[00:40] <snap-l> I'm OK with this no snow thing.
[00:44] <tjagoda> I hate you.
[00:44] <tjagoda> =(
[01:32] <snap-l> Had an awesome interview.
[01:33] <snap-l> Love it when I have an interview that makes me want to hang out with the band afterward.
[01:40] <rick_h> very cool man, congrats
[01:45] <tjagoda> I need to browse around launchpad in preparation for my 10 minute monday interview
[01:47] <tjagoda> I'm gonna namedrop rick_h all the time.
[01:48] <tjagoda> "We go clubbin' on the weekends, rick_h and I."
[01:49] <rick_h> tjagoda: heh, not sure that's the best bet yet.
[01:50] <tjagoda> I am kidding.
[01:50] <tjagoda> Except the part about clubbing.
[01:50] <tjagoda> Thats 300% truth.
[01:51] <rick_h> woot! do do do dum dum dum clubbing
[01:52] <tjagoda> http://r721.livejournal.com/10526.html
[01:52] <tjagoda> Holy christ
[02:29] <tjagoda> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
[02:29] <tjagoda> ^ That is good.
[02:29] <rick_h> yea, Gary is awesome
[02:30] <rick_h> man, having co-workers in Australia sucks. I've been working late/early every night since I got back from budapest
[02:30] <rick_h> don't they know it's dark outside?!
[02:30] <jjesse> wow is there something making ou have those weird hours?
[02:31] <rick_h> we started a group project in budapest we're trying to get landed still
[02:31] <rick_h> and it was kind of my baby so I'm the goto for "this is broken, how do we fix it?"
[02:31] <tjagoda> I wonder how often the support dudes travel
[02:32] <rick_h> right now travel is near nil
[02:32] <rick_h> unless you're the cloud folks really
[02:32] <tjagoda> Surges up around UDS times probably?
[02:33] <rick_h> it depends on where you're at. LP only sends one/two guys to UDS
[02:33] <rick_h> unity guys go more often to get feedback/discuss that, etc
[02:33] <tjagoda> Makes sense
[02:35] <tjagoda> I am not opposed to travel
[02:35] <tjagoda> But constant large trips would grate on me eventually I think
[02:35] <rick_h> yea, it's cool. But I don't think you'd see a ton of it personally
[02:35] <tjagoda> Like those roaming consultants who live out of suitcases 323 days out of the year
[02:35] <rick_h> after pycon I think I'll be grounded the rest of the year
[02:35] <tjagoda> I dont understand how thats possible
[02:35] <rick_h> heh, like jjesse :)
[02:37] <jjesse> hey i was only in a hotel 103 nights this year
[02:37] <_stink_> damn
[02:38] <jjesse> i think my high is 130?
[02:38] <jjesse> so its down
[02:38] <snap-l> tjagoda: Wow, that's disgusting
[02:39] <jjesse> 2 weeks in a row is pretty doable, the 3rd week is hard
[02:39] <jjesse> if i trail 4 weeks in a row I take my wife and sone w/ me
[02:42] <tjagoda> Our ERP consultant
[02:43] <tjagoda> Logged 300+ hotel days last year
[02:43] <tjagoda> I think it was in the 330's
[02:43] <jjesse> i have some co-workers like that
[02:43] <jjesse> months on the road
[02:46] <_stink_> god
[02:46] <_stink_> i hope they don't know anyone
[02:47] <jjesse> the head of our consultants joke that employees aren't allowed to either be married or marry :)
[02:47] <tjagoda> Its insane
[02:47] <tjagoda> you have to live in some kind of tiny condo or something
[02:47] <tjagoda> there is no way you can afford to have a lawn with 330 hotel days =P
[03:11] <greg-g> screw even renting, just stay in a hotel at "home" if you're only there 35 days/year
[03:11] <jjesse> exactly
[03:11] <greg-g> it'd be free with all your points, anyway
[03:11] <jjesse> as long as you gt  all the bonuses :)
[03:12] <tjagoda> I dont even comprehend that much travel logistically
[03:12] <tjagoda> Laundry would be painful
[03:13] <jjesse> not really most hotels will do it for you
[03:13] <jjesse> dry clean etc
[03:13] <tjagoda> This is news to me
[03:13] <jjesse> it will cost you
[03:13] <tjagoda> <--- obviously not a consultant
[03:13] <jjesse> but they will take care of it
[11:41] <snap-l> Ugh
[11:41] <snap-l> I mean, morning
[12:23] <rick_h> yea, TGIF
[12:25] <snap-l> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112336 <- Hmmmm...
[12:30] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[12:36] <snap-l> Ordered
[12:36] <rick_h> ooh, fancy case
[12:38] <snap-l> Yeah, need some better airflow for this machine
[12:38] <snap-l> Mobo is at 55c
[12:43] <brousch> mostly better today
[12:44] <rick_h> mostly better?
[12:44] <brousch> me
[12:44] <rick_h> ugh, lucky @!#$@
[12:44] <brousch> i think it's intestinal blockage. moving slowly
[12:44] <brousch> at least i can move today
[12:44] <rick_h> oh yummy, my yogurt tastes a ton better now thanks
[12:45] <brousch> had to cancel my presentation yesterday
[12:45] <brousch> yogurt. damn that's a good idea
[12:45] <brousch> i might run out and get some
[12:46] <rick_h> yogurt and a piece of fruit, standard 150cal breakfast wheeee
[12:46] <rick_h> though I think this weekend with the wife away the boy and I might go out and get some real breakfast out :)
[12:47] <brousch> denny's?
[12:47] <rick_h> naw, Mels, local place
[12:48] <Wolfger> Mel's Diner? Say "hi" to Alice, Flo, and Vera.
[12:48] <brousch> so you're gonna be skinnier than i am next time i see you?
[12:48] <rick_h> Wolfger: yea, thuogh I don't think Alice is there
[12:48] <Wolfger> also: Good morning
[12:49] <rick_h> brousch: 206 on weigh in day wed. Lowest in about a decade for me
[12:49] <Wolfger> also: today is going to be a Yakety Sax day, I can feel it...
[12:49] <rick_h> hah
[12:49] <Wolfger> rick_h: awesome!
[12:49] <brousch> wow, i was 205 this morning, and that's because i lost like 5lbs yesterday
[12:49] <rick_h> I think you're a little bit taller than me though
[12:49] <Wolfger> 205, 206... I need to get way back down there again
[12:50] <rick_h> but yea, by the time you see me next (release party maybe?) I'm hoping to be < 200 for the first time since college
[12:50]  * snap-l whistles
[12:50] <Wolfger> 205 is like my goal weight.
[12:50] <brousch> congrats
[12:50] <rick_h> if I can kill this damn cold and get back to the gym
[12:50] <rick_h> ugh...sucky week
[12:50] <snap-l> that's awesome, rick_h !
[12:50] <snap-l> bah, bad timing on responses
[12:51] <rick_h> hah! "Goooooo cold!"
[12:51] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/27/open-metalcast-special-interview-episode-sentient-machine/
[12:51] <rick_h> oh crap, touchpad on woot
[12:51] <rick_h> and well...with HP actually starting to OSS some stuff...damn temptations
[12:51] <brousch> i thought those were all gone
[12:52] <brousch> ouch. $219
[12:52] <rick_h> yea
[12:52] <brousch> weren't they selling for $99?
[12:52] <rick_h> yea
[13:30] <brousch> is there a way to get a list of all packages installed on my computer, and turn that list into a script so that i could set up another computer the same way?
[13:30] <brousch> all repos too
[13:31] <brousch> like pip freeze for ubuntu
[13:33] <rick_h> yea, dpkg -l
[13:33] <rick_h> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html
[13:34] <tjagoda> Ohi
[13:34] <tjagoda> http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397380_298633056849285_250800231632568_835023_1997772699_n.jpg
[13:34] <brousch> that doesn't get the PPAs
[13:34] <brousch> but it's a good start
[13:35] <rick_h> brousch: yea, but how many ppas do you have?
[13:35] <brousch> half a dozen
[13:36] <brousch> deadsnakes, chrome, handbrake, medibuntu, ubuntuone-extras, google music
[13:41] <tjagoda> What is the lpstat switch to show connection details for printers?
[13:42] <tjagoda> Does brousch live in cups?
[13:42] <brousch> heck no
[13:43] <tjagoda> Got it.
[13:43] <tjagoda> -s works.
[13:50] <tjagoda> Brousch uses windows print services?
[13:50] <brousch> my computers print to the printers
[13:52] <rick_h> snap-l: ever seen anything that looked like it'd be fun for a 2yr old to drum on?
[13:52] <rick_h> the boy is requesting B.B. King and likes to "bang bang drum!"
[13:53] <tjagoda> I like to pose questions and then immediately leave the room.
[13:54] <brousch> rick_h: my son liked those cheap plastic drum sets
[13:54] <brousch> they last about 6 months, but they're fun
[13:54] <brousch> tjagoda: i noticed
[13:54] <brousch> tjagoda: my computers print directly to our networked printers
[13:56] <brousch> rick_h: you can see he was getting a little big for them at age 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvgj40zQtEU
[13:57] <rick_h> hah!
[13:57] <rick_h> thinking of getting this: http://www.amazon.com/Remo-Rhythm-Club-Floor-Tom/dp/B0002EB5JO/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_img_c
[13:58] <tjagoda> brousch: I like that he rolls with the cymbals upside down
[13:58] <brousch> someone linked to one of those a few weeks ago
[13:59] <brousch> it looks like it has a real head, could be loud
[13:59] <rick_h> brousch: yea, reviews are solid, might try that out and see where he goes with it
[13:59] <brousch> cheap
[13:59] <brousch> inexpensive i should say
[13:59] <rick_h> yea, exactly, first start to see
[14:00] <tjagoda> I also like that he rolls with the golf club
[14:00] <rick_h> they must have something at day care because he comes home talking about "bang bang drum!"
[14:00] <tjagoda> You're breeding him to be a Tiger Woods rockstar hybrid
[14:00] <brousch> tjagoda: he was always losing his drum sticks
[14:00] <tjagoda> lol
[14:00] <tjagoda> "Lose THIS."
[14:01] <rick_h> man, the abuse that drum set must have taken over time...
[14:01] <brousch> all of the toms broke off
[14:01] <tjagoda> He just destroys the cymbal over and over again, its awesome
[14:01] <brousch> he went through 2 or 3 of those cheap sets
[14:02] <brousch> fun times
[14:02] <tjagoda> better than destroying the pots/pans I imagine
[14:02] <brousch> now he has a real drum set and it's so loud we listen from a floor away
[14:04] <brousch> he started with pots and pans. used to drag them all out on the floor, line them up, and go to town with a wooden spoon
[14:08] <snap-l> rick_h: We got my little niece something similar
[14:08] <snap-l> let me find the link
[14:09] <snap-l> http://www.amazon.com/Remo-Percussion-Diameter-Mallet-Forest/dp/B0002F7KUG/ref=pd_sim_t_18
[14:09] <snap-l> It's pretty solid, and comes with two mallets.
[14:09] <rick_h> snap-l: ah very cool
[14:10] <snap-l> The tone is a little "off", but it's a quality instrument
[14:10] <snap-l> at the least, it'll take some doing for him to undo it.
[14:12] <brousch> oh this is awesome http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/26/after-update-googles-music-manager-allows-download-of-all-your-music-straight-from-the-cloud/
[14:12] <snap-l> brousch: Nice!
[14:12] <brousch> now i can pull my music out of my dropbox backup
[14:13] <snap-l> brousch: How is George doing with his drumming?
[14:13] <brousch> snap-l: very good
[14:13] <brousch> he has been addicted to the 20th century fox fanfare and first song of star wars for a few weeks now. he's really getting them down
[14:14] <snap-l> Hah
[14:14] <brousch> he brings his laptop downstairs, cranks it up, and plays along with youtube videos
[14:14] <snap-l> drum-corps.
[14:14] <snap-l> When he's old enough, and still interested, definitely check those out
[14:15] <brousch> also wii music has a dedicated drum set using the wii fit pad. it's pretty cool
[14:15] <snap-l> I never did those (was in marching band instead), but from what I've heard, they'll give you some wicked chops
[14:15] <snap-l> brousch: I managed to pass on Wii Music. Is it fun?
[14:15] <brousch> i'm aweful at it, but george and my wife do well
[14:16] <snap-l> Heh
[14:16] <brousch> awful
[14:16] <brousch> though really how bad i am can inspire awe
[14:16] <snap-l> Oh c'mon. :)
[14:16] <snap-l> You just need practice. ;)
[14:16] <brousch> you mean check out this thing? http://www.dci.org/corps/
[14:17] <brousch> i'm not bad at the cowbell
[14:17] <snap-l> Something similar
[14:17] <snap-l> Not sure how much they have local
[14:17] <snap-l> and not necessarily the competitive aspect (that might kill off the enthusiasm)
[14:20] <snap-l> Wow, so my order already has a tracking number from NewEgg
[14:20] <snap-l> why again would I pay $2.99 for the expedited order packaging?
[14:22] <snap-l> Though I'm a little annoyed that UPS won't let me track it yet (even if just to say "hey, we just have the order"
[14:30] <nullspace> snap-l: might not have reached a UPS center yet
[14:31] <nullspace> I'm waiting on my replacement keyboard for my T60,.. apprently it's coming from china because it's taking 2-3weeks
[14:32] <nullspace> my e key plastic spring broken in half, ... eh 7+ years of abuse...
[14:36] <brousch> nullspace: you've been abusing E for 7 years? you must be a fun guy to hang out with
[14:42] <snap-l> ;)
[14:43] <snap-l> nullspace: Yeah, better to replace the whole keyboard than try to replace those plastic springs
[14:43] <snap-l> those are a PITA
[14:49] <nullspace> yum pita .....
[14:57] <tjagoda> Makes you yearn for the 50's, those plastic springs.
[14:57] <tjagoda> A time where everything was made of solid metal, and then coated in asbestos.
[14:57] <tjagoda> Ahhhh...
[15:03] <brousch> then dipped in mercury before being painted with lead
[15:37] <tjagoda> And summarily used as water pipe.
[15:42] <nullspace> awesome, update decided to break xlock, sucktastic
[15:46] <brousch> judging by the name, that is a screensaver locker?
[15:47] <brousch> so i assume the update addresses the recent bug where you could unlock any linux computer with a certain key combo
[15:48] <tjagoda> lol
[15:48] <tjagoda> Yay security
[15:48] <tjagoda> Still better than old school windows passwords, where the cancel button is actually just a bypass button
[15:49] <snap-l> nullspace: Considering the update was to improve security for X, I'm not surprised.
[15:54] <tjagoda> Ubuntu is just painfully ripping bandaids off for you
[15:54] <tjagoda> Your welcome!
[15:54] <tjagoda> You're*
[15:54] <rick_h> wasn't that the problem? There was some quick/easy way to bypass the xlock screen?
[16:06] <nullspace> rick_h: I saw that but could never reproduce it
[17:21] <snap-l> http://trollitc.com/2012/01/the-five-foot-square/
[17:21] <snap-l> And now you know.
[17:29] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/ozc8i/every_recruiter_wants_me_to_convert_my/
[17:30] <greg-g> snap-l++
[17:46] <snap-l> Wolfger: http://jobs.perl.org/job/15446
[18:01] <Wolfger> nifty
[18:03] <jrwren> anyone know what kind of disk image testdrive creates?
[18:06] <brousch> i would assume virtualbox, but i am just assuming
[18:25] <snap-l> Gah, just realized that the connection I had my headphones wasn't tight. Was wondering why it sounded like everything was out of phase.
[18:25] <rick_h> snap-l: heh, I had that yesterday "damn I'm having to crank this volume up...wtf"
[18:26] <snap-l> rick_h: Well, even better: I just TOUCHED the back of this machine, and it corrected.
[18:27] <snap-l> I eagerly await whatever bad-ground is in store for me. ;)
[18:30] <tjagoda> Random disconnect?
[18:30] <tjagoda> Did anybody else get that?
[18:30] <rick_h> net split
[18:31] <brousch> geezumpete. no wonder people don't like to develop for android http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/say-goodbye-to-menu-button.html
[18:31] <tjagoda> Ahh
[18:31] <tjagoda> I suddenly became concerned for the health of my T1's.
[18:35] <snap-l> brousch: If you think that is bad, think of being an Apple Developer sometime. :)
[18:35] <brousch> they don't do things like remove the menu button
[18:36] <snap-l> No, they don't giv you a menu button to start. :)
[18:36] <brousch> i assume they give you standard way to access a "menu"
[18:37] <snap-l> No, they give you an action-bar-alike
[18:37] <snap-l> don't remember what it's called offhand
[18:37] <snap-l> I can see why they're getting away from menu thought
[18:38] <snap-l> It's a catch-all command
[18:38] <brousch> well that's fine. it's just that changing something as basic as the menu button is silly
[18:40] <tjagoda> ...like replacing menus with a HUD for searching commands? =(
[18:40] <brousch> indeed
[18:40] <tjagoda> Brousch wants his good ol' gnome
[18:40] <snap-l> I don't see the big deal, personally.
[18:41] <tjagoda> All these new-fangled user interfaces
[18:41] <brousch> i have it. it's called KDE with two panels
[18:41] <snap-l> menu feels very lazy to me
[18:41] <tjagoda> I will have to see how HUD works.
[18:41] <tjagoda> I'm very used to reading menus to figure out what I need to do
[18:41] <snap-l> tjagoda: ++
[18:41] <tjagoda> just trying to formulate my needs into words could become tiresome
[18:42] <snap-l> WEll, I'm reserving judgement until I see it
[18:42] <brousch> these are the internets. you are free to judge with no knowledge
[18:42] <snap-l> I'm just waiting for the NEXTStep clock as Unity Lens.
[18:47] <The_Machine> anyone here happen to hear some jet planes or something flying overhead in the middle of the night?
[18:47] <The_Machine> around 1:30 AM or so
[18:48] <snap-l> It's just the black helicopters doing maneuvers over your house
[18:48] <snap-l> pay them no mind
[18:49] <brousch> The_Machine: it was obama arriving
[18:49] <The_Machine> oh it was?
[18:49] <brousch> i assume
[18:49] <The_Machine> scared the shit out of me
[18:49] <snap-l> and unless they came through the front door, I would not have heard them
[18:49] <The_Machine> they went for 30 mins
[18:49] <The_Machine> and were circuling
[18:49] <The_Machine> circling even
[18:49]  * The_Machine doesn't know why he's retarded
[18:49] <brousch> usually it's genetic
[18:49] <snap-l> The_Machine: It's likely patrolling airspace
[18:50] <The_Machine> yea.  wow.  They were right over our house several times.
[18:51] <brousch> cripes: http://developer.android.com/design/style/writing.html
[18:54] <rick_h> snap-l: you're my resident gpg expert
[18:55] <rick_h> snap-l: I want to sign a .tar.gz and I want to tell it which key to use?
[18:55] <rick_h> I don't see any flag for saying "using this key"
[18:55] <snap-l> Do you only have one key in the keyring?
[18:56] <snap-l> usually if I have more than one, it'll prompt
[18:56] <rick_h> yea, I've got a sub key of my main that's my work email
[18:56] <rick_h> I want to sign it iwth my work email
[18:56] <rick_h> hmm, actually it's not a sub I don't think
[18:57] <snap-l> Huh, that's weird. Just signed a file, and it used the first one.
[18:57] <rick_h> but yea, not giving me the option
[18:57] <rick_h> right
[18:58] <snap-l> Man page says you can set it using --default-key or --local-user
[18:58] <snap-l> but that'll just tell it which to select as the default
[18:59] <snap-l> so it can be changed, but it looks like it's on a per-instance basis
[18:59] <snap-l> ie: if you have to change repeatedly, it'll be a PITA.
[18:59] <rick_h> ok, that'll work for now
[19:07] <jrwren> qcow2 is default testdrive disk image.
[19:07] <jrwren> there i go disagreeing with brousch again :p
[19:09] <brousch> see!
[19:10] <brousch> wow, never heard of that one
[19:10] <brousch> apparently i have not been freetarded enough with my virtual machines
[19:19] <jrwren> apparently not :)
[19:19] <jrwren> <3 kvm
[19:32] <Wolfger> http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/27/welcome-back-kotters-robert-hegyes-has-died/?hpt=hp_t3
[19:39] <Wolfger> Part of me is waiting for him to show up tomorrow with a note saying "Please excuse his absence yesterday. He died. Signed, Epstein's Mother."
[19:57] <snap-l> Wolfger: heh
[19:58] <snap-l> Man, Sphix is making me feel like a bad developer
[19:59] <snap-l> using automodule to create documentation automatically, but what's coming back is pretty bad
[19:59] <snap-l> that's assuming anything comes back at all.
[19:59] <snap-l> That, and not using "if __name__ == '__main__'" for determining of something is called directly.
[20:00]  * snap-l hangs head in shame.
[22:08] <rick_h> lol
[22:08] <rick_h> whip snap-l into shape