[00:44] <hendrikus> acerimmer, Here ia >>> a new install 10.04 >>> And cheese is not stable!!!
[00:48] <acerimmer> hendrikus: what were your results??
[00:49] <hendrikus> acerimmer, one moment cheese take a video a moment later it make a video but there is no result a recording with no data
[00:50] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I will try vlc on your way
[00:54] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I think i will buy a Mac because linux is not do a simple video job like this
[00:54] <acerimmer> hendrikus: best of luck.
[00:54] <hendrikus> acerimmer, thanks
[00:58] <hendrikus> acerimmer,  No recording sound in VLC
[00:59] <acerimmer> hendrikus: sorry to hear it.
[01:02] <hendrikus> acerimmer, yes this is to bad for words -- because this is the 7 distro i installed and no one can make a proper webcam recording with sound .......
[01:02] <hendrikus> acerimmer, I also tried it on one of my other Laptops  /// also not working
[01:02] <acerimmer> hendrikus: b4 your drop dollars on a mac, might want to consider buying just a webcam...
[01:04] <hendrikus> acerimmer, how did you configure vlc to get sound recorded /dev/dsp is no working any more >>> how it looks your configureation?
[01:05] <acerimmer> hendrikus: i've got the standard installed webcam that came with my 2009 dell 1545 laptop.  I installed UStudio, added medibuntu and restricted-extras and never had a problem.
[01:06] <hendrikus> acerimmer, O.k i will take a lok to medibuntu
[01:06] <acerimmer> hendrikus: HOLD.  medibuntu is ADDED to UStudio - is NOT  a distro.
[01:07] <acerimmer> hendrikus: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[01:07] <hendrikus> acerimmer, yes a know it is a library but it is not in synaptic
[01:07] <acerimmer> hendrikus: right.  see http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[01:07] <hendrikus> jip thanks
[01:10] <hendrikus> acerimmer, o.ki installed the two packeds
[01:10] <holstein> cheese is not the tool i would use to make a video
[01:11] <holstein> hendrikus: how did pavucontrol work for you?
[01:11] <acerimmer> hendrikus: do you want to film with a video cameran and then edit the video
[01:11] <holstein> selecting the audio device with pulse?
[01:12] <holstein> thats the way i do it now... i just use a flipHD i got off craiglist for $30 ;)
[01:13] <hendrikus> acerimmer, Cheese is still having the same problem, I can make a creenshot to show you what is going on
[01:13] <acerimmer> holstein: nothing wrong with that method.  Especially since OpenShot can add some magic and audio and make it look like a 6 figure shoot.
[01:13] <holstein> hendrikus: cheese is a toy
[01:14] <hendrikus> acerimmer, no i wont film with the webcame >>>
[01:14] <acerimmer> hendrikus: see holstein's suggestion...
[01:14] <hendrikus> holstein, my sound is ok the video is not ok >>>
[01:15] <holstein> hendrikus: you *wont* film with the webcam? so you are goingn to do it with a video camera?
[01:15] <hendrikus> holstein, you mean the sound in vlc
[01:15] <holstein> 19:58 < hendrikus> acerimmer,  No recording sound in VLC
[01:15] <hendrikus> holstein, indeed cheese is a toy >>> But what is better?
[01:15] <holstein> ^^ thats wer i would be using pavucontrol to make sure i had the proper audio device
[01:15] <holstein> hendrikus: VLC
[01:15] <holstein> any of the editors that capture
[01:15] <holstein> something in the browser
[01:16] <acerimmer> hendrikus: #30 video camera...heck, even a smart phone camera.  edit it ubuntu and done...
[01:16] <hendrikus> holstein, Yes i dont have sound in vlc when i record
[01:16] <holstein> hendrikus: correct.. thats the case in which i would like for you to install the pavucontrol application
[01:16] <hendrikus> holstein, I will install it
[01:17] <holstein> from that application i would like for you to make srue the proper devcie is selected for VLC to record/capture audio
[01:17] <holstein> hendrikus: i would also try something in the browser
[01:17] <acerimmer> hendrikus: pavucontrol should already be there...
[01:17] <hendrikus> holstein, ok i first install  pavucontrol
[01:17] <holstein> hendrikus: i realize this is frustrating.. but keep in mind, you dont purchase a mac or windows machine and just know how to do this
[01:18] <holstein> you can use similar tools in the browser too like ustream
[01:18] <holstein> http://avidemux.berlios.de/ is one of my favorite tools
[01:18] <hendrikus> holstein, I got it  pavucontrol
[01:19] <holstein> ive used it since i was using windows
[01:19] <holstein> hendrikus: OK
[01:19] <holstein> hendrikus: try it out.. and see that VLC is using the device you expect it to
[01:19] <holstein> OR, try avidemux
[01:19] <holstein> or try ustream
[01:19] <hendrikus> holstein, Ok i will try both
[01:19] <holstein> or try an external camera.. assuming that 20:14 < hendrikus> acerimmer, no i wont film with the webcame >>> doesnt mean you wont to that
[01:20] <holstein> wont do that*
[01:20] <hendrikus> holstein, ye nex week i will buy a extern usb webcam --- but i am not shure if this will help
[01:21] <holstein> you can also try some of the actual channel for those video projects
[01:21] <holstein> its best to just pick one, and try and get used to it
[01:21] <holstein> openshot is nice, but i found kdenlive to be my fav.. though i tend to use whatever is the best tool for the job
[01:22] <hendrikus> holstein, I dont understand that >>>  you can also try some of the actual channel for those video projects
[01:22] <holstein> like /join #openshot "im trying to get audio to my video"
[01:23] <acerimmer> hendrikus: do you have any short videos on your computer right now?
[01:23] <acerimmer> got an idea....
[01:23] <holstein> theres a #kdenlive channel
[01:23] <hendrikus> holstein, openshot itried but is also not stable to make a webcame video with sound
[01:23] <holstein> hendrikus: what do you mean by stable?
[01:23] <holstein> did it crash?
[01:23] <holstein> when and why?
[01:23] <holstein> what was the terminal output?
[01:24] <hendrikus> holstein, Kdenlive is also not able to do the job I tied this all
[01:24] <holstein> did you try a current version? or version from PPA?
[01:24] <holstein> hendrikus: kden didnt do what?
[01:24] <holstein> audio?
[01:24] <holstein> did you ask the channel?
[01:24] <holstein> i found it very capable
[01:24] <hendrikus> holstein, Both Kdenlive and openshot are not able to make a webcam video with sound
[01:25] <hendrikus> holstein, now i will first install avidemux and ustream
[01:25] <holstein> hendrikus: nah.. i think you are having some configuration issues
[01:26] <holstein> if *all* these programs are not getting audio, there are 2 constants to look at
[01:26] <holstein> your audio hardware, and your audio hardware config
[01:26] <hendrikus> holstein, why you think so? This i s an brand new installation
[01:26] <holstein> do you know that your caputer device is working?
[01:27] <holstein> hendrikus: have you *ever* heard anything from the device you are trying to capture?
[01:27] <hendrikus> holstein, yes that is working the red lamp of the cam burnds and it make video in Goolge chat and in skype
[01:27] <holstein> hendrikus: sure... but does it "make" audio?
[01:27] <holstein> ever?
[01:28] <holstein> hendrikus: im talking about the audio captuer device
[01:28] <hendrikus> Yes also audio EVER sinds i am in skye and Google chat
[01:28] <hendrikus> I am a recording man I am always working with Sox >>> see my website
[01:29] <hendrikus> so i no how i can capture sound
[01:29] <hendrikus> but not how i can capture sound in VLC
[01:29] <holstein> hendrikus: right... i think you might be needing to tweak VLC a bit to captuer the audio
[01:29] <holstein> maybe you are not grabbing the correct audio device
[01:30] <hendrikus> capture sound in Sox >>> rec file.wav
[01:30] <holstein> i would refer to the applications that are working correctly
[01:30] <holstein> hendrikus: sure.. and thats what VLC, or any of these devices need to be configured to use as well
[01:30] <holstein> any of these programs*
[01:31] <acerimmer> holstein: got a quick/easy test for him to try...put this in terminal:  cd  && mplayer '/usr/share/example-content/Ubuntu_Free_Culture_Showcase/UbuntuIsHumanity.ogv'
[01:31] <hendrikus> yes i have to tweak vlc but what do i have to place in for the capture audio device /dev/dsp is not working anymore what
[01:32] <holstein> try http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/webcam-linux/ ... GUVCviewer
[01:32] <holstein> hendrikus: place in the audio device the same that is working and capturing for skype, and the others
[01:33] <holstein> i would choose one, and work with it til you get the audio working
[01:35] <hendrikus> holstein,  what did you put in by audio capture? alsa hw 0.0 ore something???
[01:40] <holstein> hendrikus: i put in what works for my hardware, but i use JACK, so im not going to be much help
[01:41] <holstein> hendrikus: i would literally fire up skype, since that working.. see what its using for the device, ad then put that in whichever of the applications youa re most comfortable with
[01:41] <hendrikus> holstein, o.k understand
[01:41] <hendrikus> yes thats what i do know
[01:41] <holstein> sometimes you can search around and find those config lines relating to your particular hardware
[01:42] <holstein> you can look in aplay -l and get an idea of what you are searching for
[01:42] <holstein> or arecord -l in this case i suppose
[01:43] <hendrikus> holstein, sorry but you don can see the device in skype not more then that it go to pulsaudio but not how
[01:44] <holstein> hendrikus: ?
[01:45] <holstein> skype is not allowing you to see the device?
[01:45] <holstein> hendrikus: try the other applications that are working for you
[01:45] <holstein> what is sox point at?
[01:45] <hendrikus> sox I dont no to alsa
[01:46] <holstein> hendrikus: what would you like to use?
[01:46] <holstein> ill set that up here and tell you how i did it...
[01:47] <holstein> or try at least
[01:50] <holstein> first thing im doing is opening pavucontrol to see if my mic is working
[01:50] <holstein> and its not
[01:50] <hendrikus> holstein,  that would be great to get that info!
[01:50] <holstein> hendrikus: is your mic working in pavucontrol?
[01:50] <hendrikus> YES and my line in also
[01:51] <holstein> the little meter moves?
[01:51] <hendrikus> holstein, I like to use Vlc
[01:51] <holstein> if that meter is moving, then all you need to do is tell VLC, or whatever to just use it
[01:51] <hendrikus> Yes they move
[01:52] <holstein> i need to get some hardware that works...
[01:52] <hendrikus> Yes but how do i tell vlc that???
[01:52] <holstein> hendrikus: right... lemme get some hardware, and i'll help you out further
[01:53] <holstein> at least with what it takes to make my hardware work...
[01:54] <acerimmer> hendrikus: alsamixer will display all your sound hardware.  f6 in that menu will take you to your soundcard
[01:54] <hendrikus> acerimmer, o.k take a look
[01:55] <hendrikus> acerimmer, 0 HDA intel
[01:56] <hendrikus> acerimmer, is that what i have to put in vlc to capture from?
[01:56] <acerimmer> wait one
[01:56] <holstein> yeah, or just try it
[01:56] <acerimmer> :~
[01:57] <holstein> just try whatever til you hear something
[01:57] <holstein> thats what im about to do
[01:57] <hendrikus> ac no thats not corrct 0 HDA intel
[01:59] <holstein> just keep trying them
[01:59] <holstein> you'll not break anything... its just at some point the mic will work
[02:00] <hendrikus> holstein, It try to open somthing in alsa   >>> alsa://    < but i don't know what
[02:00] <holstein> hendrikus: it will only do what you tell it to do
[02:01] <holstein> hang on.. i gotta install pulse.. you have pulse correct hendrikus ?
[02:03] <acerimmer> hendrikus: copy and paste in terminal  http://paste.ubuntu.com/818365/
[02:04] <hendrikus> holstein, http://pctonic.net/use-vlc-as-a-screen-recording-tool
[02:04] <hendrikus> yes pulse is working
[02:04] <holstein> hendrikus: im just trying to get as close to the same software case as you have.. i was asking if you were *using* pulse
[02:04] <holstein> by all means, if that guide helps you , use it
[02:05] <holstein> i wouldnt expect the windows audio hardware setting to help you in your case though
[02:05] <hendrikus> acerimmer, cd  && mplayer '/usr/share/example-content/Ubuntu_Free_Culture_Showcase/UbuntuIsHumanity.ogv'
[02:05] <hendrikus>  That is working sound and video
[02:05] <holstein> and, i didnt think you were trying to captuer the screen...
[02:06] <hendrikus> holstein, yes i am using pulse audio
[02:07] <hendrikus> holstein, No that quide helps me not it say there is no sound capture posible in vlc
[02:07] <holstein> hendrikus: thats for deskto capture.. in windows
[02:07] <holstein> desktop*
[02:08] <holstein> i assure you that if i can find a device around here runing ubuntu and pulse and VLC, i will get it working
[02:09] <hendrikus> holstein, no i dont wont to record the screen it is only a tutorial wich tells you how to configure vlc and it says there is no way to capture sound in vlc for tha tyou need a separate recorder
[02:09] <holstein> hendrikus: fine.. you want to move on then?
[02:09] <holstein> you want to try other software?
[02:09] <hendrikus> jip
[02:09] <holstein> there are audio capture settings in VLC
[02:09] <holstein> that you have seen, and tried to use.. but you just tell me what you want to use
[02:10] <hendrikus> Yes i now but waht do i have to fill in
[02:10] <holstein> hendrikus: litereally whatever it takes for your hardware
[02:11] <holstein> http://stream-recorder.com/forum/record-audio-freeware-vlc-player-ubuntu-9-t5578.html
[02:11] <hendrikus> can i make a video capture with avidemux
[02:13] <holstein> hendrikus: try it
[02:13] <holstein> hendrikus: did you try gcvuview?
[02:14] <holstein> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/guvcview
[02:14] <hendrikus> holstein,  it is not in ubuntu  gcvuview
[02:14] <holstein> hendrikus: correct
[02:15] <holstein> see either that link ^^ of the one from earlier
[02:15] <holstein> i think that will work just like cheese, except it is a better tool
[02:15] <holstein> you see the link to the deb?
[02:15] <astraljava> HA! Figured it out, finally.
[02:16] <astraljava> hendrikus: Have you seen this page, yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332107
[02:17] <astraljava> Way to find out the name of the recording device. Then, you open vlc normally, from the menu, select Open Capture Device... and set video device as /dev/video0 and audio device according to that page instructions.
[02:17] <hendrikus> holstein,   gcvuview? will not work libasound2 (>> 1.0.24.1) is not correct
[02:18] <holstein> hendrikus: OK.. so try looking at the link astraljava just gave about choosing the proper device in VLC
[02:18] <holstein> it envolves running arecord -l in the terminal like i suggested
[02:19] <astraljava> Oh, sorry. I didn't have time to follow all the conversation. :)
[02:19] <hendrikus> You see I have to buy a Macintosch there all this simple thing are working out of the box >>> I have spent more then two weeks in hourse and installing lInux but nothing bring me a simple toll that works and make a video with sound from the webcam
[02:20] <holstein> hendrikus: do what you like.. there are learning curves to everything.. cheese "just works" for me
[02:20] <holstein> hendrikus: i feel like you get the proper settings from arecord -l and put then in VLC and you are good to go
[02:20] <holstein> hendrikus: i thought you had checked there earlier
[02:21] <holstein> hendrikus: i actually use these tools on MAC as well
[02:22] <holstein> VLC is the tool i prefer to use for capture on mac, for a lot fo the same reason i dont like to use cheese... i consider a lot of the tools that "just work" to be toys
[02:22] <holstein> does that mean it wont work for you?
[02:22] <holstein> no... but i do feel like you are working really hard, and unecessarily
[02:23] <holstein> if you can chose a distro, and a pacakge, and a hardware base to "live in" for a bit
[02:23] <holstein> and take some time to get used to it
[02:24] <acerimmer> hendrikus: do you have an external mic you could try?  I've got a USB mic - plug it in, select it via sound preferences and done.  Just a thought.
[02:24] <holstein> using an exteranl mic is a great way to boost the quality too
[02:25] <holstein> you'll still need to point whatever application you end up going with to it
[02:25] <holstein> i dont find VLC simple, easy, or intuitive
[02:25] <holstein> i find it professional, configurable, and free
[02:25] <acerimmer> holstein: i don't think ANYONE finds it simple, easy or intuitive.
[02:25] <holstein> acerimmer: hehe
[02:25] <hendrikus> holstein, >>> arecord -l
[02:25] <hendrikus> **** Lijst van CAPTURE hardware-apparaten ****
[02:25] <hendrikus> kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[02:25] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaten: 0/1
[02:25] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[02:25] <hendrikus> kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 2: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[02:25] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaten: 1/1
[02:26] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[02:26] <hendrikus> kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
[02:26] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaten: 1/1
[02:26] <hendrikus>   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[02:26] <holstein> hendrikus: you can reference http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332107 to see what to do with that information
[02:26] <holstein> hendrikus: you can also use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:27] <holstein> hendrikus: what i see from that is.. you should use either 0:1 or 1:1
[02:27] <hendrikus> holstein, Yes I have external mic in to the laptop >>> that is not  to point
[02:27] <holstein> i would have already tried just *every* combination
[02:28] <astraljava> hendrikus: This is what works for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/818396/
[02:28] <holstein> entering "default" should work
[02:29] <astraljava> hendrikus: So just use ":input-slave=alsa://plughw:NAME_OF_SOUND_DEVICE"
[02:30] <astraljava> hendrikus: As you can see from the pastebin entry, for me it was SB, the first entry after the card number, before the longer name in brackets.
[02:32] <hendrikus> astraljava, VLC kon de MRL 'alsa://plughw:SB' niet openen. It say can not open device SB
[02:33] <hendrikus> astraljava, But what is th name of my device ?
[02:33] <holstein> hendrikus: what is SB?
[02:33] <astraljava> hendrikus: You have to find your card name, it's not the same as mine.
[02:33] <hendrikus> where ca i find that name
[02:33] <astraljava> hendrikus: Seems to be Intel for you.
[02:33] <acerimmer> paste??
[02:33] <astraljava> hendrikus: From the output of `arecord -l`.
[02:34] <hendrikus> no not intel
[02:34] <holstein> hendrikus: yeah, its intel
[02:34] <hendrikus> >> arecord -l
 **** Lijst van CAPTURE hardware-apparaten ****
 kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
   Sub-apparaten: 0/1
   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
 kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 2: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
   Sub-apparaten: 1/1
   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[02:34] <astraljava> No, it's Intel.
 kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
   Sub-apparaten: 1/1
   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[02:34] <holstein> hendrikus: if you dont mind, use a pastebin for that
[02:34] <hendrikus> yes
[02:35] <astraljava> hendrikus: Look, I told you, the first thing after the card number, before the longer name in brackets.
[02:35] <holstein> hendrikus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/818402/
[02:36] <acerimmer> *really* looking to seeing a pastebin hendrickus...
[02:36] <hendrikus> holstein,  but i dont see what you mean
[02:37] <holstein> hendrikus: you should use a pastebin so you dont flood the channel
[02:37] <hendrikus> where do yo see the name off my soundcard device
[02:37] <acerimmer> ...and so we can see
[02:37] <holstein> hendrikus: i see it from the output of that command... arecord -l
[02:37] <holstein> its intel
[02:37] <hendrikus> yes i will use past the bin
[02:37] <holstein> hendrikus: you dont need to paste that now..
[02:38] <holstein> you can just look and see what you need.. its intel
[02:38] <hendrikus> yes i tried intel tried Intel but both not working
[02:38] <holstein> hendrikus: right... but you know what you need to do now
[02:40] <astraljava> hendrikus: Just out of curiosity, _how_ did you try it? Did you type the command like I showed you? Can you pastebin the output of that, please?
[02:40] <holstein> this is what worked for me...
[02:40] <holstein> Intel
[02:40] <holstein> with a capital I
[02:40] <acerimmer> holstein: other than turining of the webcam via vlc, what does this do?  vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 :input-slave=alsa://plughw:Intel
[02:41] <holstein> yup.. thats what worked for me
[02:44] <hendrikus> holstein, I have to stop everything breaks down there was a total crash on my system
[02:45] <holstein> hendrikus: OK
[02:45] <holstein> this worked for me
[02:45] <holstein> Intel
[02:45] <holstein> with a capital I
[02:46] <holstein> in a terminal ... vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 :input-slave=alsa://plughw:Intel
[02:46] <hendrikus> holstein,  thanks for taking time to hel me forwards i am tiered have to sleep >>> Ol that line i missed iwill tried it one more time
[02:47] <acerimmer> holstein: my webcam popped right up in vlc @ that command...
[02:47] <holstein> yup... webcam and for me, i start to get horrible feedback from the mic working
[02:49] <hendrikus> holstein,  O.k this give no error aldo i dont have sound >>> I will take a look
[02:49] <holstein> hendrikus: nah.. you have sound going to the video i berty
[02:49] <holstein> bet*
[02:50] <holstein> im not sure what you are expeting from "sound"
[02:50] <astraljava> holstein: You berty? :D
[02:50] <holstein> hehe
[02:51] <acerimmer> hendrikus: best audio is going to be from a mic which is NOT mounted on your laptop.  I used my skype headset and that is WAY better than the laptop mic.  Just sayin...
[02:52] <hendrikus> acerimmer, IT WORKS!!!
[02:52] <hendrikus> holstein, IT WORKS!!!
[02:52]  * astraljava taps foot
[02:52] <holstein> hendrikus: yup... its just a matter of prepoer configuration, and know how to test.. and not giving up and jumping around so much
[02:52] <acerimmer> hendrikus: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/success%20kid.jpg
[02:53] <hendrikus> holstein, I use sE Microphones true a Korg Mr 1000 I bit micrphone reamps
[02:53] <holstein> and you are getting in with the internal soundcard?
[02:54] <hendrikus> holstein,  yes on this laptop not on my other macines there I use RME
[02:55] <hendrikus> acerimmer, THANKS FOR THE KIDS!!! you di dit man!!!
[02:55] <acerimmer> hendrikus: WRITE DOWN the settings!  I've learned thru hard experience to keep my computer install/delete/configure records in a spreadsheet via dropbox.
[02:56] <astraljava> Nah, man. Learn how to find out that stuff. That's the proper way.
[02:56] <acerimmer> peace out y
[02:56] <hendrikus> acerimmer, yes I hav everything on my website >>> and in Google Docs >>> But for shure i will place this onle liner with both off your name on the bet place i can find
[02:57] <acerimmer> y'all.
[03:00] <holstein> hendrikus: consider a http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx ..its a cheap way to get a cleaner way in the machine
[03:00] <holstein> the RME stuff is usually well supported in linux
[03:02] <hendrikus> acmeinc, I have to sleep it to late here The Netherlands
[03:02] <hendrikus> holstein, also thanks for helping me
[03:02] <holstein> hendrikus: sure
[03:03] <hendrikus> holstein, Yes thats why i use RME for many years
[03:03] <holstein> for linux support?
[03:03] <hendrikus> holstein, Yes PCI
[03:03] <holstein> interesting
[03:04] <hendrikus> holstein,  Alsa has a special sound device for the pci card of RME works out of the box
[03:04] <holstein> yup... its on my radar
[03:04] <hendrikus> holstein, But only for the pci cards
[03:04] <holstein> i use firewire right now
[03:05] <holstein> the PCI express cards might work as well
[03:05] <hendrikus> holstein, YES
[03:05] <holstein> or so i was told
[03:05] <hendrikus> pci works in linux out of the box
[03:06] <holstein> my firewire does now too
[03:06] <hendrikus> holstein, I am not familair with firewire
[03:08] <hendrikus> holstein, http://hendrikusgodvliet.appspot.com/korg.mr1000.html
[03:08] <holstein> so you are using that for the preamp?
[03:10] <hendrikus> holstein, yes in this situation at this moment
[03:10] <holstein> good to know
[03:10] <hendrikus> holstein, i have more stuff
[03:10] <holstein> i generally avoid korg unless i need a synth
[03:12] <hendrikus> holstein, HO HO this is the best there is >>> Google on this machine Korg Mr 1000 >>> Not only the best mobile sample recording but also one of the best master recorders at the moment It is DSD 5.6 biljoen samples / sec
[03:13] <holstein> eh
[03:13] <holstein> i would go for a zoom H4 or H2
[03:13] <holstein> but i can just take my studio rig with a laptop around
[03:13] <hendrikus> holstein,  U never heard  so a clear recording as with htis Korg mr 1000
[03:14] <holstein> hendrikus: glad you are enjoying it
[03:14] <holstein> i *have* heard a zoom H4, and i think the pres are very nice
[03:14] <holstein> and the included mics are great
[03:14] <holstein> and its a linux friendly sound card via USB
[03:14] <hendrikus> holstein, Thanks >>> Soom h4 you dont can compaire that with the Korg it cost at least 5 time more
[03:15] <holstein> correct
[03:16] <holstein> and what i am saying is, i consider the zoom to be more bang for the buck
[03:16] <hendrikus> holstein,  i have a tascam like the zoomh4 but that is not what the Korg Mr 1000 and the 2000 are made for.
[03:16] <holstein> cool
[03:16] <holstein> again, im glad you like it
[03:17] <holstein> and im not really in the market for standalones like that right now
[03:17] <holstein> i like the ones that can doulble as interfaces
[03:17] <hendrikus> holstein,  NOW I have to SLEEEEEPPPP ...Thanks and till another time
[03:17] <holstein> hendrikus: o/
[03:17] <hendrikus> ho see you
[18:09] <Guest23311> is the dvd is a 'livecd' ?
[18:09] <Guest23311> ...
[18:09] <Guest23311> sry didn't read the message
[22:25] <fanat> åñòü ðóññêèå?
[22:25] <fanat> êòî ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü?
[22:25] <fanat> guys!?
[22:26] <acerimmer> english plz
[22:26] <fanat> hi man
[22:27] <fanat> i have a problem
[22:27] <fanat> do you help me?
[22:28] <fanat> Guys!
[22:28] <fanat> help me please!
[22:30] <astraljava> fanat: We won't be able to help you unless you present your problem.
[22:31] <acerimmer> !ask|fanat
[22:31] <fanat> i install Ubuntu Studio on my notebook. After installation system reboot. When i power on my notebook monitor is black
[22:32] <acerimmer> fanat: notebook brand?  make mode?
[22:32] <fanat> Lenovo ThinkPad
[22:33] <fanat> R500
[22:34] <acerimmer> fanat: is your laptop ubuntu only or dual boot?
[22:35] <fanat> i use Windows XP, then i use unet program to install ubuntu studio ISO on windows platform
[22:37] <fanat> my english very bad... =(
[22:37] <acerimmer> fanat: your english is OK for  this discussion.
[22:39] <fanat> what can i do? i want use ubuntu studio.. but monitor black
[22:39] <acerimmer> fanat: did you md5sum check your ubuntu iso download??
[22:40] <acerimmer> fanat: and is this the first installation of ubuntu on your laptop?
[22:40] <acerimmer> !checksum|fanat
[22:41] <fanat> this is not first installation of ubuntu
[22:42] <fanat> i install ubuntu 10.x several moth ago
[22:44] <fanat> i download ISO on official site with torrent
[22:44] <fanat> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
[22:44] <fanat> here
[22:44] <acerimmer> fanat: did you checksum test before you installed?
[22:44] <fanat> no
[22:46] <acerimmer> Do so now so we can eliminate one potential cause of problems...
[22:46] <fanat> what problems?
[22:47] <acerimmer> bad iso means ubuntu doesn't act right - like not booting...
[22:48] <fanat> and...
[22:49] <fanat> i whrite ISO inside files on DVD, boot from CD and disk not boot. I mean load Win XP
[22:50] <acerimmer> fanat: also you installed 11.10?  Not adviseable IMO.  Long Term Support (LTS) ubuntu is more heavily test and better maintained than interim releases.  Most recent LTS was 10.04.  Next one is 12.04.  STRONGLY recommend you install 10.04.
[22:52] <fanat> i installed this  ubuntustudio-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[22:52] <acerimmer> fanat: I see the installation method you used.  Our systems are similar specifications and age.  I've got a 2009 Dell 1545 laptop with Win7, Ubuntu Studio 10.04, OSX Snow Leopard.  I had ubuntu problems every 6 months because I would ALWAYS update.  I switched to LTS updates only - no more problems.
[22:52] <acerimmer> fanat: you STILL need to checksum.  A bad iso can cause your US to act strange.
[22:54] <acerimmer> fanat: my suggestion: install Ubuntu 10.04 then upgrade that to UStudio.
[22:55] <fanat> ok, i can try do this. Thank you, man!
[22:56] <acerimmer> fanat: stick with LTS - life will be less stressful.
[22:56] <fanat> what is LTS?
[22:56] <acerimmer> !lts|fanat
[22:57] <fanat> aa... ok ok. I use google =)
[23:16] <acerimmer> mods online??
[23:16] <fanat> i see grub
[23:17] <acerimmer> fanat: this is good...
[23:17] <fanat> i can chek all file system
[23:17] <fanat> but i choose normal loading..
[23:18] <acerimmer> fanat: let it check - it's quick
[23:19] <fanat> i feel.. system is installed.. but.. somethink wrong
[23:19] <fanat> man!
[23:19] <acerimmer> fanat: ...more info
[23:19] <fanat> GNU GRUB 1.99
[23:19] <fanat> 4 chose
[23:19] <holstein> i would check the hard drive, and the memory
[23:19] <fanat> i see this:
[23:20] <fanat> 1. ubuntu linux 3.0.0-15-generic
[23:20] <acerimmer> !paste|fanat
[23:20] <holstein> fanat: yes, that the grub list
[23:20] <fanat> 2. ubuntu linux 3.0.0-15-generic (.. mode)
[23:21] <fanat> memtest and memtest serial console 115200
[23:21] <holstein> fanat: yup... thats the grub list.. it'll have 2 enteries per kernel...
[23:21] <fanat> what i do?
[23:21] <holstein> fanat: what i would do, is choose the first entry and boot it
[23:22]  * holstein high-fives acerimmer !
[23:22] <holstein> acerimmer: thanks for being so active in here
[23:22] <acerimmer> me blush
[23:22] <holstein> ;)
[23:23] <fanat> my monitor is black and all... =(
[23:23] <holstein> fanat: right... could be graphics card related
[23:23] <acerimmer> holstein: not a problem.  UStudio has provided a fine outlet for my suppressed creative urges...
[23:23] <holstein> i would try and boot a live CD to the desktop
[23:23] <holstein> i would try and test the hard drive from a live CD
[23:23] <holstein> i would try and test the memory
[23:24] <holstein> i would want to remove as many variables from the machine as possible, and make sure all the hardware if functioning properaly
[23:24] <holstein> properly*
[23:24] <holstein> and i would want to make sure the downloaded CD image downloaded correctly, and that the installation media is created successfully
[23:25] <holstein> i would try forcing vesa
[23:25] <holstein> fanat: i would hit control+F1, and see if i could get to a console
[23:25] <holstein> you can lots of troubleshooting options, its really up to you where you want to start
[23:26] <fanat> my cd-rom is not open =)
[23:26] <fanat> i can't open cd-rom! )
[23:27] <fanat> only preboot OS
[23:27] <fanat> so...
[23:27] <holstein> bios?
[23:27] <fanat> F1 is work
[23:27] <fanat> yes
[23:28] <fanat> i see grub list
[23:28] <holstein> right.. thats where you choose the kernel and boot the machine
[23:28] <holstein> if it doesnt boot, then you can try control+atl+F1
[23:28] <holstein> fanat: i forgot the alt last time... sorry
[23:28] <holstein> anyways.. you are in good hands with acerimmer
[23:28]  * holstein gotta run...
[23:29] <fanat> acerimmer!
[23:29] <acerimmer> fanat: hey
[23:30] <fanat> why the GRUB list i see correct, but when system starting - not?
[23:30] <fanat> i try fsck (check all file system)
[23:30] <acerimmer> fanat: boot 10.04 from DVD/CDROM??
[23:31] <fanat> no
[23:31] <fanat> i try reanimation my Ubuntu Studio 11.10
[23:34] <fanat> what is this? /dev/sda1: 50559/9641984 files (0.1% non-contiguous), 843139/38566400 blocks [   106.471321] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remoutn-ro
[23:34] <acerimmer> fanat: installing ubuntu is "easy" so long as you follow the rules, IMHO.
[23:34] <acerimmer> !paste|fanat
[23:34] <acerimmer> fanat: that would be the outcput of your file system check - successful
[23:37] <fanat> load graphics devise FAIL
[23:37] <acerimmer> fanat: whatever's wrong here is not necessarily Ubuntu Studio specific.  More likely, it's at the grub installation level.  That said, you'll find LOTS more people over on #ubuntu.  OR we can try - but I'll need your cooperation for my process.  The first thing I ALWAYS check on a downloaded iso, ESPECIALLY via torrent is the md5 check...
[23:37] <fanat> ok
[23:37] <fanat> let's try
[23:38] <acerimmer> I'll send you the md5sum check link.  Follow the directions there and paste the output.
[23:38] <acerimmer> !md5sum
[23:38] <acerimmer> !paste
[23:49] <fanat> i can not check ISO image because he was on hard drive previous install Ubuntu. In time install Ubuntu convert file system. I have only inside files in DVD
[23:51] <acerimmer> fanat: so you SAVED US to the DVD but you can't boot from that disk?
[23:52] <fanat> yes
[23:52] <acerimmer> fanat: how did you boot the alternate install disk?
[23:54] <fanat> unetbootin
[23:55] <fanat> i use unetbootin for Windows
[23:56] <acerimmer> fanat: right.  I'm trying to quickly learn how that works right now...
[23:56] <acerimmer> fanat: do you have a USB drive??
[23:57] <fanat> i not have
[23:57] <fanat> just Notebook (with Ubuntu Studio), netbook - this PC, and DVD-RW
[23:58] <acerimmer> fanat: to be fair to you, I suggest you take your question over to #ubuntu.  Never used unetbootin.