[00:06] Is there something I can use to log all the packets to and from a specific address? [00:07] wireshark [00:08] though that is more for investigating stuff real time than a long term logging thing [00:10] hehe [00:28] AlanBell: hows it going dude? [00:33] not so bad HazRPG [00:33] how is egypt? [01:01] AlanBell: good good [01:02] AlanBell: yeah egypt isn't too bad really, slowly getting settled in (along with catching up on local family drama that they apparently didn't want to tell me about in the past because they didn't want me to worry too much) [01:03] AlanBell: amazing how much stuff happens when your not around 24/7 [01:04] weekends being friday/saturday just seems awkward btw [01:05] i was use to thurs/fri in saudi, and obv sat/sun UK... but fri/sat just seems random [01:09] AlanBell: looked at the source for myunity? [01:09] Good old BASIC [01:11] hurray for BASIC \o/ [01:15] [Jonathan Riddell] Plasma and KDE Applications 4.8 on Kubuntu - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4529 [01:15] BASIC? [01:16] oh, gambas [01:16] for people who pine after VB6 ._. [01:20] I was thinking more CB86 myself [01:21] QBASIC was the best BASIC [01:22] that was the free QuickBasic ? [01:22] or have I got it the wrong way round [07:09] aloha [07:53] popey: heh, no, I didn't realise it was BASIC [07:54] I did look at the source for compizconfig-settings-manager and I have patched it to remove the slider bars [08:19] morning all [08:23] greetings [08:35] Morning all [08:36] how are we all this fine friday morning [08:37] morning morning, i'm fine czajkowski thanks, hows the back? [08:37] good thanks [08:38] Not too bad, at least it's friday! [08:38] ace [08:38] was a little bit sore last nigth after physio [08:38] yay [08:38] that was to smittix not you czajkowski lol [08:38] heh [08:38] ;) [08:40] just changed all my dns over to opendns, so noticed and improvement. [08:40] So there is an improvement MooDoo ? [08:40] yes sorry, typo [08:41] Cool [09:00] Hello Ubuntuns [09:02] mrevell: Ubuntians? [09:03] Ubuntistas? [09:03] Ubunteros :) [09:03] Morning all [09:04] Good morning peeps [09:06] howdy ho [09:07] * popey slaps mrevell [09:07] * mrevell thanks popey [09:07] bug 272826 [09:07] Launchpad bug 272826 in Ubuntu Website ""Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272826 [09:08] not that I'm a female contributor [09:08] well, not on weekdays anyway [09:08] blame jono for that name, I think? :) [09:09] popey, My heart has sunk a little at being reminded of that bug. [09:09] heh [09:09] MartijnVdS, Jeff Waugh I think. [09:09] mrevell: That long ago already? Time flied :) [09:09] flies * [09:09] Sho does [09:10] we're gonna hit a million bugs soon [09:10] ONE MILLION BUGS *pinky at corner of mouth* [09:10] Waugh, huh, what is he good for? [09:10] PINK mentio... oh [09:11] Heh, awwww [09:11] Myrtti: I triggered a highlight? :) [09:11] MARMITE DAMNIT [09:13] yes. yes you did. [09:14] \o/ [09:14] i'm watching loads of bugs that should have been closed or obsoleted. is there a policy on closing stuff that realtes to unsupported releases? [09:15] Morning Ubuntlings [09:15] !!! IT'S FRIDAY !!! [09:16] TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 [09:16] Hmm, ubot knows nothing about IT'S FRIDAY [09:16] TheOpenSourcerer: time to teach it. [09:21] hmm bbpress doesnt seem to like permalinks === georgios is now known as GiorgioShooter [09:33] does xchat-gnome do native ubuntu notifications if someone mentions your name? [09:33] oimon: let's try :) [09:33] hmm [09:34] tryagain please? [09:34] oimon: let's try again! [09:34] meh. how lame [09:34] oimon: xchat does, don't know about the -gnome wrapper [09:34] orly, how weird [09:35] I don't actually know why there is a -gnome [09:36] allegedly a nicer ui [09:37] * oimon goes to check xchat plain === oimon_ is now known as oimon [09:41] hmm. xchat plain seems better :P [09:42] oimon: but what of the highlighting thingy? [09:42] oimon: is there OSD notification joy? [09:43] lol [09:43] Finnish news are laughing at Daily Mail [09:43] "Winter's coming with a vengeance... Siberian storm to bring -5C temperatures to Britain and the big freeze could last a month" [09:43] Siberian storm :-DDDDD [09:43] woo -5 [09:44] Myrtti: You're from Finland. Isn't -5°C a warm breeze over there? ;) [09:44] yes :-D [09:44] Myrtti: you know DM is not to be paid attention to? [09:44] bigcalm: i missed that due to no OSD :( [09:44] I seem to be listening to beach boys, and loving it. [09:44] bigcalm: I know, but one of our main tv channels doesn't [09:44] http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/ulkomaat.shtml/2012/01/1484628/kylmaa-on-kuin-siperiassa-tama-on-brittien-kasitys-asiasta [09:45] I don't think Spotify liked being hybernated :S [09:46] good morning everyone, [09:46] Hi brobostigon [09:46] g'morning brobostigon [09:46] morninf bigcalm and MartijnVdS [09:49] does anyone use Document templates? right click on desktop and look at the create documnet menu option [09:50] i've never even noticed it before. [09:53] i have noticed it, and never used it [09:55] oimon: or lack of templates, you mean [09:55] bug 372132 [09:55] Launchpad bug 372132 in nautilus (Ubuntu) ""Create Document" Templates difficult to use" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372132 [09:55] I don't think I even used that feature on ms windows [09:56] it would be useful if it allowed openoffice and other new documents, or new tomboy note [09:56] but rather pointless without clear guidance on adding templates, or without default ones [09:56] yep, I don't understand why they keep it empty, with only Empty Document available [09:57] the weird thing about the rationale behind keeping it empty, should mean that it is hidden until you add templates, since it is useless otherwise [10:01] Morning Campers [10:04] morning andylockran [10:04] oimon: wow, that is a really cool feature I never knew existed [10:04] AlanBell: yeah, and i've used ubuntu since 2004 [10:09] I use the Templates dir quite alot. Right click and create an invoice is pretty handy. [10:09] smittix: but it's poorly documented (to say the least) [10:09] that's been in nautilus for as long as I can remember. and always felt broken, since $XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR defaults to $HOME (or $HOME/Templates in ubuntu). feels like something that belongs under /usr/share so packages can populate it [10:11] shauno: both really [10:12] well being able to add them per-user is A Neat Trick. having 'new abiword document' there because you have abiword install just seems completely obvious [10:13] MartijnVdS: Yeah, I only found it through a some obscure google search. [10:13] relevant: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17439/ [10:14] wow, i'd forgotten all about that site [10:15] you and everyone else [10:17] well, there's nothing there saying that it's left for archive purposes and all the cool kids have moved to stackexchange. but good idea is still a good idea [10:17] someone reminded me the other day that slashdot still existed, surprised me [10:17] Fnar fnar [10:17] gord: CmdrTaco no longer works there though [10:18] slashdot still ha interesting stories [10:18] I prefer Ars myself [10:18] ArsTechnica++ [10:18] oeer missis [10:18] good recovery [10:18] I've never gotten around to removing slashdot from my feed reader, but they do tend to be a few days behind everyone else now [10:19] i always found the slashdot story feed to just be inflammatory articles designed to agitate its reader base. its the daily mail of software news [10:19] it saves me reading everything about everything. if i've already seen the story then meh, but otherwise the articles are often interesting topics [10:19] but gord, you read reddit :P [10:19] for the cat pictures! [10:20] reddit.com/r/aww is where it is at [10:20] gord: /r/adviceanimals [10:20] just realised i'd left that picture of a massive breakfast open in image viewer...and it's friday...hungry now [10:20] face it guys, we're too old for reddit [10:20] it's for kids [10:21] oimon: Reddit is fun. [10:21] am 25 years old, prime demographic [10:21] gord: ah you look older :P [10:21] oimon: I can let my trolling bits run wild there ;) [10:21] (no NOT on /r/gonewild) [10:21] (nsfw, obviously) [10:22] demographic of reddit seems to be kids to want to know how to do stuff to girls [10:22] oimon: that's /r/askreddit. Just point them at /r/seduction and THEN point SRS at them :) [10:23] Trolling at its finest [10:23] i never visit reddit ☹ [10:23] unless someone links to something specific [10:23] popey: you shuold :) [10:23] I rarely leave reddit. I have an exceptionally dull job. [10:23] the key to reddit is to just find your niche, subscribe to the smaller subreddits that you find interesting and remove the bigger annoying ones full of morons [10:24] gord: and /r/random [10:28] really wish the local co-op wasn't having a sale on christmas chocolates. i bought these cadbury heroes for dirt cheep on monday and have inhaled 2/3rds the box [10:32] \o/ cleaner has left, i can emerge from my cave [10:33] To the pope-mobile! [10:33] lol [10:33] Cleaner?!?!? Don't you work from home now ? [10:33] main reason i don't have a cleaner, the awkwardness [10:33] diplo: yes, i work from home, I don't clean from home [10:33] jerry seinfeld put it best. i'm sorry i'm such a slob.. i could of cleaned that up, i'm just lazy. i know. i'm so sorry [10:34] pfft :) [10:34] wifey works full time too [10:36] Anyone any good with Wordpress? [10:36] wassup? [10:37] Installed BBPress and it doesnt seem to like Permalinks. [10:37] never used bbpress [10:37] ahh, actually let me see if mod_rewrite is actually on. [10:49] HAH, What a dumbass. I hadn't even enabled mod_rewrite,duh. [10:49] * MartijnVdS points & laughs [10:49] ;) [10:49] :) [10:50] I was setting the VPS up all night. I was tired ;) [11:00] morning all [11:00] czajkowski: prod prod prodity prod prod prod prodity prod prod prod prod proddity prod! [11:00] cleaners are great. wifey doesn't work and we can barely afford it, but she is looking after our sprog. the cleaner works like a maniac for 2hrs and the house is good again [11:00] for another week [11:03] davmor2: https://twitter.com/#!/bigcalm/status/162645009705869312 [11:03] hi davmor2 [11:03] MooDoo: morning dude [11:03] bigcalm: nice [11:04] davmor2: it was waiting for me when I got home, hanging from the letter box [11:04] So no worries [11:05] I'll probably bring it in 2 weeks. So very pleased with it [11:05] bigcalm: looks good to be honest [11:06] davmor2: and it was a good job I bought the Xoom when I did. It's no longer for sale on the Carphone Warehouse site [11:08] Gosh darn you skype. You've become rather pants in the last 16 hours [11:08] bigcalm: You use skype? [11:09] I guess you use skype for verbal, and ICQ for text chat? How are those flares doing? :) [11:10] Daviey: I use skype for business calls and some clients like to converse over it as well [11:10] Daviey: It's a work thing for him bless [11:10] Daviey: flares have moth holes in them :( [11:10] bigcalm: install skype on your xoom and try that instead :) [11:11] Heh, tempting [11:11] Morning [11:12] * daubers attemptes to coat his throat in chocolatey goodness [11:13] If I get sick, I'll blame Alex and gord. But mostly Alex I think [11:14] why me?! [11:14] i'm a victim [11:14] Heh [11:14] Possibly infectious [11:14] i'm going to bring smallpox next time out of spite [11:15] bigcalm: just go on #wolveslug and blame moreati directly :D [11:15] Haha [11:20] Oh my goodness [11:20] I now have skype set up on the Xoom to take calls [11:21] And it works \o/ [11:21] davmor2: ta for the suggestion [11:21] No idea if the video conferencing works though [11:22] bigcalm: I'd go and get mine and tell you to call me but I can't be bothered :P [11:23] Hah [11:25] * smittix can't stop listening to Massive Attack - Tear Drops [11:25] Damn you spotify. [11:25] lol [11:26] I always do it with songs I like though. I will wear them out and not like them a week later. === j0nr_ is now known as j0nr [12:11] davmor2: good day to you [12:11] czajkowski: prod! [12:17] christel: Just came across a refence to this, thought you'd like it http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L_xtQKmEeWU/S-nmKg_pX5I/AAAAAAAABtI/mQD6D5IZNjw/s1600/DSCF0821.JPG [12:18] Gooooooooo [12:18] * christel looksies [12:19] OH MY GOD [12:20] christel: but none for you :P [12:23] christel: Its supposed to be starting to appear in the shops [12:28] And nobody knows where it comes from [12:28] It just appears [12:28] I blame gremlins [12:29] any a11y guys about? if so how do you expand a collapsed tab? [12:30] * davmor2 is spending a day in orca/keyboard land to see what you can and can't do in USC [12:31] whoo sheldon is behaving well. abotyer 117 updates to go [12:32] might get rid of the annoying crash when I boot up and do nothing but seemingy something is broken [12:32] o/ davmor2 [12:32] collapsed tab?? [12:34] AlanBell: goto the installed tab in USC you see accessories etc normally you would click on the pissy little arrow to expand the tab [12:34] usc is a train wreak [12:36] AlanBell: Yes I know I'm being selfish though in that if I can get the A11y working better for orca/and real people it will help with test automation through things like ldtp [12:36] davmor2: enter or sometimes right [12:36] AlanBell: tried both nothing [12:36] yeah, ldtp is great [12:36] usc is full of nonstandard non-gtk non-working widgets [12:37] that isn't a real treeview control [12:37] AlanBell: it say it is [12:38] + and - on the numeric keypad [12:38] AlanBell: that's the one thanks [12:38] that might end up putting you into orca flat review mode too [12:39] so even with a mouse I can't expand the categories by double clicking the names of them [12:39] AlanBell: no that seemed to work, however notification, notifyosd is starting to get on my wick [12:40] what you want is my speech dispatcher plugin that gets orca to append text to /tmp/orca.out [12:41] then you can tail -f orca.out in a window so you can read what it says [12:41] AlanBell: unfortunately it just crashed USC not so good :) [12:42] AlanBell: No I have gwibber on the go so it keeps popping up notification notifyosd not very useful to be honest :( [12:43] AlanBell: it's a real eye opener on how bad an experience you are likely to get to be honest :( [12:43] indeed, going eyes-free is an eye-opener [12:44] at the moment barely anything apart from ubiquity has had any attention to orca readability [12:46] Oh wow, this Graphene stuff is so cool it's beginning to hurt: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/115909-graphene-the-perfect-water-filter [12:49] That is fantastic [12:50] Super-vodka! [12:51] \o/ super-vodka! :) [12:51] davmor2: every time a custom widget is used a kitten dies [12:53] AlanBell: That has no effect on me, replace kitten with czajkowski and then I'd care who would I have to pick on then :D [13:06] Funny, a friend is touring in SE Asia. She's just checked in to somewhere in Laos. I saw a "Get Directions" link on FB and thought it would be funny to see what it said... Bing Maps said - can't find a route. :-( [13:07] Google, in about 2 secs gave me a 7500 driving direction map. :-) [13:07] aww :) [13:07] 7809miles - 7 days. [13:07] No stops. [13:07] :-( [13:07] Through some very dodgy areas too. [13:08] So I guess maybe Bing is right to not suggest a driving route. [13:09] Krygystan, Tajikistan, Afganistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Burma... Dodgy. [13:11] Or I go through Iran on the alternative route :-D [13:16] Wow.. Google knows enough roads to plan a road trip to Asia. [13:16] Modern tech++ [13:16] Yeah - two ways/ [13:19] TheOpenSourcerer: what if you 'avoid highways' [13:20] * MartijnVdS is trying to find the longest possible route [13:20] from anywhere to anywhere [13:21] Dunno - Try it yourself. Stick an interesting destination like somewhere in Cambodia... [13:21] Longest route would probably be to Vladivostok or somewhere on the east coast of Russia. Or perhaps Alaska to Tierra del Feugo [13:22] TheOpenSourcerer: Cape Town to Колыма [13:22] TheOpenSourcerer: 19 days :) [13:23] Cool. [13:56] mmm Fried Chicken [14:10] When I add a PPA and update my sources list it says not found. Why is this? [14:11] kvarley: maybe the PPA doesn't exist for your version of Ubuntu [14:14] MartijnVdS: Ah yeah, that's the case [14:14] MartijnVdS: Ty [14:18] has any one seen a scenario when building a software RAID1 array via the 10.04LTS installer in which when creating the first MD device the only partitions listed are sda1 and sda2 - no sda1 and sdb1? [14:23] * mattt is waiting on lunch [14:23] * iclebyte doesn't seem to get lunches these days === aquarius__ is now known as aquarius [14:46] iclebyte: that's horrible ... lunch is essential [14:47] hey guys, i'm setting up a linode, using ubuntu 11.10 - and i've logged into it via ssh. it's telling me to do the following: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/818885/ what's the command to edit via console again, I'm not 100% sure [14:47] thanks [14:48] haaah. kinect advert, runs on ubuntu ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsu-6wfCH7M [14:52] Supermanintights: vi/nano [14:53] thanks [15:02] davmor2: I can confirm that video calls do not work with skype on the Xoom [15:03] thats rubbish [15:03] They don't? [15:03] Doesn't work for me [15:03] works on the transformer [15:03] * MartijnVdS uses GTalk anyway [15:03] Locks up the app which eventually has to be force closed [15:04] Voice calls work just fine [15:04] oh, thats different [15:05] Installing skype told me that the device wasn't supported but might work anyway [15:05] So it does and it doesn't :) [15:05] Not that I need to use video calling for work though [15:06] i left a transformer on, on my desk and suddenly skype call started, my brother was drunk video calling me [15:06] Haha [15:06] popey: nice [15:06] I'm glad that I can sign into the same account on multiple devices [15:07] Skype IM on my workstation (which has a useable keyboard). Skype Audio on my Xoom (which doesn't). [15:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsu-6wfCH7M muhahahahah does this mean we can add this to bug1 1:47 in not the gnome menu :D [15:10] hi [15:17] tea ♥ [15:21] well spotted davmor2 [15:21] AlanBell: not me someone else I just thought everyone else would like it :) [15:22] AlanBell: Shockingly in USC it's not quite as bad as I thought, it's mostly badly name/keyboard interactive buttons that seem to be the issue [15:23] AlanBell: admittedly I am on page 3 of the bug report [15:23] there is a lot of unexpected navigation that doesn't work, like the thing on the left that you can't go up and down, you have to tab [15:24] and the toolbar fake notebook tabs with dropdown menus that are not menus [15:24] AlanBell: already noted also it has no name so you don't know what you are tabbing up and down === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 2nd February 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | ☕ Tea & baked beans ftw \o/ | [15:24] * AlanBell expects a hot drink [15:24] haha [15:24] soo predictable [15:24] AlanBell: Warm whiskey? [15:25] ☑ [15:25] ☕ [15:25] haha [15:25] Too bad the Unicode6 emoticons don't play well with Irssi, or Screen [15:25] so many special chars [15:25] :/ [15:25] 😣 [15:26] it's screen [15:26] we are a channel full of special characters [15:26] j.p.c [15:26] that didn't work in YChat either [15:26] popey, haha :D [15:30] popey: and so says EPIC BRIAN :D [15:47] popey: did you get paid much for that appearance? [15:47] wut? [15:48] EPIC BRIAN :p [15:48] i have no idea what you're on about [15:48] popey is sooo MoneySuperMarket.com [15:48] you must have seen the advert? [15:48] AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/922657 that's as far as I could get tabbing in webkitaccessibilty core dumped USC :( [15:48] Ubuntu bug 922657 in software-center (Ubuntu) "The Big A11y/orca/keyboard only list" [Undecided,New] [15:49] am I imagining things? [15:49] AlanBell: feel free to add any I missed :) [15:50] * Pendulum subscribes to bug [15:50] awesome [15:51] davmor2: also thank you :) [15:52] Pendulum: I did say I would stay on top of them, again purely selfish reasons it'll make automation easier :) [15:52] hmm, listening to the moody blues, nights in white satin, the picture in vlc is starwars errant knight [15:53] zleap: and what is wrong with that, he is a knight in white satin ;) [15:54] nothing it is supposded to display the album or single cover, it does however come up with some really interesting pictures sometimes [15:55] AlanBell, can i message you please ? [15:55] zleap: sure, but I might go unresponsive, loads of screaming kids are about to arrive [15:55] ok [15:56] unity spotify people do you use the spotify scope? [15:56] I want new spotify :( [15:57] do you still have to pay for spotify to get the linux version? [15:57] Time to look at windows version in wine [15:57] No idea, but I pay [15:58] gord: no idea I just saw the top ten lens link in omgubuntu and thought I'd have a look [15:58] I probably use it as much on my mobile, so I pay as well [15:58] davmor2: i have used it [15:58] everyone says spotify is a really great thing, but last time i used it it was horrible... should try it again i guess [15:59] Nope, windows version doesn't work in wine in 11.10 for me :( [16:00] crazy people still on 11.10 [16:00] :P [16:01] (it prolly doesn't work on 12.04 either) [16:01] gord: add me to the crazy list, I have all sorts :P [16:01] i don't have a crazy list, i have a "sane" list. it consists of me and my cat. [16:01] Mow [16:01] 9.10/10.04 and 11.10 here :/ [16:02] Scared breaking my revo putting 11.10 on it for xbmc :) [16:02] breaks on two of my other machines [16:02] gord: ther eare one to many on that list.......the cat can stay [16:03] i think one of my xbmc machines is on maverick. eh. no point in upgrading them [16:03] i'll prolly upgrade them all to 12.04 once that is out and stay on there [16:04] gord: for a couple of years or so right :) [16:04] * hamitron is waiting till he does anything major [16:05] davmor2, 5 is the aim ;) [16:05] spotify seems to think every computer is a mac [16:06] gord: Yeah but they'll be a newer lts out in 2 years :) [16:06] right. but for an xbmc, what is there that i could want in a newer lts? [16:06] wut. spotify is in qt. but uses the gtk file chooser? [16:07] gord: shiny shiny [16:07] gord: oh nice [16:09] well spotify just crashes constantly and couldn't play half my mp3 files. nevermind then. [16:10] gord, you using eden ? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:19] How might I use grep to find instances of bigcalm: I'd first grep for the bigcalm: -v gives you results which don't contain the search string, so you'd be stripping out drhodesmumby: indeed, I use it to remove svn results. Ta for the mental prod :) [16:21] bigcalm: no problem. :-) [16:23] Hello everyone by the way. [16:24] beware of unescaped chevrons when grepping like that [16:25] I've wiped-out whole logfiles grepping for usernames in IRC logs. [16:25] My line did what I needed :) [16:25] grep -r " Linux saves an otherwise disastrous day :D [16:26] Short tags are rife in this project and it's not working when short tags are disabled :) [16:27] There's probably a more elegant way to do it with a single grep, but quite frankly why dig when pipes and -v are so simple? :P [16:28]