[00:37] <rtorto> Hello. I have a problem. Sound is being output to both my speakers(plugged in to the back of pc) and my headphones(plugged in the front) when I choose analog output connector, and to neither when I choose analog headphones connector. How do I get this to behave properly?
[01:47] <[1]CryptKeeper> hello
[01:48] <[1]CryptKeeper> does anyone here uses Second Life with US 64 bits?
[01:48] <[1]CryptKeeper> use*
[01:50] <[1]CryptKeeper> I installed all the gstream packages and still no luck, I'm using US oneiric ozealot and phoniex viewer/firestorm, no luck with any of these two viewers anyhow
[01:59] <[1]CryptKeeper> oh, there is Imprudence for linux x64
[02:26] <acerimmer> yes ubuntu does art and it really does it well!
[13:39] <cbarth> hi all
[13:43] <cbarth> holstein: fixed my prob with bristol jack and rosegarden
[21:00] <msepsis> I know I've seen this before but don't remember the fix:
[21:00] <msepsis> How do i get the top bar of my windows back in ubuntu 10.04, gnome?
[21:01] <msepsis> After a sequence of installing and uninstalling nvidida drivers (both from .run files and the "additional hardware" applet I somehow lost the top bar of all my windows. . .
[21:01] <acerimmer> msepsis: you mean the menu bar?
[21:04] <ailo> msepsis: You mean the window borders
[21:04] <ailo> Try changing desktop effects to none and back again
[21:04] <ailo> Right click on the desktop to change background, and in one of the tabs you find desktop effects
[21:05] <ailo> msepsis: Have you ever been messing with compiz settings?
[21:05] <ailo> If not, the window borders are managed by metacity
[22:17] <hendrikus> hello everybody _ i installad the last year many linux distro's - NONE of them was able to make movies with sound from the webcam - name it and i installed in all this distoś mint chrunchbang, Pardus Moonos Fedora Ubuntu Xubuntu edubuntu is there any hope that it is working in Ubuntu Studio?
[22:20] <acerimmer> hendrikus: what hardware
[22:20] <hendrikus> acer laptop
[22:20] <hendrikus> acerimmer, acer laptop
[22:21] <acerimmer> hendrikus: run in terminal ls -hw so we can ID your camera
[22:21] <hendrikus> acerimmer, aspire 9420
[22:21] <hendrikus> acerimmer, ok
[22:21] <acerimmer> lshw
[22:22] <hendrikus> acerimmer, that command is not complete it is not working
[22:22] <hendrikus> ls -hw
[22:22] <acerimmer> lshw
[22:23] <hendrikus> acerimmer, it has to be sudo lshw
[22:24] <acerimmer> you've got diff settins than me then, but did you install Cheese?
[22:25] <hendrikus> acerimmer, cheese yes but that is not any distro stable >>> please understand i am not a beginner >>>
[22:26] <acerimmer> hendrikus: what results did cheese give you?
[22:27] <hendrikus> acerimmer, not stable - that means - one moment it make a video - a other moment nothing - please and not in one distro i checkt it in more distro's
[22:28] <hendrikus> acerimmer, what do you wont to know from lshw ?
[22:28] <hendrikus> acerimmer, because this is a long list
[22:30] <acerimmer> hendrikus: different idea.  If you've got VLC put this in terminal:  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0  FWIW, my '09 Dell with internal webcam works 100%  can't understand why your's doesn't.   Hoped to see the vendor id on the camera.
[22:32] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I also tried many things with vlc >>> Sorry but my webcam works in Google chat Skype in cheese it is the programme software cheese ore webcamstudio who are not working and stable
[22:33] <hendrikus> acerimmer,  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 O.k that is working >>> now I like to get sound with the video
[22:35] <hendrikus> acerimmer,  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 >>> I mean how can I record this in a stable way
[22:35] <acerimmer> hendrikus: if you've got ANY video output, the issue is properly configuring the video program you want to use.
[22:36] <acerimmer> hendrikus: test it.  hit the VLC record button and see what you get.
[22:36] <hendrikus> acerimmer,  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 this give me a video output
[22:36] <acerimmer> right.  see the red button?  = record
[22:37] <hendrikus> acerimmer, were in Vlc do you see a record button?
[22:37] <acerimmer> lower left corner under the picture
[22:39] <hendrikus> acerimmer, please I don't see any red button in Vlc
[22:39] <hendrikus> acerimmer, lower left corner ther is only a play or pause button
[22:40] <acerimmer> no record button when running terminal command "vlc v4l2:///dev/video0"?
[22:41] <hendrikus> acerimmer, yes no record button - and I didn see it in any vlc before you mentioned to me - it is not there
[22:43] <acerimmer> hendrikus: can you play dvd or .mp4 videos at all?
[22:43] <hendrikus> acerimmer, do you think i have to buy a Mac  for this kind of thinks?
[22:43] <astraljava> hendrikus: You have to enable Advanced Controls from the View menu.
[22:44] <hendrikus> acerimmer, chure i can play dvd and mp4
[22:44] <hendrikus> astraljava, i wil take a look
[22:45] <hendrikus> astraljava, jip that correct >>> I will try it
[22:45] <acerimmer> me>facepalm
[22:45] <acerimmer> !me facepalm
[22:45]  * acerimmer facepalm
[22:46] <astraljava> acerimmer: Hmm?
[22:47] <hendrikus> astraljava, thats working only no sound?
[22:47] <astraljava> astraljava: I can't help you further, I'm no video guy.
[22:47] <hendrikus> acerimmer, only no sound
[22:47] <acerimmer> hendrikus: so it records now??
[22:47] <hendrikus> acerimmer, jip only no sound
[22:49] <acerimmer> see Sound Preferences.  Check your Hardware profile and Input Device settings.  You're close...
[22:49] <holstein> im not checking the scroll back, but lemme fire out pavucontrol as a helper
[22:50] <hendrikus> acerimmer, yes >>> but what i don't understand that there is not one software product what do this job out of the box
[22:52] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I dont see where in vlc i can configure the input audio only the output audio I find
[22:52] <acerimmer> hendrikus: too much variation to make a universal hardware detect/configure app
[22:52] <hendrikus> acerimmer, ye ye ye that not hte right anwser
[22:53] <acerimmer> hendrikus: UBUNTU System>Preferences>Sound
[22:53] <hendrikus> acerimmer, ok i take a look
[22:53] <holstein> yeah. or pavucontrol
[22:54] <holstein> unless you are using JACK
[22:54] <holstein> i had sound using cheese though ;)
[22:54] <hendrikus> acerimmer, i am in xubuntu >>> that not there
[22:55] <holstein> hendrikus: pavucontrol will be.. you can install it and run it from the terminal or alt+F2 if you prefer
[22:55] <acerimmer> hendrikus: you're on 11.04/11.10?  quick suggestion: go with 10.04 LTS release and fully developed.  The port of UStudio to XFCE is incomplete.
[22:55] <hendrikus> holstein, it is not hte sounds in cheese wich is un stable it is the video wich is not workeble for me
[22:56] <hendrikus> acerimmer, explaine me more aboutyour sugestion
[22:57] <hendrikus> acerimmer, i am on 11.10 xubuntu
[22:58] <astraljava> acerimmer: 11.04 wasn't based on Xubuntu.
[22:58] <hendrikus> acerimmer, do you mean ubuntu studio 10.04 LTS is what i have to install and all the video will work????
[22:59] <hendrikus> acerimmer, out of the box video recording?
[22:59] <acerimmer> hendrikus: idk, but the chances are better than with 11.10 IMHO.  Maybe astral can speak on this...
[22:59] <acerimmer> hendrikus: fwiw, i'm on 10.04 and video with sound has never been an issue
[22:59] <hendrikus> acerimmer, you mean 11.10 is not good
[23:00] <hendrikus> acerimmer, is that the old Ubuntu look because I dont like gnome 3 or 4
[23:00] <acerimmer> hendrikus: it's INCOMPLETE.  didn't say "not good".  applications, parts and pieces are missing or not fully in place.  Nice thing about LTS is it's tested and maintained better than interim releases.
[23:01] <astraljava> hendrikus: acerimmer is right in that 10.04 was an LTS, which means all software components _at that time_ got more careful testing, and were possibly less bug-ridden as the ones that are in 11.10 currently are.
[23:01] <astraljava> hendrikus: Please note that that doesn't necessarily mean that all your problems are solved with that, however.
[23:01] <hendrikus> acerimmer, why are they making a new distro number wich is not complete >>> do i live in the wrong Linux world to understand this?
[23:02] <astraljava> hendrikus: There is the possibility that some features have been introduced to necessary applications/drivers after 10.04 schedule.
[23:02] <astraljava> hendrikus: You can test this with live-cd, of course, without messing your current installation.
[23:03] <acerimmer> hendrikus: interim releases provide the opportunity to test out new features.  IMHO they should NOT be used in production machines, i.e. the one that HAS to work.
[23:03] <astraljava> +1
[23:04] <hendrikus> astraljava, I mean why it is so dificult to make a distro special for multimedia video audio and then there will not work recording from the webcam >>> that must works otherwise you dont can talk about i mutimedia studio >>> that not more than any other distro
[23:04] <acerimmer> hendrikus: again just IMO, once I decided to install LTS only, my ubuntu error rate dropped considederably.
[23:05] <hendrikus> acerimmer, that is a thing i directly believe from you - is that the old looking ubuntu style - not gnome 3
[23:05] <acerimmer> hendrikus: you've got video at least part time.  You've had audio at least part time.  It's not a hardware issue.  It's testing to find the CORRECT configuration for YOUR particular machine.
[23:06] <astraljava> hendrikus: Very few webcams can provide the professional-like quality that is sought after with the tools and components of the distribution. If you would like that changed, I propose voicing that matter on ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list, or joining #ubuntustudio-devel channel, and talking to the devs about it.
[23:06] <acerimmer> hendrikus: won't solve your audio/video issue, but you might wish to do like me: I installed LTS 10.04 and won't upgrade before 12.04 and MAY not do so then.  But I do run 11.04/11.10 in virtual box just so I can see how things are changing.
[23:07] <astraljava> hendrikus: Please do notice, though, that we're very far into the development cycle for 12.04, and so are unlikely to get new features in anymore. But the release after that is a very fine candidate for new experimental things, again.
[23:07] <acerimmer> hendrikus: co-sign astraljava's suggestion.  Also, might wish to check with the ubuntu forums.
[23:07] <hendrikus> acerimmer, O.k i will install 10.04 LTS >>> Do you know I work with the Korg mr 1000 DSD recorder >>> this machine is amasing >>> did you ever heard a 1 bit recording with a sample rate of more then 5 miljoen /sec?
[23:08] <astraljava> hendrikus: The thing in this case, though, is not very likely to enhance. It's not like the regular distributions are resorting to using lesser drivers, for instance. Everybody are using the same.
[23:09] <astraljava> hendrikus: In essence, the best out there.
[23:09] <acerimmer> hendrikus: don't know Korg stuff.  sorry
[23:09] <astraljava> hendrikus: Please, do test with a live-cd before you install. I would not want to hear about regression in many things, and at worst no progress in the one problem area.
[23:09] <hendrikus> astraljava, And because verybody using the same itis easyer to make it working >>> but that not so
[23:10] <astraljava> hendrikus: With the limited resources of the FOSS circles, it is hard to make it work for everybody, unless everybody who have varying hardware provide support as well. Support can be bug reports, test reports etc.
[23:11] <hendrikus> astraljava, don 't worrie I don't come back to tell you that you make me a bad advice >>> Because that no true you helping me the best you can!
[23:11] <astraljava> hendrikus: I'm not worried about us, I'm worried about users. :)
[23:12] <hendrikus> astraljava, the better !
[23:12] <astraljava> We can handle criticism, but we don't want users to have reason to do so. :)
[23:12] <acerimmer> astraljava: ...OEM manufacturers support
[23:12] <hendrikus> O.k I start downloading the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[23:12] <holstein> hendrikus: im not suggestiing you use cheese... i suggesting you use pavucontrol
[23:12] <holstein> im just saying... all i did was install cheese, and i had video and sound
[23:13] <holstein> i ended up using something else
[23:13] <acerimmer> hendrikus: lemme know how it goes.  I'm on here lots of days.  Been with Ubuntu Studio for years and not dropping it any time soon.
[23:13] <astraljava> acerimmer: Good to hear! Thanks! :)
[23:14] <acerimmer> astraljava: Hey I LOVE UStudio...although I still would have preferred LXDE over XFCE.  Might have to try a custom build.
[23:16] <astraljava> acerimmer: Well, the concensus was that Xfce could provide a closer-to-previous work flow than any other DE, when GNOME 2 went away. That together with the excellent devs and contributors over at Xubuntu tipped the scale.
[23:16] <astraljava> And I must admit, I'm not sorry.
[23:17] <astraljava> I'm using Xubuntu on my main workhorse now.
[23:17] <acerimmer> astraljava: what % of porting from gnome to xfce can we expect in 12.04?
[23:18] <astraljava> acerimmer: Well, there are no huge changes, but we're deviating from the standard Xubuntu somewhat, and also the appearance will be more old skool Studio-like.
[23:19] <acerimmer> astraljava: nice!  I've made a point of saving the artwork from previous released, but my collection is incomplete.
[23:19] <astraljava> acerimmer: But there's one MAJOR difference from the previous releases. We're switching over to live DVD now.
[23:19] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I have to thank yo all for to helping me on my way >>> I will go >>> have i nice time together
[23:19] <astraljava> hendrikus: Good luck, and come back to report!
[23:19] <acerimmer> hendrikus: good luck hope to see your work soon!
[23:20] <acerimmer> astraljava: upgrading from vanilla to ustudio will still be an option?  or xubuntu to ustudio??
[23:21] <astraljava> acerimmer: The basics are still the same. Everything can be pulled in by meta-packages, just like previously.
[23:21] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I am a musician 432Hz Improvisation Singing htp://hendrikusgodvliet.appspot.com/sing.html
[23:23] <acerimmer> hendrikus: Mostly I podcast but I do make the occasional video: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/Kokujin%20Chronicles%20Episode%20007.mp4
[23:33] <hendrikus> acerimmer, did you make the video in Blender?
[23:35] <acerimmer> hendrikus: no blender.  ihackintosh to use the Star Wars Text Generator > ffmpeg to render stills to video and overlay logos, openshot to mix audio/video
[23:36] <acerimmer> hendrikus: I learned a LOT of linux/UStudio for this one.  :)
[23:47] <hendrikus> acerimmer,  <<< openshot to mix audio/video>>> This can also be than with ffmpeg >>> ffmpeg -i movie.avi -i 026.WAV -ab 320k -sameq video+sound.avi
[23:48] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I burning the disk - so within 5 min I will leave this place --
[23:49] <acerimmer> hendrikus: yes, but then I would have missed out on the 3 days of headbanging b4 I could get OS's developer to tell me how to render still's to video.
[23:50] <hendrikus> acerimmer, O.k I understand you point >>> I go