| snap-l | I'm OK with this no snow thing. | 00:40 |
|---|---|---|
| tjagoda | I hate you. | 00:44 |
| tjagoda | =( | 00:44 |
| snap-l | Had an awesome interview. | 01:32 |
| snap-l | Love it when I have an interview that makes me want to hang out with the band afterward. | 01:33 |
| rick_h | very cool man, congrats | 01:40 |
| tjagoda | I need to browse around launchpad in preparation for my 10 minute monday interview | 01:45 |
| tjagoda | I'm gonna namedrop rick_h all the time. | 01:47 |
| tjagoda | "We go clubbin' on the weekends, rick_h and I." | 01:48 |
| rick_h | tjagoda: heh, not sure that's the best bet yet. | 01:49 |
| tjagoda | I am kidding. | 01:50 |
| tjagoda | Except the part about clubbing. | 01:50 |
| tjagoda | Thats 300% truth. | 01:50 |
| rick_h | woot! do do do dum dum dum clubbing | 01:51 |
| tjagoda | http://r721.livejournal.com/10526.html | 01:52 |
| tjagoda | Holy christ | 01:52 |
| tjagoda | https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat | 02:29 |
| tjagoda | ^ That is good. | 02:29 |
| rick_h | yea, Gary is awesome | 02:29 |
| rick_h | man, having co-workers in Australia sucks. I've been working late/early every night since I got back from budapest | 02:30 |
| rick_h | don't they know it's dark outside?! | 02:30 |
| jjesse | wow is there something making ou have those weird hours? | 02:30 |
| rick_h | we started a group project in budapest we're trying to get landed still | 02:31 |
| rick_h | and it was kind of my baby so I'm the goto for "this is broken, how do we fix it?" | 02:31 |
| tjagoda | I wonder how often the support dudes travel | 02:31 |
| rick_h | right now travel is near nil | 02:32 |
| rick_h | unless you're the cloud folks really | 02:32 |
| tjagoda | Surges up around UDS times probably? | 02:32 |
| rick_h | it depends on where you're at. LP only sends one/two guys to UDS | 02:33 |
| rick_h | unity guys go more often to get feedback/discuss that, etc | 02:33 |
| tjagoda | Makes sense | 02:33 |
| tjagoda | I am not opposed to travel | 02:35 |
| tjagoda | But constant large trips would grate on me eventually I think | 02:35 |
| rick_h | yea, it's cool. But I don't think you'd see a ton of it personally | 02:35 |
| tjagoda | Like those roaming consultants who live out of suitcases 323 days out of the year | 02:35 |
| rick_h | after pycon I think I'll be grounded the rest of the year | 02:35 |
| tjagoda | I dont understand how thats possible | 02:35 |
| rick_h | heh, like jjesse :) | 02:35 |
| jjesse | hey i was only in a hotel 103 nights this year | 02:37 |
| _stink_ | damn | 02:37 |
| jjesse | i think my high is 130? | 02:38 |
| jjesse | so its down | 02:38 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Wow, that's disgusting | 02:38 |
| jjesse | 2 weeks in a row is pretty doable, the 3rd week is hard | 02:39 |
| jjesse | if i trail 4 weeks in a row I take my wife and sone w/ me | 02:39 |
| tjagoda | Our ERP consultant | 02:42 |
| tjagoda | Logged 300+ hotel days last year | 02:43 |
| tjagoda | I think it was in the 330's | 02:43 |
| jjesse | i have some co-workers like that | 02:43 |
| jjesse | months on the road | 02:43 |
| _stink_ | god | 02:46 |
| _stink_ | i hope they don't know anyone | 02:46 |
| jjesse | the head of our consultants joke that employees aren't allowed to either be married or marry :) | 02:47 |
| tjagoda | Its insane | 02:47 |
| tjagoda | you have to live in some kind of tiny condo or something | 02:47 |
| tjagoda | there is no way you can afford to have a lawn with 330 hotel days =P | 02:47 |
| greg-g | screw even renting, just stay in a hotel at "home" if you're only there 35 days/year | 03:11 |
| jjesse | exactly | 03:11 |
| greg-g | it'd be free with all your points, anyway | 03:11 |
| jjesse | as long as you gt all the bonuses :) | 03:11 |
| tjagoda | I dont even comprehend that much travel logistically | 03:12 |
| tjagoda | Laundry would be painful | 03:12 |
| jjesse | not really most hotels will do it for you | 03:13 |
| jjesse | dry clean etc | 03:13 |
| tjagoda | This is news to me | 03:13 |
| jjesse | it will cost you | 03:13 |
| tjagoda | <--- obviously not a consultant | 03:13 |
| jjesse | but they will take care of it | 03:13 |
| snap-l | Ugh | 11:41 |
| snap-l | I mean, morning | 11:41 |
| rick_h | yea, TGIF | 12:23 |
| snap-l | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112336 <- Hmmmm... | 12:25 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | morning | 12:30 |
| snap-l | Ordered | 12:36 |
| rick_h | ooh, fancy case | 12:36 |
| snap-l | Yeah, need some better airflow for this machine | 12:38 |
| snap-l | Mobo is at 55c | 12:38 |
| brousch | mostly better today | 12:43 |
| rick_h | mostly better? | 12:44 |
| brousch | me | 12:44 |
| rick_h | ugh, lucky @!#$@ | 12:44 |
| brousch | i think it's intestinal blockage. moving slowly | 12:44 |
| brousch | at least i can move today | 12:44 |
| rick_h | oh yummy, my yogurt tastes a ton better now thanks | 12:44 |
| brousch | had to cancel my presentation yesterday | 12:45 |
| brousch | yogurt. damn that's a good idea | 12:45 |
| brousch | i might run out and get some | 12:45 |
| rick_h | yogurt and a piece of fruit, standard 150cal breakfast wheeee | 12:46 |
| rick_h | though I think this weekend with the wife away the boy and I might go out and get some real breakfast out :) | 12:46 |
| brousch | denny's? | 12:47 |
| rick_h | naw, Mels, local place | 12:47 |
| Wolfger | Mel's Diner? Say "hi" to Alice, Flo, and Vera. | 12:48 |
| brousch | so you're gonna be skinnier than i am next time i see you? | 12:48 |
| rick_h | Wolfger: yea, thuogh I don't think Alice is there | 12:48 |
| Wolfger | also: Good morning | 12:48 |
| rick_h | brousch: 206 on weigh in day wed. Lowest in about a decade for me | 12:49 |
| Wolfger | also: today is going to be a Yakety Sax day, I can feel it... | 12:49 |
| rick_h | hah | 12:49 |
| Wolfger | rick_h: awesome! | 12:49 |
| brousch | wow, i was 205 this morning, and that's because i lost like 5lbs yesterday | 12:49 |
| rick_h | I think you're a little bit taller than me though | 12:49 |
| Wolfger | 205, 206... I need to get way back down there again | 12:49 |
| rick_h | but yea, by the time you see me next (release party maybe?) I'm hoping to be < 200 for the first time since college | 12:50 |
| * snap-l whistles | 12:50 | |
| Wolfger | 205 is like my goal weight. | 12:50 |
| brousch | congrats | 12:50 |
| rick_h | if I can kill this damn cold and get back to the gym | 12:50 |
| rick_h | ugh...sucky week | 12:50 |
| snap-l | that's awesome, rick_h ! | 12:50 |
| snap-l | bah, bad timing on responses | 12:50 |
| rick_h | hah! "Goooooo cold!" | 12:51 |
| snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/27/open-metalcast-special-interview-episode-sentient-machine/ | 12:51 |
| rick_h | oh crap, touchpad on woot | 12:51 |
| rick_h | and well...with HP actually starting to OSS some stuff...damn temptations | 12:51 |
| brousch | i thought those were all gone | 12:51 |
| brousch | ouch. $219 | 12:52 |
| rick_h | yea | 12:52 |
| brousch | weren't they selling for $99? | 12:52 |
| rick_h | yea | 12:52 |
| brousch | is there a way to get a list of all packages installed on my computer, and turn that list into a script so that i could set up another computer the same way? | 13:30 |
| brousch | all repos too | 13:30 |
| brousch | like pip freeze for ubuntu | 13:31 |
| rick_h | yea, dpkg -l | 13:33 |
| rick_h | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html | 13:33 |
| tjagoda | Ohi | 13:34 |
| tjagoda | http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397380_298633056849285_250800231632568_835023_1997772699_n.jpg | 13:34 |
| brousch | that doesn't get the PPAs | 13:34 |
| brousch | but it's a good start | 13:34 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, but how many ppas do you have? | 13:35 |
| brousch | half a dozen | 13:35 |
| brousch | deadsnakes, chrome, handbrake, medibuntu, ubuntuone-extras, google music | 13:36 |
| tjagoda | What is the lpstat switch to show connection details for printers? | 13:41 |
| tjagoda | Does brousch live in cups? | 13:42 |
| brousch | heck no | 13:42 |
| tjagoda | Got it. | 13:43 |
| tjagoda | -s works. | 13:43 |
| tjagoda | Brousch uses windows print services? | 13:50 |
| brousch | my computers print to the printers | 13:50 |
| rick_h | snap-l: ever seen anything that looked like it'd be fun for a 2yr old to drum on? | 13:52 |
| rick_h | the boy is requesting B.B. King and likes to "bang bang drum!" | 13:52 |
| tjagoda | I like to pose questions and then immediately leave the room. | 13:53 |
| brousch | rick_h: my son liked those cheap plastic drum sets | 13:54 |
| brousch | they last about 6 months, but they're fun | 13:54 |
| brousch | tjagoda: i noticed | 13:54 |
| brousch | tjagoda: my computers print directly to our networked printers | 13:54 |
| brousch | rick_h: you can see he was getting a little big for them at age 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvgj40zQtEU | 13:56 |
| rick_h | hah! | 13:57 |
| rick_h | thinking of getting this: http://www.amazon.com/Remo-Rhythm-Club-Floor-Tom/dp/B0002EB5JO/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_img_c | 13:57 |
| tjagoda | brousch: I like that he rolls with the cymbals upside down | 13:58 |
| brousch | someone linked to one of those a few weeks ago | 13:58 |
| brousch | it looks like it has a real head, could be loud | 13:59 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, reviews are solid, might try that out and see where he goes with it | 13:59 |
| brousch | cheap | 13:59 |
| brousch | inexpensive i should say | 13:59 |
| rick_h | yea, exactly, first start to see | 13:59 |
| tjagoda | I also like that he rolls with the golf club | 14:00 |
| rick_h | they must have something at day care because he comes home talking about "bang bang drum!" | 14:00 |
| tjagoda | You're breeding him to be a Tiger Woods rockstar hybrid | 14:00 |
| brousch | tjagoda: he was always losing his drum sticks | 14:00 |
| tjagoda | lol | 14:00 |
| tjagoda | "Lose THIS." | 14:00 |
| rick_h | man, the abuse that drum set must have taken over time... | 14:01 |
| brousch | all of the toms broke off | 14:01 |
| tjagoda | He just destroys the cymbal over and over again, its awesome | 14:01 |
| brousch | he went through 2 or 3 of those cheap sets | 14:01 |
| brousch | fun times | 14:02 |
| tjagoda | better than destroying the pots/pans I imagine | 14:02 |
| brousch | now he has a real drum set and it's so loud we listen from a floor away | 14:02 |
| brousch | he started with pots and pans. used to drag them all out on the floor, line them up, and go to town with a wooden spoon | 14:04 |
| snap-l | rick_h: We got my little niece something similar | 14:08 |
| snap-l | let me find the link | 14:08 |
| snap-l | http://www.amazon.com/Remo-Percussion-Diameter-Mallet-Forest/dp/B0002F7KUG/ref=pd_sim_t_18 | 14:09 |
| snap-l | It's pretty solid, and comes with two mallets. | 14:09 |
| rick_h | snap-l: ah very cool | 14:09 |
| snap-l | The tone is a little "off", but it's a quality instrument | 14:10 |
| snap-l | at the least, it'll take some doing for him to undo it. | 14:10 |
| brousch | oh this is awesome http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/26/after-update-googles-music-manager-allows-download-of-all-your-music-straight-from-the-cloud/ | 14:12 |
| snap-l | brousch: Nice! | 14:12 |
| brousch | now i can pull my music out of my dropbox backup | 14:12 |
| snap-l | brousch: How is George doing with his drumming? | 14:13 |
| brousch | snap-l: very good | 14:13 |
| brousch | he has been addicted to the 20th century fox fanfare and first song of star wars for a few weeks now. he's really getting them down | 14:13 |
| snap-l | Hah | 14:14 |
| brousch | he brings his laptop downstairs, cranks it up, and plays along with youtube videos | 14:14 |
| snap-l | drum-corps. | 14:14 |
| snap-l | When he's old enough, and still interested, definitely check those out | 14:14 |
| brousch | also wii music has a dedicated drum set using the wii fit pad. it's pretty cool | 14:15 |
| snap-l | I never did those (was in marching band instead), but from what I've heard, they'll give you some wicked chops | 14:15 |
| snap-l | brousch: I managed to pass on Wii Music. Is it fun? | 14:15 |
| brousch | i'm aweful at it, but george and my wife do well | 14:15 |
| snap-l | Heh | 14:16 |
| brousch | awful | 14:16 |
| brousch | though really how bad i am can inspire awe | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Oh c'mon. :) | 14:16 |
| snap-l | You just need practice. ;) | 14:16 |
| brousch | you mean check out this thing? http://www.dci.org/corps/ | 14:16 |
| brousch | i'm not bad at the cowbell | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Something similar | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Not sure how much they have local | 14:17 |
| snap-l | and not necessarily the competitive aspect (that might kill off the enthusiasm) | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Wow, so my order already has a tracking number from NewEgg | 14:20 |
| snap-l | why again would I pay $2.99 for the expedited order packaging? | 14:20 |
| snap-l | Though I'm a little annoyed that UPS won't let me track it yet (even if just to say "hey, we just have the order" | 14:22 |
| nullspace | snap-l: might not have reached a UPS center yet | 14:30 |
| nullspace | I'm waiting on my replacement keyboard for my T60,.. apprently it's coming from china because it's taking 2-3weeks | 14:31 |
| nullspace | my e key plastic spring broken in half, ... eh 7+ years of abuse... | 14:32 |
| brousch | nullspace: you've been abusing E for 7 years? you must be a fun guy to hang out with | 14:36 |
| snap-l | ;) | 14:42 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Yeah, better to replace the whole keyboard than try to replace those plastic springs | 14:43 |
| snap-l | those are a PITA | 14:43 |
| nullspace | yum pita ..... | 14:49 |
| tjagoda | Makes you yearn for the 50's, those plastic springs. | 14:57 |
| tjagoda | A time where everything was made of solid metal, and then coated in asbestos. | 14:57 |
| tjagoda | Ahhhh... | 14:57 |
| brousch | then dipped in mercury before being painted with lead | 15:03 |
| tjagoda | And summarily used as water pipe. | 15:37 |
| nullspace | awesome, update decided to break xlock, sucktastic | 15:42 |
| brousch | judging by the name, that is a screensaver locker? | 15:46 |
| brousch | so i assume the update addresses the recent bug where you could unlock any linux computer with a certain key combo | 15:47 |
| tjagoda | lol | 15:48 |
| tjagoda | Yay security | 15:48 |
| tjagoda | Still better than old school windows passwords, where the cancel button is actually just a bypass button | 15:48 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Considering the update was to improve security for X, I'm not surprised. | 15:49 |
| tjagoda | Ubuntu is just painfully ripping bandaids off for you | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | Your welcome! | 15:54 |
| tjagoda | You're* | 15:54 |
| rick_h | wasn't that the problem? There was some quick/easy way to bypass the xlock screen? | 15:54 |
| nullspace | rick_h: I saw that but could never reproduce it | 16:06 |
| snap-l | http://trollitc.com/2012/01/the-five-foot-square/ | 17:21 |
| snap-l | And now you know. | 17:21 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/ozc8i/every_recruiter_wants_me_to_convert_my/ | 17:29 |
| greg-g | snap-l++ | 17:30 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: http://jobs.perl.org/job/15446 | 17:46 |
| Wolfger | nifty | 18:01 |
| jrwren | anyone know what kind of disk image testdrive creates? | 18:03 |
| brousch | i would assume virtualbox, but i am just assuming | 18:06 |
| snap-l | Gah, just realized that the connection I had my headphones wasn't tight. Was wondering why it sounded like everything was out of phase. | 18:25 |
| rick_h | snap-l: heh, I had that yesterday "damn I'm having to crank this volume up...wtf" | 18:25 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Well, even better: I just TOUCHED the back of this machine, and it corrected. | 18:26 |
| snap-l | I eagerly await whatever bad-ground is in store for me. ;) | 18:27 |
| tjagoda | Random disconnect? | 18:30 |
| tjagoda | Did anybody else get that? | 18:30 |
| rick_h | net split | 18:30 |
| brousch | geezumpete. no wonder people don't like to develop for android http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/say-goodbye-to-menu-button.html | 18:31 |
| tjagoda | Ahh | 18:31 |
| tjagoda | I suddenly became concerned for the health of my T1's. | 18:31 |
| snap-l | brousch: If you think that is bad, think of being an Apple Developer sometime. :) | 18:35 |
| brousch | they don't do things like remove the menu button | 18:35 |
| snap-l | No, they don't giv you a menu button to start. :) | 18:36 |
| brousch | i assume they give you standard way to access a "menu" | 18:36 |
| snap-l | No, they give you an action-bar-alike | 18:37 |
| snap-l | don't remember what it's called offhand | 18:37 |
| snap-l | I can see why they're getting away from menu thought | 18:37 |
| snap-l | It's a catch-all command | 18:38 |
| brousch | well that's fine. it's just that changing something as basic as the menu button is silly | 18:38 |
| tjagoda | ...like replacing menus with a HUD for searching commands? =( | 18:40 |
| brousch | indeed | 18:40 |
| tjagoda | Brousch wants his good ol' gnome | 18:40 |
| snap-l | I don't see the big deal, personally. | 18:40 |
| tjagoda | All these new-fangled user interfaces | 18:41 |
| brousch | i have it. it's called KDE with two panels | 18:41 |
| snap-l | menu feels very lazy to me | 18:41 |
| tjagoda | I will have to see how HUD works. | 18:41 |
| tjagoda | I'm very used to reading menus to figure out what I need to do | 18:41 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: ++ | 18:41 |
| tjagoda | just trying to formulate my needs into words could become tiresome | 18:41 |
| snap-l | WEll, I'm reserving judgement until I see it | 18:42 |
| brousch | these are the internets. you are free to judge with no knowledge | 18:42 |
| snap-l | I'm just waiting for the NEXTStep clock as Unity Lens. | 18:42 |
| The_Machine | anyone here happen to hear some jet planes or something flying overhead in the middle of the night? | 18:47 |
| The_Machine | around 1:30 AM or so | 18:47 |
| snap-l | It's just the black helicopters doing maneuvers over your house | 18:48 |
| snap-l | pay them no mind | 18:48 |
| brousch | The_Machine: it was obama arriving | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | oh it was? | 18:49 |
| brousch | i assume | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | scared the shit out of me | 18:49 |
| snap-l | and unless they came through the front door, I would not have heard them | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | they went for 30 mins | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | and were circuling | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | circling even | 18:49 |
| * The_Machine doesn't know why he's retarded | 18:49 | |
| brousch | usually it's genetic | 18:49 |
| snap-l | The_Machine: It's likely patrolling airspace | 18:49 |
| The_Machine | yea. wow. They were right over our house several times. | 18:50 |
| brousch | cripes: http://developer.android.com/design/style/writing.html | 18:51 |
| rick_h | snap-l: you're my resident gpg expert | 18:54 |
| rick_h | snap-l: I want to sign a .tar.gz and I want to tell it which key to use? | 18:55 |
| rick_h | I don't see any flag for saying "using this key" | 18:55 |
| snap-l | Do you only have one key in the keyring? | 18:55 |
| snap-l | usually if I have more than one, it'll prompt | 18:56 |
| rick_h | yea, I've got a sub key of my main that's my work email | 18:56 |
| rick_h | I want to sign it iwth my work email | 18:56 |
| rick_h | hmm, actually it's not a sub I don't think | 18:56 |
| snap-l | Huh, that's weird. Just signed a file, and it used the first one. | 18:57 |
| rick_h | but yea, not giving me the option | 18:57 |
| rick_h | right | 18:57 |
| snap-l | Man page says you can set it using --default-key or --local-user | 18:58 |
| snap-l | but that'll just tell it which to select as the default | 18:58 |
| snap-l | so it can be changed, but it looks like it's on a per-instance basis | 18:59 |
| snap-l | ie: if you have to change repeatedly, it'll be a PITA. | 18:59 |
| rick_h | ok, that'll work for now | 18:59 |
| jrwren | qcow2 is default testdrive disk image. | 19:07 |
| jrwren | there i go disagreeing with brousch again :p | 19:07 |
| brousch | see! | 19:09 |
| brousch | wow, never heard of that one | 19:10 |
| brousch | apparently i have not been freetarded enough with my virtual machines | 19:10 |
| jrwren | apparently not :) | 19:19 |
| jrwren | <3 kvm | 19:19 |
| Wolfger | http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/27/welcome-back-kotters-robert-hegyes-has-died/?hpt=hp_t3 | 19:32 |
| Wolfger | Part of me is waiting for him to show up tomorrow with a note saying "Please excuse his absence yesterday. He died. Signed, Epstein's Mother." | 19:39 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: heh | 19:57 |
| snap-l | Man, Sphix is making me feel like a bad developer | 19:58 |
| snap-l | using automodule to create documentation automatically, but what's coming back is pretty bad | 19:59 |
| snap-l | that's assuming anything comes back at all. | 19:59 |
| snap-l | That, and not using "if __name__ == '__main__'" for determining of something is called directly. | 19:59 |
| * snap-l hangs head in shame. | 20:00 | |
| rick_h | lol | 22:08 |
| rick_h | whip snap-l into shape | 22:08 |
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