| tumbleweed | jtaylor: a bugfix release sounds worth taking | 06:09 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:03 |
| benonsoftware | Hello dholbach | 08:04 |
| dholbach | hey benonsoftware | 08:05 |
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| takamarou | Hi all - I'm looking to get started doing some dev/bug fixes for Ubuntu, and am getting a bit confused as I browse through triaged bugs.. I see quite a few bugs that are labeled triaged, but when you click into them you see a "Fix Commited" and a "Triaged" entry. Does this mean that the fix is committed by the original package devs, or does that mean it is still open to fixing? Example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s | 16:17 |
| takamarou | P.S. Sorry for the dumb question :/ | 16:17 |
| dholbach | takamarou, there's no dumb questions :) | 16:19 |
| dholbach | takamarou, can you paste the full link to the bug? it seems it was cut off | 16:19 |
| takamarou | dholbach, hmm, not cut off on my screen.. let me try it on its own line | 16:19 |
| takamarou | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/807861 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 807861 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "typo in ../src/widgets/toolbox.cpp:4685" [Low,Triaged] | 16:19 |
| dholbach | ah, that was a good question! :) | 16:20 |
| dholbach | can you see the two lines in the middle of the page, one "fix committed" and the other one "triaged"? | 16:20 |
| takamarou | Yep | 16:20 |
| dholbach | they are what we call 2 bug tasks | 16:20 |
| dholbach | we identified that the problem is in "inkscape (Ubuntu)" and "inkscape" | 16:21 |
| dholbach | which means as much as: we need to fix it in inkscape, the Ubuntu package | 16:21 |
| dholbach | and also in inkscape the upstream project | 16:21 |
| takamarou | Which is "inkscape" as in the original straight from inkscape, and "inkscape (Ubuntu)" as in the Ubuntu repo version... right? | 16:21 |
| takamarou | oh | 16:21 |
| takamarou | OK | 16:21 |
| dholbach | so it seems like the fix is committed (but not in a release , which would be 'fix committed') upstream | 16:21 |
| dholbach | and in Ubuntu the bug is triaged, which means that the problem is understood and has all necessary information | 16:22 |
| dholbach | one possible solution would be to grab the fix from upstream and fix the ubuntu package this way | 16:22 |
| dholbach | or wait until a new release is rolled upstream and we upgrade to the new upstream version | 16:22 |
| takamarou | Gotcha. And what is the usual procedure with that kind of thing? Wait for the new release, or do it yourself? | 16:23 |
| dholbach | as it's a typo, I would assume it's safe to wait for the next upstream release | 16:23 |
| takamarou | OK | 16:23 |
| dholbach | if it's something urgent like a common crasher, it might be better to just grab the fix, apply it and not block on upstream finding the time to roll a new release | 16:23 |
| takamarou | So little things like typos are probably going to be a bad choice for getting my feet wet in bug fixing, as they will be fixed upstream | 16:24 |
| dholbach | no, if you want to start out by fixing a typo, do it - but in a lot of cases it makes sense to submit the fix to the upstream authors | 16:24 |
| takamarou | OK | 16:24 |
| dholbach | unless it's something really visible and irritating :) | 16:24 |
| takamarou | Gotcha | 16:25 |
| dholbach | it's impossible to know all of this from the very beginning | 16:25 |
| dholbach | so keep the questions coming | 16:25 |
| dholbach | also if you haven't heard already, next week is Ubuntu Developer Week, which might interest you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek | 16:26 |
| takamarou | I will - still in the process of upgrading to 11.10, so I don't know all the questions yet. But I will soon! | 16:26 |
| dholbach | :-) | 16:27 |
| takamarou | Sweet. All the classes are during my work hours, but perhaps I'll keep IRC open in the background | 16:27 |
| takamarou | Thanks! | 16:27 |
| takamarou | OK - got another question. Looking at another bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/723864) in Unity. It's got 4 bug tasks, Unity (ubuntu), Unity, Unity Foundations, and Ayana Design. I understand the first three, but what the heck is Ayana Design (and also, why is there more than one upstream?). I've seen this Ayana in a couple places now. | 16:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 723864 in unity (Ubuntu) "The alignment of the “[number of minutes] minutes” selector in the “Unlock Keyring” window is wrong." [Wishlist,Triaged] | 16:33 |
| dholbach | takamarou, also we'll put up logs later on | 16:38 |
| dholbach | takamarou, I'm not 100% sure, but I could imagine that in this case it's a way to get multiple teams aware of the bug | 16:38 |
| dholbach | not 100% sure though | 16:38 |
| dholbach | sometimes you can have lots more than 2 tasks | 16:39 |
| dholbach | ie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audiofile/+bug/922036 | 16:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 922036 in glame (Ubuntu) "Audiofile 0.3.x transition" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:39 |
| dholbach | in this case it's a matter of fixing the same problem in many different packages | 16:39 |
| takamarou | OK | 16:41 |
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| TiMiDo | Hi people | 21:34 |
| TiMiDo | if i want to help around the MoTU i need to create my self, a PPA, so i can upload new bugs fixes and much more? | 21:35 |
| micahg | TiMiDo: you can use a local sbuild or pbuilder instance to test | 21:38 |
| TiMiDo | oh OK i was reading. online on the wikis | 21:38 |
| TiMiDo | so i can package, | 21:39 |
| TiMiDo | question do i need my GPG so be sign before uploading. the new changes? | 21:39 |
| micahg | TiMiDo: upload rights are a different story, they come later (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers) | 21:40 |
| TiMiDo | let's see | 21:41 |
| micahg | TiMiDo: until then, you can get sponsored: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 21:42 |
| TiMiDo | nice. | 21:42 |
| TiMiDo | I'll get a sponsor later on but anyways i can still upload to lp | 21:42 |
| TiMiDo | so I'll do that with bzr | 21:43 |
| micahg | TiMiDo: once you propose a merge into the lp:ubuntu/* branch, it lands in teh sponsorship queue, no sponsor hunting necessary | 21:44 |
| TiMiDo | oh nice | 21:44 |
| TiMiDo | i was fixing some bug | 21:44 |
| TiMiDo | on php5 | 21:44 |
| TiMiDo | do you guys have any packages that need help to be packaging or to check the rules? | 21:45 |
| TiMiDo | i meant if ubuntu has orphaned packages | 21:47 |
| blair | ub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/920284 a commenter wrote "Could you progress the ones that require merges, and check how precise | 22:17 |
| blair | looks after all of this has built and published?" what am i supposed to do? | 22:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 920284 in Ubuntu "Sync maven 3.0.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Triaged] | 22:17 |
| blair | s/ub/in/ | 22:17 |
| micahg | blair: check and see what's left to be done to sync maven (i.e. what other build/runtime dependencies need to be sync'd/merged) | 22:20 |
| blair | micahg, i think the person who has done the syncs has listed it pretty well already | 22:21 |
| blair | there's nothing for me to do on the ones that require merges from debian, is there? | 22:21 |
| micahg | blair: propose the merge? | 22:22 |
| blair | unless i need to open tickets requesting a merge/sync? | 22:22 |
| micahg | blair: you should ask the person who touched it last first though | 22:22 |
| blair | there's only really one package that debian has a newer upstream than ubuntu and it was synced, the rest are debian package updates, which i don't think are really needed | 22:25 |
| blair | for maven working, that is | 22:25 |
| blair | what does MIR mean here: "synced, but will require MIR of libcommons-parent-java" | 22:26 |
| micahg | Main Inclusion Request | 22:27 |
| blair | that means, move it from universe to main? | 22:27 |
| micahg | yes | 22:27 |
| blair | why does he say that, i dont' see a direct dependency from libcommons-logging-java onto libcommons-parent-java? | 22:29 |
| blair | is there a tool to propose merges, like requestsync? | 22:32 |
| blair | apport? | 22:32 |
| micahg | sorry, I have to go, will be back UTC early sunday | 22:33 |
| blair | micahg, ok, have a good one | 22:33 |
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