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keeshallyn: oh, this is from the multiarchification00:19
keeshallyn: I'll figure out a fix00:19
keeshallyn: (912493)00:20
hallynkees: thanks00:22
barryjames_w: just saw your message, fantastic!  i'll add that to the blueprint00:43
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haraldjHello a quick question from a Debian packager: Does Ubuntu maintain any repositories for packages which are synced from Debian - specifically openswan17:48
Ampelbeinharaldj: You can access any package in Ubuntu via bzr: 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/<packagename>'18:13
* haraldj is back. 18:17
haraldjAmpelbein: well what does this branch contain?18:18
haraldjAmpelbein: A source package?18:18
Ampelbeinharaldj: Yes, the complete source package.18:18
haraldjAmpelbein: is it updated for new security or SRU releases?18:20
Ampelbeinharaldj: No, that's always the current development package, for other versions, use 'lp:ubuntu/<series>/<packagename', where series is for example 'oneiric' or 'oneiric-security' or 'oneiric-updates'.18:22
haraldjAmpelbein: So there is no need to create seperate Ubuntu Branches in alioth repository for tracking changes in Ubuntu?18:23
Ampelbeinharaldj: I guess it would be nice if the alioth repository has both a Debian and Ubuntu branch to ease working on both packages. The lp-repository is mostly a automatically created/updated repository based on the uploaded packages.18:26
jtaylorlp has deiban and ubuntu branche18:26
jtaylorlp:debian/18:26
haraldjjtaylor: Well but this are imported source package not a normal repository correct?18:29
jtayloryes18:29
jtaylorbut you can host your debian pacakge repository on launchpad if you like18:29
jtaylorprobably also get it mirrored from a remote place18:30
unixpro1970Wondering if someone can recommend a book that demonstrates complete C/C++ code for Message Queues, Async IO, Concurrent Sockets, etc.  I am not talking your typical 1-5 client examples, I am seeking code that handles 10000+ clients, etc.  I am not seeking a framework book like ACE, etc but something like ACE demonstrated without the framework would be ideal.18:30
unixpro1970Topics like Check Pointing, passing file descriptors between processes, etc.  Trying to avoid re-eventing the wheel.18:30
haraldjjtaylor: thanks for the idea but we already host this project on alioth18:30
jtaylorunixpro1970: have a look at zeromq18:31
jtaylorquite low level, but still very easy to use18:31
jtaylorthe guide also is a quite nice learning source18:31
haraldjjtaylor: I'm just not sure how to best deal with the Ubuntu packaging - I was thinking of adding branches to alioth to work on the Ubuntu packages18:32
haraldjjtaylor: For keeping a development history (mainly for the security and sru releases)18:33
jtaylorharaldj: thats how its usually done18:33
jtaylorsee e.g. http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cli-apps/packages/banshee.git18:33
jtaylorif its git branches are easy18:33
haraldjjtaylor: Ok then I will just make branches trying to keep all the changes to Ubuntu packages in VCS :-)18:35
haraldjjtaylor: I just did not want to interfere with any Ubuntu internal processes regarding such a procedure18:36
unixpro1970thanks jtaylor, but zeromq isn't what I am seeking.18:39
jtaylornot? "Message Queues, Async IO, Concurrent Sockets, etc" is pretty much exactly what zmq is18:39
unixpro1970Actually something like zeromq without the framework would be great18:40
jtaylorzeromq has no framework18:40
jtaylorthats what the zero stands for18:40
jtaylorzeromq are just sockets18:40
jtayloron steroids ;)18:40
unixpro1970is zeromq in C/C++18:41
unixpro1970or is it java18:41
jtaylorit has bindings in every language18:41
jtayloror almost18:41
jtaylorI think the core is c++18:41
jtayloror c18:41
unixpro1970Is it open source?18:42
jtayloryes18:42
jtaylorlgpl18:42
unixpro1970thanks, looked at the example and assumed it was java based18:43
unixpro1970actually the more I look at it zeromq seems pretty cool18:44
unixpro1970how does it compare to ace?18:44
unixpro1970Ace is a framework, but is zeromq pretty  popular and well supported?18:45
jtaylorI'm not familiar with ace, but it looks like its higher level18:45
unixpro1970any commercial books on zeromq?18:46
jtaylordon't know, but the guide is good18:47
jtaylorshould be around 200 pages18:47
jtaylorand free18:47
jtaylorgoes into quite good detail on the concepts of designing reliable networks (though its hard for me to judge, I'm not in that field)18:48
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mrkennieI'm looking for a way to get a list of active sessions? I think there was something in gnome 2 using dbus but that has been removed for gnome 3 it seems. Are there other ways to do this?23:16
mrkennieorg.gnome.SessionManager.GetClients I believe it was but no go anymore :(23:17
mrkennieunless I'm barking up the wrong tree because unity is what's being used anyway. Um.23:19
mrkenniesorry, going by the silence and having just read the topic, I got the  wrong channel. My bad.23:21
YokoZarDebian has deprecated defoma, what's the status of defoma in 12.04?23:53

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