[02:51] <Budget> I just installed 11.10 and I was wondering if anyone knows how to make it look more like the older version?
[02:51] <holstein> Budget: you mean, gnome2?
[02:52] <holstein> i say XFCE is the most gnome2 like.. you can try xubuntu... i would look at it live and see if you agree... if you agree, or just want to go for it, you can install XFCE, or xubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <Budget> Yes
[02:52] <Budget> holstein: Yes
[02:54] <Budget> holstein: That looks about right, thanks
[05:28] <hydrox24> How can I start an application in minimized mode?
[06:29] <Nikku> Hi, does anyone know how to use pLop to install Ubuntu from a USB on a computer that can boot from BIOS or DVD/CD?
[06:30] <Nikku> I've followed all available instructions. I've reached a purple splash page that says Ubuntu
[06:32] <Nikku> How long does it normally take to install Ubuntu from a USB?
[06:35] <Unit193> All depends on your computer speed
[09:52] <nlsthzn> Before I wipe my wifes Win 7 install and do a re-install anyone know of a way to reset the password (she changed it and can't remember it now)?
[09:54] <Snicksie> yep
[09:54] <Snicksie> I know
[09:54] <Snicksie> you have an ubuntu live cd?
[09:54] <Snicksie> chntpw is the package you need to install :)
[09:55] <Snicksie> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/chntpw
[09:55] <nlsthzn> Snicksie, I do have a live CD... can Ubuntu change a Windows 7 password though?
[09:55] <Snicksie> at least that's the package i mean
[09:55] <Snicksie> yep
[09:55] <Snicksie> well, I just erased it, the change didnt work for me
[09:56] <Snicksie> erasing worked though
[09:57] <nlsthzn> Snicksie, awesome... having a look at it now :D
[09:57] <Snicksie> good luck, it worked for me :)
[10:07] <nlsthzn> Booting up in Oneiric now... looks like it will do the trick ...
[10:16] <Snicksie> good luck nlsthzn ;)
[10:17] <Ianp5a> nlsthzn: yes good luck. keep us posted.
[10:20] <nlsthzn> Curious... laptop has failed to boot both my Ubuntu and Kubuntu discs starting Windows after a minute or two every time... time to go play in the BIOS as the boot manager doesn't seem to be working :/
[10:22] <Ianp5a> Try a USB sticl boot if that doesn't work
[10:28] <nlsthzn> Tried my external USB DVD and it doesn't pick it up... this sucks :/ I have installed many distro's on this machine before... I guess it is time to find that USB as you mentioned Ianp5a
[10:31]  * nlsthzn starts downloading the ISO again :;p
[11:05] <nlsthzn> Was able to boot from USB... so far so good :)
[11:22] <nlsthzn> ? well the first clearing of the password didn't work... lets try again..
[11:33] <Snicksie> nlsthzn, did you save the things you did?
[11:33] <Snicksie> i read it doesnt by default
[11:34] <nlsthzn> it asks to write the "hive" and I wrote "y" and entered... checking again :)
[11:36] <Snicksie> okay... I know it didnt work always too... but after few try's it worked
[11:41] <nlsthzn> Even tried changing the password... no luck.
[11:41] <nlsthzn> Snicksie, thanks for the assistance... I will just backup the files and do a fresh install, sometimes Windows needs that too :)
[11:46] <Snicksie> okay, good luck ;)
[15:27] <duanedesign> channel has been a little slow
[15:31] <nlsthzn> /channel speed ++
[15:31] <nlsthzn> that better?
[15:31] <nlsthzn> :p
[15:36] <duanedesign> :D
[15:37] <duanedesign> nlsthzn: we have had a lot of new mwmbwers who like to give supprt in here. Thought we migh promote the channel a bit
[15:38] <nlsthzn> redirect #ubuntu here for half an hour... sure everyone would get there fill :)
[18:41] <davidl_> Hi there...  looking for a little hep with rsyslog. (mine config doesn't seem to be working... log files are not updating).  I have a vanilla 11.10 Server AMD64 install.  I've done an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get install octopussy (which is a web based log analyzer).  Not getting any log data and it looks like rsyslog isn't working.  Suggestions?  TIA.
[18:46] <davidl_> (asking the same questions on #ubuntu-server
[18:46] <davidl_> )
[19:11] <holstein> davidl_: other than just assuming octopussy isnt configured correctly, i dont really have any suggestions
[19:26] <davidl_> holstein: I just wiped the box... trying 10.04 Server.   Going to see if I get the same result.  Definitely seems like rsyslog is what is broken.
[19:27] <holstein> i use 10.04 server... 64bit
[19:27] <davidl_> what do you use for syslog?
[19:28] <davidl_> I suppose I could try and make syslog-ng work with octopussy
[19:29] <davidl_> this is all really a stab in the dark.  I'm trying to build a box for log analysis (w/out spending a fortune)
[19:29] <holstein> davidl_: i just look when i need info.. where ever i need to look
[19:29] <holstein> i can fire it up and through something at it it you like
[19:31] <davidl_> interesting.... I have a wireless controller that can forward logs to a syslog daemon.  It can only hold a small amount of logging data on its own.  And I need to be able track more historical data
[19:33] <holstein> they sell something http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/landscape
[19:33] <holstein> the meaning cannonical... or at least they used to
[19:33] <holstein> i like to check these guys out as well http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[19:34] <davidl_> neat... I'll take a look
[19:35] <davidl_> p.s.... thanks for the advice.  =)
[19:53] <davidl_> holstein: just installed 10.04 Server... and just found that octopussy is not an available package. Surprised by that... because it is available for 11.10
[19:55] <philipballew> davidl_, must have been added
[19:57] <holstein> i thought you had added it to 11.10
[20:02] <davidl_> ?
[20:03] <davidl_> It was an available package for 11.10.  But I couldn't get it to work.
[20:04] <davidl_> holstein:  just noticed you posted (I assume its you) 1.11.2012 on sourceforge that you have v1.0-4  running
[20:04] <holstein> davidl_: what im saying is.... i didnt realize it was in the repos at all... it got added looks like
[20:04] <holstein> davidl_: nah... i have not used octopussy
[20:05] <holstein> i have not used server 11.10
[20:07] <davidl_> holstein: http://sourceforge.net/projects/syslog-analyzer/forums/forum/629149/topic/4939478?message=11040239
[20:07] <davidl_> ohhh... I see its hollstein
[20:07] <davidl_> funny
[20:11] <davidl_> I looked briefly at the landscape product.  It looks like its used primarily to manage ubuntu systems.    Its also a syslog analyzer?
[20:13] <holstein> davidl_: im not sure... is a server log... a proprietary thing
[20:13] <holstein> i would start with... what do you want? and why? and how would you like it?
[20:14] <holstein> would you like the system to email you?
[20:14] <holstein> would you like to just see a log of activity?
[20:15] <davidl_> I would like to see a log of activity from multiple devices, with filters for several different types of events.  Thresholds that trigger email or pager notification
[20:15] <davidl_> I know that our wireless controller, core switch and core router can forward all their logs to a syslog server
[20:16] <davidl_> so I want to setup a syslog server that in turn has some analysis tools that make it easy to monitor the log files
[20:17] <davidl_> I did find this list: http://www.syslog.org/wiki/Main/LogAnalyzers
[20:18] <davidl_> but there are only a couple that are free
[20:19] <davidl_> Octopussy will generate email and/or jabber notifications.
[20:21] <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/general/20110616/syslog-server-appliance-request-features-rff
[20:21] <holstein> i tend to try several options and go with the path of least resistance
[20:23] <davidl_> yeah... that's what I want to do...
[20:23] <holstein> i have only heard of splunk
[20:26] <davidl_> yeah... Someone told me about that too... but I don't think they have a free version
[20:26] <davidl_> turnkeylink had a link to this: http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2011/06/a-comparison-of-syslog-ng-web-guis/
[20:26] <holstein> what you are trying to do might be worth paying for
[20:26] <holstein> im sure its not trivial
[20:26] <davidl_> yeah...
[20:26] <davidl_> true
[20:26] <holstein> not that you cant do it... its just probably a lot of config, and points of failure to troubleshoot
[20:27] <holstein> unless you just find an appliance for it