[07:30] <MarkDude> dragon, ping
[19:23] <MarkDude> dragon, pingy
[19:56] <dragon> MarkDude: pong!
[19:58] <Ttech> A real dragon?
[19:58] <dragon> Yes, very real.
[19:58] <Ttech> :o
[19:58] <Ttech> And it speaks, and does not bite!
[19:59] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Do you have lodging plans yet for CLS/OSCON?
[19:59] <bkerensa> I might be able to house you for a few days
[20:06] <MarkDude> dragon, pm
[20:06] <MarkDude> bkerensa, not yet
[20:06] <MarkDude> Can we throw a party there?
[20:06]  * MarkDude already has some sponsors
[20:07] <MarkDude> Like we did year before last with Ryan MFing Singer
[20:27] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Idk if its low key I guess but if not the guy who owns GroundKontrol told me anytime Ubuntu Oregon needs the space just to call and let him know
[20:27] <bkerensa> I got plenty of places to throw parties
[20:52] <MarkDude> Right on
[20:52] <MarkDude> I will start planning OSCON stuff next
[20:52] <MarkDude> month
[21:24] <philipballew> UDS  Sponsorships open
[21:24] <Ttech> mmm
[21:25] <philipballew> probably gonna apply this weekend
[22:07] <nhaines> I can tell I'm getting older.  First of all, I had to take a nap at lunch.  So that's new in the past couple of years.
[22:07] <nhaines> Then, my brain said "Enter S3 suspend mode."  My arm said "Entering S4 hibernate mode!" and now my back is saying "bad sectors found."
[22:48] <akk> heh, nhaines
[22:48] <akk> I'm not sure that's a sign of getting older as much as getting geekier :)
[22:49] <nhaines> :)
[23:03] <pleia2> naps++
[23:04] <bkerensa> heh
[23:04] <bkerensa> :(
[23:04] <bkerensa> I find needing naps more often but then again I also stay up till 2am/3am most days
[23:04] <bkerensa> :P
[23:05] <bkerensa> philipballew: Hello :D
[23:06] <philipballew> bkerensa, how goes it
[23:06] <philipballew> i am about to out out a blog post on scale tonight/tomorrow morning
[23:07] <bkerensa> yeah cool
[23:07]  * bkerensa has to start packing tonight
[23:07] <philipballew> bkerensa, where you goin?
[23:07] <bkerensa> then pack all day tomorrow and hopefully sunday by 11am I should have a fleet of trucks and vehicles here :)
[23:08] <bkerensa> Moving across town
[23:08] <bkerensa> :P
[23:08] <bkerensa> Portland is big though so its essentially like moving from San Francisco to say South San Francisco
[23:09] <philipballew> id help if i could. ill be in portland come july for like 9 days probably
[23:09] <bkerensa> :D
[23:09] <bkerensa> Do it
[23:09] <bkerensa> :D
[23:09] <bkerensa> jcastro from Canonical will be here for OSCON I just found out
[23:10] <bkerensa> and MarkDude will be coming
[23:10] <philipballew> i just need to find a way to stay up there on the cheep. i think i have an uncle who lives there. i went to lunch with jcastro last weekend
[23:10] <nhaines> Jorge is pretty awesome.
[23:10] <bkerensa> I have not met him
[23:10] <bkerensa> :D
[23:10] <nhaines> I've met him twice, and he was awesome in 2008 too.  :)
[23:10] <bkerensa> I met Jono last year though and he is pretty cool but a very busy guy
[23:10] <bkerensa> :)
[23:11] <nhaines> Jono's also very cool, but probably too busy for his own good.
[23:11] <bkerensa> He never had time to breath someone was constantly wanting to talk to him or interview him the entire convention
[23:11] <philipballew> true, he needs to take a few weeks off
[23:12] <bkerensa> months
[23:12] <bkerensa> :D
[23:12] <philipballew> he finished unity damage controll so thats nice now though
[23:12] <bkerensa> philipballew: You should try to be here for CLS I'm telling you its better than OSCON or any convention in my opinion
[23:13] <philipballew> i will. I just need to figure out how to live in portland for that long
[23:13] <philipballew> it makes the 4 day osscon into like 8 days
[23:14] <bkerensa> hmm
[23:14] <bkerensa> I will see what I can figure out
[23:14] <bkerensa> surely someone from Ubuntu Oregon can house you if I can't
[23:14] <philipballew> If someone from organ can I would be indebted
[23:15] <bkerensa> I will send a e-mail to our list in June and ask who would be willing to let travelers couch surf
[23:16] <bkerensa> I saw two people sleep at the convention center last year
[23:16] <bkerensa> =o
[23:16] <bkerensa> they just slept behind their booth
[23:16] <pleia2> hah
[23:17] <philipballew> Thats what I was gonna do at scale untill scale saw that and threw me in a hotel room.
[23:17] <bkerensa> I don't think it was preference though because those floors are cement with thin carpet
[23:17] <philipballew> I can do that for you and keep the convention floor safe
[23:17] <bkerensa> lol
[23:17] <philipballew> at 19 i am pretty adaptable
[23:18] <philipballew> 20 soon
[23:18] <nhaines> Ha, that's why you need to bring a mat.
[23:18] <bkerensa> :P philipballew who put you in a hotel? Gareth?
[23:18] <bkerensa> :D
[23:19] <philipballew> bkerensa, still unsure. I got an email from someone saying i got one with dave and I thought it was a really cool thing!
[23:19] <bkerensa> yeah
[23:19] <bkerensa> :D
[23:19] <Ttech> i wish I could go to oscon
[23:21] <bkerensa> you guys should all carpool
[23:21] <bkerensa> make MarkDude bring you
[23:21] <bkerensa> :P
[23:21] <Ttech> We could. :P
[23:21] <bkerensa> he already does a carpool up
[23:21] <Ttech> But I have no place to stay!
[23:21] <philipballew> ill be in sac at that time
[23:21] <Ttech> oh
[23:21] <bkerensa> but its Fedora people so they will bash Ubuntu :P
[23:21] <philipballew> sleep in the car
[23:21] <Ttech> no carpool then.
[23:22] <Ttech> bkerensa, I play nice with fedora people. :P
[23:22]  * philipballew cant :)
[23:22] <Ttech> haha
[23:22] <Ttech> philipballew, so you will be driving up from northern?
[23:22] <Ttech> Its going to be a very loong drive otherwise
[23:23] <akk> Long drive either way.
[23:23] <akk> But less long from sac.
[23:23] <bkerensa> I see it this way... I think you should all carpool
[23:24] <bkerensa> and rent a suite at the Crowne Plaza
[23:24] <bkerensa> :D
[23:24] <bkerensa> $220 a night and you can easily fit 6+ people
[23:24] <Ttech> bkerensa, Where abouts are you?
[23:24] <philipballew> Ttech, maybe, or finding a creigslist rideshare. you can crash at my place for a few days untill we head up via cheep ride if youd like
[23:25] <Ttech> philipballew, :o
[23:25] <pleia2> ticket price for the event itself has tended to be quite the deterrent for me, even with something like a 20% LUG discount (the company I work for doesn't pay for me to go)
[23:25] <bkerensa> Ttech: I'm in Portland
[23:25] <Ttech> Ah
[23:25] <Ttech> bkerensa, MUCH closer.
[23:25] <pleia2> plus travel, hotel... too much :\
[23:26] <bkerensa> pleia2: We get free passes?
[23:26] <pleia2> bkerensa: who is "we"?
[23:26] <akk> The actual OSCON conference (the talks) is crazy expensive.
[23:26] <bkerensa> Obviously not unlimited but surely enough to handle a few californians
[23:26] <bkerensa> pleia2: Ubuntu Oregon
[23:26] <bkerensa> all dot org booths get free passes
[23:26] <Ttech> philipballew, I've never done a craiglist rideshare.
[23:26] <pleia2> bkerensa: are you asking? I don't know
[23:26] <Ttech> it sounds like hitchhiking for the digital world
[23:26] <philipballew> its usually pretty good
[23:27] <Ttech> philipballew, neat!
[23:27] <bkerensa> and for talks and sessions they give us a stack of golden passes that accompany our exhibitor passes
[23:27] <bkerensa> no no I'm saying this is what they do
[23:27] <bkerensa> :)
[23:27] <pleia2> oh ok, your question mark confused me :)
[23:27] <Ttech> bkerensa, oh. thats neat. So everyone gets free entry?
[23:27] <bkerensa> valorie and one other WA loco person came down plus we had 5+ people
[23:27] <Ttech> to stuff?
[23:28] <bkerensa> so they comp'ed 7 people just for Ubuntu Oregon
[23:28] <bkerensa> Ttech: That was the case last year
[23:28] <Ttech> bkerensa, Nice.
[23:28] <bkerensa> I know all the people who handle each function so I don't think the situation is going to be to different if at all this year
[23:30] <bkerensa> For me I don't much care about being in all the talks because running the booth has me busy and plus you can watch all the talks and sessions online
[23:30] <nhaines> pleia2: indicator of confusion causes confusion? :)
[23:31] <akk> bkerensa: You can? Two years ago OSCON didn't record most talks -- did they last year?
[23:31] <bkerensa> yeah most of the big ones
[23:31] <bkerensa> all the keynotes
[23:31] <pleia2> nhaines: truth
[23:31] <bkerensa> eck
[23:32] <bkerensa> all the main speakers
[23:32] <bkerensa> then they had streaming too
[23:32] <bkerensa> the problem is accessing the net from the convention center
[23:32] <bkerensa> :D
[23:32] <bkerensa> its rather impossible at most times
[23:32] <pleia2> I bring a 3G modem these days
[23:33] <bkerensa> cell tower also was taking a beating
[23:33] <bkerensa> well at least for AT&T
[23:33] <bkerensa> :(
[23:33] <pleia2> Sprint++
[23:33] <bkerensa> I had solid signal but my service was horrible :P
[23:33] <pleia2> I can also tether through my phone, so if Sprint is fail I have t-mobile
[23:33] <bkerensa> heh
[23:33] <bkerensa> :D
[23:34] <pleia2> when I was at NANOG in philly they actually took over the whole hotel network throughout the building, it was awesome
[23:34] <pleia2> apparently a guy knew a guy
[23:34] <bkerensa> well this year I hope to ask Linbit to let us use their dedicated internet port they pay for and just hook up a router and have a hotspot
[23:34] <bkerensa> I think the big problem I have to deal with is
[23:34] <bkerensa> power
[23:34] <bkerensa> :(
[23:35] <bkerensa> O'Reilly only covers a booth with cover so we have to pay for power and chairs and boy are they expensive
[23:35] <bkerensa> Power is $200
[23:35] <bkerensa> and chairs are $75 to $150 a pop
[23:36] <nhaines> bkerensa: bring an exercise bike hooked to a generator.
[23:36] <bkerensa> Last year I ended up asking someone to sponsor our power cost and they did and as for chairs we snuck some in
[23:36] <bkerensa> nhaines: :P
[23:37] <nhaines> bkerensa: then when visitors to the booth ask how they can contribute to the project, just point at the bike.  :P
[23:38] <pleia2> lol
[23:38] <pleia2> we usually just end up using chairs to pile stuff on ;) so I wouldn't see lack of chairs as a problem so much
[23:39] <bkerensa> pleia2: You guys stand all day?
[23:39] <pleia2> jcastro came by our booth and helped for a bit, we were all like "aah, tired of standing" and he took the opportunity to tell us about his standing desk
[23:39] <pleia2> bkerensa: yeah, we pretty much talk to people non-stop at the booth, no time to sit
[23:39] <pleia2> (at least at SCALE)
[23:40] <nhaines> Yeah, I've always just spent the entire time at the booth standing.
[23:40] <bkerensa> Last year we had a demo laptop so people could check out Unity
[23:41] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8659143@N08/6737910193/
[23:41] <bkerensa> and we just sort of sat and if people came by we would ask if they had questions and would like a CD or brochure etc
[23:41] <nhaines> Friends came by just as the SCALE Tour came up and asked if someone could give a 2 minute rundown of our project and I volunteered.  They were impressed by the speech.
[23:41] <pleia2> ^ chairs, not being sat in :)
[23:42] <bkerensa> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntuoregon/6602053303/in/photostream <-- chairs being sat in with giant penguin attacking
[23:42] <bkerensa> :P
[23:42] <pleia2> but we really get no down time at scale, it slows down after breaks but it never really stops
[23:42] <bkerensa> huh
[23:42] <bkerensa> we have downtime once a day when they bring beer onto the floor
[23:42] <bkerensa> :D
[23:42] <pleia2> they couldn't get the keg open
[23:42] <pleia2> hehe
[23:42] <bkerensa> then everyone goes to booths that have beer
[23:42] <bkerensa> and we dont so they leave :D
[23:43] <nhaines> pleia2: I actually saw the photographer pull out the camera in my periphrial vision and smiled for the picture without taking my eyes off the person I was talking to.
[23:43] <pleia2> nhaines: haha, nice
[23:44] <pleia2> I still need to blog about scale, in which I give Jesse 50 gold stars
[23:44] <bkerensa> I try to spend 60% of the time at the booth and the rest of the time spent talking with other exhibitors and trying to find sponsors for events throughout the year
[23:44] <pleia2> he's always an exceptional booth volunteer :)
[23:45] <nhaines> jbermudes has been consistantly awesome over the last 5 years.  :)
[23:48] <bkerensa> pleia2: Heh http://pnw.ubuntu-us.org/
[23:50] <pleia2> hah, what is pnw?
[23:50] <bkerensa> heh :)
[23:50] <bkerensa> the reason MarkDude thinks Oregon keeps getting denied approval :P
[23:50] <bkerensa> PNW was Oregon/WA/Idaho
[23:50] <pleia2> ah
[23:51] <pleia2> he's full of conspiracy theories :)
[23:51] <bkerensa> indeed
[23:51] <bkerensa> he wanted to make a scene on our behalf and I asked kindly not too :P
[23:51] <bkerensa> idk PNW is really old it was disbanded by CC a long time ago
[23:51] <nhaines> I thought Oregon was denied last time because it contained no one from Oregon.
[23:52] <bkerensa> nah
[23:52] <bkerensa> Dan Shufelt was the last lead to apply
[23:52] <bkerensa> and he was from Portland too
[23:52] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't think the loco council even knows about PNW
[23:52] <Ttech> top secret?
[23:52] <pleia2> and thanks for talking him down :)
[23:52] <bkerensa> pleia2: Paultag does the new council likely not
[23:52]  * bkerensa barely knows about PNW :)
[23:53] <bkerensa> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-pnw/2010-November/000261.html <-- we still use its resources though
[23:54] <pleia2> the last attempt at approval did prompt a review of the documented approval requirements though, so that's good
[23:54] <pleia2> my 3DS is home :)
[23:54] <nhaines> pleia2: :D
[23:54] <pleia2> it even turns on!
[23:55]  * pleia2 goes to put it on charger
[23:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: is the 3DS better then the regular DS?
[23:55] <nhaines> bkerensa: vastly better.
[23:55] <bkerensa> hmm
[23:56] <pleia2> it's full of internets
[23:56] <bkerensa> I was a big fan of the older gameboys and I got a Nintendo DS a year or two ago and was not too thrilled but maybe its just the games
[23:56] <bkerensa> I used to love the old zelda on gameboy
[23:56] <bkerensa> :D
[23:56] <nhaines> bkerensa: you can buy that for 3DS Virtual Console for like $5.99 I think.
[23:56] <bkerensa> oh
[23:57] <nhaines> And since I couldn't justify the DX version when I got my GBC, I did!  :D
[23:58] <nhaines> Also, Super Mario 3D Land is super fun.