[00:00] <Kimble> I'm pretty sure auto-detection of crossover etc is part of an ethernet spec - the Gigabit spec perhaps?  Perhaps earlier.
[00:00] <za3k> cordyceps: Not sure exactly, probably starting 5-10 years ago?
[00:00] <ejv> im not sure what ubuntu uses to mount directories over ssh, but im guessing something similar to sshfs-fuse
[00:00] <ejv> that or samba are good for accessing content across the cable
[00:00]  * cordyceps I'm so old :(
[00:00] <Loshki> roadfish: if no windows machines are going to be involved, I'd use nfs, else samba...
[00:00] <ironhalik> dunno whats the topic, but 1Gbit ethernet cards do the crossing internally, no need for a crossover cable
[00:00] <roadfish> ejv:ok, sshfs-fuse sounds kinds of good (maybe)
[00:00] <Kimble> cordyceps: would you rather be dead?
[00:00] <cordyceps> sometimes
[00:01] <Kimble> ouch. Today on Trisha...
[00:01] <ejv> i know the wiring in a crossover cable is physically different from it's ethernet brethren.
[00:01] <ejv> fft.
[00:01] <vic> Hello, dropped in to ask if there is a possibility of finding a driver for an AMD RADEON HD 6900 graphics card. Using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Thanks, everyone!
[00:01] <roadfish> hence, the crossover ... some wires are crossed over.
[00:01] <Josh|KilljoyX23> nice card :)
[00:01] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 here. Synaptic doesn't list startup-disk-creator. How do I get it?
[00:02] <Loshki> roadfish: I'd say ssh has far too much overhead on what is essentially a secure link...
[00:02] <ejv> that card is old!
[00:02] <ejv> 7970, cmon fellas get with it
[00:02] <Kimble> ejv: wow, your such a sensitive guy. cordyceps' is probably slitting his wrists right now...
[00:02] <vic> Hope so, Josh. Itºs connected to a widescreen monitor but doesnºt seem to realise this.
[00:02] <za3k> cordyceps: "apt-cache search" suggests you might be thinking of "usb-creator-*".  Are those the same thing?
[00:03] <roadfish> Loshki: ok, so I might get choppy performance (or heavy CPU usage?) if I just want to watch videos. I already did "ssh -X" and, yuck, the video ran slow and got out-of-sync with audio.
[00:03] <ejv> Kimble: do you mean vic ? :)
[00:03] <Phong_> ejv, i do 'sftp 127.0.0.1'  it said connection refused
[00:03] <roadfish> Loshki: I mean that NFS is in and sshfs-fuse is out ... for video watching at least.
[00:03] <cordyceps> za3k: E: Unable to locate package usb-creator
[00:03] <Phong_> something to do with 22??
[00:03] <Kimble> ejv: lol, no, i was referring to cordyceps feeling of "being old".
[00:04] <ejv> Phong_: what's the IP address of the machine you're trying to connect to.
[00:04] <ejv> Kimble: ahh missed that
[00:04] <Phong_> local ip
[00:04] <Loshki> roadfish: agreed. Have you configured an nfs server before?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> cordyceps: usb-creator-gtk
[00:04] <Josh|KilljoyX23> wheres a good resource on beginner ubuntu terminal, or linux line in general?
[00:04] <Phong_> ejv i try to connect locally
[00:04] <ejv> why are you trying to sftp to yourself?
[00:04] <Jordan_U> !manual | Josh|KilljoyX23
[00:04] <Loshki> !manual | Josh|KilljoyX23
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, sounds like your sshd isn't listening on localhost.
[00:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> thank you
[00:05] <Phong_> ejv to test if it work
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:05] <ejv> Josh|KilljoyX23: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz real man's manual.
[00:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> lol thanks EJV
[00:05] <_NiC> Phong_, or connect to the "real" IP.
[00:05] <Phong_> ok
[00:05] <ejv> i used that tutorial like 10 years ago
[00:05] <Phong_> brb
[00:05] <ejv> before ubuntu existed
[00:05] <vic> BUE?
[00:06] <cordyceps> Jordan_U: now we're getting somewhere ;)
[00:06] <Kimble> vic: just like BCE - Before Cars and Electricity.
[00:06] <roadfish> Loshki: nope ... I guess NFS is my next waterhose to drink from ... after learning ssh and eth0 in interfaces file and adjusting firewall settings
[00:06] <ejv> up hill in the snow both ways
[00:06] <ejv> etc etc
[00:06] <vic> Happy times! :)
[00:06] <agentgasmask> Anyone have any hints on getting full graphics with intel graphics on a core i3 laptop? Ubuntu 10.04 x64 LTS
[00:06] <ironhalik> hmm, whats the default nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[00:07] <ironhalik> right after installation?
[00:07] <Xourii> any FPS games for ubuntu? don't have to look fancy
[00:07] <ejv> srsly tho, i had to go to the library to their computer programming section to read up on the latest red hat builds
[00:07] <_NiC> Xourii, unreal tournament? :-)
[00:07] <agentgasmask> ironhalik: Is that to me?
[00:07] <Loshki> roadfish: sounds like you're a quick study. Take a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[00:07] <Kimble> Xourii: Urban Terror 's a good multi-player FPS.
[00:07] <OerHeks> agentgasmask, optimus ?
[00:07] <ironhalik> dunno agentgasmask :)
[00:07] <agentgasmask> Xourii: urban terror
[00:07] <Xourii> _NiC: is that free?
[00:07] <roadfish> Loshki: more like a few night up to 3am or 5am.
[00:07] <ejv> if you want full graphics, you want windows with windows drivers :)
[00:07] <_NiC> Xourii, not really sure.
[00:08] <Xourii> Kimble: I had trouble installing it, because I'm a n00b. xD
[00:08] <vic> ejv: Wind-ezre has too many overheads.
[00:08] <Kimble> Xourii: Urban Terror? Really? Let me take a look...
[00:08] <agentgasmask> ejv: Realy? That's a nice tip...
[00:08] <vic> )I meant Wind-eze"
[00:08] <ejv> yea but at least their driver implementation isn't gimped like in Linux land.
[00:08] <Loshki> roadfish: maybe I can speed you up a bit, if you want to spend the time...
[00:08] <ejv> it's just the way it is right now... don't kill the messenger
[00:08] <Xourii> Kimble: I'm not even sure how to install things like that. It's not them, it's me I think
[00:09] <urlin2u> vic, just for a heads up distorting the windows name is a respect loss even here. :D
[00:09] <za3k> I'm experiencing odd mirrored tty input problems on boot.  They're reproducible but I can't find anyone with the exact problem online.  I don't understand the boot process and have done little customization other than installing packages.  Tips on what to look at next?
[00:09] <Phong_> ejv ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.28 port 22: Connection refused
[00:09] <Kimble> Xourii: according to here - http://www.urbanterror.info/downloads/ - it's very simple.  Have another go. It's a great laugh once you get past being a `noob'.
[00:09] <_NiC> Phong_, is sshd actually running?
[00:09] <agentgasmask> ejv: I'm not trying to kill the messanger, just a little deflated by his news, what with the brand new laptop and all...
[00:10] <vic> urlin2u: Sense of humour won't allow that!
[00:10] <ejv> Phong_: looks like ssh isn't listening properly, restart the daemon, work on it :)
[00:10] <Xourii> Kimble: okay, thanks
[00:10] <Phong_> how
[00:10] <urlin2u> vic, lol I know :)
[00:10] <Phong_> i am noob
[00:10] <Kimble> So, anyone here using ext2 fs compression? just though I'd ask one last time...
[00:10] <ejv> let's be honest, if I'm writing code using CUDA's SDK, I'll probably do it in windows, not in linux.
[00:10] <Phong_> how to restart daemon
[00:11] <vic> Kimble: Not dared to use compression since DOS5 days!
[00:11] <roadfish> Loshki: I guess that I can setup NFS on my "inner" computer that isn't hooked up to the web. That should be a good security measure.
[00:11] <michal__> service restart <name-of-the-deamon>
[00:11] <ejv> because at least I can trust that nvidia has taken care of it's windows developers
[00:11] <Kimble> vic: ugggg. Even _recalling_ DOS makes me feel ill....
[00:12] <vic> Kimble: Tsk! Such graphic disrespect!
[00:12] <ejv> arguably, 'dos' is the reason i'm here. i thought punching commands was super cool.
[00:12]  * ejv shrugs
[00:13] <Phong_> ejv reboot machine???
[00:13] <roadfish> DOS has been a real blight. First attacks PCs in 1980s and then denies internet service.
[00:13] <vic> ejv: Takes a rather good memory to recall alll the various syntaxes!
[00:13] <Loshki> roadfish: I thought you said you have 2 pcs back to back? I agree it would be bad to serve nfs from an exposed machine...
[00:13] <_NiC> did you ever use 4dos? :)
[00:13] <ejv> Phong_: sudo service sshd restart
[00:13] <ejv> Phong_: sudo service ssh restart
[00:13] <vic> _NiC: Wozzat_
[00:13] <vic> ?
[00:13] <Kimble> oh well. if no-one here has experience of ext2 fs compression, Ill bid farewell. :)
[00:14] <vic> Sorry:(
[00:14] <_NiC> vic, dos, just better. different shell, I guess.
[00:14] <ejv> all the time you wasted waiting
[00:14] <Phong_> both of what u sia?
[00:14] <_NiC> had lots of fun with it. :)
[00:14] <ejv> you could have shown us reults at this point
[00:14] <ejv> s/reults/results/g
[00:14] <roadfish> Loshki: yes the PCs are back-to-back. I was just asking about putting NFS on the inner machine as a kind of sanity test ... that I'm thinking straight.
[00:14] <vic> I'm waiting, too! ?
[00:14] <ejv> i still think you should look to the future and accept ext4 as your lord and savior, that or zfs.
[00:14] <Phong_> ejv with ssh or sshd???
[00:15] <Phong_> which 1
[00:15] <vic> I canºt afford to get that much older!
[00:15] <ejv> Kimble left, didnt he/she? i have parts ignored...
[00:15] <_NiC> Phong_, how about you just try and find out?
[00:15] <Phong_> ok
[00:15] <Phong_> brb
[00:15] <ejv> Phong_: the second one, but if you type the first one it will simply say "not found"
[00:16] <_NiC> cat sneezing on my monitors :-\
[00:16] <ejv> cute and gross
[00:16] <roadfish> roadfish: ok thanks, that Community Ubuntu NFS webpage looks good. I'm familiar with these kinds of ideas. But I'll probably start on it tommorow.
[00:17] <ejv> mounting dirs over ssh takes no effort at all if you're *very* lazy roadfish
[00:17] <ejv> gnome integrates it rather well
[00:17] <vic> I know I came here for something - it's just like climbing the stairs!
[00:17]  * ejv prefers the path of least resistance
[00:17] <Loshki> roadfish: best of luck...
[00:17] <Phong_> did both, still cant connect same error
[00:18] <_NiC> Phong_, what happened when you did the start command?
[00:18] <_NiC> err, restart.
[00:18] <Phong_> ok show u brb
[00:18] <ejv> OT: US customers can buy a corsair PSU CX430 v2 for $17 after MIR, just got the announcement in my email... quite a steal :D
[00:18] <aBound> _NiC, hey. :P
[00:19] <_NiC> aBound :)
[00:19] <ejv> anyone here use corsair, thinking about getting a SSD for my new ubuntu box, once new LTS comes out
[00:19] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service ssh restart
[00:19] <ironhalik> how do I make Ubuntu not use nvidia drivers after installation? The default state for me seems to have the 173 binary driver enabled, while the installation uses nouveau
[00:19] <aBound> ejv, I have an Intel SSD 80GB.
[00:20] <ejv> you like it?
[00:20] <Phong_> nic??
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, Yes a long with my quad-core Ubuntu flies.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, yes?
[00:20] <ejv> cool :)
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, I think firefox opens in about 2 to 3 seconds.
[00:20] <ironhalik> the bootsplash bare appears on my corsair m4 ssd :P
[00:20] <aBound> :P
[00:20] <Phong_> i just told u
[00:20] <aBound> ejv, LibreOffice opens in about 5 to 6 seconds.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, I asked what happened.
[00:20] <_NiC> Phong_, i.e. the result of that command.
[00:21] <ejv> nice
[00:21] <ejv> taking a break, need to recharge the batteries
[00:21] <aBound> :-)
[00:21] <ejv> cheerz
[00:21] <_NiC> I have my OS on an SSD too, but can't remember what it is
[00:21] <aBound> Cheers.
[00:21] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sftp 192.168.1.28
[00:22] <aBound> _NiC, Should be able to check from the terminal command: lspci
[00:22] <_NiC> Phong_, uh, no.
[00:22] <Phong_> ?
[00:23] <_NiC> Phong_, that's not the output of the restart command.
[00:23] <Phong_> should i just restart pc????? will help??
[00:24] <Phong_> brb i restart
[00:26] <_NiC> Phong_, that depends on the output of that command.. :-)
[00:27] <_NiC> [    2.823292] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      Corsair CSSD-F60 1.1  PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[00:27] <_NiC> has been working fine so far.
[00:27] <Phong_> nic restart dont help
[00:27] <Phong_> tell me again please
[00:28] <subz3r0> hi all
[00:28] <_NiC> Phong_, if you're not able to tell me what happens when you're asked to run a command, things kindof stop.
[00:28] <Phong_> ok i run for u brb
[00:28] <subz3r0> can someone please tell me where the sound settings are in lubuntu?
[00:30] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service sshd restart
[00:30] <osx> Hola
[00:31] <Phong_> _nic
[00:31] <_NiC> Phong_, how useful do you think it is to show us the same command we asked you to run?
[00:31] <Phong_> hmm
[00:32] <Phong_> cause i dont know
[00:32] <_NiC> Phong_, does anything appear on your screen below that line?
[00:32] <_NiC> Phong_, I assume you did press enter?
[00:32] <Phong_> yes, back to command prompt
[00:33] <_NiC> Phong_, before the new command prompt.
[00:34] <Phong_> phong_@p:~$ sudo service sshd restart
[00:34] <Phong_> that is it
[00:34] <Phong_> not sure what more u need to know
[00:35] <_NiC> so no message that looks like "sshd: unrecognized service"?
[00:35] <testing123321> ?
[00:35] <Phong_> i just did copy n paste for u
[00:35] <Phong_> look
[00:35] <van> anyone using gimp? in photoshop when i select part of a layer and press DEL or cut it just removes part of layer. in gimp it changes color of selected part to the second selected color. how can i remove it liek in photoshop?
[00:35] <_NiC> testing123321, you have successfully typed a question mark on irc. Congratulations?
[00:36] <_NiC> Phong_, you have pasted the command you typed.
[00:36] <acerimmer> !gimp|van
[00:36] <testing123321> How do I chat with someone ?
[00:36] <_NiC> Phong_, I don't care about the command. I care about the result.
[00:36] <subz3r0> how can i select the default audio card on lubuntu?
[00:36] <phatJoe> chazilla rullez
[00:36] <_NiC> testing123321, we're chatting just now. Congratulations.
[00:37] <Phong_> oh ok...well that is the result. the one u type
[00:37] <Phong_> what should i do next?
[00:37] <_NiC> Phong_, ask a friend to help you. I don't think we'll get anywhere.
[00:37] <Phong_> crying
[00:38] <_NiC> It's the middle of the night here, so I'm gonna go get some sleep.
[00:38] <Xourii> is it really possible to put ubuntu on an android phone?
[00:38] <acerimmer> sound
[00:38] <Phong_> ok
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Xourii: It's not something we'd support here at the moment even if it were, so #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to discuss it.
[00:39] <roadfish> van: there is a #gimp channel. but is less active than ##ubuntu
[00:39] <ikonia> #ubuntu-arm maybe
[00:39] <van> roadfish, thank you
[00:43] <rasterizer_> Hello everyone, is there a way to stop overheating of laptop when power cord is plugged in with battery. I am using ubuntu 11.04 with bare bones on dell xps sutdio
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: bare bones ?
[00:44] <rasterizer_> ikona, just have the minimum install
[00:44] <rasterizer_> with unity
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: why are you not using a normal install
[00:44] <ikonia> rasterizer_: with all the things like power managment installed ?
[00:44] <jmscomtech> how do i update my system if it keeps saying needs to install untrusted apps?
[00:45] <jutnux> jmscomtech: Just allow it.
[00:45] <ikonia> jmscomtech: why would you install untrusted applications ?
[00:45] <rasterizer_> ikonia, yes it is
[00:45] <ikonia> rasterizer_: yes it is what ?
[00:45] <jmscomtech> trying to do the update manager and its not giving me option to allow it
[00:46] <jmscomtech> nvm just had to kill jockey-end exit progry
[00:46] <rasterizer_> ikonia, i have the basic install ( normal) not many things
[00:47] <ikonia> rasterizer_: if it's overheating you a probably lacking supported power managment hardware within ubuntu
[00:48] <rasterizer_> i tried google search and somewhere it was advised to use boot option with noacpi
[00:48] <Xourii> is there some kind of hypercam-like screen recording program for ubuntu?
[00:48] <skinnydean> Hello all, I am trying to figure out a problem, I am having with switching users.
[00:49] <gh0strider> does anyone here have any experience with FCEUX nes emulator for ubuntu?
[00:49] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  you should just state the problem and see who knows..
[00:49] <skinnydean> When I swithch the screen goes blank and won't display any login page.
[00:50] <rasterizer_> I want to know what happens if I boot ubuntu with noacpi boot option
[00:50] <ikonia> rasterizer_: try it, see if it helps
[00:50] <skinnydean> I don't know if its a hardware problem or an OS.
[00:51] <rasterizer_> Okay, I will give it a try then
[00:51] <Jeruvy> skinnydean, if it works for one user it's probably not a hardware issue.
[00:51] <skinnydean> This is an issue for all users.
[00:52] <gh0strider> well i am trying to use my keryboard with the GFCE UltraX nes emulator but i can't figure out any of the keys and so i am not really sure how to configure the keyboard because there are no options like on "Snes" oh by the way does anyone here know if you can play NES games on the SNES Emulator so far it has not worked for me...?
[00:52] <rasterizer_> skinnydean, did you do any upgrade recently
[00:52] <ikonia> gh0strider: you cannot
[00:52] <gh0strider> or does anyone here have a good recommendation for a good nes emulator for ubuntu?
[00:53] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  the snes emus dont normally do nes. theres a few multi-machine enumators out there.  i dont know whats in the repos any more.
[00:53] <simpson1897_> 13
[00:54] <skinnydean> yes, how ever this has been happening ever since I got the OS installed.
[00:54] <gh0strider> i found gfce ultrax in the repo's but i can't figure out the keys for it...
[00:55] <gh0strider> gfce ultrax works great for nes games i just can't play them, and i really want to!!
[00:55] <biohazard135> Hey, I installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 11.10 and my laptop trackpad doesn't work. I looked on google (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad) and I know the device id, what do I need to do exactly to get it to work?
[00:55] <gh0strider> hehe =-P
[00:55] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  check its homepage, and perhaps docs in /usr/share/doc/
[00:55] <gh0strider> i checked out the home page...not much help
[00:55] <gh0strider> f.a.q wasn't that good either
[00:56] <dr_willis> there is a gui front end to that emu in the repos i saw just now. may have some remap settings..
[00:56] <dr_willis> !info gfceu
[00:58] <pp7> is there such a thing as a gtk3 theme maker?
[00:58] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  google search here finds --> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100120194830AAkwN12
[00:59] <dr_willis> pp7:  not that ive heard about.
[00:59] <pp7> k :(
[00:59] <dr_willis> gtk3 themes can be a bit complex from what i read.
[00:59] <dr_willis> not just changeing some pixmaps
[00:59] <pp7> yea
[00:59] <pp7> is there a way to do an animated progressbar in gtk3?
[01:00] <gh0strider> dr_willis: i don't think that is for ultrax but thanks for the help anyways
[01:00] <gh0strider> i really appreciate it
[01:01] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  also  http://fceultra.sourceforge.net/fceux-sdl-docs.php#using-keys-gamepad
[01:05] <kristianpaul> Hi all
[01:05] <jenia> hello everyone
[01:05] <kristianpaul> Where i can find more informantion about the plans to have Ubuntu on phones?
[01:05] <jenia> i'm using wireshark and i see that i have some process that is contantly sending packets to some unknwo ip address
[01:05] <jenia> in india and in thailand and something
[01:05] <jenia> small packets and the destination port is unreachable
[01:06] <jenia> does anyone know what is happening?
[01:07] <kah> hey, if i want to cut in my windows and paste in my ubuntu VM what is the shortcut?
[01:07] <kristianpaul> wiki dont show anything yet? :-)  i guess
[01:10] <kah> Any ideas :D
[01:10] <kah> hey, if i want to cut in my windows and paste in my ubuntu VM what is the shortcut?
[01:11] <noahnoah> Hi.  Having some major problems with video drivers.  Running the Ubuntu 11.10 with latest updates.  Tried to install driver updates directly from nvidia.com.  That killed my X.  So I uninstalled, removed them, and then used apt-get to reinstall the nvidia drivers from ubuntu.  Booting into recovery loads everything beautifully.  Booting into "regular" gives me a "Purple screen of death".  I've followed the instructions here
[01:11] <noahnoah> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[01:11] <noahnoah> Can anyone help me sort this out??
[01:11] <dr_willis> would depend on what vm you are using i imagine kah. and if you have the feature enabled.
[01:11] <urlin2u> kristianpaul, might try here. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAxMDY
[01:11] <nuse> i'm tyring to get into unity but applying any kind of theme is a real pain it seems like
[01:11] <kah> im using virtualmachine
[01:11] <em> Did anyone notice that Unity kind of slows down a machine?
[01:11] <kah> virtualbox
[01:11] <kah> oracle
[01:11] <shovell> anyone here play tremulous?
[01:11] <dr_willis> em:  it uses compiz so it takes a bit of power.
[01:11] <kristianpaul> em: yup
[01:12] <dr_willis> kah:  you did check the vbox manual at its homepage?
[01:12] <kristianpaul> em: just try 2d
[01:12] <em> I'm glad that people really like it and it's a well designed thing because if it weren't so popular it would be unfortunate that it also makes your machine slower.
[01:12] <kristianpaul> and kill python ;)
[01:12] <kah> no i didn't... i figured it's such a common thing that it is easier to ask than to find
[01:13] <nuse> i'm trying to give it a chance but i'm already almost over it and its only been a couple hours
[01:13] <kristianpaul> urlin2u: erggh, may be i forgot to price i meant development plans for getting Ubuntu on phones
[01:13] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site has some guides on setting up themes in unity/gnome-shell
[01:13] <kristianpaul> ergh
[01:13] <kristianpaul> sorry
[01:13] <kristianpaul> damn google spam confuse me
[01:14] <kristianpaul> .8
[01:14] <urlin2u> kristianpaul, cool.
[01:14] <Phong_> ejv
[01:14] <Phong_> i got it work
[01:15] <nuse> dr_willis: i've been trying them
[01:15] <Phong_> ejv, it was set to listen to user defind port not 22
[01:15] <Phong_> Lol
[01:15] <kristianpaul> urlin2u: yes thanks
[01:15] <nuse> to no avail
[01:15] <nuse> bbl
[01:15] <rb26> any one who knows how to add desktops effects to XFCE
[01:16] <jmscomtech> um did my install bugg out as in nautilus folders and files all have same icon?
[01:17] <noahnoah> Can anyone help me with my X config problem??
[01:17] <shovell> is there a .ogg codec that doesnt come with ubuntu 11.10?
[01:17] <dr_willis> shovell:  i normally install ubuntu-restricted-extras package and i can play most any file i find.
[01:18] <Ben64> noahnoah: you should never install drivers from nvidia.com
[01:18] <noahnoah> Ben64:  YES, I just learned that the hard way today.  Now I'm stuck...
[01:18] <Ben64> noahnoah: are you on another computer right now
[01:18] <noahnoah> Ben64: Yes
[01:19] <noahnoah> Trusty iMac
[01:19] <Ben64> cool, start ubuntu up in normal mode
[01:19] <osmosis> is it easy to install LVM encryption on a install that was not installed with encryption?
[01:19] <shovell> the game i am playing says http://pastebin.com/cpuR7BMw and i looked i have "libogg0"
[01:19] <shovell> dr_willis, sorry still not used to irc
[01:20] <noahnoah> Ben64:  That will just hang after the GRUB screen
[01:21] <Ben64> noahnoah: what do you mean "hang"
[01:21] <dr_willis> shovell:  could be the game wants a newer version of that lib. not a 'codec'
[01:21] <noahnoah> I get the "purple screen", but no logo.  Then box is un-responsive
[01:21] <dadda> exit
[01:21] <shovell> dr_willis, hmm i have been looking cant find one
[01:22] <dr_willis> or your game install is missing files
[01:23] <dr_willis> tremulous 1.1.0_SVN1117M linux-x86 Dec 13 2008   <------- err.... how did you install this version?
[01:23] <Ben64> noahnoah: have you tried ctrl+alt+f1
[01:23] <noahnoah> Ben64:  Yes.  doesn't work
[01:24] <Ben64> looks like you might have bigger problems than an nvidia driver then
[01:24] <jmscomtech> um just wondering have u actually activadted the nvidia drivers
[01:24] <noahnoah> Wonder if it is a plymouth issue?  (I ran some plymouth fix script someone suggested here.)
[01:24] <shovell> dr_willis,  well i dl'ed the tremulous with ubuntu software center then applied a patch from mercianeriesguilg.com
[01:25] <noahnoah> Yes, I used apt-get install --reinstlal nvidia
[01:25] <sauevaem> test
[01:25] <sauevaem> Hello.
[01:25] <sauevaem> Can someone help me?
[01:25] <rypervenche> sauevaem: What's up?
[01:25] <jmscomtech> oh so u didnt activate using the icon in taskbar then
[01:25] <jmscomtech> ?
[01:25] <Ben64> noahnoah: that's not the correct way to use nvidia drivers either
[01:25] <noahnoah> Ben64: Yes
[01:26] <semitones_tea> hello :)
[01:26] <jmscomtech> u installed a very old driver
[01:26] <shovell> dr_willis, ####### mercianeriesguild.com #########
[01:26] <sauevaem> Just installed amd drivers catalyst 12.1 from amd site. (those from ubuntu repo weren't working)
[01:26] <Ben64> jmscomtech: but the system should still start up, just without X, he has to have some other problem as well
[01:27] <jmscomtech> noahnoah normaly to activate there will be a hardware icon in taskbar to activate and install the drivers
[01:27] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:27] <sauevaem> Everything works fine except
[01:27] <shovell> dr_willis,  sorry that was wrong too
[01:27] <jmscomtech> ben64 no it dopesnt as nuveua is used and hasnt been disabled u get stack at the purple screen which glitchs
[01:28] <jmscomtech> its happend to me once and i learnt my lesson
[01:28] <semitones_tea> bueller?
[01:28] <Ben64> jmscomtech: that shouldn't happen though...
[01:28] <jmscomtech> um noahnoah what happens when u hit alt+f1 or f4?
[01:28] <sauevaem> one error BrokenCount>0
[01:28] <sauevaem> apt-get check
[01:28] <noahnoah> jmscomtech:  Nothing.  But I can get in through recovery
[01:28] <sauevaem> returns  fglrx-amdcccle : Wymaga: fglrx ale nie jest zainstalowany
[01:28] <sauevaem>  fglrx-dev : Wymaga: fglrx ale nie jest zainstalowany
[01:29] <sauevaem> It's polish.
[01:29] <sauevaem> But it says that fglrx isn't installed
[01:29] <glosoli> What problem folks here are trying to solve ?
[01:29] <Ben64> noahnoah: i guess then start in recovery, remove all the nvidia stuff, start back up in normal mode and use the Proprietary Drivers thing to install nvidia
[01:30] <shovell> ever played tremulous?
[01:30] <jmscomtech> ben64: its because in xorg its trying to use both nuveua and the nvidia drivers at same time, if installed the correct way it disables and correctly installs the drivers for nvidia, but nuveua has to be disabled before the nvidia drivers get installed or xorg will forever look up nuveua
[01:30] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:30] <Ben64> jmscomtech: i guess i've never had that problem because i refuse to give up my xorg.conf :)
[01:31] <jmscomtech> yeah happens when u try out stuff
[01:31] <jmscomtech> never apt-get the drivers allways activate the hardware recomended
[01:32] <jmscomtech> its one lesson i learnt the hardway
[01:32] <glosoli> jmscomtech: So that means that most of the time you activate quite out dated drivers, if you use ATI
[01:32] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:32] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:32] <jenia> hello everyone. my internet connection is constantly being used
[01:32] <sauevaem> jmscomech you were asking me?
[01:32] <jenia> do you know how can i find out what process are sending packets?
[01:33] <Blue1> iptraf?
[01:33] <sauevaem> Can someone tell me how to fix this. I'm new to linux but it supposed to be easy one.
[01:33] <Nach0z> iptraf is a great one. iftop and lsof are also good tools to use
[01:34] <glosoli> sauevaem: Pardon me, haven't heard of your problem
[01:34] <Nach0z> sauevaem: yer installing ATI drivers?
[01:34] <dr_willis> shovell:  i would look for the game in a ubuntu ppa or repo. not downloading from some web site
[01:34] <sauevaem> After manual instalation of catalyst 12.1
[01:34] <sauevaem> installation*
[01:34] <Nach0z> sauevaem: don't have a CLUE then. I never got fglrx to work either.
[01:34] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:34] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:34] <dr_willis> !info tremulous
[01:34] <sauevaem> I'v got fglrx not installed error
[01:34] <jmscomtech> glsoli i dont use ati in linux at all
[01:35] <glosoli> sauevaem: What do you call manual that sudo sh amd*.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric ?
[01:35] <jmscomtech> and ati side is a diferent matter intirely
[01:35] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Ah, sorry, my mistake
[01:35] <shovell> dr_willis, i did and the game works it is just one server that i connect to that has .ogg files that it cannot open
[01:35] <sauevaem> glosoli yeah
[01:35] <glosoli> sauevaem: So explain me what went wrong. Reinstalled drivers and ubuntu today.
[01:35] <Ziefin> Can someone help me with drivers for ethernet connection?
[01:36] <glosoli> sauevaem: And everything went fine for me
[01:36] <amaroks> Hello, I install mint-mate, then remove it and now all windows look like windows classic and I dont like it
[01:36] <amaroks> What can I do to have it look as before?
[01:36] <amaroks> only programs windows
[01:36] <xangua> !mint | amaroks
[01:36] <amaroks> I removed it, im on ubuntu
[01:36] <amaroks> No longer mint-mate
[01:36] <glosoli> amaroks: But it's mint problem, not ubuntu.
[01:37] <glosoli> amaroks: We can't give you feedback for Mint toolkits. Try that linuxmint help irc chat
[01:37] <_skpl> sounds more like an ubuntu problem
[01:37] <Ziefin> l
[01:37] <glosoli> amaroks: But you may try using Ubuntu Tweak to set Windows Theme properly :)
[01:38] <semitones_tea> I'm in lubuntu 10.04 -- I like the high resolution of the screen, but words and icons are a little hard to read. Is there a way to make just words and icons bigger? (iirc, 125dpi or something)
[01:38] <Blue1> semitones_tea: yes
[01:38] <jmscomtech> is there anyway to get apps to minimize to tray but it going to tint2 instead?
[01:38] <dr_willis> shovell:  sounds ti me like the server may need some extra map pack then you have to download.
[01:39] <glosoli> jmscomtech: what means "to tint2" ?
[01:39] <noahnoah> OK,  Interesting update.  The problem appears to be Plymouth.  I disabled it for a boot, and everything worked beautifully.  So, now I just need to configure it properl
[01:39] <semitones_tea> Blue1, are you familiar with it? I've tried finding out how online but with no success
[01:39] <Ziefin> does anyone know why ubuntu wont work with the asus P5N32-sli Premium onboard ethernet?
[01:39] <dr_willis> noahnoah:  i tend to disable plymouth and leave it off. :)
[01:39] <shovell> dr_willis, thank you
[01:40] <osmosis> anyone have enigmail working with thunderbird?
[01:40] <jmscomtech> glosoli: tint2 is a minimal bottom bar that allows u to see whats open
[01:40] <noahnoah> dr_willis:  Makes sense.  What do you use for a nice boot?
[01:40] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Gnome Shell ?
[01:40] <noahnoah> One issue is that I have to enter a password to unlock the drive.  With plymouth off, the password shows on the screen for all to see :(
[01:40] <jmscomtech> nope
[01:41] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Sorry for oftopic, never heard of it, do you think it is worth trying ?
[01:41] <jmscomtech> u have to sudo apt-get install tint2 ,  then in startup apps do a name tint2 and command tint2 next time u login ull have a bar on bottom of screen like a dock that shows whats open
[01:41] <dsevil> is anyone familiar with that "degraded raid devices" warning?  i get that and a few seconds later mdstat says everything's fine ( 976759936 blocks [2/2] [UU] )
[01:42] <dannel> +1 for tint2.. makes unity usable
[01:42] <Blue1> semitones_tea: System/Preferences/System Settings/Application Appearence/Icons/Font Size/
[01:42] <dsevil> i'm booting off an ssd so maybe something's being done too fast :-)
[01:42] <jmscomtech> glosoli: its bout 400kb and works nicely
[01:42] <tweet> Hi there!! I tried to do some boot repair stuff... And now I am unable to boot into any kernel of Linux... I see the boot menu but every option gives me error: invalid character `'. error:arch independent elf magic... "linux vmlinuz ..." also gives me the same error
[01:42] <jmscomtech> but like i said cant minimise to taskbar still
[01:42] <glosoli> jmscomtech: It's kinda of a old gnome style panel which showed all tasks ?
[01:43] <jmscomtech> yeah
[01:43] <glosoli> jmscomtech: Ok, thanks for feedback
[01:43] <sauevaem> glosoli: I've got radeon hd 6720. Drivers from ubuntu repo aren't working so I downloaded catalyst from amd site and installed it manually. Now I've got BrokenCount>0 error message.  apt-get check is returning error: fglrx-amdcccle needs fglrx but is not installed (my translation). Update manager tries to uninstall fglrx-dev and fglrx-amdcccle and install driver from ubuntu repo.
[01:43] <dr_willis> noahnoah:  when i have 4+ week uptimes i dont care what the boot screen looks like. :)
[01:43] <glosoli> sauvaem: I know you problem.
[01:44] <acerimmer> tweet: boot repair meaning grub?  reinstall grub
[01:44] <sauevaem> glosoli: Do you know solution?
[01:45] <tweet> acerimmer - I have tried it all.. using chroot from live cd .... every thing
[01:45] <acerimmer> tweet: anything non-standard?  dual-boot/wubi/multiple hdd's/ssd?
[01:47] <tweet> I do have an SSD...I can disable RAID in BIOS and boot in the IDE / AHCI mode ... will that work ?
[01:48] <em> !info jsonrpc
[01:48] <em> is there any python-jsonrpc library in the repos?
[01:48] <acerimmer> tweet: my knowledge stops @ triple booting on a single HDD.  If you have dedicated /home I'd say go it - your user data should be safe in the event of catastrophic failure/reinstallation.
[01:48] <dr_willis> !find jsonrpc
[01:51] <|DM|> hello, how do I monitor all inbound connections to ubuntu?
[01:51] <em> dr_willis: oh great it is in oneiric but not in Natty then?
[01:51] <Ziefin> wireshark
[01:51] <tweet> acerimmer: I have dual boot, Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 - both 64 bit .. both have separate data partitions (/home for ubuntu)...
[01:52] <Farnaby> I have to say, after being forced to upgrade firefox to 9.01 while running the 10.4 (I am a sucker for LTS) it has gone to pot. Useable but terrible.
[01:52] <|DM|> ziefin well that is the obvious solution, I meant something inbuilt.
[01:53] <xangua> fx 9 already came to Official lts updates Farnaby ¿¿
[01:54] <Farnaby> I know xangua, I just get terrible performance out of it now that the upgrade landed on me today.
[01:54] <acerimmer> tweet: so boot WAS working at one point, yes?  If so, I can't grok why a grub re-installation wouldn't work...  sorry, but idk.  Unless you CHANGED grub on re-installation?
[01:56] <tweet> acerimmer: Yes, it has been working... for the last few days I was unable to update the booth menu thought the grub.cfg was updated... I was wondering why. Then boot-repair or grub customizer screwed it up for me
[01:58] <acerimmer> tweet: frustrating.  check with #grub
[01:58] <Kimble> Hey. What's the simplest way of setting up a Drop Box (ie. writable by all, readable only by the owner) on Ubuntu that can be accessed acros my LAN?  All connecting machines run OS X.
[01:58] <dr_willis> Kimble:  samba  perhaps.
[01:59] <dr_willis> not sure what features OS-X has if it can do nfs, or other ways.
[01:59] <hceylan> #jmeter
[02:00] <Kimble> dr_willis: actually, not entirely sure myself.  Samba's a definite yes; NFS is also ( I just checked).
[02:00] <tweet> acerimmer: yes it has been frustrating.. thanks fr your suggestion... I will go over to grub
[02:00] <luwei> hello everyone
[02:00] <acerimmer> luwei: nihao
[02:01] <Kimble> luwei: konichiwa
[02:01] <Kimble> acerimmer: how'd you like your kippers?
[02:02] <acerimmer> Kimble: smoked and with my breakfast tea, please.
[02:02] <Kimble> I assume NFS is built-in to Ubuntu as standard, and wouldn't require any installs, right?
[02:02] <Kimble> acerimmer: ^_^
[02:02] <victor__> hola
[02:04] <Kimble> victor__: que tal?
[02:04] <victor__> que paso
[02:04] <victor__> que haces?
[02:05] <victor__> kimble
[02:05] <acerimmer> !sp|victor
[02:05] <h00k> !es | victor__
[02:05] <urlin2u> !es | victor__
[02:10] <DylanJ> I did an update just now and now my ubuntu doesn't recognize my thinkpad l420's display anymore. I'm just getting 1024x768 and 800x600.
[02:10] <DylanJ> Wat do?
[02:11] <DylanJ> latest ubuntu.
[02:11] <acerimmer> DylanJ: what kind of graphics card??
[02:11] <DylanJ> working fine for the last month +
[02:11] <DylanJ> acerimmer: sandy bridge ~_~ intel i3
[02:12] <Farnaby> Ok, this is reaching the point of unacceptable. A page taht used to take less then a second to load is now taking close to 15 seconds to load. I guess its time tomove over to Chromium even though I didn't like it hte last time I liked it.
[02:13] <dr_willis> i use chrome all the time these days. havent used ff in ages. :)
[02:14] <alexandre> bonsoir a tous
[02:14] <alexandre> et vive ubuntu
[02:15] <acerimmer> !fr|alexandre
[02:15] <mango> last little while FF has been updating ALL the time..no improvement
[02:15] <Farnaby> sadly.... chrome isn't working much better. I guess its more then just firefox.... Great, I am going to have digger
[02:15] <dr_willis> cant really comment on ff at all :) been ages.
[02:16] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  as a test try opera? how about a ping test. could be some slow dns resolving going on.
[02:16] <alexandre> yes fr
[02:16] <mango> opera's been hit and miss for me, havent used it in awhile though
[02:16] <alexandre> ok thank
[02:17] <Farnaby> dr_willis ping google.com is returning times in the 80 ms range. Not phenomonal but acceptable.
[02:17] <dr_willis> was usong opera for a while.because i also had it on my phone. but to many little issues.. and the extras features it had. were things i did not need
[02:17] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  how about the initial ping whenit looks up the name/ip#? vs just pinging the ip#
[02:19] <sontek> after an update my ubuntu machine now just boots up to a busybox prompt that says (initramfs)
[02:19] <sontek> any ideas?
[02:19] <dr_willis> sontek:  anything happen befor it started doing this? Power failure? failed updates?
[02:20] <Farnaby> dr_willis about the same sadly.
[02:20] <Farnaby> I should have looked a little closer at what the updates were this morning I suspect
[02:20] <sontek> dr_willis: not anything that comes to mind, definitely could have had some failed updates or something but nothing I noticed
[02:20] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  could be some other network congestion going on. hard to trouble shoot stuff like this at times.
[02:20] <acerimmer> sontek: kernel update will do that sometimes.  try booting an earlier kernel - should have a choice when teh grub menu boots.
[02:20] <dr_willis> tap the shift key to make the grub menu appear if its hidding by default.
[02:21] <sontek> acerimmer: I don't have an older kernel option
[02:21] <sontek> its actually weird, the design of the grub prompt says debian now
[02:21] <agu10^> Help
[02:21] <acerimmer> :~
[02:21] <sontek> the list still has ubuntu as the option
[02:21] <sontek> just the grub gui is debian
[02:21] <dr_willis> sontek:  you have more then 1 linux installed?
[02:21] <bagels> I'm in the root and disk and admin groups.  Why can't I see my NTFS and FAT filesystems so that I can mount them? How do I set the to auto-mount?
[02:21] <dr_willis> !ask | agu10^
[02:21] <Farnaby> If its jsut some other network congestion then I am a bit surprised honestly my phone is running pretty quickly ont he smae wifi just now
[02:21] <sontek> dr_willis: nope, this machine has been only running debian since november
[02:21] <agu10^> Panic ocurred when installinh
[02:21] <Farnaby> sontek ubuntu is debian based
[02:21] <bagels> I try reading the documentation on the websites and it's all gibberish to me
[02:22] <dr_willis> sontek:  so... when did you install ubuntu?
[02:22] <sontek> dr_willis: its prompts are still "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic"
[02:22] <agu10^> Im from the phone
[02:22] <cgfree> hi is there anyone who could help me with mounting my iphone3g on ubuntu 10.04 - it is recognized with lsusb, i have followed many guides but still im not sure what im doing wrong
[02:22] <sontek> dr_willis: November
[02:22] <agu10^> When running 11.10 live cd. Panic ocurred
[02:22] <sontek> Farnaby: I know, but usually the grub prompt is customized to be ubuntu... and it used to be
[02:22] <dr_willis> sontek:  its odd that theres not several kernel versions in the grub menus.  Seems to be a updated kernel about every month.
[02:23] <Farnaby> I think there were about 6-8 in 2011
[02:23] <dr_willis> sontek:  so what release of ubuntu are you using?
[02:23] <xangua> cgfree: the only way you could mount it on Lucid are 1.using an older iOS version 2. Jail break it
[02:23] <sontek> dr_willis: the one that came with unity
[02:23] <sontek> dr_willis: don't remember the version
[02:24] <agu10^> panic' before even booting
[02:24] <bagels> I'm in the root and disk and admin groups.  Why can't I see my NTFS and FAT filesystems so that I can mount them? How do I set the to auto-mount?
[02:24] <dr_willis> the last 2 releases had unity. :)
[02:24] <Farnaby> agu10` eject the cd?
[02:24] <cgfree> xangua - i dont beleive that to be true. i have had it functional on my desktop, and i remember there was something i had to edit i think an fstab or something to tell ubuntu to auto mount if present and if not do nothing
[02:24] <Farnaby> might just be a bad a burn
[02:24] <acerimmer> agu10^: bad iso.  did you sumcheck that cdrom??
[02:24] <dr_willis> agu10^:  could be a badly burnt cd/iso file/ or currupted iso download. double check the md5's of theiso file befor burning it.
[02:24] <agu10^> No vd. Pendrrive. I tried manu times
[02:24] <acerimmer> agu10^: still need to check
[02:24] <agu10^> Ok
[02:25] <dr_willis> agu10^:  and/or try some differnt tools at pendrivelinux site to make the usb drive
[02:25] <agu10^> Ok
[02:25] <dr_willis> I think some of those tools can auto-check the md5 when it downloads theiso
[02:25] <xangua> cgfree: and when was that¿¿ when lucid came out¿
[02:25] <Farnaby> never had any luck with pendrives the few times I used them for an entire CD but that was back when I was in college
[02:25] <agu10^> How do i check md5?
[02:25] <dr_willis> !md5
[02:26] <cgfree> xangua, hmmm may have been a whiiile - lol
[02:27] <Farnaby> I <3 bots
[02:27] <xangua> cgfree: well when lucid came out, it coud manage latest iOS version at the time, then iOS updated and it could no more; and the history repeats with every ubuntu/iOS release
[02:29] <Farnaby> xangua: that is one of the reasons I have for keeping my mac mini around.
[02:30] <Farnaby> Now this makes me laugh, a text only page laods slower then youtube. Thats bizarre.
[02:31] <cgfree> xangua, somehow we have to teach the "haves" to unite with the "have-nots" so that maybe perhaps we could co-inhabit this planet and share the "technology" which we have founded together --- also to remind everyone, these "technologies" were not sought after for the mere purpose of greedy corporate money miners, these "technologies" were developments from trial and error to improve the quality of human existance
[02:31] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  perhaps test with a live cd - see if the network is still slow. that would point to it being an isp issue. or other issue not a setting on your machine problem.
[02:31] <Farnaby> dr_willis I am going to go one better actually and test with a whole other machine on the same network
[02:32] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  yep. could be some quirky issue on your lan also.. dog chewed on the cat5 :)
[02:33] <jmscomtech> damn my updates aint working was doing updates then had blackout and now the updates hangs on applying changes and not downloading updates help
[02:33] <Farnaby> Dr_willis I hope its not that, since I have never seen him!
[02:33] <githelp> Hi all i am tryingi to install git on Ubuntu and I have followed this guide so far: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git and supplemented it with this: http://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-easy-and-secure-way. however i cannot get past the "git clone" part. it keeps prompting me for a password. any help there?
[02:34] <Farnaby> could be the girlfriend though, I think she tripped over a cable somewhere last week and I haven't been homemuch
[02:34] <g0kul> githelp, you have to add your ssh key
[02:34] <githelp> g0kul: i already did that
[02:35] <cgfree> xangua, so even with the use of ifuse and its libs theres no possible way to do it with ubuntu 10.04? ...is it possible with the newer releases?
[02:35] <dr_willis> !info ifuse
[02:35] <cgfree> ?
[02:35] <dr_willis> its in the newer releases. :) at least.. no idea if it works..
[02:35] <g0kul> then there is something wrong with the way you did, it works everytime. Are you cloning the public pull url
[02:35] <jmscomtech> how do i perform the update manager in termn so i can see whats happening?
[02:36] <acerimmer> jmscomtech: sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  could use the cli tools.. 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[02:36] <jmscomtech> is it install updates or upgrades?
[02:36] <dr_willis> jmscomtech:  both...
[02:36] <jmscomtech> update buy itself just updates the sources
[02:36] <xangua> cgfree: i have no idea if latest ubuntu supports latest iOS, don't even know neither care what iOS current version is; go to convince apple to Share tecnology XD
[02:37] <githelp> g0kul: i am trying this: git clone gitosis@yourserver.com:gitosis-admin.git
[02:37] <dr_willis> update - gets the latest listing..upgade. does theactual new installing
[02:37] <jmscomtech> ok so its upgrade
[02:37] <dr_willis> you must update, befor you upgrade.. (normally)
[02:37] <dr_willis> if you want to be totally up to date
[02:37] <jmscomtech> ahh was afraid the upgrade was gona upgrade me to the 12.04
[02:37] <dr_willis> you are confused about what upgade means.
[02:37] <dr_willis> :)
[02:37] <acerimmer> jmscomtech: no before it's release
[02:38] <Farnaby> I prefer clean installs personally :)
[02:38] <dr_willis> apt-get upgrade wont upgrade to thenext release
[02:38] <Farnaby> the mac is running faster then this box (on older hardware) but still slow to a degree
[02:38] <acerimmer> Farnaby: i like my installs like I ... nevermind
[02:38] <dr_willis> neither will a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <jmscomtech> so do i , oh so dist-upgrade is what upgrades to next distro?
[02:38] <Farnaby> lol acerimmer
[02:38] <jmscomtech> oh ?
[02:38] <dr_willis> jmscomtech: no it wont. :)
[02:38] <jmscomtech> im geting confused now lol
[02:39] <Farnaby> I might just let this sit until tomorrow when I am not drinking beer
[02:39] <dr_willis> its just a deeper more intensive upgrade ofheld back packages
[02:39] <jmscomtech> its what happens when u change from mandriva
[02:39] <g0kul> githelp, i thought it would be like git@yourserver.com:gitosis-admin.git
[02:39] <dr_willis> every so often i see a kernel package thats held back, or driver packages.
[02:39] <dr_willis> there are speicfic tools to upgrade to the next release.
[02:40] <rocketfish2> be nice and ban testteed -- > [20:38] <testteed> Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC www.4xdcc.info
[02:40] <jmscomtech> ok thanks for info dr_willis just i like to know whats happening during updates and the gui doesnt help
[02:40] <rocketfish2> thanks
[02:40] <Besa> Hello
[02:40] <githelp> g0kul: no the guide i referenced said that the user that was installed would be gitosis, the user git does not exist in /etc/passwd
[02:40] <rocketfish2> thanks
[02:40] <acerimmer> Besa: hye
[02:40] <rocketfish2> that user is spamming users as they enter
[02:40] <rocketfish2> [20:38] <testteed> Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC www.4xdcc.info
[02:40] <rocketfish2> oops
[02:40] <FloodBot1> rocketfish2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <Besa> I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop remix 10.10 on my Samsung netbook, but I don't know what to do next
[02:41] <Farnaby> besa where are you at with it?
[02:41] <rocketfish2>  http://pastebin.com/awgrAY6f <--- dmesg
[02:41] <rocketfish2> help , usb drive rocketfish 3.5 external usb drive can be used by windows and mac, but not linux. linux sees the hard ware and even a usb flash drive plugged into the rocketfish external drive, but accessing the drive fails.
[02:41] <dr_willis> Besa:  You may want to just use the latest ubuntu release 11.04 -
[02:41] <xangua> Besa: 10.10 is out of support in a couple of months, are you sure is that the ubuntu version you want¿
[02:41] <rocketfish2> the latest is 11.10
[02:41] <almoxarife> i second rocketfish2
[02:41] <Besa> I couldn't find a netbook remix for that version
[02:41] <rocketfish2> ok almoxarife
[02:41] <Besa> and I'm kinda new at this
[02:42] <xangua> !une | Besa
[02:42] <dr_willis> Besa:  because there is no longer a 'netbook' edition.
[02:42] <g0kul> githelp, the link you refered says to create a user git
[02:42] <antimatroid1> do any of you own a mac book pro? do you just leave osx on it or deal with the reduced battery life?
[02:42] <githelp> g0kul: that is the second link, i did not use that primarily i used that supplementally
[02:42] <antimatroid1> i got given one for free, but i'm really hating osx
[02:42] <dr_willis> the unity interface is the default :) so the desktop and netbook interfaces are the same
[02:42] <Farnaby> At this point besa I would go with 11.10 in your shoes.
[02:43] <Besa> Will it give me any trouble with finding drivers and such?  I'm brand new to Linux...don't know any bash commands...
[02:43] <dr_willis> Besa:  thats all the same..
[02:43] <Farnaby> besa, should be close to working out of the box at the very least.
[02:43] <Farnaby> bbiab
[02:43] <dr_willis> test it out on a live usb and see what works.
[02:43] <antimatroid1> also, why is there such a large reduction in battery life from running ubuntu? does it just use more resources?
[02:43] <flowerpot> Besa, try a live CD
[02:44] <Besa> It's just that the installer is asking "who are you", the progress bar says "ready when you are", but the "forward" button is greyed out and I can't see any other way to continue
[02:44] <Besa> the netbook doesn't want to boot from usb cd drive
[02:44] <dr_willis> antimatroid1:  the hw makers often dont release specs for the proper power optimaztions. and theres beensome kenel power bugs lately also.
[02:44] <Besa> so I'm using a flash drive
[02:44] <flowerpot> Can you alter its BIOS?
[02:44] <Besa> I did
[02:44] <flowerpot> So you can't boot from CD or USB even if you specify it in the BIOS
[02:44] <g0kul> githelp, could you try this git://yourserver.com/gitosis-admin.git
[02:44] <Besa> it doesn't recognize a bootable CD on my USB optical drive as a bootable device
[02:44] <antimatroid1> dr_willis: i knew this mac was a terrible idea, oh well
[02:44] <Besa> NO I'm booted from USB flash drive now
[02:44] <flowerpot> Besa, waht about a regular CD?
[02:44] <flowerpot> Besa, oh
[02:45] <Besa> but it won't do it for the optical drive
[02:45] <antimatroid1> it's hard to say no to free :P
[02:45] <Besa> and being a netbook, does not have one built in
[02:45] <dr_willis> antimatroid1:  hopefully in 12.x they will get fixed up..
[02:45] <agu10^> Besa, its not easy like windows or mac, but u can hack it to make it work
[02:45] <flowerpot> Besa, so the problem you're having is that when you attempt to install Ubuntu, you reach a point in the process where you can't see how to proceed due to grayed out button?
[02:45] <Besa> yes
[02:45] <Besa> that's all
[02:45] <flowerpot> Besa, can you give us a screenshot?
[02:45] <gmr_> Hoping someone can help me out, I have a 11.10 server install, trying to get things setup and am having trouble adding an eth0:0 alias. It seems that service networking stop/start/restart doesn't work, I believe I have the config correct (https://gmr.privatepaste.com/64a38a3706) and if I reboot the server, eth0 comes up but eth0:0 does not.
[02:45] <Besa> erm...how?
[02:46] <Besa> it's kinda in the middle of installing an operating system...
[02:46] <dr_willis> i dident even think 10.10 had the netbook edition. :) but i may be getting version #'s wrong
[02:46] <rocketfish2> almoxarife: what are you finding ?
[02:46] <acerimmer> gmr_: just in case #ubuntu-server
[02:46] <Besa> 10.10 was the latest I could find with a netbook version
[02:46] <Besa> I'm talking about this on my desktop
[02:46] <Besa> with the netbook in my lap
[02:46] <dr_willis> Besa:  id dump 10.10 and go with 11.04 -  theres no reason to use 10.10
[02:46] <gmr_> thanks acerimmer
[02:46] <g0kul> githelp, also try ssh gitoasis@yourserver.com
[02:47] <dr_willis> its not really worth the trouble fighting with 10.10 to get it installed.
[02:47] <rocketfish2> any one know how to get linux to work with a usb 3.5 rocketfish ?
[02:47] <Besa> well great...so now I reformat this partition again
[02:47] <githelp> g0kul: both failed
[02:47] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  plug it in. chedk dmesg output. mount it by hand perhaps.
[02:47] <Besa> *mutters darkly* =P
[02:47] <rocketfish2>  http://pastebin.com/awgrAY6f <--- dmesg
[02:47] <dr_willis> Besa:  formating a hd should take just a few moments...
[02:47] <rocketfish2> help , usb drive rocketfish 3.5 external usb drive can be used by windows and mac, but not linux. linux sees the hard ware and even a usb flash drive plugged into the rocketfish external drive, but accessing the drive fails.
[02:47] <agu10^> Ubuntu still sucks :'(
[02:48] <rocketfish2> oops
[02:48] <FloodBot1> rocketfish2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <dr_willis> agu10^:  demand a refund...
[02:48] <Besa> I know
[02:48] <rocketfish2> that was the dmesg output dr_willis
[02:48] <dr_willis> or state a actual support question.
[02:48] <agu10^> Yea i should. All the lost time
[02:48] <Besa> just sick of the circles I've been going in
[02:48] <Besa> lemme go get the iso for 11.10 and I'll be back
[02:48] <g0kul> githelp, follow some other guide, i dont really know the internals
[02:49] <rocketfish2> what do you make of it dr_willis ?
[02:49] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: i have yet to find any one who is not completely mystified by this
[02:50] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  not sure about the 'offline device' messages. does 'sudo fdisk -l' show the drive?
[02:50] <githelp> g0kul: im asking on the git channel, thanks for the help tho
[02:50] <flowerpot> Besa, regarding screenshots, you can just take a pic with your cell phone or something and then upload it for us.
[02:50] <flowerpot> Besa, but they're right - you should use a more recent version anyway.
[02:50] <rocketfish2> ill check dr_willis , it does show up in dick utility though.
[02:50] <urlin2u> flowerpot, they are gone
[02:50] <flowerpot> If you use a more recent version, the chances of it  succeeding install will go up.
[02:50] <flowerpot> urlin2u, you're right :(
[02:51] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  if you can tell its /dev/sdXX  you can try mounting it by hand.
[02:51] <urlin2u> flowerpot, the tabs always tells. :D
[02:51] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  could be the auto monting subsystem is just confuised
[02:51] <urlin2u> *tab
[02:51] <gmr_> anyone able to look at the paste and let me know if I'm just missing something extremely obvious?
[02:52] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/sbe0fJmq fdisk -l output
[02:53] <rocketfish2> gparted will not acknowledge it while dick utility does
[02:53] <gms> testteed please dont spam me.
[02:53] <dr_willis> rocketfish2: from that out put - the device is not being seen at all..
[02:53] <rocketfish2> gparted will not acknowledge it while dick utility does dr_willis
[02:53] <rocketfish2> disk^
[02:53] <hugenumbers> haha
[02:53] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: i can plug a flash drive into it and have total access of the flash drive without trouble
[02:54] <dr_willis> somthing weird with that HD/controller/cable/usb port -- perhaps..
[02:54] <Farnaby> dr_willis its looking like you might have been right calling network boogeymen. I checked the physical aspects of the lan and they were all fine, the girlfriend calls, I come back and now things are running much smoother.
[02:54] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  gremlins.. :)
[02:54] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: the hard drive works fine under windows and mac
[02:54] <acerimmer> Farnaby: girlfriend hack
[02:54] <Farnaby> gotta love em. They were some long lasting gremlins though, close to 10 hours worth
[02:55] <Farnaby> stupid comcast
[02:55] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  test with a live cd/differnt disrto perhaps. fdisk -l should be showing it  - if the system sees it.
[02:55] <Farnaby> and acerimmer with her I wouldn't be surprised.... she has a touch of death when it comes to technology
[02:55] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  or linux saw some error/issue and disconected the device
[02:55] <rocketfish2> i did, same issue i tried 11.04 , then upgraded (compelte wipe and install) to 11.10 , then opensuse 12.1 live CD, all failed
[02:56] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[02:56] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  a unplug/plug in, and check of dmesg, and fdisk -l. might show it... if it then vanishes.. well  thats a clue at least.
[02:56] <Farnaby> I need to mess around with a livecd of 11.10 and see whether I actually like unity or not
[02:56] <rocketfish2> i was a 11.04 user earlier today
[02:56] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[02:56] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  also you may want to test with a totally differnt disrto like TinyCoreLinux - see if that detects it properly.
[02:56] <Farnaby> lol and now FF is back to running slow
[02:57] <Farnaby> whatever I guess, its not a problem to be solved tonight
[02:57] <rocketfish2> only once after a freeze and then a reboot of setting the usb delay_use to 5 did it almost show up in the file manager ... i set it to 10 after that, and then backl to 5 and it seems to have been a fluke dr_willis
[02:58] <yeats> rocketfish2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782546 may have some helpful suggestions
[02:58] <rocketfish2> why tiny core ? i burned and ran a live DVD of opensuse because a forum some place had a psot that said opensuse did not have that issue.. dr_willis
[02:58] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  because tinycore is 10mb download..
[02:58] <dr_willis> :)
[02:59] <dr_willis> if suse worked.. but ubuntu not - points to some driver/kernel/issue then.
[02:59] <rocketfish2> thanks dr_willis, this will be the 4~5 time i have read thgat same page
[02:59] <dr_willis> so its being narrowed down to ubuntu specific issues..
[03:00] <rocketfish2> nice dr_willis
[03:00] <dr_willis> another 'test' would be to see if the 12.x alpha has the same issue. if so - definatly file a bug report on it.  So hopefully it will get looked into and fixed in the next rlease
[03:01] <rocketfish2> well thanks dr_willis... you seem as lost of every other person who attempted to resolve this oddity.   and no opensuse failed as well while windows and mac os x have no troubles
[03:01] <yeats> !attitude | rocketfish2
[03:01] <dr_willis> If suse failed = that would point to a kernel issue/driver bugs.
[03:01] <rocketfish2> perhaps i will switch to windows for a while
[03:01] <dr_willis> which is beyond the fixing of most people.
[03:02] <cheese1756> Hi. Does anyone have any experience using Ubuntu and LMMS with a MIDI keyboard?
[03:02] <rocketfish2> hay yeats, lay off, i said nothing offencive :[
[03:02] <cheese1756> In this case, an Akai MPK61
[03:02] <dr_willis> So testing with 12.x may still be worth while. to see if the isue has been fised in a newer kenel
[03:02] <dr_willis> assuming its a kernel issue
[03:02] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: , well, i could b urn another live CD, i have almost ten now :D
[03:03] <dr_willis> i got a stack of perhaps 300 from over the years rocketfish2
[03:03] <dr_willis> I tend to use usb flash drives these days
[03:03] <kalgecin> dr_willis, +1
[03:03] <dr_willis> set up grub2 on a flash to boot iso files.. makes it a lot easier.
[03:04] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  what can you make of the suggested alteration of 80-udisks.rules . i was not willing to take a forum post at face value and risk dammaging my linux..
[03:05] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  when in doubt.. backup the file you are changeing.  It is weurd that the disk utuity is seeing the device. but fdisk is not. it could be  one is waiting longer for the device to get ready.
[03:05] <rocketfish2> the only flash drive i have is set up to restore grub for me :)
[03:05] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  could try it and see is all i can suggest.
[03:05] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:
[03:05] <Kimble> I got a pm spam from "testteed" the minute I joined this channel???
[03:06] <dr_willis> the 'disk utilty' tool can mount drives cant it? i dont recall ever using it.
[03:06] <Farnaby> Is there a dedicated backup utility baked into unity?
[03:06] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  not really.
[03:06] <Kimble> Anyway, anyone willing to help me troubleshoot my NFS setup?
[03:06] <yeats> Kimble: ask away
[03:06] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: well, i have taken on linux troubles before and foun d myself spending weeks trouble shooting relentlessly. i am n ot so determind any more... my other project is getting osx86 installed on this machine.
[03:07] <Farnaby> thats kinda wat I figured.... thats something that I know is stopping some people from thinking different and leaving OSX (even though I know two people who don't even use time machine despite advocating its benefits)
[03:07] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  the disk utility sees it and the 2 card readers it has. it rteports the drive empty and when i attempt to partition it, it reports that it does not exist
[03:07] <Kimble> Thanks yeats .  I've installed all packages just minutes ago, and prepared a /etc/exports file.  NFSd is running. Am I missing anything?
[03:08] <Farnaby> rocketfish2 thats a good attitude. So long as I have one computer that is running more or less flawlessly I don't stress the details too much about the other ones. Not worth losing sleep over.
[03:08] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  i wonder if thers not some deeper issues that windows and osx are just overlooking/not reporitng  when they see the empty disk. You could try partionong it from osx - i THINK osx has tools to make linux parititons
[03:08] <Kimble> the export file contains one line: /home/user/folder <ip-range>(options)
[03:09] <rocketfish2> Farnaby: yeah. i have windows 7 and linux on the hard drive and i am working on mac os x on the rocketfish. so far it installs, starts booring, then fails and retarts..
[03:09] <yeats> Kimble: it should be as simple as restarting nfs-kernel-server and mounting on the clients?
[03:09] <Farnaby> dr_willis its supposed to but I never tried it myself
[03:09] <rocketfish2> Farnaby: so long as one of them do what i require, i trust linux the most though. windows the least, its only there to run somehting once in a while to save time
[03:10] <dr_willis> ive found it pays to keep things as simple as possible when working with pcs and hard disks. :)
[03:10] <Farnaby> The only reason I have a windows computer is because its my work machine and that requires some tools that only work in XP of all things
[03:10] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  no, mac os x and windows see the hard drive as it is, partitioned .
[03:10] <Kimble> yeats: that's what I'd hoped. Maybe I'm doing something wrong on the client side. hang on...
[03:10] <dr_willis> rocketfish2:  you said it was empty earlier.. its been partioned by OS-X for a OS-X install?
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  they treat it as if it exists and allow full access to partition and create and distroy data on it.
[03:11] <Farnaby> I have ... 2 old computers running various versions of windows too I guess. They are in a closet somewhere
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis:  disk utility reprts it empty
[03:11] <[[thufir]]> how do you know which sound driver you use?
[03:11] <Farnaby> rocketfish this is almost sounding like a permission error
[03:11] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: the linux disk utility. mac os x and windows and partition and fully use it
[03:11] <dlentz> [[thufir]], lspci -vv
[03:12] <rocketfish2> and=can^
[03:12] <dr_willis> i wonder what kind of partiton table it has.. and if that might be confuseing things..
[03:13] <dwon> testteed is spamming people who join the channel with "Find movies, music, games, applications and more using IRC"
[03:13] <Farnaby> you still have that pastebin around somewhere rocketfish?
[03:13] <rocketfish2> ok , well its time for me to go, i have spent well over enough time on this problem, thanks dr_willis
[03:13] <Farnaby> dr_willis thats a possibility
[03:13] <rocketfish2> dr_willis: it is a MBR
[03:13] <Kimble> dwon: yeah, I got that too. Can someone chuck him?
[03:13]  * rocketfish2 is gone
[03:13] <dr_willis> fdisk i think does not support the newer partionong table stuff..
[03:13] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: Kernel driver in use: pata_sis  so pata_sis is my sound driver?
[03:13] <Farnaby> Should support a MBR though
[03:14] <dlentz> no, you need yto fin the entry for the audio driver
[03:14] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  pata sounds like a hard drive controller to me.
[03:14] <[[thufir]]> yeah, it was in the section on sound.  I'll look again.
[03:14] <dr_willis> and sis is a chipset maker. :)
[03:14] <Geeeeee> can someone please help me, i kind of ruined my computer D:
[03:14] <Kimble> yeats: My Mac fails to find the mount.  Using Disk Utility, I enter the address as follows: nfs://IPaddress/home/user/share
[03:14] <dr_willis> soit could be some odd sis sound card/chipset...
[03:15] <Kimble> yeats: oh, d'oh!  Firewall!  What's the NFS ports?
[03:15] <yeats> Kimble: I don't think I'll be much help with a Mac, sorry ...
[03:15] <[[thufir]]> my bad:  	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0   sounds more promising.  I paged up too much.  so that's module to probe?
[03:15] <dlentz> yes
[03:15] <Geeeeee> Has anyone figured out a way to fix the overheating problem with 11.10 on laptops?
[03:16] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  theres known power-saveing bugs in the kernel/latest release. some fix's depend on the exact make laptop.
[03:16] <dr_willis> some laptops dont have issues.
[03:16]  * dr_willis hopes the 12.x release fixs most issues
[03:16] <Farnaby> there is also a kernal fix for some
[03:16] <Geeeeee> Well ubuntu just fried my laptop, and now i can't do anything
[03:17] <dlentz> [[thufir]], are you having an ufio issue?
[03:17] <dlentz> *audio
[03:17] <[[thufir]]> aha.  so if I "sudo modprobe  snd-intel8x0"  and nothing happens, just get prompt again, that means sound driver isn't installed?
[03:17] <kokolu> hello friendsa
[03:17] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: used to have sound, not anymore.  I suspect OS/software
[03:17] <Geeeeee> Do the older versions of ubuntu overheat?
[03:17] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  command line common practice.. dont print messages on success :)
[03:18] <cheese1756> Hi kokolu
[03:18] <dlentz> if lspci tolf you the module is loaded, then it isloaded
[03:18] <cheese1756> Geeeeee, Most likely, yes
[03:18] <Geeeeee> Sadface...
[03:18] <dlentz> modprobe returns nothing if it is successful
[03:18] <cheese1756> It's worth a shot to google around, though
[03:18] <Farnaby> Gee, Ihave never had it happen its one of those things thats goignto be hardware/build specefic
[03:18] <za3k> I have xdm installed on ubuntu server (and not much else).  I have a solid-state drive, if that's relevant.  Anyway, when I boot up and log in, my keyboard input is being mirrored between tty1 and my X session.  Any ideas on diagnosing why?
[03:18] <Geeeeee> Well i'm going to go attempt to revive my computer.
[03:18] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  try the older lts release and see.
[03:18] <[[thufir]]> ah, so returning the prompt indicates success.  I thought it meant failure.  sigh.  Failure would've been useful.
[03:19] <dlentz> [[thufir]], did this happen after an update
[03:19] <dr_willis> you expet it to say 'good golly yes! we got the drivers loaded master!'
[03:19] <dr_willis> :)
[03:19] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: I did update, but it might've happened before that.  I haven't used this box in many moons.
[03:19] <Farnaby> if *nix was that friend dr_willis then more people might use it. People have gotten to used to having their hand held
[03:19] <dr_willis> [[thufir]]:  it may be a simple mixer setting set to muted also.
[03:20] <[[thufir]]> I checked sound preferences via GNOME GUI.  can you be more specific?
[03:20] <dr_willis> Farnaby:  given that the module was most likely allready loaded. :)
[03:20] <dr_willis> !alsa
[03:20] <[[thufir]]> yeah I'm going through that page at the moment.
[03:20] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], I had a problem with alsa on a laptop where the mic was uted and for some reason that killed all sound
[03:21] <dr_willis> I rarely work on sound issues.  I have ntoiced on many machines that use hdmi audio - i have to plug in a rca cable to use the normal sound out. and NOT the hdmi sound.
[03:21] <[[thufir]]> heh.  thx.  I don't think it's that, but I'll look again.  this is a relatively old desktop.
[03:21] <Farnaby> its really just a matter of sound issues seem to be really bizarre things that don't make a ton of sense (to me anyway)
[03:21] <kokolu> please can anyone tell me how to put a password on guest when login? coz if i lock my user account so anyperson can get enter with guest
[03:22] <dr_willis> on this tv "dvi monitor" i had to be sure to use the proper hdmi port to get it to use the right audio input also. :) but thats most likely not your issue
[03:22] <Farnaby> kokolu, you want all accounts including guest to have a password?
[03:22] <Nach0z> kokolu: "passwd guest" or something maybe? dunno why you'd do that
[03:22] <dr_willis> kokolu:  you could just disabke the guest account if you dont want to ise it..
[03:22] <cheese1756> kokolu, You can probably just delete the guest account, too
[03:22] <kokolu> Farnaby:  yes plz
[03:22] <dr_willis> guest account is special. (i never use it) :)
[03:23] <opform249_> i have a networking question...
[03:23]  * [[thufir]] agrees with Farnaby
[03:23] <cheese1756> opform249_, How advanced?
[03:23] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/70169/how-to-disable-the-guest-account-at-the-login-of-ubuntu-11-10
[03:23] <opform249_> i don't know yet...
[03:24] <flowerpot> dr_willis, how is the guest account special?
[03:24] <opform249_> just install Ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless doesn't work
[03:24] <cheese1756> What's your question, opform249_?
[03:24] <cheese1756> Oh
[03:24] <flowerpot> opform249_, probably missing the right drivers
[03:24] <cheese1756> Check if your wireless card is supported
[03:24] <cheese1756> Out of the box
[03:24] <cheese1756> That would be the first step, at least
[03:24] <dlentz> [[thufir]]. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[03:24] <opform249_> that is what I thought to but the "Additional Drivers" section
[03:24] <opform249_> for the Broadcom STA wireless driver is what I am having an issue with i think
[03:25] <kokolu> Farnaby:  how can i add password
[03:25] <opform249_> IF the driver is "active" i don't have ANY wireless options via the network button at the top
[03:25] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  the changes made to its settings are discarded when they log out for one thing
[03:25] <Farnaby> kokolu, checki in system, admin, users there should be an option to do whatever you want to do it. I always disable my guest accounts.
[03:25] <cheese1756> opform249_, Try just disabling and re-enabling wireless in the network manager
[03:26] <cheese1756> See if anything shows up then
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, but they're just a normal user in the end, right?
[03:26] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  i never use the feature. Its one of those 'features' that keeps getting added/removed/changed in each new release.
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, when you say they're special, it makes me wonder if Ubuntu has built in some magic that makes them underprivileged in the same way that root has magic that makes them superprivileged
[03:26] <opform249_> good call...be right back...have to find those commands...it's been awhile since I have used linux!
[03:26] <flowerpot> dr_willis, root isn't a normal user; I'm curious if guest isn't a normal user either
[03:26] <Kimble> yeats: yeah, it was the age-old "forgot to open the firewall" issue.  I feel like a plonker :)
[03:27] <cheese1756> opform249_, There's a check box for it
[03:27] <yeats> Kimble: sometimes asking other people helps you find the solution ;-)
[03:27] <cheese1756> Just click network manager and look towards the bottom
[03:27] <HeavyMetal> hi theholder
[03:27] <opform249_> oh and when i do a ifconfig...i don't have any "Wlan"...
[03:27] <Kimble> yeats: certainly did this time :)  Well ta for being my "sounding-board".
[03:27] <cheese1756> opform249_, That helps isolate the issue
[03:27] <[[thufir]]> my also info:   http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8a877bbadbbe357ff878b19f6b48dc820af752fa
[03:27] <dr_willis> flowerpot:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/98925/customize-guest-account   has some info
[03:28] <Farnaby> flowerpot, one of the things that make guest accounts "special" is that ubuntu normally has a security problem with guest accounts somewhere
[03:28] <blackarchan> hey ppla what app do youy use for ISO?? like daemon tools on windows?
[03:28] <kokolu> Farnaby:  how can i disable it plz
[03:28] <yeats> opform249_: try 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source' and restarting
[03:28] <wjp2> 有人吗？
[03:28] <flowerpot> Farnaby, what's the security problem?
[03:29] <flowerpot> dr_willis, thanks for the link
[03:29] <yeats> !cn | wjp2
[03:29] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8a877bbadbbe357ff878b19f6b48dc820af752fa
[03:29] <sec_> hi
[03:29] <Farnaby> Kokolu, what version?
[03:29] <rodayo> Kinda unrelated question but maybe someone will know the answer. What library do i need to link with in order to use getcwd() and the likes? (From unistd.h)
[03:29] <kokolu> Farnaby:  11.10
[03:29] <sec_> !kr
[03:29] <Farnaby> flowerpot, I know there was an exploit that would allow the guest to run as root
[03:30] <Farnaby> kokolu, http://linuxbsdos.com/ask/2011/10/disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[03:30] <dr_willis> blackarchan:  you can mount an iso file with  the mount command or other tools. it will appear as a normal folder. Not a special cd drive.
[03:30] <dr_willis> !iso | blackarchan
[03:30] <flowerpot> kokolu, you can also remove users in general using useradd.  think you'll have to use groupdel to get rid of the group, too
[03:30] <wjp2> hello
[03:30] <phong_> hi
[03:30] <sec_> hi
[03:31] <blackarchan> dr_willis ubottu tnx for the iso
[03:31] <Farnaby> Dunno if they ever came up with a way around it or not, I haven't played with 11.10
[03:31] <flowerpot> Farnaby, that seems pretty serious
[03:31] <blackarchan> ino*
[03:31] <sec_> phong_: how ur ?
[03:31] <sec_> ip
[03:31] <dr_willis> !info gmountiso
[03:31] <[[thufir]]> I added snd-intel8x0 to /etc/modules  to try and fix sound.
[03:31] <phong_> sec_, good
[03:32] <phong_> sec_, will you show me some trick fro linux?
[03:32] <phong_> lol
[03:32] <Farnaby> the one that I am thinking of specefically with regards to that was back around ... 8.10 I think? I assume they improved it
[03:32] <dr_willis> 3 yrs old.. id imagine so. :)
[03:32] <Farnaby> One would hope ;)
[03:32] <dr_willis> and we are now using lightdm. not the old gdm.
[03:32] <dlentz> [[thufir]], i don't see anything that catches my attention, nut i'm not a guru at this stuff
[03:33] <Farnaby> Speaking of lightdm kokolu http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> I'm htinking it's gotta be a configuration as to why I don't have sound.
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> dlentz: thanks for looking.
[03:33] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], the mystersy of alsa
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> lol
[03:33] <kokolu> Farnaby:  can u tell me what to do coz i am newbie on this plz
[03:34] <Farnaby> Follow this like kokolu and it should be a pretty easy step by step: http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[03:34] <[[thufir]]> all these settings in the sound applets, etc, those must be in a text file, right?
[03:34] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], somewhere probably.... whether its an inteilligible textfile is a seperate question
[03:34] <dlentz> [[thufir]], have you tried playing a sound file with aplay command?
[03:35] <[[thufir]]> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav as many users.  plus, audio and multimedia files I know which've played before
[03:35] <phong_> ubuntu is way faster then mac os x
[03:35] <dlentz> so that doesn't work?
[03:36] <[[thufir]]> nope.
[03:36] <dlentz> does it give an error
[03:36] <[[thufir]]> nope.
[03:37] <dlentz> have you tried headphones?
[03:38] <[[thufir]]> could it be a hardware error?  very old system.  yes, tried headphones.  no "static"(?) or other noise when they connect, either.  that little noise you hear when they complete the circuit.
[03:38] <Farnaby> actually thats a good point. Try taking compressedair tot eh headphone jack first though. Sometimes crap gets in there and the system willthink headphones are plugged in
[03:38] <[[thufir]]>  wait, huh, just unplugged, repluged speakers, did get static!  interesting.
[03:38] <Farnaby> Just how old is this system?
[03:39] <pnorman> I have a firewall I want to SSH tunnel through. I want to be to connect to my home ubuntu computer and have it go through a SSH tunnel to another ubuntu computer, then from there to a computer that it has access to
[03:39] <Farnaby> clean it [[thufir]] ! Can't hurt anyway
[03:39] <[[thufir]]> five plus years.  it sat unused for about six months.  then, I upgraded a bit.  I can't recall wen the sound broke, but when I put it away it worked.
[03:39] <[[thufir]]> Farnaby: yeah, maybe.
[03:40] <almoxarife> pnorman: let me guess, you want to exit back out to the internet to the last computer?
[03:40] <[[thufir]]> I find it encouraging that now there's static when plugged/unplugged.  maybe just because I maxed the speakers, tho, and it was doing that before.  hmm.
[03:41] <r0b-> how do i disable gnome and use kde?
[03:41] <almoxarife> r0b-: install kde
[03:41] <za3k> So this will be the last time I ask, but I'm having a problem with mirrored input using ubuntu server + xdm.  Can someone suggest where I could research or if another group might better be able to help?
[03:41] <r0b-> i instaleld kde
[03:41] <pnorman> almoxarife: no - i want to access a computer that can only be accessed if you're on the same LAN
[03:41] <Farnaby> or kubuntu
[03:41] <r0b-> but it wont let me switch
[03:41] <almoxarife> r0b-: login to kde
[03:42] <indystorm> Question for anyone who knows. I am using ubuntu with KDE installed--- I am trying to access kcontrol and it seems that it is not available. Any idea how I can install  and run it? I am on ubuntu server 10.04
[03:42] <[[thufir]]> ok, well, it's the speakers.  sorry about all that. headphones work now.  maybe something I did?  oddness
[03:42] <r0b-> guess i install kubuntu
[03:42] <r0b-> ty
[03:42] <almoxarife> pnorman: got it, you control the firewall/s?
[03:42] <Geeeeee> Can someone please help me, i've completely ruined my computer hahaha
[03:42] <Farnaby> I was about to tell r0b but he dropped....
[03:42] <dlentz> [[thufir]], the plot thickens..
[03:43] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, whats wrong?
[03:43] <pnorman> almoxarife: no
[03:43] <Geeeeee> I installed ubuntuwith windows 7, like a dual boot and not it's stuffed up my windows 7 and it won't even load.
[03:43] <Geeeeee> now*
[03:43] <Farnaby> [[thufir]], thats almost as good as a dirty jack
[03:43] <almoxarife> pnorman: guess that answers your question
[03:43] <dlentz> the speakers may be okay
[03:43] <pnorman> almoxarife: Also, I have root access on the local machine and not the machine behind the firewall. Non-standard ports are blocked by the firewall, but SSH is let through
[03:43] <Farnaby> is it spitting any errors or anything Geeeeee?
[03:44]  * [[thufir]] agrees with dlentz
[03:44] <dlentz> it could be that the amp is not kicking on for some reason
[03:44] <Geeeeee> nope, the loading screen just kind of like glitches the "Starting windows" screen kind of lags alot!
[03:44] <Farnaby> Is the amp on?
[03:44] <black> j #aiccu
[03:44] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you install from windows?
[03:45] <Farnaby> Geeeeee,  are you given any options about what to load up?
[03:45] <opform249> well cheese that didn't work...
[03:45] <black> any idea why aicci loads before dhclient? which causes it to not properly load?
[03:45] <almoxarife> pnorman: you dont control the firewall to me means you are doing an evil doer act, cant help the evild doers
[03:45] <Geeeeee> yes i did urlin, and it says start windows normally or launch something, but neither ofthem work
[03:46] <tjf> Is it possible to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04?
[03:46] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you getting the MS boot with ubuntu added?
[03:46] <tjf> or do I have to do 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04?
[03:46] <Geeeeee> MS Boot?
[03:46] <za3k> Bye then.  Thanks!
[03:46] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, boot menu?
[03:46] <sean1_> I have ubuntu 11.10, nvidia graphics, clean install, hanging at boot, Anyone have a clue. I think it is loading nouveau instead of nvidia
[03:46] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, can you get into windows safe mode?
[03:46] <Geeeeee> Yeah comes up "Windows 7" "Ubuntu" and i can choose either one
[03:46] <Geeeeee> no i can't.
[03:47] <Alicia> can somebody tell me what the syntax is to SSH to a different port.
[03:47] <black> ssh -
[03:47] <black> ssh -P
[03:47] <Farnaby> Sounds like the MBR might be pointing in the wrong directions. Not the easiest thing to fix
[03:47] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, are you familiar with what a grub menu look like?
[03:47] <black> no idea why aiccu would load before dhclient?
[03:47] <pnorman> almoxarife: I'm not trying to do anything evil. I could use the VPN, but it uses a propritary non-standard setup and I would have to send *all* my traffic through the VPN
[03:47] <[[thufir]]> ok, I'm googling without good results.  assuming speakers are functional, why will only headphones work?
[03:47] <urlin2u> Farnaby, not true easy fix.
[03:47] <sean1_> Can anyone help
[03:47] <dlentz> jack sensing is not working?
[03:48] <Farnaby> urlin2u, not if you don't know what an MBR is
[03:48] <Geeeeee> If i open Ubuntu up though, my cpu goes up to 90Degress + and i'm worried it fried my computer.
[03:48] <almoxarife> pnorman: there you go, you can use the vpn
[03:48] <black> 90D F isnt high
[03:48] <tjf> Geeeeee, 90f or 90c?
[03:48] <flowerpot> [[thufir]], I had that problem.  It resolved itself but I don't know why.
[03:48] <Geeeeee> c
[03:48] <tjf> 90f is nothing
[03:48] <black> 130+ is something to worry about
[03:48] <flowerpot> [[thufir]], have you tried rebooting just to see if that helps?
[03:48] <pnorman> almoxarife: Not without sending all of my traffic through it
[03:48] <rypervenche> Alicia: ssh -p
[03:48] <black> get a larger cooling fan.
[03:48] <afner> Hi People
[03:48] <Geeeeee> I've tried multiple times, but nothings working.
[03:48] <sean1_> I tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876236#post11432398
[03:49] <almoxarife> pnorman: got it, you control the firewall/s?
[03:49] <tjf> 90c is getting dangerous, most CPUs shut down around that point, iirc.
[03:49] <[[thufir]]> flowerpot: well, this started ~6 boots ago, so I'll reboot tomorrow.  I can't imagine what the difference is, although I did re-install a bunch of sound stuff.
[03:49] <sean1_> but the 2 echo commands give errors
[03:49] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, so a install from windows is called a wubi it still uses the windows boot menu some times the ubuntu grub bootloader get installed in the mbr with updates can we confirm whether it is a grub menu you see or a windows boot menu?
[03:49] <black> so no idea on why aiccu loads before dhclient?
[03:49] <pnorman> almoxarife: I can get them changed if needed, but opening up this machine to the general public isn't an option - it has to be secured
[03:49] <Farnaby> black no clue mate
[03:50] <Geeeeee> it's a windows boot menu.
[03:50] <pnorman> (this machine = the machine I want to connect to in the end)
[03:50] <almoxarife> pnorman: 'this' is which?
[03:50] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, can you boot from CD?
[03:50] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, cool did you resize windows at any point in this you would not need to with a install from windows?
[03:51] <almoxarife> pnorman: 'this' is a ubuntu?
[03:51] <black> anyone wanna check my crontab script to see whats wrong with it?
[03:51] <Mayank> Hi I am running a live cd and trying to mount my wubi install by this - mount -o loop /media/win/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /mnt/ . Everytime I run this command I get a Segmentation Fault error,  are their anyalternatives to mount the wubinstall and edit a file through the live-cd/usb
[03:51] <Geeeeee> I'm not sure what a boot from CD is, and im not sure urlin.
[03:51] <pnorman> almoxarife: using machine names, I want to connect to merry and have it send the data through a ssh tunnel to hyper and then have it go from hyper to blip
[03:51] <urlin2u> Mayank, you yet post at the ubunru forums?
[03:51] <cheese1756> Hello. I'm getting a bug in Ubuntu that I also got with Slackware. When I try to use my wireless connection, the connection fails. When I run dmesg it says, "wlan0: no IPv6 routers present"
[03:51] <urlin2u> ubuntu*
[03:51] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, if you put a liveCD in can you boot that.
[03:52] <cheese1756> I use IPv4, so that shouldn't be a problem
[03:52] <cheese1756> Wireless worked just fine during my install
[03:52] <pnorman> merry and hyper are running ubuntu, no clue what blip is running
[03:52] <Geeeeee> Does need a specific thing on it? or can it be anything on the cd?
[03:52] <urlin2u> Mayank, your wubi is a file in windows.
[03:52] <Farnaby> cheese1756, disable IPV6. SHould be in network settings
[03:52] <almoxarife> pnorman: which firewalls do you control, ie. pre-merry etc
[03:52] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Thanks
[03:53] <Mayank> urlin2u: yes, I thought its not *that* irrelevant to try it out here. I basically want to mount it on the live cd and edit the ext2 disk image. any leads to do that?
[03:53] <Geeeeee> okay i have my laptop here now, ill turn it on and tell you everything i see.
[03:53] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, do y=this run this script and pastebin the results.txt it will tell us the what is where including the boot loader in the mbr.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, do you have the CD that you installed ubuntu off of still? that would be a liveCD. Or did you not use a cd?
[03:53] <pnorman> almoxarife: I have complete control over merry and the connection between where I'm connecting from and merry. merry to hyper is over the internet and I can get the firewall there changed.
[03:53] <Geeeeee> Thermal shutdow occurred.
[03:53] <Geeeeee> thats what it has atm
[03:54] <Farnaby> cheese1756, no problem
[03:54] <Geeeeee> Launch startup Repair?
[03:54] <almoxarife> wubi is usually two files, disk and swap
[03:54] <urlin2u> Mayank, not really wubi is not used by many here post in the wubi megathread at the ubuntu forums if you can.
[03:54] <Geeeeee> OMG ITS WORKING I THINK!
[03:54] <skraps> anyone had a problem with firefox 9 crashing when loading gmail?
[03:54] <Mayank> urlin2u: Hmm! Thanks yet again! :)
[03:54] <skraps> I just downloaded and installed the new firefox, running 11.10
[03:55] <urlin2u> Mayank, np.
[03:55] <Farnaby> for now. Thermal shutdown sounds a little too close to thermal detonater for my tastes....
[03:55] <hydrox24> skraps: try running it from the command line if you are knowledgable enough to decode errors
[03:55] <tjk> how can I turn the side bar into a macosx style bottom bar?
[03:55] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Still no luck
[03:55] <hydrox24> skraps: if not, then please use the firefox channel/forums
[03:55] <urlin2u> Farnaby, lol yeah. :D
[03:55] <Geeeeee> It's restoring my windows at the moment.
[03:55] <Geeeeee> i think i've fixed it, im not sure.
[03:55] <skraps> hydrox24: I did a strace and its dies while loading the theme so I swapped themes and its still the same
[03:55] <pnorman> I tried ssh -f -L 1234:blip:1234 pnorman@hyper -N and connecting to hyper on port 1234, but it didn't work and I'm trying to figure out where it failed
[03:55] <hydrox24> tjk: Unity is still in it's earliest stages and thus not very customizable. try a third-party dock like cairo dock
[03:55] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, you had nothing to save right you will not have ubuntu if it is a recovery.
[03:56] <Farnaby> cheese1756, you might have to restart,easiest way of restarting that stuff
[03:56] <Geeeeee> nope, nothings on it that isn't on my external hd
[03:56] <tjk> hydrox24: can I apt-get cairo? or do I download it a different way?
[03:56] <opform249> so i need some help with getting my wireless to work. :(
[03:56] <hydrox24> pnorman: I am assuming you have installed openssh-server on the computer you are trying to install to
[03:56] <cheese1756> Sure, I'll give it a shot Farnaby
[03:56] <Farnaby> thats smart thinking Geeeeee
[03:56] <hydrox24> tjk: apt-get install cairo-dock
[03:56] <hydrox24> [
[03:56] <veritos> Does there exist a Debian formatted package for Flash on 64 bit? The nspluginwrapper dance with the 32 bit plugin is making Pandora not work. This is 11.10.
[03:56] <Geeeeee> I still need to figure out why ubuntu is overheating my cpu thought :/
[03:56] <tjk> thank you
[03:56] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, cool that is the way I role.
[03:57] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: have you looked into the ACPI compatibility with your computer?
[03:57] <hydrox24> tjk: no prob
[03:57] <Geeeeee> No hydro, how do i do that.
[03:57] <pnorman> hydrox24: Ya, it's installed
[03:58] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: google the issue
[03:58] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: what laptop/desktop do you have
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: i will thanks :)
[03:58] <almoxarife> pnorman: ssh > merry > firewall pre-hyper(open some port for ssh) > iptables to exclude all except merry > inside localnet
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: a hp.
[03:58] <evoandroidevo> is there any resone why in the installer that i dont get an option to install side byside with windows
[03:58] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: pavilion dv6.
[03:59] <Farnaby> cheese1756, any luck?
[03:59] <tjk> hydrox24: this is awesome! Can you recommend a website or forum that deals with Ubuntu desktop customization? I'd like to learn more.
[03:59] <pnorman> almoxarife: that's what i'm trying to do - when you say iptables to exclude all except merry, do you mean on the firewall? it's set to allow anyone to be able to use ssh (assuming they have somewhere to connect to)
[04:00] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: windows is running good now :)
[04:00] <almoxarife> pnorman: if you can exclude at the hardware firewall thats even better
[04:00] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you boooted the cd?
[04:00] <Farnaby> Thats half the battle Geeeeee next up is to et *nix running! ;)
[04:00] <tjf> For some reason, my computer (running Ubuntu server) won't connect to the internet, even over ethernet. It worked on Windows, and it works on my laptop...
[04:00] <hydrox24> tjk: not a specific one no, but keep in mind that ubuntu is ridiculously customizable compared to windows/mac
[04:01] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: yes i'll have to figure out how to fix the overheating problem :/
[04:01] <almoxarife> pnorman: and since you are paranoid , iptable hyper anyway, redundant is good
[04:01] <evoandroidevo> Farnaby USB yea on it right now
[04:01] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Now Ubuntu itself is freezing
[04:01] <cheese1756> I had a similar issue in Windows
[04:01] <Geeeeee> hydrox24: how do i find out if the ACPI power thingo is compatible with my laptop?
[04:01] <pnorman> almoxarife: I'm just trying to figure out the command that I need to run on merry to set it up
[04:01] <cheese1756> Probably a hardware problem, but I have no idea how to isolate it
[04:02] <cheese1756> All I know is that it's not the RAM
[04:02] <cheese1756> It will get to the login screen or sooner, then just freeze completely
[04:02] <cheese1756> Windows would bluescreen
[04:02] <evoandroidevo> my bad wrong person urlin2u Yea useing usb
[04:02] <tjk> hydrox24: no problem. Thanks again for the dock recommendation.
[04:02] <cheese1756> I thought it was an NVIDIA driver problem, but I guess not
[04:03] <phong_> hi cheese1756
[04:03] <cheese1756> Hey phong_
[04:03] <Farnaby> Geeeeee, google your make and model with ubuntu
[04:03] <Farnaby> cheese1756, that makes no sense...
[04:03] <tjk> Can anyone else in the channel recommend a good forum/site that deals with ubuntu desktop customization exclusively?
[04:03] <cheese1756> Farnaby, Two separate issues
[04:03] <phong_> licking cheese1756
[04:03] <cheese1756> Not related to the wireless
[04:03] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the output
[04:03] <almoxarife> pnorman: i use gufw, so i cant tell you the iptables version, gufw is a gui for ufw  the firewall that uses iptables
[04:03] <Farnaby> cheese1756, ahhh you had me worried. I was racking my brain as to how ipv6 could cause that
[04:03] <urlin2u> !pastebin | evoandroidevo
[04:04] <pnorman> almoxarife: I don't need the iptables stuff, I need the ssh stuff. I can already ssh in to hyper from merry, it's the tunneling I need to do
[04:05] <Josh|KilljoyX23> I have Ubuntu installed with Wubi, with a small amount of space partioned for it. how do i check Ubuntu to see what i have to work with?
[04:06] <evoandroidevo> mhm yea so is there a resone y its not showing the option
[04:06] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, of that command? can you run it?
[04:06] <pnorman> With ssh -L does it only accept connections from localhost?
[04:06] <Farnaby> ungh and now for some reason my RDP session keeps dropping. Thats annoying
[04:07] <almoxarife> pnorman: no idea, thats why i have a firewall to only accept from to blah blah
[04:08] <evoandroidevo> what screen shot shortcut?
[04:08] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, how big did yuo make it ubuntu is about 3 gigs installed.
[04:08] <mikefmail> When selecting a number of files to play in smplayer I have to drag the window up to load the files by way of accessing the "open" dialogue button. Has anyone got any idea of how I can remedy this please.
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> mmm...on the installer, i believe it went up to 30g, but i believe it was default 18g. I just dont know how to check how much space i have left. Disk space i mean
[04:09] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, check in windows ubuntu ias just a file there.
[04:09] <urlin2u> is*
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> oh okay. is there a way to expand the space without reinstalling wubi?
[04:09] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, I assume you mean the HD disc space here.
[04:09] <Josh|KilljoyX23> or erm...ubuntu
[04:10] <Josh|KilljoyX23> yes
[04:10] <Farnaby> ungh I need a beer
[04:11] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, disk utility in ubuntu will tell you the size
[04:11] <Josh|KilljoyX23> ah perfect. thank you
[04:11] <evoandroidevo> what screen shot shortcut?
[04:11] <cheese1756> Print screen
[04:12] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you see the command for the terminal that will give you text, that can be copied and pasted to a pastebin?
[04:12] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  theres ways to resize the wubi disk file from what i recall.. but i hate wubi so reccomend doing a normal install. :)
[04:12] <hydrox24> evoandroidevo: specifically, on your keyboard
[04:12] <Josh|KilljoyX23> id like to do a normal install. I'm new to linux, and thus my life is on windows so i can't get rid of it just yet.
[04:13] <Josh|KilljoyX23> so far, Ubuntu trumps Win7 :)
[04:13] <black> if [[ "$IP" < "0" ]] whats wrong with that?
[04:13] <opform249> have you tried the dev version of win 8
[04:13] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, you can transfer the wubi to a partition if you want and have the room.
[04:13] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: glad to hear it!
[04:13] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: so are you looking for instruction for how to do a normal install?
[04:14] <evoandroidevo> http://imagebin.org/195982
[04:14] <Josh|KilljoyX23> Would i still be able to dual boot with Windows?
[04:15] <evoandroidevo> why there no leting me install side by side is what im asking i have a 200gb hard drive
[04:15] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, okay we need to see what is on the hard drive now as far as how many partitions, so do the screen shot again but using the gparted partitioner it is on the live cd.
[04:16] <evoandroidevo> ok
[04:16] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, several possible reasons why that is why the HD info is important
[04:17] <dr_willis> black:  you are expecting a negtive number for an ip address?
[04:18] <evoandroidevo> http://imagebin.org/195983
[04:18] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: sure
[04:18] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: that's how I operate
[04:18]  * Farnaby afk
[04:19] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i have a 500g hd, i believe ~250g empty. Would that be enough
[04:19] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  i  got a full ubuntu install on a 16gb flash drive. :)
[04:19] <Josh|KilljoyX23> spent too much money on all the other parts :)
[04:20] <evoandroidevo> dr_willis like not live boot but actully installed on the flash drive?
[04:20] <dr_willis> evoandroidevo:  yes. a full normal install
[04:20] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, you just need to shrink W7 with its partitioner but first run a chkdsk, and defragg ubuntu is not reading it so it needs a bit of help first, and back it up before shrinking and installing ubuntu.
[04:20] <Josh|KilljoyX23> If i have space to put wow on ubuntu ill be a happy camper xD
[04:20] <dr_willis> i can 'dd' it to a new machine if i want to clone my setup :)
[04:20] <evoandroidevo> how did u do that
[04:20] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: more than enough!
[04:20] <hydrox24> wow?
[04:20] <dr_willis> evoandroidevo:  installed like i would to a normal hard drive.
[04:20] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: do you plan to tun it under WINE?
[04:21] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i dont know anything about WINE
[04:21] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  if WoW is your main goal.. you may want to stick to playing it in windows.
[04:21] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, that all make sense to you?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  it can work with wine.. but  can be tricky or slower.
[04:21] <artichoku> question about dual-booting
[04:22] <evoandroidevo> urlin2u how do i chkdsk i tryed doing that on ubuntu and didnt work
[04:22] <Josh|KilljoyX23> not main goal, but nice to not swap back and forth. would a full install run cleaner than wubi
[04:22] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, not on ubuntu windows, ubuntu is a different does not use chkdsk.
[04:22] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: I've never used wubi, but it's like a virtual machine yes?
[04:22] <artichoku> i just did a clean install of backtrack 5 using entire disk, but i want to dual boot ubuntu. what install options do i need to choose when installing ubuntu so that backtrack stays intact?
[04:22] <dr_willis> Josh|KilljoyX23:  wubi is a pain. i would get away from it as soon as possible.
[04:23] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, chkdsk windows.
[04:23] <evoandroidevo> oh ok
[04:23] <Josh|KilljoyX23> it boots from Bios, the only experience with a VM is booted into windows
[04:23] <evoandroidevo> well ill be back then
[04:23] <Josh|KilljoyX23> my only experience**
[04:23] <Geeeeee> Farnaby: Dude, how do i find out weather or not ubuntu is compatible with my laptop, i found a site but there are so many HP Pavilion DV6 models i'm not sure which is mine haha
[04:23] <dr_willis> artichoku:  customize the disk layout, resize the existing instll. make a / partition for ubuntu  the 2 can share swap partition IF you dont use hibernate/suspend.
[04:24] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, cool chkdsk it and defragg it and shrink it with the windows partitioner a leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu to format and install to.
[04:24] <dr_willis> artichoku:  i dont see much point in dual booting Ubuntu and backtrack really.... dont see mich point in backtrack for most people that come in here asking about it either. :)
[04:24] <sharkmap> just got ubuntu 10.04 running on my 10 year old sony vaio laptop.
[04:24] <Josh|KilljoyX23> im learning ubuntu because backtrack 5 kicked my butt
[04:24] <Josh|KilljoyX23> :)
[04:24] <Geeeeee> sharkmap: is it overheating.
[04:25] <artichoku> i've never did custom partitioning, and because i don't want to run backtrack off a live disk anymore
[04:25] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, back track is for tumbs not hard drives.
[04:25] <urlin2u> thumbs
[04:25] <Josh|KilljoyX23> i have it on VM
[04:25] <sharkmap> no. temp is pretty cool. cooler than when it ran xp
[04:25] <dr_willis> backtrack and ubuntu are still linux at the core.. learn the fundamentals.. and it wont matter. :)
[04:25] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: I'm not sure if doing a normal install is better than wubi, but I am happy to help with the normal install
[04:25] <urlin2u> Josh|KilljoyX23, even worse.
[04:25] <Geeeeee> Cheers, i might give 10.4 ago.
[04:26] <sharkmap> ive had it going for the last 6 hours
[04:26] <dr_willis> I see way to many people 'using back track' when they have no  real need for the features/reasons it exists.. :)
[04:26] <artichoku> dr_willis, i want the ubuntu eye candy. they're both technically ubuntu
[04:26] <Josh|KilljoyX23> Ah, well ill fix that when im more linux fluent. What exactly would i need to do to convert to a normal install?
[04:26] <urlin2u> dr_willis, hallelujah . :D
[04:27] <dr_willis> artichoku:  i suggest just dumpting backtrack and using it from a live setup if you ever (rarely) need it.
[04:27] <artichoku> <--- i test network security
[04:27] <sharkmap> 11.10 ran very slow and locked. 10.4 is faster and more responsive
[04:27] <hydrox24> Josh|KilljoyX23: OK, well you'll need someone elses help for going from WUBI to a normal install but I can help you with a straight normal install
[04:27] <artichoku> it's not a rare occasion
[04:27] <zane> can someone help me get my belkin wireless usb adapter working? i have done 'sudo mv rtil8192sfw.bin /lib/firmware/RTL819SU/' and it doesn't work?
[04:27] <hydrox24> artichoku: maybe for you...
[04:28] <dr_willis> thats why bt is made for running from a live cd/flash...
[04:28] <Geeeeee> sharkmap: did you dual boot it or just reformat it as ubuntu?
[04:28] <dr_willis> but this is getting ot...
[04:28] <hydrox24> zane: have you tried adding the restricted drivers using the "additional drivers panel"/
[04:28] <artichoku> this conversation got weird. i just wanted to know about dual booting and my partition setup
[04:28] <zane> hydrox24: tried that, doesn't work. i'm using 10.10
[04:29] <sharkmap> i tried to resize the partition but that failed, so I just blew xp away and installed on the entire 20GB haed drive
[04:29] <zane> hydrox24: the chipset is a RTL8188SU
[04:30] <hydrox24> when you plug it in, does nothing happen?
[04:30] <zane> hydrox24: well dmesg reports it being identified, but it's not being initialized and 'iwconfig' doesn't show it
[04:30] <zane> hydrox24: it doesn't light up either
[04:31] <hydrox24> zane: does ifconfig -a show it?
[04:31] <zane> hydrox24: no
[04:31] <sharkmap> i must admit, I am a beginner at this. It is basically my first Linux install ever.
[04:32] <hydrox24> ok
[04:32] <hydrox24> zane: wait a minute
[04:32] <zane> hydrox24: ok
[04:32] <hydrox24> sharkmap: that's OK
[04:33] <sharkmap> thanks. I'm giving myself a pat on the back for getting the laptop to work. 11.10 was so slow I thought the laptop was a gonner.
[04:33] <dr_willis> artichoku:  use custom partioning schemd. or other tools to resize and make a partion to use for /, swap can be shared if you dont use hibernate/suspend
[04:35] <sharkmap> i did install 11.10 onto a usb stick and try a live install on my desktop to see how it would run. its a lot quicker than the laptop was
[04:35] <JackAnansi> Hi, I installed Lubuntu, and I was wondering how to change the resolution of the tty (ctrl-alt- [1-6] ) screen. It seems to be exceeding my monitor's max, so I'm getting an "Input out of range" message
[04:36] <Geeeeee> To uninstall wubi/ubuntu, do i just delete the files from my C drive?
[04:36] <hydrox24> Geeeeee: let me check
[04:37] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  wubis main feature is it installs/uninstalls via the windows add/remove programs tool
[04:37] <dr_willis> you dont 'just delete the files'
[04:37] <Geeeeee> its not in the add/remove thing
[04:38] <dr_willis> you can access your wubi install from a full install of ubuntu, or vrom a live cd ifyou wanted to..
[04:38] <dr_willis> Geeeeee:  somthings weird then. wubi defainatly should have an entry there
[04:39] <hydrox24> zane: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594535
[04:39] <Geeeeee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_uninstall_Wubi.3F
[04:39] <Geeeeee> the manually one, should i just do that
[04:39] <dr_willis> No idea. I make it a point to stay far away from wubi. :)
[04:40] <zane> hydrox24: already been there and looked at that
[04:40] <Geeeeee> yeah i want to get rid of it.
[04:41] <Geeeeee> got it, its uninstalling now
[04:41] <hydrox24> zane: what resulted from your attempt?
[04:42] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, wubi not showing inn the add remove, you have to have admin access.
[04:42] <zane> hydrox24: nada
[04:42] <hydrox24> so it didn't work?
[04:42] <hydrox24> what went wrong?
[04:43] <Geeeeee> i do have admin access.
[04:43] <Geeeeee> it said it uninstalled just then
[04:43] <agu10^> hey
[04:43] <urlin2u> Geeeeee, it's being removed though right?
[04:43] <Geeeeee> I downloaded the wubi uninstaller, and it uninstalled.
[04:43] <gh0zt> when i start dhcpd I get 'cant open /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: permission denied" but it is there.
[04:44] <dr_willis> gh0zt:  how are you starting it?
[04:44] <reapingwo> anyone have experience with samba and file sharing???
[04:44] <gh0zt> dhcpd -d -f -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf at0 &
[04:44] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  theres 1000's of sites and most people in here have SOME experience with it.. ask your specific question about it and see
[04:44] <dr_willis> gh0zt:  a service may need 'sudo' rights
[04:45] <reapingwo> I'm trying to let my HTPC stream files through XBMC from my other computer but no luck so far
[04:45] <reapingwo> been googling all day and can't figure out what I am missing
[04:45] <agu10^> I just installed ubuntu and I have 2 screens: 1366x768 and 1920x1200. They were working at that resolution. After I restarted the computer, and tried to re-configure them at that resolution, it now says: "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:45] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  xbmc can also access upnp shares  such as what 'ushare' or 'mediatomb' can supply.
[04:46] <reapingwo> I configured my samber server with system-config-samba but I cant browse the shares
[04:46] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  can your linux box access the shares from outside xbmc?
[04:46] <Geeeeee> now i have to learn how to install dual operating systems with that patrition thing :P
[04:46] <agu10^> Any help?
[04:47] <dr_willis> i noticed xbmc being a little stupid here and not wanting to access a share that the host os can easially access
[04:47] <urlin2u> agu10^, gotta give it mote than a min. :D
[04:47] <reapingwo> I have been using ssh to get access, but no luck with samba
[04:47] <urlin2u> more*
[04:47] <reapingwo> looking into ushare and mediatomb now
[04:47] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  sshfs is handy also.
[04:47] <agu10^> oh, sorry
[04:47] <dr_willis> ushare is fairly easy to get going. but dosent have a nice gui front end.  i just set it to share my whole 'media' drive.
[04:47] <Xourii> ello everyone.
[04:48] <dr_willis> ushare alsoworks  for my other media devices in the house.
[04:48] <Xourii> Could someone give me a reason why we don't use Ubuntu in our schools? I'm writing a persuasive essay in favor of Linux/GNU in schools.
[04:48] <reapingwo> yeah, im just looking for a way to get my HTPC to stream video from my other rig, as my htpc has a small HD
[04:50] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  if its a dedicated machine for htpc  you may want to try out  the 'openelec' live/mini disrto. its basically a small xbmc-live disrto. its in beta testing
[04:50] <almoxarife> reapingwo: xbmc does that for me all day long
[04:50] <dr_willis> xbmc works well here.. but last night.. it did not want to see my samba shares.. then today .. it did see them. Not sure what the deal was
[04:50] <JackAnansi> anyone know how to change the resolution used in TTY sessions?
[04:50] <reapingwo> I think im good with the full distro, my htpc is a beast of a rig, for what it has to do
[04:50] <almoxarife> dr_willis: greemlins?
[04:50] <agu10^> any help? setting resolution of screens
[04:51] <agu10^> http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:51] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  the consoles, can be set to use the framebuffer, and  theres settings, or the fbset command to tweak the res of the framebuffer
[04:51] <almoxarife> grimlins ?
[04:51] <reapingwo> dr_willis, how do I configure ushare?
[04:51] <gh0zt> I installed dhcp3-server in ubuntu but how do i start it?  there is no dhcpd3.  there is a dhcpd but I dont think that was part of dhcp3-server.
[04:51] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  edit its config files and start the service..
[04:51] <reapingwo> oic
[04:51] <dr_willis> reapingwo:  read of its docs.. is handy also. :)
[04:51] <dr_willis> i basically added a few paths and ran it.
[04:52] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: I'm new to linux; not sure how to do that
[04:53] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  its one of those obscure areas that i havent messed with in ages.. the framebuffer console is normally more hassles then its worth.  You are talking about the alt-ctrl-f1 type console right?
[04:53] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: yeah. I think it's trying to use a resolution that's higher than my monitor's max
[04:54] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  i tend to set up grub with the 'noquiet nofb' option and totally disable the framebuffer. that way the consoles use a nice simple low res text only display
[04:55] <Guest28545> WOOO!! WOOO!! WOOO!!  I just got my new build fired up and I'm staring at my uefi bios. There is no o/s installed and I would like to try running an ubuntu live cd on that computer. I need to make sure that this will work with uefi bios if I try it. Does anyone know if it should work?
[04:55] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: think you could walk me through? I know basic bash syntax, but I'm getting lost in the file system
[04:55] <tjf> so I suppose nobody has any clue whatsoever as to why Ubuntu would refuse to connect to the internet?
[04:55] <haven> How can Paltalk be used in Ubuntu? Can anyone give me the solution?
[04:56] <almoxarife> haven: tried using wine to run it?
[04:56] <urlin2u> tjf, how are your trying to connect?
[04:56] <hydrox24> zane: so it didn't work?
[04:56] <agu10^> HELP I can't get my resolution to apply! http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:56] <tjf> urlin2u, wired
[04:56] <tjf> via ethernet
[04:57] <urlin2u> tjf, no sure myself.
[04:57] <urlin2u> not*
[04:57] <almoxarife> haven: paltalk is also a web app, so any browser should work
[04:57] <hydrox24> agu10^: how did you try to reconfigure the computer?
[04:57] <haven> almoxarife: you mean right click the icon and click the run in wine ?
[04:57] <agu10^> screen settings, change resolution
[04:57] <Lasivian> Is there any way in Gnome/nautilus to make a link to a network location on a windows machine?
[04:57] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:   you want to DISABLE the framebuffer then?
[04:58] <dr_willis> xbmc definatly has issues finding the samba shares. Nautilus access them fine.
[04:58] <almoxarife> haven: paltalk now works in a web browser
[04:58] <hydrox24> ok
[04:58] <dr_willis> xbmc rather finds them.. but asks for a user/pass that i enter corectly.. then dosent seem to want to actually get into the share.
[04:58] <haven> I will go to see
[04:58] <Lasivian> I can get to the windows machine/directory, but it's a pain in the butt
[04:59] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: if that'll fix it I'm fine with it. or if I can just edit the config file somewhere to use a different resolution
[04:59] <agu10^> hydrox24: just in screen settings... GUI
[04:59] <gh0zt> I have dhcp3-server installed on 11.10 and I cannot figure out how to start it.  I keep getting permission denied errors for "/etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" whenever starting it by issuing "dhcpd -d -f -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf at0 &" and whenever I run it.  but i'm not even sure if that's how i'm supposed to start dhcp3-server because it isn't in services or /etc/init.d
[04:59] <goblinshark> HGEYT
[04:59] <goblinshark> can someone please help
[04:59] <goblinshark> for the love of god
[04:59] <goblinshark> CAN YOU HELP JESUS
[04:59] <hydrox24> agu10^: yes, I understand
[04:59] <FloodBot1> goblinshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <goblinshark> jesus christ
[04:59] <cheese1756> Hi
[04:59] <hydrox24> goblinshark: calm down pleas
[04:59] <Kami__> hi
[04:59] <agu10^> Display Settings -> Resolution        http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[04:59] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  you edit the /etc/default/grub to set the default options and grub res. (back up that file first) and you will need sudo rights to edit it. Its very well documented at the grub2 factoid urls
[05:00] <cheese1756> Does anyone know which command restarts alsamixer?
[05:00] <dr_willis> !grub2 | JackAnansi
[05:00] <cheese1756> Also, the alsa default seems to be constantly changing
[05:00] <hydrox24> goblinshark: you didn't even state your question?
[05:00] <goblinshark> I NEED
[05:00] <goblinshark> you to help
[05:00] <cheese1756> Well, not the default itself, but the number it is associated with
[05:00] <goblinshark> please
[05:00] <goblinshark> ?
[05:00] <FloodBot1> goblinshark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <agu10^> goblinshark: i bet ubuntu is killing you
[05:00] <goblinshark> will you please
[05:00] <goblinshark> yes it is
[05:00] <agu10^> goblinshark: ubuntu is not for non-hax0rs
[05:00] <zane> i have installed ndiswrapper and when doing 'modprobe ndiswrapper' i am getting an error about it not being found
[05:00] <goblinshark> hey buddy
[05:00] <goblinshark> i need u
[05:00] <cheese1756> My headset is set to 3 in alsa.conf, for eample, but then on the next reboot it is set to 2, then to 1, etc
[05:00] <cheese1756> Any ideas?
[05:01] <agu10^> i feel needed, goblinshark
[05:01] <goblinshark> Hey, would someone please help me
[05:01] <goblinshark> i need help
[05:01] <goblinshark> can anyone please help unbuntu?
[05:01] <goblinshark> nim trying to install unbuntu
[05:01] <goblinshark> wubi.exe
[05:01] <goblinshark> it says
[05:01] <cheese1756> goblinshark: State your question and people will answer
[05:01] <agu10^> goblinshark: I guess you need professional help
[05:01] <goblinshark> i do
[05:01] <cheese1756> Don't just spam that you need help
[05:01] <goblinshark> but they wont help
[05:01] <cheese1756> it makes no one want to help you
[05:01] <goblinshark> holy god
[05:01] <goblinshark> im sorry cheesebread
[05:01] <pangolin> !enter | goblinshark
[05:01] <agu10^> goblinshark: who is they? do you hear voices?
[05:02] <goblinshark> the nazis
[05:02] <goblinshark> System Shock
[05:02] <dr_willis> and another example of how to not get help on irc....
[05:02] <goblinshark> System Shock 2
[05:02] <goblinshark> Just be patient mr. willis
[05:02] <Nullifi3d> BEST GAME OF ALL TIME
[05:02] <goblinshark> I have a data
[05:02] <goblinshark> disc
[05:02] <Nullifi3d> SS2
[05:02] <goblinshark> do you think say?
[05:02] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  getting ready to pastebin my example  file for you
[05:02] <goblinshark> hey willis
[05:03] <sixcorners> How does ubiquity suggest the hostname that it does when you are at the step to rename your computer?
[05:03] <goblinshark> hey baby
[05:03] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: thanks :) I'm reading up on grub2
[05:03] <goblinshark> hey dr. willis
[05:03] <goblinshark> Dr_willis
[05:03] <agu10^> I need help! I can't set the proper screen resolution. http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[05:03] <dannel> sixcorners, magic 8-ball
[05:03] <pangolin> !behelpful
[05:04] <cheese1756> Now that he's gone, does anyone have any ideas?
[05:04] <sixcorners> dannel, those things never work for me : \
[05:04] <cheese1756> Why the number associated with my headset and soundcards change each reboot?
[05:04] <cheese1756> Also, how do I set the defaults and restart alsamixer
[05:04] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 looks promising, but it says it only applies to the boot menu display
[05:04] <agu10^> Doesn't anybody know how to solve my issue??? http://pastebin.com/L3PM5cQv
[05:05] <trypnotic> hey
[05:05] <trypnotic> would someone here please help me
[05:05] <trypnotic> ?
[05:05] <dannel> ask your question and they might
[05:05] <trypnotic> k
[05:05] <trypnotic> my dog
[05:05] <dannel> oh, troll.
[05:05] <trypnotic> I am trying to install ubuntu
[05:06] <urlin2u> agu10^, please don't post every minute the channel suggests every 15 min.
[05:06] <trypnotic> urine2u
[05:06] <trypnotic> hey buddy
[05:06] <trypnotic> can you help me?
[05:06] <agu10^> oh, okay... i found that I need ATI catalyst or something... where should I get it? it's not in software center
[05:07] <pangolin> trypnotic: only if yo ask a question
[05:07] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  my example -->  /etc/default/grub
[05:07] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819658/
[05:07] <trypnotic> sure
[05:07] <dannel> agu10^, amd's website
[05:07] <trypnotic> of course
[05:07] <trypnotic> im broke
[05:07] <trypnotic> here goes
[05:07] <FloodBot1> trypnotic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <dr_willis> JackAnansi:  befor that you want to try the 'nofb' option.  unless you want to play with the grub menu res
[05:07] <urlin2u> noobs from space.
[05:07] <trypnotic> I am trying to install Ubuntu
[05:07] <trypnotic> it is saying
[05:07] <trypnotic> win i try to execute the file
[05:07] <dr_willis> agu10^:  the fglrx drivers include the ati (now amd catalyst) config tool.
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  its called amdccl (i think) from the command line
[05:08] <trypnotic> I:\ wubi.exe is not a valid win 32 exe application
[05:08] <trypnotic> will anyone help me?
[05:08] <agu10^> dr_willis: thanks!
[05:08] <trypnotic> wubi . exe is not a valid win32 application
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  amdcccle
[05:08] <trypnotic> anyone know?
[05:08] <trypnotic> dr. willis
[05:08] <dr_willis> agu10^:  such an annoying name... :)
[05:08] <trypnotic> dr. willis
[05:08] <pangolin> trypnotic: Please stop hitting enter every 3 words
[05:08] <trypnotic> you there man?
[05:08] <urlin2u> ! ask | trypnotic
[05:08] <dr_willis> trypnotic:  running wubi.exe in windows? sounds like its currupted..
[05:08] <trypnotic> Im sorry but you
[05:09] <trypnotic> its not
[05:09] <dr_willis> trypnotic:  i reccomend not using wubi at all.
[05:09] <trypnotic> its a fresh exe
[05:09] <pangolin> trypnotic: sorry but nothing, just stop.
[05:09] <trypnotic> I have the disc but
[05:09] <trypnotic> ok i burned it to a cd
[05:09] <LukeNukem_> hey guys i installed wine, i have an extra ntfs partition..i want to use that as a drive in wine how to do this
[05:09] <trypnotic> i cant boot up with it
[05:09] <trypnotic> i cant run it in windows
[05:09] <LukeNukem_> i tried browsing to to the ntfs partition, but its not showing in wine config
[05:09] <LinuxApprentice> why does 'modprobe ndiswrapper' report 'module not found' when i have ndiswrapper installed?
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you can mount it whever you want and access it as if it was a folder from within wine apps.
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  ie: /media/windata  or whatever
[05:10] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, its mounted, i want to install wine applications on that, how do i do this?
[05:10] <LukeNukem_> o.o
[05:10] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  i think x: or z: is the / of the whole os from wines point of view.
[05:10] <Kami__> question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819660/
[05:10] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: try this:
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, z is /
[05:11] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_: so it will be z:/media/whatveritsmountedto/
[05:11] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: actually, do you want to use it as your WINE folder (like .wine) or as an actual drive IN WINE?
[05:11] <paraiso> I just did a bunch of updates and now Ubuntu doesn't "see" any wifi networks (including mine).  How would I go about troubleshooting this problem?
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, want to use it as a drive in WINE
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> so i can install windows programs onto that partition
[05:11] <LukeNukem_> :D
[05:12] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: OK, so open winecfg
[05:12] <LukeNukem_> uhuh next
[05:12] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:   you can still install them to z:/whatever
[05:12] <hydrox24> then do to the drives tab
[05:12] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Did you reboot since installation?
[05:12] <dr_willis> but setting up W: to point to /media/whatever may be easier
[05:12] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: yes
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, im installing adobe programs, they are about 8 GB or so. i dont want to take that much space up from my linux partition
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, ok there
[05:13] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you could always link your .wine dir to be on that partition.
[05:13] <dr_willis> :)
[05:13] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: Then after going into the drives tab, click the add button
[05:13] <semitones> is it still best to install windows first, then ubuntu when you're dual booting?
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> dr_willis, i dont understand..
[05:13] <dr_willis> semitones:  yes.
[05:13] <hydrox24> semitones: very much so
[05:13] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, ok done
[05:13] <semitones> ok thanks :)
[05:13] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Is usbcore loaded? Not even sure if that still matters.
[05:13] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  someday explore 'soft links' and the 'ln -s' command.
[05:13] <g0kul> Kami__, mumble in terminal might work, dont know exactly
[05:14] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: now select which drive letter you want
[05:14] <LukeNukem_> D:
[05:14] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: yes it is
[05:14] <LukeNukem_> D:/
[05:14] <semitones> I tried booting from the Ubuntu Oneiric Disk, but after the loading dots, I got a mangled graphics screen :(
[05:14] <christiantarry> semitones:  why not run it as a VM
[05:14] <LinuxApprentice> bobo37773: do i need to write the config for modprobe?
[05:14] <bobo37773> Does modinfo ndiswrapper give you any info?
[05:14] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | semitones
[05:14] <Kami__> g0kul__, i see
[05:14] <semitones> christiantarry: game performance
[05:14] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: Then, after clicking OK, type /media/DIRVENAME into the editable bar below the list of drives
[05:14] <semitones> dr_willis: thanks a bunch :)
[05:15] <semitones> dr_willis: what does no_apic do?
[05:15] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: replacing DRIVENAME with the name of the ntfs partition/drive
[05:15] <dr_willis> semitones:  disabpes apic :)  whatever that is.. i cant recall. i used it years ago on a problem box.
[05:15] <haven> almoxarife: I have found the web paltalk. Thank you.
[05:15] <dr_willis> advances power interface control  (perhaps?)
[05:15] <LukeNukem_> path /Radioactive Zone
[05:16] <semitones> dr_willis: i ask because I had to use it with this motherboard years ago, and I wondered if I still needed it several versions of ubuntu later
[05:16] <hydrox24> semitones: it disable ACPI which controls power usage and interacts with the kernal
[05:16] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  spaces in the mountpoint may be problematic.
[05:16] <cheese1756> Hi. I have a headset that shows up just fine in alsamixer, but it doesn't show up in the sound menu
[05:16] <LukeNukem_> aw
[05:16] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: should be: /media/Radioactive zone
[05:16] <cheese1756> Any ideas?
[05:16] <semitones> hydrox24: any idea how I will know if i need to disable it? I had to before, but I can't remember why
[05:16] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  you Might want to relabel the disk  some time to be 'Radioactivezone' or similer. if this has issues.
[05:16] <bobo37773> LinuxApprentice: Did you do a "depmod -a" and then "update-modules" and reboot?
[05:16] <hydrox24> semitones: no, disabling it shouldn't be necassery except for debugging
[05:17] <semitones> hydrox24: alright, thanks
[05:17] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: it should now be configured
[05:17] <LukeNukem_> ok also i have windows on another partition, im dual booting..i want to remove it
[05:17] <blackbox> I am curious what people think of the meaning of life? What are we living for.
[05:17] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: remove windows?
[05:17] <LukeNukem_> yes
[05:18] <hydrox24> blackbox: try ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:18] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: NO experience in it, but is there any data you want off  windows first?
[05:18] <urlin2u> !ot > blackbox
[05:18] <LukeNukem_> blackbox, for drugs of course
[05:18] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, moved everything i need
[05:18] <bobo37773> hahaha
[05:18] <sharkmap> 42?
[05:18] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: can you tell us about your partition setup briefly?
[05:18] <sunson_> I install djbdns. It works for localhost. But times out when queried from the lan (ie., dig google.com @192.168.0.1 times out)
[05:19] <sunson_> what am I missing?
[05:19] <bobo37773> sunson_: Is djbdns a local domain name server daemon?
[05:20] <paraiso> I just did a bunch of updates and now Ubuntu doesn't "see" any wifi networks (including mine).  How do I fix this?
[05:21] <myndzi> reading "man boot"; it says init reads /etc/inittab - file does not exist. is there an accurate description of the ubuntu boot sequence somewhere? (preferably by version - lucid in specific at the moment though)
[05:21] <semitones> is there a way to tell Ubuntu NOT to install Grub when it installs?
[05:21] <dr_willis> LukeNukem_:  not all apps work 100% in wine.
[05:21] <brerrabbit> trying to administer a webserver on natty...do I need to set up bind in order to get the nameservers to work?
[05:21] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: just restarted, and the TTY's are working fine :)
[05:21] <semitones> just out of curiosity
[05:21] <brerrabbit> anybody know?
[05:21] <dr_willis> semitones:  i think theres a check box for that. but  i dont recall where.
[05:22] <dr_willis> semitones:  sort of annoying to insall an os and not be able to boot it. :)
[05:22] <hydrox24> semitones: I think ubuntu kinda needs it
[05:22] <JackAnansi> dr_willis: thanks for the help; you should really put it in a wiki somewhere for people. I've googled up and down all day for a solution
[05:22] <dr_willis> !nofb
[05:23] <hydrox24> I think that they need to have an ubuntu and ubuntu-advanced rather than a beginners channel
[05:23] <semitones> dr_willis: haha true. hydrox24 this is somewhat of an unusual case. I have ubuntu installed on another hard disk as well, and I could just update it to see the new hard disk
[05:23] <dr_willis> its on the framebuffer and grub wiki pages i belive.
[05:23] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: you there mate?
[05:24] <semitones> hydrox24: well, they do have #ubuntu-beginners
[05:24] <hydrox24> semitones: mm I know, I was suggeting they should ditch that because all the beginners come here anyway. Which is fine of course
[05:25] <sunson_> bobosomfan: is it? :)
[05:27] <semitones> hydrox24: i have a feeling like #ubuntu-advanced could become a trashcan for hard questions though... if it mostly attracts questions that can't be answered here, who would answer them?
[05:27] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, yeah was away
[05:28] <LukeNukem_> hydrox24, two ntfs, one ext4
[05:28] <LukeNukem_> one of the ntfs is windows..gonna get rid of it and change that to ext4
[05:28] <LukeNukem_> would change the second one to ext4 too if i had any means to backup the data in it but i dont
[05:29] <hydrox24> LukeNukem_: I would use gparted
[05:30] <semitones> hmm, it looks like the live cd can't detect my display/video card. can I somehow report that to ubuntu friendly?
[05:30] <dr_willis> should i point out the # of people in here we see a month that dont have backups... and lose their data. :)
[05:30] <dr_willis> semitones:  whats your video card/gpu?
[05:31] <semitones> dr_willis: i forget exactly -- what's the command that tells you? lspci?
[05:31] <dr_willis> yes.
[05:31] <dr_willis> hope its not a sis
[05:31] <hydrox24> semitones: make sure you use grep too, very verbose I think
[05:31] <hydrox24> brb
[05:32] <semitones> dr_willis: its an nVidia GT 240
[05:32] <head_victim> hydrox24: also, ubuntu-beginners has a dual role, it has an IRC presence for assistance but it's also centred around assist users integrate with different parts of the community. For example if people go there saying "I'd like to be more involved with Ubuntu what can I do" they are able to guide them to bug squads, documentation teams, MOTUs, etc.
[05:32] <dr_willis> semitones:  for some nvidia systems. I have to use the 'nomodeset' option,  on the live cd. you hit space when you see the man=keyboard image and its under f5 or f6
[05:33] <dr_willis> this factoid may show screen shots.
[05:33] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:33] <dr_willis> after insttalling system with nomodeset. i install nvidia drivers and normally it all works
[05:34] <semitones> dr_willis: ok. I did use nomodeset, but I kind of freaked out a little because it still didn't detect the video card. you're saying it should find it once the system is installed?
[05:34] <semitones> dr_willis: will jockey find the right drivers ordinarily
[05:36] <dr_willis> semitones:  thats the tool that does the job. :)
[05:36] <dr_willis> unless theres some bug. a sudo apt-get update,upgrade may fix any issues with jocky being brain dead
[05:38] <dr_willis> well i am out.. bye all
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse icon on boot?
[05:39] <semitones> as far as you know, is the version of gparted on the 11.10 disk bug-free?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> semitones: you have a problem on gparted?
[05:41] <agu10^> I've installed ubuntu 11.10 a few hours ago and I'm ALREADY having to edit the fucking xorg.conf file!
[05:42] <agu10^> after that, when ubuntu loads, it will freeze at the loading screen and remain unresponsive
[05:42] <semitones> lotuspsychje: no, but in previous versions of ubuntu, gparted had problems
[05:42] <agu10^> wtf should I do?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> semitones: oh okay
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> agu10^:swearing is not gonna help much here
[05:43] <agu10^> every time there's a new ubuntu version, I try it out... expecting to sometime in the future maybe find a version which isn't FULL OF BUGS and where I don't have to edit xorg.conf every few seconds
[05:43] <agu10^> I guess it's stupid to expect any improvement
[05:43] <agu10^> ubuntu will always remain ubuntu
[05:44] <agu10^> will always be for a few h4x0rs
[05:44] <agu10^> who prefer to spend time hacking the OS for basic functionality instead of developing something new...
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> agu10^: maybe you should pastebin your problem first before saying its an ubuntu fault...
[05:45] <agu10^> lotuspsychje, yea sure it's my fault now
[05:45] <hydrox24> agu10^: geeze mate, calm down
[05:45] <agu10^> anyways, I can't boot into ubuntu
[05:45] <hydrox24> ok, so does it simply hang?
[05:45] <agu10^> I'm on windows... yea windows always works
[05:45] <agu10^> hydrox24, yes... after the loading screen
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> agu10^:this is a help channel to findout your problem, share it or leave..
[05:47] <hydrox24> agu10^: what changes did you make to cause the issue
[05:47] <agu10^> I added subsection display 1920x1938
[05:47] <agu10^> or something like that... so that it would let me use the proper resolution
[05:47] <agu10^> which for some reason (bug) it wouldn't let me
[05:48] <ubluntu> wtf is 1920x1938 ?
[05:48] <ubluntu> 1920x1080
[05:48] <hydrox24> agu10^: see, it's not ubuntu
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:48] <osmosis> does the standard GUI install offer a full disk LVM encryption option?
[05:48] <hydrox24> agu10^: it's simply misconfiguration... we all do it sometimes.
[05:48] <osmosis> i only see encrypted home dirs
[05:48] <agu10^> hydrox24, sure... it's not ubuntu that doesn't let me use the proper resolution
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[05:48] <hydrox24> osmosis: not sure, but fedory offers full disk encryption I think
[05:49] <semitones> how big does a / partition have to be if I'm also making a /home partition?
[05:49] <ubluntu> agu10^:  add it using xrandr ,
[05:49] <agu10^> the only reason I need to edit xorg.conf is that ubuntu won't work properly out of the box
[05:49] <hydrox24> agu10^: Then you need to look the the manufacturers of video cards and screens for not supporting ubuntu properly.
[05:49] <agu10^> ubluntu, add what?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info xrandr
[05:49] <ubluntu> the resolution you want to use.
[05:49] <hydrox24> xrandr is a program to configure screen resolutions
[05:50] <agu10^> hydrox24, yes... do you think is a bug in ati drivers??
[05:50] <agu10^> oh well it probably is
[05:50] <ubluntu> lol
[05:50] <agu10^> before i updated drivers (installed amd's), they were working at proper resolution
[05:50] <Blue1> semitones it can be as little as 4G (not recommended) -- i made / 50G and I am using 50% so that will probably do well.
[05:50] <ubluntu> you are clearly clueless agu10^
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> semitones: size is yours to choose..
[05:51] <agu10^> ubluntu, can't use xrandr then?
[05:51] <ubluntu> why not ?
[05:51] <agu10^> !info xrandr
[05:51] <Blue1> agu10^: you didn't install the driver from the site, did you?
[05:51] <agu10^> Blue1, no
[05:51] <ubluntu> first of all the resolution 1920x1938 is stupid. what screen fits that resolution ?
[05:51] <agu10^> from ubuntu update manager
[05:51] <agu10^> ubluntu, 2 screens
[05:51] <agu10^> that's the virtual display or something
[05:51] <ubluntu> maj
[05:51] <Blue1> yeah that's a very odd size indeed.
[05:51] <ubluntu> nah lol
[05:52] <semitones> lotuspsychje: I just want to know how much the minimum installation is (4gb I just found out) and then guestimate how many more applications I could be installing (probably 3-4 GB) -- that's all that takes up lots of room on /, right?
[05:52] <agu10^> anyhow... how can I edit xorg.conf from windows?
[05:52] <ubluntu> 1920 x 1080 or 1366 x 768 is more appropriate.
[05:52] <semitones> agu10^: if you have ext4, you can't
[05:52] <agu10^> omg
[05:52] <agu10^> from a live pendrive?
[05:52] <Blue1> semitones you can get by with 10G, although I have installed ubuntu onto a usb drive of 8G (with x) and had no issues.
[05:52] <semitones> agu10^: yes you can do that
[05:53] <agu10^> :( i now have to reboot again
[05:53] <ejv> you don't really want to be editing config files from outside the environment, unless you chroot from rescue
[05:53] <ubluntu> why are you editing anything from windows
[05:53] <semitones> good luck!
[05:53] <ubluntu> *sigh* hopeless
[05:53] <agu10^> ubluntu, because windows is the only OS which seems to work without editing xorg.conf
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> agu10^: reinstall ubuntu with default resolution, after that install xrandr like ubluntu says
[05:53] <Blue1> what ejv said
[05:53] <ubluntu> you don't need to reinstall rap
[05:53] <ubluntu> crap*
[05:53] <ubluntu> just add the resolution you want to use and change to it using xrandr
[05:54] <ubluntu> plenty of guides online
[05:54] <ubluntu> tired of explaining it over and over again.
[05:54] <hydrox24> ubluntu: he can't boot...
[05:54] <agu10^> no way.. i won't reinstall ubuntu
[05:54] <ejv> face it, some people don't 'get it', move along if you like winOS, ubuntu isn't for everyone
[05:54] <agu10^> i'll use the live pendrive
[05:54] <ubluntu> well why can't you boot ? that has nothing to do with resolution,
[05:54] <Blue1> agu10^: sometimes the way forward, it to go back and do it correctly. -- (my experience)
[05:54] <agu10^> ejv, ubuntu is for people who like to reverse engineer for every step
[05:55] <agu10^> ubluntu, well xorg.conf is wrong, i guess
[05:55] <hydrox24> agu10^: no, it's for polite people with patience... please keep a lid on the sarcasm
[05:55] <ejv> if that's how you feel, I pity your perspective
[05:55] <ubluntu> n o
[05:55] <g0kul> happy reverse engineering  :)
[05:55] <ubluntu> gentoo is for people who like to deal with reverse engineering
[05:55] <Blue1> :-)
[05:55] <ubluntu> ubuntu is easy as windows lol.
[05:55] <agu10^> ubluntu, suuure
[05:55] <ejv> as a gentoo user, i also find that absurd.
[05:56] <Blue1> debian is very hard to configure
[05:56] <ubluntu> well gentoo takes a whole day to install
[05:56] <ubluntu> disagree ?
[05:56] <agu10^> as if in windows I had to open a terminal and edit text config files every second
[05:56] <Blue1> but I have sucessfully done it.
[05:56] <hydrox24> agu10^: look, can you get into a terminal once it has "hung" via ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ejv: i installed ubuntu for my 70 years aunte, she works fine with it :p
[05:56] <gartral> I need a virtual cables-like program that's compatible with PulseAudio..
[05:56] <agu10^> hydrox24, not even that
[05:56] <ejv> please don't be spreading FUD ubluntu
[05:56] <ubluntu> FUD ?\
[05:56] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: my folks who are in there 80's have been using ubuntu for 3 years now.
[05:56] <ejv> fear, uncertainty, doubt.
[05:57] <ubluntu> and btw please know in advance idc what you think ;-)
[05:57] <hydrox24> guys, back onto helping people please!
[05:57] <gartral> ubluntu: that's not a very good attitude for this channel
[05:57] <ubluntu> gentoo = a whole day to install / configure to a useable point ( tried it before )
[05:57] <agu10^> Blue1, because they only use gedit and i bet they don't even have the proper screen resolution
[05:57] <agu10^> plus no wifi
[05:57] <agu10^> not even right click :P
[05:57] <hydrox24> BACK TO HELPING PEOPLE!
[05:57] <ejv> if it took you a whole day, it's a problem with you, not the distro or your system. PEBCAK.
[05:57] <ubluntu> nah
[05:57] <ubluntu> stop being so elitist
[05:58] <Blue1> agu10^: everything works -- email, browsing, dvd playing, music --
[05:58] <gartral> !help
[05:58] <ubluntu> you know it takes forever to install gentoo
[05:58] <hydrox24> ubluntu: the pair of you!
[05:58] <agu10^> Blue1, everything works // barely works
[05:58] <Blue1> but hey if sarcasam is your suit, I'll bow out now.  we'll help you, but please don't cop an attitude.
[05:58] <ubluntu> people act like cause they use gentoo they are the sh!t
[05:58] <agu10^> unless they have a h4x0r who would install and patch every bug
[05:58] <agu10^> or some of them at least
[05:58] <gartral> !help | ubluntu
[05:59] <ubluntu> gartral: that was not relevant
[05:59] <hydrox24> !kick
[05:59] <Blue1> indeed
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info cowsay
[05:59] <hydrox24> Blue1: I reckon
[05:59] <semitones> Ok, right now, my partition plan is 10GB for /, 20GB for /home, 200 MB for /boot, and 8 GB for swap, sound good?
[05:59] <ubluntu> gartral: do try to refrain from usinb ubotu for no reason
[05:59] <ubluntu> usng *
[05:59] <agu10^> Blue1, okay... those stories are complete bullshit. Ubuntu does *NOT* run out of the box except maybe for a single computer or system configuration which happened to be the one somebody at canonical tested
[05:59] <ubluntu> lmao. using *
[06:00] <Blue1> semitones how big is your hard drive?
[06:00] <gartral> !ops | LubuntuPowered
[06:00] <ubluntu> lol
[06:00] <ubluntu> this dude is really stupid
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: nice, i also always liked ubuntu
[06:00] <gartral> see how long you last..
[06:00] <Blue1> agu10^: whatever
[06:00] <hydrox24> ubluntu: we need you to leave or start being helpful please
[06:01] <ubluntu> no one needs help right now.
[06:01] <hydrox24> same goes for you agu10^
[06:01] <semitones> Blue1: big, but most of it I'm keeping in windows for Steam Games
[06:01] <agu10^> Blue1, there hasn't been any ubuntu installation where I didn't have to manually edit xorg.conf
[06:01] <hydrox24> ubluntu: you do.
[06:01] <agu10^> oh
[06:01] <ubluntu> your momma does lol
[06:01] <hydrox24> agu10^: you shouldnt be using xorg.conf!
[06:01] <agu10^> reboot and come back... brb
[06:01] <hydrox24> it's practically depreceted in 11.10
[06:01] <Guest28545> does anyone know for sure if ubuntu will run live with uefi bios?
[06:01] <ubluntu> hydrox24: go eat a cookie
[06:01] <agu10^> hydrox24, right, it's 1980... back to terminal
[06:01] <agu10^> hydrox24, what do you mean?
[06:02] <Blue1> semitones dunno what steamgames are -- but if you made root say 50-75G and /home/ say 100 G that gives you plenty of room to grow.
[06:02] <ejv> honestly a complete newcomer, just following the online documentation step-by-step with a recent CPU, would take max 3~6 hours, just doing the basic steps. not 24 hours or longer. that's just weird and strangely laughable.
[06:02] <agu10^> ejv, not really... that would take for ubuntu in the BEST case scenario
[06:02] <Blue1> ejv: i have talked people through an install -- it prolly take 4 hours would be my guess from start to finishing updating.
[06:03] <semitones> Blue1: what kind of things take up space in root? I thought most everything goes in /home
[06:03] <ejv> the exceptions are if you pull a vanilla kernel from upstream, apply your own set of patches, and try to compile support for a bleeding edge 7970 or something of the sort.
[06:03] <ejv> my thoughts exactly Blue1
[06:03] <agu10^> yes, everybody can install a working OS as long as they're willing to fix every bug themselves.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> oO
[06:03] <urlin2u> Guest28545, you might start a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[06:03] <hydrox24> !ops
[06:04] <agu10^> why if a problem can be manually solved via configuration, the script is NOT included in the installation?
[06:04] <Guest28545> I was just thinking that.
[06:04] <Blue1> semitones mostly programmes that you install - a baseline system with no bells and whistles (but still has X) is prolly around 3-4G for root.  I have a lot of stuff installed on this machine (server) and a 50Gpartition and have only used 50% (ubuntu 10.10 btw)
[06:04] <joeko> can i findout the ip address of an interface by using the proc file system
[06:05] <Guest28545> I'd like to be a little more sure with this bare/ new box before trying it
[06:05] <semitones> ah ok -- whoa you must have many applications installed!
[06:05] <Blue1> Guest28545: you might download a ubuntu live cd then try it out before you install.  don't like it - take out the cd, reboot -- it vanishes
[06:06] <gartral> everyone, for now, use /ignore ubluntu (if you havent already)
[06:06] <Blue1> semitones indeed -- but 50G is plenty
[06:07] <gartral> I need a virtual cables-like program that's compatible with PulseAudio..
[06:07] <hydrox24> gartral: try out jack
[06:07] <hydrox24> gartral: and the related plugins/modules
[06:07] <Guest28545> right. I just built this thing and fired it up for the first time not long ago. It's bare w/ no os on it. I just wanted to be more sure before trying it (because of the uefi bios). I'm trying to avoid a lot of hard shutdowns.
[06:08] <ubluntu> let me tell you something Guest28545 uefi bios = stupid
[06:08] <ejv> joeko: getifaddrs
[06:08] <gartral> hydrox24: working with *VERY* limited disk-space here. would prefer not too reconfigure my system for jack
[06:08] <hydrox24> gartral: I think you
[06:09] <Guest28545> ohh
[06:09] <Guest28545> c'mon now
[06:09] <hydrox24> gartral: I think you'll be pushing your luck for what you want then
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> joeko: etherape is pretty handy for network discovery
[06:09] <hydrox24> Guest28545: I think that it will work. My ASUS desktop with UEFI works fine
[06:09] <hydrox24> with a live USB or a full ubuntu install
[06:09] <Guest28545> ok
[06:10] <ubluntu> lol all you kids have no idea ;\
[06:10] <hydrox24> can an op please kick ubluntu?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> gatral: ubluntu does nothing wrong here
[06:10] <Guest28545> well, I'm gonna read up on it a little then maybe giver er' a try.
[06:10] <Guest28545> thanks
[06:10] <ubluntu> hydrox24: lol.
[06:10] <hydrox24> Guest28545: sorry about the little in-fighting that is happening
[06:10] <joeko> lotuspsychje, Hi i am trying to get the mac address for use in a install script
[06:10] <ubluntu> !ops | ubluntu
[06:10] <hydrox24> ubluntu: you gonna be "nice" now and just help people...?
[06:11] <ubluntu> no.
[06:11] <ejv> unfortunately you can't kick people for being dumb hydrox24, you can /ignore though
[06:11] <hydrox24> !ops | hydrox24
[06:11] <ubluntu> I am also not dumb ejv  but thanks for being a d!ck
[06:11] <ubluntu> thats why ubuntu sucks anymore
[06:11] <Guest28545> ahh well, it happens. You oughta check out ##programming  --total madness!
[06:11] <Guest28545> :)
[06:11] <ubluntu> people like you
[06:11] <ubluntu> so full of the rules
[06:11] <ubluntu> yet you know nothing
[06:12] <ubluntu> its pixels on a screen. get over it
[06:12] <danielboston26> hi
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:12] <Blue1> hello
[06:13] <danielboston26> anyone here familar with dual booting xubuntu or something similar with a powermac G3 B&W
[06:13] <ejv> joeko: /proc/net/arp
[06:13] <horny-sama> need some help with the source list http://pastebin.com/K2x9gCrN
[06:13] <Blue1> danielboston26: not I -- dont use a mac --
[06:13] <danielboston26> anyone?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse icon at boot (square-like mouse icon)?
[06:13] <FollowingFly> IRC is dos?
[06:13] <ejv> !patience | danielboston26
[06:14] <FollowingFly> irc is windows 3.1
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !mac
[06:15] <FollowingFly> Love Windows! 7-8
[06:15] <deper29> I'm having some trouble and wondering if someone can help. I recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 from 11.10. when I boot, I have to hit e to edit and add "nomodeset" after quiet splash in order to get something besides a black screen
[06:15]  * Blue1 has a love/hate relationship with windows
[06:15] <deper29> is it possible to have it automatically do that every time I log in?
[06:15] <Jeremy3D> is there any way to reset my display settings? i was using a tv as a second monitor, got all my settings messed up (not using tv anymore) and now a bunch of things look weird. ie- the home folder is a gray scale type window
[06:15] <FollowingFly> i quit 2
[06:16] <Blue1> deper29: did you upgrade or install fresh?  upgrades can be problematic
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: me neither :p
[06:16] <deper29> Blue1: I upgraded
[06:17] <Blue1> deper29: :-( I have had problems with that, so I backup /home and /etc and install fresh
[06:17] <deper29> Blue1: I had this problem before when I tried to do a clean install. I just installed 10.04 as a work around
[06:17] <Blue1> deper29: yeah that's a viable work around - I had problems with 11.04 so went back to 10.10 on one machine, and to debian on the other.
[06:18] <cipher__> Can I easily change the Ubuntu splash / boot screen?
[06:18] <deper29> Blue1: so a fresh install doesn't seem to be my fix. the nomodeset thing fixes it, but i have to edit each time I boot on. is there a way to have that happen all the time?
[06:18] <Blue1> hmm dunno
[06:18] <Guest28545> Peace out fellas. Try not to have too much fun  ;)
[06:19] <blackbox> hey , is it still possible to wget a whole site like wikipedia even when I try it with wget -f -k -r -l -p -c -w --waitretry ,...etc doesn't seem to download anything but the index page for wikipedia but for other sites it works fine? Do they have some IDS or something setup to somehow prevent this in someway ?
[06:19] <deper29> Blue1: my other question, when I finally do get to boot, my resolution is all weird. I install nvidia-current,but that doesn't seem to fix anything. should I maybe try the nvidia propietary binary drivers?
[06:19] <hydrox24> blackbox: wikipedia provides backup files if you want to f=download all of it but they request against trawling their wiki
[06:20] <YASIN> i need a script for limiting download rate of a user in ubuntu(traffic controller), i had tested a lot but the rate wo'nt be limited no matter what! can someone help me out?plz
[06:20] <hydrox24> deper29: maybe, but remove any prior nvidia stuff first
[06:20] <deper29> hydrox24: so, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current?
[06:20] <Blue1> deper29: this looks good:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132  skip down to how to permanently set kernel boot options
[06:21] <deper29> Blue1: thanks :D
[06:21] <Blue1> deper29: you owe me a cup of coffee
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | deper29
[06:22] <Jeremy3D> anyone know how to reset factory display settings?
[06:22] <YASIN> i need a script for limiting download rate of a user in ubuntu(traffic controller), i had tested a lot but the rate wo'nt be limited no matter what! can someone help me out?plz
[06:22] <ejv> !patience | YASIN
[06:23] <urlin2u> Jeremy3D, you get ubuntu from a factory?
[06:23] <YASIN> tnx
[06:23] <deper29> Blue1: sounds good :P
[06:23] <deper29> lotuspsychje: thanks! I'll read this :)
[06:23] <YASIN> i had searched a lot but no script work for me,i need a script for limiting download rate of a user in ubuntu(traffic controller), i had tested a lot but the rate wo'nt be limited no matter what! can someone help me out?plz
[06:23] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, yup
[06:24] <agu10^> Hey
[06:24] <agu10^> I accidentally remu
[06:24] <urlin2u> Jeremy3D, really who is the manufacturer?
[06:24] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, i got it from the Linux Store
[06:25] <agu10^> Command to get /etc/X11/X back???
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !traffic
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !limit
[06:26] <bobo37773> YASIN: You mean like this:   http://pastie.org/3267934
[06:27] <Kimble> When I log into a shell over SSH, I always get the Welcome To Ubuntu message, plus 10 odd lines of info. Where is this set? I've tried .bash_profile, /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc, .bashrc and .profile - I don't see it.
[06:27] <deper29> Blue1: another quick question hopefully: when I boot, it takes a while until anything happens. about twenty seconds. i get something saying 15.something and says hardware codecs not initialized...know what that means and why it takes long to boot?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse icon at boot (square-like mouse icon)?
 thank u, but i've tested this one too but it doesn't limit the rate,do I need sth more to get it work?like install sth?
[06:28] <urlin2u> Jeremy3D, you might try just asking about the problem, factory settings here is not common.
[06:28] <breaker313> hi
[06:28] <bobo37773> YASIN: I works. I use it all the time.
[06:29] <hydrox24> breaker313: hi!
[06:29] <bobo37773> breaker313: hey
[06:29] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, i already did, go back and read
[06:29] <breaker313> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.0 on my pc, but after the menu choosing one option the installation hungs up
[06:29] <breaker313> ubuntu 11.10
[06:30] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, "Jeremy3D> is there any way to reset my display settings? i was using a tv as a second monitor, got all my settings messed up (not using tv anymore) and now a bunch of things look weird. ie- the home folder is a gray scale type window"
[06:30] <urlin2u> Jeremy3D, good luck with that attitude, lol.
[06:30] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, shut up. i asked a question and you're acting like an idiot
[06:30] <Kimble> urlin2u: be nice.
[06:30] <urlin2u> Jeremy3D, just mirroring you.
[06:30] <breaker313> I tried it with an USB Stick, DVD and other Linuxs but nothing worked for me
[06:30] <Jeremy3D> urlin2u, if you don't have something hopeful to say then don't crowd up the channel with your pessisism
[06:31] <Jeremy3D> useful*
[06:31] <urlin2u> lol
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> whats with this channel these days
[06:31] <Jeremy3D> douche people like urlin2u
[06:31] <Kimble> Jeremy3D: don't prolong the conflict. Move along...
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> urlin2u supports here every day
[06:32] <Jeremy3D> 10-4 Kimble
[06:32] <Jeremy3D> lotuspsychje, his sarcasm and comments are not helpful.
[06:32] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Calm down buddy. Your problem is that you cannot reset your monitor resolution or what?
[06:32] <Jeremy3D> can anyone help me get my monitor and display settings back to the original settings?
[06:33] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, not sure what the deal is but ever since i changed the resolution for the tv, now my regular monitor is weird
[06:33] <Kimble> So: the "Welcome to Ubuntu" message on SSH login - where is this set/defined?
[06:33] <urlin2u> !xrandr
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> jeremy3D: if you gonna tell every supporter they need to go back and read, no one gonna help you
[06:33] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Are you using mutliple monitors simultaneously? Or switching back and forth?
[06:34] <deper29> urlin2u: just gonna come out and say that you are an extremely helpful person :)
[06:34] <sixcorners> Kimble: is it /etc/motd ?
[06:34] <urlin2u> deper29, we all have our days no biggie.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> urlin2u: tnx for trigger we needed it 30min ago, tryin !info xrandr
[06:34] <Kimble> sixcorners: man, i bet it is, too. Why didn't I check that? hang on...
[06:35] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, i was switching but i've given up on using the tv as a monitor;. gonna just stick to the one for now
which interface i should use here?
[06:35] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: ok and the one you switched back too does not have the resolution you want. Is that correct?
[06:36] <Jeremy3D> lotuspsychje, this isn't supportive "<urlin2u> Jeremy3D, you get ubuntu from a factory?" nor is this helpful "<urlin2u> Jeremy3D, really who is the manufacturer?" especially since he didn't bother to read the original question but just chimed in to be an ass. drop the subject pls
[06:36] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, correct. it seems to be set right but my folders, menus, etc are in a gray scale and i get an error message when i first log on
[06:36] <agu10^_> I can't find xrandr for ubuntu!
[06:36] <bobo37773> YASIN: You can change it too whatever you want. It is the IF variable.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | agu10^
[06:37] <agu10^_> why can't I fix my screen resolution? I'm using ati drivers
[06:37] <rebbell> Is there a thing for Linux where I can undelete files on an NTFS drive
[06:37] <urlin2u> agu10^, xrandr is used in the terminal to change resolutions
[06:37] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Grey scale? Are you using nvidia or ati? Open source or binary?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !extundelete | rebbell
[06:38] <YASIN> i know.but is IF the interface connected to the internet or the one connected to the local network?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !info extundelete
[06:38] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: By binary I mean the binary blob (proprietary driver)
 i know.but is IF the interface connected to the internet or the one connected to the local network?
[06:38] <agu10^_> lotuspsychje: okay, but where do i get xrandr ?
[06:38] <rebbell> thanks, but does it work on NTFS partitions
[06:38] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, ati amdcccle
[06:38] <evoandroidevo> ok i was installing ubuntu off a live usb so i turned off my computer and reinstalled but grub is not installed anyhelp
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> rebbell: its worth a try on /media/yourdrive...
[06:39] <evoandroidevo> and it froze for got that
[06:39] <rebbell> alright, I'll try it
[06:39] <bobo37773> YASIN: It is the one on the machine that the script is being run from. The one that is connected to the network on your end.
[06:39] <evoandroidevo> the first time
[06:39] <urlin2u> agu10^, as an example   xrandr -s 1024x768
[06:39] <rebbell> does ubuntu live cd have ntfsundelete
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info ntfsundelete
[06:40] <rebbell> maybe it is in ntfsprogs?
[06:40] <Kimble> sixcorners: thanks. you were right. I'm on the right track now. :)
[06:41] <sixcorners> Kimble: anytime
[06:41] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Are you using catalyst or the open source driver?
[06:41] <urlin2u> rebbell, so what are you trying to do?
 tnx.one more thing.do i need to install iproute2 package?u see I'm new to this, but the commands such as ifconfig work on my machine(if it help u answer my question)?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> rebbell: i would try extundelete /media/yourpartition --restore-all
[06:41] <agu10^_> OKAY... i have xrandr. now how am I supposed to change my screen resolution? and why can't the GUI do it???????
[06:41] <evoandroidevo> ok i was installing ubuntu off a live usb and it froze the first time so i turned off my computer and reinstalled but now it just boots in to windows and grub is not installed anyhelp
[06:42] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, catalyst
[06:42] <agu10^_> why is there a GUI that CAN'T change my screen resolution??
[06:42] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, when i open it the multi-display tab is highlighted and the only option is Single Display Desktop (Multi-Desktop)
[06:42] <rebbell> alright tryin now
[06:43] <agu10^_> "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[06:43] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Is it a laptop?
[06:43] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, no desktop. and Default button is grayed out
[06:45] <evoandroidevo> anyone?
[06:45] <agu10^_> "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
 tnx.one more thing.do i need to install iproute2 package?u see I'm new to this, but the commands such as ifconfig work on my machine(if it help u answer my question)?
[06:46] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Try to reset resolution in a terminal with xrandr. Do you know what the resolution is suppose to be?
[06:46] <urlin2u> evoandroidevo, jif it is just missing grub you will need to boot the install usb, do that and show a screenshot opf gparted again.
[06:46] <agu10^_> I bet Jeremy3D has the same problem?
[06:46] <bobo37773> YASIN: Yes I think so.
[06:46] <agu10^_> Jeremy3D: do you get this? "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[06:46] <bobo37773> YASIN: It is installed on my machine.
[06:47] <phong_> is there antivirus for ubuntu?
[06:47] <urlin2u> !av
[06:47] <YASIN> tnx
[06:47] <bobo37773> YASIN: Make sure you read the additional commands you need to run. I put them at the top. There are 3 of them.
[06:47] <urlin2u> phong_, ^^
[06:47] <agu10^_> bobo37773: do you have any idea how to solve my issue? when I try to change screen resolution through the GUI, I get that error message.
[06:47] <phong_> ok
[06:48] <bobo37773> agu10^_: What was the command you run?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | phong_
[06:48] <urlin2u> !grub | evoandroidevo
[06:48] <agu10^_> bobo37773: no command. using GUI
[06:48] <agu10^_> settings > display > resolution!
[06:48] <agu10^_> and I get this error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[06:49] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, yes
[06:49] <agu10^_> why is ubuntu not letting me use the proper screen resolution?
[06:49] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: What is it?
[06:50] <Jeremy3D> agu10^, do i get that error when? i'm not using two monitors anymore
[06:50] <bobo37773> agu10^_: Try xrandr.
[06:50] <Jeremy3D> 1440x900
[06:50] <agu10^_> bobo37773: try what exactly?
[06:50] <agu10^_> bobo37773: it's not very intuitive
[06:50] <Jeremy3D> xrandr -s 1440x900 doesnt seem to do anything
[06:51] <bobo37773> Jeremy3D: Maybe you need to create a new Xorg.conf
[06:51] <agu10^_> I'm not just going to throw random commands at xrandr
[06:51] <agu10^_> because it will crash my x server
[06:52] <hydrox24> agu10^_: try using the cvt command to generate a resolution command thingo
[06:52] <Jeremy3D> bobo37773, alright well that's for another time. thanks for the help, i need to hit the hay
[06:52] <urlin2u> agu10^, you might try the ##linux channel as well they are pretty savvy there. :D
[06:52] <bobo37773> agu10^_: xrandr -s 1920x1080         <-- Where 1920x1080 is the resolution you want
[06:52] <agu10^_> omg
[06:52] <agu10^_> so there is no way without this primitive hax0r stuff?
[06:52] <agu10^_> i just wanna use the proper screen resolution, for god's sake
[06:53] <bobo37773> agu10^_: Primitive? Guis are primitive
[06:53] <hydrox24> agu10^_: well honestly your trying to do some strange stuff on top of the fact that linux has never been great with dual monitors
[06:53] <agu10^_> bobo37773: it says right there...
[06:53] <hydrox24> bobo37773: don't start that...
[06:53] <agu10^_> 'primitive randr interface'
[06:53] <agu10^_> owned
when i enter every line of script,  I'll get this error: "RTNetlink answers:opration not permitted" ------ why?how can i fix it?
[06:53] <hydrox24> ok ok
[06:53] <bobo37773> hahahaha
[06:53] <hydrox24> fair enough
[06:54] <agu10^_> "xrandr - primitive command line interface to RandR extension"
[06:54] <Guest61242> blank print getting from open office spread sheet ubuntu 10.04 ?
[06:54] <bobo37773> agu10^_: You got me hahaha
[06:54] <agu10^_> anyways... why is ubuntu preventing me from applying the right resolution?
[06:55] <agu10^_> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[06:55] <agu10^_> what is a VIRTUAL SIZE ?
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | agu10^
when i enter every line of script,  I'll get this error: "RTNetlink answers:opration not permitted" ------ why?how can i fix it?
[06:56] <bobo37773> YASIN: I do not remember all of the dependencies. I have --> iproute2 dsniff epic4 -- some other stuff too not sure. Did you run all 3 commands and then script as root?
[06:57] <hydrox24> agu10^: I apologize for the complexity required to fix this, but look at http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Dual_Monitors
[06:57] <hydrox24> agu10^: so do you have a desktop with two physical monitors connected via VGA?
 u mean line 8,9,10?what do they mean?sorry plz be patient with me ,i'm a newbe
[06:59] <ParkerR> agu10^, :D
[06:59] <zero_> blank print getting from open office spread sheet ubuntu 10.04 ?
[07:02] <bobo37773> YASIN: I am back. Do you want to pm?
[07:02] <YASIN> yeahm what shoul i do?
yeah what should i do?
[07:03] <d00m> any body has some clue about running john single threaded?
 u mean line 8,9,10?what do they mean?sorry plz be patient with me ,i'm a newbe
[07:04] <d00m> !kvm
[07:06] <paraiso> I did some updates and now Ubuntu won't connect to wifi.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:07] <LukeNukem_> OMG
[07:07] <LukeNukem_> i dont see my dvd drive on file manager on ubuntu
[07:07] <LukeNukem_> :O
[07:08] <LukeNukem_> anyone have any idea how to make it appear?
[07:08] <g0kul> try putting a dvd in it
[07:08] <LukeNukem_> i did
[07:09] <LukeNukem_> either way, i should be able to see the icon of it in file manager
[07:09] <LukeNukem_> g0kul, south or north?
[07:10] <geoffmcc> LukeNukem_: wont help your problem, but (at least in 11.10) my dvd drive does not show up in file manager until it is reading a disk.
[07:10] <mia> hi
[07:10] <LukeNukem_> geoffmcc, is this a bug, i hear 11.10 has a lot bugs
[07:11] <geoffmcc> LukeNukem_: no, just sounds to me like your dvd drive is not reading the disk
[07:11] <LukeNukem_> it takes a whil e ;p
[07:15] <tiox> [priority: low] I've encountered a rather strange bug with Grub. For some reason or another, even though my USB drive with an alternate installation of a Linux system is disconnected and nowhere near my machine, Grub still sees the drive mounted on /dev/sdb2.
[07:15] <tiox> Which means, each time I boot up, the drive is seen, even though it really isn't there.
[07:16] <chris__> LukeNukem, sudo apt-get install mountmanager
[07:19] <tiox> I don't know exactly what is going on here. If I rebooted into it, would it fix this nagging issue?
[07:19] <agu10^> Ubuntu sucks at even using screens at proper resolution
[07:19] <tiox> agu10^: sudo apt-get install arandr
[07:19] <tiox> Thank me later.
[07:20] <tiox> If you did not catch agu10^, install the arandr package and play with resolution settings there.
[07:21] <agu10^> Thx
[07:22] <tiox> agu10^: Ubuntu sucks about as much as Windows. I know from experience, when I upgraded the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator on his Windows Vista installation, I couldn't make his HDTV fit exactly within the screen. His laptop uses a non-standard resolution, which for some reason confuses Windows and is teh suxxorz.
[07:22] <agu10^> Randr extension missing
[07:23] <tiox> What??
[07:23] <tiox> Go into a term and type in whereis xrandr
[07:23] <tiox> Is the output "xrandr: /usr/bin/xrandr /usr/share/man/man1/xrandr.1.gz"?
[07:23] <agu10^> Xrandr is there
[07:23] <tiox> I mean, f the man page is detected, then the packages for it are installed.
[07:24] <tiox> Hmmm... what's your video card?
[07:24] <agu10^> Arandr says randr is not there
[07:24] <agu10^> Ati radeon 5730
[07:24] <tiox> That's poppycock. You have all the stuff for your ATI video card to function installed right?
[07:25] <tiox> I am not entirely sure about you as I use Intel video on my laptop -- No choice.
[07:25] <agu10^> Yea
[07:25] <almoxarife> tiox: stuff? what stuff?
[07:25] <tiox> Aren't there specific software packages for ATI?
[07:26] <agu10^> I have therm
[07:26] <agu10^> The drivers
[07:27] <almoxarife> agu10^: share your problem again if you dont mind
[07:27] <tiox> Hmmm... someone enlighten me here. Would his drivers somehow take precedence over xrandr, and disable randr for any reason?
[07:29] <agu10^_> almoxarife: whenever I try to set the proper resolution for my second screen, I get this error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1920, 1968), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[07:29] <evilbug> yesterday my 11.10 started loading the desktop improperly. the system bar doesn't load as the regular black one with all the widgets and instead comes up as the regular white gnome bar. didn't install anything new, just started doing that and installing any updates after didn't help. any clues?
[07:29] <Mayank> Hi anyone knows about a similar program/utility like Connectify for Windows. It allows me to setup my machine as a Wifi Router. I do not want to setup an AdHoc.
[07:30] <agu10^_> ubuntu is unusable :/
[07:30] <Blue1> Mayank: wicd?
[07:31] <Blue1> dunno the windows programme - sorry...
[07:31] <agu10^_> fuck you, ubuntu! 5 hours just trying to get a screen at proper resolution
[07:31] <tiox> See agu10^_, the reason I suggested arandr is because it's an easy-to-use utility to fix that sort of thing.
[07:31] <tiox> But, it seems it's being problematic in your PC.
[07:31] <agu10^_> tiox: except it doesn't even run
[07:32] <tiox> Mind, I haver had this problem with randr EVER, so some patience and dilligence will get you what you want eventually.
[07:32] <evilbug> agu10^_: rough day :)
[07:32] <almoxarife> agu10^_: what the graphics?
[07:32] <agu10^_> oh, arandr opened now
[07:32] <tiox> !ohmy | agu10^_
[07:32] <agu10^_> it shows a screen layout editor
[07:32] <tiox> There you go.
[07:32] <Mayank> Blue1: but will it let me use my machine's wifi as a wifi router? I want to share my LAN connection with the WIFI . I can do this by setting up a adhoc network, but I dont want to do that. thus checking for a program that would let me make my machine a wireless router.
[07:32] <agu10^_> almoxarife: ati radeon 5730
[07:32] <Blue1> so no stfu I guess
[07:33] <g0kul> someone should kick him out
[07:33] <tiox> Now from there, lemme run it so I know what I am doing...
[07:33] <semitones> I have a boot error "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present." should I press M for manual recovery?
[07:33] <tiox> Look under outputs.
[07:33] <agu10^_> tiox: are you talking to me?
[07:33] <agu10^_> there's no outputs
[07:33] <Blue1> Mayank: Idon't think so, however it does allow me to use the wireless connect, while allowing me to plug another computer into the ethernet port.
[07:33] <tiox> Yep. Sounds like you have arandr going.
[07:34] <almoxarife> agu10^_: what drivers did you use?
[07:34] <tiox> SO under outputs, the second monitor, or whatever is not seen?
[07:34] <agu10^_> almoxarife: amd's
[07:34] <agu10^_> fldrl or something
[07:34] <agu10^_> tiox: yes they are seen
[07:34] <tiox> flrgx?
[07:35] <almoxarife> agu10^_: specifics, not flrgx?
[07:35] <agu10^_> but for some reason they're inside a square that's not big enough to fit both
[07:35] <tiox> Alright, if that is the case, then switch on the one you want active.
[07:35] <agu10^_> almoxarife: what?
[07:35] <tiox> Then after that, adjust the screens to what you like. The one closest to the top left is primary monitor.
[07:35] <almoxarife> agu10^_: specifics, not flrgx? , the drivers you installed???
[07:35] <agu10^_> tiox: man, i want both active
[07:36] <agu10^_> almoxarife: flrgx
[07:36] <agu10^_> what's specifics?
[07:36] <tiox> Then under the Outputs menu of arandr, see if you can't flip the blasted monitor on!
[07:36] <agu10^_> tiox: they're both on. at wrong resolution
[07:36] <almoxarife> agu10^_: can you pastebin Xorg.0.log
[07:36] <kasii> hi
[07:36] <tiox> Then adjust the resolution.
[07:36] <agu10^_> there's a square of 1920x1920. both screens won't fit in there at proper resolution
[07:36] <tiox> Each monitor type has different resolution submenus.
[07:37] <agu10^_> almoxarife: where is it?
[07:37] <tiox> Oh... well that makes me the bally cad now doesn't it? I'm practically tier-1 support (asoftware only) so I'm out as far as helkping you.
[07:37] <agu10^_> tiox: i adjusted both resolutions
[07:37] <tiox> helping*
[07:37] <almoxarife> agu10^_: /var/log/
[07:38] <urlin2u> semitones, this sudden any background on this problem?
[07:38] <almoxarife> tiox: how about adding the nick of who you are wakking at!
[07:38] <AndChat-> hi
[07:39] <agu10^_> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/YdN4Br7L
[07:39] <semitones> urlin2u: yes, I just added a second hard drive I want to migrate to, and installed ubuntu to it. I think grub might have gotten borked a little somehow
[07:39] <Phong_> hi
[07:39] <agu10^_> tiox: I will paste a screenshot so you can see
[07:39] <urlin2u> semitones, do you have a master slave setup, and did you put the new on in the master?
[07:40] <semitones> urlin2u: I don't think so. The old one was SATA4 and the new one is on SATA3
[07:41] <evilbug> help?
[07:41] <urlin2u> semitones, best way for me to see is if you run this script from a live cd pastebin the results.txt it is a what is where. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[07:41] <agu10^_> tiox: http://imagebin.org/196005
[07:41] <agu10^_> almoxarife: http://imagebin.org/196005
[07:41] <semitones> urlin2u: sure i guess hold on
[07:43] <agu10^_> See the arandr? it limits me to 1920x1920 square... I have no idea why.
[07:43] <urlin2u> semitones, could be as simple as the wrong drive is read first.
[07:43] <semitones> urlin2u: ah, k
[07:44] <tiox> Interesting. I've got to figure out the next command I want you to type, might be what's in the way, not entirely sure.
[07:44] <tiox> Like Aperture Science, I throw stuff to the wall and see what sticks!
[07:45] <agu10^_> okay now if I set the proper resolution, one part of the lower screen is duplicated on the upper screen
[07:45] <agu10^_> because for some reason they both have to be inside a 1920x1920 area...
[07:45] <agu10^_> which doesn't remotely happen in windows
[07:46] <agu10^_> Idk what's ubuntu's issue that wants a "virtual" space of only 1920x1920
[07:46] <almoxarife> agu10^_: you installed another driver besides fglrx??
[07:46] <subb1> hi
[07:46] <agu10^_> almoxarife: nope
[07:46] <agu10^_> almoxarife: i installed ATI's fglrx
[07:46] <agu10^_> AMD's
[07:46] <subb1> after running 'UPdate Manager' where does all the packages get downld? and after installing them, do they get delete automatically?
[07:47] <agu10^_> "fglrx 2:8.881-0ubuntu4.1" Proprietary. Comes with AMD Catalyst Center
[07:48] <evilbug> actually my entire gui won't load properly anymore, just loads a basic gnome theme. any clues why?
[07:49] <agu10^_> I'm removing AMD's driver
[07:49] <agu10^_> in case it is what sucks
[07:49] <agu10^_> can I still get 3D acceleration without it?
[07:49] <agu10^_> what's the advantage of using ATI's buggy drivers?
[07:50] <tiox> Aside form 3D acceleration? Could not tell you.
[07:50]  * tiox shrugs
[07:50] <agu10^_> tiox: can't i use 3d acceleration without it?
[07:50] <zarbula> ubuntu, looking for a good easy guide to setting up my own name servers.. my Bind server isn't working and the default ubuntu guide isn't really helping
[07:51] <tiox> It's possible. Tinker with it some. Remember, none of us here are paid support.
[07:51] <azriel> I would like do download a video from mylifetime.com would anyone know how to do this?
[07:51] <treshoem> zarbula: is bind installed?
[07:51] <tiox> Especially for hardware issues with proprietary drivers.
[07:51] <tiox> Wait a sec...
[07:51] <tiox> agu10^_: Could you access the catalyst center?
[07:51] <zarbula> treshoem: yes
[07:52] <treshoem> zarbula: is it answering queries from the localhost?
[07:52] <tiox> Because if you were using their drivers, video settings would be best adjusted there.
[07:52] <treshoem> zarbula: Also will this be an authoritative only name server or Recursive?
[07:52] <tiox> Crap. I think He didn't catch it.
[07:52] <azriel> Trying to get a video off of a website that doesn't have a downlaod button
[07:52] <zarbula> treshoem: I thought I set the master zone correctly, with a record for ns1.example.com, and ns2.example.com (not the true domain of course)
[07:53] <paraiso> I did some updates and now Ubuntu won't connect to wifi.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:53] <tiox> agu10^_: With us buddy?
[07:53] <zarbula> treshoem: authritative, the goal is to host a few domains
[07:53] <tiox> Bugger be...
[07:53] <treshoem> zarbula: try dig @localhost example.com ns
[07:53] <tiox> agu10^_
[07:53] <tiox> agu10^_
[07:53] <tiox> agu10^_
[07:53] <FloodBot1> tiox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <tiox> Bah! Sorry for the flood, I was hoping I could get his attention before He uninstalled the ATI drivers.
[07:54] <subb1> anyone knows the answer?
[07:54] <zarbula> treshoem: ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL,
[07:54] <subb1> anyone knows the answer to this? >>  after running 'UPdate Manager' where does all the packages get downld? and after installing them, do they get delete automatically?
[07:55] <paraiso> What could cause Ubuntu to not see available wireless networks if the wifi adapter is working?
[07:55] <treshoem> zarbula: try this one: dig . ns @localhost
[07:56] <treshoem> zarbula: could you pastebin your named.conf
[07:56] <agu10^> so... without ATI drivers, there's no issue with my screens
[07:56] <zarbula> treshoem: will do
[07:56] <urlin2u> paraiso, so it has worked?
[07:56] <paraiso> Yes it was working fine
[07:57] <urlin2u> paraiso, you do  distro upgrade?
[07:57] <urlin2u> a*
[07:57] <paraiso> urlin2u, how can I tell?
[07:57] <zarbula> treshoem: http://pastebin.com/qAnKx7kn
[07:58] <agu10^> am I using CPU rendering then?
[07:58] <agu10^> if gpu acceleration is disabled
[07:58] <urlin2u> paraiso, did you upgrade like from natty to oneiric a full release upgrade.
[07:59] <urlin2u> 10.10 to 11.04 as a example paraiso
[07:59] <paraiso> urlin2u, I think I have oneiric, it's my first distro
[07:59] <trypnotick> hi
[08:00] <urlin2u> paraiso, okay has this worked on oneiric, or ubuntu in general? we need details is the problem here. :)
[08:00] <treshoem> zarbula: mine looks like: http://pastebin.ca/2106984
[08:01] <almoxarife> agu10^: your screen resolution is what without the ati drivers? 1920-1080?
[08:01] <treshoem> zarbula: Do you have additional sections in there?
[08:01] <agu10^> almoxarife: 1920x1200 + 1366x1768
[08:01] <paraiso> urlin2u, Ok everything was working (I could connect to my wifi network).  Then I did some updates through "software up to date" and it no longer connects.
[08:01] <treshoem> zarbula: Its not from an ubuntu system, so the paths might be different
[08:02] <paraiso> urlin2u, I have a dual boot system and it works fine still in Windows
[08:02] <zarbula> treshoem: I used the ubuntu guide to get to where I am now.
[08:02] <agu10^> whereas with ATI drivers it would restrict to 1920x1080 + 1366x768
[08:02] <mastreet> Does anyone know how to read meta data from an appledouble file using Ubuntu?
[08:02] <agu10^> I meant 1920x1200 + 1366x768 vs 1920x1080 + 1366x768
[08:02] <mastreet> I can't find a linux version of DeRez
[08:03] <urlin2u> paraiso, ah this is linux totally different, so run this command and post the out put   lspci | grep -i wireless
[08:03] <joe_> Hi room.tried to instal ubuntu and formartted the hdd by mistake.is there any way to get my data back pls?
[08:03] <treshoem> zarbula: Do you have named.conf.options and named.conf.local as well?
[08:03] <mastreet> it would be a lot of work joe.
[08:03] <almoxarife> agu10^: lets see the xorg without the drivers, if you would
[08:03] <theadmin> joe_: Not exactly how it was, but Photorec can recover almost all deleted files. The names, however, turn into a complete mess.
[08:03] <agu10^> almoxarife: okay
[08:03] <zarbula> treshoem: I might not, I'm not sure.
[08:03] <tiox> agu10^: Now install a game you know requires 3D acceleration and see if it works.
[08:04] <paraiso> urlin2u, no output just another prompt
[08:04] <agu10^> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819730/
[08:04] <agu10^> tiox: blender would do?
[08:04] <urlin2u> paraiso, try this one  lspci | grep Broadcom
[08:04] <joe_> windows based or linux?
[08:04] <agu10^> there aren't that many games for linux
[08:04] <tiox> It would do quite fine.
[08:05] <tiox> But I meant a Windows game installable via Wine you might have in your inventory.
[08:05] <paraiso> urlin2u, same
[08:05] <urlin2u> paraiso, is it a external or internal?
[08:05] <tiox> Whatever works. :P
[08:05] <agu10^> tiox: blender opens and immediately closes
[08:05] <agu10^> :(
[08:05] <paraiso> urlin2u, usb wifi adapter
[08:05] <Lasivian> is there any upgrade option for Ubuntu 9.04 at the moment?
[08:05] <agu10^> tiox: i just installed this ubuntu
[08:05] <Lasivian> i've got a netbook with alot of specific changes when it was built
[08:05] <urlin2u> paraiso, you have to use a cd to get oit to work in windows?
[08:06] <urlin2u> it*
[08:06] <paraiso> urlin2u, no, in windows it works fine automatically
[08:06] <agu10^> okay, so I either have proper screen resolution OR proper 3d acceleration ?
[08:06] <urlin2u> paraiso, can you name the model, not all work in linux?
[08:06] <muh2000_> hiall
[08:07] <paraiso> urlin2u, yes its an asus.  But it was working fine before I did the updates
[08:07] <muh2000_> how to change the samba domain name of a ubuntu workstation withOUT editing smb.conf?
[08:07] <paraiso> urlin2u, "lspci" by itself produced output. would that help?
[08:08] <urlin2u> paraiso, yeah
[08:08] <urlin2u> paraiso, post the one line
[08:09] <paraiso> urlin2u, just a sec,  pastebin is down.
[08:10] <urlin2u> paraiso, try http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:12] <paraiso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819734/
[08:12] <paraiso> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/819734/
[08:13] <ubuntu_persona> test
[08:13] <iceroot> is there an easy way to get the difference between two deb-files (not the source-package) without extracting them wirst and then do a diff
[08:14] <iceroot> first
[08:14] <ubuntu_persona> hi iceroot
[08:15] <kel39> using the command line, how can I calculate how many .jpg files I have in a directory? there's several sub folders etc too
[08:16] <urlin2u> paraiso, not my strongest area but I don't see a wireless, I see the ethernet, the internal wireless broken.  Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection
[08:16] <ubuntu_persona> hieveryone
[08:18] <flowerpot> marijuana, your first name was better
[08:18] <prince_jammys> kel39: find /top_level -type f -name '*.jpg' -exec printf %.sX {} | wc -c
[08:18] <paraiso> urlin2u, what do you think I should do to trace the problem?  Is there a way to roll back the updates or do I just need to reinstall the os?
[08:18] <marijuana> flowerpot: according to you
[08:18] <kel39> thanks preludelinux
[08:18] <ubuntu_persona> i have installed jre in my ubuntu, but some applets still can't work
[08:18] <prince_jammys> kel39: oops.
[08:19] <kel39> prince_jammys
[08:19] <prince_jammys> kel39: find /top_level -type f -name '*.jpg' -exec printf %.sX {} + | wc -c  # was missing '+'
[08:19] <kel39> will this also find .JPG ?
[08:19] <prince_jammys> kel39: -iname instead of -name
[08:19] <kel39> k
[08:19] <ubuntu_persona> in parachat i can't open PM windows. could someone help me?
[08:19] <kel39> also, is it just | '*.jpeg'?
[08:20] <kel39> sorta need an array
[08:20] <prince_jammys> kel39: huh?
[08:20] <vibhav> kel39: ?
[08:20] <urlin2u> paraiso, I doubt you need to reinstall just hang and keep trying, maybe the ##linux channel might have an idea.
[08:20] <kel39> .jpg, .JPG, .jpeg, .JPEG
[08:20] <kel39> etc :)
[08:20] <geirha> find /top_level -type f \( -iname "*.jpg" -o -iname "*.jpeg" \) ...
[08:20] <prince_jammys> kel39: find /top_level -type f \( -iname '*.jpg' -o -iname '*.JPEG' \)  -exec printf %.sX {} + | wc -c  # was missing '+'
[08:21] <kel39> thanks
[08:21] <prince_jammys> geirha: hi there buster
[08:21] <urlin2u> paraiso, mine always work the internals, so I'm not real up on trouble shooting just know the internals that casue problems.
[08:22] <theadmin> prince_jammys: Why the parenthesis? What do those do?
[08:22] <paraiso> urlin2u, Thanks for the help, I'll check out the linux channel
[08:23] <urlin2u> paraiso, cool
[08:23] <prince_jammys> theadmin: -type f AND ( jpg OR jpeg)
[08:23] <theadmin> prince_jammys: Ah...
[08:24] <theadmin> wtf
[08:24] <vibhav> !language | theadmin
[08:24] <theadmin> My client suddenly decided to clear the screen, sorry vibhav
[08:24] <agu10^> tiox: so
[08:24] <agu10^> im in gnome classing
[08:24] <marijuana> this channel is more censored than communist china
[08:24] <agu10^> 'classic
[08:24] <marijuana> it's sickening
[08:25] <urlin2u> marijuana, so would you consider changing your name to a more family friendly nic. :D
[08:25] <vibhav> marijuana: Please discuss this in #ubuntu-ops
[08:25] <tiox> marijuana: It's because ANYONE can be in here.
[08:25] <tiox> Sensibilities, you know...
[08:25] <marijuana> no urlin2u
[08:25] <tiox> It's BS, but it's there.
[08:25] <marijuana> my name is plenty family friendly
[08:25] <vibhav> marijuana: Its a FAMILY FRIENDLY channel
[08:25] <Xourii> hello everyone
[08:25] <{-_-}> MARIJUANA, IM TWELVE
[08:25] <vibhav> marijuana: Well , its not
[08:25] <marijuana> after all it's a plant how much more friendly can it get
[08:25] <marijuana> stop being such a dea agent
[08:25] <{-_-}> ..hehe marijuana.
[08:25] <tiox> {-_-}: I am 12 and what is this?
[08:26] <almoxarife> !ot
[08:26] <Xourii> {-_-}: I was just thinking that
[08:26] <agu10^> actually
[08:26] <Xourii> Anyone wanna mess around on teamviewer?
[08:26] <tiox> Anyway agu10^, just try installing those ATI drivers again,
[08:26] <{-_-}> marijuana is a gateway drug, take it from me.
[08:26] <agu10^> who are we to ban marijuana from children?
[08:26] <marijuana> urlin2u: how about you change your name to censorship
[08:26] <agu10^> even the word
[08:26] <almoxarife> !ot
[08:26] <vibhav> Please guys , not here
[08:26] <Evilkiss1> Can somebody help me with login name here?
[08:26] <tiox> Oh, marijuana is given to cancer patients to ease their pain.
[08:26] <marijuana> damn communist
[08:26] <vibhav> Its a support channel
[08:26] <theadmin> ...guys, this is getting offtopic
[08:26] <agu10^> that's stupid. family friendly DOES NOT mean hiding everything from kids
[08:27] <marijuana> yea this channel is like communist china
[08:27] <marijuana> such BS
[08:27] <{-_-}> im a communist and i smoke weed. when i get the chance.
[08:27] <theadmin> marijuana: Yes. Don't like it? Get out.
[08:27] <bioterror> hey
[08:27] <tiox> That's the rule agu10^, deal with it, and stop trolling marijuana. I don't control policy, but I also don't wanna see you kicked out.
[08:27] <bioterror> keep that off from this channel
[08:27] <marijuana> you get out dude
[08:27] <marijuana> tired of you acting like you are god
[08:27] <marijuana> ban me then
[08:27] <marijuana> idc
[08:27] <Evilkiss1> I have own login name Evilkiss, why now always I login to channel i have some 1 number after name?
[08:27] <tensorpudding> this argument is not helpful, don't bait the ops and don't troll
[08:27] <marijuana> I DID NOTHING WRONG\
[08:27] <marijuana> PERIOD
[08:27] <vibhav> agu10^ marijuana {-_-} theadmin : Please discuss this in any other un Family friendly channel
[08:27] <theadmin> marijuana: I'm not an admin, but this behaviour is likely to get you banned...
[08:28] <agu10^> "family friendly" is no excuse to ban porn, sex talk, drug talk, or to any kind of censorship. at least be honest and say something different. NOT 'family friendly'
[08:28] <vibhav> agu10^: please stop it
[08:28] <marijuana> THIS CHANNEL IS CENSORED
[08:28] <theadmin> vibhav: I'm just telling them to stop being offtopic... Why me? lol
[08:28] <marijuana> ADMIT IT.
[08:28] <FloodBot1> marijuana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <tiox> It's getting off topic.
[08:28] <theadmin> Oh boy.
[08:28] <asdfasdf> typing all in caps....
[08:28] <almoxarife> marijuana: say less, let it die down, unless you want to be the martyr
[08:28] <tiox> I mean, holy balls take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:28] <marijuana> IM NOT THE ONE WHO WAS OFF TOPIC
[08:28] <tensorpudding> Evilkiss1, did you identify, are you configured to use Evilkiss
[08:28] <vibhav> theadmin: Sorry
[08:28] <vibhav> tiox: language , please
[08:28] <theadmin> !ops | Somebody, please, stop this mess.
[08:28] <vibhav> Shall I call the ops?
[08:28] <marijuana> I LOVE HOW UBUNTU THINKS IT'S GOD
[08:29]  * tiox facepalms
[08:29] <vibhav> thanks theadmin
[08:29] <marijuana> and the stuck up users here too
[08:29] <agu10^> marijuana: god of the linux OSs for desktop
[08:29] <asdfasdf> I love the internet
[08:29] <tensorpudding> stop feeeding the troll
[08:29] <marijuana> now im a troll
[08:29] <marijuana> yet someone trolled my nickname
[08:29] <elky> marijuana, stop now.
[08:29] <semitones> urlin2u: that boot script didn't work (expecting 'fi')
[08:29] <tiox> Christ marijuana we're not stuck up. This channel is primarily for Ubuntu support and not much else.
[08:29] <vibhav> marijuana agu10^ : Stop it guys
[08:29] <tiox> As I said, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and vent there.
[08:29] <agu10^> ?
[08:30] <marijuana> OK? SO SOMEONE COMPLAINED ABOUT MY NICK. I DID NOTHING WRONG
[08:30] <almoxarife> marijuana: say less, let it die down, unless you want to be the martyr
[08:30] <tiox> He just became one.
[08:30] <tensorpudding> he didn't become a martyr
[08:30] <elky> agu10^, our sandpit, our rules.
[08:30] <theadmin> Look everyone, this channel is intended for support of the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu operating systems. Please take anything else to #defocus , #ubuntu-offtopic or other respecitve channels. Okay?
[08:30] <tiox> Exactly my point theadmin.
[08:30] <semitones> hey
[08:31] <semitones> my root drive seems to have gone missing, can someone help me find it
[08:31] <semitones> i'm very tired, i hope i still make sense
[08:31] <tiox> Back to your issue agu10^, how about reinstalling them drivers and telling us how it turns out.
[08:31] <phix> sure
[08:31] <theadmin> semitones: ...you're not. What do you mean, "gone missing"? What's the error?
[08:31] <tiox> I suggested to him in PM to use a compositor-less environment, to remove that variable.
[08:31] <phix> It's not behind my lounge or in my bread box
[08:32] <prince_jammys> :)
[08:32] <vibhav> Support please
[08:32] <agu10^> tiox: still installing them
[08:32] <phix> vibhav: sure, my rates are $99.00 and hr aud inc tax
[08:32] <almoxarife> vibhav: the question?
[08:32] <phix> and = an
[08:32] <Evilkiss1> tensorpudding: Now I can't identify, because, I have this number 1...but my nick is always been Evilkiss, I have password for it
[08:33] <vibhav> alI meant lets have support talk  now
[08:33] <almoxarife> can an op show phix to the door, pls?
[08:33] <theadmin> Evilkiss1: /msg nickserv identify Evilkiss PASSWORD
[08:33] <tensorpudding> Evilkiss1, do /nick Evilkiss
[08:33] <tensorpudding> then identify
[08:34] <semitones> theadmin: i just installed a new hard drive, and put ubuntu on it. now when booting from the new grub, I can't boot into the old ubuntu on the old drive. it says / is missing, s to skip, m for manual recovery
[08:34] <dfcnvt> I'm planning on going to upgrade my computer & I predict it will switch to TABS on my left side of the desktop... I don't mind to have that on my laptop but since I'm using a desktop computer... I will find it annoying to have a TABS on my left side of the Desktop.. How do you go about reversing back to normal theme? (bars bottom & top with 'Applications Places System' tabs)
[08:34] <Evilkiss1> do /nick Evilkiss
[08:34] <Evilkiss1> wow
[08:34] <theadmin> semitones: Ok, uhh, you need to modify the fstab of the old drive
[08:34] <Evilkiss1> he he he
[08:35] <meganerd> dfcnvt: I just went back to KDE
[08:35] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, what is the release your running now?
[08:35] <dfcnvt> errr let me check now
[08:35] <semitones> theadmin: can I just delete fstab and let it make a new one
[08:35] <dfcnvt> 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu
[08:35] <theadmin> semitones: That doesn't work that way, sorry.
[08:36] <semitones> theadmin: what do you think I need to change about fstab
[08:36] <iceroot> semitones: dont delete that drive, the system wont boot then
[08:36] <iceroot> semitones: file
[08:36] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, this will tell you.   lsb_release -a
[08:36] <theadmin> semitones: Just make sure it points to the proper drive/partition, best of all use UUIDs, but if you can't, then labels, and if you can't, then dev nodes (which seems to be what you are using now)
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[08:37] <dfcnvt> Ubuntu 11.04 natty
[08:37] <semitones> theadmin: what's the command that tells you the UUID of a thing? blkid something or other
[08:37] <theadmin> semitones: blkid indeed.
[08:37] <prince_jammys> /sbin/blkid
[08:37] <meganerd> you can always look in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[08:37] <bobo37773> YASIN: Hey
[08:37] <iceroot> semitones: sudo blkid
[08:38] <Evilkiss1> theadmin: not working...then I put /nick Evilkiss, it's inform me "The nickname "Evilkiss" is already being used"
[08:38] <theadmin> Evilkiss1: /msg nickserv identify Evilkiss PASSWORD and after that /msg nickserv ghost Evilkiss and, finally, /nick Evilkiss
[08:38] <Jordan_U> Evilkiss1: That's because you're connected as Evilkiss from another client already.
[08:39] <meganerd> Evilkiss1: is this you?  -->  Evilkiss is ~Evilkiss@hoas-fe3add00-143.dhcp.inet.fi (Constantine)
[08:39] <semitones> ok
[08:39] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, the next release is in develop ment 12.04 not a good upgrade
[08:39] <theadmin> meganerd: That doesn't really work, it shows the UUIDs but doesn't tell you what is what, heh
[08:39] <Jordan_U> theadmin: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[08:39] <Evilkiss1> meganerd: yes, it's me
[08:39] <meganerd> theadmin: they are symlinks to the actual drives, so ls -l
[08:39] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Oh, true.
[08:39] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, your kernel looks like a earlier release as well.
[08:39] <theadmin> Never mind that... yeah
[08:40] <meganerd> theadmin:
[08:40] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: I've just upgraded recently, I'm required to restart the system but I'd like to wait until I'm done with something... So, I assume I will be facing the TABS on the left side of the desktop.
[08:40] <theadmin> meganerd: Yeah, I know, I just didn't realise what you meant by "look in" xD
[08:40] <meganerd> theadmin: :)
[08:41] <meganerd> theadmin: I guess I did not give a particularly detailed answer
[08:41] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, the stock desktop for both is unity with the panel on the left there is gnome 3 and about 50 other de's
[08:41] <semitones> I thought the point of UUID was to not mess up when you added a harddrive :(
[08:41] <theadmin> meganerd: True, but ah well, it does make sense
[08:41] <Evilkiss> finally
[08:42] <semitones> this is what the fstab looks like currently: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819747/
[08:42] <meganerd> semitones: a UUID is simply a unique ID
[08:42] <theadmin> semitones: UUIDs aren't... really unique. I once had a problem with my Android device when the internal storage and the sd card ended up having same UUIDs and I had to format one of them to fix it. Funny, huh?
[08:42] <semitones> ah ok
[08:42] <Evilkiss> Thank you for everyone, who help me
[08:42] <semitones> theadmin: how can I use labels instead? the root is labeled "ubunturoot" and /home is labeled "Linux Home"
[08:42] <swat_> is there a way of clicking on the twitter alerts that come up?
[08:42] <swat_> in ubuntu
[08:42] <urlin2u> semitones, just to comment if you had run the bootscript I requested it would tell us the fstab and much more.
[08:43] <theadmin> semitones: /dev/disk/by-label/ubnturoot, and, uh... I don't think labels can have spaces
[08:43] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: So I assume gnome3 responsible for that change? Is there such preference/options to change back to my current old system?
[08:43] <dfcnvt> theme*
[08:43] <semitones> urlin2u: I ran it and it didn't work (expected 'fi')
[08:43] <meganerd> theadmin: semitones labels do not support spaces
[08:43] <urlin2u> semitones, it makes a text file to pastebin, you have to unpack the file.
[08:44] <meganerd> I do make heavy use of labels, especially on USB devices
[08:44] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, can you take a screen shot of your desktop and imagebin it?
[08:44] <dfcnvt> Sure
[08:44] <urlin2u> !imagebin | dfcnvt
[08:44] <semitones> urlin2u: what can I tell you, the script didn't run. even after I installed gawk
[08:45] <urlin2u> semitones, hmm strange.
[08:45] <theadmin> meganerd: Indeed lol, I have my system installed on an external drive so I address stuff in fstab via /dev/disk/by-label, mostly cause I just don't want to mess with UUIDs
[08:46] <TERON> HI AAAAAL!!!!
[08:46] <TERON> How install catalyst driver i have error?
[08:46] <meganerd> theadmin: I use a label that is descriptive (root-ssd for example) paired with output from pwgen
[08:46] <meganerd> TERON: it is called radeon, and should be loaded automatically
[08:46] <TERON> error during the package build
[08:47] <meganerd> TERON: are you trying to install fglrx?
[08:47] <theadmin> meganerd: Meh mine is just "portarchroot" for / basically (from the words "PORTable", "ARCHlinux" and "ROOT" (yes, I ain't an Ubuntu user))
[08:47] <fyrecow> ubunto is a boss
[08:47] <TERON> How instal proprietary driver?
[08:47] <MethAmphetamine> hi all
[08:47] <meganerd> theadmin: I don't really care what you use :)  no harshness intended
[08:47] <osmosis> how do I get aptitude to use color?  for like  aptitude show mutt   cant it do it in color?
[08:48] <theadmin> meganerd: yep lol, just saying
[08:48] <agu10^> fyrecow: not really
[08:48] <theadmin> meganerd: what is pwgen exactly? Some sort of random string thing?
[08:48] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: Here you go.. (different img server) http://i.imgur.com/wQ4gs.jpg
[08:48] <phy1729> Whence to the iptables get loaded on boot?
[08:48] <semitones> theadmin: meganerd: labels can have spaces, look "/dev/sdb6: LABEL="Linux Home" UUID="c48850a3-5d32-411d-813d-7955cf98d3a8" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[08:48] <semitones> "
[08:48] <meganerd> theadmin: it can generate random strings, with lots of customizations
[08:48] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, soory you can upgrade to a release I read 11.10 when you said 11.04 so lets see wait to see the image so I understand what you mean by the same.
[08:49] <TERON> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:49] <meganerd> semitones: if you remember the "
[08:49] <ShamanicFreedom> hello meganerd
[08:49] <theadmin> !patience | TERON
[08:49] <MethAmphetamine> so I have a question why is this channel like communist chin
[08:49] <meganerd> semitones: best if you don't
[08:49] <semitones> true, ok
[08:49] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, thanks
[08:49] <theadmin> meganerd: I see.
[08:49] <theadmin> dfcnvt: Nice, what is your window manager?
[08:49] <TERON> catalyst driver
[08:49] <TERON> amd catalyst
[08:49] <meganerd> theadmin: it makes it really easy to generate a custom length string with unambiguous characters
[08:50] <meganerd> TERON: that is the name of the windows drivers
[08:50] <semitones> theadmin: the UUID is the same as what's in fstab...
[08:50] <dfcnvt> theadmin: It's not the window manager... It's the terminator (split windows feature)
[08:50] <TERON> no
[08:50] <theadmin> meganerd: I see, well, I had my own written for such purposes, I never really looked for one written by others because it's a trivial tool, heh
[08:50] <TERON> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[08:50] <theadmin> dfcnvt: Ah, ok
[08:50] <semitones> theadmin: if the UUID is the same in fstab as in reality... why is it not being found during boot?
[08:50] <theadmin> semitones: Hm, no idea.
[08:50] <theadmin> semitones: Weird.
[08:51] <meganerd> what is wrong with the radeon driver?
[08:51] <TERON> HELP PLEASE!!!
[08:51] <ShamanicFreedom> where u guys from?
[08:51] <theadmin> TERON: Stop it, you. sudo apt-get install fglrx
[08:51] <TERON> how install?
[08:51] <theadmin> ShamanicFreedom: That's offtopic.
[08:51] <meganerd> TERON: you will need to be more specific, like what hardware, what have you done etc
[08:51] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, that's the fallback  believe desktop it looks like, I think you can have it in 11.10  but it was just transitional de for thse that needed it, gnome 2 the long term de is not supported anymore.
[08:51] <TERON> fglrx open driver?
[08:51] <meganerd> fglrx is not open
[08:52] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: I'll get back to this after i restart my computer... Hopefully it won't change to a new panel on the left.
[08:52] <meganerd> TERON: the open driver is called simply radeon and is already installed by default
[08:52] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: If it does.. then I'll figure out a way to get back to this kinds of setting.
[08:52] <TERON> R9264dh
[08:52] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, not sure if it stays on a upgrade, I would clone it first if it was me, just for insurance, upgrades do break on occasion.
[08:53] <agu10^_> tiox: I'm on gnome classic and having the same problem...
[08:53] <dfcnvt> ... If that will be the case then just which part should I 'clone' as a back up?
[08:53] <agu10^_> maximum "virtual" desktop is 1920x1920
[08:53] <orated> Is there a way to rename large number of files, say - Windows XP Professional-0-s010.vmdk  Windows XP Professional-1-s003.vmdk  Windows XP Professional-1-s018.vmdk  Windows XP ProfessionaL-s004.vmdk      Windows XP Professional-s012.vmdk  Windows XP ProfessionaL-s019.vmdk - in a way that only Windows XP is replaced?
[08:53] <tiox> Tell me, are the displays mirrored or separate?
[08:54] <TERON> what is the difference Catalyst and fglrs drivers?
[08:54] <tiox> orated: While nto exactly Ubuntu, Xubuntu's Thunar has a batch file renamer.
[08:54] <meganerd> TERON: the name
[08:55] <tiox> There's probably sometrhing else for Gnome too. I've looked for such a solution before.
[08:55] <virtuaposta> hi all
[08:55] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: Oh... I think that's kind of technically too late.. I've already upgraded & if I mirror it then it'll react the same thing
[08:55] <TERON> only name?
[08:55] <eri_> what program i can use for repair a hdd 500 gb please on ubuntu?
[08:55] <virtuaposta> anyone know any good tool for I/O management?
[08:55] <meganerd> TERON: as far as I can see
[08:55] <TERON> what's the point?
[08:55] <jdhfr> how to change language in console (with k..destop)?
[08:55] <theadmin> orated: for i in $(ls /folder_with_files) ; do mv $i $(echo $i | sed 's/Windows XP/somethingtoreplacewith/') ; done # Something like this. Or, use the "rename" tool.
[08:55] <iceroot> virtuaposta: what is i/o management?
[08:56] <meganerd> Catalyst is the branding, their Windows drivers have used that monikor for a while
[08:56] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: I'll get back here with issues if I have a panel on left after I restart the system. Just not now at this time.
[08:56] <TERON> WHO have radeon ATI AMD Video Card!? HELP PLEASE!!!
[08:56] <meganerd> TERON: I just use the open driver, works well on my 4890 and 5770
[08:56] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, not sure I understand but it seems you have upgraded already, or are starting to.
[08:56] <dfcnvt> urlin2u: Thanks anyway
[08:56] <eri_> what program i can use for repair a hdd 500 gb please on ubuntu? help please
[08:56] <urlin2u> dfcnvt, np
[08:56] <bazhang> TERON, you have been told how to
[08:56] <iceroot> eri_: repair?
[08:56] <theadmin> TERON: You were already told thousands of times, you aren't even listening :/
[08:56] <bazhang> !ati | TERON read this too
[08:57] <iceroot> eri_: what kind of error you want to reair?
[08:57] <meganerd> TERON: there are two open drivers, the old 2d only ati one, and the new radeonhd/radeon driver for 3xxx cards and up
[08:57] <ZynuiMaiche> hello! does anybody have logisim installed or know how to install it? it's a java jar but I'm having a lot of trouble
[08:57] <TERON> I want to revive an old PC too
[08:57] <kasii> hia ll
[08:57] <jdhfr> how to change language in console (with k..desktop)?
[08:57] <eri_> iceroot,  my second hdd its ntfs format
[08:57] <theadmin> bazhang: Hey, any idea what on earth is "Matrox"? lol. The only place I've seen that is that factoid
[08:57] <eri_> have my backup man and have many error
[08:57] <bazhang> theadmin, an ancient card
[08:58] <iceroot> eri_: what kind of error you want to repair?
[08:58] <iceroot> eri_: broken sectors?
[08:58] <meganerd> jdhfr: the CLI for languge is locale
[08:58] <eri_> cluster
[08:58] <eri_> yep
[08:58] <iceroot> eri_: you cant repair that
[08:58] <eri_> broken sector
[08:58] <iceroot> eri_: buy a new hdd
[08:58] <TERON> I can not have on the old map 3d radeon?
[08:58] <jdhfr> meganerd: it doesn't make any sense
[08:59] <TERON> on the old card
[08:59] <TERON> CARD
[08:59] <kami> sp0tify for ubunz please?
[08:59] <bazhang> TERON, that depends if your card supports it.
[08:59] <jdhfr> TERON: old ATI card use gallium driver which is utter shit
[08:59] <orated> Thanks theadmin
[08:59] <theadmin> jdhfr: Sorry, what exactly do you want to change? Your GUI's language or the language of CLI program output? If the latter, use "LANG=languagecode command", if the former, use your GUI's config tools
[08:59] <eri_> iceroot,  yeah.. easy for you said it
[09:00] <meganerd> jdhfr: are you trying to change the language you see at the console?
[09:00] <eri_> thanx
[09:00] <TERON> OMG PLEASE HELP!!!
[09:00] <eri_> abul
[09:00] <jdhfr> theadmin: keyboard language, isn't that clear?
[09:00] <bazhang> TERON, with what, and lose the caps
[09:00] <TERON> HOW USING 3D ON OLD ATI RADEON CARD!?
[09:00] <theadmin> jdhfr: No it wasn't. Keyboard for X or plain console?
[09:00] <bazhang> TERON, no caps
[09:00] <theadmin> jdhfr: I mean, are you running X? If so, "setxkbmap languagecode". If not, "loadkeys languagecode".
[09:00] <ZynuiMaiche> Does anybody know how to solve a HeadlessException when running a java .jar file?
[09:00] <jdhfr> TERON: upgrade to Windows, fgrlx is not longer for your card
[09:01] <kami> question: Wine Vs PlayOnLinux, what are the differences?
[09:01] <jdhfr> theadmin: full screen console
[09:01] <theadmin> kami: PlayOnLinux is a frontend to Wine with tons of scripts to make Wine work for specific programs.
[09:01] <TERON> help please!
[09:01] <TERON> HOW?
[09:01] <theadmin> jdhfr: Likely loadkeys, then. Try both and see which works, lol
[09:01] <virtuaposta> iceroot, i meant how I can manage disk I/O rate?
[09:01] <TERON> no WIndows
[09:01] <bazhang> TERON, with what. state your question
[09:01] <TERON> How using on Linux?
[09:01] <iceroot> virtuaposta: ionice
[09:01] <theadmin> bazhang: (s)he's trying to use fglrx for some ancient card
[09:01] <meganerd> jdhfr: I use the 4 commands listed at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/819756/
[09:02] <TERON> HOW USING 3D ON OLD ATI RADEON CARD!?
[09:02] <TERON> qustion
[09:02] <bazhang> TERON, you cannot
[09:02] <ejv> amazing how it takes one guy to upset the flow of a channel... lol
[09:02] <TERON> but Why!?
[09:02] <bazhang> theadmin, thanks
[09:02] <TERON> how cant?
[09:02] <TERON> :(
[09:02] <TERON> why cant?
[09:02] <ejv> !patience | TERON
[09:02] <bazhang> TERON, it's too old. please stop repeating
[09:02] <meganerd> TERON: is this card older or newer than a HD 3xxx?
[09:02] <TERON> i have only 2 old card (
[09:03] <semitones> uh oh
[09:03] <semitones> theadmin: i opened up gparted
[09:03] <semitones> it says it can't read the contents of /
[09:03] <theadmin> semitones: Ew. Run fsck on the partition from livecd
[09:03] <jdhfr> loadkeys what? it just sits there and does nothing
[09:03] <TERON> its just shit :(
[09:03] <jdhfr> TERON: which card?
[09:03] <TERON> WTF!?
[09:03] <semitones> theadmin: i'm running off the other hard disk, can i run fsck from there?
[09:03] <theadmin> jdhfr: loadkeys your_language_code, e.g. "loadkeys fr" or "loadkeys ru" or "loadkeys de" or such
[09:04] <ejv> !language | TERON
[09:04] <iceroot> TERON: whatch your language please
[09:04] <TERON> old card
[09:04] <theadmin> semitones: Yeah, just make sure the partition ain't mounted.
[09:04] <meganerd> jdhfr: what is the output from "locale"
[09:04] <semitones> theadmin: "fsck /dev/sdb5/" ? or do I need flags
[09:04] <TERON> R9264DH
[09:04] <meganerd> TERON: not good enough, which card?
[09:04] <TERON> R9264DH
[09:04] <theadmin> semitones: Just that, yeah, but you don't need the trailing slash
[09:04] <ZynuiMaiche> ok, this is a slight repeat but I just want to verify something: to run a java .jar file if I am in the same folder then I just do "java -jar [jarFileName]" correct?
[09:04] <jdhfr> theadmin: it says 'permissions denied' in hundred lines or so
[09:04] <theadmin> ZynuiMaiche: Right
[09:04] <ZynuiMaiche> ok thanks theadmin
[09:04] <semitones> theadmin: also it's reiserfs
[09:05] <jokerdino> hey guys.
[09:05] <meganerd> TERON: or you could just say a radeon 9200
[09:05] <iceroot> ZynuiMaiche: yes
[09:05] <ZynuiMaiche> i'll try and figure it out xD
[09:05] <theadmin> jdhfr: Ah, sorry, that needs root: sudo loadkeys whatever
[09:05] <jokerdino> can i install flashplugin in 10.04 using `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer` ?
[09:05] <theadmin> ZynuiMaiche: The exception name makes me think it wants to connect to X which you don't seem to be running
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse icon at boot (square-like corrupt mouse icon)?
[09:05] <TERON> on card written
[09:05] <TERON> R9264DH
[09:05] <LukeNukem> Hello all
[09:05] <TERON> Gigabit
[09:05] <ejv> radeon 9200? over 10 years old, buy something new.
[09:05] <LukeNukem> i installed netbeans ide
[09:06] <iceroot> !enter | TERON
[09:06] <iceroot> !who | TERON
[09:06] <TERON> Gigabyt
[09:06] <LukeNukem> software center shows its installed, i try to find it in dash home but it does not come
[09:06] <LukeNukem> how do i start this netbeans?
[09:06] <prashant> can anyone suggest me a graphics library on ubuntu similar to graphics.h in turbo c?
[09:06] <meganerd> TERON: I know, I used google, you could have also mentioned the  AGP part
[09:06] <LukeNukem> meganerd, love the name.
[09:06] <iceroot> prashant: #gcc ##c++ ##c
[09:07] <LukeNukem> anyway how do i start netbeans?
[09:07] <ejv> meganerd: TERON is a help vampire, best to stop now while you're ahead lol
[09:07] <meganerd> LukeNukem: yours is not so bad either
[09:07] <TERON> how using hep please!
[09:07] <LukeNukem> meganerd, thanks i got it from DukeNukem :P
[09:07] <bazhang> TERON, help what? your card is too old for 3D support
[09:07] <meganerd> ejv: 10 years ago I worked a helpdesk for an ISP, does not really bother me :)
[09:07] <ejv> obligatory, here's the help vampire guide: http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/
[09:08] <LukeNukem> :*(
[09:08] <TERON> In Windows it work!!!!
[09:08] <agu10^_> is it easy to do X forwarding?
[09:08] <oCean> ejv: don't post that sillyness here
[09:08] <meganerd> LukeNukem: I gathered, hopefully a reference to the original, and not whatever it was that was released a year ago
[09:08] <TERON> In Windows it work!!!! 3D WORKING IN WINDOWS!
[09:08] <bazhang> TERON, please stop repeating
[09:08] <agu10^_> TERON: wow that must be new
[09:08] <ejv> oCean: it's not sillyness, lanalyze TERON's behavior oCean
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse icon (square-like corrupt mouse icon), after reboot it goes away?
[09:08] <ejv> s/lanalyze/analyze/
[09:08] <theadmin> meganerd: lol yeah dnf was nonsense, heh.
[09:09] <prashant> iceroot, i think these are not graphics libraries
[09:09] <bazhang> ejv, its not helpful, so dont
[09:09] <meganerd> theadmin: I felt cheated by the demo :)
[09:09] <agu10^_> TERON: windows has drivers. linux does not.
[09:09] <ejv> what's not helpful?
[09:09] <LukeNukem> meganerd, the new one is bullshit :>
[09:09] <oCean> LukeNukem: control your language here, please
[09:09] <LukeNukem> oCean, ok sorry :)
[09:09] <LukeNukem> crap*
[09:09] <agu10^_> TERON: means you need great hardware to at least get crappy performance: it's linux
[09:09] <TERON> ok but how using!?
[09:10] <TERON> how using!?
[09:10] <LukeNukem> so oCean would you know how to startup netbeans after its install
[09:10] <semitones> theadmin: "4 found corruptions can be fixed when running with --fix-fixable"
[09:10] <TERON> i can using GeeForce440
[09:10] <ejv> identifying impossible, disruptful, and hostile users *is* actually helpful. especially those who lure and befuddle reasonable supporters with impossible questions.
[09:10] <TERON> Why i cant using new radeon 9200?
[09:10] <oCean> ejv: drop the offtopic now please.
[09:10] <oCean> LukeNukem: no idea, sorry
[09:10] <bazhang> ejv, staying on topic and not adding to noise is helpful
[09:11] <TERON> Where get driver for radeon 9200 for Linux?
[09:11] <LukeNukem> TERON, go to dash home, type in additional drivers and open it..it will check for drivers
[09:11] <iceroot> prashant: that are channels
[09:11] <LukeNukem> prashant, south india or north
[09:12] <TERON> linux id bad :( very few drivers
[09:12] <TERON> is
[09:12] <TERON> linux is bad :( very few drivers
[09:12] <TERON> yes
[09:12] <oCean> TERON: stop repeating please
[09:12] <TERON> bb all!!!
[09:12]  * ejv sigh
[09:12] <LukeNukem> TERON, its not bad.
[09:12] <semitones> TERON: ATI is bad
[09:12] <meganerd> TERON: nice troll
[09:12] <ejv> case and point.
[09:13] <LukeNukem> TERON, its just that you cant get used to Linux.
[09:13] <prashant> LukeNukem, north
[09:13] <oCean> LukeNukem: please move on
[09:13] <TERON> u troll?
[09:13] <LukeNukem> semitones, true, he should blame the vendor
[09:13] <TERON> if not then help me
[09:13] <TERON> plz
[09:13] <bazhang> lets move on please
[09:13] <g0kul> great
[09:13] <agu10^_> TERON, you can't get used to linux. Once you get used, you'll understand that you DONT need 3d acceleration or fancy graphics. JUST a TERMINAL! but you still need quite good hardware for that anyways
[09:14] <LukeNukem> aw that was rude, we should help the poor guy out. After all he might be new to linux and he would feel lost. And Linux is know for its support from the community.
[09:14] <bazhang> agu10^_, hes gone, lets move on
[09:14] <LukeNukem> kicking him would just prove that wrong.
[09:14] <LukeNukem> just my opinion
[09:14] <bazhang> LukeNukem, support issue?
[09:14] <iceroot> LukeNukem: reread the whole discussion
[09:14] <bazhang> LukeNukem, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[09:14] <LukeNukem> i just got here, so yeah i dont know if he was trolling. it looked like he was asking for driver help but lets move on. he's gone
[09:15] <LukeNukem> bazhang, ok :-) understood
[09:15] <coolstar-ipod> LukeNukem: let's discuss that in the off topic channel. This one's for support on Ubuntu.
[09:15] <cloudgeek> hey
[09:15] <LukeNukem> coolstar-ipod, ok
[09:16] <ttl-> downloads on ubuntu.com are not working
[09:16] <iceroot> !work | ttl-
[09:16] <ttl-> lol
[09:17] <stephan> hi
[09:17] <prashant> LukeNukem, can you suggest me any graphics library on ubuntu similar to graphics.h?
[09:17] <LukeNukem> prashant, sorry i dont know, im new to Linux.
[09:17] <ttl-> all downloads are offline
[09:18] <metaspike> huh?...
[09:19] <metaspike> how can I download a load of .flv's from a website, recursively. :)
[09:19] <prince_jammys> metaspike: a whole lot of clicking.
[09:19] <bazhang> ttl-, they work fine here, from http and torrents
[09:20] <meganerd> metaspike: check out the documentation for wget
[09:20] <[deXter]> metaspike, httrack
[09:20] <bazhang> metaspike, firefox video download helper plugin
[09:20] <SLayeRDK> ttl-: from where are you trying to download ?
[09:20] <meganerd> metaspike: youtube-dl might help you (it supports more than just youtube)
[09:23] <r0b-> how can i figure out what my camera supports in ubuntu?
[09:24] <r0b-> lsusb doesnt help
[09:24] <bazhang> r0b-, try cheese, camorama , others yet?
[09:24] <r0b-> i only have CLI access
[09:24] <jdhfr> theadmin: and how to switch them now?
[09:25] <r0b-> if i tell vgrabberj just to capture normally it works fine
[09:25] <bazhang> r0b-, how do you propose to use the camera?
[09:25] <r0b-> when i try to set the res it freaks
[09:25] <pksadiq`> !info ttv | r0b-
[09:25] <r0b-> spycam for my house
[09:25] <antivirtel> hello here, I have a problem to upgrade to the lastest kernel on Lucid: http://paste2.org/p/1886276
[09:26] <metaspike> lol you could. mplayer -vo caca tv://
[09:27] <ttl-> SLayeRDK: Ubuntu svr 10.04 iso
[09:27] <metaspike> incidentially, you can record with mencoder tv:// and apropriate switches for encoder settings from console.
[09:27] <theadmin> jdhfr: Sorry, switch? Just loadkeys again, I, uh, don't think plain console offers switching between layouts in a sane way
[09:28] <r0b-> metaspike failed
[09:30] <r0b-> ok according to Motion it only does 320x240
[09:30] <r0b-> but thats for video not stills
[09:30] <r0b-> is what im doing is trying to capture a still every 5 seconds for motion jpeg
[09:31] <SLayeRDK> ttl-: whats the url you are using ?
[09:32] <ttl-> SLayeRDK: works again, i think firefox was acting strange
[09:32] <jokerdino> how do i install adobe flash in 10.04?
[09:32] <SLayeRDK> ttl-: must be
[09:32] <r0b-> oh well
[09:32] <antivirtel> hello here, I have a problem to upgrade to the lastest kernel on Lucid: http://paste2.org/p/1886276 anyone?
[09:32] <ttl-> SLayeRDK: sorry for that
[09:33] <sriram_123> hi
[09:33] <sriram_123> i was thinking about mailing from the terminal
[09:33] <sriram_123> any tips will be appreciated
[09:33] <iceroot> sriram_123: mutt
[09:34] <jutnux> sriram_123: I second mutt.
[09:34] <iceroot> sriram_123: every mailclients sucks, but mutt sucks less :)
[09:34] <jdhfr> theadmin: i cannot, I just changed keyboard
[09:35] <jdhfr> ANYONE knows how to switch keyboard in console?
[09:36] <sriram_123> oh any resources on mutt?
[09:36] <sriram_123> btw iceroot thanks
[09:39] <jdhfr> there's 1500 people and no useful help
[09:39] <meganerd> jdhfr: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/819756/
[09:40] <jdhfr> meganerd: and how is that related to keyboard?
[09:40] <theadmin> jdhfr: (s)he's wanting to switch a keyboard layout
[09:40] <meganerd> it sets the language at the CLI
[09:42] <jdhfr> apparently linux is too much for soft a...n brains
[09:42] <meganerd> jdhfr: do you have the problem when you switch to the console with ctrl-alt-F1?
[09:43] <jdhfr> yes I have. after "helpful" advice of a certain person I even cannot type anything in that console anymore
[09:43] <theadmin> jdhfr: Well, you asked how to switch and I answered, what's the problem?
[09:44] <meganerd> jdhfr: then your problem sounds like the locale got messed up, you can go to ctrl-alt-f2 if need be
[09:44] <jdhfr> to switch, not to f..k up my keyboard
[09:44] <meganerd> jdhfr: what happens when you locale all by itself?
[09:44] <jdhfr> meganerd: forget about locale, i'm talking about keyboard
[09:45] <meganerd> jdhfr: locale controls the keyboard at the console, as in when you are not using X
[09:46] <jdhfr> meganerd: it doesn't. now stop trolling
[09:46] <bazhang> jdhfr, thats uncalled for
[09:46] <meganerd> whatever
[09:46] <jdhfr> bazhang: it's not, he tells untruth
[09:47] <Your_Dog> O.o
[09:47] <bazhang> jdhfr, attacking others, especially those trying to help is not acceptable here.
[09:47] <meganerd> jdhfr: anyway, I need sleep, best of luck to you.
[09:48] <lasers`> Hello. Did anybody install Ubuntu recently? I'd like your ~/.bashrc -- Please.
[09:49] <chiiiiiz> hello
[09:50] <chiiiiiz> in which configuration file can I find the address of the wallpaper file?
[09:50] <theadmin> lasers`: The standard bashrc, if there even is one, likely resides in /etc/skel (if you deleted yours)
[09:50] <chiiiiiz> in Ubuntu 11.10 Unity?
[09:51] <meganerd> jdhfr: untruths?  nice and classy, it is what I love about the Internet.
[09:51] <chiiiiiz> I have right clicked on a file on the internet, with "use as wallpaper"... It is now my wall paper... but it is nowhere to be found on my disk
[09:51] <orchata> Hi guys, is there an app for ubuntu similar to connectify on windows 7?  What I want to do is to create virtual router, but I want to be able to see who connected, traffic used and be able to block people.
[09:51] <lasers`> theadmin: I see. I'm on Debian. I'd like to see Ubuntu's /etc/skel/.bashrc
[09:51] <meganerd> jdhfr: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" by any chance?
[09:51] <JoeBloggs> lasers`,  10.14 ?
[09:52] <JoeBloggs> egggh 11.14
[09:52] <meganerd> orchata: you can do all of that, but probably not in a single app
[09:52] <meganerd> orchata: have a look at http://lartc.org
[09:52] <orchata> meganerd: I am ok with using different apps, just show me where to search
[09:52] <orchata> for it
[09:53] <theadmin> lasers`: Ah, ok, well, guess you'll have to wait for someone to post theirs. I don't run Ubuntu either.
[09:53] <lasers`> JoeBloggs: 11.10?
[09:53] <JoeBloggs> thats it  lol
[09:53] <meganerd> orchata: I use iftop to see what is happening in realtime
[09:53] <jdhfr> lol calling loadkeys ruined all 6 consoles alltogether
[09:53] <orchata> meganerd: I prefer to have some GUI
[09:53] <lasers`> JoeBloggs: Heh. I'd like /etc/skel/.bashrc -- You can paste it on http://pastebin.com/
[09:53] <orchata> meganerd: if possible
[09:53] <jdhfr> meganerd: it propmted me to select font but nothing about keyboard
[09:55] <meganerd> orchata: I don't know of a GUI, I remember seeing something like that posted in a mag a few years ago, but for wifi hotspot, there is going to be a lot to learn
[09:55] <jdhfr> how to setup NONDESTRUCTIVE keyboard SWITCHING in full-screen consoles?
[09:55] <AlanBell> what do you mean jdhfr?
[09:56] <jdhfr> I need to switch layouts from one to another
[09:57] <cloudgeek> any command line browser for ubuntu server
[09:57] <AlanBell> chiiiiiz: firefox downloads it to ~/Firefox_wallpaper.png and the setting is in gconf-editor and /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[09:57] <AlanBell> jdhfr: what do you mean by nondestructive?
[09:57] <cloudgeek> a browser that can show all conetnt graffic and image also in command line
[09:58] <jdhfr> it means I should be able to switch back
[09:58] <cloudgeek> any browser plz help !! any body working  on
[09:58] <meganerd> cloudgeek: links2?
[09:58] <jdhfr> cloudgeek: w3m?
[09:59] <chiiiiiz> AlanBell: trhanks, but no file with that name... Gconf-editor is for Gnome. Is it the same key for dconf-editor?
[10:00] <JoeBloggs> lasers`, Getting there sorry machines over worked today
[10:01] <cloudgeek> megnerd, jdhfr : i am asking which  best trying your suggestion
[10:01] <lasers`> JoeBloggs: No problem. :)
[10:01] <Xourii> ello everyone
[10:01] <chiiiiiz> AlanBell: no key in dconf-editor with background... even in the desktop/unity part...
[10:02] <Xourii> I'm trying to install a Linux program: I've extracted it into a folder in my home folder... how do I use my program? I'm on my last limb
[10:02] <JoeBloggs> http://pastebin.com/3NGYvntu
[10:02] <jdhfr> !sudo
[10:03] <AlanBell> chiiiiiz: ok, dconf-editor it is org/gnome/desktop/background. same filename on my system, but I am running precise
[10:03] <JoeBloggs> lasers`, http://pastebin.com/3NGYvntu
[10:03] <AlanBell> Xourii: what program?
[10:03] <metaspike> jdhfr, maybe. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[10:04] <Xourii> AlanBell: Second Life for Linux. I'm supposed to "run ./secondlife from the installation directory... HOW DO I DO THAT?
[10:04] <jdhfr> why locales? stop this
[10:04] <lasers`> JoeBloggs: Ty ty!
[10:05] <meganerd> Xourii: put a "." and a "/" in front of the "secondlife" file
[10:05] <Xourii> meganerd: by renaming it?
[10:06] <AlanBell> Xourii: you should be able to just double click the secondlife file in the directory
[10:06] <meganerd> Xourii: I am assuming that you have a command prompt open have used "cd" to go in to the folder
[10:06] <AlanBell> Xourii: no, don't rename anything
[10:06] <JoeBloggs> plsr
[10:06] <Xourii> AlanBell: It's a bunch of files in a folder
[10:07] <metaspike> jdhfr, my mistake, thats for locale specifications *duh. what bout - sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ?
[10:07] <Xourii> AlanBell: and I'm supposed to run ./secondlife from the installation directory, but I don't know what it is or how to get to it
[10:07] <chiiiiiz> AlanBell: there is a file address indeed... but it is not my wall paper... it is the default wallpaper for Gnome3 (with the blue stripes)... any further guess? Thanks anyway
[10:08] <Xourii> meganerd: I downloaded all this off of the secondlife website. It's a bunch of files in a folder.
[10:08] <piotr_> :>
[10:09] <jdhfr> metaspike: thanks, that worked
[10:09] <metaspike> cool
[10:09] <AlanBell> Xourii: ok, using the file manager you can go into the folder and doubleclick the file called secondlife. Alternatively you can start gnome-terminal and do "cd foldername" followed by "./secondlife" the dot slash means run the command called secondlife which is locasted in the current directory
[10:09] <jdhfr> but why stupid installer could not do it automatically?
[10:10] <metaspike> dunno, im not a dev :)
[10:11] <Xourii> AlanBell: "No such file or directory"
[10:11] <Xourii> AlanBell: I named the folder SecondLife
[10:12] <metaspike> Xourii, linux is case sensitive
[10:13] <Xourii> metaspike: ohh...
[10:13] <metaspike> tab to autocomplete also
[10:13] <metaspike> cd SecondLife - ./secondlife
[10:13] <Xourii> Alanbell: now it displays quinn@quinn-Satellite-L305:~/SecondLife$  in the teminal
[10:13] <Xourii> Alanbell: What do I put in now?
[10:14]  * AlanBell downloads secondlife to check
[10:14] <Xourii> AlanBell: Do you have TeamViewer?
[10:15] <LeWiAtAn> hi
[10:15] <AlanBell> Xourii: right now do cd S<tab> and it will type SecondLife-i686-3.2.6.248086
[10:15] <azriel> yes.. yes.. I must feed...
[10:16] <Xourii> Alanbell: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:16] <AlanBell> then hit return and your command prompt will be quinn@quinn-Satellite-L305:~/SecondLife/SecondLife-i686-3.2.6.248086$   then type ./secondlife
[10:16] <Xourii> AlanBell: Running from /home/quinn/SecondLife
[10:16] <Xourii> ./secondlife: line 86: ./etc/register_secondlifeprotocol.sh: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Xourii> ./secondlife: line 89: ./etc/refresh_desktop_app_entry.sh: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Xourii> cat: etc/gridargs.dat: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Xourii> ./secondlife: line 118: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Xourii> *** Bad shutdown. ***
[10:17] <SLayeRDK> Xourii: is there a file named install.sh ?
[10:18] <metaspike> Xourii, try  "sh ./secondlife"
[10:18] <Badman> how to install mplayer2?
[10:18] <Xourii> SLayeRDK: Yes..
[10:18] <Badman> !mplayer2
[10:18] <SLayeRDK> xou then sudo ./install.sh
[10:18] <SLayeRDK> Xourii:  then sudo ./install.sh
[10:18] <AlanBell> SLayeRDK: no, it works
[10:19] <metaspike> yeah, install some out of repository junk to your system, that'll end well
[10:19] <Xourii> SLayeRDK: /install.sh: command not found
[10:19] <AlanBell> Xourii: secondlife runs just fine from the directory without installing it
[10:19] <tarelerulz> Have any of you sent audio from your phone to you laptop via bluetooth?
[10:20] <Xourii> SLayeRDK: Nevermind, forgot the period. What should I put as the installation directory?
[10:20] <AlanBell> Xourii: how did you extract the files?
[10:20] <metaspike> Badman, mplayer2? you mean mplayer version2? mplayer in oneric should be version 3 now, and it's just standard sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:20] <Xourii> AlanBell: I opened the file after downloading it and created a new folder in my home folder, and extracted it to there
[10:21] <Badman> metaspike: http://www.mplayer2.org/
[10:21] <metaspike> oic
[10:21] <AlanBell> Xourii: ok, great now in the file manager go to that directory and doubleclick the file called secondlife. It then opens up a window and lets you log in.
[10:22] <Xourii> SLayeRDK: what do i install it to?
[10:23] <tarelerulz> You install stuff on to android phone?   It has its own package system call .apk  , or you can use recovery to flash .zip file
[10:23] <AlanBell> when you click the file it does ask you if you want to run it in a terminal, edit it or run it, just hit run and it should work
[10:23] <Xourii> AlanBell: I run the secondlife file in terminal
[10:23] <Xourii> Alanbell: And nothing happens
[10:23] <SLayeRDK> Xourii: sorry dont have second life, found that info on the inet
[10:24] <orated> Hello! I want to swap names of .vmdk files over...http://imagebin.org/196012 How can I do this?
[10:24] <dr_willis> second life - old school :) i was thinking there was  an open sourced client out for it now. been yeras since somones mentioned second life.
[10:24] <AlanBell> Xourii:  I don't think you extracted all the files
[10:25] <tarelerulz> any of you used blue tooth ?
[10:25] <AlanBell> Xourii: do you have an etc subfolder in the directory that contains the secondlife file?
[10:25] <dr_willis> tarelerulz:  lots of people use bluetooth.. ask your acutal question
[10:26] <orated> How to swap file names without affecting the contents?
[10:27] <meganerd> tarelerulz: I use a bluetooth mouse with my laptop
[10:28] <tarelerulz> I have a phone with blue tooth and  on my windows install , I can share  audio from the phone to my laptop.  Like hear it though the speaks .   Anyone try that
[10:28] <tarelerulz> on Ubuntu
[10:28] <rabbi1> how to remove a subtitle from a avi file and then add an another ?
[10:29] <meganerd> tarelerulz: nope, have not done that
[10:29] <meganerd> rabbi1: are the subs hard coded then?
[10:29] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  depends on how its encoded in. but ffmpeg, and/or mencoder should be able to do it. They have extensve docs on subtitles and info about them in their FAQ's i recall
[10:29] <AlanBell> Xourii: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/secondlifefiles.png is what the directory of stuff you extracted should look like. If it does not then extract it again, SecondLife just works, the errors you were getting indicate the etc subfolder or some files in them are not there
[10:29] <Xourii> AlanBell: I don't know.. all the files are in the secondlife folder
[10:30] <Xourii> AlanBell: if you have teamviewer, my ID is 354 496 902 and the password is 6226
[10:30] <Xourii>  I don't know what the hell I've done wrong
[10:30] <AlanBell> Xourii: ok, in the etc subfolder is there a file called register_secondlifeprotocol.sh
[10:30] <rabbi1> meganerd: i just added a subtitle directly from a player, but it doesn't seem to have added . should i try "SubDownloader" or mencoder will do it ?
[10:31] <tarelerulz> So far I have sent file to and from the phone via Bluetooth  and I'm using the 3g via bluetooth  now.
[10:31] <metaspike> Xourii, did you try sh ./secondlife ?
[10:31] <metaspike> as opposed to just ./secondlife
[10:31] <Xourii> AlanBell: I don't know what an etc. subfolder is, but When I go to the folder i extracted the stuff into, and search for that file, the exact filename you mentioned comes up
[10:32] <Xourii> metaspike: yes, it asked me what to install it to and i wan't sure what to put in.
[10:32] <metaspike> ~/games/secondlife would suffice
[10:32] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  if subdownloader finds and downloads the proper subtitle files. you can then use a player like vlc and tell it what subtitle file to use.
[10:33] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  no need to merge the subtitle file into the video
[10:33] <rabbi1> dr_willis: but i am unable to disable the existing subtitle. that's more imp to me
[10:33] <metaspike> sily game xD
[10:33] <vibhav> Is there anything like visudo for gtk apps?
[10:34] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  IF the subtitle is hardcoded into the video.. then someone put it in the actual frames of the video. and you cant just remove it.
[10:34] <AlanBell> Xourii: does the directory look exactly like my screenshot?
[10:34] <tarelerulz> Can you share the phone audio via bluetooth  in Ubuntu ?
[10:34] <Xourii> AlanBell: where is your screenshot?
[10:34] <mongy> rabbi1, to remove the subtitles in the video do ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec copy -sn output.avi
[10:34] <AlanBell> Xourii: with app_settings, bin, character etc
[10:34] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/secondlifefiles.png
[10:35] <rabbi1> mongy: ok, will give it a try... toomany different software to be used in here.
[10:35] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  if they are not hardcoded in then mongy 's command should work.  of course if they were not hardcoded in. you should be able to tell the video plaer to not show them also.
[10:35] <Xourii> AlanBell: that was what it looked like before i extracted it
[10:36] <mongy> rabbi1, what dr_willis  said.
[10:36] <rabbi1> hey "subdownloader" does not remove it ....
[10:36] <dr_willis> it gets real fun when you have video files with several differnt subtitle and audio streams.
[10:36] <AlanBell> Xourii: right, well you extracted it wrong then. It needs to look like that, with the subfolder structure. if you download the .tar.bz2 file again and click extract all then it should preserve the folder structure
[10:36] <rabbi1> dr_willis: not to show subtitle is disabled in "movie player" for that video
[10:37] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  sounds like they are hard-coded in.
[10:37] <tarelerulz> VLC is the best with subtitles  and  XBMC is ok .  Subtitles  format is best to use the sub and idx from the source.
[10:37] <dr_willis> ie: built into the actual video.
[10:37] <ikonia> vibhav: I need to pm you, is that acceptable ?
[10:38] <dr_willis> well time to check out this  new drivers.. be back in 4 min...
[10:38] <vibhav> ikonia: yes
[10:39] <sherif> hi, when i open pidgin it hangs
[10:39] <sherif> i reinstalled it still same problem
[10:40] <Maulwurf> open it in the terminal and post error message to let people help you
[10:41] <ashickur-noor> http://www.ultrasong.com/musicvideoblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/asa.jpg
[10:41] <Xourii> AlanBell: redownloaded the file, and double clicked. it now looks exactly like the screenshot you showed me.
[10:41] <ashickur-noor> see this pic
[10:41] <ashickur-noor> How I can solve it?
[10:41] <theadmin> ashickur-noor: Do a real install. Wubi is bad.
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> I know theadmin
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> But the user is new
[10:42] <CoffeePerk> Hello, I had to drop down to root shell prompt to fix something and I can't see the actual shell prompt as it's below the screen... somehow.  Is there some environment variable I need to change and how would I do that?  I've searched online but haven't found anything related to my problem.
[10:42] <theadmin> ashickur-noor: Then do a dual-boot real install.
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> He can not
[10:42] <ashickur-noor> I know Ubi is not good
[10:43] <estan> hi folks. i've just installed oracle java manually from their website on my parent's computer, since my dad uses this silly java applet for playing chess and it only works with oracle java. but how do i make the plugin recognized by browsers (firefox and chrome)?
[10:44] <SickTanick36> hey
[10:44] <theadmin> estan: They provide the instructions for that on the site, do read. It's basically about copying a .so file somewhere to /usr/share/mozilla/plugins or something like that.
[10:44] <estan> i've followed instructions and added the new java to PATH and JAVA_HOME, so the java binary is found. but how do i tell browsers where the plugin is?
[10:44] <estan> theadmin: ah. great. i guess a symlink would work as well?
[10:44] <Xourii> AlanBell: Can't I just run it from the directory I unpacked it into?
[10:46] <theadmin> estan: Guess so. Read it on the site for details, again, I haven't used Oracle's java in quite a while (actually, I have, but my distribution packages it in a sane way, unlike Ubuntu)
[10:47] <estan> theadmin: yep. found the page now. thanks. (i also use openjdk on my own computer (arch), but they have this ancient ubuntu install here)
[10:48] <dr_willis> estan:  i think i saw some ppa/script mentioned on the webupd8 blog site that automated setting up Oracles java on ubuntu
[10:48] <theadmin> estan: Mind if I pm you? (already did but seeing no reply)
[10:49] <estan> dr_willis: yea i saw that they're working on that.
[10:49] <SickTanick36> does anybody know how to fix my USB keyboard signal release problem? there's a bug with the kernal and can't find much help on the "Internet"
[10:49] <dr_willis> estan:  from what i saw about 2 weeks ago.. it was working.. but i havent used it.
[10:50] <estan> dr_willis: yea. i might try it out, but right now i'm doing it the manual way.
[10:51] <aDm082> Im having trouble connecting to the web via browser, but i can connect with every other protocol
[10:52] <aDm082> I ran a nmap scan on both port 80 and 8080 and they are both close
[10:52] <aDm082> could someone help with this issue
[10:53] <SickTanick36> i need new PC....
[10:54] <dr_willis> aDm082:  so your school/work/whatever has port 80 blocked?
[10:54] <SickTanick36> lol
[10:54] <aDm082> im tether through evo
[10:55] <iceroot> aDm082: closed normally means there is nothing running on that port, filtered means a firewall is blocking that port
[10:55] <LjL> aDm082, isn't it possible that your phone carrier forces you to connect to the web through a proxy?
[10:56] <iceroot> aDm082: but there are also cases where closed means firewall
[10:56] <SickTanick36> so uhhhh who all uses ubuntu here? just me?
[10:56] <dr_willis> aDm082:  so somthing like 'wget google.com' gets the proper index.html ?
[10:56] <rhom> I got the dual boot system Ubuntu and Arch, Want to run the Arch on virtualbox ... I saw many blog every one of them explaining how to do with windows. any idea how to do with other distros
[10:56] <aDm082> it was working few hours ago then it just stopped
[10:57] <dr_willis> rhom:  you want to run ubuntu, and run arch IN vbox under ubuntu?
[10:57] <aDm082> Ive been tethering for the past couple weeks
[10:57] <rhom> dr_willis: yup
[10:58] <dr_willis> rhom:  ther should be some guides out (and the vbox manual) detail how to make vbox run a 'real' partition in vbox. but i DO recallit  being not reccomended.. alternativly thers ways to convert a real disk/partion into a  vbox disk image you should be able to boot also.
[10:58] <tommy16> I have an LVM on an MD raid5. I have to load it from a live session. How do I do that? I have assembled the MD, so I can see /dev/md1. But how do I get the actual filesystems from the LVM?
[10:58] <rhom> dr_willis: I made it run the real partition .. I'm stuck with grub stuff
[10:59] <jdhfr> fin what year ubuntu will have sound right after install?
[10:59] <dr_willis> jdhfr:  works fine for me for 90% of my installs..
[10:59] <theadmin> jdhfr: It usually does. If you have a bad sound card, it's your fault :P
[10:59] <aLearner> How do I check if I have a user already under a database? I know that I have apache2 and I vaguely recall typing in some commands to make a 'root' user - anyway I can delete that 'root' user?
[10:59] <aDm082> wget google works
[10:59] <dr_willis> had a few issues with hdmi audio out.
[10:59] <jdhfr> it never works until you check a box somewhere deep in dialog boxes
[11:00] <theadmin> jdhfr: You mean system sounds? Who wants those anyway?
[11:00] <rhom> dr_willis: it not booting . ... just hangs out and shows GRUB.. (I'm confused as the windows has mbr and we got to make the fake mbr or something is there something to do with grub )
[11:00] <jdhfr> ANY sound
[11:00] <jdhfr> it's MUTED by default
[11:00] <theadmin> huhwhat...
[11:00] <theadmin> Never encountered that
[11:00] <theadmin> Weird
[11:00] <dr_willis> rhom:  no idea.  its normally not a good idea to use vbox to boot a real drive.
[11:01] <jdhfr> in each uvuntu since 8.04
[11:01] <dr_willis> so unmute it?
[11:01] <rhom> dr_willis: thanks! but this thing is pretty handy!
[11:01] <_B00> Muted by default? First I've heard and have been using ubuntui desktop since 9.04 lol :-D
[11:02] <dr_willis> given some of the complex sound issues ive seen people have in here.. being muted by default is rather trivial.
[11:02] <dr_willis> rhom:  it can cause data loss doing it that way.
[11:02] <_B00> dr_willis: idd. It's the only thing not making me 100% ubuntu
[11:03] <maZed_> you have the driver for your sound card?
[11:03] <jdhfr> lol it's SB
[11:03] <dr_willis> sound blaster makes a lot of cards/chipsets....
[11:04] <rhom> dr_willis: might be but data loss isn't my concern at the moment
[11:04] <dr_willis> then theres the sb clones that may or may not be true clones.
[11:04] <raphaelle> server/irc.gnome.org
[11:04] <jdhfr> never had problem except ubuntu prefers mute the sound unlike other distros
[11:05] <notyourmkb>  
[11:06] <dr_willis> perhaps http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/alsamixer-and-alsactl-store-adjust-and-save-alsa-mixer-settings-p29/
[11:06] <_B00> IS there any reaons why the Numark DJIO sound interface isn't supported?
[11:06] <_B00> And will it be...
[11:06] <_B00> ?
[11:07] <sec_> anyhow build pc for x64 ubuntu?
[11:07] <jdhfr> it doesn't work because "home directory is not ours"
[11:07] <dr_willis> _B00:  never heard of it. if the company does not release any HW specs for the linux devs to use they have to reverse engineere stuff that makes it harder to get going.
[11:08] <_B00> http://www.numark.com/product/djio
[11:08] <dr_willis> ask the company if they support linux. :)
[11:09] <_B00> out only but I use the behringer: http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA222.aspx which works fine as a digital duplex. I can't see much difference except for no input on djio (only outputs)
[11:10] <_B00> It seems numark only support money...
[11:17] <aDm082> how can I tell if someone has logged into my comp
[11:17] <aDm082> is there a log file for logins
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> who
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> aDm082  i mean: type who in a terminal
[11:18] <aDm082> lol yea
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> ?
[11:18] <dr_willis> whom :)
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> open a terminal and type 'who' (without the quotes)
[11:19] <n3uron_> anyone using epiphany?
[11:19] <dr_willis> !anyone
[11:19] <errno> !who
[11:20] <n3uron_> haha... ok, how secure is epiphany compared to other browsers
[11:21] <dr_willis> better question is how do you benchmark such a thing as security
[11:21] <aLearner> Even after installing phpmyadmin, when I got to 'localhost/phpmyadmin' all I see is 'Index of / phpmyadmin' and a list of files like 'apache.conf', 'config-db.php' etc...What gives?
[11:22] <theadmin> aLearner: Err, is apache's PHP module working properly?
[11:22] <n3uron_> dr_willis, we could step it up a notch with "you cant recognise your brother under a blanket"
[11:22] <aLearner> theadmin: I have no idea. How do I check that? This things is really new to me.
[11:23] <mib> ...
[11:23] <overclucker> aDm082: sudo less /var/log/auth.log
[11:23] <theadmin> aLearner: I dunno, create a file called "index.php" in your web root and put something like this in it: echo 'Hello, world!'
[11:23] <aDm082> does anyone know why im able to connect to the net with all protocol, but im unable to connect to the net with my browser
[11:23] <aLearner> theadmin: Roger that. Will do and report back. Thank you
[11:25] <dr_willis> http://internet-browser-review.toptenreviews.com/
[11:25] <petrov> ...
[11:25] <petrov> fuck
[11:25] <mib> fuck you
[11:26] <aLearner> theadmin: OK I did that. Now, I'm assuming I should go to http://localhost - right? All I see is 'It works! This is the default web page for this server. The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.'
[11:26] <mib> ...anyboby
[11:26] <theadmin> aLearner: Ok, so PHP is not working
[11:26] <Tm_T> mib: petrov: language
[11:26] <mib> ...
[11:26] <aLearner> theadmin: OK...So, what should we do next, then?
[11:26] <theadmin> aLearner: You need to install and configure that. Because I'm not familiar with Ubuntu's php and/or apache setup, I have no idea how to.
[11:27] <mib> no idea
[11:27] <aLearner> theadmin:  Oh OK...
[11:27] <mib> ...
[11:27] <petrov> sry for leanguage
[11:27] <willuk2010> hey, stupid question maybe, but im using precise, and dont have a cog icon on the login screen to select unity-2d, should there be one?
[11:28] <petrov> guys i have problems with updating 10.04
[11:28] <petrov> 11.04*
[11:28] <jrib> !precise | willuk2010
[11:28] <theadmin> willuk2010: Precise is in Alpha stage and unsupported. It's unstable, expected to crash and doensn't have all the expected features. See #ubuntu+1 for any support.
[11:29] <AlanBell> willuk2010: click the guest account then click back, then go to #ubuntu+1 :)
[11:29]  * petrov :)
[11:29] <AlanBell> petrov: what is the problem, we can't see it
[11:30] <willuk2010> Ha, thanks AlanBell !
[11:31] <HJE841> morning
[11:31] <isotta> morning
[11:31] <AlanBell> petrov: in the channel, so everyone can see it, I might not know the answer
[11:31] <AlanBell> !paste | petrov
[11:31] <petrov> ok fine,  when i make sudo apr-get update something goes wrong and lots of errors :/
[11:32] <dr_willis> how.... vague..
[11:32] <dr_willis> :)
[11:32] <AlanBell> petrov: put the errors on pastbin, link above
[11:32] <petrov> ok
[11:33] <petrov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819882/
[11:34] <dr_willis> you have 'dapper' entries in your sources listing for some weird reason....
[11:35] <dr_willis> !dapper
[11:35] <dr_willis> petrov:  so what release of ubuntu are you using?
[11:37] <petrov> i am currently using 11.04 natty
[11:37] <AlanBell> petrov: is this something that you have been upgrading since 2006?
[11:37] <aDm082> whereis httpd.conf
[11:38] <petrov> 2.6.38-11-generic
[11:38] <dr_willis> aDm082:  i would guess /etc/httpd/ or similer
[11:38] <AlanBell> petrov: why do you think you are using 11.04?
[11:38] <jokerdino> hey guys, how do i install adobe flash in 10.04?
[11:39] <petrov> my friend suggested me this distr
[11:39] <dr_willis> !flash | jokerdino
[11:39] <dr_willis> petrov:  you did a recent clean install of this os?
[11:39] <aDm082> lol i need sleep
[11:39] <petrov> dunno what that does mean
[11:39] <aDm082> that was ment for a terminal
[11:39] <dr_willis> petrov:  WHEN did you install it?
[11:39] <AlanBell> petrov: you appear to have Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 from June 2006, not Natty from April 2010
[11:39] <petrov> like 6 months ago
[11:39] <Guest52687> hey guys
[11:40] <Guest52687> hey
[11:40] <petrov> hi
[11:40] <Guest52687> can someone help me with my messed up grub
[11:40] <Guest52687> i really stuck on it
[11:40] <Guest52687> i would like to threw it away
[11:41] <dr_willis> petrov:  then we have to wonder how you got all those 'dapper' entries in your sources listing. since that is a old old release...
[11:41] <dr_willis> petrov:  so what does the output of --->  lsb_release  -r
[11:41] <dr_willis> show.
[11:41] <Guest52687> has someone experience in triple boot systems and grub
[11:41] <Guest52687> ?
[11:41] <dr_willis> Guest52687:  what os's ?
[11:41] <AlanBell> !details | Guest52687
[11:42] <Guest52687> i have a macbook pro
[11:42] <petrov> lsb - 11.04
[11:42] <Guest52687> with win 7 and ubutuntu 11.10
[11:42] <Guest52687> i could get to install every system
[11:42] <JoeBloggs> Macbook Pro dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu ?
[11:42] <dr_willis> petrov:  so we have to again.. wonder how you added the dapper entries to your sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files..  You should remove the dapper entries.
[11:42] <Guest52687> triple boot
[11:42] <dr_willis> bye all - bbl
[11:43] <totesmuhgoats> is there a package for 64 bit flash in 11.10?
[11:43] <Guest52687> i did it with a smaler harddrive
[11:43] <Guest52687> and there it is working without any problem
[11:43] <Guest52687> but grub keeps telling me unknown filesystem
[11:44] <Guest52687> JoeBloggs: do you have experienece with that ?
[11:44] <JoeBloggs> no sorry
[11:44] <petrov> dr_willis can you help me with removing that dapper's/
[11:44] <Guest52687> can someone help me getting around with it ?
[11:45] <aDm082> does anyone know if the reason im unable to connect to the net has something to do with my iptable
[11:45] <jokerdino> totesmuhgoats: you want to install flash in 11.10?
[11:45] <aDm082> im able to connect to the net with everything other than a browser
[11:46] <totesmuhgoats> jokerdino: yep, xubuntu, not ubuntu, i think the latter comes with it preinstalled
[11:46] <spacebug-> aDm082: then it seems to be the browser
[11:46] <jmscomtech> how do i view items minimized to sys tray when the icon doesnt show?
[11:46] <overclucker> aDm082: check your browsers proxy and dns settings
[11:46] <jokerdino> totesmuhgoats: whichever flavour it is, you can install it by this command: `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer`
[11:47] <totesmuhgoats> jokerdino: yea i looked at that but it is multilib
[11:47] <jmscomtech> damn it
[11:47] <totesmuhgoats> im wondering if there isn't a native 64 bit version
[11:47] <mongy> totesmuhgoats, enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[11:47] <mongy> totesmuhgoats, proper 64bit version.
[11:47] <totesmuhgoats> mongy: thanks, thanks to you too jokerdino
[11:49] <Guest52687> I have a Macbook Pro With Lion and 750 gb Harddrive actually in 5 Partitions and with a gpt and a hybrid mbr running and grub installed but it keeps telling me there is unknown filesystem
[11:49] <aDm082> Whenever i run into problems with my sys and I havent made any changes. I usually reboot till it fix itself
[11:49] <Guest52687> can someone help me with find the clue why grub does tell me so ?
[11:50] <petrov> can someone help with updating my ubuntu?
[11:50] <Guest52687> grub is also not fully responding
[11:51] <Guest52687> petov what would you like to update ?
[11:52] <pino551> ciao
[11:53] <Silbersepp> mahlzeit
[11:53] <Silbersepp> weis jemand einen channel für libreoffice anwender
[11:54] <LjL> Silbersepp: #libreoffice, aber auf englisch
[11:54] <Guest52687> join #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[11:54] <Silbersepp> danke,
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> es werden hier viele Sprachen gesprochen
[12:02] <me-1> hi...can I install IE under wine..?
[12:02] <genetic> you can try!
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> me-1  try and you know!
[12:03] <overclucker> !winehq
[12:03] <genetic> why would you want to?
[12:03] <overclucker> browser testing
[12:04] <genetic> it should work
[12:04] <intothewild> can someone help me with my grub problem ?
[12:04] <me-1> genetic,  my official works requires me to use IE
[12:04] <CoffeePerk> I boot into root shell at recovery mode and type echo "$LINES" to get 30 when it should be 25.  I tried export LINES=25 but that fixed nothing.  What file do I permanently change the environmental variable LINES?
[12:04] <genetic> have you tried it it should work
[12:05] <me-1> genetic,  does latest version works..?
[12:05] <intothewild> can someone help me with my grub problem ?
[12:05] <genetic> now that depends on what version of wine you have
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> !ask| intothewild
[12:06] <genetic> and even if you have the latest you will still have to try
[12:07] <intothewild> grub is telling me unknown filesystem
[12:07] <jaspreet> kk
[12:07] <intothewild> and prompts rescue console
[12:07] <jaspreet> hi
[12:07] <intothewild> but there is no command that i can put in except of set
[12:08] <genetic> I have a problem were sound in one profile works good but not in another?
[12:08] <jaspreet> hey
[12:08] <genetic> strange thing is that some programs still have sound in the bad profile
[12:08] <jaspreet> :)
[12:09] <genetic> anyone have a clue
[12:10] <jaspreet> anyone tell me how to use d pidgin...
[12:11] <jaspreet> hellooooooo
[12:12] <zennez0009> Juz wondering is Compiz working well with 11.10?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> zennez0009  what do you mean by 'working well'?
[12:13] <zennez0009> i heard people have to reinstall ubuntu after they mess it up
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> zennez0009  the trick is: don't mess it up
[12:13] <Roedeer> hi guys, i have a problem. ubuntu 11.04 (kernel 2.6.38.13) doesn't detect internet key Huawei E353. with lsusb i read this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819911/. any idea?
[12:14] <bosjnev> zennez0009: u can use ubuntu_tweak tool for the gnome 3 shell.
[12:14] <jaspreet> y u people like pidgin messanger,,,,,,plz tell me d features
[12:14] <mongy> zennez0009, if you mess it up, drop to a console like ctrl alt F1 or if you can run a terminal in the current session,  and issue the command unity --reset
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> jaspreet  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:16] <Roedeer> hi guys, i have a problem. ubuntu 11.04 (kernel 2.6.38.13) doesn't detect internet key Huawei E353. with lsusb i read this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819911/. any idea?
[12:16] <jaspreet> actually i use d ubuntu first tym
[12:16] <zennez0009> bosjnev: im juz wondering if compiz is worth the install.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> zennez0009  to reset Compiz to defaults, use this line, but be careful with it => gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace
[12:17] <jaspreet> nd i hav to make a project of internet messanger.....plz give me sum hints
[12:18] <zennez0009> which is better xchat or xchat gnome?
[12:18] <scarleo> xchat
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> zennez0009  depends on what you like more
[12:19] <Roedeer> hi guys, i have a problem. ubuntu 11.04 (kernel 2.6.38.13) doesn't detect internet key Huawei E353. with lsusb i read this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819911/. any idea?
[12:19] <zennez0009> is there a way to switch the colours of xchat . like a theme setting. instead of changing them one by one
[12:19] <jaspreet> help me guyz
[12:19] <akyoo> I just new here, is there a way of making xchat more friendly?
[12:20] <lasers`> zennez0009: You can change whatever you want at ~/.xchat2
[12:20] <dotweb> Hi guys
[12:20] <oCean> jaspreet: if you don't have a technical issue, please try #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[12:20] <dotweb> can anyone here help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/99259/i-have-extreme-lag-after-updating-a-lot-of-kde-packages-what-to-do-now
[12:20] <_skpl> zennez0009, google xchat themes
[12:22] <FishFace> dotweb: I had the same exact problem. And it was impossible to even get off the desktop to do anything. Tried fixing it for days. Gave up and slapped in the install CD and started over. Sorry.
[12:23] <jaspreet> ocean:ok
[12:23] <zennez0009> _skpl thanks:)
[12:23] <cloudgeek> what laguage should need use to write a opensource  software like Dropbox
[12:23] <FishFace> I will say though that the install lets you do 4 options. One of them is to keep all your data and start that way. Or just start over is another option.
[12:24] <akyoo> Java will be cool
[12:24] <Gentoo64> cloudgeek, dropbox is writteren in python it seems
[12:25] <dotweb> FishFace: Yep, but I will lose all of my KDE settings
[12:25] <dotweb> DId you reinstall the system or just KDE?
[12:25] <FishFace> dotweb: I really liked the feel of KDE. But this time it failed me. I think you will lose your settings. No more KDE for me - for now anyway.
[12:26] <dotweb> :3
[12:26] <dotweb> What do you think about downgrading to 4.7?
[12:28] <FishFace> Didnt try. Was such a mess I basically gave up after 2 days.
[12:28] <Roedeer> hi guys, i have a problem. ubuntu 11.04 (kernel 2.6.38.13) doesn't detect internet key Huawei E353. with lsusb i read this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819911/. any ide
[12:28] <dotweb> It's a bit sad. 4.8 was way faster than 4.7 for me :/ And I don't really like Unity or Gnome
[12:28] <cloudgeek> Gentoo64 : more idea !!
[12:29] <Chotaz> How can I get ubuntu to detect my webcam?
[12:30] <Calinou> Chotaz: ...settings?
[12:30] <Calinou> what is your webcam?
[12:30] <Calinou> do you really need it?
[12:30] <Chotaz> YEs, I do
[12:30] <Calinou> (sorry, but I feel like 99% of people making videos with it are making useless videos, or just use useless video chat)
[12:31] <canepazzo> ciao
[12:31] <Chotaz> I have work meetings via skype
[12:31] <Calinou> dotweb: xfce or gnome2 :P
[12:31] <Chotaz> I need this workin
[12:31] <Calinou> use ubuntu 11.04 if you want gnome 2
[12:31] <Calinou> ok... what is the brand of your webcam
[12:31] <Chotaz> NGS
[12:31] <canepazzo> !list
[12:34] <Sivik> anyone have issues with wine not working?
[12:34] <wondering> goodmorning.. my video is a little choppy??  is there any way to kill some programs and boost proformance?
[12:34] <Calinou> Sivik: explain, please - also #winehq should be more adapted for this question
[12:34] <d3eniz> hello :) Anyone know how to install vmware-player in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:34] <Calinou> wondering: what is your graphics card?
[12:34] <Erealz> hi everyone
[12:35] <Calinou> if they are available, install proprietary drivers
[12:35] <wondering> Calinou
[12:35] <Sivik> Calinou, http://pastebin.com/EsJ5Cb8b
[12:35] <wondering> dont know
[12:35] <Erealz> those anyone run desura?
[12:35] <Calinou> also, disable desktop effects (compositing), may help if you use resource-heavy games
[12:35] <wondering> Calinou I dont know.. It is a laptop
[12:35] <Sivik> d3eniz, apt-get install vmware-player
[12:35] <d3eniz> dont work. Cant find the package
[12:35] <Calinou> why do you do it in /usr/bin?
[12:35] <Calinou> did you use sudo apt-get install wine(version)?
[12:35] <Sivik> Calinou, installed it using apt-get
[12:36] <Sivik> Calinou, thats where it put it
[12:36] <Calinou> wondering: laptops of today often have integrated GPUs, resulting in poor performance
[12:36] <d3eniz> i read that i need to enable multiverse but no idea how to do that
[12:36] <Chotaz> Calinou: brand of ym webcam is NGS
[12:36] <Calinou> bigger laptops sometimes have "real" graphic cards, but less often than before
[12:36] <Calinou> d3eniz: it is enabled by default
[12:36] <Calinou> Chotaz: I don't use a webcam so I don't really know :/
[12:37] <Calinou> I had a NGS headset before, worked perfectly
[12:37] <Merpati> #xubuntu
[12:37] <Merpati> how to change to different IRC ?
[12:38] <d3eniz> hmm, well that dont work. Can find the package then :P "E: Unable to locate package vmware-player"
[12:39] <jaspreet> wat is d future of java
[12:40] <dotweb> Is there a way to update to KDE 4.8 without installing all the other updates and packages in the kde backports PPA?
[12:40] <jaspreet> hiiiiii
[12:40] <jaspreet> btayo
[12:41] <ganesha__> n
[12:41] <jaspreet> wat iz d future
[12:41] <jaspreet> ooo
[12:46] <anthony_dev> hi. guys, I cant find system-config-services for ubuntu. any suggestions?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> anthony_dev  is that the package name?
[12:48] <goncalo> anthony_dev: that is a package in fedora, it may not be available to ubuntu
[12:50] <anthony_dev> I use this package in centOS, so I tought there is some software like this in ubuntu -_-
[12:51] <petrov> hi everybody
[12:51] <techy777> does ubuntu support html5?
[12:51] <techy777> hi petrov
[12:52] <g0kul> techy777, html5 has nothing to do with an os.
[12:52] <fidel> techy777: browser-topic
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> techy777  http://www.youtube.com/html5
[12:54] <techy777> gotcha thanks
[12:54] <saef> Hi all!
[12:54] <saef> i have problem
[12:54] <theTroy> hi! I have connected a full HD screen to my laptop by HDMI, and it seems that the only resolution that nvidia settings panel allows is 640x480. Is there a way to change that?
[12:55] <saef> Hep please!
[12:55] <Sharky> is there a way were i can use GNOME with out untey
[12:55] <saef> Help please!
[12:55] <bazhang> !notunity | Sharky
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> !help| saef
[12:55] <bazhang> saef, ask a question
[12:55] <Sharky> bazhang, thanks
[12:56] <Jackneill> can you help me? i have ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE. i got the login screen, after i try to login i got a black screen after again the login screen
[12:56] <Jackneill> i have had problem also before
[12:56] <fidel> Jackneill: is that gdm/lightdm or what kind of login-manager?
[12:56] <saef> Lubi
[12:57] <saef> Why Lubi not develop now?
[12:57] <Jackneill> but then i got the black screen with some text and an error messagebox: Could not update ~/.ICEAuzhority file. I deleted this file and it was good. now again such  problem i dont know why..
[12:57] <Jackneill> fidel: lightdm i think
[12:57] <Jackneill> the default
[12:58] <saef> ?
[12:58] <Sharky> saef, ?
[12:58] <saef> Why Lubi not develop now?
[12:58] <fidel> saef: try to rephrase to areal question ;)
[12:58] <saef> Why Lubi not developing now?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Lubi is a kind of Wubi
[12:58] <saef> ok
[12:59] <Sharky> !gnome
[12:59] <saef> Lumi make new "home", but i have "home", how using my "home"?
[12:59] <deostroll> hi my upgrade using the alternate iso from 10.10 to 11.04 ended abruptly...hence I could not log-in to my desktop...it hangs at the login screen
[12:59] <saef> Lubi make new "home", but i have "home", how using my "home"?
[13:00] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? my problem is above.
[13:00] <saef> ?
[13:00] <Sharky> !spam saef
[13:00] <cloudgeek> a good dictonary for english on can installed on ubuntu and a free laguage trnaltion software if use anybody
[13:01] <zhuhuan> where
[13:01] <saef> help please?
[13:01] <saef> help please!?
[13:01] <saef> i no spammer
[13:01] <saef> not
[13:01] <saef> Everyone !? hey!?
[13:01] <Sharky> seaf it looks like it
[13:01] <saef> Who know LUBI!?
[13:02] <lomandv> 这里有人说中国话的吗
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !cn| lomandv
[13:02] <saef> !ch
[13:02] <gadzks> Help?  Alps touchpad dies but joystick still works.  Ideas?
[13:02] <Sharky> saef its wubi?
[13:02] <saef> i cry
[13:02] <saef> :(
[13:02] <LukeNukem> hey guys i had issues of sound not working yesterday but i changed jacks and it started working but the current jack im using gives annoying crackling noises in the headphone, this happened in windows when i used the same jack but when i changed to another jack it worked perfectly but the other jack wont work in ubuntu..
[13:02] <LukeNukem> any ideas as to why it wont?
[13:03] <saef> Lubi is Wubi for Linux
[13:03] <lomandv> 我输入这个/join #ubuntu-cn，但没什么反应啊
[13:03] <saef> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/
[13:03] <Sharky> !wubi staf
[13:03] <Sharky> !wubi:  staf
[13:04] <LukeNukem> !wubi: saef
[13:04] <LukeNukem> :P
[13:04] <saef> !admins
[13:04] <Sharky> LukeNukem, thanks
[13:04] <saef> help please
[13:04] <zhuhuan> I want to spake chinese
[13:04] <Sharky> !admins
[13:05] <saef> what lubricant to use?
[13:05] <Sharky> !ch
[13:05] <LukeNukem> is he trolling?
[13:05] <saef> What lubricant to use? Help please! Bad enlesh sorry
[13:05] <saef> Howto?
[13:05] <oCean> saef: what are you talking about? What is your exact question?
[13:05] <Sharky> LukeNukem, yep he is and spaminf too
[13:05] <Sharky> soz
[13:05] <LukeNukem> lubricant? the hell?
[13:05] <saef> maybe preconfig?
[13:06] <celthunder> LukeNukem: seems to be
[13:06] <oCean> !details | saef
[13:06] <saef> Lubi make new "home", but i have "home", how using my "home"?
[13:06] <saef> In process of installation
[13:06] <g0kul> !ops | saef
[13:06] <oCean> g0kul: what is it?
[13:07] <oCean> g0kul: lubi is an installer indeed
[13:07] <oCean> saef: I'm not sure if it's possible to use your own home directory
[13:07] <saef> How no?
[13:07] <saef> Lubi beta version?
[13:08] <Sharky> i got gnome whats next?
[13:08] <oCean> saef: have you tried asking on lubi forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441918
[13:08] <saef> Why Lubi not developing today?
[13:08] <gadzks> Running 11.10.  Alps Touchpad dies after a while, but the joystick keeps working.  All was fine under 10.04.  Ideas???
[13:08] <saef> No
[13:08] <saef> i not have accaunt
[13:09] <saef> You ask please ok?
[13:09] <oCean> saef: please don't keep posting messages without an actual question
[13:09] <oCean> !ru | saef
[13:09] <saef> Very good programm Lubi
[13:09] <Sharky> !ask | seaf
[13:09] <saef> ok and
[13:10] <jakes> when i build package list for install bt5 menu commnd:links -http-proxy myproxyserver.com:8080 -dump http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt5/binary/ | awk '{print $3}' | grep -i deb | cut -d . -f 1 > backtrack.txt
[13:10] <saef> What lubricant to use? Help please! Bad enlesh sorry
[13:10] <Sharky> omg
[13:10] <jakes> than no host route
[13:10] <saef> yes it message
[13:10] <saef> What lubricant to use? Help please! Bad enlesh sorry
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> saef  you're trolling
[13:10] <saef> oCean, HOWTO?
[13:10] <jakes> when i build package list for install bt5 menu commnd:links -http-proxy myproxyserver.com:8080 -dump http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt5/binary/ | awk '{print $3}' | grep -i deb | cut -d . -f 1 > backtrack.txt than no host rout
[13:11] <Sharky> ok i need help on 11.04 i have downloaded gnome and not knowing what to do next im  on unty atm
[13:11] <saef> monkwy ?
[13:11] <jakes> how can i install?
[13:11] <saef> oh no sure
[13:11] <saef> bad translations
[13:11] <saef> http://translate.google.com
[13:11] <gadzks> Running 11.10.  Alps Touchpad dies after a while, but the joystick keeps working.  All was fine under 10.04.  Ideas???
[13:12] <Sharky> oCean, thanks
[13:12] <g0kul> oCean, that's what i was saying
[13:12] <Sharky> ok i need help on 11.04 i have downloaded gnome and not knowing what to do next im  on unty trying to get Gnome
[13:12] <bazhang> Sharky, choose classic from the login window
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Sharky  unity is gnome with compiz on top of it
[13:13] <Sharky> bazhang, thanks
[13:13] <AdminSetup> Hi...HOw to open Users and groups in UBuntu 11.10 ? I want to add my account in "vboxusers"...
[13:13] <gadzks> Running 11.10.  Alps Touchpad dies after a while, but the joystick keeps working.  All was fine under 10.04.  Ideas???
[13:13] <Sharky> MonkeyDust, i hate unity btw i miss the panels
[13:14] <mongy> AdminSetup, sudo usermod -G vboxusers  -a username
[13:15] <AdminSetup> mongy : Can it be done graphically ?
[13:16] <fruitbag> What variant of microprocessor is used in a typical RAID controller chip?
[13:16] <mongy> AdminSetup, try users-admin from terminal
[13:16] <mongy> AdminSetup, I think that's the old gui with more options
[13:16] <bazhang> fruitbag, thats a question for ##hardware
[13:17] <mongy> AdminSetup, that usermod command will do what you want however.
[13:17] <AdminSetup> Thanks mongy :)
[13:19] <gadzks> Running 11.10.  Alps Touchpad dies after a while, but the joystick keeps working.  All was fine under 10.04.  Ideas???  I think a recent update caused the problem.
[13:21] <AdminSetup> mongy : Its working...!! :) Thanks again..
[13:21] <bullgard4> http://code.google.com/p/vt-middleware/: "Gator is a log aggregating server and Web application that allows central configuration and collection of logging for Java applications using the log4j framework." <-- What does »collection of logging« mean?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> !gpointing-device-settings| gadzks
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> gadzks  try gpointing-device-settings
[13:24] <gadzks> is that a terminal command?
[13:24] <bones> From last 15 minutes, recent update and upgrade process is stuck on the last line - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820000/ How can I fix this? Its a initrmfs update
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> gadzks  it's a small gui you can install, but there's also something in GRUB you can modify, i forget what exactly
[13:27] <gadzks> will try.  It appears a glydepoint driver is installed but I have a dualpoint
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> gadzks  i found this http://www.multimediaboom.com/touchpad-not-working-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-resolve-it/
[13:27] <cloudgeek> error with googlecommand cli
[13:28] <cloudgeek> in installtion help
[13:28] <bullgard4> bones: 1. Analyze dmesg.
[13:28] <curiousx> aloha!
[13:28] <curiousx> i have a little problem =P http://paste.ubuntu.com/820003/
[13:29] <curiousx> with my repos, y add this PPA and boob: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> curiousx  ask in #backtrack-linux
[13:29] <ssta> curiousx: are we sure backtrack-linux.org is up?
[13:29] <curiousx> i have ubuntu 10.04
[13:29] <bullgard4> curiousx: Please state your problem in ths form of a specific question.
[13:29] <aDm082> Does anyone have a clue as to why none of my browsers are worker but im able to connect with irc ftp and other protocols. I thought It could be the firewall or maybe the proxy but its neither one of those. Ive been tethering through a flashed evo for about a week or two
[13:29] <curiousx> mmm... yep the BT's is up, is just my mistake with that PPA
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> curiousx  PPAs are not supported, rather ask the maintainer
[13:30] <bullgard4> aDm082: Probably your DNS system is mis-configured.
[13:30] <ssta> curiousx: I just tried and it's up.  Can you try again?  Looks to me like it was down
[13:30] <ssta> the URL it's trying to fetch is invalid
[13:30] <curiousx> bullgard4: i mean, when i did, "sudo apt-get update" it give these ouput, and i can not install any pakage =(
[13:30] <giuseppe60> hello
[13:31] <curiousx> i removed de conflict PPA but the problem still =(
[13:31] <bones> bullgard4: This is dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820008/
[13:31] <JoMs> Hello, I'm trying to install the XBMC Eden Beta2 on Ubuntu 11.10. And in this process I've been adding a lot of repos to the list, and now I'm unable to remove them. They are not in /etc/apt/sources.list, but when I press remove in settings in software center, it prompts me for password, but nothing happens after that. Do anyone have a tip for this?
[13:32] <curiousx> same problem JoMs
[13:32] <JoMs> curiousx: and trying to install xbmc?
[13:32] <bullgard4> curiousx: One line reads: " Connection failed." So please establish a connection to your repository.
[13:32] <curiousx> nop, i have a problem with my repos =(
[13:32] <JoMs> okey
[13:33] <JoMs> stil good to know it's not just me :)
[13:33] <ssta> JoMs/curiousx: PPAs in general don't go into sources.list, they go into files (one per PPA usually) in /etc/sources.list.d
[13:33] <JoMs> I'll check that out
[13:33] <curiousx> bullgard4: give a minute, i'll tried it
[13:33] <giuseppe60> for the following PC Pentium 4 CPU 1500 MHZ. 1 GB Ram, what type of lightweight operating system do you recommend?
[13:33] <curiousx> brb
[13:33] <bullgard4> bones: I asked you to analyze dmesg, not me.
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> giuseppe60  try Lubuntu
[13:34] <JoMs> well, now they are gone when I ran update :)
[13:34] <ssta> giuseppe60: any will work, just try to stay away from heave desktop environments (skip unity, gnome, kde).  Something based on lxde maybe
[13:34] <JoMs> thanks ssta, seemed to work!
[13:34] <Guest67973> hi im having problems booting ubuntu after a clean install. it either hangs at the purple screen after grub, or a flashing cursor which then gives me udevd timeout messages
[13:35] <ssta> JoMs: good stuff, good luck with it
[13:35] <JoMs> thanks. let's hope I get in the beta2 this time.
[13:35] <giuseppe60> MonkeyDust,  is good lubuntu ??
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> !lubuntu| giuseppe60
[13:36] <curiousx> the same thing =(
[13:37] <Guest67973> hi im having problems booting ubuntu after a clean install. it either hangs at the purple screen after grub, or a flashing cursor which then gives me udevd timeout messages
[13:37] <giuseppe60> MonkeyDust,  ubuntu 11.10 + lxde ???
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> giuseppe60  yes
[13:37] <ssta> curiousx: does the following work, or give an error? : wget http://32.repository.backtrack-linux.org/dists/revolution/testing/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[13:38] <OerHeks> Guest67973, do you use a Nvidia videocard ?
[13:38] <Sharky> how can i make panels cus i cant seem to edit them
[13:38] <Guest67973> yea
[13:38] <OerHeks> Guest67973, try nomodeset
[13:38] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> giuseppe60  read this http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[13:39] <Guest67973> oerheks aight ill try that thanks
[13:39] <gadzks> MonkeyDust: The entry was empty so I entered the info, saved and rebooted.  No I have to wait to see it the touchpad crashes...
[13:39] <OerHeks> Guest67973, let us know if it works.
[13:39] <Sharky> how can i make panels cus i cant seem to edit them useing 11.04
[13:40] <gadzks> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the help.  We will see...
[13:40] <giuseppe60> MonkeyDust,   Download Ubuntu 11.10 and put as graphics lxde   or downloa  Lubuntu
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> giuseppe60  download Lubuntu
[13:40] <curiousx> ssta: wget?
[13:40] <Guest67973> oerheks wait so how do i boot with nomodeset?
[13:40] <curiousx> mmm... to my backtrack's repo ?
[13:40] <giuseppe60> MonkeyDust,  ok
[13:41] <OerHeks> Guest67973, hold shoft @ boot, enter grub  menu, add nomodeset, save it and boot.
[13:41] <Guest67973> oerheks does it matter where i add it?
[13:41] <curiousx> for sure dude just the PPA i added, broke the things =(
[13:41] <al-tabq> how do i use rename to rename a bunch of folders in a directory? they contain a constant prefix that i want to remove (i.e. ~/foo_1/ ; ~/foo_2/ etc)
[13:41] <Sharky> ok im useing old school gnome and i cant make new or edit the panels on 11.04 its makeing me mad
[13:41] <giuseppe60> ssta,  lubuntu
[13:42] <pksadiq> al-tabq: see manpage of rename
[13:42] <OerHeks> Guest67973, yes, add nomodeset to >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " like the URL shows you
[13:42] <Guest67973> oerheks ok thanks :)
[13:43] <giuseppe60> ssta,    I also advise you Lubuntu
[13:43] <Sharky> ok im useing old school gnome and i cant make new or edit the panels on 11.04 its makeing me mad
[13:43] <al-tabq> pksadiq, i just skimmed through..didn't see it
[13:43] <robin0800> Sharky: hold alt and right click
[13:43] <curiousx> Sharky: do you wanna edit Unity ?
[13:43] <Sharky> curiousx, nope i hate it
[13:44] <curiousx> ok
[13:44] <alix__> Hello, I have two GTX 580 (SLI / Nvidia) with one monitor on each card. I activated twinview, my two GPU are detected but the second screen is not detected.
[13:44] <alix__> It drive me crazy.
[13:46] <pksadiq> al-tabq: may be rename 's/[0-9]$//' *    removes the numbers at the end of each file
[13:46] <al-tabq> pksadiq i want it the other way round, i want the numbers to stay, only foo_ should be removed
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> alix__  maybe this link helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/7766/does-twinview-work-with-nvidia-sli#7772
[13:47] <Sharky> thanks guys
[13:47] <Sharky> !!
[13:48] <wolff> oerheks nomodeset worked thanks for the help
[13:48] <OerHeks> wolff have fun !
[13:48] <alix__> MonkeyDust, I already read this post. I read all the Internet.
[13:48] <ssta> alix__: I've never been able to get multiple nvidia cards working reliably with 11.10.  I think it's a probvlem in the nvidia driver that shows up with 11.10's xorg.  Seems like the Xorg has trouble initialising the second card.  I've had it to the stage where it works sometimes, about one boot in 5.  I reverted that machine to 10.04 where it works perfectly
[13:49] <alix__> hum :(
[13:49] <wolff> does anyone know how to fix package dependancies when installing smuxi?
[13:49] <ssta> alix__: if you do get it working reliably, let me know, I'd definitely be interested
[13:49] <alix__> Ok, i'm working on it
[13:49] <ssta> for that machine, if 12.04 doesn't fix it, it's getting debianized
[13:50] <ssta> wolff: "package dependencies"?
[13:50] <curiousx> cya
[13:50] <alix__> ssta, can you paste me your xorg.conf ? Just curious
[13:51] <ssta> alix__: that machine is in work, so no, not easily :)
[13:51] <aguitel> ssta, what card model ?
[13:51] <pksadiq> al-tabq: may be rename 's/[^0-9]//g' *
[13:51] <ssta> okay, lemme vpn to work and look
[13:51] <ssta> take me a few minutes
[13:51] <Hendrick> bonjour a tous
[13:51] <wolff> ssta when i try to install smuxi it spits out: the following packages have unmet dependencies
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> !fr| Hendrick
[13:51] <wolff> ssta E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:51] <ssta> wolff: pastebin the exact output
[13:52] <rescuemode> hello
[13:52] <al-tabq> pksadiq rename s/foo_// * worked
[13:52] <rescuemode> i think my ubuntu server got compromised. is there a special channel to ask quesions?
[13:52] <wolff> http://pastebin.com/eQBgms0W
[13:53] <al-tabq> pksadiq thanks
[13:53] <pksadiq> al-tabq: hm, the string was constant, didn't noticed that
[13:54] <ssta> aguitel: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 295] (rev a1)#
[13:54] <ssta> aguitel: both cards are the same model
[13:54] <Kongstad> Hi, I have issues with my graphic card in Ubuntu 10.04. My card is Geforce 210. Despite installed Nvidia_current 290.10 I cannot enable 3D and searching for the 'Hardware Drivers' only reports 'This driver is activated but not currently in use'. I have been searching the net, but not found a solution. Hopefully someone can offer me help.
[13:55] <alix__> ssta, ok
[13:55] <ironhalik> Why do I get ugly plymouth on open source drivers? Its not supposed to happen :P
[13:55] <Guest38521> CIAO
[13:55] <wolff> ssta heres the pastebin http://pastebin.com/eQBgms0W
[13:56] <rescuemode> the "last" comand says "wtmp begins Sat Jan  7". The server has been up since september. does this mean it has been cleared?
[13:56] <Gentoo64> Guest38521: dont say list :)
[13:56] <Guest38521> CIAO
[13:56] <bones> From last 15 minutes, recent update and upgrade process is stuck on the last line - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820000/ How can I fix this? Its related to initrmfs update. This is dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820008/
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64  a beer if he does
[13:56] <ssta> alix__: http://pastebin.com/fjz1WbL8
[13:56] <Gentoo64> ok
[13:56] <bones> 45 minutes*
[13:56] <curiousx> i fix it up =)
[13:56] <ssta> actually, I think it's running 11.10, not 10.04
[13:57] <curiousx> i just comment the lines: #deb http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[13:57] <al-tabq> pksadiq do you know how to set the folder depth?
[13:57] <curiousx> and #deb http://32.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[13:57] <curiousx> finaly #deb http://source.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[13:57] <curiousx> what a good fix i did =P
[13:57] <ssta> wolff: presumably you've held something.  Try: sudo apt-get -f install and see if it helps
[13:58] <pksadiq> al-tabq: do you have the rename the same constant string?
[13:58] <curiousx> and now i still adding PPA =P i trying sofware =)
[13:58] <al-tabq> pksadiq yes
[13:58] <vincenzo> wolf.darksin.ch
[13:58] <alix__> thank you ssta :]
[13:59] <ssta> alix__: good luck with it...
[13:59] <alix__> ssta, why are you using xinerama ?
[13:59] <curiousx> yep, and then answer yes and yes both question
[13:59] <ssta> alix__: because it works?
[13:59] <pksadiq> al-tabq: I might use find . | xargs
[14:00] <wolff> ssta nope that didnt work
[14:00] <al-tabq> pksadiq that's what i thought too, but find finds the same string within the files as well..
[14:00] <al-tabq> pksadiq oh but rename only renames files right, unlike sed
[14:01] <ssta> alix__: basically this is the xorg.conf that the nvidia-config tool wrote for me...after the pain I had and inability to get anything done for most of a day, I was happy just to leave it alone...what's there works, I don't weant to break it by "fixing" it :)
[14:01] <llutz> al-tabq: find . -type d ....
[14:02] <Erealz> hey all quick question those anyone know the tool called screen?
[14:02] <alix__> I'm trying for you ;)
[14:03] <Gentoo64> Erealz: yep
[14:03] <Erealz> cool
[14:04] <Erealz> so im trying to figure out what im doing wrong exactly  i wana make a split in my window but it not seem to work for me im not sure if im misunderstanding the keybord shortcute
[14:04] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work
[14:04] <Erealz> for example to make a split
[14:04] <nopf> Erealz: ^aS with the defautl ^a key binding
[14:04] <Erealz> shortcute is ctrl a s right?
[14:04] <Gentoo64> Erealz: well i dont use screen but tmux which does same thing, btu i think has different key bindings
[14:04] <nopf> Erealz: that's a LARGE s
[14:04] <ssta> Erealz: "S", case matters, capital S
[14:05] <Erealz> wow hold on
[14:05] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work
[14:05] <Erealz> so i do i have to configure the file or somthing
[14:05] <Erealz> ctrl a S
[14:05] <ssta> Erealz: you can also do ^A : and type the command "split", which might be easier to remember
[14:06] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome
[14:06] <al-tabq> llutz pksadiq i tried 'find . *.txt?|xargs rename /foo_// *' with error "xargs: unterminated quote"
[14:06] <llutz> al-tabq: find . -type d .... -iname \*.txt|xargs rename 's/foo_//'
[14:06] <aguitel> Kongstad, run:sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:06] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome
[14:07] <llutz> al-tabq: wait, haven't you asked about directories?
[14:07] <Kongstad> aguitel: Have tried to no avail
[14:07] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome
[14:07] <subb1> hello all !
[14:07] <tejaswi_> Is there a way to use man to get information about the data structures used such as "struct stat" etc?
[14:07] <subb1> need some help on linux basics
[14:07] <Erealz> im lost
[14:07] <aguitel> Kongstad, there is /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[14:08] <Kongstad> yes
[14:08] <Sharky> !help | subbl
[14:08] <ssta> tejaswi_: many have manpages
[14:08] <nopf> tejaswi_: man 2 stat
[14:08] <Gentoo64> Kongstad: nvidia-xconfig should make xorg.conf.new
[14:08] <Gentoo64> which you have to move
[14:08] <Erealz> everytime i hold ctrl then a and s it dosnt work
[14:08] <subb1> apart from the fact that a UID and GID needs to be unique on a system...  Is it a forced mandatory convention that a newly created normal user's UID & GID will be the same?
[14:08] <Erealz> jesus
[14:08] <Erealz> i feel stupid
[14:08] <nopf> Erealz: use a LARGE S
[14:08] <al-tabq> llutz, originally yes.. the original hierarchy was ~/.../foo_1/foo_1.txt' which i want to change to ~/.../1/1.txt     i already managed to use rename to get ~/.../1/foo_1.txt  (with help of pksadiq)
[14:08] <tejaswi_> thank you for the information
[14:08] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome
[14:08] <ssta> Erealz: press ctrl-A, then release it, then press capital S
[14:09] <spanner3003> hi peeps where can i find a good low prices sever on the web for building android?
[14:09] <ssta> Erealz: not all three keys pressed at once
[14:09] <Erealz> ohhhh
[14:09] <Erealz> ok hold on
[14:09] <bones> From almost 1 hour now, recent update and upgrade process is stuck on the last line - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820000/ How can I fix this?? Its related to initrmfs update. This is dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/820008/
[14:09] <al-tabq> llutz so now i only have to rename all .txt files in the subdirectories to remove all the foo_
[14:09] <bones> Please. I cannot even consider shutting system down
[14:09] <Kongstad> Gentoo64: nvidia-xconfig do not resolve issue
[14:09] <llutz> al-tabq: use find ... -type f then
[14:10] <Sharky> spanner3003, this is ubuntu help room not buy and sell
[14:10] <Sharky> spanner3003, this is ubuntu help room not buy and sell
[14:10] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome
[14:10] <spanner3003> lol
[14:10] <spanner3003> well i would like a free one realy
[14:10] <Erealz> oki think i got it
[14:10] <LjL> !ot | spanner3003
[14:10] <Erealz> shit they dont explain that
[14:11] <LjL> Erealz, language please
[14:11] <Erealz> here im thinking i gota hold all those keeys
[14:11] <Erealz> sorry
[14:11] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome i tryed to look about but i cant find it
[14:11] <spanner3003> oh sorry thank you
[14:11] <iamelite> If I want to update from 10.04 to 11.10, can I just run install manager with the -d flag?
[14:12] <ssta> Erealz: yeah, seems natural once you know, but if you don't know ewasy to be confused.  I recommend you have a good look through the screen manpage, screen is a *powerful* little tool, and the more you know about how it works, the more you'll get out of it
[14:12] <al-tabq> llutz, shouldn't "find . *.txt -type f |xargs rename s/foo_// *" work ? i get an error
[14:12] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome i tryed to look about but i cant find it
[14:12] <llutz> al-tabq: find . -type f -iname \*.txt|xargs rename 's/foo_//'
[14:12] <tprice> can someone give me advice with having 2 monitors of different size and not havgin a hidden gap on the smaller monitor
[14:13] <Sharky> hey  how do i get Compiz to work on 11.04 with old school gnome i tryed to look about but i cant find it  im haveing a hard time looking for it i cant seem to find it
[14:13] <dr_willis> tprice:  set them to same res is the only way that i know of
[14:13] <iamelite> No one replies?
[14:13] <Kongstad> Sharky: Please relax a little
[14:14] <tprice> dr_willis: one is wide screen and one not
[14:14] <tprice> that kind sucks
[14:14] <tprice> how do people do it with two monitors
[14:14] <dr_willis> compiz needs the proper 3d drivers
[14:14] <Sharky> Kongstad, its hard i cant seem to see it or the windos setting
[14:14] <ssta> iamelite: I dunno if jumping releases for upgrade is supported...it is between LTSes, but I dunno about from 10.04 to 11.10 directly
[14:14] <flowerpot> it isn't.
[14:14] <dr_willis> tprice: its the vertial res that causes a dead area. not width normally
[14:14] <al-tabq> llutz, thanks a lot that worked
[14:15] <Kongstad> Sharky: but there is no need for posting the same Q's over and over again.
[14:15] <dr_willis> tprice: i rarely notice the dead zone
[14:15] <al-tabq> llutz, about the -iname ...does the '\' indicate that it's a subdirectory?
[14:15] <ssta> iamelite: my experience with upgrading ubuntu has never been good anyway...the ubuntu upgrade path isn't all that smooth sometimes...it's often easier to reinstall
[14:15] <llutz> al-tabq: no it just hides(escapes) the asterisk * from the shell
[14:15] <izinucs> ssta: that's been my experience in the last 6 years
[14:16] <tprice> dr_willis: but i keep losing the mouse
[14:16] <jefferson> !karmic
[14:16] <Sharky> i have got the hardware for compiz but i cant find it
[14:16] <tprice> so i would have to drop the res of one of the monitors to fix it?
[14:16] <preludelinux> i just upgraded a customers pc to 11.10 and im gona have to go back to 10.04
[14:16] <al-tabq> llutz oh alright
[14:16] <al-tabq> thanks a lot llutz
[14:16] <llutz> yw
[14:16] <ssta> I guess a 6month releasse cycle doesn't give time to test upgrade path properly
[14:16] <hydester> i'm running 11.10 desktop and was reading about backports and pinning.  according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports it says backports are manual in releases >= 11.04.  i tried apt-get install of a package and it installed, yet i had no /etc/apt/preferences file ( i never deleted it, so i guess this is default?).  any ideas how pinning should behave on 11.10 with no preferences file?
[14:16] <Sharky> i downloaded it and cant find the settings page for the windos
[14:17] <hydester> installing, meaing the backport version
[14:17] <zhownx> hi all that in today... I cant login into ubuntu one client, it said an internet connection is required... I'm running oneiric... any idea?
[14:17] <OerHeks> Sharky, install CCSM
[14:17] <dr_willis> tprice: cant say ive ever had that issus with nvidia and twinview.
[14:17] <Sharky> OerHeks, i have ccsm but its not working
[14:17] <Sharky> its runing
[14:17] <dr_willis> tprice:  if the vert res is the same i dont see how you loose it.
[14:18] <izinucs> ssta: releases between LTS releases are not necessarily stable
[14:18] <tprice> dr_willis: the 2 monitors run at very different resolutions
[14:18] <ssta> izinucs: yeah.  It's a tradeoff.  Fast release cycle means newer stuff, but maybe less stability
[14:18] <tprice> its this issue http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24412/
[14:19] <maxulti> hi i want to know if using a reverse proxy on localhost will help me run programs that do not support internet proxy
[14:19] <rescuemode> is there a channel for linux security??
[14:20] <iamelite> Hey bitches
[14:20] <hydester> maxulti: you may want to try proxychains, although not a reverse proxy
[14:20] <bullgard4> rescuemode: You can ask this question in ##linux.
[14:20] <sw0rdfish> sudo add-apt-repository https://edge.launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa/
[14:20] <sw0rdfish> isn't that the right way to add a repo? ^^
[14:20] <iamelite> Are there any services on this room?
[14:21] <pomad> he
[14:21] <bullgard4> iamelite: Yes.
[14:21] <iamelite> Like maybe if I called someone a dick, would I get locked?
[14:21] <Sharky> !services | iamelite
[14:21] <maxulti> hydester : ok
[14:21] <iamelite> *kicked?
[14:21] <iamelite> Lol
[14:21] <iamelite> Joking
[14:21] <iamelite> !services
[14:22] <flowerpot> What are those automatically generated fractal icon profile pic things I see on forums like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/205/where-can-i-find-documentation-on-the-etc-environment-file-format
[14:22] <Sharky> !kick
[14:22] <ix_> hello, on a laptop with 3 GB of RAM, which is better, Ubuntu 32 bit or 64?
[14:22] <ssta> sw0rdfish: apt-add-repository ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
[14:22] <bullgard4> ix_: It depends.
[14:22] <flowerpot> I see them on stack overflow too
[14:22] <iamelite> !kick whom?
[14:22] <dr_willis> ix_: i say use 64 if the cpu supports it
[14:23] <ssta> sw0rdfish: someone thought it would be "less confusing" to have two URI schemes for PPAs
[14:23] <ix_> dr_willis, does 64 bit Ubuntu use more resources than 32?
[14:23] <dr_willis> ix_:  not that ive notived
[14:23] <ssta> ix_: not appreciably
[14:23] <ssta> at least, not within an isomorphism or so
[14:24] <sw0rdfish> lol ssta
[14:24] <ix_> :) ok, thank you
[14:24] <sw0rdfish> i see.
[14:24] <OerHeks> ix_, 64 bit usses ALL the resources, not more like it is slower.
[14:24] <dr_willis> 64 bit is def faster at many tasks i do
[14:25] <sw0rdfish> i just wanna update my transmission
[14:25] <sunlifter>  yes, it uses 32 more bits from CPU :)
[14:25] <bullgard4> http://code.google.com/p/vt-middleware/: "Gator is a log aggregating server and Web application that allows central configuration and collection of logging for Java applications using the log4j framework." <-- What does »collection of logging« mean?
[14:26] <xios> hi people.. i need some help in repairing my system.. specifically the partition table.. any1 in here with info?
[14:26] <ssta> ix_: in theory, memory accesses above 4GB will be faster on 64bit, and the virtual address space is enormous on 64bit.  IN practice, you may or may not noptice a difference.  Given that almost everything now supports 64bit natively, you may as well go 64bit
[14:26] <dr_willis> collection of logging apps...
[14:26] <bullgard4> !details | xios
[14:27] <xios> sure sure.. will share details..
[14:27] <xios> gimme a min
[14:27] <abrah> how leave irssi network? :&
[14:27] <Gentoo64> abrah: /part
[14:27] <zhownx> I cant sign in ubuntu one... any idea?
[14:27] <ssta> abrah: /disconnect
[14:28] <dr_willis>  /selfdestruct
[14:28] <curiousx> zhownx: remeber the upercase
[14:28] <ignerious> i am having a problem setting java and jedit. Can any one ples help me?
[14:28] <zhownx> curiousx: what u meant by uppercase?
[14:29] <bullgard4> !java | ignerious
[14:29] <Guest48128> www.lepoint.fr
[14:29] <zhownx> curiousx: It's not about the account... the ubuntu one client said, I need internet connection...
[14:29] <LjL> Guest48128: yes?
[14:30] <Guest48128> www.gefi-sa.com
[14:30] <Guest48128> ping
[14:30] <gyanyna> !top
[14:30] <gyanyna> !top
[14:30] <gyanyna> !top
[14:30] <gyanyna> !top
[14:30] <FloodBot1> gyanyna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <LjL> gyanyna: what are you doing?
[14:31] <gyanyna> !top
[14:31] <serveur1> salut !
[14:32] <theadmin> LjL: Sounds like a bot :D
[14:32] <theadmin> !it | serveur1
[14:32] <LjL> that's french theadmin :P
[14:32] <theadmin> LjL: Oh *facepalm*
[14:32] <preludelinux> so whats a good alternative on lower end machines to unity that also integrate well on the system?
[14:33] <theadmin> preludelinux: Try XFCE. Really powerful but hardly takes up any resources
[14:33] <Sicp> hi
[14:33] <Sicp> Metacity is the window manager for Gnome2 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:33] <theadmin> Sicp: Yes, that or Compiz
[14:33] <bullgard4> http://code.google.com/p/vt-middleware/: "Gator is a log aggregating server and Web application that allows central configuration and collection of logging for Java applications using the log4j framework." <-- What does »collection of logging« mean?
[14:34] <preludelinux> something a newbie used to gnome2 can use.
[14:34] <hydester> preludelinux: xfce via install would be xubuntu (http://www.xubuntu.org/)
[14:34] <Sicp> if I have "Normal" selected under Appearance > Visual Effects, does that mean that Compiz took over?
[14:35] <ssta> bullgard4: say you're running 500 J2EE application servers...you don't want to have to go to 500 different machines to look at the logs.  That's a tool that collects the logs and lets you look at them in one place
[14:36] <bullgard4> ssta: Thank you very much for explaining and your help.
[14:37] <ignerious> i am having a problem setting java and jedit. Can any one ples help me?
[14:37] <Sicp> so where do I configure Metacity? I have a Konsole sometimes launching but unfocused
[14:37] <Sicp> I want to fix that
[14:39] <ignerious> i am having a problem setting java and jedit. Can any one ples help me?
[14:41] <Spectrum> ignerious: Maybe. What's the problem?
[14:44] <hoodwinkedfool> ugh
[14:45] <jefferson> !ping
[14:46] <banseljaj> Hi guys, i just ran dist upgrade, using the update notifier and it's stuck and won't go away or cancel. HJow to kill it so i can release the lock and install some other software?
[14:47] <Erealz> ctrl -
[14:47] <Erealz> c
[14:47] <Erealz> or just kill the pid
[14:50] <banseljaj> not responding to ctrl-c. Don't know what it's called (using graphical upgrader) so can't kniow the pid
[14:51] <mongy> pgrep -l update-manager
[14:51] <noah-lol> Haai
[14:51] <greenops> halllo ppl ... have big problem ...help
[14:52] <greenops> i did install the win 8 and a have buggs and err whit the  ubuntu ..
[14:53] <banseljaj> mongy, Erealz  Thanks.
[14:53] <greenops> how do i fully delete the win 8 out my pc any one ..
[14:53] <dr_willis> delete the partitions greenops
[14:53] <greenops> i did
[14:53] <Kongstad> Hi again, Please find the link for Xorg.0.log here http://pastebin.com/z5fKrC9h. Under 'Hardware drivers' I have the following 'This driver is activated but not currently in user'. Ubuntu version 10.04. Nividia GT210. No activation of 3D possible.
[14:54] <greenops> still it block my linux
[14:54] <mongy> greenops, did you restore grub after you removed windows
[14:54] <jdhfr> how to list installed pacvkages??
[14:54] <greenops> it look like the win 8 dump codes in the bios ,,,
[14:54] <LjL> jdhfr: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[14:54] <dr_willis> greenops: i dont think so
[14:54] <greenops> no i format the hall hdd
[14:55] <greenops> are fully
[14:55] <greenops> it still block ..
[14:55] <dr_willis> use a gparted cd. delete all partitions.
[14:55] <XATRIX> hi guys, i've got a problem. I need to create a bootable USB stick with Ubuntu 10.04 + add some extra packets to the system... is there any way to do this ?
[14:55] <dr_willis> id bet you missed applying the changes
[14:55] <mongy> XATRIX, relinux
[14:56] <dr_willis> XATRIX:  you can do a full ins♥all to flash drives also
[14:56] <dr_willis> unstall...
[14:57] <mongy> lol
[14:57] <dr_willis> gotta love phone keybords
[14:57] <mongy> your keyboard full of ♥ ?
[14:58] <greenops> right now it is the first time i could install ubuntu fully ...but as soon i try to update it give me err abd gos black
[14:58] <greenops> and*
[14:58] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[14:58] <XATRIX> it's not simple thou, my target drive is away from me.   and i have to install it to the VirtualBox device, than pack it to the .iso image and extract the iso to the target drive
[14:59] <dr_willis> XATRIX: you could do a fyll install to a 8gb flash. configure it. then dd it to the taeget drive later
[14:59] <mongy> XATRIX, sounds simple enough to me
[15:00] <greenops> dr willis any addys..
[15:00] <XATRIX> dr_willis: my flash in in other country :) i will have no direct access to it actually. :) so i have to do everything remotely
[15:00] <Kongstad> Can this be the problem not being able to activate 3 D http://paste.ubuntu.com/820104/
[15:00] <dr_willis> or use mondo/mindi to make a backup restore disk set.
[15:00] <XATRIX> and it's 4GB
[15:01] <dr_willis> you can do an install to a 4 gb flash. but it may be tight
[15:02] <dr_willis> done it with lubuntu befor
[15:04] <XATRIX> ok
[15:04] <Scopey> ssta: hey dude, everything worked out, thanks for yesterday
[15:05] <Scopey> While trying to format a disk, the computer keeps returning that the device is busy, how do you get around this?
[15:05] <ssta> Scopey: umm, I'm glad (weer you the guy with xfs?)
[15:05] <dr_willis> Scopey:  use a live cd. if repartioning in use disks
[15:06] <Scopey> ssta: yeah that was me haha =P, i'm trying  to format the drive now and its being stubborn
[15:06] <ssta> Scopey: make sure it's not mounted before you format it
[15:06] <me-1> hi...I have installed torcs but it runs too slow
[15:06] <Scopey> ssta: ah ok let me test that
[15:06] <dr_willis> partion/fdisk. then format. :)
[15:07] <AgamemnonZ> Hi all; I have a problem with 11.10. My CRT monitor goes back to a 60Hz refresh rate every time it has automatically turned itself of after 10 mins (as specified in the settings). I then have to invoke 'xrandr' to get my rate back to 85Hz. How can I make this happen automatically?
[15:07] <Scopey> ssta: unable to unmount it, /media/xyz is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[15:08] <ssta> Scopey: sudo umount /media/xyz
[15:08] <me-1> I have installed torcs but it runs too slow . is this has to do anything with open GL..?
[15:08] <dr_willis> umount /dev/sdXX Scopey   perhaps
[15:08] <ssta> Scopey: make sure it's not open anywhetre, andthat there's nowhere you're CDed inside it in a terminal
[15:09] <dr_willis> me-1:  3 d drivers. can be an issue.
[15:09] <me-1> dr_willis,  how do I chcket it..?
[15:09] <Scopey> ssta: that did it
[15:09] <ssta> Scopey: cool.  Good luck :)
[15:10] <Scopey> ssta: thanks again dude, gonna switch over to win7 make sure everythings ok
[15:10] <dr_willis>  me-1  your.vudeo card is what chipset?
[15:10] <gentoofan> Why can't I install multiple packages in parallel on Ubuntu?
[15:11] <me-1> dr_willis,  should I paste output of lspci ..?
[15:11] <dr_willis> !paste
[15:11] <bastidrazor> gentoofan: how are you trying to install them? apt-get?
[15:11] <gentoofan> apt-get is right now installing ZFS on a LiveCD and I decided that I want to install mdadm too. I don't see why I have this lock issue preventing me from doing it.
[15:12] <dr_willis> race conditions can be bad,
[15:12] <bastidrazor> gentoofan: it prevents conflicts.
[15:12] <me-1> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/820124/
[15:12] <gentoofan> What conflicts? There is nothing conflicting between mdadm and zfsutils.
[15:13] <gentoofan> I don't see why there needs to be a giantic lock on the package manager.
[15:13] <dr_willis> and the system knows this how gentoofan
[15:13] <bastidrazor> gentoofan: you can run only one instance of apt-get.
[15:13] <gentoofan> dr_willis: It should be able to work it out. Portage's emerge can do it without a problem.
[15:14] <dr_willis> gentoofan:  cant say that ive nituced that,
[15:14] <dr_willis> but thats how apt works,
[15:15] <banseljaj> gentoofan, portage compiles from sourvces, while apt installs binaries usually. When you lock the directory, it stops any changes from happening between the start and end of install.
[15:15] <ignerious> how to permanantly set enviroment variable in ubuntu
[15:15] <gentoofan> banseljaj: zfsutils is compiled from source with apt-get. :/
[15:16] <ignerious> how to permanantly set enviroment variable in ubuntu
[15:16] <dr_willis> ignerious:  for all users or a sngle.one?
[15:16] <gentoofan> Wel... zfsutils finished installing, so I don't need to wait anymore. It is just annoying.
[15:16] <ignerious> for all user
[15:16] <ignerious> for all user
[15:16] <dr_willis> from source. then how was it using apt.
[15:17] <dr_willis> ignerious:  have some patience and dont msg people if they dint reply instantly
[15:17] <alix_> Hello, i'm going crazy with grub. I try to have a dual boot with win7/ubuntu but when I try to boot on win7 i have "Invalide signature". I tryed boot repair but no success.. here is a report http://paste.ubuntu.com/820114/
[15:18] <alix_> If someone can save my mental health
[15:18] <gentoofan> banseljaj: Also, for the record, Gentoo's portage can install multiple binary packages simultaneously. It is a recent feature.
[15:18] <ignerious> dr_willis: Sorry
[15:18] <dr_willis> ignerious:  in /etc/profile should be some settings
[15:20] <dr_willis> or some ither files in /etc
[15:20] <the_beat> hello
[15:20] <dr_willis> no need to msg me personally ignerious. ...
[15:21] <ignerious> dr_willis: OK
[15:21] <jdhfr> gentoofan: apt/dpkg are very primitive software, so there are going to be restrictions like this
[15:21] <dr_willis> back to work fir me. bbl
[15:21] <ignerious> dr_willis: Ok
[15:22] <banseljaj> gentoofan: I am obviousl not that familiar with gentoo. But That is how apt works. In series. Maybe it can be upgraded to install in paraallel, maybe not, but i'm not a developer
[15:23] <Kongstad> resolved the issue with 'Under 'Hardware drivers' I have the following 'This driver is activated but not currently in user'' by installing Nvidia-common. Can still not activate desktop effects (3D)
[15:25] <kaipreshaw> hello is there a way i can use kde with out downloading kubuntu
[15:25] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[15:26] <Tm_T> kaipreshaw: you can install the kde packages you like in your ubuntu
[15:26] <lan3y> hello, how do i go around setting up vga_switcheroo for an ati/intel hybrid setup?
[15:26] <brotherbrian>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER brotherbrian cslnydwbdobv
[15:26] <Tm_T> brotherbrian: you need a new password now
[15:26] <Tm_T> brotherbrian: also do it on the server window (;
[15:27] <kaipreshaw> Tm_T whats the command for it
[15:27] <LjL> !kde | kaipreshaw
[15:27] <Tm_T> kaipreshaw: depending what parts you want to install, if you want what kubuntu-desktop has, see ubottu
[15:28] <kaipreshaw> Tm_T the desktop
[15:28] <christiantarry> where would we be without apt-get
[15:29] <Tm_T> kaipreshaw: only the desktop? install plasma-desktop
[15:29] <kaipreshaw> wait
[15:29] <kaipreshaw> oh balls
[15:29] <jdhfr> what is a best way to install mandriva/sisyphus packages in ubntu?
[15:29] <LjL> jdhfr: not installing them at all is best.
[15:29] <Tm_T> jdhfr: best way is to not
[15:31] <jdhfr> i wouldn't but it's not my fult debian not packs useful things
[15:31] <kaipreshaw> nope
[15:31] <kaipreshaw> i cant get it
[15:32] <LjL> jdhfr: it's probably better to install from source than risking your luck with a "foreign" package. which program is this?
[15:32] <jdhfr> i can compile rpms in buuntu?
[15:32] <_B00> Afternoon. I'm gettin this error when trying to run minidlna: http://pastebin.com/2LqhaP7J
[15:33] <LjL> jdhfr: rpm's are binaries, they cannot be compiled. i'm saying you should grab the source instead.
[15:33] <jdhfr> rpms are sources or binaries
[15:33] <_B00> ubuntu server 11.10 by the way
[15:33] <christiantarry> member:jdhfr: rpm's are binaries,
[15:34] <kaipreshaw> Tm_T http://paste.ubuntu.com/820145/
[15:34] <ssta> jdhfr: the tools to build rpms exist in ubuntu...I'm not going to guarantee the results will be useful though.  Better to use an rpm based system to build them on
[15:34] <LjL> jdhfr: that'd be an srpm, but anyway, don't compile that. grab the .tar.gz source or whatever.
[15:35] <Tm_T> kaipreshaw: some other app is holding the package system as a hostage, do you have any other related app running then?
[15:35] <kaipreshaw> Tm_T nope
[15:36] <banseljaj> jdhfr, there is http://www.howtoforge.com/converting_rpm_to_deb_with_alien. But it is NOT recommended.
[15:36] <jdhfr> nice
[15:36] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[15:36] <ssta> jdhfr: wat is it you want that's not already available anyway?
[15:36] <christiantarry> anyone got any ideas to pass the time
[15:36] <Tm_T> !aptlock | kaipreshaw if you really are sure, try this
[15:36] <christiantarry> i might learn java while im at it
[15:37] <christiantarry> being linux its probably more useful learning C++?
[15:38] <ssta> christiantarry: depends what you wsant to do with it...
[15:38] <kaipreshaw> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process Tm_T
[15:39] <christiantarry> trying to open a few job windows here and there
[15:39] <banseljaj> jdhfr, which package are you trying to use?
[15:39] <gentoofan> How do I store the output of a command to a string in the dash shell?
[15:39] <jdhfr> it's just a small library, i already converted and installed it
[15:39] <banseljaj> gentoofan, [command | less > file
[15:40] <banseljaj> jdhfr, make sure to test it thouroughly. Kudos, anyways
[15:40] <kaipreshaw> Tm_T its the same still locked
[15:40] <LjL> banseljaj: "less > file"?
[15:41] <gentoofan> banseljaj: I wanted something more like string="$(echo 1 && echo 2)", but it seems that what was going wrong wasn't that, but instead, element access. :/
[15:41] <banseljaj> LjL, That's what i use. It works. doens't it?
[15:41] <ssta> banseljaj: umm, if it works it's an accident :)
[15:42] <banseljaj> :D
[15:42] <overdub> less is for viewing output one page at a time, not for redirecting output to a variable
[15:42] <LjL> banseljaj: it's silly. you can just do "command > file"
[15:42] <banseljaj> not variable, a file.
[15:42] <ssta> either do: "command > file" or "command | tee file"
[15:42]  * banseljaj facepalms himself
[15:42] <banseljaj> yes of course. Sorry. :)
[15:43] <ssta> the tee version if you want to see the output as well as saving it to a file
[15:43] <christiantarry> JAVA or C++? which one to learn
[15:43]  * banseljaj shuts up and goes to sit in a corner
[15:43] <overdub> or variable=$(command) for output to var, or command > file for output to file
[15:43] <ssta> christiantarry: depends what for
[15:43] <christiantarry> Im thinking JAVA because of ANDROID/WEBAPPS/JAVA VM's
[15:43] <christiantarry> well as a good starting language
[15:44] <passt> hello, are there any drivers for the verizon usb551l?
[15:44] <banseljaj> christiantarry, try a high level language first. Ruby, Python etc.
[15:44] <ssta> christiantarry: they're both good at different things...
[15:44] <dnjaramba> which os is better suited for a dev machine...ubuntu or fedora...?
[15:44] <christiantarry> by different things what do you mean? im trying to seperate the pros and cons of both and get some guidance
[15:44] <christiantarry> i know basic programming already....i thought ruby and python were extinct
[15:44] <banseljaj> christiantarry, if you are interested in web apps, ruby on rails will be your best bet
[15:44] <Tm_T> dnjaramba: wrong place to ask, try #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[15:45] <ssta> christiantarry: there's a pedagogical school that says that being exposed to pointers and memory management early a la C/C++ is better long term.  The oppositge opinion also has its adherents.
[15:45] <Tm_T> christiantarry: same to you (:
[15:45] <dnjaramba> ok thanks
[15:45] <banseljaj> christiantarry, they aren't. Some really good projects use them.
[15:45] <ssta> christiantarry: personally I don't think it matters.  Pick one and work on it.  It doesn't actually matter which as long as you're learning
[15:45] <christiantarry> yeah thats what im thinking
[15:46] <christiantarry> I might stick with Java.
[15:46] <LjL> gentoofan: uhm $() should work according to the manual, weird
[15:46] <ssta> christiantarry: python/ruby are most definitely NOT dead.  They're both also excellent languages for learning with.
[15:46] <Desert> _Rat
[15:46] <christiantarry> Atleast then it'll be easier for me to fall back on nodejs/javascript technologies that are pretty common these days
[15:47] <christiantarry> And I can always slide over to the Android dev side of things
[15:47] <LjL> gentoofan: and actually it works for me, TEST="$(echo 1 && echo 2)       echo $TEST    1 2
[15:47] <christiantarry> Anything important I can always change language aslong as I've got the OO concept sdownpacked
[15:47] <LjL> gentoofan: add missing quote
[15:48] <ssta> christiantarry: umm, java and javascript don't have much more than the name in common...they're totally different
[15:48] <christiantarry> i always thought the syntax was similiar
[15:48] <christiantarry> alot similar then other languages anyway
[15:48] <ssta> christiantarry: only in the sense that they both use { } C-type syntax.
[15:48] <christiantarry> lol
[15:48] <oCean> christiantarry: please keep this channel for technical support issues. All other discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:49] <tucemiux> After some random minutes I am no longer able to access websites - I do have an IP and access to the internet but I cant access websites?  This happened after I installed updates
[15:49] <gentoofan> LjL: I am right now writing my own initramfs and busybox uses the ash shell as far as I can tell. I switched from bash to dash to try to ensure compatibility.
[15:50] <em> Suppose I install two distros on Linux on the same machine in a dual boot. Say Distro A and Distro B.  How can I later uninstall distro B and leave only distro A with access to the full system again?
[15:51] <_B00> !patience
[15:51] <auronandace> em: delete and resize partitions?
[15:52] <gentoofan> em: How did you install them in the first place? Also, if you install them on ZFS, this becomes easy.
[15:52] <tucemiux> em, with ubuntu nowadays just delete the partition of the 2nd Os, upgrade grub, done
[15:53] <gentoofan> Hypothetically speaking, if I format my drive with ZFS and install ubuntu in rpool/ROOT/ubuntu and gentoo in rpool/ROOT/gentoo, I could just change the bootfs property and then delete the dataset of the one I don't like.
[15:54] <gentoofan> It really depends on how you do it.
[15:54] <tucemiux> what is ZFS?
[15:54] <banseljaj> How do i find out the fastest server close to me. Or rather the SECOND fastest? Because whenever i choose "choose best server" in software sources, the server it chooses breaks my package management.
[15:55] <jdhfr> how to distinguish grub partition from grub2 one?
[15:55] <gentoofan> tucemiux: ZFS is a next generation filesystem that integrates logical volume management and RAID. dajhorn is working on Ubuntu support for it.
[15:55] <auronandace> tucemiux: a filesystem now owned by oracle (designed for solaris)
[15:55] <gentoofan> I'm the Gentoo maintainer for it. dajhorn and I hang out in #zfsonlinux (and apparently here too).
[15:55] <ssta> I don't think you can (yet) boot off it directly
[15:55] <gentoofan> ssta: You can.
[15:56] <gentoofan> See dajhorn's documentation: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[15:56] <ssta> gentoofan: ooh, since when?  My backup server uses a huge zpool
[15:56] <ntenisOT> hello I would like to ask about wubuntu server
[15:56] <ssta> gentoofan: awesome, bookmarked that, thanks
[15:56] <auronandace> gentoofan: native? i thought it was via fuse for licensing issues?
[15:57] <gentoofan> ssta: I understand that dajhorn has even more improvements in the pipeline.
[15:57] <immortal> аУ
[15:57] <immortal> i
[15:57] <immortal> есть русские
[15:57] <auronandace> !ru | Guest5138
[15:57] <gentoofan> auronandace: FUSE is not needed. The licensing issues prevent it from being in the kernel-tree. As long as it is an out-of-tree kernel module, there isn't a problem.
[15:58] <auronandace> gentoofan: awesome, never knew that
[15:58] <ssta> it being fuse is fine anyway for my needs.  It's an awesome fs
[15:58] <ntenisOT> I installed a clean ubuntu server and I found out that if I run nmap from my machine (ubuntu 11.10) it shows the correct ports are open + some other.. The other ports are the following http://pastebin.com/K7xaehDH Can someone explain me why these ports are open?
[15:58] <gentoofan> ssta: It isn't FUSE.
[15:58] <Jackneill> anyone can help me?
[15:59] <auronandace> Jackneill: don't know yet, i haven't seen your problem
[15:59] <gentoofan> I am sure that I have highlighted dajhorn several times now. He would be a better person to discuss this on Ubuntu, but I assume he is AFK. I am using the Ubuntu LiveCD to bootstrap my Gentoo development efforts, so I am familiar with ZFS on Ubuntu. It is easier than spinning my own Gentoo LiveCD with the kernel modules for now.
[15:59] <dr_willis> Jackneill:  with?
[15:59] <Jackneill> i cant login, i have ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE and lightdm, after the login-screen i got a black screen, after again the login-screen
[15:59] <ssta> ah, okay.  /boot still can't be on zfs.  Still, it's getting there nicely
[15:59] <banseljaj> !ur | banseljaj
[15:59] <dajhorn> gentoofan: Pong.  I'm here.
[16:00] <Jackneill> auronandace thats my problem.
[16:00] <ssta> maybe we should take this discussion to -offtopic
[16:00] <gentoofan> dajhorn: Hi. Would you like to tell people about Ubuntu on ZFS? :)
[16:00] <xsl> ssta, you prefer zfs to btrfs
[16:00] <dajhorn> genewitch: *shrug*  It works.  I'm dogfooding it.
[16:00] <gentoofan> ssta: You actually can boot off ZFS right now, but there are some limitations... we are working on it.
[16:00] <dajhorn> genewitch: Sorry.  Bad autocomplete.
[16:00] <ssta> xsl: I've not tried btrfs, zfs works for me.  I really think we should move the discussion to -offtopic though
[16:00] <m4k> Is possible to install gnome applications in xfce
[16:01] <Jackneill> anyone?
[16:01] <auronandace> m4k: yes
[16:01] <gentoofan> ssta: Right now, the current way to do it is to switch to GRUB 0.97. Install it and then get the Illumos GRUB binaries to replace the Ubuntu ones. It will work as long as you aren't booting off raidz/raidz2/raidz3.
[16:01] <san_> Jackneill,  edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[16:01] <Jackneill> san_ what?
[16:01] <hmei7> help me
[16:02] <wolfric> is there anyway to go back to 3.0.0-15.25 once you have upgraded to 3.0.0-15.26?
[16:02] <wolfric> for testing purposes
[16:02] <gentoofan> ssta: You will want to replace the stage1_5/stage2 installed on your disk with the Illumos counterpart. You also need to put some of the GRUB stuff in the location that Illumos/Solaris/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana uses. It works though.
[16:02] <Jackneill> san: what to edit?
[16:02] <rciovati> hi guys, using tasksel i messed up my pc. now after grub it is stucked at this: http://i42.tinypic.com/33m7x3l.jpg i alredy tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but nothing is changed ;(
[16:02] <auronandace> wolfric: choose it from the grub boot menu
[16:02] <Jackneill> san_: what to edit? *
[16:02] <banseljaj> !ur | banseljaj
[16:02] <kaipreshaw> !help | hmei7
[16:02] <LukeNukem> um i have a jar file which i want to run
[16:02] <gentoofan> ssta: dajhorn is also working on using GRUB2 to boot off ZFS. I believe he has it working.
[16:02] <Max> irc://irc.darksin.net/atena
[16:02] <LukeNukem> i have java run time 6 installed..but how do i run it
[16:03] <ssta> gentoofan: I don't think it's the best idea to have so much non-distro stuff in production servers.  This really should go to #ubuntu-offtopic though
[16:03] <gentoofan> dajhorn: That happens to me often. :/
[16:03] <gentoofan> ssta: Check out dajhorn's PPA. He has a GRUB2 that you can use.
[16:03] <dajhorn> gentoofan: Yes, I have Ubuntu booting from a RAIDZ3 pool via GRUB2.
[16:04] <chakrit> Just put a fresh install of 11.10 on an EEE PC s101 via netboot. Everything is working fine 'cept the network manager is showing "device not ready" for wireless (but wireless apparently, is working). Help?
[16:04] <Jackneill> anyone can help me?
[16:04] <gentoofan> ssta: I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:04] <Jackneill> i cant login, i have ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE and lightdm, after the login-screen i got a black screen, after again the login-screen
[16:04] <wolfric> auronandace: it isn't installed, the -25,-26 is the patch or version, i just have generic
[16:05] <thiebaude> chakrit, that happens to me on my desktop, no problems on the laptop
[16:05] <wolfric> auronandace: linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic is what it comes in, it doesn't seem to specify lower. it's basically just reverting to a vulnerable kernel
[16:05] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[16:05] <auronandace> wolfric: oh i see, sorry not sure if you can
[16:05] <chakrit> thiebaude, have u fixed it? how?
[16:06] <thiebaude> sure have not, and it's annoying, but im online
[16:06] <chakrit> dang... thx anyway :(
[16:06] <zig> what up
[16:07] <Jackneill> anyone can help me?
[16:07] <Jackneill> i cant login, i have ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE and lightdm, after the login-screen i got a black screen, after again the login-screen
[16:07] <kaipreshaw> !offtopic | zig
[16:09]  * thiebaude is happy with the dash=launcher on the bottom :)
[16:09] <minkben> how do I boot from usb stick on a zenbook? I got into bios but I don't know how to proceed
[16:10] <chakrit> "device not ready" in network manager but internet is working. any ideas?
[16:10] <LukeNukem> How to get my internal ip on ubuntu
[16:10] <LukeNukem> ??
[16:10] <jpds> LukeNukem: Type in a terminal: ip addr show
[16:10] <pako1983> xdcc list
[16:10] <thiebaude> chakrit, wish i had some ideas for you
[16:10] <pako1983> list!
[16:10] <chakrit> LukeNukem, ifconfig?
[16:10] <LukeNukem> okay
[16:10] <dr_willis> no wareZ here pako1983
[16:11] <chakrit> thiebaude yeah :(
[16:12] <banseljaj> How do i find out the fastest server close to me. Or rather the SECOND fastest? Because whenever i choose "choose best server" in software sources, the server it chooses breaks my package management.
[16:12] <minkben> chakrit, try rebooting. did you disable and enable wifi via the hardware switch?
[16:13] <bandiz57> /home/gigi/Scaricati/buduscript/install.sh
[16:13] <ironhalik> is there a way to set a shortcut to the unity workspace switcher?
[16:14] <ironhalik> oh, its super+s, now I need to find it in the shortcuts tool
[16:14] <robin0800> ironhalik: you mean instead of meta and s
[16:15] <minkben> How do I boot from usb?
[16:15] <bigtom21485> how do i install something from a *.deb file I downloaded?
[16:15] <ironhalik> robin0800: yeah, meta/super/winkey :>
[16:16] <ironhalik> ok, it seems its not in the keyboard menu
[16:16] <chakrit> bigtom21485, just double-click the file or run dpkg -i
[16:17] <f3bruary> who knows a working youtube downloader ?
[16:18] <jtiig1220> hey does anyone kno how to run netflix on ubuntu w/o having to make a virtual machine??
[16:18] <thiebaude> jtiig1220, i dont think there is
[16:19] <dr_willis> jtiig1220: you dont at this time
[16:19] <thiebaude> i have been searching around alot, the only reason i dual boot
[16:19] <gigi_> !list
[16:19] <Memphis> hey, does anyone know how to force a custom resolution in oneiric; my mythbuntu box detects my 1080P TV as 720P, and I don't have any utilities since I am using the built-in graphics drivers. Previously I have done similar stuff with "xorg.conf", but can't seem to figure it out in oneiric.
[16:19] <dr_willis> jtiig1220:  supposed to be doable sime time this year
[16:20] <gigi_>  /msg ubottu !alis
[16:21] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[16:21] <jtiig1220> thnx guys
[16:22] <idefix> how come cheese does and camorama does not find my webcam?
[16:23] <idefix> these are similar programs, aren't they?
[16:23] <Jackneill> can you help me?
[16:24] <banseljaj> Jackneill, please state your problem
[16:24] <Jackneill> i have ubuntu 11.10 with XFCE. i got the login screen after a black screen and again the login screen. when go to console mode and try to startx, i got error: module nv does not exist. maybe nvidia?
[16:24] <biohazard135> does anyone know why ssh is really slow? i have a vps with ubuntu and i'm connecting from my local system (also ubuntu) and after typing the password, ssh will not connect. Nothing shows up.
[16:24] <Jackneill> and an error message: Could not update ~/.ICEAuthority file
[16:25] <bigtom21485> why does google music not see my subfolders?
[16:25] <biohazard135> It just takes forever. It's a bit better with -x but still takes at-least 5 minutes to login.
[16:25] <bigtom21485> correction why does it only see 200 of my 3600 mp3's?
[16:26] <banseljaj> Jackneill, did you encrypt your home directory?
[16:26] <plotino_incaos> hi everybody
[16:27] <plotino_incaos> i dont get to access to my NAS from my ubuntu-studio
[16:27] <plotino_incaos> NAS usus samba as sharing service
[16:27] <Jackneill> banseljaj:
[16:27] <Jackneill> maybe
[16:27] <Viggo> are u sure all mp3s really are mp3? might be some .wma or .ogg
[16:27] <dr_willis> Jackneill:  you may want to check askubuntu.com about that .iceauthority issue
[16:27] <Jackneill> i dont remember
[16:27] <Jackneill> :D
[16:27] <FloodBot1> Jackneill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:27] <Jackneill> dr_willis: ok.
[16:27] <bigtom21485> viggo: i encoded them all myself
[16:28] <minkben> how do I boot from a bootable usb? any f# key that always works during bootup?
[16:28] <minkben> I made a bootable ubuntu flash drive with the Startup Disk Creator
[16:28] <dr_willis> minkben: totally depends on the specific pc and bios
[16:28] <minkben> zenbook laptop
[16:29] <minkben> when I go into bios and try to change the boot order the usb drive isnt even listed
[16:29] <minkben> the only option there is the ssd
[16:29] <banseljaj> Jackneill, I had the similar problem once, only i got stuck on my wallpaper. I had to reinstall
[16:29] <shah`> unetbootin
[16:29] <dr_willis> means nithing to me. checks its manuals perhaps
[16:29] <SystemParadox> hi. I need to recompile an existing package with 3 lines commented out (bug). Apart from that I want to keep everything exactly the same. Does ubuntu have any system that stores build scripts for all its official packages? Like abs in archlinux? Thank
[16:29] <dr_willis> del. f8. esc.. seen them all used befor
[16:30] <minkben> shah`, can I make the system boot into ubuntu with unetbootin?
[16:31] <Viggo> big tom, sounds like you need to check the gmc settings
[16:31] <orated> Hello! I got sdd3 as / with sdd6 as swap & sdd5 as home under sdd2 extended. I have sdd1 as free partition which I would like to merge with sdd3 root. Should I directly use Live mode to merge sdd3 and sdd1 partitions or do I need to do anything before it?
[16:32] <orated> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820210/
[16:32] <rebe> I have a problem with one partition, it looks like some programs cannot access it (like transmission or dropbox) I have to browse to them, than it's ok. That partition is NTFS maybe this is a problem ?
[16:32] <bahaa2008> hi guys
[16:33] <bahaa2008> i need to create custom resolution
[16:33] <Guest60519> ola alguien de adra
[16:34] <bahaa2008> i followed the tutorial here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[16:34] <bahaa2008> but it didn't work
[16:35] <bahaa2008> i got this error
[16:35] <bahaa2008> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[16:35] <kutio> do you know where can I find a precompiled  debug .a library of a specific package of ubuntu for example ?
[16:36] <thiebaude> !es
[16:37] <AlanBell> kutio: lots of packages have a -dbg package
[16:37] <kutio> ok I found!
[16:37] <biohazard135> so, I guess nobody is going to help with ssh being slow? i also tried -C along with -x, traceroute / ping are great, latency is low, curl is fast, reverse dns is fast
[16:37] <Guest89070> hi guys! i have ubuntu 10.04, and i want ubuntu studio! How i can do this?
[16:37] <biohazard135> i can't figure out what is wrong, ssh is just so slow, everything else is fine.
[16:38] <AlanBell> biohazard135: can the thing you are connecting to resolve it's own hostname and other stuff?
[16:38] <biohazard135> yeah, it's a vps
[16:38] <komp> no hej :D
[16:38] <biohazard135> i never had ssh issues before, i recently switched to ubuntu from windows 7, i used putty before
[16:39] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, slow login or slow in general?
[16:39] <biohazard135> slow in general, login takes around 30 seconds to appear
[16:39] <biohazard135> after typing the password theres nothing
[16:39] <biohazard135> i've had a window open for almost 10 minutes and nothing is showing up
[16:39] <SystemParadox> but once you eventually get the prompt, is it normal?
[16:39] <biohazard135> i did once and no it was seriously laggy
[16:39] <a-saint> hello guys is zsh recommended on ubuntu
[16:40] <biohazard135> i type a character and it shows up a few seconds later
[16:40] <AlanBell> biohazard135: is it a bad VPS, like on an overloaded host and constantly swapping out to disk?
[16:40] <SystemParadox> that's some sort of connection problem, unless once of the machines is totally dead
[16:40] <hombre> hei vaan
[16:41] <hombre> hei vaan
[16:41] <SystemParadox> I often get slow logins due to slow DNS or silly authentication options, but once I get a prompt it's always fine
[16:41] <biohazard135> i don't know it never had issues before, phpsysinfo shows everything is fine (low memory, low load averages)
[16:41] <bahaa2008> anyone can help me
[16:41] <hombre> hei vaan
[16:41] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, phpsysinfo? Is this a shared webhost by any chance?
[16:42] <Myrtti> !fi | hombre
[16:42] <hombre> mitä kuuluu?
[16:42] <biohazard135> not webhost, it's from http://thrustvps.com
[16:42] <AlanBell> biohazard135: the guest might not know it is slow
[16:42] <biohazard135> i installed lamp & pma, psi ect... myself
[16:42] <hombre> hello
[16:43] <hombre> como esta
[16:43] <Myrtti> hombre: hello, do you have an Ubuntu support question or problem?
[16:44] <AlanBell> biohazard135: I would suggest contacting them for support. Generally Ubuntu connects fine to other ubuntu machines over ssh, I can't see it being a problem at the client end. Probably DNS resolution, or overloaded host swapping your VPS out to disk
[16:44] <Netlynx> 86
[16:45] <mongy> biohazard135, sounds like a bad vps.  I had one like that..  I'm with urpad.net now.  very fast
[16:45] <biohazard135> hmm, i've had the vps for a few months,
[16:46] <biohazard135> it's never had any issues
[16:46] <biohazard135> i'll keep trying other options before contacting them
[16:46] <AlanBell> biohazard135: sure, they might have added more VPSes to the host you are on and overdone it a bit
[16:47] <biohazard135> maybe
[16:48] <biohazard135> oh god...
[16:48] <dies_irae> ei
[16:48] <biohazard135> i just tested with my windows box (putty) it's fast
[16:48] <dies_irae> is middle click URL broken too in ubuntu?? it is in kubuntu.
[16:48] <biohazard135> connected in a few seconds, commands not lagging
[16:48] <dies_irae> and is really pissing me the bleep off.
[16:49] <grungekid> Hey guys, Very quick question. I am using an ATI card with ubuntu 11.10 with proprietary drivers. The performance on unity is terrible(laggy window dragging etc) so I have had to switch to unity 2d. Is this a known issue and should I just assume that the ati drivers are shoddy and stick with unity 2d? Cheers for your help :)
[16:49] <acovrig> I can't boot, I get "udevd[.....]: specified group '<a list of users>' unknown"; this is a fres kubuntu install to an 80GB HDD
[16:49] <biohazard135> so, something is wrong with the ssh client on ubuntu, not the server.
[16:49] <thiebaude> grungekid, same here
[16:50] <newbie|1> Hey everyone :)
[16:50] <dies_irae> newbie|1: wurup
[16:50] <newbie|1> xD I'm (as you probably guessed :P) new to ubuntu xD
[16:50] <newbie|1> So
[16:50] <newbie|1> Not much really :D
[16:51] <newbie|1> How about you?
[16:51] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, well that narrows it down a bit. Where does it get when you run it with -vvv?
[16:52] <SystemParadox> *get stock
[16:52] <SystemParadox> *get stuck
[16:52] <biohazard135> i'll try it, i've only run with -xC so far.
[16:53] <thiebaude> grungekid, my only problem is the dragging of windows, but otherwise its ok on my laptopn, but my desktop with nvidia is awesome
[16:53] <thiebaude> laptop
[16:54] <biohazard135> hmm, i see a lot of debug info
[16:54] <wildwind> What can I do if Ubuntu (or maybe my DVD drive?) cannot detect one particular DVD-R disc? This disc is recognized OK on another machine with Win 7.
[16:54] <grungekid> Yeah it was fine on my other nvidia laptop. Think I'm just going have to leave it on unity 2d. I find some higher end websites using heavy flash run slow on unity 2d too. Plus the window buttons don't highlight when an app is windowed which is rather annoying
[16:55] <grungekid> sorry the websites run slowly on unity 3d
[16:55] <biohazard135> debug2: channel 0: output open -> closed
[16:55] <biohazard135> it's hanging on that
[16:55] <thiebaude> grungekid, my laptop was a birthday present otherwise i would go with intel or nvidia,imho ati is terrible
[16:56] <dr_willis> wildwind:  seen similer issue once with a disk that had not been finalized. with my dvr.
[16:56] <bullgard4> wildwind: Try k3b and analyze the messages output of k3b.
[16:56] <biohazard135> yeah, nothing is happening now after that debug2 line
[16:56] <orated> Hello! Can I directly merge sdd3 and sdd1 partitions using Live mode or do I need to do anything before it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/820210/
[16:56] <grungekid> Yeah I'm beginning to regret it but this laptop was cheap so it was kind of an impulse purchase. I will just have to stick it out I think. Can't believe a large company like ATI have such poor linux support
[16:57] <thiebaude> agree 100%
[16:57] <wildwind> bullgard4: does k3b require kde?
[16:57] <bullgard4> wildwind: I am using k3b in a GNOME Shell 3.2.1 environment.
[16:58] <grungekid> The open source drivers runs fantastic but the power usage is too high and it gives me like half the battery life of the proprietary :(
[16:58] <bullgard4> wildwind: k3b requires a lot of KDE packages though.
[16:58] <dr_willis> k3b uses several qt libs and may need some kde parts as well
[16:58] <thiebaude> yep grungekid , and it runs hotter
[16:58] <dr_willis> but k3b us worth it.
[16:59] <thiebaude> dr_willis, k3b is awesome
[16:59] <thiebaude> :)
[16:59] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: so yeah, it's completely frozen on "debug2: channel 0: output open -> closed" i can copy the rest to pastebin if you want.
[16:59] <thiebaude> i use it instead of brasero
[17:00] <nixmaniack> is it OK to disable rpcnind on boot?
[17:00] <Phong_> hi
[17:00] <nixmaniack> *rpcbind
[17:00] <wildwind> yes aptitude shows it requires about 62M of kde stuff. I'm afraid I can't afford to download it now on my 3G connection )
[17:00] <mongy> wildwind, gnomebaker is nice lighter alternative to brasero.  works ok for me/
[17:00] <grungekid> quit
[17:01] <shaiang> hi y'all
[17:01] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: after some delay it now says "debug2: channel 0: request window-change confirm 0"
[17:01] <wildwind> mongy: brasero doesn't see this disc. will any other burning app can do better?
[17:02] <mongy> wildwind, you'll have to try others to find out
[17:02] <biohazard135> oh wait, that's just my side.
[17:02] <wolff> hi, today i clean installed my machine, and now half the time when i try to install something, it gives me a broken packages error or a 404 error
[17:03] <Ririshi> Hello. I tried to install the Ubuntu 11.10 desktop i386 version, but my proccesor is an AMD64. Should I download that one and install it? (the i386 version didn't install, it froze)
[17:03] <shaiang> ?
[17:04] <An_dep> hi to all, pleace tell me how fix message then grub2 loaling ubuntu 11.10 "sparse file not allowed" press any key..
[17:04] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: the 32bit version should have worked, but if you have a x64 processor then yea, i would go 64 bit ubuntu
[17:04] <udinnet> Hello, I have a big networking problem
[17:04] <wildwind> mongy: i'm afraid if kernel can't see it, noone can
[17:04] <paulus68> what is the best way to secure ssh connections?
[17:04] <Nach0z> paulus68: RSA keys.
[17:04] <randybc87> Hello all, i just wondering if someone could help me to find a good spyware/xploit
[17:04] <biohazard135> paulu68: ssh is already secure
[17:05] <udinnet> I'm using a gigabit network
[17:05] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: I downloaded the i386 version, where does i386 stand for, then? Do you think the AMD64 version will work?
[17:05] <geoffmcc> paulus68: setup keys to connect and change ssh port to non standard 22. also something like fail2ban
[17:05] <Nach0z> paulus68: biohazard135 is right, SSH is already secure, but if you want extra security just get yourself a large RSA key.
[17:05] <Nach0z> Ririshi: i386 is 32-bit, AMD64 is 64-bit.
[17:05] <flowerpot> i386 is 32-bit; AMD64 is 64-bit; you can probably use the former on the latter architecture, but you can't use the latter on the former architecture
[17:06] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: if it freezing it could be a bad download or burn. the i386 is the 32bit. like i said either should work.
[17:06] <cloudgeek> A English Dictonary for Ubuntu !!
[17:06] <paulus68> Nach0z: ok however I was trying this and managed to lock myself out with the keys lucky me I had a backup that saved me
[17:06] <Nach0z> paulus68: then ya need to be more careful with yer keys, bud :P
[17:06] <Nach0z> I've done that a few times
[17:07] <biohazard135> Did SystemParadox leave?
[17:07] <wolff> hi, today i clean installed my machine, and now half the time when i try to install something, it gives me a broken packages error or a 404 error.
[17:08] <Ririshi> Nach0z:geoffmcc: As I said it froze, but several times at different places. Everytime it freezes, though, it ends with a black screen with white output and ending with: EIP: blablabla CR2: 00000000xxxxxx (x stands for a letter or number here)
[17:08] <biohazard135> wolff: was it an up to date version?
[17:08] <biohazard135> also, try looking in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:08] <paulus68> Nach0z: well I created a nice key but I don'5t know where I went wrong and I just looking for a good howto that will allow to setup the keys and also able to use putty with these keys
[17:08] <Nach0z> Ririshi: that means your download probably went bad. Re-download the ISO file, and check the MD5 sums when you're done.
[17:08] <wolff> biohazard135 yea i downloaded it fresh this morning
[17:08] <wolff> illcheck that out
[17:09] <Nach0z> paulus68: the putty keys setting is in connection -> SSH -> auth
[17:09] <Ririshi> Nach0z: i checked the MD5 before burning on there, too. It said it was correct.
[17:09] <kah_> i'm following this.. http://warmwaffles.posterous.com/43361189 I get to the point where i type rvm create project and i get http://www.screencast.com/t/v5eeIxsk
[17:09] <geoffmcc> paulus68: this is what i used first time i tried it. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[17:09] <Nach0z> paulus68: as for setting up your keys, I forgot what the command for that was, but I just used the first tutorial Google gave me
[17:09] <urlin2u> wolff, you using the software center for on installs as well?
[17:10] <Nach0z> Ririshi: might be a problem with your CD itself then, scratches or the like. can you boot from the installer CD?
[17:10] <nivyaj> is there a program on linux that can use my .pst files from outlook?
[17:10] <wolff> urlin2u i try on both the software center and from the terminal, and get the same errors
[17:10] <wolff> biohazard135 what am i spoed to be looking for in sources.list?
[17:10] <Ririshi> Nach0z: yes i can boot, but it freezes there, too.. I clicked system settings once. after that, it froze with the same black screen.
[17:10] <Nach0z> nivyaj: thunderbird can read them when you run them through "Pst Import" I believe
[17:11] <urlin2u> wolff, have you run a suso apt-get upfate && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal yet or run the update manager?
[17:11] <Nach0z> Ririshi: then yeah it sounds like your disk is damaged
[17:11] <biohazard135> wolff: well are they all commented out? where it says "deb " or "deb-src " if theres a # in front, the repository will be disabled.
[17:11] <paulus68> Nach0z: I know but the putty uses ppk and ubuntu not
[17:11] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[17:11] <nivyaj> Nach0z: there's that way, and with evolution mail
[17:11] <urlin2u> wolff, sorry it is sudo.
[17:11] <Nach0z> paulus68: the ppk keys are just a name, they're the exact same thing.
[17:11] <nivyaj> Nach0z: i don't know which is more "stable
[17:11] <Ririshi> Nach0z: oh.. lol.. I just burned and tried it -,- xd
[17:11] <ranjan> hi all, does anybody have any info about an IPA Client for Ubuntu?
[17:11] <Nach0z> nivyaj: not a clue bud. sorry.
[17:11] <geoffmcc> paulus68: if you go to putty website there is a converter there to use
[17:12] <nivyaj> Nach0z: do you use evolution at all?
[17:12] <urlin2u> wolff, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  is the correct command sorry.
[17:12] <Ririshi> Nach0z: can i check if my cd is correct with a tool?
[17:12] <paulus68> thanks guys
[17:12] <Nach0z> Ririshi: I don't know of one, someone else here might though.
[17:12] <paulus68> got to go
[17:12] <bullgard4> ranjan: IPA - International Phonetic Association?
[17:12] <Nach0z> nivyaj: nope, I don't
[17:12] <biohazard135> :/ it looks like SystemParadox left, so can anyone else help with ssh being slow?
[17:12] <geoffmcc> paulus68: if memory servers puttygen will convert the key and pageant will store the key for you
[17:12] <wildwind> Ririshi: boot from it and select check cd for errors
[17:13] <kah_> hey, I'm working on installing rubyonrails in a virtualbox using ubuntu ... I'm following this http://warmwaffles.posterous.com/43361189 and get to the rvm gemset create project ... and this is what i get .. Please Help. http://www.screencast.com/t/v5eeIxsk
[17:13] <Nach0z> biohazard135: that's realy just a networking issue. means your down/up speed off of your server or your home connection needs work.
[17:13] <biohazard135> Nach0z: it's not, I tried in putty (windows) and the connection is very fast.
[17:13] <Ririshi> wildwind: how? if I boot, it starts the setup automaticaly i think.. Lemme try.
[17:13] <ranjan> bullgard4, Identity Policy Audit
[17:13] <biohazard135> Nach0z: something is wrong with my ubuntu client.
[17:14] <ranjan> bullgard4, IPA
[17:14] <Ririshi> wildwind: I will try, be back in 5 minutes.
[17:14] <wildwind> Ririshi: it gives you a few seconds to choose
[17:14] <acovrig> I can't boot, I get "udevd[.....]: specified group '<a list of users>' unknown"; this is a fresh kubuntu install to an 80GB HDD
[17:14] <Nach0z> biohazard135: dunno then bud, sorry
[17:14] <biohazard135> I'll try checking google, the verbose output has some debug info
[17:14] <wolff> urlin2u yea i tried everything from update to -f install
[17:14] <Nach0z> kah_: Try running those rvm commands using sudo. looks like you don't have permission to create the "project" directory, so you'll need to run the create and use as root, or you need to fix your file permissions in that directory
[17:15] <urlin2u> wolff, can you give us a clue on the apps that have a 404 you may need to adjust the sources.list to open a repo.
[17:16] <biohazard135> maybe he could upload sources.list?
[17:16] <kah_> Nach0z: there was a comment by the OP on the same thing saying that I shouldn't need to use sudo... so if i want to fix the file permissions in the directory how could i go about doing that?
[17:16] <ranjan> from where can i get mozldap package for ubuntu?
[17:17] <wolff> urlin2u synaptic, one of the gstream packages, and i think the ubuntu restricted extras package
[17:17] <geoffmcc> biohazard135: when its slow are you using local ip or internet address. also, is it on standard port 22. can you verify your not getting slammed with robots trying to brute force you?
[17:17] <urlin2u> wolff, this command will confirm the release as well so we know where we are at post it if you can.  lsb_release -a  and paste bin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:18] <urlin2u> !pastebin | wolff
[17:18] <Nach0z> kah_: you need to go to the directory where it's trying to create the folder, and chown that directory to yourself.
[17:18] <biohazard135> geoffmcc: using the ip address of the server (vps), it's on 22 and i doubt theres any robots brute forcing, i can check with putty if you want as it's very fast.
[17:19] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, sorry I'm in and out. Can you pastebin the full stack of ssh -vvv -x, with a clear mark where it gets stuck
[17:19] <geoffmcc> biohazard135: if it on port 22 chances are someone from china or russa is trying to brute force you.. see /var/log/auth
[17:19] <biohazard135> systemparadox: your back! yeah, i'll put it on pastebin.
[17:19] <Ririshi> wildwind: Im on my ipod now, it just started Ubuntu.
[17:19] <Nach0z> biohazard135: I'd suggest moving your sshd port to something weird. keeps people from trying to brute-force
[17:19] <geoffmcc> biohazard135: if your going to stay on 22 i would recomend fail2ban.
[17:20] <wolff> urlin2u http://paste.ubuntu.com/820272/
[17:20] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, you might also want to double-check that those two machines are using the same routing (see what kind of output you get from traceroute on each)
[17:20] <Nach0z> be right back yall, gonna go make me a mango smoothie.
[17:20] <biohazard135> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820274/
[17:20] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, although, unless you've done something crazy I find that unlikely, since it sounds like they're using the same router
[17:20] <biohazard135> the very last line, it hangs forever.
[17:21] <kah_> Nach0z: sorry, what does chown mean?
[17:21] <pangolin> chown = change owner
[17:21] <biohazard135> yeah, the two computers in my house, my gaming/main pc (windows) and my laptop (ubuntu) both are on the same network (behind nat) so the same IP.
[17:21] <acovrig> kah_: CHange OwNer
[17:21] <kah_> ah, ok
[17:22] <Nach0z> kah_: it's a command. "chown <user> <directory> -R" will set all subdirectories in <directory> to be owned by <user>
[17:22] <Ririshi> Nach0z: I started from CD and selected Install Ubuntu. It freezes at the next screen now..
[17:22] <gh0zt> kah_: lets you change the woner and group.  but be careful with it.
[17:22] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, aha! I just did ssh -x -vvv on mine and the last line I get before the shell prompt is: "debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0"
[17:22] <kah_> is there a way to copy and paste the <directory> part?
[17:23] <Nach0z> Ririshi: I.... don't know how to help from there bud. might be your computer itself is messed up :/
[17:23] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, yours then complains that channel 0: write failed
[17:23] <Ririshi> Nach0z: WHUT?!
[17:23] <Nach0z> kah_: directory should be whatever directory you're in. try ./ for <directory>
[17:23] <gh0zt> you can just give it the full path to what you want to chown
[17:23] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, if you can find a way to get vvv output from putty that might also be useful
[17:23] <geoffmcc> biohazard135: what confuses me is that you say in windows using putty it works good but outside of windows it dont. You issue has got to be some form of networking problem
[17:23] <Nach0z> Ririshi: dunno bro. I have no idea. sorry
[17:23] <Ririshi> Nach0z: okay.. Too bad
[17:24] <biohazard135> SystemParafox: I'm not sure how to do that, I'll see if putty has logs.
[17:24] <kah_> Nach0z: I'm assuming I need to use sudo chown .... right?
[17:24] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[17:24] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, are you able to setup a temporary guest account on the server?
[17:24] <kah_> Nach0z: otherwise I just get operation not permitted
[17:24] <acovrig> I can't boot, I get "udevd[.....]: specified group '<a list of users>' unknown"; this is a fresh kubuntu install to an 80GB HDD and I don't want to try to reinstall again (this is the 3rd try)
[17:24] <biohazard135> yeah
[17:24] <wolff> urlin2u you still there?
[17:24] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, if you can setup a guest account, try it with both machines and see if it's still the same, then I'll try it from here and see what I get.
[17:25] <Nach0z> kah_: yeah probably. but before you do that
[17:25] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: ok, sounds good
[17:25] <Nach0z> kah_: gimme the output of "pwd"
[17:25] <geoffmcc> SystemParadox: Biohazard135: I concur, i came to same conlusion, but i am shy so i didnt ask for login, lol
[17:25] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, at the moment it looks like there's something broken on the server, some setting that only the linux client is activating
[17:25] <urlin2u> wolff, run the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras again and pastebin the results as well after opening the sources list with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of this line deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)]/ oneiric main restricted
[17:25] <Nach0z> cuz if you're in a directory you don't need to be changing, you might wanna go somewhere else XD
[17:26] <biohazard135> oh wait
[17:26] <wildwind> Ririshi: so have you checked CD?
[17:26] <urlin2u> wolff, you have the install cd as active.
[17:26] <biohazard135> SYstemParadox: I just tried typing on putty, it's very slow too. Only the login is fast.
[17:26] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: So maybe the server has issues.
[17:26] <Ririshi> wildwind: I had no choice.. It just started Ubuntu..
[17:26] <kah_> Nach0z: home/chris
[17:26] <SystemParadox> sounds like it
[17:26] <urlin2u> wolff, so put tha # in run a update then the restricted cammaond again.
[17:27] <geoffmcc> biohazard135: when you say its slow do you mean its slow the whole time, or are you saying it takes forever for the connection to start and give you logon prompt
[17:27] <wolff> okie
[17:27] <Nach0z> kah_: hm. so you are in your home directory. that's weird. you DEFINITELY need to "sudo chown ./ -R" then
[17:27] <SystemParadox> geoffmc, it's slow after login as well apparently, like a high-latency connection :S
[17:28] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, check dmesg, /var/log, top on the server
[17:28] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: I can assure you the latency is ... acceptable. Pinging the server is ~100ms.
[17:28] <Ririshi> wildwind: It crashes randomly.. Now I clicked the checkbox for installing updates during installation and it crashed.. With a black screen
[17:28] <bderrly> is us.archive.ubuntu.com slow for anyone else?
[17:28] <Ririshi> wildwind: the cursor still moves tho..
[17:28] <geoffmcc> SystemParadox: ok, cause i have had the problem before where it takes a minute to activate the connection and resolved it like this -- http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/slow-ssh // maybe not your issue though
[17:28] <Nach0z> kah_: just realized I failed 2 command that one. "sudo chown chris ./ -R"
[17:29] <kah_> Nach0z: Ok so I did the sudo chown chris /usr/ruby-rvm/gems -R which allowed me to create project... but now if I want to do rvm gemset use project i get permission denied... wouldn't setting auth for the gem folder set auth for the sub folders with in that?
[17:29] <SystemParadox> geoffmcc, yeah I get that *a lot*, but it's a bit harder to find here
[17:29] <banseljaj> My browsers have suddenly stopped working. While i can use IRC perfectly
[17:29] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, I'm happy to give it a try from here if you want
[17:29] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: what is dmesg? also, it feels a bit faster now.
[17:29] <Seryth> How do I set something to auto-mount? It doesn't seem like my external HDD is mounting on boot.
[17:29] <Nach0z> kah_: hm.... SHOULD be but I honestly don't know enough about ruby to give you a definite answer. Try doing "sudo rvm gemset use project"
[17:29] <SystemParadox> biohazard135, you just type 'dmesg' and it dumps the kernel log
[17:30] <Ririshi> wildwind: Please heellppp!
[17:30] <rebe> how do I change partitions for automount ?
[17:31] <wildwind> Ririshi: you can check md5 again like you did before
[17:31] <kah_> Nach0z: I get "Gemsets can not be used with non rvm controlled rubies (currently).
[17:31] <geoffmcc> SystemParadox: sorry, that was meant for biohazard135
[17:31] <biohazard135> SystemParadox: is it ok if i private message you the login details?
[17:31] <Ririshi> wildwind: md5 of what? The CD I use now? The first and only CD i made?
[17:31] <wolff> urlin2u ok that worked for the 404's, but then i still have the broken packages error for synaptic
[17:31] <Nach0z> ..... kah_, I have NO idea how to fix that one. you might track down the ruby support channel and ask there.
[17:31] <uRock> what is the command to open the gconf editor?
[17:31] <banseljaj> kah_ Indeed. For you to use gemsets IN rvm, you can not use it with those outside its control.
[17:32] <ironhalik> wow, my soundcard automagically stopped working, and now on one jack out, it gives a distorted sound, and on the other one theres no sound at all
[17:32] <bastidrazor> uRock: gconf-editor
[17:32]  * uRock rolls eyes at self
[17:32] <wolff> urlin2u actually no im still getting 404s on synaptic
[17:32] <tyler> Hi all. Just installed 11.10, used 10 before. I used VirtualBox for Virtualisation in Ubuntu 10. Any suggestions for 11.10, better use Vmware or Virtualbox, or another solution ? What fits good on 11 ?
[17:32] <uRock> thanks bastidrazor
[17:33] <kah_> banseljaj: I don't quite follow, could you suggest something i could try?
[17:33] <Phrogz> I have a TrimSlice running 11.04, and it's not "seeing" a WLAN dongle when I plug it into the USB.
[17:33] <wildwind> Ririshi: you said you checked md5 of image before burninig. you can check it on burned cd
[17:33] <bastidrazor> uRock: ugh, in 11.10 it may not me.
[17:33] <Phrogz> How do I start to debug to see if it even sees the USB device itself?
[17:33] <Ririshi> wildwind: last line is: EIP: [<c102f974>] complete+0x14/0x60 SS:ESP 0068::f1209e24 just for info
[17:33] <Ririshi> wildwind: I will check it on the cd.
[17:33] <uRock> bastidrazor, it is not installed in 11.10, do you know if it is safe to install and use or if I should use something else?
[17:34] <wildwind> what's line?
[17:34] <Ririshi> wildwind: last line of that black screen.
[17:34] <bastidrazor> uRock: its not needed in 11.10 since the menu's are different and the drop down is no longer
[17:35] <urlin2u> wolff, you change the sources list by adding the #?
[17:35] <uRock> bastidrazor, I was going to use it to make sound adjustments. I'll see if I can find another way, thanks
[17:35] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[17:36] <wolff> urlin2u yep
[17:36] <Ririshi> wildwind: I think it's a hardware Issue.. On the black screen, everytime it crashes, it shows my computer type
[17:36] <urlin2u> wolff, you can change the repo in synaptic try another mirror
[17:36] <blackstar> hello everyone, I need some help with Ubuntu 11.10,  whenever I use the recovery mode from the Grub menu, I do not get Menu select that I got in previous version like Lucid, how can I re-enable this menu back ?
[17:37] <wildwind> Ririshi: maybe ram issue. did you have problems with ram before?
[17:37] <geoffmcc> uRock: check out sound settings and make sure everything is setup right in there (i.e - the right profile)
[17:37] <wolff> urlin2u ..and how do i go about that?
[17:38] <bullgard4> ranjan: Please read the Synaptic description of the DEB program packages »libnss-sss« and »python-sss«.
[17:38] <Ririshi> wildwind: with other things? No.. I got 2GB RAM btw. I never had Linux before btw
[17:39] <urlin2u> wolff, lol my synaptic is crashing at the moment it is in the top drop down software sources is name of it you can get it from the dash menu the top button on the unity desktop left pannel.
[17:39] <LukeNukem> what is an epic music player for ubuntu that will replace banshee and put a tiny widget under the master volume control
[17:39] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: if you have burned it multiple times and still is failing, i would suggest attempt a usb install. i think you may have problems with your drive
[17:39] <uRock> geoffmcc, thanks, I am looking for the ability to shut off sounds such as the screenshot sound
[17:39] <uRock> which aren't list in sound settings
[17:40] <urlin2u> wolff, that was two access points for softwrae sources.
[17:40] <geoffmcc> uRock: sorry, maybe i missed hilight you. i thought i read sound suddenly stoped working and creates hiss in audio jack
[17:40] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: okay.
[17:40] <urlin2u> software*
[17:40] <uRock> geoffmcc, nope, not me 8)
[17:41] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick // the method i use from windows is the Linux Live Usb Creator not unetbootin, but feel free to try whatever
[17:41] <blackstar> anyone know how to re-enable the recovery mode menu option on 11.10 ?
[17:42] <Seryth> black: During boot hold SHIFT. You will get to the GRUB menu, where you can choose recovery mode. I think.
[17:42] <rebe> how do I change which partitions automount on system start ?
[17:43] <urlin2u> wolff, you have two areas needing the # in the sources.list as I look closer to you cat command. deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)]/ oneiric main restricted
[17:43] <geoffmcc> uRock: found a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11377595 // will prob have to sudo apt-get install dconf-tools first
[17:43] <uRock> geoffmcc, cool, thanks
[17:44] <urlin2u> wolff, both that have a (cd) there are together at the top.
[17:44] <geoffmcc> uRock: you can disable event-sounds at org.gnome.desktop.interface.sound in dconf-editor.
[17:44] <uRock> 8)
[17:44] <wolff> urlin2u yea i assumed that at the start, so i commented both of em
[17:44] <lafouine56> e
[17:45] <wolff> urlin2u wait so i still dont get what you said about mirrors before
[17:45] <bullgard4> nebe: In the file fstab
[17:45] <shah`> sudo apt-fast install wolff
[17:45] <kah_> I type the command rvm gemset use project --- and get "Gemsets can not be used with non rvm controlled rubies (currently)." Anyone?
[17:45] <Raymond_> what is a mipsel.tar.bz2
[17:46] <wolff> shah` nope didnt work
[17:46] <bullgard4> Raymond_: The name of a comprised archive file.
[17:46] <wolff> shah` sudo: apt-fast: command not found
[17:46] <urlin2u> wolff, cool so open software sources from the dash search menu.... top button in the left panel left side in the first tab is download dropdown it has a fastest sever check but I use the main ubuntu ione your choice here.
[17:47] <shah`> wolff: lol
[17:47] <urlin2u> wolff, search with dash software sources, then in its first tab is the download dropdown.
[17:48] <Ririshi> wildwind:geoffmcc: I am booting from USB now.
[17:48] <shah`> wolff: http://melayubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/07/menggantikan-apt-get-dengan-apt-fast.html
[17:48] <spacebarbarian> having some trouble with an apache2 mpm worker conf, i got my php site to work in ssl but when i visit non ssl pages they arent served by php (browser is just starting a download?)
[17:48] <urlin2u> wolfyou may know this but you can only have one install app open at a time like synaptic or the software center for all to work.
[17:49] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: Ubuntu is loading now.
[17:49] <Phrogz> I have a WiFi USB dongle; how should I go about finding out if it's working, and then configuring it to actually find and use WiFi networks?
[17:49] <Phrogz> Is there something I need to do in order for Ubuntu to go find the right drivers for it?
[17:49] <Phrogz> Or to detect if the USB device is being recognized?
[17:50] <urlin2u> shah`, lets get them actually working eh.
[17:50] <Phrogz> (Sorry, I've only ever configured existing built-in Ethernet ports in Ubuntu before; I've never had 3rd party hardware that actually needed configuring and/or drivers.)
[17:50] <urlin2u> shah`, first
[17:51] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: the mouse cursor is very strange.
[17:51] <shah`> yeah
[17:52] <shah`> http://img.rc.my/X/virtual.png my ubuntu machine ;]
[17:52] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: some kind of building error? Fuuu my pc is bad..
[17:52] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: froze again.
[17:52] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: did u use LiLi or unetbootin to create
[17:52] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: lili
[17:53] <urlin2u> shah`, nice you like that apple theme huh. :)
[17:53] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: i think you may need lubuntu
[17:53] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: what does make it better?
[17:54] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: its targeted for pc/laptop running low-spec hardwdare
[17:54] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: okay
[17:54] <HashNuke> join #debian
[17:54] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: if freezing in USB and CD w/ verification of mdsum then it just dont like something about your setup... is it an old pc?
[17:55] <bullgard4> HashNuke: Why?
[17:55] <HashNuke> bullgard4: sorry. missed the slash in the command :)
[17:55] <bullgard4> :-(
[17:55] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: ehm about 3 yrs? AMD64 2.0GHz, ATI Radeon 9600. Win7 runs fine.
[17:56] <HashNuke> guess you already know my other secret channel :)
[17:56] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: 2GB RAM
[17:56] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: hmm. then should be fine.
[17:57] <wolff> shah` i tried with apt-fast but it still gives me a 404
[17:57] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: im about to run out the door, but one last thing
[17:57] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: okay
[17:57] <urlin2u> wolff, you able to change the mirror?
[17:58] <lenovo1> Hi people
[17:58] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: when you boot and you get the first little splash screen with a keyboard looking icon press any key on keyboard. this will take you to a menu. try choosing install from there.
[17:58] <aubreyja> hi, I manually upgraded mediawiki to get 1.18 on ubuntu 10.04. How can I tell apt not to try upgrading or removing this package. I'd like apt to think it's not installed from the package (since it's not, anymore)
[17:58] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: in the Lubuntu install?
[17:59] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: no just the regular install. you can try lubuntu, but the computer sounds fine to run ubuntu
[17:59] <urlin2u> aubreyja, you can pin it in synaptic, if you have that installed
[17:59] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: okay i will try
[17:59] <aubreyja> urlin2u: it's a server, no gui
[17:59] <urlin2u> aubreyja, as far as changing it removing not sure I don't know the package.
[18:00] <wolfric> anyone know if it's possible to get an old build of a kernel? for exmaple, if i do apt-cache search linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic, i get just that, but i want to get linux-image-3.0.0-15-25 not 26
[18:00] <proZaC> Hey guys, I need some help, I'm a linux noob and my webcam doesn't work properly with skype..
[18:00] <proZaC> It starts and turns off in 1 second...
[18:00] <urlin2u> aubreyja, ah no clue there sorry.
[18:00] <systemclient> Say I have a global configuration file (makefile with some rules). Where would I put it? /etc/programname/patterns.makefile ?
[18:00] <proZaC> macbook 2,1 ubuntu 11.10
[18:00] <geoffmcc> Ririshi: maybe take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 too.. sorry cant stick around, good luck
[18:00] <Ririshi> geoffmcc: thank you
[18:00] <proZaC> In Cheese studio, It shows a black screen but if I lower the resolution and then increase it, it shows perfectly...
[18:00] <trism> wolfric: the only change in 26 is to disable the writable /proc/pid/mem
[18:00] <proZaC> Anybody got any idea? I'm a noob here so please forgive me if I'm not 'doing it right'
[18:01] <urlin2u> wolff, I wonder if your getting a missing key as well if you get a chance run the update command in the terminal as well and pastebin all the text.
[18:01] <wolfric> trism: i know
[18:01] <lenovo1> I just want to know if its possible to run a financial exchange with linux only no windows
[18:02] <panza> seraaaa
[18:02] <biohazard135> ok everyone, me and systemparadox did some debugging. wait for this shocker: the server is fine, the client is fine. i can connect to his server and he can connect to mine.
[18:02] <Ririshi> What did geoffmcc mean with first splash screen?
[18:02] <biohazard135[AFK> brb
[18:02] <panza> list
[18:03] <urlin2u> lenovo1, sort of off topic, but you say no windows do you mean MS windows or no desktop?
[18:03] <wolff> urlin2u damn i finally did it it was so easy i cant believe i didnt try it at the start
[18:03] <wolff> urlin2u i just had to change the mirror
[18:03] <urlin2u> wolff, was it the mirror?
[18:03] <urlin2u> wolff, the cd open was a problem as well.
[18:03] <wolff> urlin2u yea that kinda got in the way too
[18:04] <urlin2u> wolff, cool glad it's working. :D
[18:04] <wolff> aight thank you for your patience and help
[18:04] <wolff> im gonna go sleep
[18:04] <wolff> :)
[18:04] <urlin2u> wolff, nite.
[18:05] <Ririshi> What is "the first splash screen"?
[18:05] <wolfric> is there a more technical ubuntu channel?
[18:05] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] What is the intended way to terminate radio stream recording via Streamrecorder?
[18:06] <spacebarbarian> im having trouble getting apache to serve php (using mpm worker) only on www subdomains (works fien otherwise) anyone know what can cause this ?
[18:06] <trism> wolfric: the older builds are usually still on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.0.0-15.25, click one of the architecture builds on the right side
[18:06] <excelsior> is there a package for teachers to make test question banks and create tests?
[18:06] <urlin2u> wolfric, not that I know of, but there is ##linux
[18:06] <lenovo1> no ms ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[18:07] <wolfric> trism: thanks sure i'll check that out then
[18:07] <urlin2u> lenovo1, what are you running, and use the tab complete for nics so we know who your addressing. :D
[18:08] <lenovo1> im running ubuntu 11.04
[18:08] <wolfric> btw, is it not a bit odd that the urgency is =low on 3.0.0-15.26 when it fixes a privilege escalation
[18:08] <bullgard4> [solved]
[18:09] <urlin2u> !tab > lenovo1
[18:10] <lenovo1> ok im new to this thanks
[18:10] <Ririshi> what does this mean? "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000003c"? (i am trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 but it freezes here)
[18:12] <biohazard135> I'm back
[18:12] <lenovo1> So is it possible to get a financial exchange running linux only
[18:12] <Ririshi> Wb
[18:12] <biohazard135> Ok, so ssh doesn't work on ubuntu, but does on windows. That's just for my server, it works for other people's.
[18:13] <biohazard135> Both systems are ubuntu 11.10
[18:13] <spacebarbarian> im having trouble getting apache to serve php (using mpm worker) only on www subdomains (works fien otherwise) anyone know what can cause this ?
[18:13] <biohazard135> spacebarbarian: look in the config for the subdomain, if it doesn't include the php module.
[18:13] <milamber> biohazard135: can you be more specific? is the client not working or a server?
[18:14] <yotom> what r u guys talking about ?
[18:14] <yeats> Ririshi: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/174485
[18:14] <DJones> !ubuntu | yotom
[18:14] <urlin2u> lenovo1, cool just wanted to make sure your helped. :D
[18:14] <biohazard135> milamber: server works fine. the client (windows/putty) works fine, client (ubuntu) times out. hangs on "debug2: channel 0: output open -> closed"
[18:15] <spacebarbarian> biohazard135: umm its just configured as an alias, www.sitename.com and sitename.com
[18:15] <biohazard135> milamber: both ubuntu systems are 11.10, my network is fine, latency is fine, everything is IP based, no dns is used, everything is default config
[18:15] <biohazard135> milamber: and my client (ubuntu) is a fresh install.
[18:15] <proZaC> Hey guys, I appreciate you guys reading this... I have the following problem: When I start a videocall with skype, the webcam turns on for a second and then it turns off (the green-light indicator flashes for a brief moment)... Also in the video device options of skype, the screen shows BLACK when I press the 'TEST' button, but if I doubleclick (make it fullscreen) it works. I have used two
[18:15] <proZaC> commands 'sudo ift-extract -a /lib/firmware/AppleUSBVideoSupport' and sudo '/usr/local/lib/udev/ift-load -f /lib/firmware/isight.fw'... Any ideas on how to fix it so that I can use Skype video calls properly? Thank you for your time. The system is MacBook 2,1 on ubuntu 11.10.
[18:16] <An_On_Nimeni> sal
[18:17] <biohazard135> milamber: oh, almost forgot, the dump from using -vvv is here (http://paste.ubuntu.com/820274/)
[18:17] <milamber> biohazard135: looking now
[18:17] <urlin2u> So anybody getting any synaptic open and close immediately, everything is in order I'm a exsperienced user, and updates-upgrades and installs from the softwrae center work fine
[18:17] <bioterror> urlin2u, open synaptic from terminal
[18:17] <bioterror> urlin2u, should prompt messages
[18:18] <ryannathans> what would clonezilla have different in the kernel compared with ubuntu, i'm using the 11.10 ubuntu clonezilla after all..
[18:18] <ryannathans> ubuntu kernel panics and clonezilla is fine
[18:18] <ryannathans> (my raid card)
[18:18] <bioterror> clonezilla was debian based
[18:18] <bioterror> if I remember right
[18:19] <ryannathans> bioterror: i'm using the ubuntu alturnate clonezilla that's 11.10
[18:19] <biohazard135> milamber: it hangs on the last line. i wonder if this is firewall based or something, it works fine on windows (putty)
[18:19] <urlin2u> bioterror, still crashes or closes very strange I have purged it and reloaded it as well, it is not in the 11.10 release though.
[18:19] <ryannathans> it can ready write to my raid card fine, ubuntu just kernel panic on boot due to raid
[18:19] <bioterror> urlin2u, did it say anything in terminal?
[18:19] <ryannathans> adaptec 3805
[18:20] <urlin2u> bioterror, gksudo synaptic
[18:20] <urlin2u>   what():  vector::_M_range_check instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[18:23] <urlin2u> bioterror, tried it with just sudo as well
[18:24] <milamber> biohazard135: did you try a different client on the ubuntu install?
[18:24] <An_On_Nimeni> sal
[18:24] <biohazard135> milamber: the only other one is the file explorer which can view/edit files.
[18:24] <bioterror> urlin2u, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/807771/comments/7
[18:25] <biohazard135> milamber: any ideas of other ssh clients i can try out? it's odd that it works in putty (windows ssh client)
[18:25] <milamber> !info putty maverick
[18:25] <urlin2u> biohazard135, found this it worked http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11343209&postcount=10
[18:26] <urlin2u> bioterror, your link says them same strange bug, thanks. :D
[18:26] <biohazard135> milamber: didn't know putty was also for ubuntu, i'll try it
[18:27] <cousteau> ok, the TTY background turned purple again and I forgot how to remove it.  How do I put it in black again?
[18:27] <bioterror> cousteau, you mean gnome-terminal?
[18:27] <bioterror> edit the profile
[18:28] <cousteau> bioterror, no, I mean tty.  If I meant gnome-terminal I would have said gnome-terminal, not tty.
[18:28] <cousteau> the Ctrl-Alt-F1 one
[18:28] <bioterror> yes, console
[18:28] <cousteau> the TTY
[18:28] <ironhalik> wow, alsa is so evil...
[18:29] <cousteau> the ones with "tty1" to "tty6" on it
[18:29] <biohazard135> milamber: wow... putty works fine
[18:32] <biohazard135> milamber: ok so putty is able to connect on ubuntu, what could be preventing the native client from working
[18:32] <applepie> I need help
[18:32] <applepie> Hello
[18:32] <applepie> I need help please
[18:33] <bioterror> !ask | applepie
[18:33] <urlin2u> applepie, give us the problem and if any one knows the will answer. :D
[18:33] <urlin2u> 'they*
[18:33] <bioterror> urlin2u, did you get synaptic fixed?
[18:33] <milamber> biohazard135: openssh is tied to several other services unfortunately. if you would file a bug report that would be good.
[18:33] <applepie> If i boot up ubuntu, at loginscreen i see a guy dancing and it says Rickroll'd in the middle of screen.
[18:34] <applepie> how do i remove that?
[18:34] <bioterror> how did you get it?
[18:34] <applepie> I can't login.. there is no login
[18:34] <applepie> just that guy dancing
[18:34] <urlin2u> bioterror, yeah I found another link with the same fix you posted thanks for the help I had not thought to google the error DOH. <D
[18:34] <applepie> and with a girl
[18:34] <applepie> and a song
[18:34] <FloodBot1> applepie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <urlin2u> bioterror, lost a little geek cred there I'm not worthy. :---(
[18:35] <applepie> If i boot up ubuntu 11.10, instead of login screen there appears a guy singing and dancing with a girl in a church, i can say he's gay, and in the middle of the screen there's a "Rickroll'd" black text, and i cant login.
[18:36] <pangolin> applepie: when did this start happening?
[18:36] <applepie> It's nasty, how do i remove it?
[18:36] <applepie> this morning.
[18:36] <applepie> i restarted my pc and there it goes.
[18:37] <bioterror> applepie, you had a friend visint you last night?-)
[18:37] <pangolin> applepie: you must have installed something
[18:37] <Whisky> Trying to make my webcam drivers. And it gives this error: make[1]: *** [all] Error 2. Any idea what to do?
[18:37] <applepie> so how do i get rid of it?
[18:37] <applepie> or atleast how do i login?
[18:37] <pangolin> applepie: personally I would do a clean install
[18:37] <Gentoo64> rickrollback the changes you made
[18:38] <applepie> pangolin: how do i backup without loging in?
[18:38] <pangolin> applepie: hit ctrl-alt-F1 and login
[18:38] <urlin2u> Gentoo64, now, now, now :)
[18:38] <bioterror> is that a lightdm theme
[18:39] <applepie> tested, doesn't work, still the same guy dancing..
[18:39] <applepie> what's this anyway?
[18:39] <bioterror> or is it automatically logged in as a another user and starting something
[18:39] <applepie> some kind of a virus?
[18:39] <bioterror> applepie, did you have a friend visiting you?
[18:39] <bioterror> applepie, or have you installed something instead last time?
[18:40] <applepie> bioterror: just from the ubuntu shop.
[18:40] <tjf> He's probably never going to give you up...
[18:40] <Gentoo64> why are you taking this huy seriously
[18:40] <applepie> and from trusted sourceforge..
[18:40] <pangolin> applepie: what did you install?
[18:40] <applepie> IDE's.
[18:40] <applepie> I installed mono today
[18:40] <applepie> that's all
[18:40] <Whisky> Trying to make my webcam drivers. And it gives this error: make[1]: *** [all] Error 2. Any idea what to do?
[18:40] <applepie> THIS IS THE GUY on my screen! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[18:40] <xKazeSenoue> Can anybody help me please?
[18:41] <applepie> it's annoying
[18:41] <applepie> it's just looping
[18:41] <applepie> and you can't do anything
[18:41] <FloodBot1> applepie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <xKazeSenoue> I just installed UBuntu 11.10 on my Notebook Presario F700
[18:41] <xKazeSenoue> But it's screen is broken, so Im using an external screen
[18:41] <xKazeSenoue> But Ubuntu does not recognize it.
[18:41] <pangolin> applepie: can you get a screenshot and pastebin it?
[18:41] <xKazeSenoue> When I was running it through the CD, it was fine
[18:41] <applepie> I can't even mute my computer.
[18:42] <xKazeSenoue> But now that I installed, it just ignores it.
[18:42] <applepie> pangolin: how do i screenshot a simple screen with a looping video?
[18:42] <pangolin> applepie: with a camera
[18:42] <DJones> applepie: Best way is probably with a camera on a mobile phone
[18:43] <applepie> i'll try my best.. what's the relevance anyway? It's just 16:9 video set to loop.
[18:43] <pangolin> applepie: the relevance is i am not sure I believe what you are saying
[18:43] <pangolin> I need some proof
[18:44] <cousteau> So how do I replace the (sort of ugly) purple background in Ctrl-Alt-F1 with the classic black one?
[18:44] <applepie> pangolin: nor do i belive there's a gay dancing on my computer and singing a song i can't mute.
[18:45] <applepie> pangolin: but okay, i'm gonna ss
[18:45] <pangolin> applepie: can we leave out sexual preferences  of singers.
[18:45] <pangolin> has nothing to do with anything
[18:45] <applepie> pangolin: the way he dances is just gross..
[18:45] <xKazeSenoue> =/
[18:45] <xKazeSenoue> = /
[18:45] <applepie> and the singing.. ohh
[18:46] <xKazeSenoue> So, nobody knows how to fix this?
[18:50] <opticlove> i mounted a .mdf file into my "media" folder not thinking. now the files can't be removed
[18:50] <opticlove> here is the command: sudo mount -o loop=/dev/loop0 unl-iwdc1.mdf /media/
[18:51] <Chotaz> i have sound on youtube but vlc does not output any sound, i know the files have proper audio format and that i have the right codecs
[18:51] <Chotaz> what could it be?
[18:52] <pangolin> is sound in vlc muted?
[18:52] <Chotaz> pangolin: no sir
[18:52] <patrunjel> Hi guys. I am interested in old-school computing, and I want to try and live one day without a GUI. But I don't know any music player that works without a gui, and I also don't have any idea on how can I read my pdf-s without a graphical environment... So any recommendations for that? :)
[18:53] <pangolin> vlc-nox for music
[18:53] <patrunjel> thanks
[18:53] <Tm_T> patrunjel: for music, there's many kind of players, like vlc-nox, mp3blaster, just plain mplayer ...
[18:54] <patrunjel> Tm_T, thanks. Do you know anything about the pdf part? Is it even possible?
[18:54] <Tm_T> pdf2txt and then less?
[18:55] <mk> hot can I change the spacing on thumbnails in nautilus?
[18:55] <mk> how*
[18:55] <patrunjel> would it cause any trouble because of the images in the pdfs?
[18:57] <Chotaz> pangolin: any tips?
[18:57] <urlin2u> patrunjel, for more info on running headless the ubuntu forums might be a good source as well, start a thread you will get a ton of posts I bet.
[18:58] <DonJuan> Is this the proper place to get help for setting up MTP?
[18:58] <YellowGTO> Hey guys, I have a Nforce MCP73 and its stuck at 100mbps
[18:58] <Chotaz> i have sound on youtube but vlc does not output any sound, i know the files have proper audio format and that i have the right codecs
[18:58] <YellowGTO> I've tried to force it with ethtools
[18:58] <mk> if you're interested in old-school computing, rather than a cli, you might consider living without music etc.
[18:58] <patrunjel> urlin2u, it's called running headless? haha, that's funny ^.^ Thanks for the tip
[18:58] <YellowGTO> I've replaced the cable and tried a direct crossover cable
[18:58] <em> why is gksudo needed?
[18:59] <YellowGTO> It wont go above 100mbps ;-(
[18:59] <DJones> !gksudo | em
[18:59] <pangolin> Chotaz: none, sorry. hmm maybe check with alsamixer see if anything there is muted but all i can think of is that the issue is with vlc and not hardware/settings related in the OS
[18:59] <lnau> m
[19:00] <urlin2u> patrunjel, I think so,,,:D
[19:00] <DonJuan> Chotaz: Have you tried opening the sound settings will playing something in VLC to verify that it's showing up there?
[19:00] <DonJuan> Chotaz: While*
[19:01] <Chotaz> DonJuan: in the applications tab? yes it it
[19:01] <Chotaz> and the sound is not muted
[19:02] <ArseneRei> I'm having wireless issues. Everytime I upgrade ubuntu versions I have to do some convoluted remove my wireless connector and reinstall and the reconfigure some things. But no matter I what I try with this version I can't get wireless back. Does anyone know how a solution to making wireless "stick"?
[19:02] <_cb> while there are things I like about Unity there are things I find very annoying but maybe I don't know the work arounds. For example having all applications have their menu at the top. I have to consistently move things out of the way to get to the menu I want
[19:03] <_cb> ArseneRei unity?
[19:03] <syddraf> After enabling Xinerama, when I log back in all of my monitors display black. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
[19:03] <ArseneRei> _cb: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[19:04] <_cb> ArseneRei are you using Unity?
[19:04] <ArseneRei> _cb: Not regularly, but I've switched to it to try to get it working there.
[19:05] <_cb> ok Unity has a gui network configuration on the top right corner. Did you use that to configure your wireless?
[19:05] <_cb> ArseneRei  Unity has a gui network configuration on the top right corner. Did you use that to configure your wireless?
[19:06] <mk> does ubuntu have a way to configure my file manager? the thumbnails are too spaced out
[19:06] <ArseneRei> _cb: I had before and it didn't work for me, and I read to try wicd, so I switched to that, but also to no effect.
[19:07] <_cb> ArseneRei I was trying to set it manually but gui worked perfect for me. Gui will also tell you the status.
[19:08] <ArseneRei> _cb: Okay I will give it a shot again. Thanks.
[19:08] <_cb> From what I have read you want to do one (manually) or the other (gui) but not both.
[19:08] <blognewb> do you guys know of any cool libreoffice base templates around i can use in ubuntu?
[19:08] <em> Is there a nice way to use apt to put .debs of stuff you like on to a USB so that you can easily restore them on a fresh install even if you have no network connection?
[19:09] <em> Do the .debs themselves contain the binaries or are they just pointers to some server that fetches them?
[19:10] <urlin2u> blognewb, there is a #libreoffice channel as well if needed.
[19:10] <em> blognewb: and if it is 10 times more active than #openoffice you may even get a response before Thanksgiving.
[19:11] <kerloi> Hi all. I want to start a java programm but each time I type 'java myArchive.jar' the error Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError occure.
[19:11] <f4r4y0> kerloi: try java -jar myArchive.jar
[19:11] <kerloi> I'm not a java programmer so I don't know anything about how does java work but I know that the .jar I use are correct ..
[19:11] <kerloi> ok
[19:11] <panza> salve
[19:12] <kerloi> f4r4y0: Thx I knew it was something stupid :)
[19:12] <f4r4y0> kerloi: =)
[19:20] <em> Why is it so quit in here?
[19:21] <em> quiet
[19:21] <astartoth> hi all, I'm having trouble when rebooting; The laptop just shows it's brand. I have to manually turn the laptop off and back on. Any ideas on what may be causing this?
[19:21] <em> Have the #ubuntu ops finally put a stop to all human interaction?
[19:22] <phong_> hi guys, is this do-able? http://tinypic.com/r/2jchaig/5
[19:22] <tjf> phong_, maybe ##networking would be better
[19:22] <llutz> phong_: sure, needs WDS on wireless routers or just make wfi-router-B a client connected to A
[19:22] <phong_> yes llutz
[19:23] <llutz> phong_: it just depends on the routers firmware-options
[19:23] <phong_> llutz, i have 2 of DIR-615 Dlink
[19:23] <phong_> i read about thing about dd-wrt
[19:23] <phong_> dd-wrt.com
[19:23] <phong_> not sure what it is
[19:24] <llutz> phong_: dd-wrt is a 3rd party firmware for a lot of routers. check their website.
[19:24] <CastleMan> hi!
[19:24] <phong_> llutz, they got my DIR15 listed
[19:24] <phong_> dir-615 rev. e1
[19:24] <excelsior> phong_: is this you making this comment 2.5 years ago? http://texblog.net/latex-archive/layout/pdflatex-microtype/
[19:24] <phong_> but not sure what do to
[19:24] <llutz> phong_: check their wiki how to flash etc. this is offtopic here
[19:24] <ishikawa> phong_: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Universal_Wireless_Repeater
[19:25] <ishikawa> phong_: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge
[19:25] <em> I'm going to do a fresh install soon and may not have access to the internet. Could I take .debs that I like from /var/cache/apt/archives and put them on a USB and then put them back into /var/cache/apt/archives on the new installation to install those packages?
[19:25] <maxim8218> ls
[19:28] <Phob256172> how do ya?
[19:28] <Jucha> siema
[19:28] <Phob256172> siemka
[19:29] <syddraf> I'm using XFCE with a Microsoft wireless keyboard and it is not recognizing the special keys, like volume control. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:29] <Jucha> co tam :)
[19:29] <Phob256172> luz
[19:29] <Phob256172> obserwuje anonymous
[19:29] <Phob256172> :P
[19:29] <Phob256172> na twitterze
[19:30] <righteousRat> anyone here know the file directory location of a network drive?   i clicked on places>connect to server  and connected via ssh. im now able to browse through nautilus the remote folders, but i need a specific path now so i can link my text editor kate to that drive and directly edit files over the network.
[19:30] <maxim8218> does anyone know of a free usb tether app on the market
[19:30] <righteousRat> sftp i mean
[19:30] <righteousRat> not ssh
[19:30] <isotta> buonasera a tutti
[19:31] <Phob256172> buonasera geezer
[19:31] <BarkingFish> !it | isotta
[19:32] <kevin> evening all
[19:33] <kevin> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 was using linux mint 10.
[19:33] <kevin> so am new here
[19:34] <kevin> nobody talks on mint irc
[19:35] <kevin> seems similar here lol
[19:37] <sneakster> All this linux stuff is neat
[19:39] <Pumpkin-> Anyone know offhand if the Linux IP stack supports /31 IPv4 point to point links (as per RFC3021). I'm almost certain it does, but just want to check.
[19:39] <trism> kevin: not really a discussion channel, it is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel if you want to chat
[19:40] <kevin> trism, OK thanks
[19:43] <maxim8218> does anyone know is easytether has a trial period
[19:43] <jrib> !ot | maxim8218
[19:44] <_JLuc> hello
[19:44] <_JLuc> when upgrading, ihave an error with  "http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages " not existing
[19:44] <_JLuc> ":Some index files failed to download"
[19:44] <maxim8218> does anyone know if I could use my browser on a port other that 80 8080
[19:46] <slipkid08> what's up guys
[19:51] <dies_irae> ei
[19:51] <dies_irae> is middle click URL broken in ubuntu firefox as well??
[19:51] <dies_irae> it is in kubuntu
[19:51] <dies_irae> annoying as hell
[19:51] <dies_irae> I feel like I am using retarded m$$ $even
[19:52] <RD1> holonet.org
[19:52] <dies_irae> lawl@hit and run spammer
[19:57] <isotta> #Angels&Demons:Infolista Game0ver
[19:58] <dies_irae> anyone around?
[19:59] <dies_irae> maybe cuz it's Saturday.
[20:02] <mongy> caturday
[20:02] <mongy> dies_irae, I don't use FF, so no idea.  Have you enabled scrolling in options?  That's about all I know of FF
[20:03] <dies_irae> mongy: got nothing to do with scrolling
[20:03] <mongy> oh, middle clicking completely?
[20:03] <dies_irae> highlight a link the middel click (paste) into firefox page area.
[20:04] <mongy> ah,
[20:04] <singsong> UbuntuCloud: Am I getting something not right? I've opened a UbuntuOne account and I've synced one of my folders with it. I always thought, that it's like having a HDD up there in the cloud and as far as I remember, it was said, that I can access it from any computer from around the world. But then I had to reinstall my ubuntu(11.04) and I can't access my files now with ubuntuone client. And why? And now it even says my password it wrong, although I know i
[20:04] <singsong> t's right....
[20:04] <dies_irae> middle click pasting works everywhere
[20:04] <Silma> hi
[20:04] <dies_irae> bot not middle click URL to load a page.
[20:04] <bigthomas> hi
[20:05] <Rallias> Is there an application that I can take a multi-partition image file and mount the partitions separately?
[20:05] <Rallias> or manipulate them separately
[20:05] <Silma> May someone help me with Gnome-shell ? It launches, but the screen is flickering times to times, the top bar doesn't apper right, especially icons and menus ...
[20:06] <bigthomas> does anyone know why brasero still reads my dvd disc as blank when its not
[20:06] <wayne__> hello all
[20:06] <Silma> helle, wayne__
[20:07] <wayne__> I was wondering how to install codecs on ubuntu 10.10 without access to the internet
[20:07] <mongy> dies_irae, ah see what you mean..  middle click url in chromium at least opens it up.
[20:07] <singsong> oh...first things first: hi all!
[20:08] <mongy> bigthomas, I had that a lot... did you write data to it or burn an pre-mastered iso?
[20:10] <goldeneye> hello
[20:10] <goldeneye> i need some help getting sound working on by ubuntu 11.10 on thinkpad t60p
[20:11] <ishikawa> wayne__: download the codecs on a machine with access to the internet, put them on a usb stick, and transfer them to the unconnected computer
[20:12] <OerHeks> !p
[20:12] <OerHeks> !offline
[20:13] <goldeneye> can some help getting sound working on by ubuntu 11.10 on thinkpad t60p??
[20:13] <Chotaz> When VLC is reproducing it doesnt show up in the Application tab of the sound settings, and there is no sound coming out form it, how to fix it?
[20:15] <mongy> goldeneye,  first check nothing is muted in alsamixer
[20:15] <goldeneye> mongy: checked that...all five bars are up
[20:16] <mongy> goldeneye, does pulseaudio detect your card at least?
[20:16] <goldeneye> mongy : how do I check that?
[20:17] <mongy> goldeneye,  in sound settings.
[20:17] <goldeneye> i am fairly new to ubuntu
[20:17] <auronandace> goldeneye: can i see a screenshot of alsamixer?
[20:18] <goldeneye> mongy: alsamixer says i have some intel HDA. Sound settings only give me  'internal audio' analog stereo duplex
[20:18] <autojack> it's been a long time since I had to set up NFS... I've just set up one exported fs, and when I mount it on my client the user/group setting on the files is wrong. I know this is because the uid/gids don't match between the client and server. but I can't seem to get it to switch to using the 'nobody' user/group. can anyone help me out?
[20:18] <goldeneye> auronandace : sure.
[20:18] <autojack> I tried various combinations of all_squash, anonuid and anongid on the export. no dice.
[20:19] <OerHeks> goldeneye, you are affected with this bug ? >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/879790
[20:19] <mongy> goldeneye,   install gnome-alsamixer and see anything is muted there, I have known it to be so, even when alsamixer says not
[20:19] <auronandace> !screenshot | goldeneye
[20:19] <mongy> goldeneye, try rm ~/pulse* -rf and logout/login
[20:20] <goldeneye> http://imagebin.org/196093  - here it is folks
[20:21] <solarwinds> hello
[20:21] <mongy> goldeneye, don't look right.  should not say 00
[20:22] <mongy> goldeneye, sorry, my mistake.. ugh
[20:22] <goldeneye> mongy: what should i do then?
[20:22] <goldeneye> auronandace : i just posted the screen shot.
[20:22] <goldeneye> ubottu : just posted the screenshot
[20:22] <auronandace> goldeneye: i noticed
[20:22] <kevin> jajajaja
[20:23] <auronandace> goldeneye: your cd and mic are muted, but thats not what you are trying to fix is it?
[20:23] <mongy> goldeneye, press F6 select soundcard, make sure its set
[20:23] <goldeneye> OerHeks: i did upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, initially it was working, but then it just stops working for no reason.
[20:23] <goldeneye> auronandace: no, i want sound on my machine. cd and mic is something i dont use regularly.
[20:24] <mongy> goldeneye, still, have a look at gnome-alsamixer and if that don't work,  rm .pulse* -rf
[20:24] <Gos> hey you guys
[20:24] <osmosis> is there a good program to block an ip after x failed ssh login attempt to try and stop those bots that want to brute force ssh?
[20:24] <llutz> osmosis: fail2ban, denyhosts
[20:24] <mongy> osaka, fail2ban
[20:25] <goldeneye> mongy: can you put down exact steps? install gnome-alsamixer first( how ?) and then run the command above?
[20:25] <Gos> how can i set op routing if my wan address is changeing?
[20:25] <mongy> osmosis, change the ssh port as well...
[20:25] <kevin> alguin habla español
[20:25] <chris[]> osmosis: denyhosts is pretty nice also.
[20:25] <LjL> !es | kevin
[20:25] <mongy> goldeneye,  sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[20:26] <goldeneye> mongy: that command ran, everything completed
[20:26] <mongy> goldeneye, now run it
[20:26] <kevin> ubottu, vale de acuerdo, soy ingles pero solo estaba buscando se habia alguin en el chat de españa, gracias de todos forma
[20:27] <goldeneye> mongy: i ran sudo apt get. it looks like it finished installing that packcage.
[20:27] <mongy> goldeneye, check for mutes
[20:27] <goldeneye> ok
[20:27] <mongy> goldeneye, I have known of 1 instance that it showed mutes where alsamixer did not, so this is why I say try it
[20:27] <kevin> ubottu, then thats two of us jajaja
[20:27] <mongy> goldeneye, btw, i this an upgrade?
[20:27] <OerHeks> alsamixer should be installed standard. afaik
[20:28] <OerHeks> !es | kevin
[20:28] <mongy> OerHeks, gnome-alsamixer is not.
[20:28] <goldeneye> mongy: yes, its an upgrade, although i do not remmeber.
[20:28] <goldeneye> mongy: however, i still dont seem to hear any sound. nothing was muted
[20:29] <OerHeks> a while back i pointed to a confirmed bugreport about the t60 & alsa >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/879790
[20:29] <mongy> goldeneye, upgrades, ugh.....   ok then.  from terminal, do rm ~/.pulse* -rf and logout, login
[20:29] <kevin> ubottu, i am only a bot, please don't think I am intelligent :-)
[20:29] <Lolo> Hi, someone have an idea for catching the progression of an unrar in order to use it with zenity --progress ?
[20:29] <kevin> snap
[20:29] <applepie> hello
[20:29] <goldeneye> mongy: okay, i will see you in a minute after logout and login.
[20:30] <applepie> can you read this?
[20:30] <mongy> goldeneye, so there is a known bug then.....   did you try a live session to see if sound works ?
[20:30] <applepie> I have a problem
[20:30] <applepie> can i have help?
[20:30] <mongy> !ask | applepie
[20:30] <osmosis> are root logins via ssh off by default?
[20:30] <goldeneye> mongy: no, i havent tried cuz i dont know what that means. however rm ~/.pulse* -rf didnt do anything
[20:30] <kevin> I am beyond help
[20:30] <applepie> !patience | mongy
[20:31] <mongy> osmosis, by default afaik, root is allowed
[20:31] <jen__> i am on a computer that is using ubuntu 10.10 and the latest kernel image that was installed is not working I was only informed of this today and i would like to fix this issue before going any further
[20:31] <kevin> while you are waiting you could try installing windows
[20:31] <mongy> osmosis, a quick flip of a switch in ssh config and it is off...
[20:31] <LjL> applepie: please don't use the bot randomly.
[20:32] <applepie> how do i compile a c++ program? without make?
[20:32] <applepie> I normaly use make, but now i'm on windows
[20:32] <jen__> right now i am logged in using the old kernel
[20:32] <applepie> and i must build.
[20:32] <LjL> applepie: ... so how does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[20:33] <mongy> ##windows is your best bet.
[20:33] <jen__> apple you need a windows room
[20:33] <nopf> applepie: install ubuntu in virtualbox ?
[20:33] <ishikawa> Lolo: try the v flag for verbosity
[20:33] <jen__> nopf, he needs to compile on windows
[20:33] <applepie> nopf: it will take a lot of time to build a 6,000 lines program.
[20:33] <Gos> applepie: http://www.arachnoid.com/cpptutor/setup_windows.html
[20:33] <Lolo> ok ishikawa, i try
[20:33] <applepie> Thanks, Gos
[20:33] <meerkats> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/flip.dir/all] Error 2 means there is a mistake inside CMakeFiles/flip.dir/all, right?
[20:34] <IronDante> how do i switch the close buttons from left of window to right?
[20:34] <Gos> google -> compile c++ under windows
[20:34] <ishikawa> applepie: MS Visual C++
[20:34] <applepie> ishikawa, i don't want .NET lol
[20:34] <jen__> anyone help me with my kernel issue
[20:34] <applepie> .NET simply sucks.
[20:34] <Rallias> is there a tool I can use to examine the filesystem of an image file?
[20:34] <goldeneye> mongy: tried logout login - sound didnt work
[20:34] <al_nz1> where has "System" menu gone from 11.10?
[20:34] <al_nz1> I have this 11.10 desktop - how do I get the old one back?
[20:35] <nopf> applepie: not really. with modern processor virtualizing extensions the performance loss is <= 2 i'd suppose. anyhow i was mostly joking. the real question is: why you use windows? why ask here? you only want c++ where you have windows and cannot reinstall? then vbox *is* an solution
[20:35] <jen__> al_nz1, you don't
[20:35] <LjL> !ot
[20:35] <ishikawa> Rallias: you can mount the image as a loopback device and then inspect it with normal utilities
[20:35] <Lolo> ishikawa, doesn't worked
[20:35] <al_nz1> jen__: where has the "system" menu gone?
[20:35] <applepie> nopf: it should be both win/ubuntu, but i can't dualbot
[20:35] <jen__> al_nz1, unsupported with gnome 2
[20:35] <mongy> goldeneye,  :(  there is a known bug with an upgrade with your hardware.  I suggest trying out a livecd/liveusb, make sure sound works  and if it's not too much trouble, install fresh
[20:36] <DJones> !nounity | al_nz1
[20:36] <jen__> now you need to decide if you wish to deal with it or install a new window manaer
[20:36] <jen__> manager
[20:36] <goldeneye> mongy: uggh
[20:36] <xangua> al_nz1: clic the Ubuntu icon to show the dash and clic on the Apps icon
[20:36] <Raymond_> what is a .ko file
[20:36] <nopf> applepie: exactly then develop under a OS designed for software development, even if it's in a vbox :) ... or use cywin with g++ ...
[20:36] <goldeneye> mongy: something weird happend after i logged in. now, the sound settings button on the top rihgt corner, doesnt allow me to select sound setting. as soon as i click, it disappears the window
[20:37] <jen__> gnome 3 is not that bad really
[20:37] <mongy> goldeneye,  might needed to restart pulseaudio as well..
[20:37] <goldeneye> mongy: how do i do htat?
[20:37] <mongy> goldeneye, sudo service pulseaudio restart
[20:37] <maedox> So I just set a song rating in Banshee and lightdm completely stopped responding. Screen on, nothing works except I can move the pointer. Anyone know what's that all about?
[20:37] <kasii> hi all
[20:38] <maedox> Nothing in syslog
[20:38] <jen__> anyway how do i troubleshoot a messed up linux kernel
[20:38] <applepie> nopf: crappy dualcore 1.6ghz, my friend :(
[20:38] <goldeneye> mongy: * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions  - is what i get when i try to restart
[20:38] <kofa> Hi, I have an issue with a C-Media USB audio device, can't get the microphone to record anything but static. Plugging the mic into the motherboard's mic slot works; the USB device shows up, I can play music through it, I've made sure to unmute the mic and turn the volume up to max, but the mic does not record anything on the USB input.
[20:38] <mongy> goldeneye, ok
[20:38] <nopf> applepie: *cygwin* i ment... or use something like kdevelop. never used it on windows, but it says it'll work
[20:38] <jen__> applepie, that's not that bad
[20:38] <al_nz1> xangua: ta
[20:38] <singsong> ok, Hi again, and...
[20:38] <singsong> UbuntuCloud: Am I getting something not right? I've opened a UbuntuOne account and I've synced one of my folders with it. I always thought, that it's like having a HDD up there in the cloud and as far as I remember, it was said, that I can access it from any computer from around the world. But then I had to reinstall my ubuntu(11.04) and I can't access my files now with ubuntuone client. And why? And now it even says my password it wrong, although I know i
[20:38] <singsong> t's right....
[20:39] <LjL> singsong: #ubuntuone might know better
[20:39] <applepie> nopf: thanks, i'll get along with cygwin
[20:39] <nopf> applepie: and yes, i have a 1.6ghz atom *with* virtualization extensions that runs qemu exactly as fast as a 4 ghz 64bit system with 4 times as much ram and no hardware virtualization support
[20:39] <ishikawa> Lolo: unrar x -ierr -o+ file.rar 2>  capture
[20:39] <mongy> al_nz1, there is a package called indicator-appmenu , google it and install it.  It's a classic menu in form of indicator
[20:40] <osaka> mongy: hello?
[20:40] <OerHeks> singsong, oke, goto the http page, login, and go to preferences, select there your new indstalled ubuntu ID
[20:40] <applepie> nopf: mine does not have virtualization tech.
[20:40] <yeats> jen__: what's not working?
[20:40] <ishikawa> ishikawa: you can read the capture file from your frontend interface
[20:40] <singsong> LjL on the same server?
[20:40] <jen__> the newest linux kernel
[20:40] <LjL> singsong: yes, here on freenode.
[20:40] <jen__> it's not booting i am using the old one
[20:40] <yeats> jen__: I read that - what about the kernel isn't working
[20:40] <yeats> oh
[20:40] <jen__> i said that quite a while ago
[20:40] <yeats> jen__: any useful error messages when the boot fails?
[20:41] <jen__> some program i can't remember is already loaded and then it hangs half way through startup\
[20:41] <singsong> OerHeks you mean to ubuntu.com?
[20:42] <goldeneye> mongy: i restarted my machine, no sound...
[20:42] <jen__> i thought about removing and reinstalling that kernel image but not sure what the image would be or if it would make a difference
[20:42] <OerHeks> no, one.ubuntu.com
[20:42] <singsong> ok
[20:42] <jen__> is there a log i can look at
[20:42] <mongy> goldeneye, look at the bug page and see if there is some workaround or fix..
[20:43] <yeats> jen__: can you find the specific error messages in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/syslog?
[20:43] <jen__> i can paste it to debian pastebin or something
[20:43] <goldeneye> mongy: i coulndt find any bugs page.
[20:43] <jen__> will look
[20:43] <goldeneye> mongy: morover, i have been googling past half an hour :) didnt find anything that fixes this
[20:44] <singsong> ok, it worked. Thanks!
[20:44] <Gos> i 3 vboxes 1 server and 3 clients witch must bee in a seperate network the server is localy addressed ass 192.168.25.3 and on the other side it is briged in to my lan (for internet) in the 198.168.1.0 netowrk wher it gets its host ip from a dhcp now how can i setop the server witch is supposed to be the gateway for the client to route the traffic if i dont know the specific outside adderss
[20:44] <OerHeks> singsong, have fun
[20:45] <yeats> goldeneye: have you tried creating a new user to see if sound works for that user? just a thought...
[20:45] <singsong> thx!
[20:45] <mongy> goldeneye, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/879790
[20:45] <singsong> take care!
[20:45] <singsong> bye
[20:46] <codepal> does ubuntu 12 have gnome 3 & linux kern 3 in it?
[20:46] <codepal> I'm a bit confused...
[20:46] <walden> so how well does Nautilus work for backing up files from iOS devices?
[20:46] <walden> i'm surprised it seems to be working at all
[20:47] <OerHeks> codepal, yes, but Q & support in #Ubuntu+1
[20:48] <codepal> thanks OerHeks!
[20:48] <glebihan> codepal, ubuntu 11.10 already has gnome3 and kernel 3
[20:48] <goldeneye> yeats: no that wont work.
[20:48] <goldeneye> mongy: yea i ve been to this link too., doesnt hae any workarounds
[20:49] <yeats> goldeneye: and (I see someone suggest this but) you *do* or *don't* get sound when running the live CD of 11.10?
[20:49] <BenSprz> good evening, could someone please help me with an ubuntu wireless problem?
[20:49] <dlentz> !ask | BenSprz
[20:50] <jen__> thanks for the help but this will have to wait
[20:50] <goldeneye> yeats: havent tried that. but the sound was working before for a couple days. and then as soon as i suspended, and started machine, its failing
[20:50] <jen__> thanks
[20:50] <kofa> Any ideas regarding my mic problem? I'm on 11.10.
[20:50] <mongy> goldeneye, a reinstall can be painless, if you dont format your home partition, or if it's not on seperate partition, don't format your /
[20:50] <yeats> jen__: ok
[20:50] <goldeneye> after repeated restarts, it doesnt work
[20:50] <BenSprz> i have ubuntu 10.4 on a live cd but it doesnt find my wireless network
[20:51] <goldeneye> mongy: hmm, i just avoid doing that cuz i dont understand the partition stuff fully.
[20:51] <yeats> goldeneye: any useful information in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg?
[20:52] <yeats> goldeneye: there are many in this channel who would be happy to help with partitioning -FYI
[20:52] <dlentz> goldeneye, the bug report seems to indicate a pulseaudio issue
[20:52] <hyppias> is there a live server image I can easily burn on a USB stick and run fromn there?
[20:52] <goldeneye> yeatS: havent checked the logs....that would have grown huge anyways to scour through
[20:53] <goldeneye> dlentz, yeah, this what keeps me away from totally switching to linux. i love the OS but such inconsistencies that i cannot resolve, force me to move back to windows
[20:54] <mongy> goldeneye, go back to 11.04 for now is maybe best.
[20:54] <BenSprz> dlentz what do i have to do to make my ubuntu live cd find my wireless network?
[20:54] <mongy> BenSprz, depends what wifi chipset you have.
[20:54] <goldeneye> mongy: i had same problem with 11.04, inconsistencies with sound. would work some days, fail some days.....
[20:55] <BenSprz> mongy, where can i find out what wifi chipset i do have?
[20:55] <mongy> goldeneye, sorry to hear
[20:55] <mongy> Ben64, lspci | grep Network
[20:56] <servidor> hola me pueden ayudar a configurar squid para un servidor proxy?
[20:57] <goldeneye> mongy: and others, thanks for help. switching to windows for now..
[20:57] <acerimmer> !es|servidor
[20:57] <yeats> goldeneye: sorry to hear it, but understood :-/
[20:57] <mongy> goldeneye, tried the LTS 10.04?
[20:58] <goldeneye> mongy: no, i havent. i remember installing 8.x and then jumped to 11,04 when sound started having issues.
[20:58] <BenSprz> mongy: bcm4311 802.11bg/g WLAN (rev2)
[20:58] <yeats> goldeneye: +1 to 10.04 - great release
[20:58] <mongy> Ben64, you need to install firmware then.  sudo apt-get install firmware-b4-installer
[20:59] <goldeneye> yeats: well it may be, but sound never worked for me !
[20:59] <mongy> goldeneye, being an LTS you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS when released.  It's a very stable Os
[20:59] <mongy> goldeneye, though, you may need to enable backports and upgrade alsa modules.
[20:59] <acerimmer> goldeneye: sticking with LTS releases can seriously lower ubuntu related stress.
[20:59] <yeats> goldeneye: thought you said you went from 8.X to 11.04 :-/?
[21:00] <mongy> Ben64, sorry, wrong name.
[21:00] <mongy> BenSprz, you need to install firmware then.  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[21:00] <goldeneye> yeats: yes i left using ubuntu for a while for some issue or the other, i couldnt get it working fully , back in that version something else was broken. which is why i dont consistently use this OS and have iwndows installed on the machine.
[21:01] <kofa> bye
[21:01] <BenSprz> mongy: how can i install firmware with no internet access?
[21:01] <nullhax> hi all......
[21:01] <mongy> BenSprz, use a cable or download it on another machine
[21:01] <goldeneye> yeats: cuz when you are in urgent need, and something like citrix client or something else doesnt, work you need something as failback.
[21:01] <theTroy> I have connected a screen vai HDMI to DVI cable. Nvidia drivers only allow me to output 640x480 resolution. Is there a way to output native 1440x900?
[21:01] <nullhax> Hope everyone is doing great...............
[21:02] <yeats> goldeneye: I understand that - of course once you're deep enough in, Ubuntu becomes that fallback ;-)
[21:02] <jasonsrus2007> nullhax, of course we are :D
[21:02] <Raymond_> this might help all you new people http://www.perpetualpc.net/srtd_commands_rev.html
[21:03] <goldeneye> yeats: ok, for now i ll switch to windows :) good bye
[21:03] <mongy> BenSprz, sudo apt-get -d install firmware-b43-installer and then copy the files from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to a usb stick or something, then put copy them to you home and sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:03] <Boreeas> Hmm, after resuming from sleep, ubuntu didn't like my password anymore. I had to restart my computer for it to work again
[21:03] <mongy> BenSprz, are you wanting to just try out the livecd or do you want internet access during installation?
[21:04] <BenSprz> mongy: actually, I want to try out the live cd and see if everything works and then install ubuntu but i have little knowledge of command line
[21:05] <asif> hi all
[21:05] <asif> question people, how do i get rid of the kde/kubuntu desktop environment that I installed
[21:05] <mongy> BenSprz, does everything ekse work ?
[21:05] <yeats> !puregnome | asif
[21:06] <mongy> else*
[21:06] <BenSprz> mongy: looks like it, desktop looks nice i guess everything but the wireless
[21:07] <mongy> BenSprz, then install..  wireless will work
[21:07] <BenSprz> mongy: how so if it doesnt with the cd?
[21:07] <asif> tried that ubottu
[21:07] <mongy> BenSprz, during install you get 2 tick boxes, download updates and install 3rd party software..  tick them both.
[21:07] <asif> and did not work
[21:07] <asif> i got the following
[21:07] <asif> Reading package lists... Done
[21:07] <asif> Building dependency tree
[21:07] <asif> Reading state information... Done
[21:07] <asif> Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[21:07] <FloodBot1> asif: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <mongy> BenSprz, it should install the bcm driver for you to connec to your hotspot before continuing on..  does with my bcm4312
[21:08] <yeats> asif: can you paste the full output at http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the link?
[21:09] <mongy> BenSprz, try it anyway, it's something you can do before partitioning and making changes....
[21:09] <asif> done "yeats"
[21:09] <phong_> hi guys i got it to w2ork now
[21:09] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820528/
[21:09] <phong_> who was the person that help me last time/
[21:09] <Raymond_> how do i check what version kernel i have
[21:09] <phong_> please type something
[21:09] <mongy> BenSprz, if it works, great, install.  If not, then you need the firmware-b43-installer package for your particular chipset, which does work, when the STA driver on the installation cd does not.
[21:10] <bastidrazor> Raymond_: uname -r
[21:10] <yeats> asif: looks like your APT is broken... can you try 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[21:11] <asif> 0 upgraded 0newly installed etc
[21:11] <asif> 0 for everything
[21:11] <Lolo> Thx ishikawa, but with your command, i got a file with the result, but not a clue to use it with zenity to have a real time progress bar :(
[21:12] <yeats> asif: okay - but no more errors?  If not, try the "pure gnome" command again
[21:12] <asif> no errors
[21:12] <yeats> asif: you can use up arrow to re-run previous commands
[21:13] <asif> did so
[21:13] <asif> im more of a windows person but am fed up with it, like ubuntu but these errors here and there ae kinda putting me off
[21:13] <asif> are*
[21:14] <mongy> BenSprz, actually,  boot the livecd and run the additional drivers tool, sometimes you can install the driver there and use it
[21:14] <yeats> asif: so did it not work this time?
[21:14] <asif> nope
[21:14] <yeats> asif: can you paste the full output again?
[21:14] <Rotham_> hey.. so how do i flush dns cache on ubuntu 10/11?
[21:15] <hyppias> is there an ubuntu server live cd image I can put on a USB stick?
[21:15] <BenSprz> mongy: will try
[21:15] <BenSprz> thanks
[21:16] <yeats> !ubuntu-server | hyppias
[21:16] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820536/
[21:17] <BenSprz> mongy: installation of B43 driver fails, it tells me to look at /var/log/jockey.log
[21:17] <yeats> asif: have you tried installing the 'odbcinst' package that it's complaining about?
[21:18] <yeats> asif: this error is not related to your kubuntu issue, btw - this must be from something you were trying to do before.
[21:18] <mongy> BenSprz, I suspected it might.  You need the firmware-b43-installer, once you are hooked up to net.
[21:18] <Plycion> What is the best laptop for ubuntu?
[21:18] <yeats> !best | Plycion
[21:18] <mongy> BenSprz, still.  try the installer and select to install 3rd party.
[21:19] <bastidrazor> Plycion: check out system76.com
[21:19] <wttg> i want to ssh to my netbook and open firefox from a session with a url but have that open on tty0 so the firefox window with the url will show, how can i do that
[21:19] <mongy> BenSprz, if you don't get a notification that networks are disconnected, and there are no hotspots viewable in the network icon at top, then, no go
[21:19] <Plycion> Thank
[21:19] <Plycion> thanks
[21:20] <Plycion> yeah so I hear a lot about system76
[21:20] <Plycion> Does anyone own one here?
[21:20] <asif> ill try installing the odbcinst package
[21:20] <yeats> wttg: if I'm understanding your question, you can do 'ssh -X hostname' then type 'firefox' to open it
[21:20] <yeats> asif: yeah - that's what I'd try next
[21:21] <BenSprz> mongy: i do get the notification that im disconnected, but i cant see any hotspots
[21:21] <mongy> BenSprz, that notification usually means its loaded the driver.. Hmm, give it a few seconds.
[21:22] <BenSprz> the apt-get install line said: couldnt find package firmware...
[21:22] <mongy> BenSprz, either way, I know bcm4311 works in ubuntu.
[21:22] <mongy> BenSprz, if it's not with the STA driver then it will work with the firmware-b43
[21:22] <trollboy> howdy, I've got line out of one pc going into line in of my ubuntu box in hopes of using the speakers of my ubuntu box for both... I've got the input tab of my Sound Preferences set up correctly (I think, I can see movement on the input level bar), but no sound comes out.
[21:22] <trollboy> This is 11.04
[21:22] <trollboy> any thoughts?
[21:23] <wttg> yeats: so ssh -X user@host, then: firefox http://myurl; i need to attach that to tty0 so i can see firefox pop up on my netbook
[21:23] <evinrude> what does <> mean when applying it to redirection? I know that < redirects a files contents as stdin and > redirects stdout, but what does this mean if they are used together (diamond).
[21:23] <yeats> ams on a remote machine
[21:24] <asif> yeats:tried installing didnt work
[21:24] <yeats> wttg: I may not be clear on what you're trying to do, but 'ssh -X' is the way to access X programs on a remote machine (sorry truncated before)
[21:24] <yeats> asif: can you pastebin again?
[21:24] <asif> checked in synaptic package number and it is already installed
[21:25] <BenSprz> mongy: i tried the sta driver from the live cd, now rebooting, see what happens
[21:25] <yeats> asif: what is the output of 'sudo apt-get install odbcinst'?
[21:25] <yeats> (you may need to close synaptic for that to work btw)
[21:26] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820544/
[21:26] <ironhalik> Is there any info on plymouth not working with _open source_ drivers? There are tons of guides to fix it after installing prop drivers, but for me, its broken with nouveau
[21:26] <funkymonk> does any one here have experience streaming movies from their ubuntu server?
[21:26] <yeats> asif: okay - looks like it should be okay now - is it still not working?
[21:27] <asif> ill try again
[21:27] <brerrabbit> hi.  I can't seem to get a vnc server installed on natty:  E: Unable to locate package tightvncserver
[21:27] <brerrabbit> how can i locate and add the package to apt?
[21:28] <asif> still not working
[21:28] <yeats> !info tightvncserver
[21:28] <asif> same output
[21:28] <yeats> asif: can you pastebin the actual command you're trying to run?  it's truncated in the other pastes
[21:29] <bastidrazor> brerrabbit: it is in universe repo. you might need to enable it in software sources
[21:29] <brerrabbit> bastidrazor: thanks, possible to do through ssh?
[21:29] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820547/
[21:32] <bastidrazor> brerrabbit: yes, uncomment the universe line in /etc/apt/sources.list and update your package list
[21:32] <brerrabbit> bastidrazor: there is no such line.
[21:32] <excelsior> low latency kernel?
[21:32] <brerrabbit> deb http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty main
[21:32] <brerrabbit> that's all
[21:33] <yeats> asif: so, when you say "same output", it's still complaining about odbcinst?
[21:33] <brerrabbit> vps
[21:33] <asif> yes
[21:33] <asif> no change
[21:34] <mongy> brerrabbit,  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php  if you need to make a default sources list.
[21:34] <bastidrazor> brerrabbit: ah, add similiar line but substitute main for universe
[21:35] <excelsior> how do you switch to a lower latency kernel from the generic kernel, and back?
[21:35] <yeats> asif: okay try 'sudo apt-get remove odbcinst1debian2' and pastebin that output
[21:35] <trollboy> anyone see my sound issue?
[21:35] <BenSprz> repartitioning is taking long going now thanks
[21:36] <Doodie> hi, java applet is not running in Chrome. What should I install?
[21:36] <brerrabbit> mongy: thanks...looking into that.
[21:36] <mk> how can I configure nautilus
[21:36] <dr_willis> !java | Doodie
[21:36] <dr_willis> mk:  be a bit more detailed in your question
[21:36] <Doodie> okey
[21:36] <brerrabbit> bastidsrazor:  didnt work....
[21:37] <mongy> brerrabbit, you basically need the first 6
[21:37] <bastidrazor> brerrabbit: did you update your package list? apt-get update ?
[21:37] <mk> the thumbnails are too distant, and have too much metadata under them
[21:37] <brerrabbit> bastidrazor: yes
[21:37] <mongy> brerrabbit, main, restricted, universe, multiverse, security and updates
[21:37] <mk> I'd like to, ideally, have them about 2 pixels apart with absolutely no words underneath
[21:37] <ninnypants> I'm trying to get php 5.3.9 to compile on the latest ubuntu server but I keep getting a configure error  saying there isn't a libxml2 install dir but I've installed libxml2 through apt-get any ideas why it's not registering when I try to run ./configure ?
[21:38] <mk> even more ideally, if I could get a google images style view in nautilus
[21:38] <brerrabbit> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'unverse/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[21:38] <dr_willis> ninnypants:  you installed the libxml2 dev packages also?
[21:38] <mk> but really, any detailed display settings for nautilus - how do I get them
[21:38] <asif> http://paste.ubuntu.com/820556/
[21:38] <ninnypants> dr_willis: probably not is it just libxml2-dev?
[21:38] <yeats> asif: whew - something is really borked on your system
[21:38] <dr_willis> ninnypants:  no idea. close to that name at least.
[21:38] <asif> lol
[21:39] <asif> i upgraded to 10.10 and since then things have been a bit crap
[21:39] <bjv> Best aproach for creating a new USB startup drive... using a USB startup drive?
[21:39] <asif> playin up
[21:39] <dr_willis> ninnypants:  theres the sudo apt-get build-deps PACKAGENAME that is supposed to pull in all needed dev files to compile an app.
[21:39] <asif> that is
[21:39] <bjv> i unmounted the only /dev/sdb thing tha twas mounted...
[21:39] <asif> and then i decided to install the kde environment
[21:39] <asif> as it looked pretty cool
[21:40] <bjv> still get ioctl error while writing the partition table
[21:40] <yeats> asif: APT is reporting that 1) odbcinst1debian2 can't be installed, 2) that odbcinst1debian2 *is* installed and 3) that odbcinst1debian2 is not found and therefore can't be removed
[21:40] <asif> yup
[21:40] <asif> it is well and truly knackered dont you think
[21:40] <yeats> asif: have you considered backing up your data and installing fresh?
[21:40] <ninnypants> dr_willis: should I be able to use apt-get to install php 5.3.9? I've been trying to compile from source
[21:40] <asif> i have
[21:40] <asif> lol
[21:40] <asif> wanted to avoid that
[21:40] <asif> guess its the only option I have now
[21:41] <D4rth_B4n3> can somebody help me with a server network connection problem ?
[21:41] <asif> i might just install the latest version
[21:41] <yeats> asif: well you probably *can* ferret out what's going wrong with APT, but yeah - I think I'd not bother and reinstall
[21:41] <asif> when does the support LTS for 10.04 run out?
[21:41] <yeats> !clone | asif
[21:41] <brerrabbit> mongy: http://pastie.org/3272179
[21:41] <yeats> asif: April 2013
 can somebody help me with a server network connection problem ?
[21:42] <mneptok> asif: April 2015 for server
[21:42] <excelsior> how do you switch to a lower latency kernel from the generic kernel, and back?
[21:42] <dr_willis> ninnypants:  the build-deps option can pull in needed dev packages to compile php
[21:42] <mongy> brerrabbit, odd.
[21:42] <elky> D4rth_B4n3, nobody's going to know if they can until you give more information about what the problem is.
[21:42] <brerrabbit> odd and unpleasant
[21:42] <dr_willis> ninnypants:  there may be ppa's with newer verisons also.
[21:43] <asif> yeats:is there anyway of playing drm content on ubuntu
[21:43] <asif> ?
[21:43] <dr_willis> asif:  would depend on the DRM i imagine.
[21:43] <yeats> asif: depends on what it is, but often the answer is no
[21:44]  * yeats steps out for a bit
[21:44] <brerrabbit> mongy: bastiddrazor: Got it working.  Thanks! :)
[21:45] <Ritchy4073> hum
[21:45] <mk> where are the icon spacing settings for nautilus?
[21:45] <asif> trying to play lovefilm videos
[21:45] <asif> streaming content
[21:45] <D4rth_B4n3> ok elky i set up a server (ubuntu 10.04 32 bit) and dont have network (isnt fun) is there a possibility to connect over wifi to a network ?
[21:45] <mongy> brerrabbit, how?
[21:46] <brerrabbit> mongy: problem was between the keyboard and the chair
[21:46] <brerrabbit> :P
[21:46] <mongy> lol
[21:46] <dr_willis> apt-get remove chair
[21:46] <brerrabbit> ha
[21:46] <D4rth_B4n3> lol
[21:47] <brerrabbit> 'unverse'
[21:47] <mongy> eric@kripke:~$  apt-get install siri
[21:47] <mk> I'm in gconf editor, under apps/nautilus... where are the icon spacing settings?
[21:48] <elky> D4rth_B4n3, i think it's capable, but i have no way personally to check this for you right now.
[21:49] <elky> D4rth_B4n3, are you meaning in the install process, or after?
[21:49] <kasii> kkk
[21:50] <D4rth_B4n3> after
[21:50] <D4rth_B4n3> but just normal installed
[21:50] <Ritchy4073> hum
[21:51] <elky> D4rth_B4n3, there is a CLI network manager, but i haven't a clue right now what it's called.
[21:51] <D4rth_B4n3> elky can i find it out somewhere ?
[21:52] <excelsior> dr_willis: how do you switch to a lower latency kernel from the generic kernel, and back?
[21:52] <mongy> wicd-cli?
[21:52] <elky> D4rth_B4n3, probably by looking at wifi tools in synaptic, or using a search engine.
[21:52] <elky> er, mongy has the answer
[21:52] <D4rth_B4n3> ok i ll try it thx elky
[21:52] <mongy> wicd-ncurses
[21:52] <dr_willis> excelsior:  install it.. select it at the grub menu..
[21:52] <dr_willis> excelsior:  select other kenel at grub if you wan tto go back i would imagine
[21:53] <elky> mongy, thanks. things that don't show up for "apt-cache search wifi" includes wicd.
[21:54] <mongy> elky,  I jsut setup the interfaces file and be done with the rest.
[21:54] <Doodie> how do I copy every files in a folder using terminal? cp *.*
[21:54] <meerkats> on unity, dash browser doesnt seem to work: if I write firefox it will show no results. I have tried with several apps, but it still returns nothing
[21:54] <elky> mongy, i'm sure D4rth_B4n3 would be willing to do that if you had the time to guide him :)
[21:55] <meerkats> plus, there is an icon which resembles 2 vertical lines that is gone (bottom part)
[21:56] <Pumpkin-> I'm doing somthing particulary bizzare, and I want to bring up an extra pair of loopback interfaces at boottime. I've got them configured in /etc/network/interfaces afaik correct, but they won't load at boottime. They come up with a manual ifup though just fine. Full details at http://paste.ubuntu.com/820569/
[21:56] <mongy> elky, D4rth_B4n3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7775107&postcount=2
[21:56] <D4rth_B4n3> thx mongy
[21:56] <dr_willis> mk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/97606/missing-nautilus-option-compact-layout has some info on that topic
[21:57] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, you want ap_scan=2 if you have hidden ssid
[21:58] <dr_willis> Pumpkin-:  you could put the commands to bring them up in /etc/rc.local
[21:58] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, basically, follow that guide but also look at the link he links to also.
[21:58] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, any probs, gimme a shout
[21:58] <Pumpkin-> dr_willis: yeah, thats my desperation move :). I just wondered if anyone knew of a clean method.
[21:58] <D4rth_B4n3> i will mongy
[21:58] <D4rth_B4n3> thx though
[21:59] <mk> dr_willis, thanks, that looks on the right track, but no real solution
[22:00] <mk> perhaps I'm mistaken that there were actual settings for thumbnail spacing...
[22:00] <goth> re
[22:00] <goth> confirmed, it is a terminal thing :)
[22:00] <goth> xterm => ctrl + S causes it to become non-responsive?
[22:01] <dr_willis> mk:  i never recall seeing any befor
[22:01] <dr_willis> goth:  bash/shell basics.. ctrl-s and ctrl-q are 'flow control' keycodes
[22:02] <mk> I had it set up so that the spaces much smaller than now... at the moment, I can fit 1.5 images into the spaces between images
[22:02] <dr_willis> goth:  OLD skool stuff from the days of serial terminals i belive.
[22:02] <mk> which is stupid, as far as a layout for thumbnails (images) goes
[22:02] <mongy> bit like http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/01/confirmed-fleshlight-developing-ipad-case-you-can-have-sex-with/
[22:03] <mongy> wrong window! nooo!
[22:03] <mongy> sudo butterfly effect
[22:04] <forever1> 3tb problem with ubuntu any idea's
[22:04] <goth> why is ctrl + S usefull?
[22:04] <mk> are there any extensions/packages that change how nautilus displays picture folders?
[22:04] <meerkats> on unity, dash home doesnt seem to work: if I write firefox it will show no results. I have tried with several apps, but it still returns nothing
[22:04] <mongy> mk, there is something, I forget it's name.  Let me see.
[22:04] <meerkats> im not interested in that, but another app that doesnt appear by default
[22:05] <mk> (or any suggestions for what I should google ... are they called extensions, plugins, or what?)
[22:05] <elky> bad mongy, bad :P
[22:05] <dr_willis> mk:  not noticed any for better thumbnailing. there is some glooblus thing that gives better previews  i recall.
[22:06] <dr_willis> mk:  but thats not what you have been trying to do  i think. :)
[22:06] <dies_irae> how to chmod for several users?
[22:06] <dies_irae> how to share a dir?
[22:06] <mongy> cover gloobus , that's it
[22:06] <dies_irae> I get access denied
[22:06]  * mongy pretending it never happend.
[22:07] <dies_irae> ppl, help plz
[22:07] <mongy> chmod 777 for all users
[22:08] <dies_irae> k
[22:08] <dr_willis> !info gnome-sushi
[22:08] <bastidrazor> dies_irae: create a group and add all the users to that group. give that group read write execute to the folder
[22:08] <bastidrazor> mongy: that is a bad idea.
[22:08] <dr_willis> wonder how gloobus and gnome-sushi differ :)
[22:09] <dies_irae> bastidrazor: just did chmod 777 for sharing /
[22:09] <forever1> anyone have nvidia trouble?
[22:09] <dies_irae> jk
[22:09] <mongy> dies_irae, was only meant for a local share, not whole /
[22:10] <mongy> dies_irae,  oh, you.............
[22:10] <EchohcE> Does anyone know an overclocking channel on irc?
[22:10] <forever1> local share chmod 755
[22:10] <dr_willis> forever1:  not to the extent that i have ATI troubles. :)
[22:11] <dies_irae> EchohcE: maybe #hardware ppl there talk a lot about OC, they're in the scene
[22:11] <forever1> I got nvidia installed with app but info not recognized in system info
[22:12] <forever1> maybe try again sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:14] <forever1> dr_willis: what type of ati trouble?
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[22:15] <mk> I'm looking at covergloobus... it doesn't seem to lay out thumbnails more compactly, or am I mistaken?
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[22:15] <mongy> mk, there is a compact layout already in nautilus
[22:16] <mk> mongy, where?
[22:16] <mongy> mk, the options, somewhere.  I don't use it but I know it's there.
[22:16] <mk> compact gives me a multi-column list view
[22:16] <mongy> mk, called 'compact layout' I believe.
[22:17] <mk> could you check on yours please? I've been looking all over settings
[22:17] <mongy> mk, I know it 'shoves' the icons across and uses all space possible
[22:17] <mk> I'm on nautilus 3.2.1
[22:17] <dies_irae> compact mode -> cli terminal
[22:17] <mk> mongy, yeah, I think that's what I'm looking for. unable to find it
[22:18] <forever1> exit
[22:18] <mk> dies_irae, the terminal doesn't display icons
[22:18] <mk> or thumbnails, rather
[22:18] <dies_irae> mk: display command does
[22:19] <mk> what do you mean?
[22:19] <dies_irae> mk: from imagemagick
[22:21] <mk> dies_irae, I need something for nautilus, preferably open source
[22:21] <PredaGR_> hello people, using nvidia drivers 290.10 for ubuntu lucid from ubuntu-x-swat, but there must be something wrong as the performance level does raise but does not drop, so it is permanently staying at performance level 2, any ideas why this might be happening?
[22:21] <mongy> dies_irae, ahh.  I see.  It's different in 11.10
[22:22] <mongy> dies_irae, there used to be an option to compact icons closer together in 11.04
[22:22] <mongy> dies_irae, I guess gnome 3 left that out
[22:24] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/97606/missing-nautilus-option-compact-layout
[22:26] <jedacorp> who do i talk to concerning a vunerability in ubuntu terminal?
[22:26] <Lolo> Hi, someone have an idea for catching the progression of an unrar in order to use it with zenity --progress ?
[22:29] <tjiggi_fo> jedacorp, try #ubuntu-security
[22:29] <dr_willis> !bug
[22:30] <mk> how can I change the size of the icons in nautilus?
[22:30] <jedacorp> thanks <tjiggi_fo>
[22:31] <mongy> mk, you could use another file manager like thunar or pcmanfm
[22:31] <dr_willis> i dont think pcmanfm has that feature :)
[22:32] <mongy> dr_willis, resize icons ?  does
[22:32] <xangua> mk: Control+scroll up/down ; like you do in the browser ;)
[22:32] <mk> that resizes the spacing in proportion to the pictures
[22:32] <dr_willis> nautilus here has zoom in/out fetures.  i just noticed
[22:34] <mk> I think there's an actual setting for the default thumbnail size
[22:34] <mk> rather than the default zoom
[22:34] <mongy> mk, pcmanfm has very little spacing
[22:35] <mk> I'll keep it in mind but I'd rather not switch... unity might get mad, and so on
[22:35] <DonJuan> I'm looking for some support trouble shooting MTP.
[22:35] <dr_willis> pcmanfm preview mode here.. just is using big icons.. but im not seeing any actual previews of the files/images/videos
[22:36] <dr_willis> there we go.. saw a preview for a jpg. :) heh
[22:36] <ishikawa> mk: remember, there is also ls, cp, mv, chmod, etc.
[22:36] <mongy> ok thunar then, thumbnails with little spacing
[22:38] <dr_willis> comparing Nautilus to pcmanfm here - Nautilus seems to have more varity in the sizes it can use for the image previews
[22:38] <mk> I've got dconf open. There's a thumbnail-size setting, which I increased from 64 to 120
[22:39] <mk> sadly, no change. yet when I click the labels-beside-icons bool setting, it switches in my open naut window
[22:39] <mongy> mk, you want little to no space between icons/thumbnails?  use thunar or pcmanfm
[22:40] <mongy> seems like gnome3 deemed that option obselete
[22:41] <mk> I worry about switching, since I'm rather used to nautilus. I've got network bookmarks in there, and so on.
[22:41] <mk> thanks for letting me know about the setting, I'll stop looking around for it
[22:43] <dr_willis> mongy:  correct... its been removed
[22:43] <rgreener25> Hi
[22:44] <dr_willis> theres that elementary file manager.. but i forget its name..
[22:44] <dr_willis> its a work in progress. :)
[22:44] <Rask> Hey all, this is probably a newbish question, but-- I'm running Ubuntu server and I need to upgrade Bitlbee to the 3.0.4 release (currently have 3.0.3 from apt), but I don't want to muck up its relationship with apt.  What is the best known method in such cases?
[22:44] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/marlin-elementary-file-browser-gets.html    it may have some differnt features
[22:45] <excelsior> dr_willis: thank you!
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> !info bitlbee
[22:47] <mongy> in pcmanfm, you set the size of 'big icons', 'small icons' and thumbnails.
[22:47] <mongy> try it before you deny it
[22:47] <Rask> MonkeyDust: Ya, that's the version I have.  3.0.4 was released on 4 Dec 2011... is there any way to get it without just blowing away and installing from source?
[22:47] <Rask> Some kind of 'unstable' package repo I can add, etc.?
[22:48] <dr_willis> Rask:  find a PPA
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> Rask  i didnt know what it was until now
[22:49] <osaka> took  longervto connect that get here and drink
[22:49] <Rask> dr_willis: So, add a third-party package repo - if I do that, will apt correctly associate the package from the PPA with the existing one, realize the PPA has a newer version, and upgrade properly?
[22:50] <dr_willis> Rask:  thats how they work. Be sort of useless otherwise
[22:50] <Rask> Well, one would hope, but measure twice cut once. :)
[22:50] <Rask> Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[22:50] <dr_willis> assuming there is a ppa for it.
[22:50] <osaka> b
[22:50] <osaka> beep
[22:51] <dr_willis> Bleep?
[22:52] <forever2> maybe bleeps?
[22:54] <forever2> I really think virtualbox is better that wine
[22:55] <dr_willis> forever2:  depends on your needs.
[22:56] <erick> Some body French can help me plz about crunchbang?
[22:56] <Krenair> !fr
[22:56] <Phrogz_> Anyone know how to build drivers from source? http://askubuntu.com/questions/99373/building-driver-for-ralink-rt5370-usb-wifi-wlan-dongle
[22:56] <erick> thx all
[22:57] <forever2> ./configure make install
[22:57] <dr_willis> Hmm 'marlin' can do some very close image previews. in a varity of sizes
[22:58] <Phrogz_> forever2: There's no configure file in there, and per the link 'make' is dying with an error I don't know how to recover from.
[23:00] <forever2> phrogz_:you need to re-download file sounds corrupt
[23:01] <Phrogz_> forever2: Wow, would be great if that's all it was. Good thought, I'll re-attempt.
[23:02] <Phrogz_> Thought, that seems unlikely, if it bunzip'd and untar'd successfully.
[23:02] <forever2> phrogz_:also check su is in root
[23:03] <artichoku> sup ppl
[23:03] <mrkennie> hello
[23:03] <Konam>  /msg NickServ identify pokemon
[23:03] <mrkennie> um, is there a ubuntu dev channel?
[23:04] <cheese1756> I seem to be getting an error with Mumble. When I connect to a server, it says "Unable to find matching CELT codecs with other clients. You will not be able to talk to all users." Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:04] <acicula> Phrogz_: if you get the same error as on that page its not a corrupt download, if it was the tarball would probably even fail unpacking
[23:04] <acicula> Phrogz_: the error is because it is trying to install into a directory that is not there
[23:05] <forever2> phrogz_:reading more into it, you might be missing a lib file somewhere
[23:05] <cheese1756> Konam, You probably didn't mean to send that to the whole channel. I'd advise changing your passwords, as 1,543 people now know what your password is
[23:05] <black_> ms
[23:05] <acicula> Phrogz_: the kernlname/build usually points to the kernel tree i think
[23:05] <acicula> might simply be missing?
[23:05] <Phrogz_> forever2: That sounds probable, though it looks like one they ought have included.
[23:05] <Konam> cheese1756 how can i do it=
[23:05] <Konam> ?
[23:06] <yekoms> im having problem getting a Realtek 8188C usb wireless N running
[23:06] <yekoms> driver is in present in lsmod, but wont obtain a ip address
[23:06] <yekoms> should i try a reboot?
[23:06] <cheese1756> Konam,     /MSG NickServ SET PASSWORD mynewpassword
[23:06] <cheese1756> That's what it says on Freenode's site, at least
[23:07] <cheese1756> Don't copy and paste it :p
[23:07] <yekoms> i want to disable wlan0 from loading period. not sure how
[23:07] <cheese1756> Or else the space might be added like before
[23:07] <poyntz> hi all
[23:07] <forever2> Phrogz_: I dont think theres anything wrong with the tarball, it might be a file that wasnt included
[23:07] <Phrogz_> :)
[23:07] <Phrogz_> Konam: Or better yet, /msg nickserve help and rtfm :)
[23:07] <cheese1756> Hi poyntz
[23:07] <poyntz> are graphics drivers the only drivers you can get updates for on ubuntu?
[23:07] <Konam> cheese1756 thanks man
[23:07] <mrkennie> If there's an official ubuntu dev channel, by all means point me to it. I'm looking for a way to get a list of active sessions? I think there was something in gnome 2 using dbus but that has been removed for gnome 3 it seems.
[23:07] <Wargasm> anyone know how to boost my volume... alsa mixer in on max but its still not very loud
[23:07] <cheese1756> Konam, No problem
[23:08] <yekoms> no thoughts?
[23:08] <Konam> damn spaces
[23:08] <acicula> poyntz: just security/important updates
[23:08] <D4rth_B4n3> mongy i had no time to look the link up till now it doesnt say how to connect to one netwirk over wifi with a server box
[23:09] <poyntz> acicula: my mic doesn't work for google voice and i'm getting a really laggy connection (it's working fine on Windows). How can I fix this?
[23:09] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, using /etc/network/interfaces does that.
[23:09] <yekoms> 1539 users an no help :(
[23:09] <acicula> poyntz: does your mic work with any other recording program?
[23:10] <D4rth_B4n3> mongy ok but how i see that i can inable a wifi but how do i connect
[23:10] <kasii>  aint me
[23:10] <yekoms> all i know is the drivers used is the realtek drivers
[23:11] <acicula> yekoms: what happens when you try to connect, is it trying to associate with the access point or does it fail outright?
[23:11] <poyntz> acicula: just tried skype call testing service - whilst it does play back to me my voice, my voice is really distorted and monotone
[23:11] <yekoms> ive been searching for hours
[23:11] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, ok.  I'll paste my config if it helps
[23:11] <yekoms> it loads wlan0 and sets it up, and does nothing for wlan0
[23:11] <mongy> D4rth_B4n3, is yours WPA2?
[23:11] <yekoms> wlan1*
[23:12] <D4rth_B4n3> jep
[23:12] <poyntz> acicula: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M93 [Mobility Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series]
[23:12] <poyntz> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
[23:12] <acicula> poyntz: hmm thats odd, maybe you can change it by adjusting the volume sliders in the sound preferences? if its at max reduce it a bit
[23:12] <poyntz> acicula: impossible to update the driver?
[23:12] <poyntz> acicula: I'm thinking it's one of the above
[23:13] <acicula> poyntz: doubt its the driver itself
[23:13] <poyntz> acicula: I just tried alsamixer, but it doesn't have an option for adjusting mic sound - it just has mic in, line in, etc.
[23:14] <acicula> what about the gnome sound preferences?
[23:14] <poyntz> acicula: i'm on kde
[23:14] <poyntz> acicula: i was hoping it wasn't an interface problem
[23:14] <acicula> err try de kde equivalent?
[23:14] <em> Could someone please tell me the appropriate link to point wget at to download the tsocks package for 64 bit Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[23:15] <acicula> poyntz: honestly if the mic sound is distorted i would think its  because gains/boost are to high, or you mic is recording noise from the speakers etc.
[23:16] <acicula> em: cant install it using apt-get or find an appropriate packaged version on launchpad?
[23:17] <em> acicula: No because I am behind a firewall. I need to install tsocks so I can use apt stuff :)
[23:18] <acicula> em: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[23:18] <em> acicula: I will be able to use dpkg -i once I have the deb.
[23:18] <poyntz> acicula: I'll try asking in kubuntu and see if they can help me. I can see lots of stuff about which device i want to use, not so much about setting audio
[23:18] <FesterJester> Hello all. Quick question. What is the difference between the /etc/init and /etc/init.d folders
[23:18] <poyntz> acicula: i figured it was all tweeted via alsamixer
[23:18] <em> acicula: I cannot browse the internet until I am able to install firefox, I cannot install firefox until I can use apt-get. I cannot use apt-get until I can install tsocks.
[23:19] <dreamy_> hi, can anyoe give me a good link reated to linux and music? i mean music apps?
[23:19] <acicula> FesterJester: one is used by startup, the other by sysinitv style boot systems
[23:19] <dreamy_> or a channe;
[23:19] <cjae> anyone know how to make absinthe (apple jailbreak application) launch on buntu 11.04
[23:19] <dreamy_> channel
[23:19] <em> acicula: I need the link directly to the tsocks deb for 64 bit 11.04. Then I can get it with my remote machine and then copy it here with scp
[23:19] <dreamy_> is linux good with music production?
[23:20] <acerimmer> !ubuntustudio|dreamy_
[23:20] <acerimmer> dreamy_: yes
[23:20] <FesterJester> acicula: so if I create a script for vncserver which folder is it better placed in?
[23:20] <dreamy_> ubuntu studio im familiar..
[23:20] <dreamy_> acerimmer, i got standart linux but i got access to the same packages..
[23:21] <acicula> em: checking fora link
[23:21] <em> acicula: thanks so much.
[23:21] <dreamy_> acerimmer, do you do music production with  linux?
[23:21] <acicula> FesterJester: eh, upstart is the new one, but you will find templates for both systems in the init/init.d directory. eithers fine i suppose
[23:21] <em> acicula: its the tsocksxxx.deb  for 64 bit Ubuntu 11.04
[23:21] <acerimmer> dreamy_: podcasting, not music
[23:22] <acicula> em: amd64?
[23:22] <em> yes
[23:22] <acicula> er nvm :)
[23:22] <dreamy_> k
[23:22] <FesterJester> acicula: thanks much
[23:22] <popey> em: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//pool/universe/t/tsocks/tsocks_1.8beta5-9.1_amd64.deb
[23:22] <dreamy_> acerimmer, but i dont have to install linux studio.. i can get access to the packages
[23:22] <acicula> emL http://ubuntu.wikimedia.org/ubuntu//pool/universe/t/tsocks/tsocks_1.8beta5-9.1_amd64.deb
[23:23] <em> ppetraki: oh thank you.
[23:23] <dreamy_> with my current linux
[23:23] <em> acicula: Oh thank you both.
[23:23] <popey> np
[23:23] <popey> also you could use lynx http://packages.ubuntu.com/tsocks
[23:23] <dreamy_> whats podcasting?
[23:24] <xerxes73> I have two linux boxes connected to a hub (happens to a wireless hub).  One runs Ubuntu another is running Debian.  They both can talk to the internet.  What commands do I run so that I can scp between the two linux boxes?  Thanks!
[23:24] <acicula> scp host1:/path/to/file myfile
[23:24] <acerimmer> dreamy_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast
[23:24] <popey> dreamy_: making audio files and putting them online for people to download and listen to / watch
[23:24] <dreamy_> ok
[23:24] <popey> s/audio/audio and\/or video/
[23:25] <dreamy_> ty for ur atenction
[23:25] <xerxes73> acicula: right now when I do that, I get "No route to host"
[23:26] <acicula> xerxes73: well you need to have setup a working network and routes
[23:26] <dreamy_> !hel
[23:26] <dreamy_> !help
[23:26] <mafatahna> hey guest... can help me about play movie from DVD player (extention .vob) and we have choose a few subtitle include from DVD?
[23:26] <xerxes73> aciculus: cool, what are the commands for that?
[23:26] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: add the host names and ips in /etc/hosts on both boxes
[23:26] <acerimmer> dreamy_: state a specific issue
[23:27] <acicula> xerxes73: are you using the ip of the other host? can you ping the ip even?
[23:27] <mafatahna> can any help me..,
[23:27] <Artarian> Guys anyway to adjust scroll speed on ubuntu?
[23:27] <brerrabbit> do you have to set up bind to run an ubuntu vps?
[23:27] <xerxes73> bastidrazor: okay, and I get the ips from running ifconfig on both?  or do I se them somehow?
[23:27] <mafatahna> i try use vlc and totem don't can
[23:27] <acicula> brerrabbit: no
[23:27] <xerxes73> acicula: no i can't ping between them but I can ping things like www.slashdot.org from both
[23:28] <brerrabbit> acicule: Even if the vps is it's own nameserver?
[23:28] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: ifconfig will give you the ip's of each.
[23:28] <xerxes73> i haven't done anything to set up the ips or anything like that so I really haven't done anything to set them up
[23:28] <xerxes73> can i run a command to do this manually before I modify /etc/hosts just to see if this will work?
[23:29] <Artarian> Guys anyway to adjust scroll speed on ubuntu????
[23:29] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: if your ip's are dynamically given by your access point then setting them in /etc/hosts will be pointless.
[23:29] <pinesandblueberr> Hi
[23:29] <pinesandblueberr> I need some help with code.
[23:29] <brerrabbit> member:acicula: Even if the vps is it's own nameserver?
[23:30] <pinesandblueberr> How do i add libs to mingw?
[23:30] <xerxes73> bastidrazor: okay, so do i just look at ipconfig and see what they are set to on each.  Another thing is that i have some documentation for one of the boxes (it is an embedded board) and it says that eth0 is 192.168.0.50 and to talk to it, it says set your host to be 192.168.0.51 (the embedded board being the target vs the host).  But this doesn't make any sense to me
[23:31] <acicula> brerrabbit: either you use the dns server of whoever is registering your domain name or you provide your own
[23:31] <xerxes73> To get both boxes to talk to the internet I issued a "dhclient eth0" command
[23:32] <acicula> pinesandblueberr: you are trying to install mingw ?
[23:33] <pinesandblueberr> acicula: i am trying to compile cpp with lua in mingw
[23:33] <brerrabbit> acicula: the hosting provider for the vps, provided 2 nameservers which have the same ip as my server...no additional configuration is required?
[23:33] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: use ifconfig on each to get the ip. use the ip in the scp command.
[23:34] <brerrabbit> acicula: the ubuntu server guide isn't terribly illuminating on this matter
[23:34] <FesterJester> Next question. How do I create a dynamic hostname in my custom live cd
[23:35] <acicula> FesterJester: you set it at boot, or get it from dhcp
[23:35] <Artarian> Guys anyway to adjust scroll speed on ubuntu????
[23:35] <acicula> brerrabbit: that means for any subdomains for your domain a dns server is expected on that ip
[23:36] <acicula> pinesandblueberr: maybe try the mingw channel on this server ?
[23:36] <FesterJester> How do I do that without using a custom script?
[23:36] <acicula> Artarian: maybe you can adjust it in the mouse settings?
[23:36] <pinesandblueberr> no one in there acicula
[23:36] <brerrabbit> acicula: so, that means bind.
[23:37] <Artarian> acicula, thanks for good will but there is no such thing
[23:37] <acicula> Artarian: under system->preferences ?
[23:37] <xerxes73> bastidrazor: I got it to work.  Thanks.
[23:38] <Artarian> acicula, there is a mouse settings but you cant fchange the scroll speed there
[23:38] <acicula> brerrabbit: yup, or get your subdomains registered with the same registrar
[23:38] <acicula> Artarian: i see, then i dont know, sorry
[23:38] <brerrabbit> Acicula.  Great!   Thank you for the illumination.
[23:39] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: ubuntu will broadcast its hostname on the local network. from the debian box use your ubuntuHostname.local to access it regardless of the ubuntu IP
[23:39] <acicula> pinesandblueberr: hmm well 31 people is not nobody, but i dont think you will have much luck here either. maybe mingw has a support mailing list or forum you can try?
[23:40] <xerxes73> Basitidrazor: is there a way I can get one of my boxes to connect to the internet (which I do with dhclient eth0) and have the address 192.168.0.50.  It seems that if I set the address with ifconfig than it can no longer connect to the internet....?
[23:40] <acicula> FesterJester: no idea
[23:40] <damo22> anyone want to try my MIDI Alsa peer to peer client on ubuntu?
[23:41] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: if your access point or router hands out that ip to it, then yes.
[23:43] <xerxes73> bastidrazor: I realize these questions are pretty dumb on my part I just don't get it yet.....so I would ask my access point or router to give me 192.168.0.50?
[23:43] <damo22> his router doesnt have to give out the address, it can be static
[23:43] <FesterJester> acicula: I have already wrote a script that will change the hostname, but it will not take effect until I reboot. Any idea on how to make it work on first boot?
[23:43] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: you would set a static ip for your box based on your MAC, you will set all this in your router
[23:44] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: i'm assuming your router is your dhcp server
[23:44] <acicula> FesterJester: i think you can just use service hostname restart to make the changed hostname take effect
[23:44] <damo22> so long as the subnet and netmask matches between the router and the machine, the router doesnt have to give out the ip, the local machine can set its own ip and still use the router as a gateway
[23:45] <xerxes73> bastidrazor: I don't know it is a netgear wireless router with a hub.....so what that is i don't know
[23:45] <bastidrazor> !hostname | FesterJester
[23:45] <eoss> there any program in ubuntu similar to that in cisco routers dealing with access lists for network firewall
[23:46] <killeroflove> I need help
[23:46] <killeroflove> x.x
[23:46] <acerimmer> killeroflove: state the issue
[23:46] <killeroflove> I cant get XChat to install on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx
[23:47] <acerimmer> killeroflove: alternatives?  chatzilla plugin to firefox works great.
[23:48] <bastidrazor> killeroflove: how did you try to install it?
[23:48] <killeroflove> using the website
[23:49] <bastidrazor> xerxes73: unless you've made changes, your router hands out ip's when you connect
[23:49] <bastidrazor> killeroflove:  use synaptic
[23:49] <killeroflove> Its not on the synaptic
[23:49] <killeroflove> I have looked for it
[23:49] <killeroflove> This is the first time i have had trouble with it
[23:50]  * D4rth_B4n3 is away: try it again later
[23:50] <killeroflove> And im down grading from SlackWare 13.1 to Ubuntu
[23:50] <killeroflove> Im on irssi atm
[23:50] <bastidrazor> !find xchat lucid | killeroflove
[23:50] <bobo37773> killeroflove: It should be in the repos
[23:51] <bobo37773> killeroflove: Try -->    sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:51] <ishikawa> killeroflove: that certainly is a downgrade
[23:51] <bobo37773> hahaha
[23:52] <bobo37773> ishikawa: Because its Lucid?
[23:54] <spacebug-> when dash is open is there a way to only use the keybord to go to the filter section and also to unfold things like "see 182 more results" (installed apps) ?
[23:55] <bastidrazor> spacebug-: use the arrows to navigate then press enter
[23:55] <spacebug-> bastidrazor: does not work for that
[23:56] <killeroflove> i got it now
[23:56] <killeroflove> I forgot to restart synaptic
[23:56] <killeroflove> :/
[23:56] <killeroflove> How do you switch channels on irssi?
[23:56] <sunredsky> Alt+<channel number>
[23:56] <killeroflove> Ah
[23:57] <killeroflove> That makes more sense
[23:57] <killeroflove> and can you join more than one servers with irssi?
[23:57] <killeroflove> im not used to irssi
[23:57] <spacebug-> bastidrazor: it seems to work for some things, like folders and recent files but not for installed apps. And the filter section never works
[23:57] <sunredsky> yes
[23:57] <brerrabbit> is there a gui you can install for web-based server administration? something like cPanel?
[23:58] <killeroflove> how would you do that sunredsky
[23:58] <spacebug-> killeroflove: /connect your.ser.ver
[23:59] <sunredsky> spacebug beat me to the enter key
[23:59] <spacebug-> :D