[00:19] hallyn: oh, this is from the multiarchification [00:19] hallyn: I'll figure out a fix [00:20] hallyn: (912493) [00:22] kees: thanks [00:43] james_w: just saw your message, fantastic! i'll add that to the blueprint === yofel_ is now known as yofel === ejat- is now known as ejat === udienz__ is now known as udienz [17:48] Hello a quick question from a Debian packager: Does Ubuntu maintain any repositories for packages which are synced from Debian - specifically openswan [18:13] haraldj: You can access any package in Ubuntu via bzr: 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/' [18:17] * haraldj is back. [18:18] Ampelbein: well what does this branch contain? [18:18] Ampelbein: A source package? [18:18] haraldj: Yes, the complete source package. [18:20] Ampelbein: is it updated for new security or SRU releases? [18:22] haraldj: No, that's always the current development package, for other versions, use 'lp:ubuntu// Ampelbein: So there is no need to create seperate Ubuntu Branches in alioth repository for tracking changes in Ubuntu? [18:26] haraldj: I guess it would be nice if the alioth repository has both a Debian and Ubuntu branch to ease working on both packages. The lp-repository is mostly a automatically created/updated repository based on the uploaded packages. [18:26] lp has deiban and ubuntu branche [18:26] lp:debian/ [18:29] jtaylor: Well but this are imported source package not a normal repository correct? [18:29] yes [18:29] but you can host your debian pacakge repository on launchpad if you like [18:30] probably also get it mirrored from a remote place [18:30] Wondering if someone can recommend a book that demonstrates complete C/C++ code for Message Queues, Async IO, Concurrent Sockets, etc. I am not talking your typical 1-5 client examples, I am seeking code that handles 10000+ clients, etc. I am not seeking a framework book like ACE, etc but something like ACE demonstrated without the framework would be ideal. [18:30] Topics like Check Pointing, passing file descriptors between processes, etc. Trying to avoid re-eventing the wheel. [18:30] jtaylor: thanks for the idea but we already host this project on alioth [18:31] unixpro1970: have a look at zeromq [18:31] quite low level, but still very easy to use [18:31] the guide also is a quite nice learning source [18:32] jtaylor: I'm just not sure how to best deal with the Ubuntu packaging - I was thinking of adding branches to alioth to work on the Ubuntu packages [18:33] jtaylor: For keeping a development history (mainly for the security and sru releases) [18:33] haraldj: thats how its usually done [18:33] see e.g. http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cli-apps/packages/banshee.git [18:33] if its git branches are easy [18:35] jtaylor: Ok then I will just make branches trying to keep all the changes to Ubuntu packages in VCS :-) [18:36] jtaylor: I just did not want to interfere with any Ubuntu internal processes regarding such a procedure [18:39] thanks jtaylor, but zeromq isn't what I am seeking. [18:39] not? "Message Queues, Async IO, Concurrent Sockets, etc" is pretty much exactly what zmq is [18:40] Actually something like zeromq without the framework would be great [18:40] zeromq has no framework [18:40] thats what the zero stands for [18:40] zeromq are just sockets [18:40] on steroids ;) [18:41] is zeromq in C/C++ [18:41] or is it java [18:41] it has bindings in every language [18:41] or almost [18:41] I think the core is c++ [18:41] or c [18:42] Is it open source? [18:42] yes [18:42] lgpl [18:43] thanks, looked at the example and assumed it was java based [18:44] actually the more I look at it zeromq seems pretty cool [18:44] how does it compare to ace? [18:45] Ace is a framework, but is zeromq pretty popular and well supported? [18:45] I'm not familiar with ace, but it looks like its higher level [18:46] any commercial books on zeromq? [18:47] don't know, but the guide is good [18:47] should be around 200 pages [18:47] and free [18:48] goes into quite good detail on the concepts of designing reliable networks (though its hard for me to judge, I'm not in that field) === JackyAlcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine === JanC_ is now known as JanC === fenris is now known as Guest60220 === fenris_ is now known as Guest303 === Guest303 is now known as ejat === ejat is now known as fenris === fenris is now known as Guest33989 === Guest33989 is now known as ejat [23:16] I'm looking for a way to get a list of active sessions? I think there was something in gnome 2 using dbus but that has been removed for gnome 3 it seems. Are there other ways to do this? [23:17] org.gnome.SessionManager.GetClients I believe it was but no go anymore :( [23:19] unless I'm barking up the wrong tree because unity is what's being used anyway. Um. [23:21] sorry, going by the silence and having just read the topic, I got the wrong channel. My bad. [23:53] Debian has deprecated defoma, what's the status of defoma in 12.04?