[00:00] <fanat> ok.
[00:01] <fanat> but how i can boot on CD?
[00:01] <fanat> file inside ISO image is not multiboot
[00:02] <fanat> may be i can start install from CD use console comand?
[00:02] <acerimmer> fanat: have you burned a CD of ubuntu iso??
[00:02] <fanat> yes
[00:03] <fanat> he is inside CD-ROM
[00:03] <acerimmer> reboot.  for a few seconds you'll see something like
[00:03] <fanat> and i see GRUB list on monitor
[00:03] <acerimmer> Press F2 for boot options
[00:03] <acerimmer> Press that and you'll go into the bios.
[00:03] <fanat> i know how boot from CD
[00:04] <fanat> but not booting!
[00:04] <acerimmer> fanat: the CD won't boot??
[00:04] <fanat> yes!
[00:05] <acerimmer> 3 possibilities...
[00:05] <acerimmer> bad iso
[00:05] <acerimmer> good iso, bad cd
[00:05] <acerimmer> cd can't be read by ubuntu
[00:05] <fanat> iso downloaded from official site
[00:06] <fanat> good iso
[00:06] <acerimmer> fanat: doesn't matter WHERE, what matters is was the transfer good and 100%
[00:06] <fanat> hm..
[00:06] <acerimmer> fanat: in other words, confirm with the md5sum check - ALWAYS
[00:06] <fanat> ok, i understand
[00:07] <fanat> man
[00:07] <fanat> i try ctrl+alt+F1 and monitor is work
[00:07] <fanat> but i work in comand shell
[00:08] <fanat> i logon the system
[00:08] <acerimmer> IF it's a good iso, I'd say it's just a matter of configuring the graphics card.
[00:09] <fanat> can you help me?
[00:09] <fanat> configuring my card
[00:09] <acerimmer> fanat: looking...
[00:11] <fanat> can i update or upgrade soft now from internet?
[00:11] <acerimmer> fanat: yes from command line: sudo apt-get update
[00:13] <fanat> just several minutes please... i need LAN cable on another port ..
[00:13] <ickefes> hi guys. i have tried to install wineasio but not suceeded but reaper detects one "WineAsio" and one "Wine Asio". How do I remove these? I have uninstalled wineasio in synaptic already.
[00:14] <acerimmer> ickefes: IIRC it should be: sudo apt-get purge WineAsio
[00:14] <ickefes> thanks acerimmer. i will try that and get back to you
[00:14] <acerimmer> fanat: do you EVER seet the bootsplash??  https://odzangba.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ubuntu_10_10_plymouth_splash_by_internauta2000.png
[00:15] <acerimmer> fanat: or a login screen?  http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KN7Lm3BJp7k/TGzDNHG9BFI/AAAAAAAAAH4/zR89CV-4f4U/ubuntu-login%5B3%5D.jpg
[00:16] <fanat_1> fanat in use )))
[00:16] <fanat_1> network is not working
[00:17] <fanat_1> may be i can this from CD?
[00:17] <falktx> lol, network is notworking
[00:17] <ickefes> it was unable to locate the WineAsio package but still I see "WineAsio Driver" and "Wine Asio Driver" in Reaper.
[00:17] <acerimmer> fanat_1: try
[00:18] <acerimmer> ickefes: radical surgery: sudo apt-get purge wine*
[00:18] <ickefes> doesn't it remove wine too then?
[00:18] <acerimmer> ickefes: will kill ALL the wine!
[00:18] <acerimmer> ickefes: but then you should get a clean re-install
[00:18] <ickefes> hm... :)
[00:18] <ickefes> ok
[00:19] <acerimmer> *dear old dad* It's free advice son and worth every penny!
[00:28] <fanat_1> yeah...
[00:28] <fanat_1> system is work
[00:29] <fanat_1> but i need graphic interface
[00:29] <fanat_1> and i have command line only
[00:29] <fanat_1> what is wrong?
[00:30] <acerimmer> fanat_1: graphic card settings most likely
[00:30] <acerimmer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[11:39] <plusEV> hi. downloaded US 11,10 with the XFCE ui and I did not like it at all. Then I installed US 11.04 andI do love this UI. But after a fresh install of that I get asked to update to ubuntu 11.10. If I update this, will I then get the  XFCE ui that I do not like?
[11:41] <plusEV> anyone? :/
[11:44] <astraljava> plusEV: Yes, that is correct.
[11:44] <astraljava> plusEV: The reason for the change was that GNOME 2 was obsoleted by upstream, so we couldn't use that as the DE anymore.
[11:45] <plusEV> allright so I should stay away from that update button then i guess
[11:45] <plusEV> thx
[11:46] <astraljava> As you wish. However, that release won't be supported anymore when 12.10 comes out, so you'll end up with the Xfce anyway, if you continue using Ubuntu Studio (for which I thank you, anyhow :)
[11:47] <petrov> hi need help with update
[11:47] <plusEV> Its not that I hate it. It just did not want to play a long with my shitty laptop
[11:47] <astraljava> plusEV: What problems were you facing?
[11:47] <astraljava> !ask > petrov
[11:48] <plusEV> I do not remember becuuse I have tried like 10 different distros the last 24h ;)
[11:49] <astraljava> Heheh. :)
[11:50] <petrov> ok so enybody can help me? i have problems with updating my ubuntu
[11:50] <astraljava> plusEV: There's a new LTS release coming out in April, which uses Xfce as the DE. It's also going to be the first live-dvd. I suggest you try it out when it's more stable, so you can compare against 11.04.
[11:51] <astraljava> petrov: We can't help unless you give us a description of your problem.
[11:51] <plusEV> I love sounds good. I will probably use this until april then.
[11:51] <plusEV> reason
[11:51] <plusEV> because it works :)
[11:52] <plusEV> -i love
[11:52] <astraljava> Yeah, why break it when there's no reason to do so. :)
[11:52] <astraljava> But eventually you'll have to.
[11:52] <plusEV> true true
[11:54] <petrov> ok, i have 11.04 ubuntu, when i am making sudo apt-get update i have problems with that like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/819902/
[11:55] <petrov> and more http://paste.ubuntu.com/819903/
[11:55] <astraljava> petrov: Please also pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file, you've got old entries in there.
[11:55] <astraljava> petrov: Specifically, dapper.
[11:55] <astraljava> Also maverick.
[11:56] <petrov> how to see my sources.list file
[11:56] <petrov> ?
[11:57] <astraljava> petrov: Open up an editor, then open that file. When it's open, press Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c to copy it to the clipboard.
[11:57] <petrov> oh, right... :X
[11:58] <astraljava> petrov: Also, if you're not very accustomed to linux, nor ubuntu, I'd suggest disabling the use of backports. There's always an elevated risk of problems with them.
[11:58] <petrov> but how to make this ?
[11:59] <astraljava> petrov: By removing the relevant entries in that file.
[11:59] <astraljava> petrov: First pastebin that file, I will then modify it so it suits your purposes better.
[11:59] <petrov> okeey
[12:00] <petrov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819908/ here u go
[12:01] <astraljava> Ok, I'm on it. Sit tight. :)
[12:02] <petrov> :) ok
[12:02] <astraljava> Err... no, I didn't want a listing of that directory. I need the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:03] <petrov> ok, w8 sec
[12:04] <petrov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819913/  sry for my lame :P
[12:05] <astraljava> No worries. :)
[12:07] <astraljava> petrov: I can fix this, but just how did you end up with this setup? Is that really the whole of the file? There's nothing referring to natty in there.
[12:08] <petrov> you see
[12:09] <petrov> i am a newbie linux user and just installed ubuntu 11.04 thats all
[12:09] <petrov> long time no update because that problem
[12:10] <astraljava> petrov: Are you saying you installed Ubuntu 11.04 yourself? And ended up with that setup? Where did you get the install disc?
[12:10] <petrov> ubuntu.com
[12:10] <astraljava> petrov: That's a very, _very_ unusual setup, and highly questionable if I might add, even.
[12:10] <petrov> i installed it from pendrive
[12:11] <astraljava> That's impossible, the official release wouldn't contain such a sources.list file. You have had to replace that since. Like I said, we can fix that, but I'm a little concerned what problems will emerge when you update.
[12:13] <petrov> actually i did few months ago a update
[12:13] <petrov> nothing more
[12:15] <astraljava> Still, that doesn't explain this weird file. Well, here's a new file. You can backup the one you have now, but I'm already warning you, after you `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, your system could very well be severely damaged. We can of course try and work out the kinks, but a fresh install may have to be done, so back up all important data IMMEDIATELY!
[12:15] <astraljava> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819923/
[12:20] <petrov> astraljava,  i dont know
[12:20] <astraljava> Ok. What editor do you use? What did you use to get the output of that file?
[12:21] <petrov> gedit editor
[12:22] <astraljava> Ok. When you need to write to system files (use precaution!), you can open an editor like this `gksudo gedit <filename>`, without the backticks of course.
[12:22] <astraljava> That happens in a terminal, of course.
[12:22] <astraljava> So, in this case, you have to open up a terminal, and type `gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list`
[12:22] <astraljava> Again, without the backticks.
[12:23] <astraljava> Well, they won't hurt, but they're redundant.
[12:23] <astraljava> ...in this case.
[12:24] <petrov> i have it now
[12:25] <petrov> saved
[12:25] <astraljava> And have you backed up all your data?
[12:26] <petrov> almost done
[12:27] <astraljava> Ok, let me know when you're done.
[12:27] <petrov> almost done/
[12:27] <petrov> what bad can happened when it wont work ?
[12:28] <petrov> ok i have all backed up
[12:29] <astraljava> Some packages might not install correctly, there could be weird chains of dependencies etc.
[12:29] <petrov> astraljava, all done
[12:29] <astraljava> Alright. If you're sure nothing valuable will be lost if your system will not be functional after this, you can do in terminal `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[12:30] <petrov> downloading stuff
[12:32] <astraljava> It will take some time. If there are problems, you can pastebin them right away and then just link to that in here. I'm going to be AFK for a little bit, but will check back every once in a while.
[12:32] <petrov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/819934/
[12:33]  * petrov afk
[12:34]  * petroV_AFK petrov
[12:36] <astraljava> petrov: There's really no need for those. If you stay online, and people address you, they will realize that you're AFK if you don't respond in a timely manner. :)
[12:36] <petrov> :) undastood
[12:37] <petrov> diferent room different rules :)
[12:38] <petrov> btw how old are you?
[12:38] <astraljava> petrov: Yeah. In here, it's not that big a deal, but it's better not to get too used to that, cause in more crowded channels, that just creates unnecessary cruft.
[12:38] <astraljava> 34. You?
[12:39] <petrov> 22
[12:39] <petrov> funny, just yersterday i've met a 15 yers old kid how helped me out with some problems :)
[12:40] <petrov> and what do you do for the living? :)
[12:40] <astraljava> Yeah, there's all sorts in the *buntu community. We had once a prodigy here, just barely in his teens. Some people learn this stuff early.
[12:40] <astraljava> I'm a software developer, currently in mobile field.
[12:41] <petrov> cool, what kind of software
[12:42] <astraljava> Mostly middleware or backend stuff.
[12:42] <petrov> i am studying law btw
[12:42] <astraljava> Oh good. We (as the FOSS community) could use a lawyer to sort out the licensing stuff. :D
[12:44] <petrov> :)
[12:44] <petrov> things will mess up with ACTA...
[12:45] <astraljava> Potentially so.
[12:46] <astraljava> Alright, I'm going to be a little preoccupied from now on (watching a movie). I'll check back every once in a while, though. But please be patient, there are other people here, and for this kind of stuff you can ask for support on #ubuntu, too. It is by no means Studio-specific.
[19:08] <HazRPG> hey all \o
[19:12] <HazRPG> I've got a question, having trouble with my audio in ubuntu - i.e. I have no sound, so far I've tried upgrading to 11.10 (from 10.10->11.04->11.10), during upgrading I found that jackd was possibly the culprit... so I removed it, plus apps that needed it, however I still have no sound... don't know what to do now
[19:12] <HazRPG> can someone help me?
[20:28] <holstein> HazRPG: its got nothing to do with JACK
[20:29] <holstein> jack is not running unless you ask it to run
[20:29] <holstein> you can just try the normal ubuntu LIVE though and confirm that
[20:29] <holstein> sometimes i use live CD's and just hop around until something "Just Works"
[20:30] <holstein> HazRPG: you can open a terminal and run lspci (asuming this is an internal sound card)
[20:30] <holstein> you can output that here in a pastebin and i can help search for problems relating to your particulaor hardware
[20:30] <holstein> particular*
[20:30] <holstein> HOWEVER... first thing i would do.. open a terminal and run
[20:31] <holstein> aplay -l
[20:31] <holstein> then.. arecord -l
[20:31] <holstein> if you see output there, then you *should* be getting sound, and its likely just something with the UI
[21:58] <plusEV> most chill OS evar, and have not looked at the audio programs yet. :)11.04 ftw.
[21:59] <acerimmer> plusEV: glad you like.
[22:05] <plusEV> I have windows 7 on a pro computer. It wont break my win instal if i try install dual boot on that?
[22:05] <plusEV> :>
[22:06] <plusEV> 99% guaranteed right? :)
[22:06] <acerimmer> plusEV: not if installed properly.  I triple boot so I might be able to advise
[22:06] <plusEV> ok lets download 64 bit on that then. :)
[22:06] <acerimmer> plusEV: I see you're looking at 11.04.  suggest you go with 10.04.
[22:07] <plusEV> allkright ill try that.
[22:07] <plusEV> i have backup but it will suck if it fails
[22:07] <plusEV> just waste of time then if it does :))
[22:07] <acerimmer> 10.04 is Long Term Support.  more testing went into it to ensure quality and workability.  LTS releases are way less stressful than non-LTS>  next LTS comes out in april: 12.04
[22:08] <plusEV> allright
[22:08] <acerimmer> installation method?
[22:08] <plusEV> boot dvd rw
[22:09] <acerimmer> 10.04 USTudio iso or install Ubuntu 10.04 and then install the UStudio packages.  both work
[22:10] <acerimmer> plusEV: don't feel like you MUST upgrade to 12.04 right away - LTS = 36 months of support on desktop, 60 months on server version
[22:10] <plusEV> ubuntustudio-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso yes?
[22:10] <acerimmer> plusEV: thats the one.  don't forget to md5sum check.
[22:11] <plusEV> cmd for that?
[22:11] <plusEV> what do you mean...---
[22:12] <acerimmer> !md5sum|plusev
[22:15] <plusEV> to much work. i trust its ok.
[22:15] <plusEV> :)
[22:17] <plusEV> fresh formated dvd should do the trick.
[22:21] <plusEV> but i will continuer this tomorrow. good night.
[23:21] <xerxes73> I have two linux boxes connected to a hub (happens to a wireless hub).  They both can talk to the internet.  What commands do I run so that I can scp between the two linux boxes?  Thanks!
[23:21] <xerxes73> One of the boxes runs latest Ubuntu, the other runs Debian
[23:22] <acerimmer> xerxes73: suggest you take this to #ubuntu
[23:22] <xerxes73> Alright thanks
[23:22] <xerxes73> acerimmer: i will take it to ubuntu
[23:27] <dreamy_> hi .. are there many musicians here?
[23:27] <acerimmer> dreamy_: what are you trying to get done
[23:27] <acerimmer> http://www.linuxmusicians.com/
[23:28] <dreamy_> i dont know.. im not busy at the moment
[23:28] <dreamy_> id liek
[23:28] <dreamy_> like
[23:28] <dreamy_> to maybe do some producition
[23:28] <dreamy_> well..
[23:29] <dreamy_> ty for that link
[23:29] <acerimmer> no problem.
[23:33] <dreamy_> oh nice link, but its  a conversation forum?
[23:35] <acerimmer> all kinds - developers, producers, musicians, etc...
[23:35] <dreamy_> acerimmer, maybe i could find an app to write some songs
[23:35] <acerimmer> dreamy_: song writing?  wait
[23:35] <dreamy_> whats the cleverst app u know?
[23:35] <acerimmer> dreamy_: as I don't write... idk
[23:35] <dreamy_> k
[23:36] <acerimmer> muse...
[23:36] <dreamy_> let me check
[23:36] <acerimmer> musescore
[23:37] <dreamy_> the screenshots r nice
[23:39] <acerimmer> dreamy_: here's a thought - the way I learn best is hands on.  I worked from small projects and learned at each stage bigger and better tricks.  Choose a project, test the tools, evaluate your results.  Pretty sure 100  musicians will have 100 opinions...
[23:40] <dreamy_> oh u mean i should try the applications?
[23:41] <acerimmer> dreamy_: sure!  free to try, free to learn and if you don't find exactly what you want, free to try something different!
[23:41] <dreamy_> ok..im figuring by now that linux is clever with music
[23:41] <dreamy_> i mean it makes a good combination
[23:42] <dreamy_> do u know cubase
[23:42] <dreamy_> ?
[23:42] <acerimmer> dreamy_: i don't BUT i know that Ardour is the linux equivalent.  Audacity suits my editing and mixing needs for the podcast quite nicely.
[23:43] <dreamy_> nice
[23:44] <acerimmer> dreamy_: you'll find, I think, that there's enough variety and resources to get whatever you need done.  See the Ubuntu Studio and Multimedia forums...
[23:45] <dreamy_> ty for your atteention and help so far
[23:45] <dreamy_> im installing muse
[23:45] <acerimmer> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334  $  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=16
[23:46] <acerimmer> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335
[23:47] <dreamy_> ty ill check that after i install muse
[23:49] <dreamy_> whats the jack audio server .. whats its purporse? does it makes better sound quality?
[23:49] <dreamy_> muse and ardour requires it
[23:50] <acerimmer> install it.  Jack works with the real-time kernel which you'll find very useful for multi-input semi-pro recording sessions.
[23:50] <acerimmer> NOTE: you can record, edit and mix with audacity without using jack - that's what I've been doing.
[23:51] <acerimmer> my very 1st Ubuntu Studio production in Audacity and Openshot video editor: http://youtu.be/XDL6fMQXIoE
[23:52] <dreamy_> im familiar with audicity , pretty nice..
[23:54] <acerimmer> Remixing in Ardour with Ubuntu Studio
[23:54] <acerimmer> http://youtu.be/brBK5PTJ19U
[23:55] <dreamy_> pls w8 im trying to deal with jack
[23:58] <dreamy_> those apps also stand for electronic music producition?
[23:58] <dreamy_> mixing with real isntruments?
[23:58] <acerimmer> which?
[23:58] <dreamy_> ardour and muse
[23:59] <acerimmer> ardour absolutely never used muse so idk