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S0NiCre00:05
S0NiCcan anyone help me with this errormessage? http://nopaste.info/3cda43b7e5.html01:32
twbPlease reproduce it with LC_ALL=C01:35
twbThe funamental problem looks like this: 299. trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstfaac.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse 0.10.21-101:36
twbIt's upset because two packages provide the same file and neither claims to replace the other01:36
twbI would try first removing the package under its old name01:37
S0NiCtwb: iam not so familiar to ubuntu and arm01:39
S0NiCwhich package should i remove?01:39
S0NiC  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse 0.10.21-101:39
S0NiCthis one?01:40
twbYes I think so01:40
twbThis is not an arm-specific issue01:40
twbIt looks like you're trying to upgrade between releases and you're running into the same bug as everyone else01:40
S0NiCtwb: ok, the problem is i run now alyways into the same error, it says gstreamer0.10-faac wants to update, but is not selected for install... try apt-get -f install01:41
S0NiCbut this doesnt work01:42
twbAre you trying to upgrade to precise?01:42
S0NiCtwb: no, i only want to update my 11.10. i installt today 11.1001:42
S0NiCtwb: and i dont know how to get out of this loop01:43
twbHuh.  Well, you probably need more hand-holding and I'm ill equipped and disinclined to help.01:43
twbI don't even have a desktop01:43
twbI recommend you try asking #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 for help with this01:44
S0NiCno problem... ;)01:44
S0NiCok thx01:44
ppisatirbasak: did you try the new kernel?09:55
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rbasakppisati: I've just been using whatever the archive gives me, but I haven't done a reinstall in a little while10:10
ppisatirbasak: it should be the 140510:11
rbasakppisati: trying now10:14
rbasakppisati: yes, it's installing 1405.710:22
rbasakppisati: 1405 booted with no special parameters needed - thanks! The installer still needs them though.10:36
ppisatirbasak: why the installer needs them?10:38
rbasakppisati: for netinst. I assume the installer isn't using the latest kernel.10:38
ppisatirbasak: ah, i don't know. You better probe orga/Grue/ndec aabout it10:39
ppisatiogra_: so you have a beagle xm active by now, right?11:26
ogra_as my printserver, yes11:26
ogra_running lucid11:26
ppisatiogra_: which kernel are you running? and do you change the mac addres? (/etc/network/interfaces)11:26
ogra_no, its a stock install, i didnt touch the network settings beyond what the installer does11:27
ppisatiok11:27
ogra_oh, wait, thats a C4, i lied11:28
ogra_my XM actually sits in a bag in my office11:28
ogra_sorry11:28
ppisatiok11:30
ppisatibecause *i think* i met a regression11:30
ogra_my XM is a rev A though11:30
ogra_very first model11:31
ppisatik11:31
ogra_ndec, there was an Xorg ABI bump (bumped to 11) would it be possible to get a driver rebuild in the PPA since the current driver wont work with the 11 ABI11:48
jamespagehello - any change someone with ARM/Assembler experience could review https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/precise/zookeeper/arm-ftbfs-fixes/+merge/89940 for me11:55
jamespage?11:56
ndecogra_: you mean for O or P?13:22
dokojamespage, you don't need ARM experience to *remove* ARM code ;-P13:22
dokolooks ine13:22
dokofine13:22
ogra_ndec, for P indeed, we didnt update xorg to a new ABI in O ;)13:22
ndecok13:22
ndecwe will rebuild, but likely will only support armhf, is that okay?13:23
jamespagedoko: good - I know it works on armel/armhf and for x86 - but wanted someone who might actually understand why!13:23
jamespageta13:23
ogra_ndec, but i think rsalveti is already mailing xavier about it13:23
ogra_ndec, fine with me13:23
dokoogra_, janimo: please could you install 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/glibc/ubuntu precise main' and run this for a while on your arm machine(s)?14:30
ogra_doko, what packages are that ? just libc ?14:33
ogra_doko, installed, anything i should look for after i reboot ?14:44
* ogra_ reboots and will blame doko if the system doesnt come up again14:58
ogra_doko, booted fine, so what am i looking for now ?15:04
xranbydoko: during installation i see a warning locale: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by locale)15:08
xranbyah.. it have not been installed yet15:08
ogra_likely because the new libc isnt running while it generates the locales15:08
xranbythats correct dpkg are Setting up libc6 (2.1.5... now15:09
ogra_yep15:09
xranby2.1515:09
ogra_bah, it doesnt fix my graphics issues !15:10
xranbyheh15:10
ogra_:)15:10
xranbyyou should have benchmarked before the upgrade15:10
xranbythings might be faster15:10
ogra_pfft15:10
ogra_whats the actual change ?15:10
ogra_if i would be after speed i wouldnt use ac100 as my main work machine :)15:11
* ogra_ only sees a reversion in the changelog that could be relevant 15:12
rbasakis anyone else's panda netinst falling over today? with the same preseed I was using yesterday, I'm getting "!! ERROR: No root file system" and then "No root file system is defined." at the partition stage. I've tried the externally powered disk I was using weeks ago, and hopefully reverted everything else I've changed.15:22
rbasakjamespage, GrueMaster: ^^?15:22
xranbyogra_: basically looks like we are testing the 2.15 release http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2011-12/msg00085.html15:26
xranbydoh.. i though that statement want out yesterday15:26
xranbyits a 1 old month news entry15:27
dokoogra: please just run it for a while15:28
dokoa week or so15:28
dokoxranby, yeah, I need to fix this, dependency issue, but the locales get regenerated later anyway15:28
dokowell, there are some neon optimized string operations like {str.mem}{cpy,mov,cmp}15:29
ogra_doko, well, i'm running on my ac100, NEON wont actually gain me much i think, is it still worth the test for you ?15:36
jamespagerbasak, not tried since I had to manually hack mine yesterday15:38
jamespagehave been watching hadoop crash :-)15:38
dokoogra_, yes, just to know any issues with 2.15 vs. 2.1315:43
ogra_k, no prob then, i'll keep it running ans scream and shout if it breaks :)15:47
GrueMasterrbasak: I'll try it here and see if it fails.16:02
rbasakthanks16:02
GrueMasterrbasak: I think it isyour settings.  I'm well past the partitioning, and into the base installer section now.16:15
GrueMasterAlthough it looks like a kernel meta was updated before a new kernel was released into the pool.16:16
ogra_the kernel was released around tuesday or so16:19
ogra_not sure d-i has been uploaded to use the new kernel yet16:19
GrueMasterturns out it was a different (but odd) issue.  netinstall was failing to resolve my mirror sewrver when installing the linux-headers packages.  very odd.16:29
ogra_aww16:35
rbasakGrueMaster: ok, thanks for testing16:39
GrueMasterrbasak: I am still experiencing issues.  Not what you are seeing, but very odd behavior.16:40
rbasakGrueMaster: I have been getting various panics, though that may be a power problem16:42
GrueMasterI'm seeing that too.  Trying to capture a log now.16:42
jeremiahIs David Duffey here?16:45
GrueMasterWhat I'm seeing is it fails at the kernel installation.  Log shows issue resolving my mirror.  Kicking it moves forward, but fails again with a failure to create /etc/resolv.conf.  Then segfault.16:46
infinityGrueMaster: You may want to bring it up with stgraber.  He's been mucking with fixes from resolvconf fallout.16:49
GrueMasterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/819007/ is the segfault.16:51
stgraberGrueMaster: Colin just fixed a similar issue in ubiquity16:51
GrueMasterinteresting.  Odd that this only just started happening yesterday.16:52
infinityYesterday was when the overrides got fixed to get resolvconf in important (and, by extension, in ubuntu-minimal)16:53
infinitySo, that timing seems right.16:53
infinityBefore said change your netinsts wouldn't have been installing resolvconf, I imagine.16:54
rbasakI just tried armel oneiric with exactly the same config, preseed, kernel opts etc, and it has gone past the problem partitioning stage with no issues.16:55
rbasakI think perhaps the panics I've been seeing over the last few days aren't a power issue as I thought, but a kernel issue16:55
rbasakThere are a few different points where I seem to get different types of panic (from observation, I've not been logging)16:56
rbasakSo something causing what appears to be pretty non-deterministic behaviour/failures16:56
GrueMasterMine falls over exactly the same way on 2 different systems.  Both well past the partitioning though.16:56
rbasakI quite often get a panic straight after the kernel loads, at around the point syslogd (?) starts16:57
infinityjanimo: Regarding bug 922558, are you actually suggesting LP collect current package info for every buildd and publish that, or did you mean to file that as an RT?16:57
ubot2`Launchpad bug 922558 in launchpad-buildd "Page listing Ubuntu and kernel versions on ARM builders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92255816:57
stgraberGrueMaster: I'm running an amd64 netinstall now to confirm it's broken, then will look at a fix (after schroot, lxc, LTSP and ubiquity are fixed)16:57
infinityjanimo: (Note that indivudual build logs contain exactly the info you're looking for...)16:57
GrueMasterok16:57
rbasakI don't know why it didn't occur to me to try an oneiric armel install to test my setup before. Now I can take my power hacking out of the equation16:59
GrueMasterstgraber: We wouldn't want you to get bored.  :P16:59
stgraberGrueMaster: at least we only got install/build time problems, nobody reported breakage for existing systems :)17:00
GrueMasterOooh, I haven't tried breaking my running installs.  Thanks for the suggestion.  :P17:01
stgraber:)17:03
rbasakI think I was stressing this kernel on a running install fairly hard the other day, and it didn't break17:04
rbasaknot the latest kernel though17:04
rbasakor maybe it was17:04
rbasakthat's not really any use is it?17:04
* rbasak shuts up17:04
rbasakJust found a USB power injection lead: http://linitx.com/product/12849 - similar to what I made up, but I don't know if it keeps the host connected on 5V or not.17:16
rbasak"Cannot allocate irq_descs @ IRQ16, assuming pre-allocated"17:33
rbasakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/819067/17:33
rbasakIs this important?17:33
GrueMasterNice.  I'll bet they have feedback diodes to prevent power pull to host.17:33
rbasakI've ordered one, will receive Tuesday17:33
GrueMasterThat failure looks like what I am seeing.17:34
rbasakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/819072/ is the most common failure I'm getting right now - no changes, just another run. No panic.17:37
rbasakA different type of panic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819082/17:42
rbasakOnly changed was that I add DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text17:43
* rbasak brushes up on the english language17:43
rbasakOnly change was that I added DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text17:43
rbasakThis time I seem to have a random hang after "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd."17:51
rbasakAnother panic, looks like the same as one of the previous ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819098/17:53
* rbasak gives up for now17:53
rbasakEOD. Enjoy your weekend when it starts!18:01
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