[01:44] install bug #922907 has already been entered by someone else [01:44] Launchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922907 [01:44] I confirmed it as affecting me too. [01:47] I think it affects all ubuntu... Another network setup error. [02:34] Another detail that ubiquity forgets is to ask for where to install the boot loader [02:35] Not a deal breaker, since on Linux systems with grub2 you can easily do: sudo grub-install sda [02:35] If you want another system to be default [02:37] It's a little worrying that ubiquity doesn't care about yes/no for deb packages (like jack) [02:37] I guess it force installs [02:37] with yes though right? [02:37] or wahtever we tell it to? [02:37] no reason *not* to do it "yes" now [02:37] since jack wont fail anymore [02:38] For US it doesn't matter in a way, but it's interesting that it works thisway [02:39] All though, it might be important to include all the info on what packages you are automatically saying yes to, before installing [02:40] For jack, I don't know if it's that important [02:40] But, when it comes to license issues, it might be different [04:58] Jack does not seem to be installed real time. Where the boot loader gets installed does matter, but you can choose that, along with how the partitions are set up. [04:58] len: you dont think its just the kernel? [04:58] how can we tell? [04:59] i suppose you can add abogani's ppa to a fresh install and test that way... [04:59] The jack logs while it is running seem to say no real time [04:59] not you personally, just in general [04:59] i have an install i can test on soon [05:03] It seems with the partition setup, either one chooses to let the installer do it or you are totally on your own with no guidance at all. [05:03] len: seems like you can really get in there though [05:04] i dont see anything that i need the alternate for [05:04] maybe *not* installing grub? [05:05] It at least so far has put grub on the same drive as the install. [05:06] yeah, there used to be an advanced button [05:12] there still is a button that does that still... but it doesn't explain itself well. [15:44] it would appear that the 64bit version of the live-dvd on jan 26 had some trouble building [15:44] and i just had ubiqutity fail on xubuntu install that i downloaded last night [15:57] Just now came the CD Image mail, seems python-dbus, libgtk-3-common and language-selector-common were having some problems. I wonder, though, why it's two days late with the emails. [16:00] But, on the other hand, today's build hasn't started, yet. [16:34] ScottL: The ubiquity Fail has already been entered as a bug report, bug #922907 [16:34] Launchpad bug 922907 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed towards the end... Ubuntu 12.04 alpha nightly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922907 [16:35] As it affects ubuntu desktop, I expect it will get fixed quick. [16:52] Is there a way in the seeds or metas to force or specify answers to package install questions? [16:59] len: That's possible via pre-seeding. What did you have in mind? [17:00] len: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization#Writing_the_preseed_file [18:34] len: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either [18:34] So, it's on purpose [18:34] Jack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime [18:35] jack does not administer group membership [18:35] That is a job for US [18:35] len: I just wrote some messages to you [18:36] len_: Did you miss them? [18:36] Might have... [18:36] len: Ubiquity doesn't ask about the boot loader on a regular Ubuntu install either [18:36] So, it's on purpose [18:36] Jack installs normally, as if you had answered yes to realtime [18:36] jack does not administer group membership [18:36] That is a job for US [18:37] Ok, but, then how come even with group audio after the us install jackd complains about no rt? [18:38] len_: Did you look in /etc/security/limits.d/* and make sure those files are set up right? [18:38] US renames audio.conf to audio.conf.disabled [18:39] You might want to remove the US file and rename audio.conf.disabled back to audio.conf [18:39] Also, make sure to reboot after any changes [18:39] I haven't but I don't know what to look for. Also I can't till I can install again... The iso doesn'tinstall right now. [18:40] There is no new iso today. [18:40] At least so far. [18:41] What worries me is that ubiquity does not care about letting users be able answer y/n to post install scripts [18:41] Don't know if that is intentional [18:42] Well, it's not really that troubling I guess, since we do want jack installed by default anyway [18:42] It's just that the distro maintainers need to be aware of how ubiquity differs from a regular install [18:43] We can always have a script that sets rt if we have to... after first boot if not during install. [18:44] len_: In my install I only have audio.conf.disabled [18:45] I agree we can work with what there is. Having the live DVD is better than the alt anyway. [18:45] Which is strange [18:45] The file needs to be named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf [18:45] That and being a member of audio group is enough to get rt privilege [18:45] Mine was the same when I had one that installed [18:47] len_: Inside that file you have two lines that need to be uncommented (which they are) [18:47] @audio - rtprio 95 [18:47] @audio - memlock unlimited [18:47] Gotta go [18:47] Beer sample emptying party tonight [18:47] I would use the old one but there have been changes made since then. We are waiting for a new iso to what has changed... C U [18:48] Have a mug for me. [18:50] len_: I'll have a few even [19:38] I have a question... bug #919767 affects the US project as well as brasero. There seems to be a link to add an it affects this project too. but when I go there, the questions don't make sense. [19:38] Launchpad bug 919767 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero stays in memory after use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919767 [19:40] Also, Would it help if bugs that are new get confirmed? There are a number of bugs that I have put in for this project that are just listed as new. [19:41] one reason that the liveFS emails comes late is because it is not on the subscribed to the mailing list and i (or the other person) have to approve them [19:41] and i don't always check every day [19:41] i think i can add them to the mailing list but i have to dig for an email to find a link and then finger my way through there [19:41] and i just haven't done it yet [19:42] Having more than one person saying this bug affects them may get them more attention. [19:46] It appears todays iso didn't get made either.