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leninstall bug #922907  has already been entered by someone else01:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92290701:44
lenI confirmed it as affecting me too.01:44
lenI think it affects all ubuntu... Another network setup error.01:47
ailoAnother detail that ubiquity forgets is to ask for where to install the boot loader02:34
ailoNot a deal breaker, since on Linux systems with grub2 you can easily do: sudo grub-install sda02:35
ailoIf you want another system to be default02:35
ailoIt's a little worrying that ubiquity doesn't care about yes/no for deb packages (like jack)02:37
ailoI guess it force installs02:37
holsteinwith yes though right?02:37
holsteinor wahtever we tell it to?02:37
holsteinno reason *not* to do it "yes" now02:37
holsteinsince jack wont fail anymore02:37
ailoFor US it doesn't matter in a way, but it's interesting that it works thisway02:38
ailoAll though, it might be important to include all the info on what packages you are automatically saying yes to, before installing02:39
ailoFor jack, I don't know if it's that important02:40
ailoBut, when it comes to license issues, it might be different02:40
lenJack does not seem to be installed real time. Where the boot loader gets installed does matter, but you can choose that, along with how the partitions are set up.04:58
holsteinlen: you dont think its just the kernel?04:58
holsteinhow can we tell?04:58
holsteini suppose you can add abogani's ppa to a fresh install and test that way...04:59
lenThe jack logs while it is running seem to say no real time 04:59
holsteinnot you personally, just in general04:59
holsteini have an install i can test on soon04:59
lenIt seems with the partition setup, either one chooses to let the installer do it or you are totally on your own with no guidance at all.05:03
holsteinlen: seems like you can really get in there though05:03
holsteini dont see anything that i need the alternate for05:04
holsteinmaybe *not* installing grub?05:04
lenIt at least so far has put grub on the same drive as the install.05:05
holsteinyeah, there used to be an advanced button05:06
lenthere still is a button that does that still... but it doesn't explain itself well.05:12
ScottLit would appear that the 64bit version of the live-dvd on jan 26 had some trouble building15:44
ScottLand i just had ubiqutity fail on xubuntu install that i downloaded last night15:44
astraljavaJust now came the CD Image mail, seems python-dbus, libgtk-3-common and language-selector-common were having some problems. I wonder, though, why it's two days late with the emails.15:57
astraljavaBut, on the other hand, today's build hasn't started, yet.16:00
lenScottL: The ubiquity Fail has already been entered as a bug report, bug #92290716:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92290716:34
lenAs it affects ubuntu desktop, I expect it will get fixed quick.16:35
lenIs there a way in the seeds or metas to force or specify answers to package install questions?16:52
astraljavalen: That's possible via pre-seeding. What did you have in mind?16:59
astraljavalen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization#Writing_the_preseed_file17:00
ailolen: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either18:34
ailoSo, it's on purpose18:34
ailoJack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime18:34
ailojack does not administer group membership18:35
ailoThat is a job for US18:35
ailolen: I just wrote some messages to you18:35
ailolen_: Did you miss them?18:36
len_Might have...18:36
ailolen: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either18:36
ailo<ailo> So, it's on purpose18:36
ailo<ailo> Jack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime18:36
ailo<ailo> jack does not administer group membership18:36
ailo<ailo> That is a job for US18:36
len_Ok, but, then how come even with group audio after the us install jackd complains about no rt?18:37
ailolen_: Did you look in /etc/security/limits.d/* and make sure those files are set up right?18:38
ailoUS renames audio.conf to audio.conf.disabled18:38
ailoYou might want to remove the US file and rename audio.conf.disabled back to audio.conf18:39
ailoAlso, make sure to reboot after any changes18:39
len_I haven't but I don't know what to look for. Also I can't till I can install again... The iso doesn'tinstall right now.18:39
len_There is no new iso today.18:40
len_At least so far.18:40
ailoWhat worries me is that ubiquity does not care about letting users be able answer y/n to post install scripts18:41
ailoDon't know if that is intentional18:41
ailoWell, it's not really that troubling I guess, since we do want jack installed by default anyway18:42
ailoIt's just that the distro maintainers need to be aware of how ubiquity differs from a regular install18:42
len_We can always have a script that sets rt if we have to... after first boot if not during install.18:43
ailolen_: In my install I only have audio.conf.disabled18:44
len_I agree we can work with what there is. Having the live DVD is better than the alt anyway.18:45
ailoWhich is strange18:45
ailoThe file needs to be named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf18:45
ailoThat and being a member of audio group is enough to get rt privilege18:45
len_Mine was the same when I had one that installed18:45
ailolen_: Inside that file you have two lines that need to be uncommented (which they are)18:47
ailo@audio   -  rtprio     9518:47
ailo@audio   -  memlock    unlimited18:47
ailoGotta go18:47
ailoBeer sample emptying party tonight18:47
len_I would use the old one but there have been changes made since then. We are waiting for a new iso to what has changed... C U18:47
len_Have a mug for me.18:48
ailolen_: I'll have a few even18:50
len_I have a question... bug #919767 affects the US project as well as brasero. There seems to be a link to add an it affects this project too. but when I go there, the questions don't make sense.19:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 919767 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero stays in memory after use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91976719:38
len_Also, Would it help if bugs that are new get confirmed? There are a number of bugs that I have put in for this project that are just listed as new.19:40
ScottLone reason that the liveFS emails comes late is because it is not on the subscribed to the mailing list and i (or the other person) have to approve them19:41
ScottLand i don't always check every day19:41
ScottLi think i can add them to the mailing list but i have to dig for an email to find a link and then finger my way through there19:41
ScottLand i just haven't done it yet19:41
len_Having more than one person saying this bug affects them may get them more attention.19:42
len_It appears todays iso didn't get made either.19:46

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