[00:15] <m1chael> hello. i am trying to revive an old computer with xubuntu. i'm using xubuntu live at the moment, but the mouse moves all by itself (up and to the left).. i tried different mice, on different surfaces, but the same problem exists.. any ideas on this?
[00:17] <fclt> hello
[00:18] <fclt> ok so I managed to install xubuntu oneiric on my hd
[00:18] <fclt> and when I reboot
[00:18] <fclt> it won-t boot...
[00:18] <fclt> just a blinking white cursor on a black screen
[00:19] <GridCube> something went wrong with your grub iinstallation
[00:23] <fclt> yeah GridCube I think it-s that too
[00:23] <fclt> bcause I have no grub2 menu to choose from
[00:23] <GridCube> yes
[00:23] <fclt> how can I solve this_ >`
[00:24] <GridCube> you need to repeat the install and make sure grub gets installed
[00:24] <fclt> but, GridCube I repeated a thousand time
[00:24] <fclt> times{
[00:24] <GridCube> you can also use the supergrub disk to avoid this
[00:25] <fclt> xubuntu lucid, oneiric, fedora 16...
[00:25] <GridCube> fclt, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[00:26] <fclt> GridCube, Super Grub2 Disk 1.99 beta 1 released
[00:26] <fclt> is this it_
[00:27] <GridCube> fclt, its a 1.44 image :P you can easily try it
[00:28] <GridCube> theres a livecd too, that does many more things
[00:29] <GridCube> you should read that page before doing anything tho, to understand what you are doing
[00:31] <fclt> GridCube, how do I mount this image to boot_ I-ll not waste a dvd/r to 1.99mb
[00:31] <GridCube> you could create a live usb with it
[00:31] <GridCube> using unetbootin
[00:32] <GridCube> but then again, if you get your system back i would burn a dvd with it
[00:32] <fclt> hum...
[00:33] <fclt> you seem convincing
[00:33] <fclt> :)
[00:33] <fclt> i-ll just burn a dvd
[00:33] <fclt> thks man!
[00:37] <spaceneedle> How do I put icon for Chromium browser on the desktop. How do I do this? I'm using Xubuntu 10.04lts.
[00:46] <fclt> GridCube, hi again :D
[00:46] <fclt> ok
[00:46] <fclt> I ran super grup
[00:47] <GridCube> ok
[00:47] <fclt> and i'm on hd oneiric
[00:47] <GridCube> :D thats good then
[00:47] <GridCube> now you need to manually install grub
[00:47] <fclt> I must rebuild grub2.cfg ?
[00:47] <GridCube> !grub
[00:48] <GridCube> fclt, follow the restoregrub manual :)
[00:48] <GridCube> that should fix things
[00:49]  * GridCube hopes they do :)
[00:49] <fclt> ok
[00:49] <fclt> me 2
[00:49] <fclt> tkx :D
[00:50] <GridCube> no problem, come back to tell if it worked ;D
[00:50] <GridCube> so if someone with the same problem comes i know what to say :p
[00:53] <fclt> fclt@fclt-laptop:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:53] <fclt> [sudo] password for fclt:
[00:53] <fclt> Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:53] <fclt> so ill just reboot and pray
[01:29] <fclt> yo GridCube
[01:29] <fclt> ain-t got good news... :(
[01:30] <GridCube> :/
[01:31] <GridCube> what happened?
[01:31] <fclt> hum
[01:31] <fclt> I recovered grub
[01:31] <fclt> it went well
[01:31] <fclt> but I updated oneiric
[01:31] <fclt> and then reboot
[01:32] <fclt> and... got splash screen in an odd resolution
[01:32] <GridCube> oh
[01:32] <fclt> bluish screen
[01:32] <GridCube> thats normal
[01:32] <fclt> and nothing...
[01:32] <GridCube> i mean its a normal breaking thing that sometimes happen
[01:32] <fclt> yeah
[01:32] <fclt> but it wont boot to windows manager
[01:33] <GridCube> oh
[01:33] <fclt> it freezes in a blue screen
[01:33] <GridCube> thats no so good
[01:33] <fclt> yeah
[01:33] <fclt> its weird
[01:33] <GridCube> fclt, on your grub you should have >other version of linux        as another entry
[01:34] <GridCube> usually its the third one
[01:34] <GridCube> or the forth, there you can boot into other kernels
[01:34] <fclt> but how, if I already formatted my hd a thousand times
[01:34] <GridCube> :) but you just updated it
[01:34] <GridCube> and the kernel got updated
[01:34] <fclt> ah...
[01:35] <fclt> but now I can-t access grub2.config
[01:35] <GridCube> yeah that doesnt matter
[01:35] <GridCube> when you boot
[01:35] <GridCube> it should have an entry called something like that
[01:36] <GridCube> >other versions of linux
[01:36] <GridCube> or something like that
[01:36] <fclt> with the super grub_
[01:36] <GridCube> and it should boot exactly like the time it worked
[01:36] <GridCube> no no
[01:36] <GridCube> from the standard grub
[01:36] <fclt> the thing is I have no standard grub
[01:36] <fclt> no kernel choose menu
[01:36] <fclt> it boor right into xubuntu
[01:37] <fclt> it boots{
[01:37] <GridCube> mmm didnt you say you respored it?
[01:37] <GridCube> oh
[01:37] <fclt> yes
[01:37] <GridCube> ...
[01:37] <fclt> I restored
[01:37] <fclt> booted successfully
[01:37] <fclt> but after update
[01:37] <fclt> nop
[01:37] <GridCube> D:
[01:37] <fclt> it shows the splash screen
[01:37] <fclt> and that-s all
[01:37] <GridCube> but thats wrong
[01:38] <fclt> after ugly splash it freezes
[01:38] <fclt> yep
[01:38] <fclt> and i noticed that for a time
[01:38] <fclt> that I had no grub menu
[01:38] <GridCube> the thing is, the splash should happen after grub
[01:38] <fclt> yep
[01:38] <fclt> but no grub
[01:38] <GridCube> i see
[01:38] <fclt> and I formated my hd
[01:38] <fclt> a thousand times
[01:38] <GridCube> D:
[01:38] <GridCube> but not now
[01:39] <GridCube> ?
[01:39] <fclt> yes i formatted
[01:39] <GridCube> fclt, you might have a broken mbr
[01:39] <fclt> yes
[01:39] <fclt> I googked a mbr editor
[01:39] <GridCube> you might need to fix it using proper tools
[01:39] <fclt> and burned a dvd with it
[01:39] <fclt> but didn-t worked
[01:40] <fclt> what do you suggest GridCube +
[01:40] <GridCube> fclt, in the supergrub site, it has another image, a rescue cd with tons of tools, check it out to see if you can use it?
[01:41] <GridCube> i don't really know, sorry :(
[01:42] <fclt> you mean rescatux_
[01:43] <GridCube> yeah that
[01:43] <GridCube> you could check it, :/ maybe it can fix your mbr
[03:00] <lightning_Lectri> Hello.
[03:00] <lightning_Lectri> If anyone here is part of the Xubuntu project you are a hero.
[03:00] <lightning_Lectri> Best distro yet.
[03:01] <fclt> yo guys
[03:02] <fclt> it would be the best distro ever if the splash screen would be customizablwe
[03:02] <fclt> it's kinda ugly :\
[03:02] <lightning_Lectri> You think?
[03:02] <lightning_Lectri> I've tried KDE ubuntu and standard Ubuntu.
[03:03] <lightning_Lectri> They're layouts are brutle.
[03:03] <lightning_Lectri> If it runs bad on my old toaster here, it's bad.
[03:03] <lightning_Lectri> Xubuntu is smooth.
[03:05] <lightning_Lectri> !XChat
[03:05] <lightning_Lectri> !Guidelines
[04:30] <YoHoMoJo> Hey, does anyone know how I can get image files on my desktop to have thumbnails?
[04:30] <YoHoMoJo> running xubuntu 11.10
[04:31] <holstein> mabye http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-thumbnailers
[04:31] <YoHoMoJo> Thanks, holstein, I'll try that
[04:32] <holstein> YoHoMoJo: thats going to be in the file manger though... not sure if you mean on the actual desktop view...
[04:32] <YoHoMoJo> Oh yeah, I mean the actual desktop
[04:32] <YoHoMoJo> I guess I can just use file manager though, thanks
[04:37] <avat> hello
[04:45] <avat> I have an old Dell Inspiron 2200. The screen is smashed so I have to use a EMachines external monitor - trying to install xubuntu (ocelot), but monitor displays "out of range 35.4k 173hz"
[04:45] <avat> Any suggestions?
[06:24] <avat> hello [22:45] <avat> I have an old Dell Inspiron 2200. The screen is smashed so I have to use a EMachines external monitor - trying to install xubuntu (ocelot), but monitor displays "out of range 35.4k 173hz" [22:45] <avat> Any suggestions?
[06:46] <jasonsrus2007> hello i just installed xubuntu and when i open thunar i get a long hang time and after a while it gives me a ''did not receive reply'' is there a way to fix this?
[09:05] <subb1> hi all. Can i ask here some info about ati driver install issue on lucid?
 [20:30:02] Hey, does anyone know how I can get image files on my
[09:06] <Unhammer> 	   desktop to have thumbnails?
[09:06] <Unhammer> that's scheduled for xfce 4.10 I think (they're changing the backend for displaying the desktop)
[09:06] <Unhammer> oh, gone
[09:26] <ktwo> why do some elements not change style according to the setting under "Appearance" this happens for instant to the update-manager
[09:26] <ktwo> it looks "greyer" and more simple
[10:13] <Kingsy> has anyone found that certain sites parts of sites don't work on xubuntu.. for example, I am trying to upload an image to a website using the magento backend.. it works on a windows machine, not xubuntu
[10:20] <Kingsy> does xubuntu come with flash?
[10:20] <Myrtti> not by default IIRC
[10:21] <Kingsy> that'll be it then :)
[10:21] <Kingsy> btw what does IIRC mean?
[10:21] <Myrtti> If I recollect/remember correctly
[10:23] <Kingsy> ah
[10:23] <Kingsy> Myrtti: what program can you install rpm packages with?
[10:23] <Kingsy> looks like adobe flash doesnt get shipped in a .deb anymore
[10:23] <Myrtti> I wouldn't unless there is no other option
[10:23] <Myrtti> sure it is
[10:23] <Kingsy> it is?
[10:23] <Myrtti> you can install it without downloading from adobe
[10:24] <Myrtti> hold on, I'll poke my apt
[10:24] <Kingsy> ah
[10:24] <Kingsy> flashplugin-installer
[10:24] <Kingsy> right?
[10:26] <Myrtti> I've got flashplugin-downloader but I think you might have it correct as well
[10:26] <Kingsy> yeah there is a downloader and an installer..
[10:27] <Kingsy> what the hell is th e difference?
[10:27] <Kingsy> hmm flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[10:28] <Unhammer> If you checked "include restricted stuff" when installing, you should have flash, otherwise, it should be in Software Center
[10:29] <Kingsy> Unhammer: well apt-get says I have it installed.. but I still cant get certain sites to work
[10:29] <Kingsy> so there is something I don't have
[10:30] <Unhammer> do test if it's actually flash that's missing though, http://doihaveflash.com/
[10:31] <Unhammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash might be helpful
[10:31] <Marzata> installed xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:41] <Kingsy> yeah YES, version LNX11.1.102
[10:42] <Kingsy> Marzata: no, I didnt have that installed
[10:43] <Kingsy> Marzata: what does that even do? should I restart my browser?
[10:44] <Marzata> installs all proprietary stuff you need like flash, etc.
[10:47] <Kingsy> Marzata: well that didnt fix the problem :S
[10:51] <Marzata> Kingsy: problem?
[10:53] <Kingsy> Marzata: I think its specific to my web application actaully, not a OS fault
[10:54] <Marzata> dunno bout that magento
[10:55] <Kingsy> yeah.. :S
 yeah YES, version LNX11.1.102  [11:41]
[11:05] <Unhammer> then you have flash installed
[11:06] <Kingsy> yeah :)
[11:06] <Kingsy> thanks
[11:11] <Unhammer> any particular web site?
[11:11] <Unhammer> might be silverlight *shudder*
[11:16] <deusex1983> hi guys
[11:16] <deusex1983> why I cannot set the brightness with power management off after updating xorg packages on my laptop?
[12:43] <cYmen_> Which lightweight background rss reader would you recommend?
[12:48] <baizon> is use google reader :D
[13:03] <fclt> yo guys
[13:03] <fclt> I just installed xubuntu
[13:03] <fclt> on 2 laptops
[13:03] <fclt> different ones...
[13:04] <fclt> and both with ati graphics
[13:04] <fclt> but I can't install the drivers...
[13:04] <fclt> proprietary ones...
[13:04] <fclt> whats wrong?
[13:04] <fclt> thanks
[13:21] <Unhammer> cYmen_, newsbeuter is a cli feed reader, I'd say that's pretty lightweight ;)
[13:21] <Unhammer> I use gnus (with gwene) myself, but if you're not an emacs fan I wouldn't recommend it
[13:22] <Unhammer> there's also tt-rss, web-based: http://tt-rss.org/redmine/
[13:24] <Marzata> yo
[13:25] <fclt> guys, why can't I install ati drivers on xubuntu 11.04? :\
[13:27] <fclt> and why am I trying to get su previledges
[13:27] <Unhammer> fclt, you'll have to provide more info if you want help, we can't read your mind
[13:27] <fclt> and it says the pw is wrong?..:\
[13:27] <Unhammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:28] <fclt> well
[13:28] <fclt> I can paste my jockey.log file
[13:28] <fclt> the installer say to read it
[13:28] <fclt> but I understand shit about it
[13:28] <fclt> Unhammer, what about super-user?
[13:29] <fclt> I type su in terminal
[13:29] <fclt> write the pw
[13:29] <fclt> and it says it's wrong?.. :\
[13:29] <TheSheep> fclt: use sudo, not su
[13:29] <fclt> but i want to run a .run file
[13:30] <fclt> and sudo doesn't seem to work...
[13:30] <TheSheep> fclt: what are you doing and what message are you getting that suggests it doesn't work?
[13:30] <fclt> well, I want to install ati drivers
[13:31] <fclt> I just run the green aditional drivers button on taskbar
[13:31] <fclt> but it won't install
[13:31] <fclt> it says that drivers could not be installed
[13:31] <fclt> to check jockey.log
[13:31] <fclt> I thought
[13:32] <fclt> "let's go manual"
[13:32] <fclt> and I downloaded the file from amd site
[13:32] <Unhammer> fclt, did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[13:35] <Unhammer> fclt, if you want to share log files, use a site like http://code.bulix.org/
[13:35] <Unhammer> fclt, did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[13:35] <Unhammer> fclt, if you want to share log files, use a site like http://code.bulix.org/
[13:35] <fclt> Unhammer, I'm confused...
[13:36] <Unhammer> by?
[13:36] <fclt> now my synaptic is trowing some errors
[13:36] <fclt> ...
[13:36] <fclt> I was following that links instructions
[13:37] <fclt> but there's smth wrong with synaptic too
[13:37] <fclt> and maybe that's the problem...
[13:39] <fclt> ok
[13:40] <fclt> now I understand nothing...
[13:40] <fclt> I need help
[13:41] <PTBD> hallo. when plugging a hdmi cable into my notebook should xubuntu automatically detect the video and sound output?
[13:41] <TheSheep> fclt: you need to be more informative, "some errors" means nothing
[13:42] <TheSheep> PTBD: no, you may need to enable it with xrandr
[13:42] <PTBD> I've read that it should work with pulseaudio and higher. thought something is going wrong for me
[13:43] <fclt> well I did wanted to paste
[13:43] <fclt> but not even the paste worked-.-
[13:43] <Unhammer> fclt, paste into http://code.bulix.org/ and show the link here
[13:44] <fclt> Unhammer, that paste didn't worked for me :\
[13:44] <fclt> http://pastebin.com/3Ya6vc7n
[13:44] <fclt> this is the synaptic error on reloading repos
[13:44] <cYmen_> Unhammer: I'd like something systray/panel based...
[13:45] <PTBD> TheSheep, could you tell me what I can use to change the output soundcard? preferably terminal command
[13:46] <Unhammer> fclt, a trick: try searching for the error on the net ;)
[13:47] <fclt> oh god
[13:47] <fclt> I think i'll stick with lucid
[13:47] <fclt> or give fedora a try
[13:47] <fclt> :s
[13:47] <Unhammer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1877/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-resolve-apt-get-badsig-gpg-errors
[13:48] <fclt> well in thank case
[13:49] <fclt> might be from the repos I listed yesterday
[13:49] <fclt> but still...
[13:49] <fclt> how the hack I run a .run file with su previledges?
[13:49] <Unhammer> actually, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11506995&postcount=5 gives an even clearer answer
[13:49] <Unhammer> fclt, "sudo ./name-of-file.run"
[13:49] <Unhammer> without quotes
[13:50] <Unhammer> that is, if you're in the directory of the file
[13:50] <fclt> oh... ./
[13:50] <fclt> ok
[13:54] <fclt> Unhammer, it seems that manual install is working...
[13:54] <fclt> why auto isn't? :?-
[14:12] <mudman> hi
[14:12] <GridCube> hi
[14:13] <mudman> just came to say thanks for the help I got the other day
[14:14] <mudman> seems my wifi usb stick was supported but had some problems it was really old :/
[14:14] <mudman> just bought an SMC wusbs-n3 and worked right out of the box
[14:15] <mudman> it was just plug and connect ;D
[14:15] <GridCube> :D awesome
[14:15] <GridCube> congrats
[14:15] <mudman> yep thanks :D
[14:15] <GridCube> no problem :)
[14:16] <GridCube> anyway i don't remember if i helped you so, im not taking credit :P
[14:16] <mudman> the people that helped me the most dont seem to be online but I'll come back again
[14:17] <GridCube> :)
[14:20] <GridCube> its always nice to get a comeback from people mudman :D
[14:23] <mudman> everyone should give feedback when they get help
[14:24] <mudman> now at least i can also give some advice on at least 1 usb stick working right out of the box :D
[15:06] <mudman> GridCube, thank you for all the help :D
[15:06] <GridCube> :) no te preocupes :D un placer
[15:06] <GridCube> ups.. XD ah, don't worry :D
[16:18] <brad_> hey there, my kernel keeps panicing on my laptop.  was using mint debian, it was crashing, switched to the liqorix kernel on mint debian, still crashing, tried different nvidia drivers, it was crashing, tried xubuntu, it crashes.  if i use windows 7 it's fine.  any ideas?
[16:20] <brad_> i tried the legacy nvidia drivers for xubuntu and the modern ones, crashes both ways.  google chrome, flash on firefox, and watching a movie on vlc crash it.  it's making me nuts!  any ideas?  thanks!
[16:24] <holstein> brad_: the graphics drivers is a good place to start.. i would elaborate as to what the 'modern' onces are... in cases like that i usually try the last LTS (ubuntu 10.04)
[16:28] <brad_> hmmm, ok, i have an 8200 m chipset gpu thingy
[16:29] <brad_> the legacy drivers are 173
[16:29] <brad_> and the modern nvidia drivers are just the standard ones that ubuntu installs, not sure which version they are
[16:29] <brad_> both crash my laptop
[16:30] <brad_> actually i dont know if they crash it, but my laptop crashes with them both.
[16:36] <holstein> OK... so you could try the ones from nvidia.. you can also try *buntu 10.04
[16:37] <holstein> i tend to just try different kernels and drivers (whenever possible) live...
[16:38] <holstein> im sure you have seen these entries... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769921
[16:40] <brad_> what do you mean try them live?  i'm checking out this thread you sent.
[16:43] <brad_> i'm gonna try the current nvidia post release updates, so i'll restart now, be back, thanks!
[19:17] <anonh4mm3rlinux> does anyone know how to get to the system preferences from system settings menu? like all the old ubuntus had?
[19:18] <pleia2> anonh4mm3rlinux: what version of xubuntu are you using? it changed a bit when we went to 4.8 but you should be able to find most stuff
[19:19] <anonh4mm3rlinux> i just installed the new 11.10 ubuntu with defualt settings.
[19:19] <pleia2> ubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:19] <holstein> ubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:19] <holstein> pleia2: sorry...
[19:19] <pleia2> :)
[19:19] <anonh4mm3rlinux> ubuntu
[19:19] <pleia2> this is the xubuntu support channel, you want #ubuntu for questions about ubuntu settings
[19:19] <pleia2> they are much different
[19:19] <anonh4mm3rlinux> ok thx
[20:00] <lighta> hey I wonder where did my sound mixer went, was there an update about that recently ?
[20:35] <deusex1983> can someone help me with xubuntu 11.10 under t510 with brightness problems
[20:36] <deusex1983> for example power management
[20:37] <deusex1983> when connected to power source I cannot change it from 80% to another value
[20:38] <deusex1983> what could be the problem?
[20:38] <deusex1983> with my lenovo
[22:10] <w30> Well, I couldn't get my upgrade to 11.10 on my laptop to work properly so I put Xubuntu on it. Now it works properly. Thanks to you Xubuntu guys; you saved my day. Again!  *smile*
[22:12] <mongy> nice
[22:17] <Dajepp> I have a prob lem - cant get wifi card to see my network - Xubuntu on a dell
[22:19] <Dajepp> I have installed wicd and uninstalled network (a suggestion from another
[22:19] <Dajepp> how can I verify my card is good?
[22:20] <mongy> Dajepp, lspci | grep Network
[22:21] <mongy> Dajepp, not so much to do with network manager or wicd, and more to do with your driver, i suspect.
[22:21] <Dajepp> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:21] <Dajepp> i updated driver
[22:22] <mongy> so you have the STA driver installed?
[22:23] <Dajepp> on additional drivers it says the driver is active and in use
[22:25] <mongy> does it see any hotspots?
[22:25] <Dajepp> nope
[22:25] <mongy> sudo modprobe -r wl ; sudo modprobe wl
[22:28] <Dajepp> weird - when i run that command - it asks for my password - when I try to type it in - nothing happens
[22:28] <mongy> normal
[22:29] <mongy> lsmod | grep wl
[22:29] <Dajepp> wl                   2646601  0
[22:29] <Dajepp> lib80211               14570  1 wl
[22:30] <mongy> so it's driver is loaded fine.  is your hotspot hidden by chance?
[22:30] <Dajepp> nope
[22:30] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ sudo rfkill list all
[22:30] <Dajepp> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[22:30] <Dajepp> 	Soft blocked: yes
[22:30] <Dajepp> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:30] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ sudo rfkill unblock all
[22:30] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ sudo rfkill list all
[22:30] <Dajepp> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[22:31] <Dajepp> 	Soft blocked: yes
[22:31] <Dajepp> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:31] <Dajepp> what does that mean?
[22:31] <mongy> is there a switch to enable/disable wifi or hotkey
[22:32] <Dajepp> yes - i have now switched it
[22:33] <Dajepp> ~$ sudo rfkill list all
[22:33] <Dajepp> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[22:33] <Dajepp> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:33] <Dajepp> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:33] <Dajepp> still no connection tho
[22:33] <mongy> reload the module
[22:34] <Dajepp> how?
[22:34] <mongy> sudo modprobe -r wl ; sudo modprobe wl
[22:34] <Dajepp> k
[22:34] <Dajepp> now what?
[22:34] <mongy> though, it should really 'auto' itself.
[22:35] <mongy> anything in wicd?
[22:35] <Dajepp> nope
[22:36] <mongy> sudo iwlist eth2 scan
[22:36] <mongy> replace eth2 with your interface.  eth1 or eth2 probably.
[22:36] <Dajepp> eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[22:37] <mongy> with sudo?
[22:37] <Dajepp> yup
[22:37] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ sudo iwlist eth2 scan
[22:37] <Dajepp> eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[22:37] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[22:37] <Dajepp> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[22:38] <mongy> iwconfig
[22:38] <mongy> which is your interface
[22:38] <Dajepp> $ iwconfig
[22:38] <Dajepp> lo        no wireless extensions.
[22:38] <Dajepp> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[22:38] <mongy> ah.
[22:40] <Dajepp> so what does that mean?
[22:40] <mongy> try restarting networking.  sudo sevice networking restart
[22:41] <mongy> ..anyone else wanna jump in?
[22:41] <Dajepp> $ sudo sevice networking restart
[22:41] <Dajepp> sudo: sevice: command not found
[22:41] <mongy> oops
[22:41] <mongy> service
[22:41] <mongy> not sevice
[22:42] <Dajepp> $ sudo service networking restart
[22:42] <Dajepp> restart: Unknown instance:
[22:43] <mongy> just restart your machine, for the sake of being lazy :)
[22:43] <Dajepp> lol ok
[22:43] <Dajepp> brb - i hope
[22:45] <Dajepp> im back
[22:45] <Dajepp> no wireless in wicd
[22:46] <mongy> don
[22:46] <mongy> don't understand.  driver is installed, module loaded.
[22:46] <mongy> hmm
[22:46] <Dajepp> i just installed this card -
[22:47] <Dajepp> the commands we have sent - did they verify it was working?
[22:47] <mongy> verified it was in your system, and the wl module was loaded.
[22:49] <mongy> I'm not the best networking person to ask though.  Hope someone else will chime in.
[22:50] <Dajepp> :~$ nm-tool
[22:50] <Dajepp> NetworkManager Tool
[22:50] <Dajepp> State: connected (global)
[22:50] <Dajepp> - Device: eth0  [Wired connection 1] -------------------------------------------
[22:50] <Dajepp>   Type:              Wired
[22:50] <Dajepp>   Driver:            tg3
[22:50] <Dajepp>   State:             connected
[22:50] <Dajepp>   Default:           yes
[22:50] <Dajepp>   HW Address:        00:18:8B:B8:AB:31
[22:50] <Dajepp>   Capabilities:
[22:50] <Dajepp>     Carrier Detect:  yes
[22:50] <Dajepp>     Speed:           1000 Mb/s
[22:50] <Dajepp>   Wired Properties
[22:50] <Dajepp>     Carrier:         on
[22:50] <Dajepp>   IPv4 Settings:
[22:50] <Dajepp> why no wireless here?
[22:51] <mongy> exactly.
[22:52] <w30> my Dell Inspiron is flakey; If I use the fn wirless key to shut off wifi radio it won't toggle back on I have to ge into bios and enable it even though bios says it is enabled.
[22:52] <Dajepp> I dc's my wired connection anr ran nm tool
[22:52] <Dajepp> nm-tool
[22:52] <Dajepp> :~$: command not found
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ NetworkManager Tool
[22:52] <Dajepp> Failed to read classid file: Object not found
[22:52] <Dajepp> You must be root to run NetworkManager!
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ State: connected (global)
[22:52] <Dajepp> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ - Device: eth0  [Wired connection 1] -------------------------------------------
[22:52] <Dajepp> -: command not found
[22:52] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   Type:              Wired
[22:53] <Dajepp> Type:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   Driver:            tg3
[22:53] <Dajepp> Driver:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   State:             connected
[22:53] <Dajepp> State:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   Default:           yes
[22:53] <mongy> Dajepp, what does /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules say
[22:53] <Dajepp> Default:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   HW Address:        00:18:8B:B8:AB:31
[22:53] <Dajepp> HW: command not found
[22:53] <fclt> hey guys
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   Capabilities:
[22:53] <Dajepp> Capabilities:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$     Carrier Detect:  yes
[22:53] <Dajepp> Carrier: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$     Speed:           1000 Mb/s
[22:53] <Dajepp> Speed:: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   Wired Properties
[22:53] <Dajepp> Wired: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$     Carrier:         on
[22:53] <Dajepp> Carrier:: command not found
[22:53] <mongy> Dajepp,  pastebin your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$   IPv4 Settings:
[22:53] <Dajepp> IPv4: command not found
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ ^C
[22:53] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[22:54] <Dajepp> w30 is there a function key that shust off the wireless on dells?
[22:55] <mongy> Dajepp, I have a studio 1747, had an inspiron, both have function keys.  (F2)
[22:55] <fclt>    * SECURITY UPDATE: Unprivileged users may be able to write to directories
[22:55] <fclt>     and read files created by event handler scripts
[22:55] <fclt>     - event.c: Set a restrictive umask of 0077 before running an event handler
[22:55] <fclt>       script. Based on upstream patch.
[22:55] <fclt>     - CVE-2011-4578
[22:55] <fclt> || what does this mean?
[22:56] <w30> Dajepp, mine has a key with a picture of a radio tower on it on the F2 key
[22:56] <Dajepp> mine (D620) has a switch on the left side - I dont have any radio icons
[22:56] <w30> Dajepp, the fn key modifies the F2 key
[22:57] <Dajepp> mongy - i dont understand the pastebin request - how?
[22:57] <mongy> Dajepp, you have a hardware switch then.
[22:57] <Dajepp> BTW - i tried fn f2
[22:58] <mongy> Dajepp, the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  copy paste that to pastebin.org
[22:58] <mongy> and provide the link here
[22:58] <Dajepp> i did use the hardware switch - thats how i got it to unlock
[22:58] <w30> Dajepp, also I have a bios setting to control the on or off of the radio
[23:01] <Dajepp> mongy do i paste the file or the text from the file?
[23:02] <mongy> text
[23:02] <Dajepp> ok
[23:02] <mongy> could install pastebinit and then cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | pastebinit
[23:02] <mongy> and it will spit out a link
[23:07] <hobgoblin> pastebinit should be installed I think mongy
[23:08]  * hobgoblin thinks all the buntus should have pastebinit installed by default :)
[23:10] <w30> my xubuntu live cd works on my Inspiron with wifi automatically enabled as it boots
[23:11] <mongy> I select 3rd party during install and it installs it before it gets to partitioning.
[23:11] <mongy> it's on the install media.
[23:15] <Dajepp> ugg  my comp froze up
[23:17] <Dajepp> mongy it is pasted
[23:17] <Dajepp> "net rules"
[23:17] <mongy> need the link
[23:18] <Dajepp> http://pastebin.com/igEKyuyU
[23:19] <mongy> did you have the b43 driver installed as well?
[23:19] <Dajepp> dont know what that is
[23:19] <Dajepp> how do i tell?
[23:21] <mongy> well, there is wlan in that file.  wlan is more to do with b43 and eth1/eth2 is what the proprietary STA driver uses
[23:21] <mongy> did you activate a b43 driver in additional drivers also?
[23:22] <Dajepp> no - i dont think so - when i look at the additional drivers - i onl see te broadcom STA wireless driver
[23:23] <mongy>  lsmod | grep b43
[23:24] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$ lsmod | grep b43
[23:24] <Dajepp> chad@TheDell:~$
[23:24] <mongy> ok
[23:27] <fclt> yo
[23:27] <fclt> anyone running oneiric with ati drivers?
[23:27] <mongy> Dajepp,  sudo lshw -C Network | grep serial
[23:28] <Dajepp> mongy serial: 00:18:8b:b8:ab:31
[23:28] <mongy> k, thats your eth0 (lan)
[23:31] <mongy> I'm not too sure tbh on how to get you wifi interface to come up.
[23:31] <mongy> if it detects the hardware to offer you the driver, and installs the driver and loads the module but does no give you the interface, eh, I dunno
[23:32] <Dajepp> hmmm - frustrating
[23:32] <mongy> this aint just an xubuntu thing, ask in #ubuntu
[23:32] <Dajepp> ok
[23:32] <Dajepp> thnx for trying
[23:32] <mongy> more eyes in there
[23:33] <mongy> I can't think straight tonight.  late and long day