] <Gentoo64> or ahetevr dvorak is
[12:27] <AndyUbuntu1> ikonia thanks :)
[12:28] <AndyUbuntu1> ikonia, neither will asking questions with not much feedback :)
[12:28] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: so stop both then
[12:28] <mammoth> quit
[12:28] <LjL> kantor: not sure about scons, but with make, "uninstall" only works if it's explicitly provided as a target by the program you're compiling. i've had a quick look at scons and it doesn't seem to be any different in that respect
[12:29] <LjL> kantor: next time you may want to consider installing with "checkinstall" (although checkinstall is hardly perfect), so you can remove later
[12:29] <AndyUbuntu1> ikonia lol :) Kinda need a one video editor to work at the moment. Sort important....hmmmmm
[12:30] <CharminTheMoose> Are there any applications out there that can display 'menu-ised' menus that are window manager agnostic?
[12:30] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: yes, but moaning about it won't make it work - so please stop, you've been doing this for a while now
[12:30] <norbert79> AndyUbuntu1: Ever tried OpenShot? Version 4.0 is out, and it might be a nice tool to use
[12:30] <Gentoo64> AndyUbuntu1, openshot and avidemux edit videos
[12:30] <Gentoo64> tried them?
[12:30] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: not sure what you mean...? Ubuntu has done a lot of work to make the menubar "unattached" to the window, so most applications will now use that
[12:30] <kantxx> hey all.. im seeing a weird prob w/ ubuntul installer.. the partitioner doesnt see my hdd but i can see it when dropping to a shell and doing fdisk -l
[12:30] <norbert79> AndyUbuntu1: OpenShot has it's own PPA as well, and works like charm; Lucid also supported
[12:31] <kantor> LjL, If I do a scons uninstall it prints some checks, and in the end "scons: done building targets." and nothing happens :(
[12:31] <LjL> kantor: i suggest you reinstall using "checkinstall", then you can have a look at the resulting .deb file to see which files you need to remove
[12:32] <kantor> OK, thanks LjL
[12:32] <d00m> does ubuntu have an xinitrc file?
[12:32] <Gentoo64> d00m, it should use a logjn manager..
[12:33] <d00m> Gentoo64: what if I want to change to different  a WM?
[12:33] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, what I mean is like, with say, TWM, or WindowMaker, an application menu is automatically generated, but the downside is that it's specific to the window manager. I'm wondering if there's an application that's compatible with 'menu' (the menu generator app), so I don't have to rely on the WM being compatible.
[12:33] <Gentoo64> d00m, you can make one then startx
[12:33] <Gentoo64> d00m, the login manager should handle the commands for any wm you install
[12:33] <AndyUbuntu1> norbert79 and Gentoo64 thanks for your positive feedback. I kwill try avidemux as openshot seems to not work at the moment either. think it is somethig with melt :s  ikonia give it a break, all i need is a hand to fix it. Not tsome lame comments!!!
[12:34] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: just stop moaning
[12:34] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: ah, you're talking about the menu to *start* apps? i wouldn't know.
[12:34] <d00m> Gentoo64: I dont get any options, need to conf some files?
[12:34] <Gentoo64> d00m, what wm is it
[12:34] <d00m> i3
[12:34] <ikonia> i3 ?
[12:34] <Gentoo64> apparently it should show up in lightdm or something
[12:34] <d00m> yeah i3-wm
[12:34] <norbert79> AndyUbuntu1: Sure, any time. We could also try to fix your issues with OpenShot as well in query, if you are looking for further help
[12:34] <ikonia> I'll need to look that one up
[12:34] <AndyUbuntu1> ikonia do one! I got some great advice from the others!!
[12:34] <CharminTheMoose> Cheers anyway, LjL.
[12:35] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu1: that's uncalled for, please just stop moaning, you've got your help, so that's great.
[12:36] <AndyUbuntu1> norbert79 thanks. Have you come across and issues yourself with openshot?
[12:36] <myndzi> lol so basically vmware's "easy install" skipped right past the only part of the install i cared about
[12:36] <myndzi> i tried to edit the preseed file and it screwed up easy install for whatever reason
[12:36] <d00m> whats the default login mngr...gdm right?
[12:37] <myndzi> but that's okay because now i have dvorak!
[12:37] <overclucker> lightdm
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> lightdm
[12:37] <d00m> in 10.10
[12:37] <overclucker> and it detect i3, it does for me
[12:37] <overclucker> ah
[12:37] <overclucker> gdm
[12:38] <overclucker> it's gdm in 10.10
[12:38] <d00m> any one have xperiences with lightdm in 10.10?
[12:38] <d00m> I've heard that one's pretty neat
[12:38] <xsl> hello all, is it possible for a network device to cause IRQ interrupts on a network card on Ubuntu 10.04 ? the driver is r8169
[12:38] <Gentoo64> d00m, if its just i3 you want, you could just stop the login manager and use startx with an xinitrc
[12:39] <Gentoo64> xsl, is it an 8169 card?
[12:39] <Gentoo64> 8168*
[12:39] <xsl> Gentoo64: [178342.710403] [<f8097fe0>] (rtl8169_interrupt+0x0/0x1d0 [r8169])
[12:40] <xsl> [178342.722519] Disabling IRQ #17
[12:41] <Gentoo64> xsl, not sure
[12:41] <xsl> Gentoo64: 06:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 10) | 	Kernel driver in use: r8169
[12:42] <Gentoo64> xsl, weird, must use realtek chip idk
[12:42] <d00m> Gentoo64: one Q. there are many more stuffs that start up with a gnome-session right? so if I wanna put em all in the xinitrc, for say if I want to roll back, or just want to use gnome..
[12:42] <Gentoo64> no idea about d link
[12:43] <Gentoo64> d00m, you could just have them commented in xinitrc
[12:43] <Gentoo64> but like someone else said, i3 should appear in the login menu
[12:43] <Gentoo64> :s
[12:43] <d00m> I mean would adding gnome-session (yeah commented) suffice?
[12:43] <Gentoo64> i think for gnome you might need a couple extra bits
[12:44] <d00m> Gentoo64: thats what am thinking about.
[12:44] <kantxx> hey all.. im seeing a weird prob w/ ubuntul installer.. the partitioner doesnt see my hdd but i can see it when dropping to a shell and doing fdisk -l
[12:44] <Gentoo64> d00m, im used to adding ck-launch-session etc
[12:44] <Gentoo64> but i havent used gnome in a long time
[12:44] <d00m> Gentoo64: I do that too. that suffices?
[12:45] <Gentoo64> should do afaik
[12:46] <d00m> there's an odd problem btw, empathy is going unresponsive while trying to send a file, "Hashing.." ! :/
[12:48] <Shakyj> hey, I have ubuntu with LXDE and 4 screens. My launcher and icons have now moved the the centre of the screen space. They were on the left side and now are in the middle. Changing the panel preferences seems to have no effect. How can I reset it?
[12:48] <fidel> Shakyj: it might help to add some more details - as in: unity,gnome-shell or whatever else
[12:48] <fidel> what panel?
[12:49] <fidel> lxpanel?
[12:50] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[12:50] <glebihan> fidel, he did say he's running lxde...
[12:50] <kamilnadeem> I am having a problem while updating my ubuntu 11.10
[12:51] <oldude67> hey is there a package that can help with blue prints, like in designing them?
[12:51] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/817579/
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> the update never completes and I get an error
[12:52] <glebihan> kamilnadeem, you have a syntax error in your /etc/default/grub file : /etc/default/grub: 25: Syntax error: newline unexpected
[12:52] <ironfroggy_> i use xmodmap to switch my capslock and ctrl, but everytime i connect a keyboard i have to run it again
[12:53] <ironfroggy_> is there a way to get that automatic?
[12:53] <kamilnadeem> glebihan:  so how do I fix it?
[12:53] <glebihan> kamilnadeem, edit that file and correct the error
[12:54] <sherif> when i open pidgin it hangs n take long time to open n have to reopen it several times to open at last
[12:54] <sherif> how can i fix that
[12:54] <kamilnadeem> glebihan: ok trying .
[12:55] <kamilnadeem> glebihan: ok I have opened it in gedit
[12:56] <Shakyj> fidel, sorry, didn't know what it's called. It's probably lxpanel as it's a default LXDE install
[12:57] <kamilnadeem> glebihan: Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/817586/ what should I edit out ?
[12:57] <pippo> !ciao
[12:58] <kamilnadeem> glebihan: also when my system boots up I see the option to choose many linux kernel (12,13,14)
[12:58] <pippo> !list
[12:58] <Chucky_Luciano> hi, is there any open source software for learning a language?
[12:59] <kostodo> Hi guys, I'm trying to make my /var/www directory have permissions so that if two users from the same group create folders/files inside it, they both have rw rights to them because they are in the same group. How is that done?
[12:59] <progre55> hi guys. how do you delete the leading n lines in a file from a terminal?
[12:59] <kantxx> gah!
[12:59] <DarthCaeduces> hola, what is a way to send wifi signals from a local area network exclusively?
[13:00] <LjL> progre55: tail -n +number
[13:00] <LjL> progre55: (that will output to stdout, you need to redirect *not* to the same file, and overwrite later)
[13:01] <progre55> LjL: but I want to delete the n number of lines from head, not tail, and say, if the file contains only 7 lines, and I delete 10, it should be empty
[13:02] <progre55> LjL: the thing is, I dont know the total number of lines
[13:02] <LjL> progre55: "tail" will show the last n lines, or if you use the + switch, the "tail" starting from line n. so it *will* "delete" the lines from the head, basically.
[13:03] <progre55> LjL: oh I see, thanks, let me try it :)
[13:03] <LjL> progre55: if you have a file with lines 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, and you do tail -n +3, it will show 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
[13:03] <dioxin> join #pandaboard
[13:03] <kostodo> Hi guys, I'm trying to make my /var/www directory have permissions so that if two users from the same group create folders/files inside it, they both have rw rights to them because they are in the same group. How is that done?
[13:03] <progre55> LjL: thanks
[13:03] <lelinho> !list
[13:05] <lelinho> !alis
[13:06] <kantxx> GAH Y DOESNT UBUNTU SEE MY HDD!!!!
[13:06] <kamilnadeem> glebihan: You there?
[13:07] <LjL> !caps | kantxx
[13:07] <kantxx> ubottu: i cant :)
[13:07] <soa2ii> Anyone an idea why autofs won't mount my /home? I'm using ldap. http://pastebin.com/tqqNmZqa
[13:07] <kantxx> ubottu: smarter than i
[13:07] <kantxx> .heh
[13:07] <DarthCaeduces> ubottu: you are not intelligent
[13:08] <DarthCaeduces> ubottu: DarthCaeduces es more intelligent
[13:08] <LjL> please don't mess with the bot
[13:08] <DarthCaeduces> *renideos
[13:09] <llutz_> kostodo: you need to set acl for that (man getfacl, man setfacl)
[13:09] <kamilnadeem> Any help
[13:10] <bazhang> kamilnadeem, with what
[13:10] <kamilnadeem> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817579/
[13:10] <kamilnadeem> the update never completes and I get an error
[13:10] <bazhang> kamilnadeem, what are you trying to do, a synopsis please
[13:11] <LjL> kamilnadeem: at a glance, GRUB_GFXMODE=>>1024*768-24<< seems incorrect, are you sure that's the syntax for it?
[13:11] <kamilnadeem> LjL: how do I correct it ?
[13:11] <LjL> kamilnadeem: remove the >> <<, turn the "*" into a "x", and possibly remove the -24 (not sure about that)
[13:11] <kamilnadeem> I have the file opened via gksudo nautilus
[13:12] <LjL> kamilnadeem: in other words, GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> LjL: ok trying
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> ok
[13:14] <kamilnadeem> LjL:  :) working
[13:14] <kamilnadeem> Thanks
[13:14] <dsathe> hello
[13:14] <dsathe> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 oneric on my system
[13:15] <dsathe> i cannot seem to get my BOSE 2.1 usb speakers to work
[13:15] <dsathe> can someone please help ?
[13:15] <kantxx> weird... parted works in expert install but not normal...
[13:15] <dsathe> anyone ? its critical
[13:16] <jpds> !patience | dsathe
[13:16] <auronandace> dsathe: can you take a screenshot of alsamixer?
[13:17] <dsathe> one sec
[13:17] <dsathe> the one in terminal ?
[13:17] <auronandace> yes
[13:17] <dsathe> lsusb and pulse both show it
[13:18] <grifo74> hi i use ubuntu 10.04 lts it´s possible update to the next lts in 2013 or i need to format my pc and make a new install?
[13:18] <dsathe> gimme a min
[13:18] <kamilnadeem> Take Care everyone
[13:18] <bazhang> grifo74, sure, though you can do it this year as well 12.04
[13:18] <auronandace> grifo74: yes, you can update from one lts directly to the other
[13:19] <grifo74> thaks very much
[13:19] <grifo74> thanks
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> grifo74  but you don't have to wiat that long: then next lts is in april
[13:20] <dsathe> auronandace:  which mode ?
[13:20] <dsathe> as in in which screen
[13:20] <dsathe> F1,F2 etc
[13:20] <auronandace> dsathe: the default
[13:21] <auronandace> dsathe: basically, we are checking to see they are muted
[13:21] <meerkats> how do I activate upnp for my router?
[13:21] <iceroot> meerkats: read the manual from your router
[13:21] <auronandace> dsathe: if you see MM that means they are muted (regardless how high the bar is)
[13:22] <dsathe> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2012-01-26_18_50_11-yfwhskUX.png
[13:22] <elbrinke> Hello: for some reason my symbolic link does not work: "sudo ln -s /home/umoya/Downloads/Sankore /usr/bin/sankore"
[13:22] <elbrinke> any help
[13:22] <zadeo> hello ppl
[13:23] <auronandace> dsathe: that looks fine, is there a next page?
[13:24] <dsathe> only beep
[13:24] <dsathe> that seems ok to me
[13:24] <dsathe> alsa is reading it so is pulse
[13:24] <dsathe> but no sound
[13:24] <dsathe> incedently its a 2.1 but pulse is offering only a 4.1 and 5.1
[13:25] <never2far> can someone tell me whre i can find iptables file in ubuntu 11.10
[13:25] <never2far> i see some rules with iptables-save but i can't find a file related to it
[13:25] <auronandace> dsathe: i'm not sure what to suggest next (no experience with usb speakers)
[13:25] <dsathe> auronandace:  http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2012-01-26_18_54_18-57bKQnU6.png now i have switched to the bose audip
[13:25] <imi> hi
[13:26] <elbrinke> any help with symbolic links in 11.04
[13:26] <dsathe> cool no worries thansk for your time :)
[13:26] <imi> what this means: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[13:26] <Pici> imi: it likely means that you're using apt-get upgrade when you should be using apt-get dist-upgrade.
[13:26] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | imi
[13:26] <auronandace> dsathe: at least you know that they aren't muted :)
[13:27] <imi> !upgrade
[13:27] <Pici> imi: a dist-upgrade will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu.
[13:28] <imi> I've used these enstructions to upgrade my ubuntu
[13:28] <Pici> imi: What command are you using?
[13:29] <imi> right now I've been using apt-get update
[13:29] <imi> but right now I'm on my already upgraded ubuntu
[13:29] <Pici> imi: You need to use apt-get dist-upgrade.
[13:29] <Guest79628> !list
[13:29] <imi> for what reason if I'm not upgrading right now?
[13:29] <elbrinke> How do you add a .bin file in the Unity launcher bar for quick launching
[13:30] <JoshR1> Hello, I have a question for those who may know.
[13:30] <subb1> hi. I just installed lucid on my laptop. Usually the NIC should be auto detected and should be able to connect to the internet right? But now the indicator shows no connection available?
[13:30] <bazhang> JoshR1, which is?
[13:30] <auronandace> elbrinke: .bin?
[13:30] <elbrinke> yes, i mean a binary file
[13:31] <bazhang> elbrinke, what package
[13:31] <subb1>  NB: new user to linux :)
[13:31] <Pici> imi: "apt-get update" only refreshes the package lists, it will never update any packages that you have installed. To properly keep your system up to date, you need to use apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[13:31] <elbrinke> Im working on Sankore
[13:31] <imi> pici: well I've used apt-get upgrade
[13:31] <elbrinke> and am trying to run the run.sh.x file which is a binary file
[13:32] <imi> not just update
[13:32] <subb1> please help troubleshoot. thanks.
[13:32] <Pici> imi: You need to use that *AND* dist-upgrade.
[13:32] <elbrinke> when i run the binary file by double clicking it starts up
[13:32] <JoshR1> I installed mysql-server through apt-get last night.  I was then having trouble with the my.cnf file so I removed through apt-get and deleted the .cnf files (deleted etc/mysql/) and now I get an error when installing mysql the same way again.
[13:32] <imi> Pici: but why if I don't upgrading my distro?
[13:32] <elbrinke> but when i try to start it using a app launcher it does not start up..
[13:32] <ignerious> how to install java7 in ubuntu 11.10
[13:32] <Pici> imi: Because dist-upgrade is not for upgrading your distro.
[13:33] <imi> dist-upgrade is not for upgrading distro???
[13:33] <Pici> imi: how many times do I need to say it?
[13:33] <LjL> imi: no, it's not.
[13:33] <elbrinke> any ideas? I'm running Sankore ion Ubuntu 11.04
[13:33] <auronandace> imi: no, pici explained that to you more than once
[13:34] <bazhang> elbrinke, what is that
[13:34] <imi> thanks. the name confused me. dist-upgrade
[13:34] <imi> but I see now in the man page
[13:34] <LjL> imi: it's historical. it *used* to be a useful tool for upgrading Debian
[13:34] <LjL> imi: but with Ubuntu, you upgrade in other ways, and dist-upgrade is useful to keep your *packages* up to date.
[13:35] <ignerious> how to install java7 in ubuntu 11.10
[13:35] <elbrinke> Sankore is an OpenSourse Interactive Whiteboard Software solution
[13:35] <LjL> !java | ignerious
[13:35] <jatt> ignerious: download the tar.gz file, extract, adjust JAVA_HOME, done.
[13:35] <subb1> the problem is wired ethernet is not being detected automatically.
[13:36] <elbrinke> It's part of the project I'm working on.. but for some reason ubuntu gives me struggles
[13:37] <bazhang> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/sankore#installation   elbrinke can you read French?
[13:38] <bazhang> subb1, whats the nic
[13:38] <subb1> bazhang, its Atheros Communications AR8152 v1.1 Fast Ethernet
[13:39] <subb1> here is the lspci out > http://paste.ubuntu.com/817625/
[13:40] <inveratulo> bazhang, elbrinke, google translate to the rescue: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fsankore%23installation
[13:40] <DaniG2k> guys i crashed my precise pangolin system with an update yesterday
[13:40] <iceroot> DaniG2k: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <DaniG2k> I think there was a bug with X
[13:40] <elbrinke> thanks
[13:40] <iceroot> DaniG2k: dont use alpha software if you dont like crashes
[13:40] <DaniG2k> I don't mind crashes
[13:40] <DaniG2k> I just need a hand fixing it
[13:40] <iceroot> DaniG2k: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <DaniG2k> I've booted into an Ubuntu livecd
[13:40] <Chucky_Luciano> hi, can someone help me compile a program from source?  i am just having trouble understanding what it is that i have to do, the directions are on the page but i am having trouble understanding them...  i pasted them here  http://pastebin.com/LdqEtvJy
[13:41] <DaniG2k> and chrooted into the system
[13:41] <DaniG2k> when I try doing an apt-get update though
[13:41] <DaniG2k> I get errors
[13:41] <iceroot> DaniG2k: again! join #ubuntu+1
[13:41] <DaniG2k> such as
[13:41] <DaniG2k> ko
[13:41] <DaniG2k> ok
[13:41] <subb1> bazhang, is it that the network hardware is new and lucid has no driver?
[13:41] <iceroot> DaniG2k: 12.04 is not supported here
[13:42] <DaniG2k> alright
[13:42] <bazhang> subb1, just a moment please
[13:42] <subb1> bazhang, ok... thanks !
[13:43] <elbrinke> I have tried those versions but they are old versions of Sankore.. the new version of it is in the form of a tar.gz file called " Open-Sankore.tar.gz
[13:44] <shajeershamras> its
[13:44] <shajeershamras> it says wireless firmware missing....how i can resolve this problem
[13:45] <bazhang> http://ospa.arvat.org/ethernet-atheros/  subb1 please note you will need to install build-essential to follow this guide
[13:46] <bazhang> elbrinke, is there some problem with the older versions? they install correctly yes?
[13:46] <krised> Anyone running remastersys ? Im told by the admin that his repo is up but i cant connect to it using synaptic.
[13:46] <bazhang> krised, got the link?
[13:46] <elbrinke> they install… yes and they work, but does not support some of the features and widgets we require
[13:47] <krised> I get this error after trying to update the list after adding the server: Could not retrive http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'main/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[13:47] <bazhang> elbrinke, then unpack and follow the install instructions, there should be a file called 'Readme" there
[13:47] <LjL> some key on my keyboard must be stuck. i keep seeing "[C" on the terminal. any guess what key it might be based on that?
[13:47] <subb1> bazhang, thanks a lot, let me check since I have the driver now. BBIF !
[13:48] <CaptAnon> Hello guys, I was wondering is there any linux based phone, Can debian be run on a smart phone?
[13:48] <LjL> !ot | CaptAnon
[13:48] <elbrinke> the Open-Sankore.tar.gz file is already compiled and has a run.sh script that you have to run start Sankore app
[13:48] <bazhang> CaptAnon, thats not really on topic for here, please try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:48] <elbrinke> she i run the "run.sh" script Sankore starts up fine
[13:48] <elbrinke> but i need to put a shortcut in the unity luancher
[13:49] <oneliner> actually it is; there are some tablets/phone reportedly able to run ubuntu
[13:49] <DaniG2k> my DNS is not able to resolve addresses
[13:49] <DaniG2k> how can I fix this?
[13:49] <CaptAnon> Sure, sorry for the interruption guys.
[13:49] <krised> bazhang any clue to what might be wrong ? I need remastersys as its the only program i can find which lets me turn an installed running ubuntu back into a iso
[13:50] <bazhang> krised, got a link where the repo is listed? ie the web page for instance
[13:50] <krised> hang on
[13:51] <mBison> hey i have a question, its about lunx but about my hardware
[13:51] <jatt> lunx?
[13:51] <mBison> Ok Linux
[13:51] <jatt> ohhhh
[13:51] <bazhang> mBison, ##hardware then
[13:52] <mBison> but its only happening in ubuntu
[13:52] <krised> bazhang http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html look at the bottom where it says "Synaptic method"
[13:52] <mBison> so do i ask here or there
[13:52] <bazhang> krised, ok
[13:52] <bazhang> mBison, ask away
[13:53] <mBison> ok in windows it says i have 3 gb ram, i only put a 2 gb ram chip in the other slot wont let you put anything in there, in ubuntu disk manager, it says i  am using a second (unknown to me)
[13:53] <mBison> SSD for ram (swap)
[13:54] <auronandace> mBison: you've just made no sense
[13:54] <mBison> i know i just read it
[13:54] <jatt> windows tell you you have 3GB ram? it must be a mistake
[13:54] <mBison> im on the floor but the laptop is way above me on the couch
[13:55] <mBison> linux says i have 3 gm ram also
[13:55] <mBison> 3gb ram also linux states
[13:55] <jatt> so?
[13:55] <LjL> mBison: 32bit or 64bit?
[13:55] <mBison> one of them if not both are lying to me
[13:55] <mBison> 32
[13:56] <iceroot> mBison: 32bit can only show ~3GB ram
[13:56] <mBison> i only have 1 slot to put ram in, it was a 2gm chip[
[13:56] <LjL> mBison: well that's normal then. with 32bit, you can have theoretically 4GB at most, in practice it will be less because of memory mapping. so 3gb makes sense.
[13:56] <LjL> mBison: so you're saying you should have *less* than 3gb?
[13:56] <mBison> yea
[13:56] <iceroot> mBison: impossible
[13:56] <jatt> if you put 2 and get 3 why complain?
[13:56] <iceroot> mBison: you put a 4gb inside on 32bit
[13:56] <mBison> i only put 2 gb chip in
[13:57] <auronandace> mBison: are you sure there is only one ram slot?
[13:57] <JWFoxJr> I have a 64 bit ubuntu workstation with 64bit java installed. I have a HP c7000 enclosure who's java based console will only run with 32 bit java. Can I install the 32 bit JDK side by side with the 64 bit? Will I need nsplugin wrapper to use the plugin?
[13:57] <auronandace> mBison: laptop or desktop?
[13:57] <mBison> the other is under the 1st one, but it doesnt allow u to put another chip
[13:57] <iceroot> mBison: what is the output of "free -m" and "cat /proc/meminfo'
[13:57] <mBison> laptop
[13:57] <auronandace> mBison: what laptop?
[13:58] <mBison> inspiron E1405
[13:58] <iceroot> mBison: we had cases where someone was with ssh on another machine an wondered why the commands showed different hardware then the local machine has
[13:58] <mBison> dell
[13:58] <iceroot> mBison: what is the output of "free -m" and "cat /proc/meminfo'
[13:58] <tteesstt> hello there
[13:58] <DJones> mBison: I've got a laptop at home which only has one slot for ram, the slot has 512Mb memory installed, but the laptop reports 1Gb of memory, somewhere, there must be ram on the motherboard or in a hidden slot
[13:58] <nepolean> how to run a file.php from terminal in linux ?
[13:58] <LjL> nepolean: php file.php
[13:58] <iceroot> nepolean: php file.php
[13:59] <mBison> total 3016
[13:59] <krised> bazhang did you find anything ? can you connect and download the latest remastersys ?
[13:59] <mBison> used 1450 free 15966
[13:59] <iceroot> !paste
[13:59] <iceroot> mBison: please the complete output directly from the sheöö
[13:59] <iceroot> shell
[13:59] <auronandace> mBison: some laptops have one slot under the keyboard and another on the bottom
[13:59] <bazhang> krised, sorry, was busy, checking now
[13:59] <krised> thanks.
[14:00] <mBison> how do i put out from term here
[14:00] <jatt> !pastebin
[14:00] <lindsche> hey, someone here who could me help with an ati graphics card?
[14:00] <jatt> I have an ati graphics card and it sucks in ubuntu
[14:00] <nepolean> LjL iceroot but if the shell connection is terminated . the file will stop. i want to run it forever. how can i do it. i have a vps. and ssh root acces
[14:00] <meerkats> how do I activate upnp for my router?
[14:00] <didi2a> salut suis-je au bonne endroit pour chercher de l'aide pour samba pdc avec openldap ?
[14:01] <lindsche> :) also a x1300 mobility perhaps?
[14:01] <iceroot> nepolean: screen is one way
[14:01] <Anon> #
[14:01] <Anon> hello
[14:01] <bazhang> deb http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu oneiric main    <---- krised you added that, right?
[14:01] <iceroot> !screen | nepolean
[14:01] <krised> bazhang yes.
[14:01] <iceroot> bazhang: the repo from then is down
[14:01] <jatt> no it is a Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[14:01] <LjL> nepolean: you may want to put it in crontab
[14:01] <iceroot> bazhang: it will give you 403 and 404
[14:02] <nepolean> iceroot if i use screen. it will run even the ssh connection is terminated?
[14:02] <krised> iceroot i wrote in the forum (at remastersys) and the admin replied telling me its up.
[14:02] <nepolean> LjL yes . cront tab is better idea
[14:02] <iceroot> nepolean: yes
[14:02] <bazhang> iceroot, thanks for checking
[14:02] <iceroot> krised: then open it in your browser to see
[14:02] <mBison> so 32 bit computer can onl see 3gb memory?
[14:02] <LjL> mBison: or thereabouts.
[14:02] <nepolean> LjL how can i run  file.php after 5 mins from now ?
[14:02] <nepolean> LjL in crontab.
[14:02] <krised> iceroot i have already when i asked you yesterday but the admin tells me its up so what to do ?
[14:02] <lindsche> i tried to install the radeon driver, but that didn't work out... does anyone have a workaround for the ati mobility graphic cards, that would allow accelaration?
[14:03] <didi2a> salut suis-je au bonne endroit pour chercher de l'aide pour samba pdc avec openldap ?
[14:03] <iceroot> krised: what should i say? if it is down what you want us to do?
[14:03] <mBison> man i should have gotten the hp g6 laptop, it was better, i dont think ubuntu is using my graphic card at all
[14:03] <`Marcus> What's the difference between "useradd" and "adduser"?
[14:03] <iceroot> krised: should we say, its up when it is down?
[14:03] <mBison> it states unknown, even tho i got drivers for it
[14:03] <LjL> nepolean: crontab doesn't support "x time from now", you need to give a specific time. "man 5 crontab" will give you the format
[14:04] <krised> iceroot i understand. Its just bothing me that the admin tells me its up. I thought maybe its not supposed to allow web access.
[14:04] <mBison> 945 gm intel express family
[14:04] <nepolean> LjL ok.
[14:04] <iceroot> krised: 403 yes, but 404 means its down
[14:04] <nepolean> LjL i though nohup will do the same ?
[14:04] <jatt> !fr | didi2a
[14:04] <LjL> nepolean: if you look at /etc/crontab it will give you some entries you could copy
[14:04] <krised> iceroot ah ok thanks.
[14:04] <shajeershamras> @nepolean hi
[14:04] <shajeershamras> nepolian hi
[14:04] <LjL> nepolean: not the same as crontab, crontab is for running stuff at specified times (useful also for running them again in case they've stopped)
[14:05] <shajeershamras> #didi2a
[14:05] <iceroot> krised: i dont see anything we can do about that issue, sorry
[14:05] <edheldil> `Marcus:  adduser ask questions, useradd user options. I prefer the latter, as there's also usermod, userdel, groupmod, ...
[14:05] <mBison> is that common for intel 945gm express family graphic cards to show as unknown in sys info?
[14:05] <mBison> Ubuntu 11.10
[14:05] <edheldil> useradd useS options
[14:05] <shajeershamras> wireless firmware missing....how i can  identify the rite firmware and how to install?
[14:06] <krised> iceroot yeah i know. thanks for helping though. I just wish i could get my hands on latest remastersys
[14:06] <nepolean> LjL i see. but nohup php file.php & will also do the required thing ?
[14:06] <nepolean> shajeershamras hi
[14:06] <LjL> nepolean: yes, it should
[14:06] <JWFoxJr> Multipart question - http://paste.ubuntu.com/817663/
[14:07] <shajeershamras> how to resolve the firmware missing problem
[14:07] <auronandace> !here | JWFoxJr
[14:07] <LjL> shajeershamras: i'm not experienced with wireless, but you should specify what card you're using at least for people to answer
[14:07] <shajeershamras> i think its from broadcom
[14:08] <Ziad> hello i need some help with intalling ubuntu on a mac
[14:08] <auronandace> !mac | Ziad
[14:08] <jatt> JWFoxJr: is this a joke? why use pastebin to ask a simple question?
[14:09] <OerHeks> jatt no, that is the channel policy, do not paste multiple lines
[14:09] <JWFoxJr> jatt: well, I thought since I asked once and immediately was told to use the paste I did.
[14:09] <skilz> I got Number of screens does not match number of detected devices configuration failed
[14:10] <auronandace> OerHeks: he could have asked it on one line here, check his paste
[14:10] <nepolean> LjL can you tel the command to see processes ?
[14:10] <jatt> yep one line would suffice
[14:10] <JWFoxJr> auronandace: I did ask on one line
[14:10] <LjL> OerHeks, jatt: don't *paste* multiple lines, yes, but questions themselves should be asked in the channel. if it takes more than one line because of non-pasted details, so be it.
[14:10] <LjL> nepolean: ps aux or top
[14:10] <OerHeks> auronandace, i read it now, it is quite short.
[14:10] <JWFoxJr> auronandace: scroll back about 15 minutes
[14:11] <nepolean> LjL
[14:12] <pwork> Hello, I ve a problem with dbus and utmp on oneiric : I manage to get in single user, then gnome-session-fallback crashes, telling me dbus is not accessible
[14:12] <`Marcus> How do I add users to "/etc/sudoers"? I am already in visudo
[14:12] <pwork> Any idea ? I just migrated from natty
[14:12] <Guest95169> bazhang, here?
[14:12] <LjL> `Marcus: generally it's not necessary. just "adduser username admin" to make a user able to use sudo
[14:13] <`Marcus> LjL: I want to remove them right after though
[14:13] <LjL> `Marcus: "deluser username admin" will remove them
[14:13] <`Marcus> Will that delete their admin rights or their account?
[14:13] <JWFoxJr> auronandace: sorry to inconvenience everyone. I was just trying to use good netiquette. I'll go find my answers elsewhere. Doesn't exactly give me a feeling of "community"
[14:13] <LjL> `Marcus: only their admin rights
[14:14] <`Marcus> Okay
[14:14] <LjL> `Marcus: if you type "deluser username", though (without the "admin"), that will delete the whole user
[14:14] <`Marcus> Oh, okay
[14:14] <auronandace> JWFoxJr: people will chip in if they know the answer, i have no experience of java sorry
[14:14] <sub__> hi
[14:16] <Pici> JWFoxJr: Please don't take one person's responses to generalize on the rest of the community.  You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well though, they might have a better clue.
[14:16] <JWFoxJr> auronandace: Sorry if I've been a douche - just trying so sick of companies that can't write ubiquitous java apps. I mean that was the point of Java
[14:18] <xsl> anyone has SMC GB network cards running on ubuntu 10.04?
[14:19] <iceroot> !anyone | xsl
[14:20] <`Marcus> I don't understand this, what's the difference between Ubuntu 11.04 without a GUI and Ubuntu Server 11.04?
[14:20] <iceroot> `Marcus: can you remove the `?
[14:20] <xsl> i need to know if SMC GB network card runs on ubuntu 10.04
[14:21] <`Marcus> iceroot: I can change to _Marcus, I don't own the account "Marcus" as it's already taken
[14:21] <iceroot> `Marcus: server edition = ubuntu without a gui but with pae kernel, everything else is not usiing pae as default kernel
[14:21] <iceroot> `Marcus: but ` is not nice on qwertz
[14:21] <xsl> because i have a realtek (r8169) that keeps getting IRQ interrupts
[14:21] <LjL> _Marcus: best if you do Marcus_ or Marcus`, to make it easy for people to tab-complete it. anyway, you need to leave and rejoin the channel when you change your nickname, while connected from freenode's webchat
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> xsl  start here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-361236-p-2.html
[14:22] <_Marcus> LjL: Just did
[14:24] <_Marcus> LjL: The closest thing I can be to "Marcus_" is "Marcus___"
[14:25] <DarthCaeduces> What is a way wherein a signal can be sent via the local area network wifi exclusively
[14:25] <LjL> _Marcus: well it's your choice anyway, just a matter of making it easier for people to reply to you
[14:26] <geekbri> Does anybody know now that sun java is no longer in the partner repo, a good up to date PPA or other apt-get repository to pull it from?
[14:26] <JWFoxJr> auronandace: I found a solution - easiest thing to do is just set up a 32 bit Ubuntu VM with VirtualBox
[14:26] <iceroot> geekbri: there are no repos with java anymore
[14:26] <auronandace> JWFoxJr: good idea
[14:26] <iceroot> geekbri: its not allowed to provide java so you have to go to oracle.com
[14:27] <iceroot> geekbri: or better, dont use sun/oracle java but openjdk
[14:27] <geekbri> iceroot: yeah unfortunately there are things I have that don't run properly on the openjdk :(
[14:28] <_Marcus> Wait, I can't get Java with apt-get or anything now?
[14:28] <LjL> _Marcus: no, Oracle doesn't allow that anymore.
[14:28] <_Marcus> Why?
[14:29] <LjL> _Marcus: ask them :) unfortunately it's their product and they can license it the way they want...
[14:29] <auronandace> _Marcus: ask oracle (licence issues)
[14:29] <iceroot> _Marcus: because oracle is evil like apple
[14:29] <iceroot> _Marcus: they dont allow to distribute java
[14:29] <iceroot> _Marcus: so its best not using such bad software like sun-java
[14:30] <glenn> what is not working with openjdk?
[14:31] <CaptAnon> Some times the sound stops working on the computer?
[14:31] <CaptAnon> Any Ideas
[14:32] <_Marcus> I see no advantage in not allowing it in the repos.
[14:32] <Ziad> when will ubuntu 11.10 come out?
[14:32] <mbeierl> _Marcus, it's not Canonical that does not allow it, it's Oracle
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> _Marcus  go and tell them :)
[14:32] <_Marcus> mbeierl: I know
[14:33] <_Marcus> MoneyDust: I will :P
[14:33] <_Marcus> MonkeyDust*
[14:33] <meerkats> I need help to allow inbound yacy connections, it seems this firestarter config is not correct, I need help http://imagebin.org/195622
[14:33] <meerkats> port 8090
[14:33] <Otacon22Uni> Why does exist /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps  but does not exist /proc/sys/net/ipv6/tcp_timestamps ?
[14:33] <DJones> Ziad: It came out on October 2011
[14:33] <iceroot> can anyone name me the reason why "deja-dup" is pulling "libgnome-control-center1"? i dont see a reason why that is needed
[14:34] <Pici> iceroot: Its listed as a dependency.
[14:34] <iceroot> Pici: my question is "why it is listed"
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> Otacon22Uni  so why are there timestamps for IPv4 but not for IPv6, you're asking?
[14:35] <Ziad> ok i was readinthe ubuntu wiki and i think my macbook will only work with ubuntu 10.10. where can i find it?
[14:35] <iceroot> Pici: i dont see anything in libgnome-control-center1 which is needed by deja-dup
[14:35] <CharminTheMoose> How can I insert Ascii codes with nano?
[14:35] <Pici> iceroot: Probably because its a tool designed for GNOME. Perhaps it creates an entry in the gnome-control-center?
[14:35] <ts2> iceroot: because it's build with GNOME integration, probably
[14:35] <Otacon22Uni> MonkeyDust, yes, but they are TCP timestamps
[14:35] <Otacon22Uni> they prevent sequence number overlapping
[14:35] <iceroot> Pici: ts2 ah ok, yes that makes sense
[14:35] <Otacon22Uni> I don't understand why that option does not exists for ipv6
[14:36] <airtonix> iceroot: it appears in the gnome-control-center.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Otacon22Uni  i think that's beyond this channel, try #network
[14:36] <Otacon22Uni> k thx
[14:36] <iceroot> airtonix: which is not availbe on lubuntu :)
[14:36] <Ziad> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[14:36] <Pici> Otacon22Uni, MonkeyDust: Its ##networking ;)
[14:36] <nivyaj> i have a question. My friend wrote a program for linux- but I don't know where to install it on my computer. Is there a "best practice " place to install studd
[14:36] <airtonix> iceroot: deja-dup cares not
[14:36] <Ziad> sorry
[14:36] <nivyaj> i have a question. My friend wrote a program for linux- but I don't know where to install it on my computer. Is there a "best practice " place to install stuff
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Pici  "#network Channel is open." :)
[14:36] <iceroot> airtonix: but me .) but i guess there is no better way
[14:37] <ts2> nivyaj: usually in /usr/local/
[14:37] <airtonix> iceroot: yes there is.
[14:37] <LjL> MonkeyDust: yes, it's also, empty.
[14:37] <mbeierl> nivyaj, if it's not a system program, I would recommend creating a directory in your home and add that to your path
[14:37] <nivyaj> ts2:  I thought I shouldn't touch /usr
[14:37] <airtonix> iceroot: use grsync to an external drive which uses zfs (via zfs fuse)
[14:37] <LjL> nivyaj: /usr/local is an exception though. but it's also valid to keep it in your home.
[14:38] <airtonix> iceroot: or just use zfs
[14:38] <nivyaj> LjL: home is where it lists the user on my computer. That's cool?
[14:38] <DJones> Ziad: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ But bear in mind that it will reach its end of life in April 2012 and won't be updated after that
[14:38] <mbeierl> Ziad, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[14:38] <LjL> nivyaj: i mean the directory /home/yourusername (which can be shortened to ~/). you might want to make a "bin" directory inside it, but that's not strictly necessary.
[14:39] <mbeierl> DJones, sorry - lag here I guess :)
[14:39] <LjL> nivyaj: but if you want other users to be able to use the program too, then /usr/local it is (like /usr/local/bin)
[14:39] <iceroot> airtonix: deja-dup is fine, its using pgp by default and so on. the main problem i see is that all the programs are tested with gnome but when you dont have gnome they pull so much (in that case not needed) stuff
[14:39] <iceroot> airtonix: i bet grsync is pulling gnome-things too which i dont need
[14:39] <Ziad> mbeierl: will the new release support my old mac?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Ziad  ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:40] <Ziad> i really want ubutu but it seems the new release don't work on mine
[14:40] <Ziad> hmmm
[14:40] <nivyaj> LjL: got it.
[14:40] <airtonix> iceroot: i don't know i just use the awesomeness of gnome-shell and all it's godly super powers.
[14:40] <nivyaj> thanks :)
[14:40] <mbeierl> Ziad, I don't know.  If the macbook is ppc, and not intel chip, then I believe not
[14:40] <iceroot> Ziad: try a live-ced to find out
[14:40] <ignerious> how to install java7 in ubuntu 11.10
[14:40] <Ziad> its intel
[14:40] <ignerious> how to install java7 in ubuntu 11.10
[14:40] <airtonix> ignerious: with paitence
[14:40] <ignerious> how to install java7 in ubuntu 11.10
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| ignerious
[14:41] <iceroot> !info openjdk-7-jre
[14:41] <auronandace> ignerious: stop repeating
[14:41] <bohique> pinche
[14:41] <iceroot> ignerious: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[14:41] <airtonix> !pm > ignerious
[14:41] <iceroot> airtonix: never tried that one, directly switching to lxde
[14:41] <iceroot> airtonix: but i guess HUD will bring me back on unity
[14:41] <aethelrick> Ziad, I'm sure you've been asked this loads... but why replace OSX with Ubuntu on a Mac? I'm pretty sure that there are some significant Apple-ish bits on the Mac that are not supported by Ubuntu (cooling comes to mind)
[14:42] <nivyaj> LjL: can you remind me again- why shouldn't i touch the usr directory (save this excep0tion?)
[14:43] <mBison> ??
[14:43] <ignerious> not open java
[14:43] <airtonix> Ziad: you're going to have a horrible time with  : wifi, gpu and cooling with ubuntu on latest macbooks
[14:43] <iceroot> ignerious: then go to oracle.com and download it
[14:43] <ignerious> oracle java
[14:43] <iceroot> ignerious: thats the only way
[14:43] <didi2a> please i need help for my server samba openldap
[14:44] <iceroot> !details | didi2a
[14:44] <ignerious> i already downloaded it
[14:44] <iceroot> didi2a: also see #samba and #openldap
[14:44] <didi2a> thx
[14:44] <ignerious> i already downloaded it
[14:44] <aethelrick> nivyaj, /usr contains a number of system files that are managed by ubuntu. The exceptions are things in "local" places like /usr/local/bin etc because they are specifically put aside for use by you :)
[14:44] <ignerious> how to configure it
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> ignerious  http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[14:45] <_Marcus> There, sent Oracle an email. They probably wont care, but I'm happy  now.
[14:46] <aethelrick> nivyaj, that's what the "local" indicates... in /usr/local means... "made here" the package manager won't drop off anything there and break what you have, the converse is true... if you mess with things under system control, don't be surprised when your changes are overwritten
[14:46] <LjL> nivyaj: because it's handled by the package manager
[14:46] <LjL> nivyaj: you don't want to interfere with it
[14:46] <ignerious> in this page it has shown three of it file to configure
[14:47] <ignerious> in this page it has shown three of it file to configure
[14:48] <nivyaj> LjL: ahh, that's good stuff right there.
[14:48] <nivyaj> aethelrick: gotcha
[14:48] <nivyaj> thanks guys :)
[14:48] <blocky> if I'd rather not boot from a cd or a usb key, is it difficult to install ubuntu from within my existing fedora system? I also have win7
[14:48] <Ziad> #ubuntu+1 only discusses 12.04
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> ignerious  maybe this is more useful http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[14:49] <Ziad> why is there no 11.10 supported for mac?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> Ziad  i guess there's just too little people who want or need it
[14:51] <Ziad> 11.10? the latest ubuntu?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> on mac
[14:52] <Ziad> what a shame
[14:52] <Ziad> i thought ubuntu works everywhere
[14:52] <_Marcus> Not on Macs apparently.
[14:53] <LjL> Ziad: well you didn't say whether the Mac is PPC, but PPC machines are legacy by now
[14:53] <xsl> Hi, to disable ACPI completely i need to put on my /etc/defaults/grub acpi=off on  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ( Ubuntu 10.04 )
[14:53] <Ziad> i have intel
[14:53] <didi2a> I have a problem with my server samba + openldap I can not integrate my xp to domain "the controller could not be contacting"
[14:53] <xsl> is that correct?
[14:53] <OerHeks> Ziad, there is a mac 64 bit version >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/ ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[14:54] <Ziad> let me try it
[14:54] <mBison> ??
[14:54] <Ziad> i was trying to install the 32-bit one i don' undertsad the difference
[14:55] <Sairon> where does generally messages written to stderr end up?
[14:57] <hrdcorE> hello all
[14:58] <edheldil> Sairon:  on a terminal?
[14:58] <cordoval> how to fix npviewer.bin out of control of flash plugin on a 64-bit?
[14:58] <cordoval> any hints on how to fix this mess?
[14:58] <cordoval> I killed npviewer.bin but now i don't have flash
[14:58] <cordoval> how to uninstall it and install the right one
[14:59] <cordoval> for 64 bit that does not use  npviewer.bin ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !info npviewer
[15:02] <Sairon> don't seem to get much on the terminal :\
[15:02] <passeride> is 12.04 stable_
[15:02] <passeride> ?
[15:02] <Diyar> Try useing " Online Accounts" but in time click on create show me this error ?   Error creating account  error getting a request token: SSL handshak failed
[15:02] <passeride> anyone?
[15:02] <LjL> passeride: no
[15:02] <passeride> damn
[15:02] <Diyar> trying *
[15:02] <passeride> how unstable?
[15:03] <Pici> passeride: see #ubuntu+1
[15:03] <Calinou> passeride: "unstable" is often a definition
[15:03] <Calinou> not an actual state :P
[15:03] <Calinou> a ****ton of "unstable" stuff is actually stable and works fine
[15:03] <JWFoxJr> passeride: I think it's either still Alpha 1 or Alpha 2
[15:03] <LjL> Calinou: until it breaks. there's no guarantee that 12.04 won't break at any time.
[15:04] <Calinou> I know
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> "i'm immortal until i die"
[15:04] <JWFoxJr> If I wanted to go to vanilla ubuntu to xubuntu without reinstalling, would the easiest way be through tasksel?
[15:04] <abbazia> ciao a tutti
[15:04] <JWFoxJr> I meant go from, then to
[15:04] <LjL> JWFoxJr: why not just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[15:05] <Youssef_KH> hello
[15:05] <_Marcus> Hello abbazia
[15:05] <iceroot> !purexfce | JWFoxJr
[15:05] <JWFoxJr> LjL: I suppose I could - would I then just remove gnome-shell and ubuntu-desktop
[15:05] <iceroot> JWFoxJr: no use what ubottu told you to remove gnome
[15:06] <CaptAnon> Question, Does ssh -X11 opens up a gui and then the same thing happens on both computers?
[15:06] <meerkats> is there a firestarter irc?
[15:06] <iceroot> CaptAnon: no
[15:07] <iceroot> !alis | meerkats
[15:07] <JWFoxJr> iceroot: will do - lets blow some S%&* up. LOL
[15:07] <CaptAnon> Is it possible to control GUI programs remotely ?
[15:07] <chiiiiiz> hello!
[15:07] <iceroot> CaptAnon: vnc
[15:07] <chiiiiiz> Can anyone help me out with user 's management rights?
[15:08] <iceroot> CaptAnon: or teamviewer, everything else is using a different session then the one you see oon the remote system
[15:08] <JWFoxJr> brb - have to switch to a terminal program that *won't* be uninstalled.
[15:08] <mBison> how do i check to see if my computer has the right drivers for my graphic card?
[15:08] <chiiiiiz> I have 2 users, and I would like to share mounts between these 2, but I want them to have the same rights on the content
[15:08] <cordoval> hmm
[15:08] <chiiiiiz> how do I do that with fstab?
[15:08] <iceroot> CaptAnon: put them in the same group
[15:08] <iceroot> CaptAnon: wrong nick
[15:08] <iceroot> chiiiiiz: put them in the same group
[15:10] <chiiiiiz> iceroot: I have for each user a group with the user's name (one group fred, and one group nath). I must add fred to the group nath, and nath o the group fred?
[15:11] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz, add both users to a group called "funky" or anything you like and then make sure that group has permissions you require
[15:11] <mBison> how do i check to see if my computer has the right drivers for my graphic card? ubuntu 11.10
[15:11] <nivyaj> when I get an instruction like this --------"Download sbt-launch.jar and place it in ~/bin. " they mean  I should put it in  /home/yourusername/makeABinDirectory
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> mBison  try lshw -C display
[15:12] <aethelrick> nivyaj, that's one way to do it :) basically they want you to make sure the file is in your path so it can be easily run
[15:12] <mBison> ok
[15:14] <nivyaj> aethelrick:  thanks :)... This website describes the file structure of linux... it's a little old, but has the file structure changed much? http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[15:15] <aethelrick> nivyaj, just glanced at it... it looks familiar and roughly right to my eye :)
[15:15] <mBison> MonkeyDust: it doesnt state the driver
[15:15] <chiiiiiz_> aethelrick: shall I change the owner, or only the rights (shall I user chown or chmod)?
[15:16] <chiiiiiz_> How sahll I say give rwx rights to any member of the group funky on the folder 'files'?
[15:16] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:17] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:17] <_cb> can i put /opt on a separate drive ?
[15:17] <ekaleido> yes
[15:17] <auronandace> mBison: what is the output of: lspci | grep vga
[15:17] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:17] <mBison> MonkeyDust: driver is i915 for Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics
[15:18] <_cb> Actually question should be how do I put /opt on a separate drive?
[15:18] <ikonia> _cb: why do you want to ?
[15:18] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:18] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz_, chmod
[15:18] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:19] <nivyaj> aethelrick: cool. thanks :)
[15:19] <ignerious> how to use update-alternative recursiveley to link all files to bin
[15:19] <_cb> ikonia the system I am installing keeps all data in /opt so I want to have OS on 1 logical volume (2 drives rad 10) and data on another logical volume (2 drives raid 10)
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| ignerious
[15:19] <aethelrick> nivyaj, you may want to look here for a more detailed explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[15:19] <auronandace> ignerious: link all files to bin?
[15:20] <CharminTheMoose> How can I insert Ascii codes with nano?
[15:20] <ikonia> _cb: just create a logical volume / partition, mount it, copy the data from /opt onto it, unmount it, update /etc/fstab, remove the data from the old /opt directory, reboot and your done
[15:21] <_cb> Ikonia, coll will try that. Thanks !
[15:21] <metadan> does anyone know if it's possible to get into a terminal during an ubuntu install?
[15:21] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz_, you doing this at mount time in fstab did you say?
[15:21] <nivyaj> aethelrick: oh, that's muuuuuch better. thanks
[15:21] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz_, and is this a local directory or a network share?
[15:21] <ikonia> _cb: really is that simple
[15:21] <ikonia> metadan: what for ?
[15:21] <metadan> I have the ubuntu 11.04 server install can't find /media/cdrom issue
[15:22] <ikonia> metadan: during the install it can't find /media/cdrom ?
[15:22] <metadan> yeah need to ln -s /cdrom /media/cdrom
[15:22] <ikonia> metadan: don't think you do
[15:22] <metadan> it's a known bug
[15:22] <_cb> ikonia I was trying to figure how to do it via manual partitions but your method is a lot easier. Thanks !
[15:22] <ikonia> metadan: under what circumstacnces
[15:22] <Yudra> can someone thats familiar with all the ubuntu flavors give me a PM, I dont wanna spam this channel too much with my onslaught of questions
[15:22] <metadan> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/726581
[15:22] <ikonia> metadan: if it's a known bug can you give me the bug id
[15:22] <ikonia> metadan: perfect, thank you
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Yudra  the purpose of this channel is: asking questions
[15:23] <S0NiC> hi
[15:23] <_Marcus> Hello
[15:24] <ikonia> metadan: just alt F2/F3 keys to get a terminal
[15:24] <metadan> ikonia: during the install?
[15:24] <ikonia> metadan: pretty much as soon as the kernel has booted for the installer
[15:24] <Yudra> MonkeyDust: ok then, im trying to get a highly customizable easy to work with environment, but not something thats semi broken (i had some serious issues with kubuntu because of the maun package manager)
[15:25] <metadan> ikonia: cheers i'll try it
[15:25] <ikonia> metadan: that should be enough time to get a terminal
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> Yudra  then try openbox
[15:26] <Yudra> MonkeyDust: is it capable of alot of eye candy like KDE4?
[15:27] <Yudra> I like KDE4, just not some of the preinstalled packages
[15:27] <alex88> hi guys, i've installed liboauth-php package, restarted server, but still no OAuth class available, any idea?
[15:27] <Sivik> I'm trying to remove a module using modprobe and it says its not in use but its there when I run lsmod
[15:27] <ozstriker> hello
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Yudra  Pinguy has a lot of eyecandy, but it's not supported here
[15:28] <Sivik> http://pastebin.com/Y0xz9JiE
[15:28] <saganbyte> hi there
[15:28] <saganbyte> I m having some trouble installing Ubuntu Server 10.04 on a netbook which has no CD ROM
[15:28] <saganbyte> I m using a USB
[15:29] <VictorCL> how can I count how many files with extention .php are inside a folder recursively¿
[15:29] <saganbyte> and the insstall fails at getting to a CD ROM
[15:29] <saganbyte> :(
[15:29] <Yudra> MonkeyDust: is there a way to install KDE without installing the whole desktop environment?
[15:29] <Sivik> saganbyte, did you follow the instructions on how to burn the iso onto a cd?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Yudra  can't say
[15:29] <saganbyte> Sivik, i m using a USB
[15:29] <saganbyte> Sivik, there is no CD ROM drive on my netbook
[15:29] <aethelrick> Yudra, KDE _is_ the K Desktop Environment
[15:29] <auronandace> Yudra: what? kde is the desktop environment
[15:29] <Sivik> saganbyte, did you follow the burn instructions to usb from the ubuntu site?
[15:29] <Yudra> oh lol
[15:29] <mneptok> VictorCL: ls -Rl /path/to/files | grep php | wc -l
[15:30] <Sivik> saganbyte, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download step 2
[15:30] <xangua> !minimal
[15:30] <xangua> Yudra: you could try the Minimal cd and then Try to install just the stuff you need
[15:30] <metadan> ikonia: looks all good - thanks for the help
[15:30] <VictorCL> ok thanks
[15:30] <ikonia> metadan: nice job
[15:30] <saganbyte> Sivik, that makes sense... coz i had used unetbootin
[15:30] <saganbyte> Sivik, thanks!
[15:30] <Yudra> xangua: i have that CD, but it still installes the packagemanager and screws it up
[15:31] <mBison> is i915 the right driver for Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics?
[15:31] <aethelrick> Sivik, what is your goal? if you need to run a KDE specific package... it may work with minimal requirements under another desktop
[15:31] <Sivik> saganbyte, try those instructions.  I have used them before.
[15:31] <Sivik> aethelrick, its nothing to do with a GUI
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> mBison  rather ask that in #hardware
[15:32] <Sivik> I'm trying to remove r8169 module for the network to use the r8168 driver instead
[15:32] <xangua> Yudra: well you never said exactly what is wrong with the package manager
[15:32] <Sivik> I can load the r8168, but not unload the r8169
[15:32] <mBison> i thought this was ubuntu
[15:32] <Sivik> r8169 is the wrong module to be used and thus causing my network issue
[15:32] <Sivik> aethelrick, not a KDE/GUI issue
[15:32] <aethelrick> Sivik, sorry... named you by mistake, I meant Yudra
[15:32] <Sivik> aethelrick, oh ok, I was like, kde is not involved.
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> mBison  in #ubuntu-offtopic, you'll find hardware geeks right now
[15:33] <Yudra> xangua: i think its a known bug, but it screws up the dpkg and then i cant use it at all
[15:33] <metadan> ikonia: hmmm, no fails again same thing
[15:33] <metadan> ikonia: if i ls /media/cdrom it sees the cd files
[15:33] <Yudra> it freeses when updating and/or installing new packages.....so it litterally is pointless
[15:34] <Sivik> awesome, no one seems to be able to help me
[15:34] <aethelrick> Yudra, what is your goal? if you need to run a KDE specific package... it may work with minimal requirements under another desktop
[15:34] <CaptAnon> Does alsamixer work over ssh?
[15:34] <ededdy> Sivik: blacklist the one you don
[15:34] <Sivik> ededdy, how do you blacklist it?
[15:34] <ededdy> Sivik: read :-)
[15:34] <respond> all.. can i make own distro with ubuntu, such.. am need make acehrespond.iso
[15:34] <aethelrick> Sivik, have you tried "installing" the module then removing it... thus modprobe... followed by a modprobe -r
[15:34] <Sivik> aethelrick, yes, thats where it won't remove it, after I installed the new one
[15:34] <Yudra> aethelrick: to use Kubuntu as a normal operating system as a replacement for an OS not to be mentioned
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> respond  there are about 150 ubuntu forks
[15:35] <respond> MonkeyDust, 150 ubuntu forks ? what that mean >..
[15:35] <aethelrick> Sivik, I mean... modprobe r8169 then modprobe -r r8169
[15:35] <aethelrick> Sivik, then try to install your new module r8168
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> respond  about 150 distros based on ubuntu
[15:36] <metadan> ikonia: could i use mnt or something?
[15:36] <ikonia> metadan: sorry, I missed the question,
[15:36] <respond> MonkeyDust, so... that aviable you mean. am can used own distro based on ubuntu...
[15:36] <metadan> ikonia: it failed - took longer than i thought - same thing, even though i'd linked cdrom to media/cdrom
[15:36] <CaptAnon> Does alsamixer work over ssh?
[15:37] <respond> MonkeyDust, but can i used diferent style for new distro ? some application maybe.
[15:37] <metadan> ikonia: so instead of symlinking could i mount it there?
[15:38] <aethelrick> Yudra, if you want kubuntu... install it... do you have a problem stopping you from doing this? or do you not know how? (please help me to help you)
[15:38] <ikonia> metadan: no
[15:38] <metadan> ikonia: cool
[15:38] <auronandace> respond: why do you need to make a ubuntu based distro?
[15:38] <ikonia> metadan: if the symlink doesn't work, mounting won't
[15:38] <ikonia> metadan: if you did ls -la /cdrom you could see the files correctly ?
[15:39] <Yudra> aethelrick: ok, how do i install Kubuntu without installing muon?
[15:39] <metadan> ikonia: yep
[15:39] <respond> auronandace, am need used ubuntu with my langue, atjeh
[15:39] <ikonia> metadan: update the bug then
[15:39] <LjL> Yudra: why can't you install kubuntu-desktop and then remove muon later? (besides, what harm does having muon installed cause?)
[15:39] <ikonia> metadan: sounds like more info is needed to be fed into
[15:39] <metadan> ikonia: ok will do - thanks again
[15:39] <Yudra> LjL: the first update breaks dpkg
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> respond  try Remastersys http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=406.0
[15:40] <ikonia> metadan: sorry it didn't work for you
[15:40] <aethelrick> Yudra, does you computer already have ubuntu on it? if not, download a kubuntu CD and pop it in. If it does then simply "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal
[15:41] <LjL> Yudra: muon is a recommend, so you can install "kubuntu-desktop" without recommends, and then install all the *other* recommends
[15:41] <xangua> Yudra: you haven't even said the error, you just saids it may be a 'know bug'
[15:41] <respond> MonkeyDust, Remastersys that can include my service and my style to ???/ am have make learn folder at My Document
[15:41] <LjL> Yudra: "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install kubuntu-desktop"
[15:41] <aethelrick> Yudra, um... probably best to put a "sudo " in front of that command I gave you
[15:41] <respond> MonkeyDust, and am need shared that folder to on my new distro based from ubuntu ?
[15:42] <Yudra> aethelrick: it did, i had to reinstall something horribible, ill give it another go, and come back here once i start having the issue
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> respond  i'm not famimiliar with it or skilled enough, explore the possibilities a bit to find out
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> familiar*
[15:42] <respond> MonkeyDust, what need am explore
[15:43] <respond> MonkeyDust, yes... i know you not familiar about remaster of ubuntu for make new distro. but did you can give me some ref maybe for explore that..
[15:44] <t0ken> so...when do we get the fix for the /proc/mem vuln on oneiric?
[15:44] <pwork> Hello, I'm about to install a fresh Oneiric on an older Natty LVM partition table. /boot is on sda1, / is on sda2. I m following the install wizard from the Live CD, but I can't tell sda2 is LUKS/LVM. If I choose ext2 orso, I guess I'll loose the VG and data. Could you tell me how to reuse a LVM partition ?
[15:44] <rr> hello
[15:47] <LjL> MonkeyDust: err, asking whether a given ubuntu driver is the correct one for a given card does belong here.
[15:47] <aethelrick> pwork, are you using the alternate cd?
[15:48] <_cb> I just installed ubuntu server to one logical drive. How do I mount and format the second drive?
[15:49] <chiiiiiz> aethelrick: your solution rocks!!!
[15:49] <chiiiiiz> Only 1 problem: the new files created by one user o the other after the mount belong to each user specifically
[15:49] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz, glad to help :)
[15:50] <mBison> #ubuntu-offtopic and ##hardware said they are not a support channel
[15:50] <Mrokii> Can somebody explain to me why Update Manager wants do deinstall Banshee, Cairo-Dock, gimp and a few other apps when I try to install Midori? Does that make any sense?
[15:50] <chiiiiiz> How can I tell that any new file will belong to the group funcky? I guess it is a gid problem...
[15:51] <mBison> MonkeyDust: #ubuntu-offtopic and ##hardware said they are not a support channel
[15:51] <LjL> mBison: google seems to confirm the driver is i915
[15:51] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz, you can set the setgid bit on the directory... e.g. chmod g+s /your/dir and the files will be in the right group by default (when created)
[15:51] <mBison> do i can run compiz now?
[15:52] <xangua> Mrokii: it would make sence you share the output instead of especting us to guess ;)
[15:52] <chiiiiiz> chmod g+s /my/dir... where do I specify the group the new files must belong to?
[15:53] <Mrokii> xangua: What output?
[15:53] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz, you set that permission on the directory... then files made in that directory inherit the directories group
[15:53] <xangua> Mrokii: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:53] <aethelrick> chiiiiiz, thus chgrp on the directory to get a "default" group set (which I think you already did)
[15:54] <respond> what desktop for ubuntu we can do... such kde, gnome, and what more...
[15:54] <auronandace> respond: xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[15:54] <xangua> respond: xfce, lxde and any light window manager you want
[15:55] <xangua> ooh forgot E :3
[15:55] <chiiiiiz> aethelrick: I did, and then specified some mount --bind in my fstab for both users... so now both users have full rights on the existing files (I did it recursively ).. only remained the newly created files
[15:55] <respond> auronandace, what you recomendation for me am used old pc, and am not love gui
[15:55] <respond> or am need easy gui for my ubuntu what you recomen, auronandace and xangua
[15:55] <chiiiiiz> you did the thing, and I understood these ownership things... first time someone says it clear!! double thanks
[15:56] <xangua> respond: anything you want ;)
[15:56] <auronandace> respond: xfce is my favourite, lxde is best for very old hardware
[15:56] <respond> auronandace, thanks i will try to find it
[15:58] <hypno> is there something special that needs to be done in order to grant X-login for other users?
[15:58] <hypno> for some reason, when i try to login as another user i just added, the screen just flickers and i'm returned to the first login page again.
[15:59] <Mrokii> xangua: Oops, sorry, I didn't mean Update-Manager, I meant Synaptic. I was just trying to install Midori and Synaptic wanted to remove a bunch of other apps totally unrelated to Midori.
[15:59] <imbezol> hypno: can you log in as that user on a virtual terminal?
[15:59] <hypno> imbezol: yes.
[15:59] <spiiph> Hi. I'm on oneiric, and I can't seem get my .Xresources to be parsed with xrdb. Can someone tell me how Ubuntu handles loading of x session scripts?
[15:59] <hypno> imbezol: assuming you are meaning a standard tty and not X. ssh login works as well, so does X hosting. but logging in through gdm (or whatever ubuntu uses) do not for some reason.
[16:00] <imbezol> hypno: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[16:00] <imbezol> hypno: you could also look for ~/.xsession-errors
[16:00] <hypno> imbezol: ah. 2 secs.
[16:02] <Genius> Hola
[16:03] <Genius> buenos días alguien podria ayudarme
[16:03] <Mrokii> So the real question is: Why does *Synaptic* want to remove things like Banshee, Cairo-Dock, desktopcouch, gimp, gwibber, lots of libs, and even software-center just to be able to install Midori. Doesn't make any sense to me.
[16:04] <auronandace> Mrokii: midori? the browser?
[16:04] <Genius> help
[16:04] <xangua> Mrokii: then try: sudp apt-get install midori
[16:04] <imbezol> Genius: try speaking in english
[16:04] <LjL> !es | Genius
[16:04] <Mrokii> auronandace: Yep.
[16:04] <Genius> no
[16:05] <auronandace> Mrokii: it shouldn't need to remove anything
[16:05] <Genius> ok gracias
[16:05] <Mrokii> auronandace: That's what I thought.
[16:05] <sanitree> hi all. having a problem with my ssh keys on ubuntu server 11.10: If I log in to my Ubuntu server it asks for a password instead of taking my key. If I then try log in a second time with the initial ssh session still running, the ubuntu box logs me in with my ssh key
[16:05] <sanitree> if i turn off password auth, it doesn't let me log on at all
[16:05] <sanitree> any ideas?
[16:05] <satty> installed ubuntu 11.10, but whenever power go, system says battery is critically low and it shut down abruptly
[16:06] <_cb> If I mount a drive onto the opt folder than anything written to the opt folder is actually written to the drive, correct?
[16:06] <hypno> imbezol: ah, found it. thanks. :)
[16:06] <imbezol> sanitree: does it ask for the ssh key password, or the server password?
[16:06] <sanitree> server password
[16:07] <sanitree> for troubleshooting this i setup a new key without a passphrase
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> sanitree  to log in  you mean?
[16:07] <sanitree> to log into the remote ubuntu box via ssh yes
[16:07] <imbezol> sanitree: what are the permissions on ~ and ~/.ssh ?
[16:07] <AndyUbuntu1> afternoon everyone :)
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> login needs a password, or what am i missing
[16:08] <AndyUbuntu1> Does anyone know if it is possible to add titles to a video using PiTiVi?
[16:08] <imbezol> sanitree: other users should not be able to enter your ~/.ssh directory or write to it
[16:08] <gplikespie> hey people does anyone know what a good c++ program with a compiler is?
[16:08] <sanitree> permissions are  700 for both ~ and ~/.ssh
[16:08] <AndyUbuntu1> would be awesome if i could :P
[16:09] <imbezol> sanitree: anything in the logs? that's very odd
[16:09] <sanitree> i had a quick glance but couldn't see anything
[16:09] <sanitree> is there a specific log i should be looking at?
[16:10] <imbezol> sanitree: probably your /var/log/auth.log, but take a look at syslog too
[16:10] <imbezol> sanitree: when the user is denied access, something should get written there
[16:11] <Mrokii> xangua: There seems to be something wrong, as I get an "unmet dependencies"-error, regarding libwebkitgtk. And trying to reinstall it isn't working. Very strange.
[16:11] <xangua> Mrokii: what ubuntu version are you using¿
[16:12] <Mrokii> xangua: 11.10
[16:12] <Autokilled> hello
[16:12] <Autokilled> how to install ubuntu from windows
[16:12] <Autokilled> withou cd/usb
[16:12] <sanitree> ok, ill turn off password auth and then try loggin in with a key
[16:12] <sanitree> brb
[16:13] <xangua> Mrokii: tried the Fix option for apt¿ sudo apt-get install -f
[16:13] <xangua> Autokilled: ubuntu.com tells you how with Wubi, but i preffer a real install
[16:13] <shaneo> hey guys im getting this wierd error on boot ata_id 221 HDIO_get_identity failed to get I915 signal failed /dev/sdb
[16:14] <Mrokii> xangua: Yep, but that didn't change anything. Despite getting a "broken package"-message at some point, there does not really seem to be a broken package anywhere.
[16:15] <spiiph> Trying again: Does anyone know what's responsible for setting up X in ubuntu? /etc/X11/Xsession doesn't seem to be it, and although scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d are loaded, some variables necessary for e.g. 30x11-common_xresourses do not seem to be set.
[16:17] <mossman_> hello can anybody give a tip about networking?
[16:17] <shaneo> omg so many joins
[16:17] <shaneo> mossman_ ??
[16:17] <Pumpkin-> mossman_: ##networking might be better, but if its a ubuntu related networking question, ask away.
[16:18] <Autokilled> if i have free space/direcctor
[16:18] <Autokilled> unformated
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  type /ignore +joins to hide it
[16:18] <Autokilled> and wanna to install ubuntu with wubi
[16:18] <mossman_> wifi works well in house but i can't find IP address of AP to change essid
[16:18] <Autokilled> to it
[16:19] <shaneo> mossman_ what kind of router is it
[16:19] <Diyar> Is this server iq.archive.ubuntu.com/ in side Iraq ? or out side iraq?
[16:19] <_Marcus> I am trying to access this folder, but it says I'm not allowed to as I don't have the right privileges. I tried using sudo, but it said "cd" isn't a valid command with sudo
[16:19] <_Marcus> What should I do?
[16:19] <ikonia> _Marcus: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[16:19] <_Marcus> Access a folder
[16:19] <_Marcus> With cd
[16:20] <mossman_> echolife, everything works well, DHCP range is from 100-254 (router is number 1)
[16:20] <ikonia> _Marcus: which folder
[16:20] <bobweaver> Hello there I have a server running ubuntu 11.10 and can not update or install anything ever sence I hooked it up to a staic line. It is giving me the error  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)  . What do I do ? Thanks for your time
[16:20] <shaneo> mossman_ do ifconfig should give you your ap's ip
[16:21] <xafarder> hi
[16:21] <LjL> Diyar: doesn't seem to actually be in Iraq
[16:21] <ikonia> bobweaver: look at your dns settings
[16:21] <paolo1> o
[16:21] <_Marcus> ikonia: etc/ircd-hybrid
[16:21] <paolo1> o
[16:21] <shaneo> oops sorry
[16:21] <xafarder> anyone know if there are some server like Megaupload active?
[16:21] <ikonia> _Marcus: ok - so for that I'd chmod the directory to have better permissions
[16:21] <xafarder> with content to download
[16:21] <ikonia> xafarder: nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:21] <Mrokii> There is something strange with Synaptic anyway. For a long time now it shows me the message "1 update has been selected. 2kB will be downloaded". But the window in which the updates are list is empty. I receive regular updates as usual, but even when I update them all, the mentioned message is still there.
[16:21] <xafarder> ikonia, sorry but
[16:21] <bobweaver> ikonia: /etc/hosts ? /etc/hostnames ?
[16:21] <ikonia> bobweaver: /etc/resolv.conf
[16:21] <ikonia> xafarder: no buts, nothing to do with ubuntu, so not for this channel
[16:21] <xafarder> where can i ask then
[16:22] <_Marcus> xafarder: I saw one, it allows you to upload anything you want, no legal restrictions. It was owned by Yahoo Inc.
[16:22] <xafarder> well thanks _Marcus
[16:22] <mossman_> ifconfig shows me the IP of the modem...
[16:22] <shaneo> yeah that was my mistake sorry
[16:23] <shaneo> some isp's block you from changing your essid
[16:23] <shaneo> so make sure they wont first before you even bother
[16:23] <bobweaver> ikonia:  there are 4 lines 2 are ipaddress and one is domain  other is search ? what should I be altering or commenting out ?
[16:23] <shaneo> everytime i change my essid and pasword to the router they change it again
[16:24] <ikonia> bobweaver: nothing - those are your dns servers, for some reason they are not working / responding to you
[16:24] <dst502> Heya, quick question -- does Ubuntu One still sync if I don't use Unity? I have installed fluxbox (from the repositories)
[16:24] <mossman_> they wouldn't even know because the modem goes into a switch, then into another router
[16:24] <_Marcus> ikonia: What should i chmod it? I don't want 777, because everyone would have access.
[16:24] <ikonia> bobweaver: could be you are on the wrong network, they are unavailable, could be anything, but the issue is you cannot use them
[16:24] <LjL> shaneo: get your own router then. it seems very bad policy to have a fixed password for customers :\
[16:24] <ikonia> _Marcus: something that allows your user access
[16:24] <shaneo> LjL no kidding the password is only 8 digits
[16:25] <shaneo> and its sooooooo easy
[16:26] <_cb> Is opt typically ext 4?
[16:26] <paradoxlord> kind of an odd question but what kernel does Ubuntu use?
[16:26] <Tinned_Tuna> paradoxlord: it uses a Linux Kernel
[16:26] <shaneo> so guys does anyone know what this error means ata_id 221 HDIO_get_identity failed to get I915 signal failed /dev/sdb
[16:27] <shaneo> paradoxlord 3.0.0.15 right now
[16:27] <Tinned_Tuna> paradoxlord: on mine, it's 3.0.0-14
[16:27] <paradoxlord> thank you'
[16:27] <Defense|Twin> Hi, I have a problem with my ubuntu and pulseaudio. I would like to use pulseaudio with the output 'Digital Surround (IEC958)' (Toslink) but pavucontrol offers only 'Digital Stereo (IEC958)'. Does anybody know why there is no option for surround sound?
[16:27] <bobweaver> ikonia:  it use to be dhcp . My question for you good sir is when it was dhcp could it have "left" it there and now it is not able to connect to the last one that it was connected to? is that how relov works ?
[16:28] <_Marcus> ikonia: I set it to 774 and I still cannot access it
[16:28] <whoever> hi all, I have googled and can not get an answer , what is the escape key good for now a days, other then taking up keyboard realastate ?
[16:28] <shaneo> whoever depend what you do with a keyboard
[16:29] <shaneo> i use esc to back out of configurations in psybnc
[16:29] <bentkus> irssi uses it for escape chracters, special keys
[16:29] <shaneo> and theres a million other good reasons to have one
[16:29] <bobweaver> !resolv.conf >> bobweaver
[16:30] <Tinned_Tuna> whoever: starting flame wars.
[16:30] <shaneo> whoever but you can take yours off ur keyboard then youll find out what its good for when you dont have one
[16:30] <xarlyl> jhjklh
[16:30] <xarlyl> hola
[16:31] <dryliketoast> o/
[16:32] <raheel> how to install google chrome via terminal?
[16:33] <LjL> raheel: why don't you install Chromium? it's almost the same as Chrome, it's open source, and it's in the repos.
[16:33] <shaneo> how do i allow software manager to install un authenticated security packages
[16:33] <LjL> raheel: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:33] <LjL> shaneo: why are they unauthenticated? are they coming from Ubuntu's security repo?
[16:33] <shaneo> yes
[16:34] <shaneo> libicu44
[16:34] <LjL> !gpgerr | shaneo, they should be authenticated
[16:34] <shaneo> international components for unicode
[16:35] <whoever> shaneo: it used to be use to quit  and now it seems to do nothing
[16:35] <shaneo> still quits youtube videos
[16:36] <deitarion> Is there any way to either blank out the "Recently Used" list in the open dialog WITHOUT disabling individual application MRU lists or to disable them on a per-application basis?
[16:37] <deitarion> ...or is my only option to grab the source tarballs and neuter MRU functionality in any GTK+ application I might use to view adult content?
[16:37] <shaneo> LjL: Err http://security.ubuntu.com oneiric-security Release.gpg
[16:37] <shaneo>   Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[16:38] <juho> recorder in upuntu linux??
[16:38] <juho> *best recorder*
[16:38] <bobweaver> shaneo: lol I am dealing with the same thing
[16:38] <duelle> juho: What do you want to record?
[16:38] <Pici> shaneo: Have you changed your DNS settings recently?
[16:38] <juho> ok
[16:38] <shaneo> nope
[16:39] <juho> u stupid
[16:39] <Pici> shaneo: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf please?
[16:39] <shaneo> ok
[16:39] <Pici> juho: insults aren't necessary here.
[16:41] <LjL> shaneo: uhm, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:41] <nichos> Would some one please provide me a link to a quick and dirty means to customize GNOME 3 with the level of granularity available to previous versions?
[16:42] <shaneo> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817840/
[16:42] <chaospsychex> does anyone know how to DISABLE a touchpad on a laptop? does it use a kernel module?
[16:42] <mcriddles> hey guys
[16:42] <mcriddles> can someone help me?
[16:42] <nichos> Fire away. No need to ask to ask. :)
[16:42] <chaospsychex> mcriddles: with?
[16:43] <shaneo> LjL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/817842/
[16:43] <ekaleido> if you actually ask a question, it is possible someone can help :)
[16:43] <mcriddles> alright then :)
[16:43] <html> hi
[16:43] <nichos> hi
[16:43] <mcriddles> well, i'm trying to "open with.." an application
[16:43] <mcriddles> the trouble is, the application is not on the list
[16:43] <chaospsychex> lol
[16:43] <mcriddles> nor in the "other applications" that are suggested
[16:43] <mcriddles> (yes, i'm new to linux)
[16:43] <chaospsychex> mcriddles: what application would u like to use to open the file?
[16:44] <mcriddles> i mean, it's really simple, i wanna use Sublime Text 2 to open up a text document
[16:44] <Pici> shaneo: How about the output of: dig ubuntu.com
[16:44] <chaospsychex> mcriddles: hit ALT-F2 and type in the application name
[16:44] <html> mcriddles,  welcome to lunix/ubuntu
[16:44] <chaospsychex> mcriddles: auto-complete should help u finish entering it in, then u can open the file from within the app
[16:45] <shaneo> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817846/
[16:45] <juho> So what is the best recording program upuntus
[16:45] <ozstriker> sto seguendo questa guida  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Webcam/Microdia  e ha un errore in compilazione non trova una directory ,è un hama ac-150 / http://paste.ubuntu.com/817798/
[16:45] <mcriddles> yes, that i know, i'm trying to set the application as the default app, though
[16:45] <shaneo> kazan screencaster
[16:45] <auronandace> !best | juho
[16:45] <mcriddles> for this file type
[16:45] <kamil> POWITAC niewitanych Panowie i Panie :D
[16:45] <shaneo> juho: *kazam
[16:45] <Mrokii> mcriddles: You could also install Ubuntu-Tweak. It should let you change the standard-apps for specific filetypes (amongst a bunch of other things).
[16:45] <html> mcriddles,  what do you need?
[16:45] <Zzzssss> hi ..
[16:46] <Pici> shaneo: hmm...
[16:46] <Zzzssss> which channel is for PHP ?
[16:46] <chaospsychex> mcriddles: SYSTEM>PREFERENCES>Preferred Applications
[16:46] <html> Zzzssss, hi
[16:46] <pangolin> kamil: English please
[16:46] <Zzzssss> hi html.. PHP channel ?
[16:46] <shaneo> Pici: Yeah this happens alot
[16:46] <juho> Tank you
[16:47] <pangolin> Zzzssss: ##php
[16:47] <Zzzssss> btw, i am disabling expose=off in php.ini file but its not getting disable, what could be reason ?
[16:47] <mcriddles> Mrokii, that sounds like a good idea
[16:47] <Pici> shaneo: How about dig security.ubuntu.com ?
[16:48] <mcriddles> html, i'm trying to set an application as a default for opening text files, but the application is not in the "preferred applications" list
[16:48] <vindolin> sublime2 for linux?!?! ^_^
[16:48] <vindolin> thanks mcriddles!
[16:48] <mcriddles> huh? what?
[16:48] <mcriddles> what did i do?
[16:48] <pablor> ubuntu spanish?
[16:48] <pangolin> pablor: #ubuntu-es
[16:48] <shaneo> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817851/
[16:48] <pablor> ok thanks
[16:49] <html> mcriddles,  you simply add it to the list, find the file, then right click ,
[16:49] <mcriddles> vildolin, you're welcome?.. i guess....? :P
[16:49] <auronandace> mcriddles: if the app you are trying to use is a windows one installed in wine i'mnot sure it would appear in that list
[16:49] <ozstriker> sto seguendo questa guida  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Webcam/Microdia  e ha un errore in compilazione non trova una directory ,è un hama ac-150 / http://paste.ubuntu.com/817798/
[16:50] <mcriddles> html, that's the problem, i can only add items that are listed, and mine is unlisted
[16:50] <pangolin> !it | ozstriker
[16:50] <Seryth> Is it possible to find out the RPM of my drive from terminal?
[16:50] <CaptAnon> Greetings again gentlemen, Is there an equivalent to rythmbox-client for and video players like vlc?
[16:50] <juho> ubuntu-tweak no communication
[16:50] <CaptAnon> I suppose are they just called clients?
[16:50] <Pici> shaneo: Hrm.. This should JustWork.
[16:51] <mcriddles> auronandace, i don't even have wine, and my application (Sublime Text 2), doesn't even need an installation
[16:51] <html> mcriddles,  we need a snapshot  of what your talkin about, then pastebin
[16:51] <shaneo> ill paste you the results of apt-get
[16:51] <Pici> shaneo: sounds good
[16:51] <mcriddles> html, i can't take a snapshot of something that doesn't exist.. :)
[16:51] <shaneo> Pici: just dont know if it will help but ...
[16:51] <jonh> anonymous deface fbi site -> http://imgchili.com/show/4392/4392629_british81.jpg
[16:51] <supNow> I have an issue where my display randomly goes fuzzy. I'm running ubuntu 11.10 Duel Boot on a mac Anyone know of a fix?
[16:52] <Seryth> CaptAnon: Many. Banshee, audacious, parole are all examples of music players. For video players: VLC, Movie player, Parole, mplayer, and tons more.
[16:52] <html> mcriddles,  yes you can ,
[16:52] <Mrokii> juho: What's the problem with Ubuntu Tweak? I've used it for a long time without almost any complaint. It makes tweaking stuff a lot more easier, imho.
[16:53] <auronandace> mcriddles: i've never heard of sublime text 2, is it some sort of web app?
[16:53] <CaptAnon> Thanks Seryth  But I mean something that I can control over the command line
[16:53] <maxtmahem> is /etc/apt/sources.list.d a folder I can drop new source lists files into for them to automagially work?
[16:53] <mcriddles> no, it is a simple tool for opening text files
[16:53] <Seryth> CaptAnon: Ah. There are music players that do so, not sure about video players
[16:53] <html> jonh, dont post these links, its not even what your talkin about
[16:54] <mcriddles> auronandace, i simply want to open a textfile with something that is not in the "open with.." list.
[16:54] <auronandace> mcriddles: how did you install sublime text 2?
[16:54] <shaneo> maxtmahem: no but you can add sources to the file
[16:54] <bobweaver> mcriddles: press alt+f2 then enter  <name of program>  /path/to/file.txt
[16:54] <yairgo> this isn't ubuntu specific but, if I run `which git` the return value is /usr/bin/git, but if I run `git --version` the output is '-bash: /usr/local/bin/git: No such file or directory' this seems like a pathing issue, but how can the command `git` try to run from somewhere other than what `which git` returns?
[16:54] <mcriddles> auronandace, i didn't. it doesn't require an installation.
[16:54] <CaptAnon> Yes rhythmbox-client works well for music, But I would like to use video also
[16:55] <mcriddles> bobweaver, i want it to become the default application the file opens with.
[16:55] <Mrokii> mcriddles: I guess you already tried to add the app via the "add"-button in the file-information-window?
[16:55] <shaneo> CpatAnon: VLC would do it
[16:55] <bobweaver> mcriddles: open settings
[16:55] <auronandace> mcriddles: where did you get it from then?
[16:55] <mcriddles> Mrokii, i did.
[16:55] <bobweaver> mcriddles:  what is program ?
[16:55] <Pici> mcriddles: Yes, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a path that you can drop files into.
[16:55] <shaneo> omg apt-get is taking sooooooo long
[16:55] <Pici> mcriddles: sorry, wrong person.
[16:55] <mcriddles> from here - http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[16:56] <Pici> maxtmahem:  Yes, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a path that you can drop files into.
[16:56] <Mrokii> mcriddles: well, if that didn't help I'd rellay recommend trying Ubuntu Tweak.
[16:56] <mcriddles> Mrokii, thanks, i will try that.
[16:56] <CaptAnon> shaneo,  How do I do it with vlc??
[16:56] <asdasdasdasda> hello
[16:57] <bobweaver> mcriddles:  open terminal and type in : sudo  loacte sublime   what is the path ? then enter path into the default settings
[16:57] <bobweaver> mcriddles:  locate
[16:57] <bobweaver> sorry
[16:58] <mcriddles> alright, let's assume i already know the path to the app
[16:58] <shaneo> CaptAnon: you can setup telnet interfaces on VLC
[16:58] <asdasdasdasda> i have a problem with my ubuntu 11.10... i want to use dual monitor, but always if i activate it the window borders, the launcher and the task bar is not longer visible... my system: ubuntu 11.10 64 bit, geforce 330 m
[16:58] <CaptAnon> for rhythmbox it is simply rhythmbox-client
[16:58] <CaptAnon> What is it for vlc
[16:58] <shaneo> CaptAnon: Go to View > Add Interface > Telnet Interface
[16:59] <pangolin> mcriddles: the path is /whereyou/extracted/sublime_text
[16:59] <trkemist> I have a question everyone...
[16:59] <Lewis> Anyone active? Need some help with an install.
[16:59] <trkemist> I have 2 sound devices loaded, both alsamixer *and* pulseaudio
[16:59] <trkemist> is this correct?
[16:59] <html> mcriddles, http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t10.htm
[16:59] <infid> how can i find out what version of a package apt-get would install without installing it?
[16:59] <mcriddles> yes, pangolin, but what do i do with it?
[16:59] <shaneo> CaptAnon: youll need to know what port your vlc is broadcasting on and your ip
[16:59] <bastidrazor> infid: apt-cache policy packagename
[17:00] <bobweaver> mcriddles:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-gvim-as-default-text-editor-instead-of-gedit-on-ubuntu-11-10.html
[17:00] <Lewis> I'm trying to install from a USB stick to an N40L Microserver but for some reason it's failing to 'mount the CD-ROM' ?
[17:00] <infid> bastidrazor: the line in that that says 'candidate'?
[17:00] <pangolin> mcriddles: in the "open with" window there should be a input box you can enter the path into.
[17:00] <zykotick9> trkemist: pulse always requires ALSA, they are not the same thing
[17:00] <bastidrazor> infid: yes
[17:00] <trkemist> ok ... so basically I'll have 2 controls one for alsa and one for pulse?
[17:00] <trkemist> thats crazy
[17:00] <infid> bastidrazor: thanks
[17:00] <CaptAnon> shaneo,  Can I not just ssh and talk to it through the command line?
[17:00] <bastidrazor> infid: you're welcome.
[17:01] <juho> :D
[17:01] <shaneo> i dont know if it allows ssh
[17:01] <juho> ROLF
[17:01] <Pici> juho: Please try to stay on-topic here.
[17:01] <shaneo> CaptAnon: the only options i know of are web, telnet, debugging and mouse gestures
[17:02] <html> mcriddles, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[17:02] <juho> ok
[17:02] <pangolin> html: please stop throwing links at him.
[17:02] <shaneo> An error has occurred in the Pastebin software. Please notify the administrators.
[17:02] <pangolin> html: if you are not sure what to do then please don't do anything.
[17:02] <Lewis> My turn? :)
[17:03] <pangolin> Lewis: go ahead and ask, if someone knows they will probably help
[17:03] <Lewis> I'm trying to install from a USB stick to an N40L Microserver but for some reason it's failing to 'mount the CD-ROM' ?
[17:03] <black> hi all
[17:03] <html> pangolin, ok... i was goin to the documention  ,,
[17:03] <mcriddles> pangolin, there isn't such a box :X
[17:03] <pangolin> mcriddles: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[17:04] <CaptAnon> I got it shaneo  If i just open vlc from the command line I can control it there, Did not notice before.
[17:04] <mcriddles> 11.04, if i'm not mistaken
[17:04] <mcriddles> where can i check exactly?
[17:04] <pangolin> mcriddles: in terminal type: lsb_release -a
[17:04] <shaneo> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/817855/
[17:04] <black> how can i solve: i want to use dual monitor, but allways when i activate my second monitor all window borders, launcher and taskbar is not longer visible... i can only use the opened window and the desktop...  how can i solve my problem ?
[17:05] <mcriddles> 11.10
[17:05] <shaneo> CaptAnon: cool didnt know that either way better than crappy telnet
[17:05] <black> my system: ubuntu 11.10 64 bit, geforce 330 m
[17:05] <mcriddles> codename oneiric
[17:05] <mcriddles> if that's any help..
[17:05] <pangolin> mcriddles: give me a few minutes to load a VM so I can see what you are seeing.
[17:05] <shaneo> CaptAnon: also i put mine on web interface and use my xoom to control my nlc streams
[17:05] <mcriddles> i can paste a screenshot if it would make things easier?
[17:05] <shaneo> *vlc
[17:05] <pangolin> mcriddles: it might help yes.
[17:05] <mcriddles> alright
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Olá pessoal, estou com um problema com o Ubuntu com KDE [Kubuntu]
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Não consigo fazer meu modem 3G funcionar nele...
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Alguém sabe uma maneira de fazer funcionar?
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Meu modem é um ZTE.
[17:06] <FloodBot1> rodrigo-pc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Alguém aí?
[17:06] <rodrigo-pc> Estou no aguardo.
[17:06] <Pici> !br | rodrigo-pc
[17:06] <pangolin> !br | rodrigo-pc
[17:07] <rodrigo-pc> #kde
[17:07] <Telugodu_> what do u guys like? kde or gnome
[17:08] <auronandace> Telugodu_: xfce, do you need a hand with anything?
[17:08] <compdoc> I like gnome, but kde isnt horrible
[17:08] <Pici> shaneo: Looks like you have a few issues there.  Firstly, you're missing the gpg keys for your ppas. You can use: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key>    for getting them, where <key> is the last bit of the error message on lines 1-4.
[17:08] <Telugodu_> me too
[17:09] <CaptAnon> shaneo, Whats that?
[17:09] <episteme> anyone know what would cause this error message and how to fix? -bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error
[17:09] <Pici> shaneo: Secondly, you may want to check that the PPAs urls are correct.
[17:10] <shaneo> CaptAnon: Web Interface ??
[17:10] <mcriddles> i'm sorry, this Ubuntu system is seriously bugged
[17:10] <mcriddles> alright.
[17:10] <rooks> its EU-ACTA blocking petition, although US-ACTA failed them lawyers are pushing ACTA in other territories... sign pls https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet click pls, kthx
[17:10] <sipior> rooks: go away.
[17:11] <CaptAnon> shaneo,  any of what you said
[17:11] <floridsdorf> hi
[17:11] <rooks> sipior, do you support ACTA?
[17:11] <auronandace> mcriddles: you may want to try a more mature desktop environment (unity is rather new)
[17:11] <LjL> rooks: i'm sorry but this channel is strictly for Ubuntu support, this is not welcome here
[17:11] <sipior> rooks: this is decidedly off-topic for this channel. find somewhere else to be.
[17:12] <shaneo> CaptAnon: Well a xoom is my tablet and web interface allows vlc to be controlled over the web for things like streaming movies and what not
[17:12] <CaptAnon> shaneo, cool
[17:13] <shaneo> CaptAnon: yeah VLC has alot of good features def one of the best media players ever made
[17:14] <Pharaoh> Hello everyone.
[17:14] <ein-ya> cava
[17:14] <Ririshi> Hello
[17:14] <shaneo> hiya
[17:15] <mcriddles> pangolin, here is what i see - http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/971/openwitho.png
[17:15] <Pharaoh> How is everyone doing. What does Ubuntu have that Windows 7 doesn't?
[17:15] <shaneo> Pharoah: Please dont start that arguement
[17:15] <sipior> Pharaoh: try both and find out.
[17:15] <pangolin> mcriddles: you're not able to click on the Add button?
[17:15] <AOPS> im using SASL?
[17:16] <Pharaoh> I'm not starting an argument, I'd just like to know from someone who has prior experience.
[17:16] <nsd_> Hello
[17:16] <pangolin> Pharaoh: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please. this channel is for ubuntu support
[17:16] <Pici> AOPS: I think you want #freenode, not #ubuntu
[17:16] <mcriddles> pangolin: i am able to, but that would just add the selected item to the "chosen items" list
[17:16] <Pharaoh> Oh ok
[17:16] <mcriddles> which is completely useless to be.
[17:16] <mcriddles> to me*
[17:16] <shaneo> Pici: so i imported the gpg keys that were giving me errors and all is good
[17:17] <Pici> shaneo: good good :)
[17:17] <shaneo> so speaking of gpg keys can i use them to sign emails in thunderbird?
[17:17] <nsd_> In the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list, it was announced that back on the 17th Ubuntu 10.04 (LTS) was to switch from Firefox 3.6 to the latest version, as with the newer versions of Ubuntu. I have updated my systems but I have not gotten the newest version of Firefox, and I don't see another package appear in synaptic. Anyone know what's going on with this?
[17:18] <shaneo> nsd_: idk maybe you need the new repo im on firefox 10
[17:18] <nsd_> shaneo: Which new repo is that? Are you also using 10.04?
[17:18] <shaneo> 11.01
[17:18] <shaneo> *11.10
[17:18] <shaneo> i read it on omgubuntu ill find you a link
[17:19] <nsd_> shaneo: Let me re-read the e-mail first, you don't need to do that.
[17:19] <pangolin> mcriddles:  I'm not on Unity right now and it's going to be a while yet before I can start up the VM. I'm unable to help you further sorry.
[17:19] <shaneo> nsd_: also 10.0 is still in alpha
[17:20] <mcriddles> pangolin: it.s alright. so the UI i'm using is called "Unity"?
[17:20] <dlentz> nsd_, you need to enable lucid-proposed to get FF 9.0.1
[17:20] <nsd_> shaneo: I think you are confused, 10.04 is from April of 2010 and is a long term release support.
[17:20] <nsd_> *support release
[17:20] <pangolin> mcriddles: correct
[17:20] <auronandace> nsd_: i think he means firefox 10
[17:20] <shaneo> nsd_: so maybe its not updating cause its not stable
[17:20] <nsd_> auronandace: Oh lol
[17:21] <dlentz> nsd_, enable lucid-proposed in synaptic repo settings
[17:21] <nsd_> shaneo: No, no, they said in the e-mail that this was supposed to all happen automatically: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/FirefoxRapidReleaseMigration
[17:21] <shaneo> nsd_: http://nwlinux.com/install-firefox-10-ubuntu-linux-using-apt-get/
[17:21] <shaneo> nsd_: thats the new repo
[17:21] <mcriddles> pangolin, thank you very much, you have been much help :)
[17:22] <shaneo> nsd_: sometimes things arnt so automatic
[17:22] <nsd_> shaneo: That's not what I was after, but thanks anyway. (They're supposed to be pushing through the *stable* releases only)
[17:22] <dlentz> nsd_, when i checked a couple days ago, FF9 was still in proposed
[17:22] <shaneo> nsd_: no prob
[17:23] <Seryth> Is it possible to find out the RPM of my drive from terminal?
[17:23] <nsd_> dlentz: Oh okay, so they're just behind schedule. I'll just wait then.
[17:23] <nsd_> Seryth: I believe there is a tool to do that: hdparams or something like that maybe?
[17:23] <Seryth> nsd_: Ah, okay, ty
[17:24] <Seryth> !info hdparams
[17:24] <Seryth> :/
[17:24] <nsd_> D'oh
[17:24] <nsd_> Something like that
[17:24] <dlentz> hdparm
[17:24] <nsd_> Aha! knew it was something like that
[17:24] <Seryth> !info hdparm
[17:24] <Seryth> :D
[17:24] <Seryth> sweet, thanks nsd_, dlentz :)
[17:24] <nsd_> Seryth: No prob
[17:24] <Ririshi> I'm completely new to Linux. I'm going to install linux on my Windows 7 machine. Can I make a partition for installing it to within the installer?
[17:26] <zykotick9> Ririshi: yes, it will ask you to partition as one of the steps
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Ririshi  no, you need to have one available, but you *can* format it during installation
[17:26] <nsd_> Ririshi: Yes, there is a step specifically for that. It presents you with a number of options for partitioning
[17:26] <elkng> was popularity of ubuntu increased after SOPA ?
[17:26] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: what?
[17:26] <nsd_> MonkeyDust: Yeah, what?
[17:26] <nsd_> You can create a partition.
[17:26] <trkemist> I need a recommendation here guys I am not happy with this, but I cannot figure out how to use Skype or Google Voice Chat with my Machine using a USB Headset
[17:26] <nsd_> elkng: That's an interesting question, I don't know
[17:26] <trkemist> I'm having to use my android tablet which is silly
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> nsd_  zykotick9 not without dataloss
[17:26] <MarcoKZ> how do i make alt-tab NOT group same-program windows?
[17:26] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[17:27] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: what? (i'm not going to bother)
[17:27] <nsd_> MonkeyDust: Data loss only happens sometimes, but that is a good point.
[17:27] <nsd_> Ririshi: Make sure you back up your data first, partitioning can potentially cause data loss.
[17:27] <Ririshi> zykotick9,MonkeyDust,nsd_ thank you for your help
[17:27] <ThePendulum> I was trying to run programs from a hard disk but I couldn't mark it as executable because the disk was formatted in NTSF. To what format should I format my disk to allow executable programs?
[17:27] <Seryth> Ririshi: You may want to look at Wubi if you've not used Linux before. It installs Ubuntu like it was a windows program. You can choose it at boot. However, if you like it, I don't advise using Wubi permanetly, as if you mess something up you can't recover it...at least not very well.
[17:27] <Seryth> permanently*
[17:27] <urlin2u> elkng, sopa has been dropped
[17:28] <lelouch> mmm
[17:28] <Pici> !offtopic | elkng urlin2u
[17:28] <nsd_> ThePendulum: You have linux installed on an NTFS partition? If that's a problem, there is an option you can set in fstab that will make everything have the executable bit (I don't remember it off the top of my head)
[17:29] <nsd_> ThePendulum: See the mount and fstab man pages
[17:29] <urlin2u> Pici, lol thanks
[17:29] <ThePendulum> nsd_: Linux itself isn't, but I am trying to run software from another disk
[17:29] <MarcoKZ> anyone?
[17:29] <_cb> Having the unity app bar appear every time the mouse is on the left side of the screen is a pain. Any way to keep it hidden and have it appear only on demand?
[17:29] <xrt> Is there anyway any software that i can use to make a backup of the Data of all of my machines in the LAN (Most are windows and Mac)?
[17:29] <nsd_> ThePendulum: Oh, okay, Well same thing applies. Look at man pages for mount and fstab and I know there is a thing to fix that
[17:30] <ThePendulum> nsd_: Where can I find those pages?
[17:30] <Younos> hi, i'm on 10.11 and i want to allow remote x11 clients to my screen, i did xhosts + but the remote still says Can't open display: myhost:0.0
[17:30] <henrico> anybody from NY?
[17:30] <nsd_> ThePendulum: A man page means a manual page, and generally refers to one you get on the command line. Open a terminal and type 'man mount'.
[17:30] <nsd_> Or 'man fstab'.
[17:31] <dariebi> hi all, does somebody knew a software where i can overwrite my harddrive to make it really clear
[17:31] <nsd_> ThePendulum: I have to go, if you have any more questions you'll have to ask someone else, sorry.
[17:31] <ThePendulum> Alright
[17:31] <auronandace> dariebi: dd
[17:32] <ThePendulum> Thanks!
[17:32] <nsd_> You're welcome
[17:32] <henrico> anybody from NY here pvt me!!
[17:32] <kenta__> a
[17:32] <Pici> henrico: Theres #ubuntu-us-ny for the New York locoteam.
[17:32] <Sirijus> hello
[17:32] <kenta__> hello
[17:32] <jeagle> Hello!
[17:32] <Sirijus> can someone help me
[17:33] <zykotick9> !ask | Sirijus
[17:33] <Sirijus> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/rs.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:34] <econdudeawesome> howdy all! Got a question. What files can be removed from ~./local?
[17:34] <Sirijus> I have red sign right from my clock and it says E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/rs.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:34] <brianm> when making a deb that i would like to have be poertable across ubuntu and debian, what is the best way to start and stop services?
[17:35] <brianm> update-rc.d?
[17:35] <zykotick9> brianm: i'd just like to mention, ubuntu and debian should NOT be considered "compatible".  Packages shouldn't be intended for both... just saying (it might work, it's just not a good idea)
[17:36] <Sirijus> so noone can help me?
[17:36] <brianm> zykotick9 - trying to be lazy ;-)
[17:36] <MarcoKZ> how do i make alt-tab NOT group same-program windows?
[17:36] <zykotick9> Sirijus: does "sudo apt-get update" work from terminal?
[17:37] <Sirijus> its doing somthing zykotick9
[17:38] <Sirijus> yeeee
[17:38] <Sirijus> its done
[17:38] <Sirijus> thank you very much
[17:38] <Sirijus> LD
[17:38] <Sirijus> :D
[17:38] <connoisseur> I'm having poor sound quality even after installing restricted drivers and all in Ubuntu 11.10 can anybody help pls?
[17:38] <Mrokii> MarcoKZ: Not sure, but *maybe* this thread can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68151/how-do-i-revert-alt-tab-behavior-changed-in-11-10
[17:40] <cordyceps> How do I save playlists in audacious? After an update that option doesn't seem to exist in the menus.
[17:41] <Pascoal> cat /proc//mem
[17:42] <zykotick9> cordyceps: out of curiosity, what version of audacious are you using?  I certainly have save PL in 2.3.
[17:42] <justanotherbody> query: does anyone know of existing package repositories for 9.04 (jaunty) or 9.10 (karmic)?
[17:42] <zykotick9> !eol | justanotherbody
[17:43] <auronandace> justanotherbody: they are no longer supported here
[17:44] <PTBD> hello. is it normal that jdk7 comes with alot of jdk6 packages as dependencies?
[17:44] <psye> anonymous deface fbi site -> http://adf.ly/50eZt
[17:45] <cordyceps> zykotick9: 2.3?! According to File->About, I'm using 3.1.2
[17:45] <zykotick9> cordyceps: oh, that makes perfect sense.  Well, i can't help - good luck.
[17:46] <wifioregon> !ping
[17:49] <Kakita> hola gente de ubuntu
[17:49] <zykotick9> !es | Kakita
[17:50] <Kakita> hola gente de ubuntu necesito una ayudita
[17:51] <kezzawd> Hola
[17:51] <Kakita> hola kez
[17:51] <LjL> !es
[17:51] <tommy1> #haiku
[17:54] <farhad2161> who can download this http://filepost.com/files/f97ca8b6/No.Starch.The.Linux.Command.Line.Jan.2012.rar and give me a direct link?
[17:55] <bobo37773> farhad2161: Why can't you download it?
[17:55] <farhad2161> bobo37773: filepost is forbidden here :(
[17:56] <Pici> !piracy | farhad2161
[17:57] <bobo37773> farhad2161: What does it have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:57] <farhad2161> Pici: :(
[17:58] <Natti> hi
[17:58] <bobo37773> Natti: Hey
[17:58] <Natti> Could anyone help me with a problem I'm having?
[17:58] <bobo37773> Natti: Maybe. What is your problem?
[17:59] <farhad2161> bobo37773: it is just a reference for me, i need it
[17:59] <Natti> Trying to boot from a flash drive, but even though removable devices are the #1 in the boot priority list in BIOS, it still boots Windows instead.
[17:59] <Natti> I used the universal USB installer to make the flash drive installation
[17:59] <heinrich> ich kann nur deutsch
[17:59] <LjL> !de | heinrich
[18:00] <zykotick9> Natti: consult your motherboard manual, see if there is a "Boot selection menu" key on boot, on my EEE it's ESC, on my desktop it's F8
[18:00] <bobo37773> farhad2161: Don't download stuff from random sites. Use your head and search better. We are not allowed to discuss these things here. So, look on google and learn about bittorrent etc. Take care.
[18:00]  * Sparklz sits back for a while, and strokes his beard...
[18:00] <BussDriver> any thunderbird users here?  I'm using IMAP with gmail and I DON'T want thunderbird to download any mail.. I just want to view it on the server.   A) Is this possible? and B) If so, how can I accomplish this?
[18:00] <bobo37773> Natti: When your computer boots there are probably some options on the splash screen.
[18:01] <Natti> Yeah, I went to the BIOS setup and put removable devices as the preferred boot device from there
[18:01] <bobo37773> Natti: Maybe something like boot order etc.. I know the screen is probably quick so you might need to check a few times. Also, how did you create the flash drive?
[18:02] <Natti> Using this method: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[18:02] <zykotick9> Natti: your issue is not ubuntu related, perhaps ##hardware would be more help?
[18:02] <Natti> okay, thanks :)
[18:02] <urlin2u> BussDriver, not sure really but that defeats the reason to have it notify you.
[18:03] <bobo37773> Natti: Look at your biossplash screen when your computer boots. Even though you changed the order you might still have to select it.
[18:03] <Natti> hmm, thanks
[18:03] <BussDriver> urlin2u: Not sure what you mean.. perhaps I'm not being specific enough.  When I open thunderbird now, it goes through and says it's downloading all my folders... I can see it's taking up lots of space in ~/.thunderbird in my profile, too.  I thought this only happened if I used POP3... I simply want thunderbird to act as a 'view' into the server on gmail.
[18:03] <Natti> Okay, I'll try to reboot again, fiddle around and see if there's any more settings that could affect it
[18:03] <Natti> thanks guys
[18:04] <zykotick9> BussDriver: when i used Thunderbird it always downloaded, and the cache would be huge on local computer.  mutt doesn't have that issue ;)  Good luck, there is a Thunderbird IRC channel (on some other network).
[18:04] <bobo37773> Natti: ok good luck
[18:04] <BussDriver> zykotick9: Surely this is a bug then?  Isn't the whole point of IMAP NOT using your local drive for storage?
[18:04] <mbeierl> BussDriver, under the mail account settings, there is an option not to sync mail - to read only on server, not download
[18:05] <BussDriver> mbeierl: I didn't see that.. thanks.. I'll look again.
[18:06] <MerlynKorr> i am having some "glitch-like"issues with the kubuntu reinstall of version 11.04, and that os is as high up as i can take my system.
[18:06] <MerlynKorr> so i cannot get 11.10
[18:06] <urlin2u> BussDriver, not sure of the pop data transfer, I understood, I just don't have a definitive answer.
[18:06] <BussDriver> mbeierl: I don't see that option.. I see some stuff about selecting individual folders for syncing and some options about limiting syncing by age or size
[18:07] <MoDDD> hi all
[18:07] <mbeierl> BussDriver, might be different version then.  I have under Synchronization & Storage, at top a check box for Message Synchronizing that sets "Keep messages for this account on this computer"
[18:07] <MerlynKorr> what could be doen to get a fix/
[18:08] <BussDriver> mbeierl: Ah yes, there it is.  Ok, I've unchecked that.  Should it remove all those downloaded messages automatically then?
[18:08] <Oxymoron> Hi, I wonder, I get bash: binary cannot execute error. It worked once, but on reboot it didnt work anymore :S I am using Virtualbox. I think the problem is that Debian on Virtualbox is 32 bit and my host machine is 64 bit.
[18:08] <zykotick9> MerlynKorr: perhaps you could re-word your issue?  I have no idea what you mean, I imagine others might not either.
[18:09] <Oxymoron> Is it possible to recompile a 64 bit binary to 32 binary?
[18:09] <zykotick9> Oxymoron: when are you getting the "bash: binary cannot execute" error?  When you do what exactly?
[18:10] <MerlynKorr> my system acts like there is a virus, but i read somewhere that there arent those kinds of issues...
[18:10] <MerlynKorr> with these systems.
[18:10] <zykotick9> Oxymoron: and no, you can't recompile binaries (you could recompile source)
[18:10] <Oxymoron> zykotick9: it happens when I execute a binary file I compiled myself in a school lab thing.
[18:10] <bentkus> how does it act when there is a virus?
[18:10] <mbeierl> BussDriver, that I do not know.  But I think if you go into the .thunderbird directory and find/delete the indexes, etc it'll automatically do the right thing on next start of the app
[18:11] <Oxymoron> zykotick9: I have the source, but it doesnt seem to work recompile the source :S
[18:11] <bentkus> does it send millions of emails to unkown targets?
[18:11] <zykotick9> Oxymoron: so this is on Debian? you might be in the wrong channel
[18:11] <BussDriver> mbeierl: Sounds like a plan, thank you very much.
[18:11] <MerlynKorr> it is not oprerating without there being "glitches"...
[18:11] <mbeierl> BussDriver, welcome :)
[18:11] <MerlynKorr> for example...
[18:11] <zykotick9> Oxymoron: depending on version of Debian you are using check out ia32libs stuff.
[18:12] <MerlynKorr> one window went to the top of the screen and then went out of sight for a moment or two and then returned ...
[18:12] <MerlynKorr> this happened on more than olne occaision..
[18:13] <Ririshi> Hello. I am making a partition for an Ubuntu install on my Windows 7. It will be in NTFS. Is that compatible with Ubuntu?
[18:13] <MerlynKorr> then i get "this package is from an un trusted source..." messages in  ubuntu software center...
[18:13] <zykotick9> Ririshi: you can't install onto NTFS no, you could use it as storage
[18:13] <Oxymoron> zykotick9: Not sure, some TinyDebian version :S
[18:13] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, you running the unity desktop, there is a clear screen option if you show al desktops, and click in a blank space
[18:13] <MerlynKorr> that should not be happening either.
[18:14] <MerlynKorr> got that one...
[18:14] <Ririshi> zykotick9: Can I reformat it into a compatible filesystem?
[18:14] <asif> hi..is MATE abailable for ubuntu..?
[18:14] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, untrusted means the signing key is not there or wrong .
[18:14] <zykotick9> Ririshi: not from Windows, no.  The installer can/will look after partitioning/formatting (but it's still a good idea to have a backup of all your data)
[18:15] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, you can pastebin a update command from the terminal so we can see that message.
[18:15] <MerlynKorr> ok...
[18:15] <urlin2u> !pastebin
[18:15] <Ririshi> zykotick9: It will cost about 6 to 8 hours to backup everything O.O
[18:15] <zorklat> can the live disk defrag an NTFS partition?
[18:16] <zykotick9> Ririshi: well, the backup is optional (so long as you don't mind loosing all your data) [but it is just a precaution]
[18:16] <urlin2u> zorklat, you can't defragg from linux
[18:16] <alex1988> ciao
[18:16] <zorklat> seriously?  There are no linux utils to mount a windows partition & defrag it?
[18:16] <zykotick9> urlin2u: not 100% true.  You can copy all the data to another drive then copy it back.
[18:16] <alex1988> !list
[18:17] <zykotick9> !it | alex1988
[18:17] <urlin2u> zykotick9, cool let them know hat is up.
[18:17] <urlin2u> what
[18:17] <zykotick9> urlin2u: well, your origional statement was 95% true ;)
[18:18] <urlin2u> zorklat, none that I know of that are safe.
[18:18] <urlin2u> zykotick9, hey thats a A grade in my college classes, lol :D
[18:19] <Ririshi> Can I install Ubuntu on a FAT32 partition?
[18:19] <zykotick9> Ririshi: no
[18:19] <urlin2u> zorklat, you could install a windows setup in a virtual and do it though safely.
[18:20] <urlin2u> zorklat, if a external that s.
[18:20] <Ririshi> What happens if I do not format a partition. Can I let the Ubuntu installer format it?
[18:20] <urlin2u> is
[18:20] <zykotick9> Ririshi: NTFS/FAT are non-POSIX compliant filesystems and are thus not suitable for gnu/linux installs
[18:20] <zykotick9> Ririshi: YES
[18:20] <subb1> hi
[18:20] <zorklat> the issue is a vista partition that is still 64% fragged after running defraggler twice.
[18:21] <Oxymoron> zykotick9: I am not trying to recompile source, but a new problem. The TinyDebian distro do not seem to have math.h library installed. Do you know which package to install to get it?
[18:21] <zykotick9> Ririshi: just delete the partition, then during install select the "empty space" option
[18:21] <urlin2u> zorklat, I use the auslogics defragger how full is the partition?
[18:21] <Ririshi> zykotick: can i lose my data though then?
[18:21] <dlentz> libc6-dev has math.g
[18:21] <dlentz> h*
[18:21] <subb1> i was learning kernel recompilation. it went without errors. when i reboot ,its showing the error:
[18:21] <zorklat> urlin2u, around 30% tops.
[18:21] <subb1> kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0 0)
[18:22] <zorklat> there are 32 fragmented files, totaling around 32 GB.
[18:22] <cassio> hi. i'm trying to set up a .pps file to launch with the power point view from microsoft that i installed via wine. however, on choosing properties > open with, the menu does not let me add a custom launcher. i tried adding a .desktop file on /usr/share/applications, but it does not show up on the applications list. any ideas?
[18:22] <me-1> hi..how to install MATE DE..?
[18:22] <zykotick9> Oxymoron: i concure with dlentz
[18:22] <MerlynKorr> SEND urlin2u file:///home/scott/Documents/snapshot1.png
[18:22] <subb1> any hints appreciated, thanks!
[18:22] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, just post the url
[18:23] <MerlynKorr> when i sendfile?
[18:23] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, no on the channel
[18:23] <MerlynKorr> when i sendfile?
[18:23] <zorklat> It just seems likely to me that I will have fewer issues resizing if I defrag first.
[18:23] <urlin2u> !pastebin | MerlynKorr
[18:24] <van> hi, how can i stop/remove apache which starts automatically when i log in?
[18:24] <_Marcus> I am trying to connect to a port, the program is running to accept it, the port is forwarded, and it's open in ufw, yet nothing outside of my computer can connect to it. Why is this happening? It cant be a port problem, as 80 is open and anyone outside of my network can connect
[18:24] <dragon111> bonjour tous le monde
[18:24] <Pici> !fr | dragon111
[18:24] <urlin2u> zorklat, I would ask at ##windows 30 % is fine should defragg, they may have better answers.
[18:24] <zykotick9> van: assuming the service is called apache (i'm not 100% it is) "sudo service apache stop"
[18:24] <_Marcus> Wait, never mind, internet going down in a minute anyway
[18:24] <dragon111>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:25]  * Raul30 hii
[18:25] <zykotick9> van: my service command above is not permanent (did seem you wanted it permanent, but i was assuming)
[18:25] <zykotick9> s/did/didn't/
[18:25] <dragon111>  /bonjour j'ai une demande d'aide a faire si ces possiblejoin #ubuntu-fr
[18:26] <urlin2u> dragon111, /join ubuntu-fr
[18:26] <urlin2u> #ubuntu-fr
[18:26] <van> zykotick9, i need to remove it or make it NOT start when i log in. how can i do it?
[18:27] <dragon111> je re apres j'ai une urgence
[18:28] <zykotick9> van: sorry, I'm not sure what Ubuntu's method of managing services is anymore (with upstart).  I use "rcconf" but I doubt that's the correct option for you.
[18:28] <paperke68> Does anyone know how to install a D-Link DWL-G520 wireless card in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[18:28] <urlin2u> !wireless > paperke68
[18:28] <MerlynKorr> its over there...
[18:29] <urlin2u> paperke68, the bots link has confirms for covered cards
[18:29] <DJango_Novice> hi
[18:29] <glebihan> van, if you don't want it to run to run, why not just uninstall it ?
[18:29] <zykotick9> MerlynKorr: if you are refering to a paste/pastebin of some sort, you need to provide the channel with the link to it
[18:29] <MerlynKorr> ty for the instructions on the pastebin too..... and sorry about putting it into the text bar.
[18:30] <Pici> !away > NetRoY
[18:30] <DJango_Novice> im using and lubuntu and when try to open user and group management module.. it seems to be disabled
[18:30] <DJango_Novice> any idea
[18:30] <MerlynKorr> i got it up as per the request.
[18:30] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal and copy and paste the whole text to the pastebin and post the url, you need the pastebin address again.
[18:31] <toni> slt
[18:31] <vivekimsit> which s/w I should use to download videos
[18:31] <subb1> any help guys?
[18:31] <MerlynKorr> it is aaat imagebin.org
[18:32] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, we need the actual url of the page it is on
[18:32] <zykotick9> MerlynKorr: provide the link, like http://paste.ubuntu.com/817957/
[18:32] <MerlynKorr> http://www.pastebin.org
[18:33] <zykotick9> :)
[18:33] <MerlynKorr> like that?
[18:33] <theadmin> MerlynKorr: No... You need to link to the post :/
[18:33] <zykotick9> MerlynKorr: not quite
[18:33] <MerlynKorr> ?
[18:34] <jeagle> Hey folks, I'm using ghostscript to merge PDF files, and it appears that the files are not being merged alphabetically... Can anyone shed light on this matter? :3
[18:34] <MerlynKorr> sorry ppl im new at this....
[18:34] <MerlynKorr> where do i find the url/
[18:34] <urlin2u> MerlynKorr, no problem it is all good. :D
[18:34] <glebihan> MerlynKorr, when you posted your data no the site, you were redirected to another page, where your post is actually located. It's the URL to that page that is needed for to access it
[18:34] <MerlynKorr> from the browser i used?
[18:34] <theadmin> MerlynKorr: After you post, look at your address bar.
[18:35] <MerlynKorr> right.
[18:35] <dragon111> bonjour serait il possible d'avoir une information est ce que avec back track cess t'on faire une injection sql
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> MerlynKorr  type [your command] | pastebinit -- you then get a URL, paste that here
[18:36] <_Marcus> MerlynKorr: Go to http://pastebin.com/ and post whatever you are trying to show there in the text box. After pasting it, scroll down and click "submit". After that, go to your address bar in your browser and copy the link that is there and paste it here
[18:36] <_Marcus> Or just do what MonkeyDust said
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> dragon111  tapez /join #backtrack-linux
[18:36] <dragon111> tapez /join #backtrack-linux
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> :)
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> sans le mot tapez
[18:37] <dragon111> ok voila jepense que ces bon
[18:37] <plagerism> any regexp gurus that wouldnt mind helping me offline?  currently working with rancid->expect and trying to deal with some ansi characters and matching upon them with regexp
[18:37] <vivekimsit> I wany to download videos , which app is best?
[18:38] <dtcrshr> vivekimsit: specify more please
[18:38] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: you mean i can't just answer "wget" ;)
[18:38] <_Marcus> vivekimsit: If RealPlayer is for Ubuntu, use that
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> vivekimsit  there's minitube
[18:39] <vivekimsit> dtcrshr: ok! like I want to download video from this site :http://academicearth.org
[18:39] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: you got it!
[18:39] <vivekimsit> MonkeyDust:its in s/w centre?
[18:39] <dtcrshr> vivekimsit: try jdownloader
[18:40] <karmicthreat> I've got a screwy problem.  I have an init script I run that needs to access /dev/usb/lp0, I have it udev'd to 0666 my init script can't access it but if I manually run it then it works.  Whats my problem?  The serial port work fine with simmilar permissions but I don't need to udev them.
[18:41] <dragon111> bonjour  comment cela ces fait que je me suis fait bannisde la salle  backtrack linux j'a
[18:41] <zykotick9> !fr | dragon111
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !fr| dragon111
[18:42] <sskalnik> If I Ctrl-Z'ed something, how do I find and kill it?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> sskalnik  fg 1
[18:43] <Pici> sskalnik: fg, or jobs
[18:43] <glebihan> sskalnik, "ps -f" will list the processes running in the current terminal
[18:43] <sskalnik> Thanks, all~
[18:45] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, try video downloadhelper in FF
[18:46] <vivekimsit> what is FF?
[18:47] <MerlynKorr> guys i gottaq go now.... i got someone here, and i cant do this right now.... sorry about that...
[18:47] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, firefox, I went to the site the addon I metion works it seems.
[18:47] <urlin2u> mention*
[18:48] <dannel> firefox is communist web browser, capitalists use chrome
[18:49] <urlin2u> dannel, way off topic
[18:51] <zykotick9> and with dannel's comment, that's enough #ubuntu for today
[18:52] <vivekimsit> Look I have a website like this: http://academicearth.org, in which we see the streaming videos but I want to download it too!
[18:52] <ped> Hello, I have a handful of servers. Some running 9.10 with OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2, and others running 10.04 with OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7. I am wondering if security fixes are all backported into these versions. My servers are currently failing a symantec security scan for this vulnerability: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-4755 but i am assuming it is going based only on the server identific
[18:53] <MiPoaMuzungu> I am already enjoying Ubuntu
[18:54] <MiPoaMuzungu> I am a complete NOOB,
[18:54] <urlin2u> MiPoaMuzungu, you have a support question?
[18:54] <MiPoaMuzungu> urlin2u, not yet. Google has become my friend in the last couple of days
[18:55] <urlin2u> MiPoaMuzungu, cool this channel is not for chat but support, glad your having fun. :D
[18:55] <MiPoaMuzungu> Just introducing myself
[18:55] <Pici> ped: You can use this tool to see a CVE's status in Ubuntu package(s): http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/  , the specific one you have here appears to only apply to BSD.
[18:55] <MiPoaMuzungu> I apologize, I will find another place. Thanks.
[18:55] <ron__> i have a security issue. can i ask a support question in here?
[18:55] <Pici> ron__: Thats what this channel is for, Ubuntu support,.
[18:55] <urlin2u> MiPoaMuzungu, welcome to the dark side. :D
[18:55] <_Marcus> Is there an Ubuntu channel for chat?
[18:55] <ped> Pici: thank you
[18:55] <Pici> _Marcus: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:55] <_Marcus> Ah
[18:56] <ron__> i'm on linux mint. is that ok?
[18:56] <Pici> ron__: no. Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[18:56] <ron__> ok but nobody there has an answer.
[18:56] <subb1> any hint on my issue guys/
[18:56] <subb1> ?
[18:56] <urlin2u> ron__, try ##linux
[18:56] <ron__> ok thanks
[18:57] <vivekimsit> Pls guys I need help me
[18:57] <urlin2u> ron__, be ready for a little chiding though. :D
[18:57] <_Marcus> vivekimsit: What's wrong?
[18:57] <vivekimsit> _Marcus:Look I have a website like this: http://academicearth.org, in which we see the streaming videos but I want to download it too!
[18:58] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, I gave you the answer
[18:58] <ron__> thanks for the warning
[18:58] <em> when installing the proprietary driver from ATI, should I do it as root?
[18:58] <BussDriver> em, yes
[18:58] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: I didn't get it properly
[18:58] <jwmto> hello, I'm looking for help with a gnome 3 video problem--can anyone help or suggest a better room?
[18:58] <urlin2u> ron__, no problem.
[18:58] <_Marcus> vivekimsit: I do believe Real Player is supported on Ubuntu, why don't you give it a try?
[18:58] <em> BussDriver: I'm talking about when I do these two steps: chmod +x amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run
[18:58] <em> sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run
[18:59] <em> should those be done as root?
[18:59] <ron__> urlin2u: hmm. it says cannot send to channel in there.
[18:59] <BussDriver> em, yes
[18:59] <vivekimsit> _Marcus:its in s/w centre
[18:59] <_Marcus> ron__ Are you verified with NickServ?
[18:59] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, open firefox dgo to addons install video downloadhelper go to site and use the icon in the toolbar to download.
[18:59] <urlin2u> go
[18:59] <dlentz> jwmto, mint has a lot of gnome3 users..
[18:59] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: ok! let me try
[18:59] <ron__> _Marcus, I haven't done or set up any verification.
[19:00] <em> BussDriver: how confident are you about that?  I'm looking at this -- http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/01/how-to-install-ati-amd-catalyst-121.html
[19:00] <urlin2u> ron__, you have to be registered with freenode
[19:00] <jwmto> dlentz ___ thank you, I'll look for a room called #mint?
[19:00] <em> BussDriver: In those steps it never says to go to root or use sudo ^ but I thought I would have to also.
[19:00] <urlin2u> ron__, I didn't look if you were.
[19:00] <_Marcus> ron__: You should register your nick with NickServ first. Type "/msg nickserv help register" to get help with registering your nickname. You usually need to register your nick to talk on some channels.
[19:00] <BussDriver> I'm very confident.  You cannot install kernel modules without being root.
[19:00] <ron__> okay thanks. i'll figure out how to do that. i haven't used irc in many years.
[19:01] <BussDriver> You can do the chmod step as yourself, but you can't run that binary as yourself..
[19:01] <BussDriver> In fact, you CAN do it, but it will immediately tell you you need to be root and exit.
[19:01] <em> I see. I guess it might be a flaw in the instructions on that page.
[19:01] <damselfly99> evin an X driver really a kernel module, or just an X driver?
[19:02] <madalin> hello
[19:02] <em> BussDriver: even if I could run the .run file as myself, would it do any harm to have root do it, as in, if root does it, the driver will still work for other users later?
[19:02] <jwmto> In addition to the gnome 3 video question I also have a problem installing evolution in ubuntu 11.10?  It seems that it requires an old dependency.  any evolution advice?
[19:02] <dragon111> bonjour
[19:03] <dragon111> serait'il pssibe d'avoir de l'aide
[19:03] <BussDriver> em - To install drivers, you have to be root. It's because they're system-wide and NOT user specific.  The driver won't be installed for any user if you don't install it as root, and the driver will install for all users once it's installed properly.
[19:03] <damselfly99> en anglais sil vous plait
[19:04] <madalin> hello, can please anyone look into http://pastebin.com/g4XEstbF - it looks like there's a driver problem with my ethernat card..
[19:04] <dragon111> une personne pourrais m'aide  pour avoir des information sur backtrack
[19:04] <damselfly99> en anglais sil vous plait
[19:04] <_Marcus> dragon111: Pour obtenir de l'aide s'il vous plaît rejoignez #ubuntu-fr. Vous obtiendrez l'aide en français plutôt qu'en anglais.
[19:04] <xangua> dragon111: backtrack is not supported here
[19:04] <BussDriver> Could anyone please help me with my random boot problems?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908023
[19:05] <_Marcus> dragon111: Pour ce faire tapez "/join #ubuntu-fr" sans les guillemets.
[19:05] <em> BussDriver: How come I can do the chmod step as myself even when it is ultimately necessary for root to do the execution?
[19:05] <dragon111> Merci Marcus
[19:05] <LukeNukem> hey all i want to install ubuntu from a pendrive, i did this ubuntu live key thingie, it does not work.
[19:05] <LukeNukem> so now im going to try extract the iso file and move it to the usb manually? will that do
[19:06] <LukeNukem> and then run wubi from it
[19:06] <madalin> Anyone amazing with networking ?
[19:06] <xangua> LukeNukem: no
[19:06] <xangua> !usb | LukeNukem
[19:06] <BussDriver> em: Because I'm assuming you downloaded the file as yourself.  Chmod just changes' the file's properties, not the ownership.  Chown changes the ownership.
[19:06] <em> BussDriver: That sounds logical. Thanks.
[19:06] <Rehhoff> or use the guide canonical provides for installing onto pendrives when downloading
[19:07] <BussDriver> em: It's worth noting that root can always execute anything that has the execute property.
[19:07] <e01> someone familiar with pppd, i can get connected my router to pppoe with it
[19:07] <BussDriver> em: It's also worth noting that if you chmod the file to 777, then ANYONE could execute it.
[19:07] <madalin> Hello. I'm having a problem with Ubuntu and a lan card. It seems to go up and down for no reason and i'm trying to fix it...
[19:08] <damselfly99> what kind of netcard, madalin?
[19:08] <madalin> damselfly99: the one causing problems is an Atheros
[19:08] <damselfly99> oh, them ...
[19:08] <madalin> e01: using pppoeconf ?
[19:08] <em> BussDriver: You are strikingly competent and you have a very clear style of exposition.
[19:08] <madalin> damselfly99: here, take a look at http://pastebin.com/g4XEstbF
[19:09] <e01> madalin: not available, just only pppd
[19:09] <damselfly99> atheros cards get more requests for help than anything else I've seen
[19:09] <madalin> well, they su_ck.
[19:09] <auk> When it comes to using an encrypted file system, is it normal for your system to inform you that you have low disk space when you know for darn sure you didn't use much on your computer?
[19:09] <Rehhoff> atheros + ubuntu = madness
[19:09] <magma_> how do I check if a certain port is opened on a remote host?
[19:09] <madalin> or they don't mix well with ubuntu..
[19:09] <auk> I'm using LVM + DM_CRYPT.
[19:09] <BussDriver> em: Why, thank you.  I try to be clear when someone is equally clear with their questions.
[19:09] <ssta> they're cheap and are in a lot of cheap devices...
[19:09] <llutz> magma_: nmap -p portnr host (more options: man nmap)
[19:10] <damselfly99> madalin, sure you couldn't afford a better card?
[19:10] <magma_> thanks
[19:10] <madalin> damselfly99: well, i'm sure i'm gonna get a better one in tops 2 days :)
[19:10] <madalin> damselfly99: but 'till then i need this fixed..
[19:10] <BussDriver> em:  You can't by any chance help me figure out why my computer won't boot 2/3rds of the time, can you?  :)
[19:11] <Rehhoff> when booting what errors do you get ?
[19:11] <anthony> I was hoping someone could help me I need to edit the setenv.sh for tomcat and I have no idea where to find it
[19:11] <madalin> damselfly99: can you recommend a good LAN cards producer ? How about Dlink ?
[19:11] <Rehhoff> try use the locate command in terminal to find files
[19:12] <urlin2u> BussDriver, you ave more then one OS or hard drives?
[19:12] <urlin2u> have
[19:12] <BussDriver> urlin2u: I do, I have a total of 3 hard drives and 2 OS's on this machine, but I'm quite confident this has nothing to do with that.
[19:13] <anthony> thank you when I did that nothing happened
[19:13] <urlin2u> BussDriver, probably does the grub bootloader may be in a wrong mbr we have a bootscipt you can run to find out you up for that?
[19:13] <BussDriver> urlin2u: This is all solely related to problems with X config and ATI drivers I believe.
[19:14] <BussDriver> urlin2u: Some steps I've already taken are on this thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908023  - but no one has offered any further help besides drs305
[19:14] <damselfly99> madalin: from your pastebin entry, it looks like the card *maybe* isn't getting carrier from whatever it's plugged into
[19:14] <urlin2u> BussDriver, okay your call, here is the script though in case you need it now or in the future pretty cool script.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[19:15] <BussDriver> urlin2u: I'll gladly run this still if it's helpful in diagnosing this..
[19:15] <madalin> damselfly99: well, the link goes up and down, and i'm currently remotely connected to it. So it works..
[19:15] <spaetz> just updated my precise snapshot and lightdm enters an infitite crash-respawn cycle.
[19:15] <spaetz> Where can I report via IRC?
[19:15] <damselfly99> madalin: dlink cards come in a variety of chipsets depending on the model. it's the chipset that's important
[19:16] <urlin2u> BussDriver, cool and that mod is the grub king at the UF. :D
[19:16] <BussDriver> drs ?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> spaetz  for precise pangolin, type /join #ubuntu+1
[19:16] <urlin2u> BussDriver, yes.
[19:16] <madalin> damselfly99: how about DGE-528T ?
[19:17] <BussDriver> urlin2u: Interesting.   I just don't understand this X problem.  In my pretty long experience with ubuntu, all problems follow the same pattern of reproducibility, but this one is completely random.
[19:17] <spaetz> MonkeyDust: thanks
[19:18] <em> BussDriver: Plymouth fail?
[19:19] <BussDriver> em: The problem seems to be in this open source radeon drivers' ability to do 'drm'
[19:19] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: I have installed it
[19:19] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: but how to download?
[19:20] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: ok! I got it
[19:20] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: Thanks
[19:20] <damselfly99> madalin, the DGE-528T being a realtek 8169 -based card, I couldn't promise that it would be very good
[19:20] <madalin> damselfly99: can you recommend one please ?
[19:21] <damselfly99> madalin: do you need the gigabit speed?
[19:21] <anthony> I need to edit the setenv.sh for tomcat and I have no idea where to find it when I do a locate nothing happens can someone help me out please?
[19:21] <dannel> BussDriver, good
[19:21] <clonezilla> hi
[19:21] <Medic11> hi
[19:21] <BussDriver> dannel:  ?
[19:21] <dannel> hello
[19:21] <Medic11> hello
[19:21] <Medic11> hello
[19:21] <Medic11> hello
[19:21] <FloodBot1> Medic11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <Rehhoff> anthony:  have you tried searching the file by using "search for files feature" ?
[19:22] <madalin> damselfly99: i'm not sure. It's a network with ~60 PCs, 4 switches and 2 wireless routers. Also, it'll be a central VPN server..so i guess yes..
[19:22] <drPoO> Hi all, I am running 10.04 LTS-server and the other day I got a "Kernel panic -not syncing VFS..." error that would prevent booting of the system. I fixed it by reverting to an older version of the kernel. Is there a way to permanently avoid this issue from happening again?
[19:23] <vivekimsit> what is .tmp video files
[19:23] <damselfly99> madalin, how much space in the case, and how much money?
[19:23] <scottj> is there a gui tool that lets you build .xmodmap files to remap keys/modifiers?
[19:23] <acerimmer> drPoO: long answer short: no.  Always keep one or two older kernels installed.  Boot the older kernels via grub.
[19:24] <anthony> Thanks Rehhoff let me try that now I'm not very ubuntu savvy
[19:24] <madalin> damselfly99: i got two PCI slots one next to each other. As for the price i'm looking to a fair price..
[19:24] <madalin> damselfly99: but i'd rather spend more than get into this type of issues later..
[19:24] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, you want the flv or mp4 with that addon.
[19:24] <BussDriver> dannel: Did you mean to message me about my X booting problems?
[19:25] <Rehhoff> If no problem :)
[19:25] <Rehhoff> no *
[19:26] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: actually I downloaded one video from torrent of size 1.4Gb but after downloading its type is .tmp and is not playing , is it some hacking stuff?
[19:26] <subb1> anybody free to provide a little help on a kernel panic issue. went on google.. no much help since im new to linux
[19:26] <damselfly99> madalin: <to the channel in general> anyone have any bad experiences to report regarding the syskonnect driver?
[19:26] <subb1> thanks ..
[19:26] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, not sure grab the ones I suggest flv, or mp4 that should play.
[19:26] <drPoO> Hi all, I am running 10.04 LTS-server and the other day I got a "Kernel panic -not syncing VFS..." error that would prevent booting of the system. I fixed it by reverting to an older version of the kernel. Is there a way to permanently avoid this issue from happening again?
[19:27] <pfifo> vivekimsit, that sound like the file isnt complete then, my torrents usually use .part instead of .tmp but I guess the tmp means its only a partial download
[19:27] <Rehhoff> subb1 what's your problem ?
[19:27] <black> hi
[19:27] <anthony> I tried find -name
[19:27] <anthony> nothing came up
[19:28] <vivekimsit> pfifo: its complete and its size is 1.4GB
[19:28] <pfifo> anthony, look into using slocate if your using ext3/4
[19:28] <^mEmO^> wenaz =)
[19:28] <anthony> ok thank you
[19:28] <urlin2u> pfifo, they are using a addon that is one click and save and will play they just need to save it in the corrext format.
[19:28] <subb1> Rehhoff, this is the error when i reboot- Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[19:28] <damselfly99> madalin: who that be a 64-bit pci slot, or just a 32-bit?
[19:29] <subb1> I was doing kernel recompilation for an issue related to my battery not being detected by the kernel
[19:29] <jonatasnona> hi all
[19:29] <black> i have a problem with my ubuntu... if i want to use dual monitor and turn it on in nvidia tool my problem starts... the window borders, launcher and taskbar arent visible anymore... does anyone can solve my problem?   my system: ubuntu 11.10 64 bit, unity, geforce 330 m
[19:29] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, your going about this in a way that makes it hard save the file types I said from the icon download choices.
[19:29] <madalin> damselfly99: im not sure. lspci will list this ?
[19:29] <pfifo> subb1, you need to enable the correct filesystems/supproting devices in the kernel
[19:29] <Rehhoff> hmm i have to look into that... and see if i can find anything that might be a help
[19:30] <owenll> anthony: I think it's a file created by the user and that's why you can't find it http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/projects/THREDDS/tech/tds4.2/tutorial/GettingStarted.html
[19:30] <Rehhoff> have been using ubuntu for a good 2 years now and still have much to learn xD
[19:30] <vivekimsit> urlin2u: I am dome with that and its downloading fine I am just talking anbout some other problem
[19:30] <damselfly99> madalin, your motherboard's manual will tell you more reliably
[19:30] <urlin2u> vivekimsit, cool just wanted to make sure you were set. :D
[19:30] <drPoO> black, try pressing Alt+F2 and run the command gtk-window-decorator
[19:30] <anthony> owenll thanks I used the sux command to go in as the user still can't find it
[19:31] <black> drPo0: i tried it, but nothing happens
[19:31] <subb1> pfifo, but I assume the reason behind might be of accidently deleting the original /boot/initrd-image...
[19:31] <clonezilla> how do clone my drive  to an pc over the network
[19:31] <owenll> anthony: It won't be there by default unless you've created it
[19:31] <jonatasnona> i found a cp command with this syntax: cp -vr -- <files-and-folders>
[19:31] <jonatasnona> but what means the -- ?
[19:31] <madalin> damselfly99: let me look please ;)
[19:32] <pfifo> subb1, if your making your own kernel then you shouldn't need an initrd, unless your booting from raid/encryption/loop type of device in which case you build your own initrd to compliment your own kernel
[19:32] <thx> jonatasnona: -- escapes the -<option> , incase you have files with a "-" at the start of the name
[19:32] <drPoO> Has anybody here dealt with  a "Kernel panic -not syncing VFS..."  at boot and solved the problem?
[19:33] <subb1> pfifo, okay. if the fix is too long step, please guide me any article or link.
[19:33] <magma_> how can I open a port in the firewall?
[19:33] <pfifo> subb1, if you HAVE to recompile the kernel start from kernel source from the official ubuntu kernel
[19:33] <jonatasnona> thx, oh thanks man!
[19:34] <pfifo> !kernel | subb1
[19:34] <CSMan> hello there
[19:34] <CSMan> ubunt 10_04 x86 here
[19:34] <CSMan> *u
[19:34] <Pici> !enter
[19:35] <urlin2u> CSMan, whats up you need help?
[19:35] <CSMan> how do I enable multiple sessions for one user? When I try to login more than once I get 'cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied'
[19:35] <madalin> damselfly99: i can't seem to understand.. can you help me out ?
[19:35] <subb1> ubottu pfifo , let me give it a try. thanks for responses!
[19:36] <Rehhoff> CSMan you sure the script you trying to execute is allowed to be run as program ?
[19:36] <CSMan> Rehhoff: I'm trying to login
[19:36] <madalin> damselfly99: here's a paste from lshw: http://pastebin.com/vfUwhbsS
[19:36] <Rehhoff> argh ..
[19:36] <CSMan> yeah, argh =/
[19:36] <vincent_> yrock.com
[19:37] <Rehhoff> CSMAn: you're ounable to log in at all or can you log in as your main user ?
[19:37] <Rehhoff> unable *
[19:38] <damselfly99> madalin: since you're asking for a recommendation for a gigabit multichannel card, if I was was going to recommend one, I'd be tempted to recommend a "syskonnect SK-9822", if your pc and wallet can handle it
[19:38] <damselfly99> madalin: but it
[19:38] <madalin> damselfly99: i'm in romania and i don't think i can find skykonnect..
[19:38] <CSMan> Rehhoff: I was able to login the first time, and then when I tried to open another shell it blocked my permissions, so I thought it was a security feature from ubuntu
[19:38] <CSMan> to allow only 1 login at a time
[19:39] <CSMan> I'm currently logged in once
[19:39] <CSMan> so I can still do stuff, but if I logout I think it's going to block it all
[19:39] <Rehhoff> can you check which users have access to the /bin/bash folder ?
[19:39] <pfifo> CSMan, there is no feature to block mutiple logins
[19:39] <damselfly99> madalin, sorry, I don't know what's available in Romania
[19:39] <CSMan> so what the hell happened o_O
[19:39] <madalin> damselfly99: will that Dlink work ?
[19:40] <Rehhoff> CSMan: could it be you have installed anything recently making troubles ??
[19:40] <CSMan> these are /bin/bash permissions: -rwxr-xr-x
[19:40] <pfifo> CSMan, what exactly are you trying todo?
[19:40] <damselfly99> madalin, the dlink card you mentioned previously is a realtek 8169, which is likely to be as bad as the atheros you are using now
[19:40] <tc_> Hi guys. how can I disable the switch to vt7 on boot with those plymouth messages? I want to boot into vt1.
[19:41] <CSMan> pfifo: login into a freshly intalled ubuntu server?
[19:41] <madalin> damselfly99: i also have a realtek that's working correctly.
[19:41] <damselfly99> then use the realtek, if it works
[19:41] <pfifo> CSMan, how are you logging in? via ssh
[19:41] <madalin> damselfly99: it's exactly an RTL-8169 lol.
[19:41] <madalin> damselfly99: this is a routing server, and it needs two cards..
[19:42] <damselfly99> ok, then get the dlink if you know it's already good enough
[19:42] <Caterpillar> does exist an apt plugin to detect fastest mirror?
[19:42] <CSMan> pfifo: yes
[19:42] <Kircle> I'm going to update the kernel to version 3.2. First time I've updated the kernel without update manager's say so. If all goes wrong I can simply go into grub and select the old kernel right?
[19:42] <pfifo> CSMan, and a second ssh connection fails?
[19:42] <CSMan> pfifo: yeah, either fails or messed things up
[19:42] <shazz> hey everyone
[19:42] <CSMan> permissions look fine
[19:43] <pfifo> CSMan, what does it say when it fails?
[19:43] <CSMan> to the /home/user dir
[19:43] <shazz> what are u 2 talkin bout
[19:43] <shazz> sup
[19:43] <Kircle> 'bout?
[19:43] <thx> stuff
[19:43] <CSMan> pfifo: it goes through the welcome screen and it then outputs 'cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied'
[19:43] <droidfellow> Hello, can't install ubuntu server I get to a screen GNU GRUB version 1.99, then i select unbuntu, with linux 3.0.012 generic-pae then
[19:44] <droidfellow> a bunch of words pop up
[19:44] <pfifo> CSMan, can you execute bash on the shell you currently have open?
[19:44] <shazz> do u guys like jls
[19:44] <Rehhoff> jls ?
[19:44] <CSMan> pfifo: no, I get 'The program 'bash' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:44] <CSMan> sudo apt-get install bash'
[19:44] <shazz> yh JLS
[19:44] <auk> Is it normal for your system to tell you that you're running out of disk space when using an encrypted (DM Crypt) LVM  file system   and knowing the facts you've never used much disk space?
[19:45] <ssta> rubbish boy band?
[19:45] <bean> auk, pastebin the output of df-h
[19:45] <bean> err, df -h
[19:45] <pfifo> CSMan, can you do 'ls -la /bin/*sh*' and pastebin the output?
[19:45] <droidfellow> then it hangs
[19:45] <drPoO> how can I prevent synaptic from updating a kernel?
[19:45] <Pici> shazz: This is a support channel. if you're looking to chat you should check out #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[19:45] <shazz> no their not i have 2 of their books and 2 of their albums i am gonna get the third one soon
[19:45] <bean> droidfellow, we'd need to see the "bunch of words"
[19:46] <CSMan> pfifo: ok, hold on
[19:46] <CSMan> pfifo: http://pastebin.ca/2106579
[19:47] <pfifo> CSMan, what is the output of `echo $SHELL`
[19:47] <CSMan> pfifo: I noticed the /bin directory has this permissions drwxr-x--- 2 root root 4096 2012-01-26 14:23 /bin
[19:47] <shazz> i might say random stuff cause my bro keeps typing and its annoying
[19:47] <CSMan> pfifo: /bin/bash
[19:47] <llutz> CSMan: it should be 755 root:root
[19:47] <auk> bean: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=i02UCyXH
[19:47] <CSMan> llutz: yeah, I'll change it
[19:48] <shazz> what r u 2 goin on about
[19:48] <CSMan> llutz: ah hah
[19:48] <jordotech> hi guys, i can't install anything because of this error, can someone point me in the right direction to fix? http://pastebin.com/hBCf10jL
[19:48] <CSMan> that was totally weird
[19:48] <pfifo> CSMan, you could try `chmod 0755 /bin` im not sure if it would matter though
[19:48] <shazz> lol
[19:48] <bean> auk, that tells me that you're using ~ 100% of your LVM.
[19:48] <bean> auk, 113 GB of 119 GB used.
[19:48] <CSMan> pfifo: /bin was the problem, fixed permissions
[19:48] <CSMan> WEIRD o_O
[19:48] <auk> I didn't put that much files worth on my system though.
[19:48] <hydrox24> hi guys
[19:49] <jordotech> hi
[19:49] <llutz> CSMan: /bin with 750 rrot:root won't allow anybody != root (or group root) to access, thats why it failed for you.
[19:49] <CSMan> pfifo, llutz: thanks guys
[19:49] <clonezilla> how do clone my drive  to an pc over the network
[19:49] <llutz> clonezilla: rsync
[19:49] <hydrox24> llutz: you've been on here for a hwile hey!
[19:49] <auk> The real system is: /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[19:49] <hydrox24> you were on when I left about 12 hours ago!
[19:49] <Rehhoff> Wouv someone here is really pro at ubuntu xD
[19:49] <bean> auk, I'm aware.  You're using almost 100% of it
[19:49] <urlin2u> clonezilla, clonezilla.org  lol
[19:49] <drPoO> how can I prevent synaptic from updating a kernel?
[19:49] <hydrox24> Rehhoff: depends, what's your issue
[19:49] <shazz> its well easy to use
[19:50] <jordotech> any help on how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/hBCf10jL  happens with any apt-get install
[19:50] <clonezilla> then how do i do that? (clonezilla)
[19:50] <pfifo> !pin | drPoO
[19:50] <Rehhoff> i have no problems currently.. just stating that there are people here knowing what the hell they are doing xD
[19:50] <auk> SO I want to understand if encrypted systems make small files appear bigger.
[19:50] <Kircle> Guys if I install the linux kernel version 3.2 and something doesn't work I can still boot back into the old kernel right?
[19:51] <shazz> yh i think so
[19:51] <pfifo> Kircle, yes, youll see both kernels listed in the grub menu
[19:51] <jasef> Kircle, in my experience, it normally leaves previous kernels there until you remove them.
[19:51] <Rehhoff> going a bit off topic here.... sorry.... but anyone knowing a good IDE for python developing working in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[19:51] <llutz> hydrox24: it was "llutz_" this morning, my working alter-ego :)
[19:51] <hydrox24> jordotech: i am looking into your issue right now
[19:51] <jordotech> thank you
[19:51] <jasef> Rehhoff, if Eclipse has a python plugin, then yes.
[19:51] <bean> auk, I would doubt it.
[19:51] <hydrox24> lol, righto then
[19:51] <shazz> i <3 Jls
[19:51] <hydrox24> brb
[19:52] <auk> Kircle: If anything, you can hold the SHIFT key before your system starts. and ask it to downgrade to a certain linux version.
[19:52] <bean> shazz, again, this is a support channel.
[19:52] <shazz> kk Brb to
[19:52] <shazz> oh well
[19:52] <auk> bean: Alrighties, I'll just wait until the system says it's using up all disk space and wait to see if this is really accurate or not,.
[19:52] <Rehhoff> eclipse have a python plugin, but have been unable so far to get it working... :( i was hoping of somehting simple and just working if not ill just stick with idle ugh
[19:52] <clonezilla> urlin2u,  how do i ?
[19:52] <pozzz> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu Live CD to Backup Files from my Dead Windows XP Computer. It has booted form the CD nicely. Before I did a disk scan for defects, which showd none. But I cannot see any drives available in the system. I've done fdisk -l under sudo, but it printed nothing. Can you help? How to get to the  files on the Windows drive?
[19:52] <bean> auk, you can do a du -sh / to get the real number
[19:52] <drPoO> thanks pfifo!
[19:53] <urlin2u> clonezilla, the instructions are at the site, never done it myself.
[19:53] <bean> jordotech, can you do an apt-get clean and try again?
[19:53] <clonezilla> in new to this clone stuff
[19:53] <bean> jordotech, apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install whatever
[19:54] <auk> bean: Lol, permission is denied, even with sudo.
[19:54] <auk> Oh hang on:  112G	/
[19:54] <Ririshi> Hello. I opened the demo Ubuntu from the CD I burned. It started, but there came a black screen with some output information. Then it stopped working and froze.
[19:54] <bean> auk, then you really are using 112 G on /
[19:54] <urlin2u> clonezilla, I just use it to clone to a HD, ut ut does do what your asking there is a #clonezilla channel only six there right now.
[19:54] <urlin2u> it it
[19:55] <pozzz> ririshi: have you checked the cd for errors?
[19:55] <jordotech> bean, clean + update don't help
[19:55] <drPoO> pozzz, pastebin the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[19:55] <ssta> Rehhoff: eclipse have several pythin plugins.  If one isn't working, try another...
[19:55] <pozzz> ok. hold on
[19:55] <Ririshi> pozzz: No I didn't do it yet. What errors could be on it.
[19:55] <auk> bean: I do not understand if this will lead to consequences                 OR     what could be eating up the space on my SSD.
[19:56] <jeagle> Is there a program out there that will let me make pdf's text-readable aka OCR that I can do from the command line? :)
[19:56] <urlin2u> clonezilla, you running in  root?
[19:56] <bean> auk, I'd imagine you have downloaded a lot of stuff, movies, music etc?
[19:56] <pfifo> Rehhoff, everyone knows emacs is the best pyhon IDE, paired with quickly makes it even better
[19:56] <Caterpillar> does exist an apt plugin to detect fastest mirror?
[19:56] <hydrox24> jordotech: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/108189
[19:56] <pozzz> Ririshi: i meant msd5check
[19:56] <hydrox24> jordotech: Could be something to do with that bug
[19:56] <auk> bean: Nothing, I don't do much on this machine.       Installed a few apps, but they are not even 30GBs worth.
[19:56] <jordotech> hmm thanks i'll take a look there
[19:56] <jordotech> i'm actually unable to update
[19:56] <bean> jordotech, can you pastebin the output of /var/lib/dpkg/info/perl-modules.list
[19:56] <clonezilla> urlin2u,  i dont know
[19:56] <jordotech> sure
[19:57] <Ririshi> pozzz: what? Im totally new...
[19:57] <bean> jordotech, actually. cat it
[19:57] <Rehhoff> i know emacs, but appearently my computer dont like it since it's just randomly crashing :S
[19:57] <bean> to get the output
[19:57] <urlin2u> clonezilla, if you open a terminal do you see a $ or a #
[19:57] <Jordan_U> pozzz: Are you sure that your Windows XP computer isn't dead because the drive (hardware) is dead?
[19:57] <pk23> anyone here setup mantis bug tracker?  My server can't seem to send out an email password when someone creates a new account
[19:57] <hydrox24> jordotech: If your unable to update I think that confirms that it is this same issue
[19:57] <Rehhoff> and not bothered about finding a fix for it... buti'll try with eclipse and looking for another plugin
[19:57] <clonezilla> root@PartedMagic:~#
[19:57] <echoprinter> what is the package called that let's you ./configure make & make install packages?
[19:57] <bean> pk23, make sure you have an MTA installed.
[19:57] <Guest21417> hey
[19:58] <ssta> Rehhoff: I've also found that the packaged eclipse is a waste of time.  YMMV though
[19:58] <bean> echoprinter, build-essential
[19:58] <echoprinter> I can't remember the name
[19:58] <echoprinter> bean: ah, thank you!
[19:58] <pfifo> echoprinter, autotools/autoconf/automake
[19:58] <em> if you install a properityar driver for a video card manually, and then later let apt-get update the kernel do you break the driver?
[19:58] <urlin2u> clonezilla, ah partition magic been a while since I used it, but in general being in root on the irc is not good.
[19:58] <Jordan_U> echoprinter: What are you trying to compile?
[19:59] <pk23> bean: do you know if there's a way you can manually create an account without having to use a mail server?
[19:59] <clonezilla> urlin2u,  y is that?
[19:59] <pozzz> drPoO ls: invalid option -- '/'
[19:59] <Rehhoff> ssta:  eclipse is only good for java developing ive heard... would just wish netbeans had a proper python plug in
[19:59] <bean> pk23, I've never used it, but if it can't send email I'd imagine there is no email server.
[19:59] <pfifo> Rehhoff, try geany
[19:59] <droidfellow> bean does this help https://plus.google.com/u/0/101685076957539039426/posts
[19:59] <urlin2u> clonezilla, you are exposed for trouble, not sure if this applies here but I suspect it does.
[20:00] <jordotech> bean: its not... english
[20:00] <Rehhoff> pfhfo: i'll give it a try :)
[20:00] <drPoO> pozzz, did you add another character in there? "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" works for me
[20:00] <hydrox24> jordotech: It's a little tricky hey!
[20:00] <clonezilla> urlin2u,  pm me what your talkin about
[20:00] <jordotech> �e�.���?�&iY��p�y������]4�<%t��7�oï��Ҷ��}�Z�)~
[20:00] <pozzz> Ririshi google it. Ask if you cannot find it.
[20:00] <Caterpillar> does exist an apt plugin to detect fastest mirror?
[20:00] <em> If you install a driver for a video card manjally and it is a propreitary one. then later on use apt-get to updgrade do you break the driver?
[20:01] <bean> droidfellow, and then it sits at that screen?
[20:01] <hydrox24> Caterpillar: Doesn't Ubuntu so that on installing it?
[20:01] <drPoO> Caterpillar, not a command line based one
[20:01] <pfifo> jordotech, its spelled ����
[20:01] <jordotech> lol
[20:01] <Caterpillar> drPoO: dont know
[20:01] <Caterpillar> ok
[20:01] <hydrox24> Caterpillar: if not, synaptic does that I think
[20:01] <pozzz> Jordan_U, I'm on the Win XP laptop as well now. Ubuntu Live CD. Did u mean something eles?
[20:01] <urlin2u> clonezilla, the root is in general on a OS is the operating system everything available without a password, it can be pwnd by another.
[20:01] <acerimmer> hydrox24: don't believe so - it just goes to default main server.
[20:01] <drPoO> pozzz, so you have loaded Ubuntu from a livecd?
[20:02] <urlin2u> clonezilla, I don't pm, lok on the web about this.
[20:02] <droidfellow> here is a screen shot of the error i get when trying to install ubuntu server https://plus.google.com/u/0/101685076957539039426/posts
[20:02] <ssta> Rehhoff: I dunno.  I've only ever really used it for java and LaTex.  I mainly use netbeans for java though
[20:02] <Jordan_U> pozzz: I'm saying that if Windows XP fails to boot, and an Ubuntu LiveCD fails to see the drive, it sounds very much like the drive (hardware) is non-functioning.
[20:03] <madalin> damselfly99: i think i fixed it. Temporarily. I just flushed the mangle table and it stopped.
[20:03] <bean> jordotech, hmm...
[20:03] <damselfly99> madalin: then all is good
[20:03] <acerimmer> droidfellow: no help can't read.
[20:03] <auk> bean: I think I found the file on my system creating problems.         /proc/kcore     <---- 140.7 TB (140,737,486,266,368 bytes)                 I only have a 128GB SSD (which is really a 119GB).
[20:03] <pfifo> droidfellow, I dont see any problems there
[20:03] <derpladee> hey, i just added some new nameservers in resolv.conf, but when i restart my computer the old nameservers are back again. how do i prevent this from happening?
[20:04] <hydrox24> jordotech: can you use private messages?
[20:04] <Rehhoff> ssta: I see i still have much to learn.. only language i good at is PHP xD
[20:04] <hydrox24> jordotech: I have sent you one
[20:04] <pfifo> derpladee, disable dhcp
[20:04] <madalin> damselfly99: thanks for your time m8. You're great!:)
[20:04] <llutz> auk: /proc is a virtual filesystem, not really taking space.
[20:04] <Rehhoff> okay ./configure on geany gave me this error.. configure: error: No C++ compiler found. Please install a C++ compiler. anyone know where to find a c++ compiler xD ?
[20:04] <ssta> Rehhoff: php is a respectable language for some things...very easy to write badly, but hey, you can write bad code in any language if you try hard enough :)
[20:04] <pozzz> drPoO yes, i did. typed in   ls-l /dev/disk/by-uuid/   (no spaces)
[20:04] <droidfellow> pfifo oh! no command line or anything?
[20:04] <bean> Rehhoff, apt-get install build-essential
[20:05] <bean> pozzz, ls -la
[20:05] <pfifo> Rehhoff, `sudo apt-get install geany`
[20:05] <bean> pozzz, need a space
[20:05] <derpladee> pfifo, but my router uses dhcp for giving my computer an ip every time i connect to it i think? i just don't want to use the router's nameserver
[20:05] <pozzz> Jordan_U		 ok. probably it is.
[20:05] <hydrox24> Rehhoff: the build-essential package contains what you need
[20:05] <auk> llutz: But something on my system is preventing me from writing anything, I can not even save a simple text file now. :S
[20:05] <Rehhoff> totally forgot that ...
[20:05] <Jordan_U> jordotech: That sounds like the files has been corrupted somehow. First thing I would do would be to check the SMART status of the drive, then run fsck.
[20:05] <hexbase> hi, how do i let www-data to sudo for certain command? I need a php script to do that
[20:05] <nancy--> how to see the network speed by consol?
[20:06] <llutz> auk: maybe, but not this (virtual) file
[20:06] <pfifo> droidfellow, well, that screen shot doesnt show the problem
[20:06] <damselfly99> nancy-- ifconfig
[20:06] <cannonfodder> hey you guys is it possible to calculate md5  recursively for an entire directory tree and all its contents
[20:06] <droidfellow> pfifo so where do i go from there?
[20:06] <hydrox24> jordotech: there could be a simpler issue, simply with the .deb file and something about a "newline" not existing where it needs to
[20:06] <pozzz> bean ls: cannot access /dev/...   no such file or directory
[20:06] <em> I gotchya C++ compiler right ovah' heah' (also sudo aptitude install build-essential)
[20:06] <pfifo> derpladee, I use static IP's or configure my own DHCP
[20:06] <auk> llutz: I'm using a dm-crypted system.     I set it up so it's an EXT4 inside LVM and it's encrypted.
[20:06] <hydrox24> auk: what;s the error you get when TRYINg to save a file
[20:06] <ubluntu> cannonfodder: sudo md5deep -er /dir
[20:07] <cannonfodder> thank ubluntu
[20:07] <llutz> auk: whatever, /proc is not your problem
[20:07] <derpladee> can't i just make the dhcp use the ip the router gives me, and ignore the nameserver
[20:07] <Rehhoff> ssta: PHP is also a language where you easily make bugs xD
[20:07] <pozzz> bean got that after typing in the string WITH the space
[20:07] <auk> hydrox24: Could not save the file /home/auk/Desktop/j. There is not enough disk space to save the file. Please free some disk space and try again.
[20:07] <pfifo> derpladee, are you sure your router dosent allow you to specify the DNS servers it sends?
[20:07] <auk> llutz: Yeah, btw, I have no swapdisk partition. Since my machine uses 16GBs for ram.
[20:07] <nancy--> damselfly99,  any other command used by nix
[20:07] <hydrox24> auk: well, that error makes sense to me, is it true? Do you just need to free up some disk space?
[20:07] <nancy--> ?
[20:07] <hexbase> how do i let www-data to sudo for certain command? I need a php script to do that
[20:08] <drPoO> pozz, there should be a space between "ls" and "-l"
[20:08] <derpladee> yes i'm pretty sure of that, it makes me use the DNS server of my ISP
[20:08] <nimbiotics> How do I install a jdbc in linux ubuntu?
[20:08] <iceroot> hexbase: dont do that
[20:08] <ssta> hexbase: umm, that's usually going to be a BAD idea imo
[20:08] <iceroot> hexbase: big security issue
[20:08] <pfifo> derpladee, I know network manager can be configured to ignore DHCP nameservers
[20:08] <bean> hexbase, that sounds like a bad idea, but you can do it with nopasswd stuff in sudoers config
[20:08] <hexbase> iceroot, i need it, the script is protected
[20:08] <ssta> that's the easy way to get your box rooted
[20:08] <llutz> hexbase: you dont want a webserver doing something as root
[20:08] <iceroot> hexbase: dont do that
[20:09] <Jordan_U> hexbase: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[20:09] <hexbase> llutz, just one command, reload squid config
[20:09] <auk> hydrox24: the problem is, theres really nothing to free up, I don't have much on this computer. Literally, I hadn't even used more than 30GBs worth of files. I for heck sure do not have 60GBs worth of files.              This is insane.
[20:09] <hexbase> Jordan_U, just one command, reload squid config
[20:09] <pozzz> bean, drPoO, :update. What was that uuid?
[20:09] <bean> auk, what is the output of du -sh /home/
[20:09] <hydrox24> auk: and your partition is far bigger than 60GB then?
[20:09] <pozzz> is taht specific number?
[20:09] <ilovemesomeubunt> Is fail2ban and Key-auth the best most "secure" config for sshd?
[20:09] <auk> hydrox24: Yes. twice as big.
[20:09] <hexbase> Jordan_U, i've added www-data www-data=/etc/init.d/squid3 reload, with visudo but no success
[20:10] <derpladee> pfifo, yes it totallly can, thanks
[20:10] <hydrox24> auk: run the command suggested by ben then
[20:10] <drPoO> pozzz, its a unique identifier for the hdds/floppy/cd drives on your machine
[20:10] <hexbase> Jordan_U, does the user need to relogin?
[20:10] <pozzz> drPoO sorry, people. I just copied the whole string. Had no idea.
[20:11] <hexbase> later i fix it
[20:11] <hexbase> bye
[20:11] <auk> I found it, this bloaty: .xsession-errors
[20:11] <auk> That's insane.
[20:11] <bean> auk lol, how big?
[20:11] <auk> 112GB.
[20:11] <Ririsi> Hello.
[20:11] <auk> -.-
[20:11] <Ririsi> pozzz: I will do a check
[20:12] <auk> I'mma go delete that.
[20:12] <pozzz> drPoO how do I get the identifier? ls -l /dev/disk/ showed me someting
[20:12] <bean> auk, you might need to restart to make the file actually be removed.
[20:12] <auk> This is ruining my SSD.
[20:12] <em> Why does there need to be a EULA for ms-corefonts?
[20:12] <bean> auk, since it's probably open with X
[20:12] <pfifo> hexbase `sudo useradd www-data admin`
[20:12] <bean> auk, want a quick hack to make that file not writeable?
[20:12] <Nach0z> Got a weird question for yall. My Ubuntu has a directory, I did sudo su, chmod 666 ./ -R, chown <my username> ./ -R, and su - <my username>, but when I try to cd to that directory it  tells me permission denied.
[20:12] <damselfly99> em: because m$ considers it intellectual property
[20:13] <auk> bean: Permissions? :P
[20:13] <pozzz> drwxr bla bla bla ...by-label      and         bla bla bla ...by-path
[20:13] <bean> auk, or chattr +i
[20:13] <Rehhoff> have you tried as superuser to cd to the directory ?
[20:13] <hydrox24> auk: before you do, Maybe there is an issue causing the logs to be bloated?
[20:13] <auk> Okies, I'll give that a go. Thanks.
[20:13] <Ririsi> pozzz: i can't find it... please help me
[20:13] <Nach0z> Rehhoff: su can get in just fine
[20:13] <Nach0z> Rehhoff: but if I do ANY permissions other than 777 on the directory, suddenly nobody but su can get in
[20:13] <ilovemesomeubunt> Anyone good with securing ssh server?
[20:13] <Nach0z> this kinda struck me as weird.
[20:14] <ssta> damselfly99: it *is* IP...
[20:14] <pfifo> Nach0z, you ser read/write/NO list permission (0666) try 0755 instead
[20:14] <pfifo> set
[20:14] <geekbri> ilovemesomeubunt: what exactly are you looking to do
[20:14] <em> damselfly99: what does the EULA prohibit me from doing, if anything, wth the corefonts? If I make something using the corefonts does it belong to me or to microsoft?
[20:14] <bean> ilovemesomeubunt, pretty easy, disable root log in, force ssh keys, change the port, etc.
[20:14] <drPoO> pozzz, pastebin the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[20:14] <Rehhoff> how about granting the directory/file permissions using gui ?
[20:15] <geekbri> bean: ilovemesomeubunt: you could also use fail2ban
[20:15] <damselfly99> ssta: of course, good freeware fonts are rare
[20:15] <Nach0z> hm... 755 works, pfifo. What would the correct permissions be if I just want the user/group to be able to read/write and all others locked out?
[20:15] <Nach0z> Rehhoff: no gui. don't got one. XD
[20:15] <Rehhoff> o_0
[20:15] <ilovemesomeubunt> bean, cool.  I did that and am considering fail2ban
[20:15] <pfifo> Nach0z, 0770
[20:15] <Nach0z> woo terminal. And what's weird is that this is the FIRST time this has happened to me
[20:15] <pk23> bean: fyi, I ended up having to edit the database password field and used an encrypted md5 value corresponding to the word 'password' to log in
[20:15] <Rehhoff> what version of ubuntu you run ?
[20:16] <graft> Nach0z: you need to have x permissions on a directory to enter it
[20:16] <auk> hydrox24: do you by any chance know a way to force free up space after deleting a file?
[20:16] <auk> Otherwise, i will just reboot.
[20:16] <Nach0z> Rehhoff: it's on 11.04 at the moment, set up as a server, so headless
[20:16] <bean> pk23, cool story bro. I don't use that software, I was just telling you in general to install a MTA if it cant send mail
[20:16] <damselfly99> em: it prohibits you from distributing the fonts at some time in the future when m$ says you can't, it forbids you from copying the shapes of the letters for your own fonts, etc
[20:16] <Nach0z> graft: x permissions on a dir to enter? i thought x was to execute o_0
[20:16] <hydrox24> auk: how did you delete the file?
[20:17] <graft> Nach0z: for regular files, yes, for directories it gives you permission to enter the dir
[20:17] <paulus68> ilovemesomeubunt: try out this site
[20:17] <pfifo> Nach0z, X means execute files OR list a directory
[20:17] <paulus68> ilovemesomeubunt: http://thinkhole.org/wp/2006/10/30/five-steps-to-a-more-secure-ssh/
[20:17] <em> microsoft did not invent the shape of the letters. Letters have a certain shape or else we can't tell what letter it is. That's my view.
[20:17] <Rehhoff> what exactly are you trying to do ?
[20:18] <ssta> em: MS weren't the first to copyright typefaces.  Not by a long way.
[20:18] <Nach0z> graft: oh. well. that's fun. so I have to have +x on the directory to read it, and +x on a file to execute it. that about right?
[20:18] <damselfly99> em: copyrights and IP for fonts are a long tradition.
[20:18] <geekbri> ilovemesomeubunt: if you are using not using regular password auth and requiring SSH keys and have changed the default port, and disabled root login... youre probably fairly safe.
[20:18] <Nach0z> Rehhoff: I've run a server for a while now, I just was cleaning up some permissions on a shared directory.
[20:18] <Jordan_U> em: If you don't want to use Microsoft Fonts you don't need to. There are plenty of Free fonts available.
[20:18] <em> by now some of the best fonts should have become public domain then.
[20:18] <pfifo> Nach0z, the first characre of the permissions is the most important, the d in this case, drwxrwx---
[20:19] <em> Arial is a very nice font. Does some corporation own it?
[20:19] <osd1000> Hello
[20:19] <damselfly99> yes
[20:19] <em> What about Times New Roman?
[20:19] <Nach0z> pfifo: alright. thanks.
[20:19] <damselfly99> yes
[20:19] <ssta> em: copyright is 70 years...hasn't been time for it to expire for digital fonts
[20:19] <graft> Nach0z: yeah... you can fix your problem with find - do chmod u+x `find . -type d`
[20:19] <em> ssta: that's much much too long.
[20:19] <geekbri> ssta: i think its actually 75 years now... see: the mickey mouse effect
[20:19] <ssta> em: microsoft own arial.  TNR belongs to the British Times newspaper
[20:19] <Nach0z> graft: thanks, that's actually pretty helpful. should put that into a script. XD
[20:20] <ssta> geekbri: ah, it keeps changing
[20:20] <em> ssta: this is very upsetting.
[20:20] <damselfly99> em: there are some acceptably good freeware fonts out there though
[20:20] <geekbri> sst: basically anytime mickey mouses copyright is about to expire disney lobbys as hard as it can to get the time extended
[20:20] <ssta> em: Computer Modern (the most amazingly easy to read font ever) is freely avaiable
[20:20] <ilovemesomeubunt> bean, paulus68, geekbri, Thank you!  I also wouldn't mind blocking nearly all of Asia due to the volume of crap traffic I get from there =P
[20:20] <graft> Nach0z: also in the future, stick with the aug+rwx type syntax, it's easier to understand than the numbers
[20:20] <ssta> geekbri: yeah.  Sucks to live in a world like that
[20:21] <Ririsi> I tried to install Ubuntu 11.10 and it froze.. I got a picture of it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/img0182w.jpg/
[20:21] <em> ssta, damselfly99 surely an open source community could make fonts that are HIGHLY SIMILAR in all relevant aspects to the ones we like best. Arial is a nice non serif font. No one can own the right to inventing the idea of not using serifs.
[20:21] <graft> Nach0z: and less likely to break stuff
[20:21] <Jordan_U> em: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
[20:21] <osd1000> Ririsi: Try ubuntu 10.04
[20:21] <Nach0z> graft: normally I do that, but that's actually what borked it in the first place. Numbers are seeming more accurate XD
[20:21] <Ririsi> osd1000: What is wrong with 11.10?
[20:21] <osd1000> Ririsi: 11.10 is goo db
[20:21] <em> Fonts are so surprisingly interesting. What a rich history.
[20:21] <geekbri> ilovemesomeubunt: most of those are silly script kiddy attacks anyway that are generally harmless and are just a nuisance since they clog up your logs
[20:21] <graft> em: Arial is not a good font, it sucks, and it was made as a derivative of helvetica in the first place. There are free fonts that are much better renditions of helvetica than arial (like dejavu sans)
[20:22] <acerimmer> @Jordan_U: damn you type fast!  I was just thinking that...
[20:22] <Ririsi> osd1000: goo db? sorry, new to these things.
[20:22] <Rehhoff> use dafont.com for free fonts
[20:22] <osd1000> Ririsi: but its desktop contains unity so its a memory hogger
[20:22] <pozzz> Ririsi: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM> Do a MD5SUM check on the Ubuntu file you have downloaded. Then burn your CD. Check the CD for errors (optional, but may be needed, Verify disc after buring - If the CD writing fails, try writing at a slower speed). When you burn the CD it is not a media CD or a music CD that you need. Unlike a regular data file, the ISO file cannot be simply dragged and dropped or copied directly onto a
[20:22] <pozzz> disc. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto)
[20:22] <paulus68> ilovemesomeubunt: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/573
[20:22] <ssta> em: there are several sets of free fonts.  I don't use mscorefonts for example and I have as many fonts as I need
[20:23] <auk> There we go, my linux system is happy again. thanks everyone.         6.3 GB (some contents unreadable)
[20:23] <guntbert> !ot | ssta em
[20:23] <auk> Oh gawd. I put an end to it with chattr +i, works swell.
[20:23] <damselfly99> auk: the "some contents unreadable" part doesn't sound good
[20:23] <em> !thanks | guntbert
[20:24] <auk> damselfly99: My system is encrypted.
[20:24] <Ririsi> pozzz: this is for when you have linux installed. I have windows..
[20:24] <paulus68> ilovemesomeubunt: http://www.mysql-apache-php.com/ssh-attacks.htm
[20:25] <guntbert> Ririsi: you will find instructions for windows there too
[20:25] <Ririsi> pozzz: never mind. I did a check and the disc is right.
[20:26] <em> Anyhow ms-corefonts comes in ubuntu-restricted-extras so probably almost everyone who uses Ubuntu agrees to the EULA.
[20:26] <em> Because if you do not agree it will kill the installation.
[20:27] <pfifo> I dont use ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:27] <Ririsi> guntbert: thank you. I saw it.
[20:27] <Rehhoff> imo microsoft have nothing to do in the ubuntu world
[20:27] <pozzz> drPoO sorry, but I've been busy. I says "cannot access"
[20:27] <auk> damselfly99: To satisfy you: 6.4 GB           <--- When checking using root.          Thanks for the raised awareness.
[20:27] <pozzz> Ririsi, as u can see i have a problem here as well. just be patient
[20:28] <Ririsi> pozzz: sorry pozzz
[20:28] <pozzz> Ririsi it is for linux and windows. The pages I gave you are long
[20:29] <pozzz> Ririsi do u have the Ubuntu file?
[20:29] <guntbert> !u | pozzz
[20:29] <cperales> when i trying opening this image (earth photo from nasa)http://npp.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/VIIRS_4Jan2012.jpg my session its closed
[20:29] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem. I've got an Asus Zenbook on which I of course installed Ubuntu. Now my trackpad is just not working properly anymore. In Windows it works very nicely but in Ubuntu it sometimes just react to any pressure. Is there something I can do? Is this problem known?
[20:29] <pozzz> ubottu, guntbert, sorry
[20:29] <guntbert> cperales: with what browser?
[20:30] <Ririsi> pozzz: Yes I have the file. I burned it to a CD and I checked it. It is right.
[20:30] <pfifo> cperales, maybe nasa decided that they didnt mean to release that photo
[20:30] <acerimmer> eitch: take a look in your mouse settings.
[20:30] <pozzz> Ririsi do you have the Ubuntu file?
[20:30] <eitch> acerimmer, why? what would the problem be?
[20:30] <cperales> guntbert, at first i thought it was my browser but opening from desktop does the same effect
[20:30] <Ririsi> pozzz: yes i do. I said so already.
[20:30] <acerimmer> cperales: session killed everytime or just once?
[20:30] <eitch> I hhoked up a normal usb mouse and that works perfectly
[20:31] <pozzz> Ririsi Did you burn it as a iso file?
[20:31] <cperales> acerimmer, every time i try to open it
[20:31] <damselfly99> cperales: I just tried your link. It's a *huge* jpeg, clearly too large for memory on most machine
[20:31] <acerimmer> eitch: touchpad settings might need to be tweaked.
[20:31] <Ririsi> pozzz: yes i did it with the first method. Right click on the .iso file and click on burn to disc.
[20:31] <graft> damselfly99: it's 8k*8k
[20:31] <pfifo> cperales, that is a nice photo
[20:31] <eitch> acerimmer, ok, i'll have a look
[20:31] <cannonfodder> hey you guys. i want apache to have access to my /var/svn folder which contains svn repositories...however, svnserve daemon is also going to be accessing it...i know based on documentation that i need to give apache permission to access this folder also, but if i were to chown -R that entire directory to apache:apache   then the svndaemon which runs under svn:svn will not have access to it...so, i was wondering if a simple hack of doing a chown -R apac
[20:31] <graft> damselfly99: that'll take like 200M? maybe?
[20:32] <acerimmer> cperales: opens fine for me and I'm running VirtualBox AND firefox AND email.  Suspect your gpu might have overloaded.  This is an intense file.  Any other graphics hiccups??
[20:32] <devish> my don't have any upload speed in ubuntu 11.10
[20:32] <cperales> damselfly99, yep but i have a lenovo b570, 8 GB of RAM
[20:32] <pozzz> If you check “Verify disc after burning”, it will verify that the ISO image has been burned correctly. Did you do that?
[20:32] <Ririsi> pozzz: no i didn't. what should i do now?
[20:32] <devish> i there a way to set upload speed
[20:33] <cperales> pfifo, i cant see it :(
[20:33] <devish> is there a way to set upload speed
[20:33] <pfifo> cannonfodder, put apache user and svn user into amutual group, and then make that mutual group have permissions on the folder
[20:33] <mystik> how do i get rid of this bloody awful unity thing...its so laggy and buggy
[20:33] <Nach0z> whoo. figured out a little haxxing of my perms and "find" and got stuff done.
[20:33] <mystik> im using 11.10
[20:33] <urlin2u> cperales, try another browser.
[20:33] <mystik> !unity
[20:33] <Jordan_U> !notunity | mystik
[20:33] <devish> as upload speed is 0 some sites are not working properly
[20:33] <hydrox24> mystik: You need to choose another Window Manager
[20:34] <devish> !anyone
[20:34] <kasii> with fourier series
[20:34] <Nach0z> One more question for yall: if I start up a .sh file in terminal, it SHOULD use the directory I'm cd'd into right then should be the directory it runs from yes?
[20:34] <cperales> urlin2u: this also happen opening it from desktop
[20:34] <finale> hi, on my computer with 11.10 the unity dash takes 4+ seconds to open
[20:34] <Ririsi> What is the difference between Download and Install and Try on CD or USB?
[20:34] <mystik> hydrox24, like which ones hydrox24
[20:34] <hydrox24> Nach0z: Yes, always
[20:34] <pozzz> Ririsi first of all, did you do md5sum to chect if the file was downloaded properly?
[20:34] <pozzz> *to check
[20:34] <acerimmer> Nach0z: right
[20:34] <hydrox24> Hypnoz: what do you mean?
[20:34] <urlin2u> cperales, you have a slow connection, it shows here but at a really slow speed to finish.
[20:34] <Ririsi> pozzz: yes i did. It is able to read.
[20:34] <Nach0z> awesome. I'm gonna make a bash script right quick then...
[20:34] <kasii> is popin  with fourier series
[20:35] <damselfly99> cperales: at 8k x 8k by 24-bit color, it's just over the 16mb memory segment limit
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Ririsi: If you're asking about the links on the Ubuntu website, they both go to the exact same page.
[20:35] <kasii> do u know fourier series
[20:35] <Ririsi> Jordan_U thank you.
[20:35] <pozzz> Ririsi you should get a long string like "hshsgsg6t6s6a6ta6t6ast6" when doing the md5sum check.
[20:35] <hydrox24> mystik: what do you mean?
[20:35] <kasii> most applicable in os
[20:35] <acerimmer> cperales: rather than open it, download and save it.  THEN try opening
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Ririsi: You're welcome.
[20:36] <pozzz> Ririsi Is that what you got?
[20:36] <cperales> damselfly99, oh ok, but i can see it with gimp, why works there?
[20:36] <Ririsi> pozzz: no i used media check for the CD. now going to check it.
[20:36] <mystik> hydrox24,  u said i had to use another window manager..besides gnome 3 what other ones are their
[20:36] <kasii> ubuntu linux kubuntu edubuntu lubuntu xubuntu
[20:36] <Hypnoz> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[20:36] <kasii> yes
[20:36] <Hypnoz> I love linux error messages :)
[20:36] <kasii> why
[20:37] <damselfly99> cperales: because gimp obviously is designed for huge images, so it doesn't depend on 16mb memory segments
[20:37] <cperales> damselfly99, ok, thx :)
[20:37] <pozzz> Scroll down for "MD5SUM on Windows" in one of the pages. Ririsi
[20:37] <kasii> HBYE
[20:37] <kasii> POA
[20:37] <Nach0z> kasii: ....?
[20:37] <kasii> yes
[20:37] <kasii> nashoz
[20:37] <Nach0z> what was that about? :|
[20:37] <Ririsi> pozzz: It is checking now.
[20:38] <Nach0z> linux is what all the 'buntus are built on.
[20:38] <Nach0z> the "why" is because people like different window managers.
[20:38] <Ririsi> pozzz: C396DD0F97BD122691BDB92D7E68FDE5 *ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:38] <jeagle> is there a command that will just list the folder name? like " ls -d */ " This works however, I don't want any ' / ' in the result...
[20:38] <Jordan_U> kasii: Please stop with the nonsense or you will be removed from the channel.
[20:38] <urlin2u> Nach0z, you have a actual problem?
[20:38] <kasii> okay
[20:38] <jeagle> is there a command that will just list the folder name? like " ls -d */ " This works however, I don't want any " / " in the result...
[20:38] <hydrox24> mystik: Try xfce
[20:38] <Nach0z> urlin2u: Got my problem kinda fixed, now I'm helping with random people 'cuz I'm bored.
[20:39] <ssta> jeagle: find . -type d -maxdepth 1
[20:39] <urlin2u> Nach0z, cool.
[20:39] <pozzz> it is ok
[20:39] <jeagle> woops
[20:39] <jeagle> sorry that was lag issue there.
[20:39] <kasii> Nach0z,  yes am here
[20:39] <Ririsi> pozzz: Is that correct?
[20:39] <pozzz> when compared to the key here http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS  , Ririsi
[20:39] <kasii> Jordan what non sense
[20:40] <eitch> acerimmer, actually now the response seems a bit better, but now the right mouse button doesn't work... weird
[20:40] <kasii> bye
[20:40] <kasii> guys
[20:40] <kasii> gudnyt
[20:40] <kasii> nice chat here in irc
[20:40] <hydrox24> kasii: cya
[20:40] <pozzz> Ririsi yes. Burn the CD again. try writing at a slower speed and check “Verify disc after burning”
[20:40] <finale> hey, i'm using 11.10 and the unity dash takes 4+ seconds to open
[20:40] <Ririsi> pozzz: I compared and it's exactly the same.
[20:41] <Ririsi> pozzz: okay... It takes a new CD =.=
[20:41] <urlin2u> Ririsi, you can load a usb stick as well.
[20:41] <pozzz> burn on the same one. if it is RW
[20:41] <pozzz> or a USB stick
[20:41] <jeagle> ssta: that worked... kinda haha. I need something that will generate the same results at ls (no begining or end " ./ " in it. just the file name.
[20:41] <Ririsi> urlin2u: how?
[20:41] <Socket-> Can anyone recomend a good CLI reader for usenet
[20:42] <Ririsi> pozzz: it's very cheap i think.. so no RW i think.
[20:42] <urlin2u> Ririsi, there is a app called unetbootin on the web works great.
[20:42] <kasii> .
[20:42] <damselfly99> cli reader?
[20:42] <Ririsi> urlin2u: what does it do?
[20:42] <Socket-> command line interface reader for usenet/newsgroups
[20:42] <Ririsi> urlin2u: oh i saw it thank you!
[20:42] <urlin2u> Ririsi, loads the cd to a usb thumb and boots and runs like the cd but a little faster.
[20:42] <pozzz> makes an Ubuntu Live CD on a pendrive
[20:42] <Hypnoz> jeagle: la -d */ | sed 's/\/$//g'
[20:43] <droidfellow> i'm back, so after the installation and the cd pops out i then get the grub srenn i then hit enter on unbuntu with linux, i then get no login screen
[20:43] <Hypnoz> :)
[20:43] <jeagle> ssta: so for example... I just want a list of folder names that has this result " folder-name " not " ./folder-name " or " folder-name/ "
[20:43] <droidfellow> just a flashing curer
[20:43] <droidfellow> curser
[20:43] <guntbert> Socket-: try irssi
[20:43] <urlin2u> droidfellow, you see a black screen?
[20:43] <droidfellow> urlin2u yes
[20:43] <urlin2u> !nomodeset > droidfellow
[20:43] <jeagle> Hypnoz: That works great thank you! :)
[20:43] <Ririsi> urlin2u: can i use the usb afterwards for something else?
[20:43] <pozzz> Ririsi or try to start ubuntu with that old CD again
[20:44] <urlin2u> Ririsi, yep
[20:44] <hydrox24> droidfellow: ar you happy to use sed or awk?
[20:44] <Ririsi> urlin2u thanks!
[20:44] <urlin2u> Ririsi, no problem
[20:44] <Socket-> guntbert: irssi has newgroup support?
[20:44] <damselfly99> http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/utilities.html
[20:44] <pfifo> why do they call it a web browser? I spend 99% of my time searching
[20:44] <guntbert> Socket-: sorry, I misread your question
[20:44] <droidfellow> urlin2u black screen words like Begin loadin essential drivers..done
[20:44] <urlin2u> droidfellow, you may neeed a graphic driver nomodeset should get you in, to find this out.
[20:44] <hydrox24> Socket-: It's lickely to have a plugin for it ;)
[20:45] <Nach0z> Socket-: wikipedia says klibido
[20:46] <Ririsi> urlin2u: which distribution should i choose? NetInstall, HDMedia, or Live
[20:47] <Nach0z> Socket-: I'd suspect klibido is a KDE package or something, another one that I'm seeing is hellanzb
[20:47] <Socket-> sounds guish
[20:47] <Socket-> thanks for looking though
[20:47] <Nach0z> Socket-: hellanzb is specifically listed as non-gui
[20:47] <droidfellow> urlin2u i typed !nomodeset at the prompt but nothing happened
[20:47] <urlin2u> Ririsi, you can use the ISO you have check disc image and find it.
[20:47] <Nach0z> in fact you gotta download GUI packages to get a GUI for it :|
[20:47] <urlin2u> droidfellow, read the link it has to be inserted in the kernel at the grub menu.
[20:48] <urlin2u> droidfellow, the bots private message has a link
[20:49] <Ririsi> urlin2u: oh good idea thank you.
[20:49] <droidfellow> ok new to all this stuff
[20:49] <droidfellow> will check
[20:49] <urlin2u> Ririsi, I always use a thumb, it is just faster, I have usb loader that can load multiple ISO as well and boot all.
[20:49] <pozzz> Ririsi
[20:51] <Ririsi> urlin2u: okay thank you. pozzz: yes?
[20:51] <LukeNukem> hello
[20:51] <urlin2u> Ririsi, np. D
[20:51] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, howdy.
[20:51] <LukeNukem> ive burned ubuntu iso to usb using unetbootin
[20:52] <LukeNukem> i run wubi.exe but it does not let me install alongside windows, it asks me to reboot into live cd and instal lfrom there.i dont want to do that
[20:52] <LukeNukem> im afraid i will mess up my windows installation and i have a lot of work on it sooo
[20:52] <pozzz> Ririsi no, nothing. accident
[20:52] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, you have to boot the thumb for alongside, wub is justa file in windows.
[20:52] <urlin2u> wubi*
[20:52] <Ririsi> I have to delete the files that were on the stick first. I will backup them/ back them up.
[20:52] <LukeNukem> boot the thumb?
[20:52] <LukeNukem> im not sure how to :\
[20:53] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, set the bios to read the usb first.
[20:53] <pozzz> LukeNukem choose in BIOS?
[20:53] <Ririsi> how to choose if my PC will start from hard drive or the USB?
[20:53] <LukeNukem> oh you guys meant thumb drive..
[20:53] <Ririsi> urlin2u:pozzz: oh lol failure
[20:53] <LukeNukem> yea ive set that, but i dont want to do the manual install :\
[20:53] <pfifo> LukeNukem, you could always try ubuntu on a different computer until your comfortable with the installation process. You might be interested in emulation with VMware, if you dont have a 2nd old computer available.
[20:53] <urlin2u> Ririsi, on booting?
[20:54] <LukeNukem> ive installed ubuntu before but i just like installing with wubi, its easier.and i dont have to mess around with file formats n so on
[20:54] <Ririsi> urlin2u: I'm deleting the old files and backing them up now.
[20:54] <urlin2u> Ririsi, cool
[20:54] <pfifo> LukeNukem, ok then why isnt wubi running?
[20:54] <LukeNukem> i launch wubi and this is what i get
[20:54] <LukeNukem> http://gyazo.com/a6256e8e57b70bcc9ca1303875b051e7.png?1327610733
[20:55] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, your best tool is a cd if there is a problem.
[20:55] <LukeNukem> god i tried a dvd, but i burned it once, it completed, put it back in says its empty, burned three times now it wont even load into windows :\
[20:55] <LukeNukem> ok i click demo and full installation and i get this
[20:56] <LukeNukem> http://gyazo.com/e06217f9089a76275401fa0b6f21f666.png?1327610767
[20:56] <LukeNukem> normally wubi asks me which drive to install in, how much space to use, username so on
[20:56] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, what happens if you hit the demo or full installation?
[20:56] <LukeNukem> urlin2u, http://gyazo.com/e06217f9089a76275401fa0b6f21f666.png?1327610767
[20:57] <Ririsi> urlin2u: now deleting the files on the usb and then i'll make the boot-USB
[20:57] <meerkats> in unity, how do I change the name of an application?
[20:57] <meerkats> whats right below the icon
[20:57] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, what release is the ISO?
[20:57] <theadmin> meerkats: I don't think Unity has a menu editor anymore. Edit the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ manually.
[20:57] <austnix> i keep getting this error wiht a fresh nstall : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/boot-sav-gui_3.11-0ppa2~oneiric_all.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/cleancommon-translations.mo', which is also in package boot-repair-common 3.0-0ppa37~oneiric
[20:57] <jenia> hello everyone. i want to monitor netowkr traffic for all the computers on my network
[20:57] <jenia> is there a way to do that?
[20:57] <LukeNukem> 11.10 urlin2u
[20:58] <jenia> maybe theres a program that contacts the router and gets that information?
[20:58] <hydrox24> jenia: unless you want to slow things down, and use cracking/forensics tool, you'll need to build a router box I think
[20:58] <austnix> jenia: use a DD-WRT router
[20:58] <meerkats> theadmin, step forward huh?
[20:58] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, and it is the full ISO? To be honest hardly anyone here uses wubi,so getting tech help for it is kind of a bit of a wait.
[20:58] <hydrox24> jenia: DD-WRT may work too?
[20:58] <theadmin> meerkats: Heh :P
[20:58] <damselfly99> is there a console command to display and control multicast filter settings?
[20:59] <LukeNukem> urlin2u, say i would be doing a manual install, what would i choose as the partition format?
[20:59] <fAz4> i have a very big folder with lots of files, which compression algorithm is faster ? ZIP takes an hour
[20:59] <LukeNukem> and boot loader will be mess with GRUB >> windows boot manager >> windows
[20:59] <LukeNukem> so on and so forth
[20:59] <LjL> fAz4: gzip is fast, but i think zip isn't slow either. i suspect they're both on the fast side of things.
[20:59] <em> is there anything "wrong" with using a PPA to backport in a philosophical sense of wrong?
[20:59] <jenia> okay thanks so very much
[21:00] <theadmin> LjL: gzip compresses single files, not folders...
[21:00] <pfifo> LukeNukem, have you ever tried vmware or qemu?
[21:00] <Ririsi> urlin2u: almost done. now going to make the boot-USB
[21:00] <LjL> theadmin: err, that's easily solved with tar surely?
[21:00] <fAz4>  LjL:  the file size is not important for me just compression time
[21:00] <LukeNukem> pfifo, a long time aog did a manual intall on vmware
[21:00] <theadmin> LjL: Yeah indeed, but that's already double stuffing xD Depends on speed of tar AND speed of gz
[21:00] <LukeNukem> i believe it was on kaola
[21:00] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, first you want to make sure you know the type of drive setup you have if a standard mbr you can only have 4 primary partitions or 3 primaries and a extended which would contain logical ext4 partitions for ubuntu.
[21:00] <LukeNukem> karmic kaola or whatever it was called
[21:00] <Pici> fAz4: You may want to take a look at this, and use whatever is fastest and most accessable to you: http://www.maximumcompression.com/index.html
[21:01] <guntbert> fAz4: or you just use tar: terribly quick, no compression :)
[21:01] <Ririsi> urlin2u: place used to preserve files across reboots?
[21:02] <urlin2u> Ririsi, that is just a persistent option if you wanted to run the thumb and have it save stuff not needed for a install.
[21:02] <Ririsi> urlin2u okay thanks ill just install it.
[21:02] <pfifo> LukeNukem, I recommend you try vwmare again, or qemu which is what wubi most likely uses
[21:02] <urlin2u> Ririsi, make sure that you have the load pointed at the thumb in the drive dropdown as well.
[21:02] <LukeNukem> pfifo, um im pretty sure wubi installs it as an operating system and not a virtual pc.
[21:03] <pozzz> drPoO   Still can help?
[21:03] <Ririsi> urlin2u: you mean i have to choose the right usb stick?
[21:03] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, wubi is a pseudo virtual it s a file in windows.
[21:03] <urlin2u> is*
[21:03] <LukeNukem> ok manual install it is then
[21:03] <drPoO> pozzz, refresh my noggin please... what was the problem?
[21:04] <LukeNukem> i shall be on irc from my sisters laptop so you guys can guide me on the partition problems or anything
[21:04] <Ririsi> urlin2u: it makes the usb booter now
[21:04] <urlin2u> LukeNukem, take notice of what I said if you add to many partitions you will have a big problem, also clone the windows OS first.
[21:04] <ssfdre38> how can i fix this error http://paste.ssfdre38.com/43
[21:05] <pozzz> drPoO http://pastebin.com/m1fxxLqy
[21:05] <pfifo> ssfdre38, run `export LC_ALL=C` and `export HOME=/root`
[21:06] <pozzz> drPoO trying to get files from a dead hhd on WinXP
[21:06] <Ririsi> urlin2u: I will try to boot from there. I will come back and say if it worked. See you soon.
[21:06] <Ririsi> urlin2u: The USB-Booter is done btw
[21:06] <drPoO> pozzz, so you are currently unable to mount the NTFS partition using an ubuntu livecd, is this correct?
[21:06]  * Ririsi is going to try to install Ubuntu on his PC.
[21:07] <coreyo> My lightdm will not start automatically at boot time, I am just dumped into a login console.  /etc/X11/default-display-manager properly points to "/usr/sbin/lightdm" .  If I install another display manager, the other display manager appears to work just fine.  Any suggestions?
[21:07] <pozzz> drPoO I cannot see it neither via the console or in a file browser. BUT I havent tried to force mount. I fear it is too risky
[21:07] <drPoO> pozzz, could you pastebin the output of "ls /dev/sd*" and "ls /dev/hd*"
[21:08] <dies_irae> HOW TO MOUNT TRANSFORMER??!!!
[21:08] <dies_irae> this ridiculous...
[21:08] <theadmin> dies_irae: lolwut
[21:08] <vasitsiv> Hello, I have a partition problem (actually not me, a friend). So he installed linux because winXP got ruined. He had a C: and D: drive. I guided him through phone to delete C: and create a /,/home, and swap partition. After the installation was done, he opened ubuntu and couldn't mount his D: drive. I told him to check gparted and the D: drive was inside the extended partition with /home and swap. How can he read the ntfs partition
[21:08] <dies_irae> theadmin: androide asus tablet is not shouwing up
[21:08] <LukeNukem_> hello
[21:08] <drPoO> pozzz, first you need to find out which one of your devices is the one that has the NTFS partition, then you can mount it
[21:09] <theadmin> dies_irae: Configure it to be used as USB Mass Storage in Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> USB Mode and then plug the USB cable in.
[21:09] <drPoO> pozzz, actually could you pastebin "fdisk -l" please
[21:09] <pozzz> drPoO ok and hold on
[21:09] <dies_irae> theadmin: usb debug mode?
[21:09] <LukeNukem_> ummm
[21:09] <theadmin> dies_irae: No, not that, um
[21:09] <dies_irae> done it.
[21:09] <LukeNukem_> do help me with the partitions please ;-o
[21:10] <theadmin> dies_irae: For me, in Settings -> Wireless and Network -> USB Settings I have 3 options: "Kies", "Media player" and "Mass storage". You'll have something like that too. You need that third one.
[21:10] <marcin_> hello
[21:11] <dies_irae> I don't :(
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  "Kies"?
[21:11] <pozzz> drPoO "fdisk -l" gives nothing. Just shows the next line with ~
[21:11] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Yeah, that's a Samsung thing.
[21:11] <rb26> hello trolls!
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> pozzz  with sudo
[21:11] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Replacement for Samsung PC Studio lol
[21:11] <pozzz> yes, I did sude about 1h ago
[21:11] <pozzz> *sudo
[21:12] <nullucas> hi, does anyone know a program or a good way to display popups, notes, reminders, etc. randomly? I know there are tools to schedule stuff, but not randomly
[21:13] <drPoO> pozzz, run "fdisk -l" as sudo.
[21:13] <rb26> hello trolls!!!
[21:13] <drPoO> pozzz, that HAS to give you an output
[21:13] <pozzz> drPoO I did right after you asked above and nothing
[21:13] <vasitsiv> pozzz, "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:13] <pozzz> ok. let me try again
[21:13] <ipy_one> nullucas server ou client ?
[21:13] <dies_irae> rb26: lawl, u talking to urself now?
[21:14] <pozzz> yes, nothing
[21:14] <pozzz> next line with ~
[21:14] <drPoO> pozzz, i am baffled
[21:14] <vasitsiv> pozzz you write -L right, not -1
[21:14] <pozzz> nullucas; parley and the widget for it
[21:14] <pozzz> yes, (space)-L
[21:14] <javelinboard> i hate to interrupt, but sound just ain't working for me, and Firefox crashes whenever i hit back or stay on a page for a while
[21:15] <javelinboard> this happened after my laptop crashed
[21:15] <javelinboard> i was playing ff7
[21:15] <nullucas> ipy_one, I would use it on my Ubuntu desktop
[21:15] <drPoO> pozzz, what livecd version are you running?
[21:15] <rb26> hahah :dies_irae
[21:15] <pozzz> nullucas it is for learning eg words, but you can use it for remindes, and you can set how rendom it sould be, I guess
[21:16] <ipy_one> well, i use the thunderbir + extensions...
[21:16] <nullucas> pozzz, I'm looking it up, thanks
[21:16] <dies_irae> wow, ASUS EPIC FAIL!!
[21:16] <drPoO> pozzz, stupid question but.... are you sure that the HDD that has windoze is plugged in to your motherboard?
[21:17] <pozzz> drPoO is it possible it is not after the fall?
[21:17] <pozzz> did not open it
[21:17] <drPoO> pozzz, does your BIOS recognize the HDD??
[21:18] <drPoO> pozzz, reboot, go into your BIOS and make sure that the HDD in question is being recognized, then load the livecd and run "fdisk -l"
[21:18] <pozzz> drPoO I went into BIOS but don't remember now.
[21:18] <drPoO> pozzz, check again
[21:18] <pozzz> yeah i will
[21:19] <dies_irae> how to mount Transformer?
[21:19] <dies_irae> I need to transfer files.
[21:19] <telltree> Hi everyone? Can I just ask a question?
[21:19] <sskalnik> !ask
[21:19] <pozzz> drPoO and it is actually Kubuntu 10.04. I just had it on a CD
[21:19] <dies_irae> in the next few minutes, not this afternoon, not tomorrow, not next week.
[21:20] <pozzz> drPoO do you think it may be too old?
[21:20] <sskalnik> !patience | dies_irae
[21:20] <theadmin> dies_irae: When you plug the USB to the device, do you see the "USB Storage Ready" icon in the top left corner (i.e. the device's notification area)?
[21:20] <drPoO> pozzz, i doubt it.... but if your HDD is recognized by the BIOS and "sudo fdisk -l" still outputs nothing... I would try a newer version, but thats just a bad guess
[21:20] <dies_irae> theadmin: I see ASUS Sync and Debug Mode
[21:21] <javelinboard> well, imagine that
[21:21] <theadmin> dies_irae: Hm... No "mass storage"? This is weird. wtf asus, removing standard android features :/
[21:21] <Ririsi> urlin2u: hey
[21:21] <sskalnik> dies_irae:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10979496
[21:21] <javelinboard> my sound just started mysteriously working again
[21:21] <dies_irae> theadmin: I plug plenty of usb, cameras, flash sticks, they ALL appear. ASUS transformer is invisible.
[21:21] <javelinboard> now, i hope firefox starts working too...
[21:21] <javelinboard> ....and it does
[21:22] <javelinboard> thanks a lot, i guess?
[21:22] <telltree> I am using on Ubuntu 11.10 on a relatively new computer. I sometimes get a kernel panic and ubuntu won't boot. Sometimes it goes through. I have no idea why. Quite often it is more likely to load up after sitting for a while not being used, but this is no sure bet. Any ideas on what steps to take to resolve this? I updated from the previous version of ubuntu.
[21:22] <gartral> I do not understand symlinks at all.. I have a dir ~/src that I want too link too a partition mounted on /media/12EXT. how do I do that?
[21:22] <sskalnik> dies_irae:  Some tablets need a few manual steps to mount. I know the Acer Iconia did. Check that thread; seems to have worked for a lot of people.
[21:22] <theadmin> gartral: ln -s /media/12EXT ~/src
[21:22] <Ririsi> Hello. I made a USB-Booter and started Ubuntu installer. I choose language and updater on or off and MP3 plugin things. Then I press next. A black screen with some output info comes. It ends with: CR2:000000000000c024. Help me please
[21:22] <mooorad> hi
[21:22] <nancy--> **ERROR** INITWEB: binding problem - 'Address already in use'(98)
[21:22] <nancy--> Thu Jan 26 21:21:57 2012  Check if another instance of ntop is running
[21:22] <nancy--> Thu Jan 26 21:21:57 2012  or if the current user (-u) can bind to the specified port
[21:22] <nancy--> Thu Jan 26 21:21:57 2012  **FATAL_ERROR** Binding problem, ntop shutting down...
[21:22] <nancy--> Thu Jan 26 21:21:57 2012  CLEANUP[t140085686450336]: ntop caught signal 2 [state=2]
[21:22] <FloodBot1> nancy--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:23] <acerimmer> telltree: might wish to consider staying with LTS Long Term Support releases for comparative stability.  10.04 is the current LTS
[21:23] <dies_irae> sskalnik: that's not the point. I shouldn't do any extra steps.
[21:23] <gartral> theadmin: that will make the contents of /media/12EXT accessable from ~/src, right?
[21:23] <nancy--> cant use ntop
[21:23] <karel_ff> In Unity's 'switch user' menu, there's an option 'Switch user accounts' which doesn't log you out, but rather starts a new X instance. Is there a way to do this via the command line? I've read man gnome-session-quit, but that doesn't seem to be the right place
[21:23] <theadmin> gartral: Correct.
[21:23] <dies_irae> this is causing me 'Emotional Distress'
[21:23] <sskalnik> dies_irae:  Do you want the problem resolved? If so, that thread should help you.
[21:23] <Ririsi> Hello. I made a USB-Booter and started Ubuntu installer. I choose language and updater on or off and MP3 plugin things. Then I press next. A black screen with some output info comes. It ends with: CR2:000000000000c024. Help me please
[21:23] <karel_ff> re
[21:24] <karel_ff> wrong window
[21:24] <telltree> thanks acerimmer.
[21:24] <sskalnik> dies_irae:  If not, afraid we cannot help you, aside from perhaps suggesting you file a bug report.
[21:24] <recon69_lap> hi everyone, anyone know how to get urban terror 64bit to work in 10.04
[21:24] <Ririsi> Hello. I made a USB-Booter and started Ubuntu installer. I choose language and updater on or off and MP3 plugin things. Then I press next. A black screen with some output info comes. It ends with: CR2:000000000000c024. Help me please
[21:24] <Ririsi> Hello. I made a USB-Booter and started Ubuntu installer. I choose language and updater on or off and MP3 plugin things. Then I press next. A black screen with some output info comes. It ends with: CR2:000000000000c024. Help me pleas
[21:24] <Ririsi> SORRY
[21:24] <sskalnik> !patience > Ririsi
[21:24] <nancy--> how to use ntop
[21:24] <nancy--> ?
[21:25] <gartral> theadmin: ok, that wasn't %100 what I wanted. I wanted too remove the two folder deep step and have the contents on /media/12EXT DIRECTLY accessable from ~/src.
[21:25] <theadmin> gartral: Uh, yes, that's how it's going to be.
[21:25] <gartral> theadmin: not ~/src/12EXT
[21:25] <nullucas> pozzz, I read about parley, and it seems like a spaced-repetition program... what I meant was something that runs in the background (like KAlarm) which can also schedule stuff randomly (and I don't think KAlarm can)
[21:25] <theadmin> gartral: Ah, I guess I mistyped the command a bit
[21:25] <Ririsi> I hit the enter button by accident =.= and i am not patient enough lol
[21:26] <theadmin> gartral: Well, actually, no, it seems allright. "~/src" must not exist prior to the command execution, was that the case?
[21:26] <karel_ff> Anyone? unity-greeter also looks promising, but no cigar.
[21:26] <mooorad> hi
[21:26] <sskalnik> nullucas:  Apologies if I am suggesting something to advanced, but that sounds like a job for cron.
[21:26] <gartral> theadmin: incorrect I created ~/src before linking
[21:26] <theadmin> gartral: That's the problem :P
[21:26] <pozzz> drPoO i cannot find any drives in bios. Under MAIN?
[21:26] <sskalnik> Hi mooorad, how might we be of service?
[21:27] <recon69_lap> anyone know how to get urban terror 64bit to work in 10.04
[21:27] <theadmin> gartral: Now so you don't risk data deletion do this: unlink ~/src/12EXT && rmdir ~/src
[21:27] <gartral> Ririsi: An ounce of Patience will carry you farther than a Gallon of Gasoline.
[21:27] <theadmin> gartral: And re-run the ln command
[21:27] <pozzz> nullucas it can display random data from your parley list at a pace you set
[21:28] <Ririsi> gartral: I know.
[21:28] <vasitsiv> I have a partition problem (actually not me, a friend). So he installed linux because winXP got ruined. He had a C: and D: drive. I guided him through phone to delete C: and create a /,/home, and swap partition. After the installation was done, he opened ubuntu and couldn't mount his D: drive. I told him to check gparted and the D: drive was inside the extended partition with /home and swap. How can he read the ntfs partition now?
[21:28] <theadmin> gartral: This also works: mount -R /media/12EXT ~/src
[21:28] <gartral> theadmin: I had already run mkdir src before i came into the channel.
[21:28] <theadmin> gartral: Yeah, I know, that's the problem, the folder doesn't have to exist when you run the ln thing
[21:29] <pozzz> nullucas may I as why do you need randon reminders?
[21:29] <jwmto> Hello,  I am having graphics problems in Gnome 2 (11.10).  Top bar is gibberish and the menu is cracked up.  Can anyone help with this issue?
[21:29] <pozzz> nullucas if not random a callendar should help
[21:29] <theadmin> jwmto: Gnome2 is not supported in Oneiric.
[21:29] <Ririsi> So no one knows anything to help me?
[21:29] <DaniG2k> guys I'm trying to play a DVD but it's not working either with VLC or the default player
[21:30] <sskalnik> Ririsi:  Not at the moment, but you might try the forums or check back later.
[21:30] <jwmto> theadmnin -- typo!  I meant Gnome 3
[21:30] <DaniG2k> how can I check what's going wrong?
[21:30] <gartral> theadmin: after unlinking and removing the ~/src dir, i get ln: target `/home/gareth/src/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[21:30] <jwmto> sorry
[21:30] <Ririsi> sskalnik: okay thank you
[21:30] <redrocket> recon69_lap, used the optimized 64bit version http://www0.org/urt/ioq3-1807-urt-251210-linux64.tar.bz2
[21:30] <karel_ff> Dani2k: is it copy protected?
[21:30] <sskalnik> recon69_lap:  Checked this link? http://www.urbanterror.info/forums/topic/21290-unable-to-start-the-game-under-ubuntu-1004-64-bits-lucid-lynx/
[21:30] <theadmin> gartral: Huhwhat, you're typing that wrong: ln -s /media/12EXT ~/src
[21:30] <theadmin> gartral: You got it the other way around xD
[21:30] <nivyaj> <------------------------------- I'm trying to search my external harddrive and return all my .scala files on it
[21:30] <redrocket> beat you to it sskalnik :)
[21:30] <nivyaj> how do i do it?
[21:31] <sskalnik> redrocket:  ;) Too slow
[21:31] <gartral> theadmin: that is indeed what I'm typing, as per your original instruction
[21:31] <theadmin> nivyaj: find /media/blah -iname '*.scala' -print 2>/dev/null
[21:31] <karel_ff> Gotta run
[21:31] <theadmin> gartral: Huh... Wait, weird.
[21:31] <pozzz> drPoO basikly NO drives are listed in bios
[21:31] <nivyaj> theadmin: how do i specify my external hd?
[21:31] <pozzz> *basicly
[21:32] <theadmin> nivyaj: Just whereever you mount it
[21:32] <pozzz> *basically got it this time
[21:32] <recon69_lap>  redrocket , thats the one i'm using, there is a verified bug, just wondering if a fix is available
[21:32] <jwmto> Is there a channel dedicated to Gnome 3 ?
[21:32] <nullucas> pozzz, I'd like to experiment with learning methods, memory, attention, etc. I guess I'll try cron with some randomizing script then
[21:32] <nivyaj> theadmin: .... sorry.  I want to search a specific directory in it.
[21:32] <redrocket> recon69_lap, that was supposed to be the fix  o.0
[21:32] <nivyaj> I know how to access it in DOS, but Ubuntu,  I don't know which drive it sees it as
[21:32] <pozzz> nullucas ok, good luck with that!
[21:33] <acerimmer> jwmto: http://www.gnome.org/
[21:33] <jwmto> thanx Ace
[21:33] <theadmin> nivyaj: Hard drives are /dev/sdXY, you need to mount them first. This might do the trick: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt && find /mnt -iname '*.scala' -print 2>/dev/null
[21:33] <acerimmer> jwmto: #gnome
[21:34] <recon69_lap> redrocket: give me a second to get the bug report
[21:34] <gartral> theadmin: just too confirm.. that proper command according too you is ln -s /media/12EXT/ ~/src/
[21:34] <theadmin> gartral: Without the trailing slashes, normally, as in: ln -s /media/12EXT ~/src
[21:35] <LukeNukem_> hello can someone help me please, it asked me what type of installation i want and i selected install along windows, so it splited up size for windows and ubuntu on its own, how can i change this? and just select a partition for ubuntu
[21:35] <gartral> theadmin: AHHAH
[21:35] <nivyaj> theadmin: i think i got it.
[21:35] <nivyaj> thanks :)
[21:35] <LukeNukem_> ??
[21:35] <Ivoz_> How can I blacklist the nvidia_current module?
[21:35] <theadmin> Ivoz_: echo "blacklist nvidia_current" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:36] <d-snutz> select do something else and manually partition likenukem
[21:36] <d-snutz> lukenukem
[21:36] <gartral> theadmin: my mind has a tendency too not distinguish when a new folder/line needs too be declared, lol
[21:36] <vasitsiv> I have a partition problem (actually not me, a friend). So he installed linux because winXP got ruined. He had a C: and D: drive. I guided him through phone to delete C: and create a /,/home, and swap partition. After the installation was done, he opened ubuntu and couldn't mount his D: drive. I told him to check gparted and the D: drive was inside the extended partition with /home and swap. How can he read the ntfs partition now?
[21:36] <pozzz> drPoO, Jordan_U, bean:  thank you for your help
[21:36] <Ivoz_> theadmin: do you know if that's what it's called?
[21:36] <vasitsiv> if no1 knows, can you point somewhere that I can find some info?
[21:36] <theadmin> Ivoz_: Not sure what Ubuntu calls em, sorry, in my case it'd be just "nvidia" but then again I'm not on Ubuntu
[21:37] <recon69_lap> this is the problem i'm having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433663 , i'll poke at it a bit more
[21:37] <gartral> theadmin: will I need too relink this when I pull/insert the drive that the 12EXT partition resides on?
[21:37] <theadmin> Ivoz_: lsmod | grep nvidia # Might help
[21:37] <Ivoz_> theadmin: I only have access to the filesystem right now, the kernel won't boot... guess why
[21:37] <theadmin> gartral: No, the link is permanent, the system will just report it as "broken" when the drive is missing or mounted elsewhere
[21:37] <hydrox24> vasitsiv: strange issue, I guess it's just a rather obscure problem
[21:37] <gartral> theadmin: understood, perfect, thank you so much
[21:38] <theadmin> Ivoz_: Heh I see, boot with this as your kernel parameters: rw init=/bin/bash
[21:38] <theadmin> Ivoz_: Kind of always-working recovery mode xD
[21:38] <recon69_lap> redrocket: is it possible that both versions have the same filename
[21:38] <vasitsiv> hydrox24: yup.. he needs the files that are in the ntfs drive and I can't help him :/
[21:39] <Ivoz_> theadmin: this is in modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf: http://pastie.org/3259135
[21:39] <hydrox24> vasitsiv: so why can't he mount it? what's the error exactly?
[21:40] <theadmin> Ivoz_: Again, I'm not sure what on Earth is the current Ubuntu module naming scheme, sorry
[21:40] <Ivoz_> theadmin: I also have an xorg.conf which I'm guessing will fuck things up if I don't change it :/
[21:40] <Ivoz_> theadmin: how do I put in kernel parameters while booting?
[21:41] <theadmin> Ivoz_: You can very well just delete the xorg.conf for X to autoconfigure -_- Also, as for the kernel params, you need to get to the GRUB menu (Escape in pre-Karmic, Left Shift in post-Karmic) and it should be pretty obvious from there, just edit the kernel line, replace the "ro" with "rw" and add init=/bin/bash at the end
[21:41] <recon69_lap> vasitsiv: have you tried using a live cd and mounting the ntfs drive to that, no idea if that would help though
[21:41] <hydrox24> Ivoz_: you can edit them in grub by hitting the e key while on the relevant kernel line
[21:41] <h00k> !language | Ivoz_
[21:41] <vasitsiv> hydrox24: the ntfs is a logical partition inside the extended partition. It doesn't appear in nautilus.
[21:42] <Ivoz_> I get grub alright because I dual-boot, currently running windows
[21:42] <hydrox24> Ivoz_: OK then, just hit the e key to edit the kernel boot lines
[21:42] <OerHeks> !ntfs-3g
[21:43] <recon69_lap> vasitsiv: have you tried using the 'disk utility' to mount the drive
[21:43] <hydrox24> vasitsiv: do you know which device it is under /dev?
[21:43] <dies_irae> sskalnik: still not shouwing up
[21:43] <vasitsiv> recon69_lap: yes, didnt work
[21:43] <vasitsiv> hydrox24: yes, /dev/sda5. I tried mount from terminal, didnt work
[21:44] <dies_irae> why isn't MTP installed by default in ubuntu???
[21:44] <hydrox24> vasitsiv: how did you try to mount it?
[21:45] <pozzz> have you checked with fdisk -l what type of disk is that, vasitsiv
[21:45] <rdsm> vasitsiv,  and what was the error message?
[21:45] <theadmin> dies_irae: We can't preinstall everything xD I personally don't even know what MTP even is
[21:45] <vasitsiv> hydrox24: sudo mount /dev/sda5 I think
[21:45] <hydrox24> ok try:
[21:45] <dies_irae> tablets are ubiqutious nowadays ferdamnt!!
[21:45] <iceroot> dies_irae: what is mtp?
[21:45] <vasitsiv> pozzz: yes its ntfs
[21:45] <pozzz> if it is really NTFS,  oh, ok
[21:45] <vasitsiv> rdsm: I wait for my friend to tell me the msg
[21:45] <dies_irae> iceroot: to mount tablets with android storage.
[21:45] <iceroot> and how to use regex on apt-cache search? like apt-cache search ^mtp
[21:46] <hydrox24> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/mountpoint
[21:46] <dies_irae> if there's ntfs pre-installed mts should be as well.
[21:46] <vasitsiv> rdsm, hydrox24: mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:46] <hydrox24> but you'll have to make the mountpoint folderr inside media
[21:46] <iceroot> dies_irae: what is the difference between an android tablet and an android phone?
[21:46] <nancy-> vnstat
[21:46] <nancy->                       rx      /      tx      /     total    /   estimated
[21:46] <rdsm> vasitsiv, so all you need to do is what hydrox24 just said.
[21:46] <nancy->  eth0: Not enough data available yet.
[21:46] <nancy->  lo: Not enough data available yet.
[21:46] <iceroot> dies_irae: because i can mount my android phone without any problems because its a normal partition
[21:46] <FloodBot1> nancy-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <rdsm> nancy-, use pastebin.
[21:46] <nancy-> k
[21:46] <pozzz> <mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force> ???   replacing the appropriate bits, vasitsiv
[21:46] <theadmin> iceroot: Quite like that, yes, apt-cache searches for regular expressions with the "search" tool
[21:46] <theadmin> err command
[21:46] <theadmin> Argument
[21:47] <iceroot> theadmin: hm
[21:47] <theadmin> Sorry, it's 1:45 AM, I can't think straight.
[21:47] <vasitsiv> hydrox24, pozzz: working on it.. I will tell you sortly
[21:47] <iceroot> theadmin: hm working, dont know what i did wrong the last times
[21:47] <redrocket> recon69_lap, it says that it only replaces the executable of the build.
[21:47] <theadmin> iceroot: You need to enclose the expression in quotes to avoid bash from doing funny things to it
[21:47] <nancy-> can anyone help?
[21:47] <iceroot> theadmin: apt-cache search ^mtp  is running fine here
[21:48] <dies_irae> nancy-: yes sweetheart, what u need?? ;)
[21:48] <nancy-> dies_irae,  you saw the vnstat msg
[21:48] <dies_irae> nancy-: use pastebin plz
[21:48] <vasitsiv> hydrox24: http://paste.ubuntu.com/818188/
[21:48] <go8765> help me please to find way to show in conky ppp0 connection speed. i need not real time speed. only connection. thanks
[21:49] <theadmin> iceroot: That would, but say, apt-cache search (k|g|lx)dm wouldn't work well with Bash
[21:49] <Kwinto> Hi all, how this works - "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^", I mean what is the magic with caret symbol?
[21:49] <rdsm> vasitsiv, had you read the message and is sure that you don't fit any of the mentioned situation?
[21:49] <pozzz> the command taken from <http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/> Joe had a suggestionto add “-r” or “-o ro” flags to use readonly when mounting the drive. , vasitsiv
[21:49] <iceroot> theadmin: yes you are right, bash is expanding it first
[21:50] <auk> Kwinto: I guess to install anything with the word "lamp-server^" in it.
[21:50] <recon69_lap> redrocket: ioUrbanTerror.x86_64 -> 1.8 MB (1917090 bytes) Sat 22 Dec 2007 15:12:56 GMT , does that match
[21:50] <iceroot> Kwinto: you want "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"
[21:50] <LukeNukem_> theadmin: can you help me please?
[21:50] <theadmin> LukeNukem_: Why me lol
[21:50] <dies_irae> nancy-: pastebin would be better, in addition some explanation about your problem. I can't magically find out about it.
[21:50] <Syph3r> where can i find the folder for conkyrc
[21:50] <LukeNukem_> theadmin: cos you are teh admin
[21:50] <theadmin> LukeNukem_: Doesn't mean I know everything.
[21:50] <go8765> Syph3r: in ~
[21:51] <pozzz> vasitsiv for whatcI can say is taht you can do a check using CD live, vasitsiv
[21:51] <auk> Kwinto: The apt package manager will show all the packages that need to be installed. Hit <Enter> to confirm that you want to install them.
[21:51] <go8765> Syph3r: it use /HOME/.conkyrc
[21:51] <Kwinto> Thanks, I just was wondering in "mechanic" of this
[21:51] <auk> Kwinto: It's better to do this:         sudo apt-get install mysql-server                    THEN run: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[21:51] <Syph3r> go8765: looked there with the ls -la command nothing showed up
[21:51] <auk> Kwinto: as phpmyadmin would install some cool php5 stuff along with it.
[21:52] <go8765> Syph3r: thi is strage. i use this folder
[21:52] <hydrox24> Sorry, ran out of battery
[21:53] <go8765> Syph3r: may be if you use standart config it dont do this file, so you can do it manually
[21:53] <Syph3r> go8765: ok thank you, i will go and check again and if its not there i will make it by hand
[21:54] <vasitsiv> ok thnx, I will try livecd
[21:54] <recon69_lap> now that i think of it cant be 2007 or looking at wrong file
[21:54] <hydrox24> who was I helping with the NTFS /dev/sda5 thing?
[21:54] <Kurdistan> I can any one help me. kwin effects/compositoring only works if I run kwin from terminal or  KWIN_COMPOSE=O kwin --replace
[21:54] <pozzz> vasitsiv and choose to run a check so taht you don't have to do it under windows
[21:55] <nancy-> can anyone help at this. http://pastebin.ca/2106601    ?
[21:55] <pozzz> hydrox24 was it vasitsiv?
[21:55] <redrocket> recon69_lap, so you had Ut installed then applied that link posted into the executable binary directory? and ran ./ioq3-urt
[21:55] <TK5791> can anyone help me mount a network drive in Ubuntu?
[21:55] <hydrox24> Maybe
[21:55] <vasitsiv> pozzz: I told him to put a windows cd and run chkdsk /f also as its ruined
[21:56] <vasitsiv> the problem is that his dvd-drive is messed up
[21:56] <Ririshi> Hello. I am installing Ubuntu 11.10 right now. It shows a black screen with white output data. Is it normal? The cursor is there and it's turning.(a loading cursor)
[21:56] <Kwinto> Another Q, I put my web scripts in user's home directory, how can I make them accessible by server without changing apache's run user? Chgrp'ing the directory and scripts to www-data does nothing as I still getting 403-Forbidden
[21:56] <pozzz> vasitsiv can you use a USB stick?
[21:57] <pozzz> to make a live CD on a USB stick?
[21:57] <vasitsiv> pozzz: yes but he doesnt have winXP in usb:P I made him a usb live-cd linux and thats how he formated
[21:58] <pozzz> vasitsiv is it you who has the problem? I/m confuesd :?
[21:58] <DaemonFool> hi all
[21:58] <Ririshi> pozzz: is it normal that there comes a black screen with white letters when installing Ubuntu?
[21:58] <vasitsiv> pozzz: no its a friend of mine:P
[21:58] <pozzz> vasitsiv oh, ok
[21:59] <DaemonFool> yes Ririshi
[21:59] <pozzz> Ririshi sorry but I don't remember. just wait and see
[21:59] <pozzz> how long has that been on?
[21:59] <Kurdistan> anyone?
[21:59] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: Thank you. Fine to know. How long will it be there?
[21:59] <vasitsiv> pozzz: he will try some times to boot the winxp and fix the ntfs. If that doesn't happen I will tell him to try live cd and see if it mounts (but I doubt it:()
[21:59] <Kurdistan> how can I see if some driver are blacklisted?
[22:00] <Ririshi> pozzz: it was there for about 5 mins now.
[22:00] <TK5791> anyone know how to mount network drive?
[22:00] <Ririshi> I'm on my iPod noe.
[22:00] <auk> Ririshi: It's suppose to tell you how long it'll be before the system installs, either by time, or by the progress bar.
[22:00] <TK5791> my dictionary doesn't work in LibreOffice, anyone know how to fix?
[22:00] <pozzz> he can use the usb live-cd linux to do the HHD check, vasitsiv
[22:00] <bastidrazor> Kurdistan: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | grep -i driveryouwant
[22:00] <vasitsiv> pozzz: will it fix the ntfs partition?
[22:01] <DaemonFool> ubuntu installation isn't too difficult...
[22:01] <go8765> Syph3r: http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[22:01] <pozzz> vasitsiv, reboot, choose to do the check
[22:01] <bastidrazor> Kurdistan: or better yet..   grep -i driver /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:01] <DaemonFool> what versione are you installing?
[22:01] <Ririshi> auk: I chose language and then I didn't check 3rd party and update. I pressed next. Then after about 10 seconds, the black screen came.
[22:01] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: i am installing 11.10
[22:01] <jeagle> Anyone know how to make a multi-page pdf text-readable via the command line? :)
[22:02] <pozzz> Daniel
[22:02] <pozzz> Great tip. I�ve been using this strategy for several months, but I would run the “ntfsfix /dev/yourfixeddisk” command before trying to mount with the ntfs-3g module. This fixes the partition errors and therefore there is no need to do the “-force” option in the mounted partition., vasitsiv
[22:02] <pllum> ciao
[22:02] <DaemonFool> what about the text?
[22:02] <DaemonFool> ciao
[22:02] <pozzz> vasitsiv, that is from this page http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdftotext
[22:03] <pozzz> Ririshi too long I think
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: i've used a related tool, pdftohtml, it worked okay
[22:03] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: the last line is: CR2: 00000000579d041c
[22:03] <Socket-> How do I make this line: tail -f --lines=20 /var/log/auth.log |grep ssh   show the last 20 occurences of ssh instead of the last 20 lines and only those with ssh in it
[22:03] <go8765> Syph3r: lol http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=FAQ#Where_did_the_default_.conkyrc_go.3F_I_ran_conky_and_looked_in_my_home_directory.2C_and_I_couldn.27t_find_it.21
[22:03] <vasitsiv> pozzz: thanks
[22:04] <Kurdistan> bastidrazor, thx. I have finally got kwin effects working with nvidia 295.* (beta) drivers. that only if I run kwin from terminal or KWIN_COMPOSE=O kwin --replace.
[22:04] <go8765> Syph3r: shortest http://goo.gl/M3gVY
[22:04] <Kurdistan> what can I do?
[22:04] <recon69_lap> redrocket: think the applied that link is causing the problems, i got a archive, how do i apply it
[22:04] <Ririshi> pozzz: what to do? Do you think I CAN even install it?
[22:04] <urlin2u> So on 11.10 anybody having any problems with synaptic opening and closing immediatelydjy7WmNIP
[22:04] <pozzz> Ririshi Have you tried it without installing?
[22:04] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Yeah I just need to make it text readable. Does it convert it to another format? It has to stay in pdf when I'm done. :3
[22:04] <EagleScreen> I have copied wubi.exe from 11.10 disc to do an installation inside Windows, and it has installed the current snaphot of 12.04 instead of 11.10 version
[22:05] <DaemonFool> Ririshi it's the first time you try to install it?
[22:05] <pozzz> If you did, was it ok?
[22:05] <Ririshi> pozzz: just start from the CD you mean?
[22:05] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: i don't think there is utility that can just 'read' it on the fly and keep it as it is
[22:05] <mooorad> how can i disable apache2 autorun at bootup?
[22:05] <bastidrazor> Kurdistan: possibly, look in ~/.xsession-errors for reasons to why it fails
[22:05] <epaphus> Hello, does nagios exist in the ubuntu reps?
[22:05] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: I didn't have any kind of Linux before.
[22:05] <bastidrazor> !find nagios | mooorad
[22:06] <pozzz> Ririshi yes
[22:06] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: but you'll get the pdf then it's text form as 2 different files, that's how it was with pdftohtml
[22:06] <pozzz> run Ubuntu from the Live CD (or usb drive)
[22:06] <Ririshi> pozzz: I will try it. First stop this one xd
[22:07] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: ok, so it outputed the text as a text file, how would I layer the text then on the pdf? :)
[22:07] <urlin2u> sorry for the repeat i have run the sudo dpkg --configure -a  & sudo apt-get -f install  and purged and reload synaptic.  So on 11.10 anybody having any problems with synaptic opening and closing immediately
[22:07] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Thank you for helping me!^-^
[22:07] <Kurdistan> bastidrazor, I can not see any wierd thing there.
[22:07] <pozzz> Ririshi make sure your HHD is ok
[22:07] <pozzz> Ririshi I hope your data is safe
[22:07] <DaemonFool> use unetbootin for the usb. it's easy to put it into the usb with the boot manager
[22:08] <Ririshi> pozzz: starting now. I hope so yes
[22:08] <recon69_lap> ok, reads down the page and finds the instructions , i deserve a good slap for being stupid , thx redrocket
[22:08] <mooorad> how can i disable apache2 autorun at bootup? I'm using ubuntu 11.04
[22:08] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: I used Unetbootin for making it.
[22:08] <DaemonFool> ok then ;)
[22:09] <pozzz> Ririshi if you start and stop installation you may end up with no operating system on your computer
[22:09] <Ririshi> WOW A SOUND CAME OUT OF MY SPEAKERS!! Eifovkskcjwjf
[22:09] <bastidrazor> epaphus: it does.
[22:09] <Ririshi> IT STARTED!!!
[22:09] <Kurdistan> basepi, it looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/818199/
[22:09] <auk> Ririshi: Welcome to Ubuntu. :3
[22:09] <DaemonFool> xD
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: what do you mean 'layer the text'?
[22:09] <auk> How long did it take for it to boot?
[22:09] <pozzz> untill you succeed of course
[22:09] <Ririshi> About 1 minute
[22:09] <Ririshi> No
[22:09] <epaphus> bastidrazor, why doesnt apt-get install nagios work though??
[22:09] <Ririshi> Half a minute
[22:09] <auk> epaphus: pastebin results please.
[22:10] <Ririshi> NOOO
[22:10] <bastidrazor> epaphus: try nagios3
[22:10] <Ririshi> My mouse is frozen?!!!!
[22:10] <pozzz> epaphus; sudo?
[22:11] <Ririshi> pozzz:auk:DaemonFool: HELP THE MOUSE IS FROZEN
[22:11] <pozzz> Ririshi are you alive?
[22:11] <Ririshi> pozzz: Yes i am.
[22:11] <DaemonFool> is it usb?
[22:11] <pozzz> Ririshi can you use the keyboard?
[22:11] <true__> DaemonFool
[22:11] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: yes I run it from usb. pozzz: How do i test?
[22:12] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Ok, for example, when you have a PDF file, you want to be able to select or highlight text. So you have to use OCR or some other way to recognize text and it layers it on top of the pdf file.
[22:12] <auk> Ririshi: Push the SUPER button.            That being the dumb windows logo key :(
[22:12] <pozzz> Ririshi the mouse? is it via the USB?
[22:12] <DaemonFool> try to disconnect and reconnect the mouse
[22:12] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: Okay pozzz: it is an USB mouse.
[22:13] <nancy-> kbit/s    is kilobits           not kilobyts?
[22:13] <DaemonFool> kbibits
[22:13] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: My posts are really delayed today. @.@
[22:13] <pozzz> Ririshi reconnected the mouse?
[22:13] <nancy-> DaemonFool,  there are 8 bits in one byte
[22:14] <Ririshi> pozzz: Reconnected. No response
[22:14] <pozzz> how about the keyboard?
[22:14] <ksbalaji> I am now-a-days, while booting,  getting message that power management app. is still running with a log-out-anyway tab. It seems unusual. I click the tab to proceed. Guidance please?
[22:14] <Ririshi> pozzz: No response either...
[22:15] <nancy-> kbit/s    is kilobits           not kilobyts?          there are 8 bits in one byte.  so if vnstat says its  rx is 269 Kbit/s        its 269 kilobits per second. not 269 kilobyts per second ?
[22:15] <DaemonFool> but there are 1000 bytes in 1 kilobyte
[22:15] <forteller> Hi all. I'm having big issues with a Ubuntu derivative distro (Peppermint), and I can't find help anywhere else. Is it cool if I ask here?
[22:15] <pozzz> remind me, are you on liveCD or is it already installed? Ririshi
[22:15] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: no, there are 1024 in one kilobyte
[22:15] <Ririshi> pozzz: LiveUSB
[22:15] <LjL> forteller: sorry but no, we have a policy of keeping it about Ubuntu proper, because there are too many possible things that are different in derivatives
[22:15] <pozzz> Ririshi oh, ok same thing
[22:16] <Ririshi> pozzz: yeah
[22:16] <Ririshi> pozzz: now what?
[22:16] <pozzz> strange, Ririshi, no idea
[22:16] <ksbalaji> OS 10.04 -I am now-a-days, while booting,  getting message that power management app. is still running with a log-out-anyway tab. It seems unusual. I click the tab to proceed. Can I avoid this please?
[22:16] <DaemonFool> ririshi try to restart
[22:16] <Ririshi> pozzz: maybe my hardware?
[22:16] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: Okay
[22:16] <DaemonFool> surely not usb mouse
[22:17] <starte> hey I just downloaded all my music from google music using the google music manager and I'm try to import those files into banshee. it can't do it and it's a "cannot rollback" error
[22:17] <Ririshi> DaemonFool: i mean mainboard and other graphical stuff
[22:17] <pozzz> do you meet the minimum requirements?
[22:17] <starte> does banshee just suck?
[22:17] <forteller> LjL: I understand. Any thoughts on where I can go to get help faster than on a forum, then? I can't log in at all, you see, and I need to fix it ASAP… :(
[22:17] <LjL> forteller: could try ##linux
[22:17] <auronandace> !mint | forteller
[22:18] <Ririshi> pozzz: minimum requirements? Didn't see?!
[22:18] <pozzz> starte I prefer VLC
[22:18] <starte> pozzz: I kinda want the iTunes-like media player on ubuntu tho. Is vlc better on ubuntu? i have it on my mac
[22:18] <forteller> LjL, auronandace: Ok, thank you!
[22:18] <dlentz> starte i know plenty of people on both sides o f the banshee fence
[22:19] <dlentz> that's not really a support question though ;)
[22:19] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Any thoughts ?^-^
[22:19] <pozzz> it is not that complex, I would say. Can you use Amarok? starte
[22:19] <auronandace> starte: vlc is indeed awesome
[22:19] <DaemonFool> 1 kilobyte = 1000 bytes - 1 kibibyte = 1024 bytes ...no? ;)
[22:19] <Ririshi> pozzz: what are the minimum requirements?
[22:19] <starte> dlentz: kinda got off topic haha. but im gettin an error message when I'm trying to import
[22:19] <pozzz> auronandace yes, plays everything (almost
[22:19] <Ririshi> MOUSE WORKS AFTER RESTART ON LIVECD
[22:20] <DaemonFool> wow
[22:20] <auronandace> !caps | Ririshi
[22:20] <starte> ririshi: it's a great feeling isnt it
[22:20] <pozzz> Ririshi gooood
[22:20] <pozzz> ubottu just excitement
[22:20] <mangcool> lol ubottu
[22:20] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: yes sounds possible
[22:20] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Hoping I fixed this huge lag issue. lol
[22:20] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Yay I did!^-^
[22:20] <starte> so has anyone tried to import music files into banshee?
[22:21] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: i've never used pdftotext so i don't know how accurate it is
[22:21] <mangcool> why not use VLC?
[22:21] <starte> well I like the library interface
[22:21] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: I've been searching for days... It's really tough finding a solution... To be honest, I don't care about accuracy, I just need to select the text and highlight it. :)
[22:21] <pozzz> starte try bansee irc
[22:21] <pozzz> *banshee
[22:22] <starte> pozzz: why didnt i think of that? haha will do
[22:22] <pozzz> just a suggestin
[22:22] <auronandace> starte: you could try exaile or clementine
[22:22] <DaemonFool> this is great https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/
[22:22] <Ririshi> So now I pressed system settings. And such a black thing came up.. Executing a long row of command things. Now it sticks.. Saying "CR2: 00000000fffffffc" on the last line.
[22:22] <mister2> is it possible to copy all the programs in an installation elsewhere in .deb form? Or extract them in some manner?
[22:22] <pozzz> clementine is  good, my bro says
[22:22] <Ririshi> Mouse froze too.
[22:22] <starte> well now I'm the mod of #banshee
[22:22] <starte> nobody was there
[22:23] <pozzz> Ririshi no idea
[22:23] <forteller> starte, pozzz I agree: Clementine is great :)
[22:23] <iceroot> !clone | mister2
[22:23] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: I'm wrting a script that merges several file types into one MASTER pdf file. then It has to have text-readable functionality added to it.
[22:23] <iceroot> !aptoncd | mister2
[22:23] <mister2> awesome!!
[22:23] <mister2> thanks guys
[22:23] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Very tough, though pdftotext seems to be promissing if I can layer them on top of eachother. :)
[22:24] <Ririshi> pozzz: I will make a new USB booter. With 1 GB of ubuntu place.
[22:24] <iceroot> jeagle: pdftk is your friend
[22:24] <starte> does the ubuntu software center just suddenly go blank when you open it? or is it just me?
[22:24] <starte> and this is "on occasion"
[22:24] <aeon-ltd> jeagle: ok, good luck with project
[22:24] <DaemonFool> no it was for me too starte
[22:24] <starte> daemonfool: any way to not have that happen?
[22:25] <jeagle> iceroot: :O I'll take a look! if memory serves me right, PDFTK doesn't preserve book marks but think I can avoid that! Thanks! :)
[22:25] <jeagle> aeon-ltd: Thank you so much for your help^^
[22:25] <iceroot> jeagle: dont know never used bookmarks
[22:25] <DaemonFool> i don't know, after a few days it came normal
[22:25] <recon69_lap> yeee, got it to start, but i started it in safe video mode and now it in a little window, urban terror is right
[22:25] <jeagle> iceroot: Thank you so much for your help! I think I can figure it out from here! :)
[22:26] <starte> thats dumb.
[22:26] <chipmonk> i have a pcie 16x slot and want to upgrade video what will run with linux ie which video supports ubuntu best
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> chipmonk: nvidia
[22:26] <iceroot> jeagle: there are nice tutorials out there for pdftk, it is very powerfull and perfect for merging pdfs with many many options (some you will never need)
[22:26] <iceroot> chipmonk: nvidia
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> chipmonk: except for the obscure ones
[22:26] <starte> chipmonk: Nvida
[22:27] <pozzz> Ririshi check the hardware requirements
[22:27] <starte> you gotta capitalize the N
[22:27] <DaemonFool> anybody knows if ubuntu server is only command line?
[22:27] <jeagle> iceroot: Well, right now I use a script that joins PDF's and uses Ghost Script to merge and bookmark with pdfmarks
[22:27] <pozzz> Ririshi maybe your computer is too old?
[22:27] <starte> daemonfool: i think you might have to install updates
[22:27] <starte> daemonfool: not sure
[22:27] <DaemonFool> ok thanks
[22:28] <iceroot> jeagle: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2969479/merge-pdfs-with-pdftk-with-bookmarks
[22:28] <jeagle> iceroot: So far everything works, but I think to circumvent it, before I merge, when I convert each file type I can try pdftk to join text files with the PDF. :)
[22:28] <pozzz> Ririshi but I cannot find the right page. It should be next to your download link or somewhere
[22:28] <iceroot> jeagle: hm maybe my link is not the best
[22:28] <pozzz> ok. goodbye everyone
[22:29] <jeagle> iceroot: I've seen that, ghost script seems to be a little better since it preserves pre-existing bookmarks. :)
[22:29] <iceroot> jeagle: or build anything in LaTeX :) your pdfs and normal text-files (but i guess its an overkill)
[22:29] <jeagle> iceroot: haha yeah! All the code is written, I think you have given me enough info to make pdftk work before I join with ghost script! :)
[22:30] <Ririshi> pozzz: wikipedia says 700MHz processor, 384 MiB RAM, 5GB HDD Space, 1024x768 Resolution.
[22:30] <jeagle> iceroot: Thanks! I'll let you know if it works if you're still around. :)
[22:30] <iceroot> jeagle: i am always around here (but not always on the pc but see every highlight i get)
[22:31] <jeagle> iceroot: Excellent I'll let you know! Hopefully I can finish this tonight haha!
[22:32] <recon69_lap> ok, how do i get urban terror to open full screen anyonre
[22:32] <Ririshi> pozzz: I am making a new Boot-USB now.
[22:32] <snarenait> this is the future!
[22:32] <cjuner> A lot of people here may be interested in this petition against the ratification of ACTA by the EU parliament: http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/
[22:32] <dies_irae> android not mounted
[22:32] <LjL> !ot | cjuner
[22:32] <Ririshi> Lol
[22:33] <TheTinyToon> A Question regarding the Ubuntu Developer Week: Trying to install the lernid-package, it seems most dependencies are unauthenticated, despite being in the right repo. Anyone who has the same Problem?
[22:33] <dies_irae> how to mount with mtpfs?? I got 800 snes games I need to transfer ASAP!!
[22:33] <aBound> /mode $me +x
[22:33] <iceroot> dies_irae: android is mounted like any other ext device
[22:34] <aBound> Blah!
[22:34] <iceroot> dies_irae: sudo mount /mnt/foo/ /dev/sdx1 (replace x with the drive)
[22:34] <Ririshi> pozzz: almost done making new booter
[22:34] <dies_irae> iceroot: k
[22:35] <bastidrazor> iceroot: isn't that syntax in reverse? /dev/... should be first then the mount point 2nd?
[22:35] <iceroot> dies_irae: there is nothin special needed and no mtp is needed, its a normal partition
[22:35] <TheTinyToon> could anyone try to install the lernid-package please?
[22:35] <forteller> How do I get to Grub while booting? I've tried holding Shift, Tab, Esc, Del. Nothing works.
[22:35] <iceroot> bastidrazor: yes of course
[22:35] <dies_irae> iceroot: usbfs: process 9371 (mtpfs) did not claim interface 0 before use
[22:35] <iceroot> dies_irae: sudo mount /dev/sdx1 /mnt/foo/
[22:35] <dlentz> TheTinyToon, what ubuntu version?
[22:36] <TheTinyToon> dlentz: Natty
[22:36] <dlentz> works fine on precise :\
[22:36] <lmontrieux> TheTinyToon, works well on 11.10
[22:37] <TheTinyToon> dlentz: bleh, meant 11.10
[22:37] <cjuner> LjL, consider it a public protest.
[22:37] <iceroot> jeagle: http://maketecheasier.com/combine-multiple-pdf-files-with-pdftk/2010/02/22  very usefull, i am often using that
[22:37] <TheTinyToon> lmontrieux: could you apt-cache showpkg lernid and give me the ppa you're using?
[22:37] <iceroot> jeagle: just found it in my firefox-bookmarks
[22:37] <dies_irae> iceroot: interesting is mounted already, however, there's only ONE empty folder, 'Playlists'
[22:38] <iceroot> dies_irae: sudo fdisk -l to see the partitons of your device
[22:38] <iceroot> dies_irae: my android is providing two partitons, / and /sdcard
[22:38] <jeagle> iceroot: Thank you Iceroot, though my problem is not joining pdfs :) I have all that solved. my problem is layering text over a pdf so a user can select text on a pdf document. :)
[22:38] <Ririshi> I'm going to sleep guys. I'll try it tomorrow. I got school until 3 so it'll be wuite late.
[22:38] <dies_irae> for being linux based Android is making it hell'vu convoluted!!
[22:38] <Ririshi> Quite*
[22:39] <iceroot> jeagle: ah ok... that sounds... strange :)
[22:39] <lmontrieux> TheTinyToon, 0.8.2.2~lr2 (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu.retrosnub.co.uk_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
[22:39] <iceroot> jeagle: luckily i never had to fight with something like that
[22:39] <lmontrieux> TheTinyToon, ... which isn't a ppa, it's an "official" repo mirror
[22:39] <iceroot> dies_irae: also see #android
[22:39] <jeagle> iceroot: yeah haha. It's a tough hurdle I think! haha
[22:39] <iceroot> jeagle: everything else would be boring
[22:40] <TheTinyToon> lmontrieux: yup, figured...
[22:40] <TheTinyToon> lmontrieux: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade fixed the problem, I guess the keychain was out of sync
[22:40] <recon69_lap> ok, urban terror now works :-D, thx everyone for the help, i'm off to shoot so noobs :P
[22:40] <TheTinyToon> lmontrieux: thanks for the help! :)
[22:40] <jeagle> iceroot: yeah haha! but pdftotext is interesting, now if there is something out there that can layer it on top of a pdf, that would be awesome haha.
[22:41] <jeagle> iceroot: it's definitely made my brain hurt trying to get it to work ha!
[22:41] <sprzybilla> ahoy mateys, if I want to change my screen excapt from ctrl-a to ctrl-o I need to add 'escape ^o' to my ~/.screenrc correct?
[22:41] <sprzybilla> escape*
[22:41] <iceroot> jeagle: maybe imagemagick can act on pdfs too
[22:42] <iceroot> jeagle: it can do exactly what you want on images
[22:42] <jeagle> iceroot: Yeah, I was looking at that. but doesn't it only do one page at a time?
[22:42] <jeagle> iceroot: I have tif files that are multiple pages in length :(
[22:42] <iceroot> jeagle: that should be no problem for imagemagick
[22:43] <iceroot> jeagle: an image always only have one page
[22:43] <jeagle> iceroot: hmm. I'll take a look.
[22:43] <jeagle> iceroot: I would agree with that logic, however, somehow these tif files have like 2-3 pages lol
[22:43] <iceroot> jeagle: but only in size
[22:44] <iceroot> jeagle: or real pages?
[22:44] <jeagle> iceroot: I'm not sure what you mean? :)
[22:45] <iceroot> jeagle: i think its just confusing here
[22:45] <iceroot> jeagle: and dont brings a better solution to you
[22:45] <Akiva> what is the name of the notification daemon? I want to edit it so it notifies me when certain keywords in IRC are used.
[22:45] <undecim> How difficult is it to boot a 11.10 thumb drive on a Mac?
[22:45] <abstrakt> how do I prevent updating the kernel?
[22:46] <hydrox24> abstrakt: uncheck the four kernel updates everytime in the update manager
[22:46] <abstrakt> hydrox24, really? every time? that's lame
[22:46] <iceroot> abstrakt: set the metapackage on hold
[22:46] <iceroot> abstrakt: but why?
[22:46] <abstrakt> i thought there was something I could add to i.e. my /etc/apt.conf or something
[22:46] <abstrakt> iceroot, i'm just distrustful of kernel updates
[22:47] <undecim> abstrakt: distrustful?
[22:47] <iceroot> abstrakt: they are important for security fixes
[22:47] <jeagle> iceroot: haha, yeah, well, even if I can get imagemagick to convert a tiff to pdf like... " convert (insert make text readable command) inpute.tif output.pdf "
[22:47] <abstrakt> esp when running e.g. nvidia drivers and other 3rd party drivers
[22:47] <dies_irae> iceroot: got it!!
[22:47] <jeagle> iceroot: Ideally that is what I'm trying to do. :)
[22:47] <OerHeks> !pinning
[22:47] <spartan2276> What is the command in CLI for shutting down a server
[22:47] <dies_irae> still mtpfs should be installed and set up by default to support Android tablets.
[22:48] <iceroot> abstrakt: use the drivers from the repos then they are build always against the current kernel
[22:48] <spartan2276> What is the command in CLI for shutting down a server?
[22:48] <abstrakt> spartan2276, depends on the server
[22:48] <undecim> abstrakt: Have you had trouble with your install before?
[22:48] <iceroot> spartan2276: halt
[22:48] <mustr> ""
[22:48] <theadmin> iceroot: That's gross... "poweroff" >.<
[22:48] <abstrakt> undecim, oh i've had zillions of problems with ubuntu before
[22:48] <abstrakt> right now my install seems ok, although it wasn't always ok
[22:48] <dies_irae> spartan2276: killall?
[22:48] <abstrakt> i still have a few issues
[22:48] <spartan2276> iceroot, this will turn off the actual Ubuntu server correct
[22:48] <dies_irae> oh, a server box, NOT server program lawl.
[22:49] <iceroot> spartan2276: it will shutdown the pc you executed the command on
[22:49] <abstrakt> but right now, i was just wondering about this thing, cuz i'm under the impression that there was a way to i.e. ignore linux-* in some config file to prevent kernel updates
[22:49] <iceroot> spartan2276: sudo halt of course instead of halt
[22:49] <theadmin> abstrakt: There sure is
[22:49] <dies_irae> spartan2276: unplug the power cord also works
[22:49] <theadmin> abstrakt: echo "PACKAGENAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[22:49] <spartan2276> LOL....
[22:49] <iceroot> abstrakt: hold the metapackage as i already said
[22:49] <jacek> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16735219
[22:50] <abstrakt> theadmin, thanks
[22:50] <abstrakt> so will that accept globs?
[22:50] <spartan2276> thanks
[22:50] <abstrakt> echo "linux* hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[22:50] <iceroot> abstrakt: why globs?
[22:50] <iceroot> abstrakt: as i told you 2 times, use the metapackage
[22:50] <abstrakt> or will i need to do that for each of the (apparently four?) kernel packages
[22:50] <iceroot> abstrakt: as i told you 3 times, use the metapackage
[22:51] <savage2005> i need a good program that will create a bootable image on a cd and a thumb stick any suggestions?
[22:51] <theadmin> abstrakt: You only need to hold the linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic packages
[22:51] <abstrakt> iceroot, you are so far rude and unhelpful, theadmin was much more useful, thanks for trying though
[22:51] <abstrakt> theadmin, ok thanks
[22:51] <theadmin> abstrakt: err, I've just said the same thing as iceroot >.<
[22:52] <iceroot> abstrakt: "holding the metapackage" is a perfect support
[22:52] <theadmin> abstrakt: Phrased a bit differently, sure, but
[22:52] <iceroot> abstrakt: if you dont know what the metapackage is feel free to ask
[22:52] <iceroot> abstrakt: but ignoring what i said is not good
[22:52] <savage2005> i need a good program that will create a bootable image on a cd and a thumb stick any suggestions?
[22:52] <abstrakt> iceroot, pestering me when i'm obviously not listening to you is not good either
[22:53] <abstrakt> theadmin ftw with "support", say what you will - his was better
[22:53] <abstrakt> if you're a sore loser, i understand
[22:53] <iceroot> abstrakt: holding back kernel updates is not good
[22:53] <OerHeks> savage2005, use the one in ubuntu or unetbootin
[22:53] <theadmin> abstrakt: Don't mess with channel admins (iceroot is one, I beleive). Also, I'm a "she", not "he" :/
[22:54] <iceroot> theadmin: how many pms you get when you say that? :) more then 5?
[22:54] <dies_irae> irc rage lawl
[22:54] <Nach0z> lol
[22:54] <theadmin> iceroot: Actually never got one so far lol
[22:54] <theadmin> iceroot: #ubuntu seems pretty friendly on that
[22:54] <mustr> pms?
[22:54] <mooorad> what is the best IDE to study the kernel?
[22:54] <theadmin> mooorad: Probably vim :P
[22:55]  * dies_irae is tempted to do so at theadmin revelation.
[22:55] <abstrakt> <3 vim
[22:55] <mustr> mooorad: emacs
[22:55] <savage2005> what program does ubuntu come with to create bootable images?
[22:55] <abstrakt> if you use one of vim or emacs you're doin pretty good
[22:55] <theadmin> dies_irae: Go ahead if you want, you won't get much from me anyway xD
[22:55] <oscar76> savage2005: brasero?
[22:56] <dies_irae> theadmin: cool, however not in the mood right now, I am transfering some roms to my psp.
[22:56] <OerHeks> usb-creator
[22:56] <savage2005> awesome thanks oscar
[22:56] <kermit> i upgraded to ocelot and i lost all my GUI preferences
[22:57] <dies_irae> interesting #ubuntu allows tor connectionns?
[22:58] <mustr> dies_irae: freenode allows tor connections :)
[22:58] <abstrakt> dies_irae, yea, you have to be registered with nickserv and you have to use SASL
[22:58] <dies_irae> so mtpfs is planned to be integrated to 12.04??
[22:58] <abstrakt> dies_irae, because that way at least freenode the network knows "who you are" via your nickserv account
[22:58] <savage2005> does ubuntu come with a program to create a bootable image to usb not just cd?
[22:58] <abstrakt> dies_irae, and if you get squirelly and start hacking, they can just disable your account
[22:58] <abstrakt> savage2005, yes, usb-creator
[22:59] <mustr> savage2005: usb-creator-gtk
[22:59] <dies_irae> savage2005: yes dd
[22:59] <savage2005> thanks guys
[22:59] <dies_irae> I did it with dd.
[22:59] <abstrakt> savage2005, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[23:00] <keoikantse> i need help pleas
[23:00] <dies_irae> savage2005: however, you really want a real install with, LiveUSB is limited to single session :/
[23:00] <abstrakt> oh, interesting, usb-creator-gtk does exist, ok
[23:00] <OerHeks> !ask | keoikantse
[23:03] <keoikantse> i am trying to install a program from a DVD i got from linux format and i am new to ubuntu, the files a tar compilation files and i dint know what to do with them...
[23:03] <theadmin> !compile | keoikantse
[23:03] <oscar76> keoikantse: can't you find in the apps center?
[23:04] <keoikantse> thanks
[23:04] <OerHeks> keoikantse, double-click the file, it opens in fileroller, and extract all files to a folder.
[23:06] <keoikantse> oerHeks, can i send us a screen shot
[23:07] <_B00> GOod evening. Do I have to reboot after an X11/Xserver/1Xorg update?
[23:07] <theadmin> _B00: Restarting X would be fine...
[23:07] <mustr> _B00: just log out and log in ...
[23:07] <OerHeks> keoikantse, yes, picpaste.com
[23:08] <_B00> theadmin: How does one achieve this goal pls? mustr: X11 is on server box ;-(
[23:08] <theadmin> _B00: Restart whatever is the display manager you use
[23:08] <_B00> headless. sorry forgot to mention.
[23:08] <_B00> I'll logout of this box on now.
[23:09] <mustr> _B00: if you are not on GUI then logging off and loggin in won't work
[23:09] <_B00> X11-common was updated on server.
[23:09] <_B00> I gathered that mustr
[23:09] <_B00> ty though
[23:09] <mustr> _B00: is the server running X now?
[23:10] <_B00> It has the terminal viewpoint but no monitor. All ssh work.
[23:10] <mustr> _B00 that means you aren't using X at all
[23:11] <mustr> _B00: I would just leave it like that then...
[23:11] <_B00> Well if I plugged a monitor in it would show the base log in screen.
[23:11] <_B00> So X11 doesn't effeect anything except for view?
[23:11] <mustr> _B00: Ah, i get it now. Then may be 'killall Xorg"
[23:12] <dies_irae> what's the new ubuntu 'HUD'???
[23:12] <_B00> brb then. I'll log out of this one and killl x server lol
[23:12] <dies_irae> I am wanting to know
[23:12] <theadmin> dies_irae: Unity
[23:12] <oc\zaie[h]> Hi, i cannot access on some websites on firefox, I google it, and someone said that have to check here, How I fix this ?
[23:12] <oc\zaie[h]> http://lisati.homelinux.com/blacklist
[23:12] <oc\zaie[h]>  is listed in b.barracudacentral.org [http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?pr=1&ip=]
[23:12] <oc\zaie[h]>  is listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net [Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?]
[23:12] <FloodBot1> oc\zaie[h]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <_B00> mustr: Does this look okay? mark@Palace:~$ killall Xorg
[23:13] <_B00> Xorg: no process found
[23:13] <_B00> mustr: Does this look okay? mark@Palace:~$ killall Xorg  >  Xorg: no process found
[23:13] <_B00> *
[23:14] <_B00> NO X
[23:14] <mustr> _B00: it is likely that you are not running X at all OR you don't have the permission to restart
[23:14] <mustr> *permission to kill X
[23:14] <theadmin> _B00: You need to run that with sudo
[23:14] <mustr> you may try with sudo
[23:14] <maZed_> Could I install KDE after i installed ubuntu? or do i need to download kubuntu to try KDE?
[23:14] <keoikantse> OerHeks, image sent
[23:14] <keoikantse> uploaded
[23:14] <dies_irae> why is called HUD then? HUD make me think of mounted display proyected in car's front glass, or GUI overlayed onto glasses, even games FPS HUD.
[23:14] <mustr> maZed: you can
[23:15] <xangua> maZed_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <theadmin> maZed_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop # Will give you everything Kubuntu comes with alongside with your existing Ubuntu
[23:15] <oc\zaie[h]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/818278/ How I can fix this ?, I already reset my modem and nothings change
[23:15] <maZed_> nice, thanks much
[23:15] <_B00> I did do sudo too
[23:16] <_B00> AH I have rebooted the server box with no monitor plugged in before. Would this stop the X server starting?
[23:16] <slugzzz> Hi! What is an easy way to give java more memory?
[23:17] <mustr> _B00: No, it won't. I guess your server was configured earlier not to run X. This is very common for server boxes
[23:17] <_B00> Okay cool. Thank you mustr
[23:17] <zfree> slugzzz, see if that helps: http://viralpatel.net/blogs/2009/01/jvm-java-increase-heap-size-setting-heap-size-jvm-heap.html
[23:17] <keoikantse> oscar, ya its not there
[23:19] <hugomeira> hi
[23:19] <mustr> Hi!
[23:20] <hugomeira> Know you Brazil server or chanel?
[23:21] <xangua> !pt | hugomeira
[23:22] <chris__> which is better photoshop or gimp?
[23:23] <muster> chris__ gimp
[23:23] <keoikantse> i keep getting this :You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///media/LXFDVD152/Games/Xye"
[23:25] <azneita> newbie question: is it ok to install 11.10 packages to 10.04LTS?
[23:25] <acerimmer> !backports|azneita
[23:26] <azneita> ubottu, if you happen by manila, i'll buy you a beer!
[23:27] <azneita> acerimmer, if you happen by manila, i'll buy you a beer!
[23:27] <azneita> thanks
[23:27] <acerimmer> azneita: salamat, I'll take that beer.  I've got a friend in manila and might be there in a few months to visit
[23:27] <_Marcus> azneita: If you happen by Michigan, i'll buy you a coke!
[23:28] <ect0bi0l0gist> what irc clients are you guys using?
[23:28] <_Marcus> ect0bi0l0gist: I am using HydraIRC
[23:29] <acerimmer> ect0bi0l0gist: chatzilla plugin to firefox
[23:29] <ags_> what is the official sip client in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:29] <ect0bi0l0gist> i'm overwhelmed by the sheer number of options for irc clients
[23:29] <theadmin> ags_: There is none
[23:29] <_Marcus> If I was less lazy I would make one myself
[23:30] <ect0bi0l0gist> i'm trying xchat-gnome atm
[23:30] <ect0bi0l0gist> that would be a lot of coding!
[23:30] <dlentz> xchat is cool, but i never found anything close to mirc on linux (other than running mirc in wine)
[23:31] <ect0bi0l0gist> yeah me too
[23:31] <ale__> ist
[23:31] <ale__> list
[23:31] <ect0bi0l0gist> i used to hve a Fixedsys font that made mIRC almost look right
[23:31] <ale__> \list
[23:31] <neatbook> how do i jioin #linux channel?
[23:32] <acerimmer> neatbook: /joing #linux
[23:32] <acerimmer> neatbook: /join #linux
[23:32] <ect0bi0l0gist> i'd just wine mIRC but i'm on a 512mb laptop and don't want to close stuff
[23:35] <azneita> just added backports... still can't see libparse-http-useragent-perl
[23:36] <azneita> can i just get the deb from 11.10 and install it on 10.04?
[23:37] <theadmin> azneita: No. You need to run apt-get update after adding a repo though
[23:38] <nyl> gamecube has ubuntu flavor?
[23:38] <nyl> :o
[23:39] <acerimmer> !dolphin
[23:40]  * azneita RTFM
[23:41] <neatbook> on shell script FILES="$(basename $i)" dosnt work, what is the problem??
[23:45] <pfifo> FILES=`basename $i`
[23:46] <Slart> neatbook: I don't see a problem.. it works when I try it here
[23:46] <Slart> neatbook: perhaps the problem is somewhere else in your script
[23:47] <neatbook> Yea it turns out that i used PATH as one of my variables LOL
[23:47] <Slart> neatbook: ahh.. that might explain it
[23:47] <neatbook> hehehe noob here
[23:47] <pfifo> neatbook, dont use all cap variables
[23:48] <neatbook> is it bad? that is how my teacher did it in his examples, he always uses cap varibales
[23:48] <pfifo> neatbook, well the system already uses all caps for all variables, its a simple easy way to prevent clashes
[23:49] <neatbook> oh
[23:49] <neatbook> i see now...
[23:50] <ninjai> I used mount to mount a SAMBA share and now my user can't write to the directory I mounted.  I used sudo to mount it.
[23:50] <ilija> hy i want ash how good is bleachbit software is
[23:50] <pfifo> of course if you want to use all caps, you could always check to makesure their not in use before hand
[23:51] <Ivoz_> atm I'm i'm running linux 3.0.0-14, but only because 15 wouldn't boot because of nvidia drivers. How do I install them so they're compatible with 15?
[23:51] <overclucker> neatbook: type env
[23:52] <Ivoz_> will simply remove and reinstalling them work?
[23:52] <Ivoz_> or will that build them for 14, because that's what I'm reinstalling them under currently?
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> could boot to the -15 kernel in text mode, or try nomodeset option and reinstall them.
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> but i thought it was supposed to auto-do-this-stuff :) when updateing the kernels
[23:53] <dlentz> Ivoz_, you should be using dkms
[23:54] <theadmin> ilija: It's pretty good, can clean a lot of useless stuff out (although be careful not to clear your browser stuff, because you might want that)
[23:54] <muster> ninjai: try mouting the samba mount from file manager
[23:54] <neatbook> ok thanks!!
[23:55] <ninjai> muster, can't do that.
[23:56] <Ivoz_> Dr_Willis: so did I, until I did a normal software update and it refused to boot on restart...
[23:56] <Ivoz_> dlentz: how do you mean? I'm not familiar
[23:56] <muster> ninjai: then you may try the -o uid option
[23:56] <supercom32> I have a new PC which has a display port and HDMI port only. If I need to install ubuntu, would it work strictly over HDMI? Or would I need special drivers installed first before it would even output any picture via HDMI?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> could be some bug with the newer kernel Ivoz_
[23:57] <ninjai> muster, what does that do?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> supercom32:  hdmi works fine here on the 4+ machines ive tried it on.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> supercom32:  sometimes the sound may be an issue over hdmi
[23:57] <Slart> supercom32: I've used the hdmi port of my nvidia card without problems.. but I suppose it could be different from graphics card to graphics card
[23:57] <cannonfodder> hey does anyone know the option to open an ssh tunnel on a certain port? i cant seem to find it in my man page...i used it before though but cant recall...it was really simple   all i think i had to do was specify the correct option after "ssh" then specify a port. at that point i could go into my web browser and proxy it through localhost:sshtunnelport
[23:57] <muster> ninjai: when you mount through sudo, the mounted dir will take on root privileges, with uid option you can give those permissions to yourself
[23:57] <dlentz> dkms rebuilds kernel modules automatically when a new kernel is installed
[23:57] <supercom32> Dr_Willis: So the low resolution that systems initially start off with show up fine over HDMI?
[23:58] <ninjai> muster, I'm trying to look for a way to mount without sudo for 1 user.
[23:58] <muster> canonfodder: -L:xx:server:yyyy
[23:58] <pp7__> what are the best ubuntu news sites?
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> supercom32:  depends on what you mean. Grub2 has its own res settings.  depending on the chipset  i have had to use the nomodeset option untill i get the drivers intalled
[23:58] <Ivoz_> dlentz: yeah, I think it's done that when I've been reinstalling it
[23:58] <muster> ninjai: its hard without sudo, unless you do it from file browser
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> pp7__:  i tend to read the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites
[23:59] <pp7__> Dr_Willis: me too but any others apart from those?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> ninjai:  you can make a fstab entry for the shares.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> pp7__:  never noticed.
[23:59] <ninjai> muster, I'm running CLI, ubuntu server.  I mainly need a way to mount it so that this user can have write access to the share
[23:59] <pp7__> haha same here
[23:59] <dlentz> Ivoz_, then why doesn't it work with 3.0.0-15, is it a bug?
[23:59] <ninjai> Dr_Willis, I did that.  Still no write access for one of my users
[23:59] <dat789> hello , newbie here
[23:59] <supercom32> Dr_Willis: How do you do that if you can't see anything on your HDMI display? I worry that some bootup sequences, or bios screen will show blank on the HDMI monitor since a low res may not show up right.
[23:59] <dfabb> halloooooo
[23:59] <_Marcus> Halo
[23:59] <_Marcus> Hallo*
[23:59] <supercom32> Dr_Willis: Especially on TV's which don't expect it.