[02:24] AlanBell you alive? [02:24] re ubiquity bug [02:39] Fudge: it's 2:30AM where he is [02:42] oh oops [02:42] thanks Pendulum [02:42] not sure if this is a bug what do you think [02:42] on ubiquity where to install screen [02:42] the middle option says install ubuntu replace window with ubuntu but i dont have windows, is that just generic or a bug [02:43] since above the installer already recognizes that i only have ubuntu installed [02:45] it definitely sounds like it might be, but I don't have an install disk around to test [02:45] cool [02:46] hopeuflly someone will see the history anyway [02:46] is gtk3-0 supposed to be held now? [02:46] and libgail-30 gtk-3-common etc [02:46] maco: is this one of the things that was going to be fixed in labeling? [02:46] i could not flat review to see exactly what the erro was, i.e two items seperated by a / [02:48] Fudge: I assume, btw, that you're saying what Orca is reading out, right? [02:49] yes Pendulum that's correct, when i asked a friend yesterday though he did not see windows written there [02:49] does it help that when setting up your user there is an inconsistency there too, what is your name orca says but the edit box on screen says something different [03:07] I think what it's doing is telling you too much information [03:07] as in, the "replace window with ubuntu" is what the option should be doing since your machine already has Ubuntu on it [03:09] so that all you should hear is "install ubuntu" [03:09] but I'm not positive. I'll look at it in the morning :) [03:13] yeah i agree thanks Pendulum [10:20] TheMuso: If CCSM is removed from Ubuntu, how much extra work is it going to be to make it possible to access eZoom from another control? === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine [15:33] Pendulum: yeah thats a known thing [15:38] well it would be nice for eZoom to be activated by the zoom setting in the universal access preferences [15:38] right now I don't think that does anything unless you have gnome shell magnifier somehow [15:38] AlanBell: yeah. I'm mostly wondering how much work that would be [15:39] since they're talking about removing CCSM for Precise and we need Precise to also be accessible [15:39] probably not much to just turn it on and off, but there is more to tinker with than on and off [15:39] yeah I know :( [15:39] jcastro is on a crusade [15:40] yeah [15:41] which mostly doesn't bother me, just I don't want to break something that only just got fulling working! [15:41] especially when it's something that was missing last cycle [15:41] (and my guess is that magnification is one of the most commonly used tools, possibly even more than Orca) [15:42] yeah, I would think so [15:42] *a11y tools [15:42] it is pretty handy when doing a presentation on a projector too [15:43] I can think of many use cases [15:44] there are loads of other cool things in compiz, it is really powerful [15:47] Fudge: in case you didn't see, it's a known issue and we're working on a fix :) [15:48] or, rather I've asked maco to teach me how to fix it so I can go recheck and fix button labels again :) [15:50] bug 922657 [15:50] Launchpad bug 922657 in software-center "The Big A11y/orca/keyboard only list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922657 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [22:15] Ooo nice to see a bug for software center. I just spent more time this last week doing ubiquity label associations. [22:40] yeah, davmor2 spent most of the day playing with orca I think [22:41] [12:30] * davmor2 is spending a day in orca/keyboard land to see what you can and can't do in USC [22:41] [12:43] AlanBell: it's a real eye opener on how bad an experience you are likely to get to be honest :( [22:55] he and I talked about it at UDS [22:55] he'd like things fixed because it'll make automated testing easier, but he definitely is on board with the a11y concerns as well [23:09] thank you Pendulum