len | install bug #922907 has already been entered by someone else | 01:44 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922907 | 01:44 |
len | I confirmed it as affecting me too. | 01:44 |
len | I think it affects all ubuntu... Another network setup error. | 01:47 |
ailo | Another detail that ubiquity forgets is to ask for where to install the boot loader | 02:34 |
ailo | Not a deal breaker, since on Linux systems with grub2 you can easily do: sudo grub-install sda | 02:35 |
ailo | If you want another system to be default | 02:35 |
ailo | It's a little worrying that ubiquity doesn't care about yes/no for deb packages (like jack) | 02:37 |
ailo | I guess it force installs | 02:37 |
holstein | with yes though right? | 02:37 |
holstein | or wahtever we tell it to? | 02:37 |
holstein | no reason *not* to do it "yes" now | 02:37 |
holstein | since jack wont fail anymore | 02:37 |
ailo | For US it doesn't matter in a way, but it's interesting that it works thisway | 02:38 |
ailo | All though, it might be important to include all the info on what packages you are automatically saying yes to, before installing | 02:39 |
ailo | For jack, I don't know if it's that important | 02:40 |
ailo | But, when it comes to license issues, it might be different | 02:40 |
len | Jack does not seem to be installed real time. Where the boot loader gets installed does matter, but you can choose that, along with how the partitions are set up. | 04:58 |
holstein | len: you dont think its just the kernel? | 04:58 |
holstein | how can we tell? | 04:58 |
holstein | i suppose you can add abogani's ppa to a fresh install and test that way... | 04:59 |
len | The jack logs while it is running seem to say no real time | 04:59 |
holstein | not you personally, just in general | 04:59 |
holstein | i have an install i can test on soon | 04:59 |
len | It seems with the partition setup, either one chooses to let the installer do it or you are totally on your own with no guidance at all. | 05:03 |
holstein | len: seems like you can really get in there though | 05:03 |
holstein | i dont see anything that i need the alternate for | 05:04 |
holstein | maybe *not* installing grub? | 05:04 |
len | It at least so far has put grub on the same drive as the install. | 05:05 |
holstein | yeah, there used to be an advanced button | 05:06 |
len | there still is a button that does that still... but it doesn't explain itself well. | 05:12 |
ScottL | it would appear that the 64bit version of the live-dvd on jan 26 had some trouble building | 15:44 |
ScottL | and i just had ubiqutity fail on xubuntu install that i downloaded last night | 15:44 |
astraljava | Just now came the CD Image mail, seems python-dbus, libgtk-3-common and language-selector-common were having some problems. I wonder, though, why it's two days late with the emails. | 15:57 |
astraljava | But, on the other hand, today's build hasn't started, yet. | 16:00 |
len | ScottL: The ubiquity Fail has already been entered as a bug report, bug #922907 | 16:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922907 | 16:34 |
len | As it affects ubuntu desktop, I expect it will get fixed quick. | 16:35 |
len | Is there a way in the seeds or metas to force or specify answers to package install questions? | 16:52 |
astraljava | len: That's possible via pre-seeding. What did you have in mind? | 16:59 |
astraljava | len: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization#Writing_the_preseed_file | 17:00 |
ailo | len: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either | 18:34 |
ailo | So, it's on purpose | 18:34 |
ailo | Jack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime | 18:34 |
ailo | jack does not administer group membership | 18:35 |
ailo | That is a job for US | 18:35 |
ailo | len: I just wrote some messages to you | 18:35 |
ailo | len_: Did you miss them? | 18:36 |
len_ | Might have... | 18:36 |
ailo | len: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either | 18:36 |
ailo | <ailo> So, it's on purpose | 18:36 |
ailo | <ailo> Jack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime | 18:36 |
ailo | <ailo> jack does not administer group membership | 18:36 |
ailo | <ailo> That is a job for US | 18:36 |
len_ | Ok, but, then how come even with group audio after the us install jackd complains about no rt? | 18:37 |
ailo | len_: Did you look in /etc/security/limits.d/* and make sure those files are set up right? | 18:38 |
ailo | US renames audio.conf to audio.conf.disabled | 18:38 |
ailo | You might want to remove the US file and rename audio.conf.disabled back to audio.conf | 18:39 |
ailo | Also, make sure to reboot after any changes | 18:39 |
len_ | I haven't but I don't know what to look for. Also I can't till I can install again... The iso doesn'tinstall right now. | 18:39 |
len_ | There is no new iso today. | 18:40 |
len_ | At least so far. | 18:40 |
ailo | What worries me is that ubiquity does not care about letting users be able answer y/n to post install scripts | 18:41 |
ailo | Don't know if that is intentional | 18:41 |
ailo | Well, it's not really that troubling I guess, since we do want jack installed by default anyway | 18:42 |
ailo | It's just that the distro maintainers need to be aware of how ubiquity differs from a regular install | 18:42 |
len_ | We can always have a script that sets rt if we have to... after first boot if not during install. | 18:43 |
ailo | len_: In my install I only have audio.conf.disabled | 18:44 |
len_ | I agree we can work with what there is. Having the live DVD is better than the alt anyway. | 18:45 |
ailo | Which is strange | 18:45 |
ailo | The file needs to be named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 18:45 |
ailo | That and being a member of audio group is enough to get rt privilege | 18:45 |
len_ | Mine was the same when I had one that installed | 18:45 |
ailo | len_: Inside that file you have two lines that need to be uncommented (which they are) | 18:47 |
ailo | @audio - rtprio 95 | 18:47 |
ailo | @audio - memlock unlimited | 18:47 |
ailo | Gotta go | 18:47 |
ailo | Beer sample emptying party tonight | 18:47 |
len_ | I would use the old one but there have been changes made since then. We are waiting for a new iso to what has changed... C U | 18:47 |
len_ | Have a mug for me. | 18:48 |
ailo | len_: I'll have a few even | 18:50 |
len_ | I have a question... bug #919767 affects the US project as well as brasero. There seems to be a link to add an it affects this project too. but when I go there, the questions don't make sense. | 19:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 919767 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero stays in memory after use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919767 | 19:38 |
len_ | Also, Would it help if bugs that are new get confirmed? There are a number of bugs that I have put in for this project that are just listed as new. | 19:40 |
ScottL | one reason that the liveFS emails comes late is because it is not on the subscribed to the mailing list and i (or the other person) have to approve them | 19:41 |
ScottL | and i don't always check every day | 19:41 |
ScottL | i think i can add them to the mailing list but i have to dig for an email to find a link and then finger my way through there | 19:41 |
ScottL | and i just haven't done it yet | 19:41 |
len_ | Having more than one person saying this bug affects them may get them more attention. | 19:42 |
len_ | It appears todays iso didn't get made either. | 19:46 |
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