[00:44] hi I can only active kwin desktop effects by running env KWIN_COMPOSE=O kwin --replace. when I disable kwin effects and restart. Try to enable kwin effects again I get error message. If I run the command line again kwin effects works. is it kwin/kde bug? [00:46] just from curiosity what kind of video card and drivers are you using? [00:47] qbit, nvidia geforce go 7400 and I am using nvidia 295.9 drivers. [00:50] was just curious - here I have 280.13 with a gts-450 and have no problems [00:50] is the "go" version a laptop chip? [00:50] qbit, yes. [00:51] just looks strange - the geforce 7400 part [00:51] and kwin effects does not even work at all in 280.13 [00:51] because I thought that was fairly old [00:51] not with 290.* either [00:51] the reason I mention it was nvidia split their drivers some time back [00:52] I needed compile 295.* from source to even have chance to get it working. [00:52] at some point older stuff was moved out from the new driverbase and into what they called "legacy" support [00:52] and IIRC legact support would be something like a version 173.xxx something or other [00:52] qbit, does not work either, the legacy drivers. [00:53] there are lists that specify which are for which [00:53] qbit, I do not understand. [00:53] one thing you can do to see if it is an OpenGL support problem is change the rendering [00:55] qbit, how can I see that? [00:55] in system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced tab - change the compositing type to Xrender [00:55] qbit, I did that ones. and changed back, with older driver. that was not a :) good move. [00:55] if it all the sudden seems happy using Xrender you aren't supporting OpenGL correctly [00:56] the "Blur" effect was a problem for a while - do you have that 'on'? [00:56] qbit, yes. but that should be fixed with kde 4.8.0 [00:57] well I removed 4.8 from my box because it ain't ready for prime time [00:57] thing about the nvidia drivers there is a kernel module involved [00:58] qbit, okey. what kernel module? [00:58] when you install the latest stuff downloaded from the nvidia web site, you will need gcc, make, etc and kernel-headers so the installer can compile this module [00:58] qbit, :) I compiled nvidia drivers the "ubuntu way". [00:59] when you utilize the drivers from the kubuntu repos these come prebuilt and matching the kernel [01:00] qbit, yes I know. I build the driver/package like normal kubuntu/ubuntu nvidia drivers. [01:00] because I used to use opensuse and after a certain release of nvidia drivers I used to do this too and no end of trouble [01:01] it's one of about 5 reasons I'm using jubuntu now [01:01] the older driver that worked stopped working with kernel 3.x.x [01:02] qbit, like I said I use kubuntu and nvidia drivers are build the same as nvidia drivers for all buntus. [01:02] iirc the install process was supposed to blacklist the nouveu module.driver [01:03] just looking for differences as to maybe why mine works flawless and your doesn't [01:03] qbit, you have the same card? [01:04] have you examined /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lucky hints [01:04] I have a GTS-450 Palit [01:05] does your laptop have 2 video chips in it? [01:07] I have seen people fight with those forever, and there is some headway beginning to made wrt to what they call 'Optimus', which is a laptop that has 2 video chips in it [01:07] qbit, http://paste.ubuntu.com/819529/ [01:07] qbit, no I do not have any hybrid card [01:10] I don't see anything particularly jumping out at me wrong there (your Xorg.0.log) [01:11] qbit, yeah I know. I am lost. :( [01:11] and I'm quickly running out of ideas too :( [01:12] now this is odd: Linux 2.6.24-29-server i686 [01:13] qbit, why? [01:13] is this really what uname -a reports? [01:13] uname -r [01:13] 3.0.0-15-generic [01:13] OK - that;s as it should be [01:14] qbit, yes. [01:14] Ok 0 I just looked at mine and it's the same [01:14] qbit, I wonder if I run autostart that command line like script [01:15] the line right below has the 3.0.0.15 in it as current operating system [01:15] I do recall some time ago you had to pass nomodeset on the grub boot line, but that should no longer apply [01:16] and iirc the problem that solved was a black screen with nothing [01:17] and if you turn desktop effects off entirely it works fine I bet [01:17] qbit, did not get you. [01:17] qbit, I added nomodeset and other thing to fix plymouth :) [01:18] yes - you know then :-) [01:19] Has anyone else here had problems with panels that won't auto-unhide? I just get the blue glow when I move the mouse to that screen edge. [01:23] Kurdistan: well I'm about out of ideas, other than deinstalling and using the Additional drivers menu option with the kubuntu repositories - and I strongly hesitate to even say that because it will probably reall make a mess [01:24] if you have enough performance to use the machine with desktop effects completely turned off and wait for someone smarter than me to come up with better ideas :-) [01:24] qbit, if I use kubuntus repo nvidia driver and try to active kwin effects [01:25] my desktop will freez [01:25] ughhh [01:25] and I will not be able to boot up after restart [01:25] so you've already been down that road.... [01:25] I need then to edit from livecd kwinrc [01:25] qbit, :) yes. tried that. [01:26] I know a while back I had a problem where I had to completely remove my kwinrc and reboot [01:26] and it put a default one back [01:26] that was like 5 months ago [01:26] qbit, that works also. [01:27] but you can also :) enabled=true to change to enabled=false [01:31] qbit, do you know how to autostart a script in kubuntu? were should I put it? ~/.kde/env or ~/.kde/Autostart? [01:32] I was never entirely certain of that [01:32] the gtk one is in env [01:32] but I think it can be configured in systemsettings [01:33] the startup and shutdown -> Autostart option [01:34] I'm confused by that because when you look there you'll see a gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh startup script, but that script is actually located in env [01:35] qbit, exactly. [01:35] I suspect the Autostart directory is cruft for backwards compatible [01:36] don't forget if you put one there to chmod it executable [01:36] qbit, thinking on making script like this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/819548/ [01:37] he he - "if it works don't fix0r it" :-) [01:38] that looks like to me it turns kwin compositing off and restarts kwin [01:38] or is that a O for "on"? and not a zero [01:39] qbit, it force it to enabled/work it. [01:39] got it from nvidia channel for time ago. [01:40] oh, and you're using Xorg on auto-pilot too I bet - I don't, I have a hand edited xorg.conf manually created to get my 2nd monitor to work using TwinView [01:40] need to sleep. will come back tomorrow. [01:41] qbit, :) same here. [01:41] couple more hours I'll be right behinf you [01:41] me getting sleepy too [01:41] well best of luck to you [01:41] hope it gets better :-) [01:41] qbit, sudo nvidia-xconfig this will create xorg.conf file [01:42] then you can edit the way you wanted [01:42] mine has followe me from FreeBSD through Solaris before transplanting it to Linux [02:37] http://pastebin.com/awgrAY6f <--- dmesg [02:37] help , usb drive rocketfish 3.5 external usb drive can be used by windows and mac, but not linux. linux sees the hard ware and even a usb flash drive plugged into the rocketfish external drive, but accessing the drive fails. [02:38] #ubuntu [02:53] I'm new to KDE, how do I find where it tells me what version I'm using? [02:58] mel, from any KDE app, like Dolphin or Amarok... Go to Help > About KDE [02:59] Kimlaroux: Great thanks, now where do you find what version of Kubuntu your using? [03:00] use the command cat /etc/lsb-release [03:01] Kimlaroux: awesome thanks again [03:33] question- I am trying to access kcontrol in ubuntu server 10.04 running KDE.... It seems it is not available. How do I install it?? [03:37] ?? [03:41] !search kcontrol [03:41] Found: launch-feedback [03:45] !search kcontrol [03:45] Found: launch-feedback [03:45] whats that mean? === paulocelso68 is now known as paulo_ [03:58] Can I get some help about using linux here? [03:59] I use Kubuntu 4.7 and it always forget my dual screen resolution (2 monitors) when I reboot. [03:59] Any clue about that? [04:00] help [04:06] Any ideas how to fix an auto-hiding panel that won't unhide? 4.8, been a problem since 4.7. [04:07] happens on old panels and newly-created ones. [04:11] Hello, is anyone here? [04:15] hello world! [04:17] could anyone be kind enough to point me towards a backup tool/app (preferrably gui based) for kubuntu 11.10? need one to create a backup/image of my /root partition. [04:23] hello [04:26] is Kubuntu supposed to have the new 4.8 ksecretservice as depicted in http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.8/screenshots/ksecretservice-sync.png ? [04:33] hi all [04:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/819640/ [04:34] - I'm having issues with iexplore 8 for wine on kubuntu [04:34] - above is the dump. not sure how to fix. please assist thanks === Archon is now known as Archon__ [04:48] hi,howto change the range of sizes in dolphin? only view in KiB, don't in GiB, MiB, etc..... [04:50] !iexplore [05:04] #CHANELS === aaron is now known as Guest47346 [06:04] we need a stand-in op in #ubuntu, fast. [06:13] Can any one tell me where samba stors the list of folders you share it seems to be sending the wrong paths. [06:14] I cannot access them on the remote machine nor locally either. [06:30] Anyone have a clue? [06:31] люди, поставил kubuntu 11.10 и не могу зайти в Центр программ Moun. выдает ошибку, что делать? [06:38] Helo? [06:38] Can any one tell me where samba stores the list of folders you share it seems to be sending the wrong paths. [06:40] used to be /etc/samba/smb.conf [06:40] might still be there. [06:40] SAMBA is effed yet again and I need to know how to fix it. Are the directories stored in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file or are they stored somewhere else? [06:41] I looked in smb.conf they aren't [06:41] Are they supossed to be any more? [06:43] not sure [06:52] where to find the Update Center? kubuntu 11.10 (Rus) [07:03] hello [07:05] I have a question about a problem Im having while trying to install kubuntu [07:06] is this the right place [07:15] Hey guys, I get an error that goes by too quickly for me to read when I log in... And I have no sound at all. [07:16] I can't say for certain, but I believe I'm missing some kind of driver file. [07:18] !help [07:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:19] !repair [07:25] is there away to get a terminal with a transparent background? [07:33] datruth, I can't remember which, but I believe one of the terminal client can do it... the easy solution is to use KDE's windows opacity on the whole window [07:37] no transparent options there [08:44] how to change language in console? [08:45] am i talking chinese or what? [08:51] hi everybody I've got a question about the new 4.8 KDE version [09:15] Hello, i just installed Kubuntu 11.10 and upgraded to kde 4.8 [09:15] everything is working fine except sftp [09:16] ok2cqr: go on [09:16] I tried to connect to my server from krusader but didnt work [09:16] I only got that auth failed [09:16] but i'm sure, the pass and username is correct [09:17] ok2cqr: does it work from Konsole? [09:17] also can't find how to connect to sftp from Doplhin, is there something like that, please? [09:17] yes, it does [09:18] ok2cqr: write "fish://username@host:path" in the path/address field on dolphin [09:18] yes, fish, not sftp (: [09:20] Tm_T: This works! Thank you! [09:21] It would be great if it could work also from Krusader. [09:21] ok2cqr: try fish there too? [09:22] although I don't know what benefit Krusader has over Dolphin [09:22] oh, you are right, it is working [09:26] I must say, I really love new KDE [09:26] Amarok with Jamendo is amazing [09:26] thanks ok2cqr :) [09:26] I've set panel to looks like in Win7 [09:27] running it in vmware but for sure I leave Unity and will install Kubuntu === james is now known as Guest96346 === Guest96346 is now known as Hydrogrow [09:36] * jdhfr wonders why amarok is such crap [09:43] jdhfr: many people find it a best-of-breed bit of free software [09:43] ok2cqr: how do you set the panel to look like windows 7? [09:44] i turn it on and suddently have "0 tracks in my collection" [09:44] sounds like you found a bug [09:44] I added to panel "Icon-only task manager" [09:44] it was in plasma widgets [09:45] sounds like amarok is what i said earlier [09:48] jdhfr: if your only intention is here to comment the quality of apps, then I have to ask you to stop, as this channel is for support, not for rants [09:56] how to enable hynernation? === peace_ is now known as Peace- [10:10] HOW to enable HYBERNATIOB? [10:10] jdhfr, you mean suspend to disc? [10:10] yes [10:10] it's a choice in the leave menu [10:11] in the K menu, I see Hibernation [10:11] does it have an icon? [10:11] yes, it's like a snow flake [10:12] oh. I would never had guessed because of braindead translators [10:12] you can also find it in the leave menu when you right click on the desktop > Leave > then old left mouse button over the Shut Down button until "suspend to disc" shows up [10:13] if fan runs faster than usualy eventhough there is no such a process overloading the CPU what the reasom might be ? [10:14] You can also use Alt+F2 and type in "hibernate", there's a suspend to disc option that shows up [10:14] SIQKO, have you looked at /proc/cpuinfo to see if your cores were running at high clocks? [10:15] nop but i checked with htop and system activity [10:16] first when i installed the os it was working and still works great but when i open a browser or package mannager or somthin else it just runs with high speed [10:17] I never heard of htop, what's the difference between it and top? [10:18] it is interactive and easier to mainuplate [10:18] u can scroll down and approach in a selected poroc [10:18] I'll check it out thanks [10:19] u'r welcome [10:19] are you running an old machine? Maybe your computer is having a hard time [10:19] but regarding my CPU worklead issue [10:19] nop [10:20] Oh wow, htop is neat! =) [10:20] yeah it's cool isn't it [10:20] try something: killall plasma-desktop [10:21] plasma desktop dude ... sure [10:21] then use the alt+f2 menu to launch things and see if your cpu still runs like crazy [10:21] you can always restard plasma-desktop through this menu [10:22] My guess is you've got too many desktop effects running [10:23] it appears only when i open a browser, multi tabing or as i said when i open the pcg manager etc [10:25] how do i disable the desktop effects [10:26] System settings > Look & Feel > Desktop > Desktop Effects [10:27] you can see them all under the tab All Effects [10:27] I used to run a bunch of them, but then hung my PC and made it run like crazy when I used too many apps [10:28] s/then/they [10:30] so do i disable all of them ? [10:31] not really... but you can disable them all in the General tab. At least to see if it's the problem [10:32] right under the tab, there's an option to disable desktop effects [10:33] u mean at activation [10:33] yeah it might be difference, they like to change things from one version to another [10:33] different* [10:34] I'm running an "old" kde [10:34] mhh i see [10:34] kubuntu 10.04 [10:34] and if that appeared in ur vers it must be very likely to be the same prbl here [10:35] u know what i am not concerned about [10:36] i runn the same os but in a different connections, when im in a wifi zone i open up so many tabs and flashes etc.. nothing happends [10:37] on the same computer? [10:37] yep [10:37] so i doubt about the network but since i lack further knowlegde i cannot assume anything [10:38] it's weird though that the internet connection would affect the processing power needed... but meh, not impossible ;) [10:39] i don't know as u said u said it is possible [10:40] and u know it is killing the fact that the fan is running this fast when i engage in a simple operation where there is no need for such a proc power [10:42] i removed the browsers than lots of thing that might somehow affect the cpu workload but when it still im not convinced [10:44] there is an option that says: very low display resolution and very high CPU [10:45] Yeah you can try it out [10:46] so low dp relsolution and low CPU (does low referes to CPU) ? [10:46] eventhough im goin to try whatever [10:49] so nex thing im going to try that with all effects i don't need tham if i wanted i'd be using mac [10:50] yeah the best way is to try, your problem could be somewhere else too, the only way to find it is to try things [10:53] isn't there any option how can i disable all of the effect cuz if i do manually an if thats not a prob how do activate tham again [10:54] yes there is [10:54] i mean how do i remember which one i deactivated [10:54] when on the "desktop effects" settings, isn't there 3 tabs on the screen? [10:54] and where do i find this [10:54] yep [10:54] General tab? [10:54] general all and advanced.. [10:55] right [10:55] then [10:55] in General, just under the tab, there's a check box that disables all the effects [10:56] there is one but refers for the start up meny [10:56] but.... [10:57] there is an option that says:desktop effects can be toggled anytime using this shortcut (alt shift f12) [10:58] oh nice, I didn't know about this shortcut =P [10:58] well is that useful in my case [10:59] why my volume tresets to 100% on each login? [10:59] but there is no options for all efects thought [10:59] well yes, just use the short cut to toggle the effects on and off, then test your system to see if the cpu runs fast [11:00] so this shortcut will stop the effects than if that's not the issue i'll try somthin else [11:01] SIQKO, http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/kde-is-slow-for-dummies/ [11:01] this is a nice article, with screen shots [11:01] I am refering to step 3 [11:01] dummies ??? ok why not [11:02] I don't care how the article is named... it's great [11:05] why my volume tresets to 100% on each login? [11:07] jdhfr, in kmix, there's a settings called "Restore volumes on login", you might want to toggle it and see what it does [11:07] no no it's pretty good im just kidin u know dummies ;) [11:08] it's on but it still does === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:08] maybe try it off? [11:09] and are you using puleaudio? [11:09] pulseaudio* [11:09] have no idea what i use [11:10] is kmix showing "pulseaudio" in one of the tabs? [11:11] I think I found something [11:11] jdhfr, go to system settings > system administration > multimedia [11:12] then? [11:12] What's the first thing showing up in the lists, analog or digital? [11:12] analog [11:13] hhmm, so your problem isn't like this guy's http://delogics.blogspot.com/2012/01/kde-volume-resets-pulseaudio.html [11:28] when do you i download a new theme for the splash sreen at the start up how do you install it, where it is saved i can't find [11:31] SIQKO, I never figured this one out... I simply install them from the control panel. There's a button that says "get more themes..." [11:32] Control panel .. on my way [11:32] from there you can make a search for the one you downloaded and install it [11:33] that's what i was looking for but i wasn't sure how to approachit it thnx man [11:35] omg i am so lame where is the control panel dude [11:39] u'r using the older vers things are bit of different in this one so sry for my .. [11:40] System Settings [11:41] I'm just used to call it "control panel"... XD [11:42] ohh now i feel lil better :D [11:42] sys setting and [11:43] Look & Feel > Appearance > Splash Screen [11:44] Hi all. I want to install java on my computer but I am completely lost. The more I read the kubuntu doc the less I understand want I'm suppose to do ... [11:44] actualy i did that [11:44] yeah, java can be confusing at first [11:44] but the installed ones are not showing on the list [11:45] Is there any tuto to help install java. I don't mind using any version but I just want it to work (I'm using a 64 bits version of kubuntu ...) [11:45] Oracle's java isn't supported on Ubuntu anymore, you have to install OpenJDK [11:45] so i don't know where they are located [11:45] Kimlaroux: Ok so I install openJDK and IcedTea plugin right ? [11:46] yep... you just have to search for "java" in your application manager [11:47] yeah, nevermind that [11:47] I just tried it, and a bunch of other stuff comes up [11:48] kerloi, the package you want is openjdk-6-jre [11:48] Well I was using the openJDK since now but I had some trouble. When I use java application within firefox, everything on the screen bug (black section, blinkering buttons etc ...) [11:48] and even if I close firefox it doesn't change anything. I have to restart the X session ... [11:49] you're not the first one to have problems with it, personally I can't even recall the last time I needed java [11:51] What about openjdk-7 ? [11:52] you have it? [11:52] it's not showing up in my system, but I'm running 10.04 [11:52] Well I can see it in muon logithec [11:52] I have 11.10 [11:53] yeah you have access to more up to date packages than I do ;) === ubuntu___ is now known as Eido [12:02] Kimlaroux: i did it, just needed to be installed after downloaded in in folder specified than it insalled [12:04] where's that? [12:04] I tried to install one and it didn't install, even though the "get new themes" window says it is [12:05] you just follow the link or copy it than chose the location [12:06] and after that u go to install and just installit no need to extract [12:07] where the themes are and instead of direct insalling em you download them and since you know where they are located it is easier to install then [12:08] but as i said do not insall manually try the meny next to get new themes, intall the theme and install the already downloaded one [12:11] Oh! How blind am I, I never noticed this button, thanks [12:14] no pob thank you too [12:54] Hiyas all [12:55] ah coffee is good today, we got 3 inchs of snow also [12:55] yup, we received about 2" yesterday [12:56] were are you? [12:56] im in michigan [12:57] Canada, what is known as Northern Ontario , about 200mi N of Toronto as the crow flies , and you ? [12:58] ok , been thru mich many times, where exactly [12:58] just 50 mile south of the canada us border [12:58] I75 nearby? [12:59] yep little town of Hessel [12:59] we basically get the same weather then [12:59] ya i think so [13:00] it's just around freezing mark here this morn, cloudy and dull [13:01] 31 deg f your 0c i think [13:01] yup [13:01] you been using linux a long time? [13:02] this is slowly becoming a conversation that would use #kubuntu-offtopic (; [13:02] ok Tm_T what do you want to talk about [13:02] just bought an iindoor outdoor thermometer m gonna hang the outdooe sensor in the birch tree in the back [13:03] mydogsnameisrudy, Tm_T is right, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic [13:04] ok fine ;) sorry [13:04] np (: [13:10] is there away to get a terminal with a transparent background? [13:10] datruth: yes [13:11] datruth: see the Konsole settings [13:11] Peace-: how? [13:11] datruth: google konsole transparent? [13:12] Peace-: telling people to google is not the way to help here [13:13] Tm_T: if he doesn't find ... i will help [13:13] datruth: if you go configure Konsole profile, edit the appearance preferences, there's transparency slider [13:13] Peace-: when people come to ask help here, you don't ask them to google first and only then help, this is not the purpose of this channel [13:14] is there some command to download all files from remote server directory ? [13:14] Tm_T: it was an easy question , the most of time here doesn't answer anyone [13:15] so if it's a problem this.. [13:15] i can always leave... [13:15] dont leave Peace- Tm_T is just being cranky ;) [13:16] Peace-: lets continue this on #ubuntu-ops so we don't disrupt the channel any further, ok? (: [13:17] wow , Tm_T . lighten up , you made your point === DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC [13:21] I guess compiz is needed for that [13:21] hrmm [13:21] datruth: hm? [13:22] datruth: should work just fine with Kwin [13:25] i found it hidden away in settings [13:25] datruth: got it working? [13:25] No it doesn't want to work with my desktop [13:26] but I did find the option [13:26] datruth: how it doesn't work? does it give any error message? [13:26] oh nvm [13:26] werid [13:26] I have to restart the program for it to take effect [13:26] (: [13:26] :) [13:27] soee: have you tried "wget -r http://blah/" [13:27] Peace-: thx for the search string [13:27] skaczor, yeah got it already [13:28] hello. I want to set ONLY the icons of my kubuntu 11.10 to default. How can I do it? [13:28] george: icon theme you mean? [13:30] Tm_T: yeah, but I don't want to delete .kde folder at ~ because it will mess up my other kde settings... [13:30] george: Oxygen icon theme is the default one, would selecting it do the job? [13:32] * datruth likes the transparent background now [13:32] Tm_T: the thing is that I've changed some app icons, folder icons and stuff. I don't quite remember which ones, so I just want to revert it to default. oxygen theme is already selected. [13:34] george: oh, individual apps? [13:34] Tm_T: yep. [13:35] george: individual folders have .directory files that contains the icon data [13:35] removing those files does the job [13:39]