[00:00] <soee> any suggestions how can i fix this>
[00:01] <giantpune> hi, yesterday i installed the nvidia-nouveur package from the package manager.  some programs have started acting up since, so i am wanting to remove it.  when i select it in the synaptic and go to remove it, it says it will remove something calles xserver-xorg-video-all.  that one sounds pretty important.
[00:01] <giantpune> does anybody know how i can remove the nvidea thing without clobbering xorg?
[00:22] <Num83rGuy> Does anyone here know why my samba setup is sending bad paths?
[00:24] <Num83rGuy> It did this suddenly and even after I purged the packages it still directs to wrong folder paths and some I have just set are not showing.
[00:25] <Num83rGuy> I should say pureged and reinstalled.
[00:27] <rockl> Hey guys, does quassel really have no file transfer support?
[00:28] <yofel> rockl: it doesn't
[00:28] <rockl> Ah, I had hoped that wiki was outdated
[00:28] <rockl> Is there no way to add support then?
[00:29] <yofel> well, tricky to do the way quassel works internally. But also not really a high priority for the devs
[00:29] <yofel> for DCC I usually use xchat
[00:30] <Num83rGuy> Does anyone know where dolphin or KDE stores the information on your samba shares it is not in my /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:30] <rockl> ouch, well I wanted to try and use kde software this time around
[00:30] <rockl> I'll try konversation then, it seems promising.
[00:32] <Num83rGuy> Am I mute or does no one f**king know?
[00:36] <Num83rGuy> I shudder at the power of 24/7 live community help.
[01:00] <em> I accidentally quit the sound volume control in the system tray. is there any way to get that back in the system tray?
[01:02] <em> hey kernelpanic how are you.
[01:03] <em> kernelpanic: I accidentally 'quit' the sound volume control thingy in the system tray, I don't see how you get that back now.
[01:03] <em> kernelpanic: do you know?
[01:15] <Num83rGuy> em: Alt+F2 and type kmix.
[01:16] <Snowhog> Num83rGuy: When you 'purge' an application, it doesn't actually remove "everything". User files/directories (hidden or otherwise) are left intact.
[01:18] <em> Num83rGuy: thanks.
[01:19] <em> Num83rGuy: One last thing -- is there something in Kubuntu that would be like a screen saver? Id like something that will 'lock screen' and force a password to log back in when a screen saver kicks in.
[01:21] <yofel> em: if you go to system settings -> display and monitor -> screensaver, there's a checkbox for passwords
[01:21] <em> yoeyes I found it thanks.
[01:21] <em> yofel: ^
[01:22] <em> I guess that kubuntu does not come with any screen savers though. Just blank screen.
[01:22] <yofel> well, doesn't make much sense to use one with modern displays - waste of power
[01:22] <yofel> there are packages that provide some though
[01:23] <yofel> kscreensavers, kscreensavers-xsavers, kscreensavers-xserver-extra
[01:24] <em> yofel: Oh I don't really use a screen saver to save power or my screen. I just like to see something neat moving around on there.
[01:28] <Num83rGuy> Thanks Snowhog. It's just Dolphin is showing my shares all in lowercase and they all have the first letter capitalized example Video not video. Samba on my box (linux) and my wifes (Win)  say file not found.
[01:31] <Num83rGuy> I am on #samba trying to get help and now have a new smb.conf file that has locked me out of my shares on both my comp and hers but, I can access her shares.
[01:31] <Num83rGuy> And I still can't add or remove shares on my computer.
[01:32] <Num83rGuy> I am not getting file not found any more now it's just access denied.
[01:43] <LINKSWORD2> Yo. How's everybody doing?
[01:44] <frogonwheels> Anybody got a clue how I can supress sounds for kmail imap sync errors for eg: like  mail.myserver:Unknown error. (Could not create collection)
[01:46] <frogonwheels> It doesn't appear to be classified as a Kmail  'Error while checking mail'  error.
[01:46] <LINKSWORD2> How do I get Konversation to auto-identify me?
[01:47] <frogonwheels> Edit the server definition, add an identity, supply a pass. umm..
[01:49] <frogonwheels> (server list,  select collection & press [edit] then  near 'identity' press [edit]  - provide a Service  (nickserv) and your password
[01:49] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: ^^
[01:50] <LINKSWORD2> frogonwheels: I must be blind....
[01:51] <frogonwheels> LINKSWORD2: it's one of those things - it's easier to see once you've seen it ;)
[01:51] <LINKSWORD2> I think I've found it.
[01:52] <LINKSWORD2> Heh. I decided to really go retro... And install the oldest Kubuntu I could find.
[01:52] <LINKSWORD2> Hoary Hedgehog (5.04)
[01:54] <LINKSWORD2> I've lost my sanity, everything else is soon to follow. :P
[01:56] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[01:58] <littlegirl> Hey there, is anybody here using Kubuntu 10.04 *and* familiar with TTY sessions?
[01:59] <LINKSWORD2> That's a negative, mate.
[02:01] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: what's the problem.. you're better off just asking.
[02:02] <littlegirl> frogonwheels: I would like a person who's comfortable using TTY sessions to try something in Kubuntu 10.04 so that I can figure out if it's a bug or if it's restricted to something in my setup.
[02:03] <littlegirl> I also went into the kubuntu-devel channel and asked if they are even interested in Kubuntu 10.04 bugs or not (since they may be totally busy with the new release coming out in 3 months) and received no answer.
[02:03] <Num83rGuy> What is the command?
[02:04] <littlegirl> Num83Guy: If I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 I end up in a black screen with no cursor and no prompt. I cannot get back out of it with Ctrl+Alt+F7 (as I would expect to be able to when wanting to return to the default session) and can only press Ctrl+Alt+Del to shut down the computer to get out of it.
[02:05] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: alt+F7  to get out of it
[02:05] <frogonwheels> err alt+f8
[02:05] <littlegirl> frogonwheels: Why?
[02:05] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: ctrl+alt+F*  is from X ..but in the console, it is just alt+f*
[02:05] <Num83rGuy> Some times X starts on TTY8 instead iof 7
[02:06] <littlegirl> But I can move around from session to session with Ctrl+Alt+F2 through F6, so why should Ctrl+Alt+F1 be different, and why is it not putting me at a prompt? Is it a bug?
[02:06] <frogonwheels> i think for some versions, upstart was running on tty1 before getting a session login.. but it seems it's now running on tty7 with X11 on tty8
[02:07] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: hmm.. oh yeah. that used not to be the case. lol, it's probably been like that for years.. however the ctrl  in the tty is not required.
[02:07] <Num83rGuy> Ha I did not know about not having to hold CTL to switch after you were out of X.
[02:07] <littlegirl> So it's not a bug?
[02:07] <frogonwheels> it used to be that ctrl+alt+F*  did NOT work
[02:08] <littlegirl> And is the non-cursor and non-prompt on Ctrl_Alt+F1 not a bug either?
[02:08] <frogonwheels> that sounds wrong.
[02:08] <frogonwheels> I think I've had problems with certain display drivers not switching properly into tty mode
[02:08] <littlegirl> NVIDIA here, straight from the company. (:
[02:08] <frogonwheels> at the moment it works fine tho'
[02:08] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: which might be your problem :(
[02:09] <littlegirl> Hmmm... (:
I mean why would anybody use a tty?</sarcasm>
[02:09] <Num83rGuy> I had that hapen too for a while. I just ignored it and used TTY2 +
[02:09] <Num83rGuy> Oh yeah Nvidia here as well.
[02:09] <littlegirl> Num83rGuy: Yeah, I'm wondering if it's a bug and if they should be told about it before they put out the next LTS release. (:
[02:10] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[02:10] <Num83rGuy> Well I am using 11.10 now and TTY1 is fine.
[02:11] <littlegirl> Num83rGuy: Glad to hear it. (:
[02:11] <frogonwheels> I'm on an ATI video-card, and not having problems.
[02:12] <littlegirl> Do they use your non-LTS code as a base for the next LTS release or do they use my LTS code as a base for the next release?
[02:12] <frogonwheels> I'm also on 11.10
[02:12] <littlegirl> Is that what they use as the foundation for the next LTS?
[02:12] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: It would be normal to make a cut of the current (non-lts) release to be tagged as LTS, and stabilise it
[02:13] <littlegirl> frogonwheels: Good, then the TTY won't be an issue in three months. (:
[02:14] <frogonwheels> littlegirl: keep your fingers crossed :)
[02:14] <littlegirl> frogonwheels: Will do, and if it's still an issue, I guess *then* I will file a bug report. (:
[02:14] <littlegirl> I figured it might be a little late in the game to be reporting 10.04 bugs. (:
[02:16] <littlegirl> Well, thanks for the help - I'm off! (:
[02:20] <LINKSWORD2> I keep seeing ChanServ give chan-op privileges to the FloodBotK nicks. How can I hide that in Konversation?
[02:25] <Xplosyst3m> ola
[02:31] <Snowhog> JontheEchidna: The bots are at it again.
[02:34] <JontheEchidna> that should do it. http://tinyurl.com/chzwadq
[02:36] <JontheEchidna> or not
[02:36] <Snowhog> hehe
[02:36] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[02:36] <Snowhog> The 'bot' is mightier than the JontheEchidna!!
[02:36] <JontheEchidna> This isn't the same last time. the bots seem to keep asking chanserv for op
[02:36] <JontheEchidna> last time it was just that two of the bots disagreed about a channel mode setting
[02:37] <Snowhog> JontheEchidna: Maybe they should be renamed: CancerBotK1, CancerBotK2, CancerBotK3
[02:37] <JontheEchidna> lol
[02:37] <yofel> nah, they're accurately named
[02:37] <yofel> after all they're flooding the channel
[02:38] <Snowhog> yofel: Well, given their current state of operation, yes!
[02:40] <Unit193> JontheEchidna: Normally someone logs into the host and resets them
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> I don't think I have access to that
[02:41] <Logos01> Greetings, programs... anybody in here familiar with connecting to an OpenVPN server as a client via the KNetworkManager interface? I seem to be unable to do so.
[02:42] <JontheEchidna> pangolin: ping (can't tsimpson, and the bots are causing trouble)
[02:43] <Logos01> I have confirmed the server is in fact operating (my Android device is able to connect via the same certs I want to use.)
[02:49] <Logos01> Anybody?
[02:57] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[03:02] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, is it still possible to upgrade legacy Kubuntu software through the normal upgrade processes?
[03:14] <Daskreech> LINKSWORD2: Yes
[03:15] <Daskreech> If you are really really old it might be a little rocky but it should work as long as you have kubuntu-desktop updated
[03:16] <LINKSWORD2> Daskreech: I decided to play around with the oldest Kubuntu version I could find, 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog.
[03:16] <LINKSWORD2> ... I might regret this later.
[03:17] <Daskreech> LINKSWORD2: Those servers are shut down for repository stuff
[03:17] <Daskreech> but they point to the last out of date server
[03:17] <Daskreech> so you will update and suddenly get pulled up to say Jaunty
[03:18] <LINKSWORD2> Which, if I recall, is 8.04?
[03:18] <Daskreech> Possibly
[03:18] <Daskreech> !jaunty
[03:19] <Daskreech> 9.04
[03:19] <LINKSWORD2> ... I was close. :P
[03:19] <Daskreech> :)
[03:19] <Daskreech> !hoary
[03:20] <Daskreech> So you stand the chance of jumping 4 years of development (and accumulated bugs!)
[03:21] <LINKSWORD2> ... lol
[03:23] <LINKSWORD2> Speaking of which.... I think I found one already.
[03:23] <Logos01> Anybdoy? KNetworkManager OpenVPN configuration experience?
[03:24] <Xplosyst3m> hello
[03:25] <LINKSWORD2> Daskreech: Permission to query?
[03:25] <Xplosyst3m> actualis that command the entire system??
[03:28] <skach> hello
[03:29] <skach> anybody here??
[03:37] <skach> hey anbody online??
[03:38] <yourfriendisaac> Is anyone else having trouble with submitting a bug?
[03:38] <skach> what bug??
[03:39] <yourfriendisaac> Well there are two  xaralx in ubuntu 10.10 and above menu is being inhibited and in ubuntu older cdrom drives are not seen by the os
[03:40] <skach> Oh lol didnt know that new here =)
[03:42] <Daskreech> Yes
[03:43] <Daskreech> What's the question?
[03:43] <Daskreech> Logos01: what version of Knetworkmanager?
[03:44] <Daskreech> yourfriendisaac: what's the bug?
[03:44] <Logos01> Daskreech: I've got Kubuntu 11.10
[03:45] <yourfriendisaac> Daskreech:Well there are two  xaralx in ubuntu 10.10 and above menu is being inhibited and in ubuntu older cdrom drives are not seen by the os
[03:48] <Daskreech> Logos01: And what are you trying?
[03:48] <Daskreech> !info xralax
[03:48] <Daskreech> Wht's xalrax ?
[03:48] <Logos01> Daskreech: I'm trying to connect to my OpenVPN server.
[03:49] <Logos01> I have confirmed my keys work (I've used them on my Android phone.)
[03:49] <Daskreech> Preshared Key?
[03:49] <Logos01> ca.crt client.crt client.key
[03:50] <Daskreech> ah ok
[03:50]  * Daskreech doesn't really know that much about but let me try find out
[03:51] <Daskreech> are you getting an error connecting?
[03:51] <Logos01> I'm not able to initiate the connection.
[03:52] <Daskreech> It just hangs then stops?
[03:52] <Logos01> No.
[03:52] <Logos01> It does nothing.
[03:53] <Daskreech> Hmm :-/
[03:54] <Logos01> So walk me through this client because its settings aren't like those for the Android OpenVPN client.
[03:54] <Logos01> "Gateway" should be the address of the OVPN server, correct?
[03:55] <yourfriendisaac> neveer mindI geuss i;; try the ubuntu room my fault
[04:05] <Daskreech> Logos01: can you pastebin the output from grep vpm /var/log/syslog ?
[04:06] <Logos01> Daskreech: I can just CNP it between quotes here for you:  ""
[04:06] <Daskreech> ha ok that's ... funky
[04:07] <Daskreech> grep VPN does the same?
[04:08] <Logos01> grep -i 'vp[n,m]' /var/log/syslog just gave me useful output...
 connection /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Settings/1 failed to activate: (2) The VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openvpn' was not installed.
[04:09] <Logos01> ... why I did not think of this...
[04:09] <Logos01> Bad admin. Bad.
[04:10] <Daskreech> bah
[04:10] <Daskreech>  vpn not vpm
[04:11] <Logos01> ... why would the openvpn dialogue be present if the package for it wasn't installed?
[04:11] <Logos01> That's buggy code if I ever heard it.
[04:13] <Logos01> That's done it, however.
[04:13] <Logos01> Sweetness.
[04:13] <Logos01> Thank you, Daskreech.
[04:13] <Daskreech> Hooray!!
[04:13] <Daskreech> Logos01: I think it will autodetect come 4.9 and beyond
[04:13] <Logos01> ... had to change the gateway to my router's local address since I'm on wifi right now, but hey -- that's trivial.
[04:13] <Daskreech> LINKSWORD2: sup?
[04:14] <LINKSWORD2> FYI, Opera browser is king.
[04:14] <LINKSWORD2> Well, the Hedgehog is screwed up. I'm gonna kidnap a Koala. :P
[04:15]  * LINKSWORD2 installs Karmic on my experimental system.*
[04:16] <Daskreech> !karmic
[04:16] <Daskreech> What happened with Hedgehog?
[04:16] <Daskreech> !breezy
[04:16] <LINKSWORD2> Upgrading wouldn't work.
[04:17] <Daskreech> Yeah I think the upgrade system was a little strange at that point
[04:17] <Daskreech> !6.06
[04:17] <Logos01> LINKSWORD2: Sure it would. You'd just have to upgrade via local install to an interstitial version.
[04:17] <LINKSWORD2> Screw that idea. lol
[04:18] <Daskreech> Logos01: Let him play in his sandbox :)
[04:18] <Logos01> Daskreech: Well... he's on his own then.
[04:18] <LINKSWORD2> Grrr....
[04:18] <Logos01> "ITS DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE! TAKE THIS!"
[04:18] <Daskreech> Pretty much is
[04:18] <LINKSWORD2> :P
[04:18]  * Daskreech plays flute
[04:18]  * LINKSWORD2 grabs Master Sword.*
[04:19] <LINKSWORD2> Daskreech: Have you ever used the Opera web browser
[04:19] <LINKSWORD2> ?
[04:19] <Daskreech> Yes
[04:19] <LINKSWORD2> Opinion?
[04:20] <Daskreech> It will work till the fat lady sings?
[04:20] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[04:20] <LINKSWORD2> True. :P
[04:20] <LINKSWORD2> Or at least until she meets Achmed. :P
[04:20] <Logos01> LINKSWORD2: ... did you just grab yourself in public?
[04:21] <LINKSWORD2> *Facepalm.*
[04:21] <LINKSWORD2> Logos... What do you know about my name?
[04:22] <LINKSWORD2> And I urge you to tread carefully... >.>
[04:24] <LINKSWORD2> Apparently, I know how to kill a chatroom.
[04:25] <Logos01> LINKSWORD2== Master Sword.
[04:25] <LINKSWORD2> Logos01: And how might you come to that conclusion?
[04:26] <Logos01> The Master Sword is the second sword Link gets.
[04:26] <LINKSWORD2> Which game? lol
[04:26] <Logos01> The Legend of Zelda ?
[04:26] <Logos01> It's been... over ten years since I've played it.
[04:26] <Logos01> Fuck, it's been over fifteen.
[04:27] <LINKSWORD2> !language
[04:27] <Logos01> I have a policy to not remain in channels that are too immature to handle language used by adults.
[04:27] <Logos01> Adieu.
[04:28] <LINKSWORD2> An "adult" would know that it's polite to not swear in such a manner....
[04:40] <LINKSWORD2> YEOWW!!! Kubuntu's default startup volume needs to be set to about 30%, rather than 75%.
[04:40] <Daskreech> WHAT? WHY?
[04:41] <LINKSWORD2> So that we don't go DEAF when the system starts up.... >.>
[04:43] <Daskreech> Why would we go 57007 ?
[04:46] <LINKSWORD2> Daskreech: WTF is 57007?
[04:46] <Daskreech> DEAF
[04:46] <LINKSWORD2> Grr....
[04:46] <Daskreech> also
[04:46] <Daskreech> !language :)
[04:47] <LINKSWORD2> .... "WTF" is an abbreviation, which can mean many things.
[04:47] <LINKSWORD2> I prefer the clean version.
[04:48] <Daskreech> World trades in fairness?
[04:49] <LINKSWORD2> -_- That would be nice... lol
[04:49] <LINKSWORD2> But no. I prefer "What the Freak?"
[04:54] <Daskreech> What the French?
[04:59] <LINKSWORD2> lol That works.
[05:02] <LINKSWORD2> !9.10
[05:03] <LINKSWORD2> Ah, that's right.
[05:08] <Daskreech> How's Karmic going?
[05:09] <LINKSWORD2> Installed. I'm familiar with Karmic quite well, so I'll fix my settings as I wish them to be.... In the morning.
[05:09] <Daskreech> ha ha
[05:11] <rrodasg> IN CHICAGO........write your city name and country: please
[05:14] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry. We just don't do that here. This is a support chat, not a dating chat.
[05:14] <Daskreech> rrodasg: Huh?
[05:14] <rrodasg> Kool
[05:16] <rrodasg> Kool then can you explain to me how to join freenode classroom EVents of Jan 31st and Feb 1 and 2
[05:19] <rrodasg> looking 4 answers
[05:20] <Daskreech> rrodasg: Those would be in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:21] <rrodasg> newbie here: so where do I find #ubuntu-classroom?
[05:22] <Daskreech> type /join #ubuntu-classroom or just click on the blue letters
[05:29] <rrodasg> how do I register
[05:43] <Daskreech> !register
[05:46] <sauron> hi
[05:47] <Daskreech> hi
[06:58] <zorobabel> not sure where to ask this, either here or KDE, but I changed my desktop theme to Oxygen (dark); now when I try to open Network Manager, battery settings, etc. in the task panel I can't see any of the text because it is dark grey, so how do I change the settings for that text?
[08:01] <daggs123> hello all, I'm using kubuntu 10.04 and I don't have any mic, any ideas how to debug the issue?
[08:32] <kroonrs> daggs123: do you mean the system isn't picking up your mic, or that you don't have one?
[08:37] <daggs123> kroonrs, I have a headset + mic, when I connect it to the jacks (I'm pretty sure it is the right ones) I don't hear the mic, I'm using the following command: arecord | aplay
[09:19] <yon__> someone here
[09:25] <yon__> are there any people in here who have anything to talk about
[09:25] <Riddell> yon__: this is a support channel, chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <yon__> what do you mean by that
[09:27] <yon__> this should be a place where everyone talk about everything isn't free means that
[09:28] <bazhang> yon__, no
[09:28] <yon__> why
[09:28] <bazhang> yon__, this is support. #kubuntu-offtopic is chit chat
[09:36] <yon__> any one know a social chat
[09:36] <yon__> to chat with friends or something
[09:36] <bazhang> #defocus or #kubuntu-offtopic yon__
[09:37] <yon__> another one
[09:37] <yon__> others
[09:37] <bazhang> !alis | yon__
[09:40] <ruslan> Есть хто?
[09:40] <bazhang> !ru | ruslan
[09:41] <blagflag> Hello all, I want to play around with ubuntu cloud and Im little bit confused where to start. For testing I want to do a single server cloud but I read that ubuntu 10 uses eucalyptus and ubuntu 12 will use openstack. Can someone give me a hint how I get a single server cloud up and running on ubuntu 11? I found http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/10/cloud-on-cloud-uec-on-ec2.html . Can I upgrade to ubuntu 12 then? When I use ubuntu 11.10 I was not able to
[09:41] <blagflag> get a running single server setup. Can someone give me a hint how to get it up and running?
[09:41] <ruslan> join #kubuntu-ru
[09:42] <bazhang> ruslan, /join #ubuntu-ru
[09:42] <ruslan> ok
[09:48] <yon__> i created a new social site i want to uplead it to the web how do i do that
[09:55] <yon__> i created a new social site i want to uplead it to the web how do i do that
[09:55] <yon__> i created a new social site i want to uplead it to the web how do i do that
[09:55] <FloodBotK3> yon__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <18VAAMS5Y> Can anyone tell me how to change the start launcher icon from the right side of the bar back to the left side?
[10:14] <aiguu> Is there a way to move the launcher from the lower right corner over to where it originally was in the lower left?
[10:14] <aiguu> Drag-drop doesn't seem to work and I dug through options and nothing sticks out.
[10:22] <robin0800> aiguu: the easy way is to remove that panel and start again from scratch
[10:22] <aiguu> Really? That seems like such a hassle.
[10:22] <aiguu> I guess I will just leave it on the right.
[10:22] <aiguu> That should really get fixed. :p
[10:42] <VAGNER-poutsini> does anyone else has disconnections while using Ktorrent?
[10:44] <varese> buongiorno
[10:47] <ArchangelSe7en> not me
[10:47] <rene> hi every1
[10:48] <ArchangelSe7en> hello
[10:48] <PokerFeisser> nick Rene is already in use
[10:48] <PokerFeisser> :)
[10:49] <PokerFeisser> i am new in linux, need help to set my boot options in dual boot system
[10:49] <PokerFeisser> in linux
[10:49] <PokerFeisser> how can i do it
[10:50] <ArchangelSe7en> dual setup with what ?
[10:50] <ArchangelSe7en> dualboot setup*
[10:50] <PokerFeisser> next to win 7
[10:50] <PokerFeisser> different hard drives
[10:51] <ArchangelSe7en> ah ..
[10:51] <PokerFeisser> lol
[10:51] <yon__> kubuntu sucks and fucks
[10:51] <ArchangelSe7en> I suppose both systems are already installed ?
[10:52] <PokerFeisser> yon__:  ty
[10:52] <ArchangelSe7en> yon__, you're absolutely right
[10:52] <bazhang> yon__, stop that
[10:52] <PokerFeisser> yon__: u sucks and fcks :) i like that KDE desctop
[10:52] <PokerFeisser> i am graphic lover
[10:53] <ArchangelSe7en> PokerFeisser, I suggest setting the boot order from the BIOS
[10:54] <PokerFeisser> ArchangelSe7en: can i set up different OS -s boot options in BIOS ?
[10:54] <yon__> why don't all of u blow job urself while using kde
[10:54] <ArchangelSe7en> ?
[10:54] <bazhang> !ops | yon__
[10:54] <PokerFeisser> lol
[10:55] <PokerFeisser> u even dont know what u talking about
[10:55] <PokerFeisser> thank god
[10:55] <yon__> tell me
[10:55] <ArchangelSe7en> yes you can
[10:55] <ArchangelSe7en> and I suggest ignoring the troll
[10:55] <yon__> please
[10:56] <PokerFeisser> firstable u laught with him and then u suggest to ignore troll, LOL
[10:56] <PokerFeisser> ty
[10:56] <yon__> ty you pokerfeisser
[10:56] <PokerFeisser> :)
[10:56] <yon__> :(
[10:57] <PokerFeisser> hm
[10:57] <yon__> hmmm u
[10:57] <yon__> pker teiser
[10:57] <PokerFeisser> yon__: why u be in here #kubuntu channel ? u event dont love kubuntu lol
[10:58] <yon__> my love to kde makes me hate it
[10:58] <PokerFeisser> lol
[10:58] <PokerFeisser> nice
[10:58] <yon__> lol u
[10:58] <PokerFeisser> fk u
[10:58] <bazhang> yon__, lets stop it now
[10:58] <PokerFeisser> :)
[10:58] <yon__> u too
[10:58] <bazhang> PokerFeisser, thats enough please
[10:58] <yon__> (:
[10:59] <yon__> bazhang are you from africa like me
[10:59] <PokerFeisser> yes yes, i am new and now most kickable guy in the whole world
[10:59] <PokerFeisser> :)
[10:59] <AlanBell> sorry about the inconvenience all, please carry on
[11:00] <AlanBell> !language
[11:00] <PokerFeisser> ty
[11:00] <AlanBell> !coc
[11:00] <AlanBell> those define our normal standards
[11:01] <PokerFeisser> AlanBell: u help me with one little guestion ? i need to make my dual boot options on just 2 options like: win7 and kubuntu
[11:01] <PokerFeisser> at the moment there is 4 different choises
[11:01] <PokerFeisser> are or smth
[11:02] <PokerFeisser> my english is so bad but hope u understand
[11:02] <AlanBell> not sure I know the answer
[11:02] <AlanBell> !dualboot
[11:02] <AlanBell> might be some stuff to read about there
[11:07] <PokerFeisser> !dualboot
[11:07] <PokerFeisser> !installskype
[11:07] <PokerFeisser> :D
[11:08] <VAGNER-poutsini> sudo apt-get install skype
[11:16] <grml__> hi, i have a problem since the last update in kubuntu backports, after login with kdm, the screen keeps black, shows only the mouse pointer
[11:18] <grml__> in .xsession-errors i habe fatal IO error for kglobalaccel, kdeinit4, x-window-manager, knotify4, klauncher
[11:19] <grml__> can anybody help? :)
[11:22] <aiguu> Anyone know what kind of drivers to look for for netbook webcams that are built into the netbook? I can't find any hardware information regarding the webcam.
[11:44] <Dieter_> brauche hilfe
[11:44] <Dieter_> möchte auf acere aspire one 3g treiber installiren
[11:45] <Dieter_> habe treiber schon geladen
[11:46] <Dieter_> mit dem software installkit sagt er fehler
[11:48] <Dieter_> kann bitte jemand helfen
[11:49] <Dieter_> admin kannst du helfen?
[11:51] <cortex_sk> !de | Dieter_
[11:52] <Dieter_> danke versuche es
[12:34] <sayakb> hi, i'm using the horos theme with kdm. my laptop has a resolution of 1366x768 and kdm crops the background image there. i used to set "ScaleMode" attribute to free in kdmrc, but since they changed it from an XML file to a key-value pair, the settings dont take effect. anyone has any idea?
[12:43] <sayakb> nevermind, figured it out!
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:39] <oops6_4> Hi all I just installed Kubuntu 11.10 on my new HP Elite Book dual boot with Windows 7 but after the installation I cannot able to boot in Kubunt normally have to use recovery mode only and with windows its not booting up giving me blue screen of deth
[13:39] <oops6_4> any solution for atleast kubuntu please
[13:43] <desade_mm> Daskreech: thanks for your and BrickRisk's help yesterday. I ended up using Clonezilla, and it worked much better.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> oops6_4,  in recovery mode , have you updated/upgraded since the install?
[13:46] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: yes
[13:46] <oops6_4> I did update and upgrade too
[13:47] <BluesKaj> do a dist-upgrade as well
[13:47] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: sure let me do that
[13:48] <BluesKaj> then , sudo os-prober , then run , sudo update-grub
[13:49] <oops6_4> sure
[13:49] <oops6_4> well this dist-upgrade is updateing my kernel so shall I restart or just do this 2 steps and then restart
[13:50] <BluesKaj> do the commands first
[13:50] <oops6_4> sure thanks
[13:52] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: restarting brb
[14:07] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: still the same only in recovery mode
[14:07] <oops6_4> well this time when it was stuck i press alt+ctrl +f7 ans it was
[14:08] <oops6_4> udevd /sbin/modprobe -bv terminated by signal 9
[14:10] <akis> hi all. my son removed for my places in dolphin the recycle bin. how can i replace it? which is the path?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> akis open the trash and restore
[14:12] <BluesKaj> oops6_4,  do lsmod and pastebin it
[14:13] <akis> open from where? i added a new entry named "trasch" but i don't know the path.
[14:14] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: here it is http://pastebin.com/deaek0gx
[14:15] <BluesKaj> akis, right click on the desktop , add widgets , type trash in the text , click on trash twice then open it in the panel
[14:17] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: going to restart the machine brb
[14:18] <akis> ok. i find it as widget. i want it know in 'my places' in dolphin under 'root'
[14:21] <oops6_4> BluesKaj: I just updated my Nvidia drives and now its working smoot but still windows problem is there cant boot windows 7 grub shows 2 windows 7 entries and both of them goes to blue screen how do I slove it ?
[14:23] <akis> i went to 'my places' in dolphin left column. i added new entry, i choised 'trash' icon and i put as path: /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files. i can see know the files in trash, but right click doesn't have 'empty trash' option. any idea?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> is there anything in trash ?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> your son must have emptied the trash folder
[14:26] <akis> yes i have some files i deleted today. ia can see them in /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files
[14:31] <akis> i added a new entry under 'my places' in dolphin, i choosed as path /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files so when i click on it i can see the files on trash but right click doesn't have 'empty' option.
[14:32] <akis> and the icon is not a full trash.
[14:33] <akis> so is imissing the default icon with the default procedure.
[14:33] <akis> any idea?
[14:33] <akis> to restore it?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> the default path for trash is , trash:/  , akis
[14:36] <BluesKaj> akis alt+f2 , trash
[14:39] <meNtha> hello
[14:39] <meNtha> somebody can help me to fix my muon software center? its always crash...
[14:40] <BluesKaj> akis,  drag the folder beside trash:/ in dolphin addressbar to places
[14:40] <akis> bingo! super! path: trash:/ worked.
[14:40] <akis> i fixed it.
[14:40] <akis> thanks a lot.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  muon is broken , don't use it np
[14:41] <BluesKaj> akis,  good :)
[14:42] <akis> once more, thank you BluesKaj.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  apper or adept or synaptic are good package managers , use one of those
[14:42] <BluesKaj> akis,  were you able to restore your files ?
[14:43] <akis> i just emptied trash. i try to delete one file and restore it and i report it. ait.
[14:43] <meNtha> synaptic is godd, can i intall it wit apt-get synaptic? :)
[14:44] <akis> yes. it can be restored normally.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:44] <akis> everything works fine.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> akis,  add the trash widget to your panel , it will have the same path and is much handier than open dolphin to empty it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> opening
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !apt-get | meNtha,
[14:47] <akis> i saw it, but is more convenient for me to use 'trash' in 'my places' in dolphin.
[14:58] <vpelcak_> Hello.
[15:00] <meNtha> thanks
[15:01] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  synaptic is still my favourite , I use it mostly for refernces and package information but I can't live without it .
[15:01] <BluesKaj> hi vpelcak_
[15:03] <vpelcak_> BluesKaj: hi. I prefer Synaptic as well. BTW, after upgrade I have displayed also packages from i386 in it. How come? Any idea how to get rid of them?
[15:05] <Kwarkje> vpelcak_ some packages stil come only in i386 and they work perfectly fine under amd64, you can't get rid of them
[15:05] <BluesKaj> are you running apps like  google earth , vpelcak_ , they will install i386 apps despite calling themselves 64 bit
[15:06] <BluesKaj> i386 libs actually
[15:07] <vpelcak_> Nope guys. I mean, I have some 32bit apps installed for sure, point is, that for _every_ package I have displayed its 32bit version with :i386 suffix
[15:09] <vpelcak_> It looks like bug in Synaptic
[15:10] <BluesKaj> vpelcak_, make sure you install multiarch-support
[15:11] <vpelcak_> I have. It looks like problem iin package management itself, not in kernel level
[15:11] <vpelcak_> aptitude displays packages twice, synaptic adds i386 indicator
[15:11] <BluesKaj> as installed ?
[15:12] <vpelcak_> Nope. As available. Only one of them can be installed
[15:13] <vpelcak_> It just displays both archs for me. Maybe some failed config migration in apt
[15:14] <BluesKaj> just showing availble isn't a bug
[15:15] <BluesKaj> some ppl still prefer to run 32 bit apps/libs on 64 bit machines
[15:16] <vpelcak_> Well, but it didn't use to be so. I'd like to disable it anyway. Also, in aptitude it is confusing as it is not visible which arch are you picking to be installed.
[15:16] <meNtha> BluesKaj can u give me some information about dpkg like apt-get?
[15:16] <vpelcak_> But it is not huge problem for me. If you don't know, no problem. I don't know either anyway.
[15:17] <meNtha> !dpkg | meNtha
[15:18] <BluesKaj> vpelcak_,  if you run a 64 bit OS  apt/aptitude/dpkg will always try to install 64 bit versions
[15:20] <vpelcak_> BluesKaj: I got it. As meNtha mentioned dpkg, I checked its configs. There is file /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch containing "foreign-architecture i386". So I renamed that file to *.bck and restarted Synaptic. Voila.. it works.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> meNtha,  apt and aptitude and GUI package managers always call the dpkg sytem to actually do the installation
[15:41] <Lynoure> hi
[15:41] <Lynoure> Where can I find kivio / flow ?
[15:42] <Lynoure> my apt-cache search does not seem to find it on 11.10
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Lynoure,  isn't listed in my package manager...is kivio the right name ?
[15:47] <LjL> Lynoure: not entirely sure, but i think they've been removed from KOffice and are now in Calligra, but Calligra is not available in 11.10
[15:48] <Kwarkje> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.3.86
[15:48] <Kwarkje> Lyonoure: LjL:
[15:51] <Kwarkje> Lynoure: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[15:51] <Kwarkje> sudo apt-get install calligra
[15:52] <Kwarkje> after that you should remove this beta repository with: sudo remove-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[16:01] <unix> Hello
[16:41] <Lynoure> Kwarkje: Thank you. Seems my system did not have remove-apt-repository but I removed that one manually
[16:42] <Kwarkje> Lynoure, my command was wrong, it should be sudo remove-apt-repository kubuntu-ppa/beta, without ppa: ;)
[16:44] <Lynoure> Kwarkje: no, I mean there was no command remove-apt-repository
[16:44] <Lynoure> Kwarkje: root@lalli:~# remove-
[16:44] <Lynoure> remove-default-ispell    remove-default-wordlist  remove-shell
[16:45] <Lynoure> But, like I said, removed it manually.
[16:45] <Lynoure> and ran apt-get update again, so I don't accidentally upgrade to weirdness.
[16:45] <Kwarkje> Lynoure, good then :)
[16:47] <yofel> Lynoure, Kwarkje: it's 'add-apt-resository -r ppa:...'
[16:47] <yofel> to remove one
[16:48] <Kwarkje> lmao, how weird yofel, almost like hitting start to shutdown computer
[16:49] <Lynoure> yofel: the dudes writing Unix Haters' Handbook have such a point :)
[16:49] <Lynoure> yofel: thanks :)
[16:50] <yofel> well, we have manpages for that... somewhat...
[16:50] <Kwarkje> they should just change name to apt-repository
[16:52] <Vamp898> Hi, it seems like Kubuntu have a update problem. Multiple times the persons where i installed Kubuntu and my Test VMs just "hang" on the Update. This happens for example 100% reproducable on the first update every, but from month to month this happens again. The Update Prozess just freezes, the people dont know what to do, restart and the system is only trash. I have to go to them personally and rescue there systems finising the hung upgrade
[16:52] <Vamp898> by hand with dpkg --configure -a. Thats qute annoying and since about 2 or 3 Kubuntu releases. On Ubuntu this does not happen
[16:54] <Vamp898> if i run the upgrade by hand using apt-get dist-upgrade, this also does not happen, this happens only using the GUI-Updater. Its quite mysterious that this happens always at all people where i installed Kubuntu so this have to be a known thing (its not the first time that this happened too)
[16:54] <Vamp898> Im installing a VM right now where i do a snapshot and run the update by cli and by gui to check whats the reason for the freeze. If there are already some informations, please tell
[16:56] <Vamp898> ok nvmd, i found a bug on launchpad
[17:41] <josm> anyone here good on stonith + ipmi?
[17:41] <josm> im having problems with my fence :)
[18:00] <douglas-web-dev> Hello everyone!
[18:00] <douglas-web-dev> Would someone help me please?
[18:00] <douglas-web-dev> Why my software-center is not asking for password while opening?
[18:01] <dan457> it should if you make any changes
[18:02] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, well but when I click to install any package, nothing happens... :/
[18:03] <dan457> did you click the apply changes button?
[18:04] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, I click on the install button... I think there's no where else to click....
[18:05] <douglas-web-dev> I don't see any apply changes button, dan457 ...
[18:05] <dan457> k, I use package manager not software center, prob different. let me look...
[18:06] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, okay, thank you!
[18:07] <dan457> ok, when I click install, I get a popup asking for my password.
[18:07] <kaipreshaw> dan457, type your password
[18:08] <dan457> I did,and it installed
[18:08] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, well... Here it doesn't ask for it. :(
[18:09] <douglas-web-dev> The install button just blinks fast, and nothing more.
[18:10] <dan457> you know how to open a terminal?
[18:10] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, yeah, it's open here...
[18:11] <dan457> try:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:11] <dan457> make sure you don't have any unfinished installations...
[18:12] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, okay
[18:12] <dan457> did it do anything?
[18:14] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, No... I typed and hit enter. Re-opened the software-center... It still happens nothing when I click on install, for any package.
[18:14] <dan457> the dpkg should have asked for your password, then did nothing if everything is ok.
[18:15] <douglas-web-dev> Sorry for taking your time, dan457 . :/
[18:16] <dan457> open the package-manager instead, and try to install from there.  it's more complex but has way more programs
[18:16] <douglas-web-dev> It asked, I typed in... And it did nothing. :)
[18:16] <dan457> software-center has a very limmited selection.
[18:16] <dan457> but is more user friendly for new users
[18:18] <douglas-web-dev> How do I open package-manager? I type the name in the terminal and it doesn't open...
[18:18] <dan457> Don't worry about my time.  Lazy sunday, testing latest build of next release..
[18:18] <dan457> same place as software center under the k menu
[18:19] <dan457> menu-applications-system
[18:19] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, I'm sorry... I gotta go... Lunch is on table, and wife is almost angry. :)
[18:19] <dan457> lol
[18:19] <douglas-web-dev> dan457, I'm sorry... Thank you for your time. I'll be back in some minutes... Thank you.
[18:25] <kaipreshaw> lol
[18:26] <dan457> hmm, found a bug :-(
[18:27] <dan457> #kubuntu channel dissapeare from my list of channels onthe left, and have to type /j #kubuntu to switch back every time. other channels working fine...
[18:27] <dan457> annoying..
[18:28] <dan457> I think I'll take it off my auto-join list and relog.  brb.
[19:12] <gabriel> ...
[19:19] <orated> Kubuntu 11.10 KDE 4.8 How to reinstall dolphin? I'm some problems when trying to connect to a network using dolphin. I cannot purge/remove it as it also lists kubuntu-desktop.
[19:21] <dan457> have you tried backing up .kde and deleting it?  might just be old config issue....
[19:22] <orated> No
[19:22] <orated> dan457: So you are saying that resetting kde can help? Will it affect KDE apps settings?
[19:23] <dan457> it will make a new .kde with the default settings
[19:24] <dan457> it has helped me before, have not tried 4.8 on 11.10 so don't know for sure
[19:25] <dan457> currently running 4 7.4 on desktop, anf this netbook is 12.04...
[19:25] <orated> and after reset, the settings for specific kde app can be copied  from backep up .kde?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> orated, are thrses connections made with add network folder , previous to 4.8 upgrade?
[19:25] <dan457> yes, bet to do it from a live cd
[19:25] <orated> BluesKaj: yes
[19:25] <dan457> best*
[19:26] <dan457> some caanot be copied over wile in use.
[19:27] <orated> dan457: Yes, thanks. I was considering kde reset
[19:27] <BluesKaj> then dolphin doesn't have anything to do with connection , make sure you have kwalletmanager enabled and try to connect again.
[19:28] <dan457_> They did a lot of "improvements" in dolphin 4.8, so I image a lot of new bugs.
[19:29] <orated> BluesKaj: It used to work. Dor example, I'm able to ssh from my system to 192.168.2.100 but sftp in dolphin is not opening with same credentials. I removed the created network before and retried but same error - unable to connect. I can make sftp connections using other ftp/smb/stfp clients
[19:30] <dan457_> Ah, sounds like a bug.  I should try from my netbook to my server...
[19:30] <dan457_> it's running kde 4.8
[19:33] <BluesKaj> orated,  I had the same problem , but I had kwalletmanager disabled , then after emanabling and giving the password in smb/workgroup for both linux and windows pc s, I was able to connect . Then I disabled networkmanager , but I can still connect without any problems
[19:33] <orated> disabled networkmanager?
[19:34] <orated> Let me try with disabling kwalletmanager then
[19:34] <BluesKaj> make sure it's enabled , if you don't want to disable it then that fine as wel
[19:34] <orated> I didn't get why you had to disable networkmanager
[19:35] <domacs> hi all, is there a way to become the "takeoff-launcher" working in kubuntu 11.10 / kde 4.8 ?  installation says kdelibs are missing
[19:35] <BluesKaj> orated,  it's quite clear
[19:35] <dan457_> on my kubuntu 12.04 test netbook, ssh comes up invalid protocol.
[19:35] <dan457_> with dolphin.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> dan tr ssh in the terminal
[19:35] <BluesKaj> try
[19:36] <BluesKaj> domacs,  ??
[19:37] <domacs> y?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> pls explain , "become take-off launcher "
[19:38] <domacs> i mean
[19:38] <domacs> when installing it there comes an error that says, takeoff-launcher depends on kdelibs, but kdelibs ist installed
[19:38] <orated> BluesKaj: So basically you reconfigured your smb/workgroup after disabling kde wallet and for that disabled network manager
[19:40] <BluesKaj> orated,  I don't use kwallet manager , but I had to enable it to reconnect to my LAN pcs after upgrade kde
[19:42] <BluesKaj> domacs,  install kdelibs
[19:43] <domacs> kdelibs is installed, i also installed kdelibs-dev, but still same error
[19:44] <BluesKaj> kdelibs-bin?
[19:44] <domacs> also installed
[19:45] <BluesKaj> !pm | orated
[19:47] <dan457_> :-(
[19:47] <orated> " <orated> BluesKaj, do you mind talking here?"
[19:47] <orated> Sorry BluesKaj
[19:47] <BluesKaj> dan457_,  orated your ssh connections work ok , right ?
[19:48] <dan457_> I can use dolphin with fish.. even with kde 4.8
[19:48] <dan457_> it's just been a wile, forgot I had to use fish: not ssh:
[19:49] <dan457_> lol
[19:49] <BluesKaj> never used fish
[19:50] <orated> Great! fish protocol over sftp working for ssh network folder
[19:50] <dan457_> oh, to ssh my server from my netbook... I have to type:  fish://user:password@hostname
[19:50] <dan457_> in the address bar of dolphin.
[19:53] <BluesKaj> right , it works here too
[19:54] <dan457> you could prob just right click on the side pane and add the location
[19:55] <dan457> for now
[19:55] <BluesKaj> I have my most used commands alias in ~/.bashrc and use all pwd in the sudoers file
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , the other pcs are in the places list  in dolphin
[20:11] <Kwarkje> I'M ALIVE!! (greg here)
[20:11] <Kwarkje> but fonts are fucked up
[20:13] <BluesKaj> !language | Kwarkje
[20:14] <Kwarkje> ops, sorry ;)
[20:15] <dan457> Not sure what you were fixing, but gratz on making progress anyway.
[20:15] <BluesKaj> set your fonts in system settings>application appearence
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Kwarkje, ^
[20:16] <Kwarkje> Ignore my message, it was about certain application (quassel) i have bright fonts on black backround, and they really do look bad , BluesKaj
[20:17] <BluesKaj> yeah , Kwarkje , quassel isn't a pretty app by any stretch of the imagination IMO
[20:19] <Kwarkje> BluesKaj, you can make it as pretty as you want with custom qss style sheet
[20:19] <dan457> sounds like work....
[20:20] <BluesKaj> konversation follows the kde-look , so i stick with that
[20:21] <dan457> nice to know.  I'll try that on my desktop.  this notebook is running off a live usb, so sticking with defaults mostly.
[20:59] <Kwarkje> as far as I remember I've always had issues with fonts under under KDE, I'm a long time windows user and I just can't stand them, I want my crisp fonts back,  could someone guide me around this issue? :)
[21:01] <almoxarife> i am a recent convert to kubuntu, i gave up on ubuntu, i appreciate the config options and it works for me, one exception, muon!, i assume it is the most like synaptic, but i have had some issues, from screens going blank to hangs etc, something i rarely see with synaptic, do i need to re-install it? does synaptic and muon not live together well?
[21:03] <dan457> they co-exist
[21:04] <dan457> i have windows fonts installed, but only for compatibility.
[21:07] <dan457> almoxarife: muon is somewhat buggy for me as well, often have to use dpkg to fix what it messes up.
[21:07] <dan457> almoxarife: or synaptic.  :)
[21:11] <SIQKO> anybody how to end unnecessary processes ?
[21:11] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  stick with synaptic , it runs fine on kubuntu and works well as a package manager and reference for packages
[21:12] <dan457> ctrl-esc
[21:12] <SIQKO> nope
[21:12] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: got you
[21:12] <SIQKO> what els e
[21:13] <almoxarife> SIQKO: bring up system monitor, kill your processes away at will, at some point you will notice what is needed or not
[21:13] <dan457> opens system activity if i'm on desktop
[21:13] <SIQKO> killed those but some ext
[21:14] <SIQKO> some other things keeps using the CPU unnecessarely
[21:14] <SIQKO> the point is that how to i get rid of then ?
[21:15] <SIQKO> u can se that of the fen's perfomance
[21:15] <almoxarife> SIQKO: you need to un-install the app that initiates the process, but that also means you will get a buggy system
[21:15] <SIQKO> look
[21:16] <almoxarife> !who
[21:16] <A-West> So I have never been able to get a kde distro to work with my wired internet connection till yesterday when I installed Fedora... but for some reason yum is INCREDIBLY slow, if I switched to kubuntu is that likely to be the same case?
[21:16] <SIQKO> i thing some scripts or what eva may got stuck but they are not visible but i don't know how to kill them
[21:17] <almoxarife> invisible scripts?
[21:17] <SIQKO> c'mone u know what i mean
[21:17] <dan457> A-West: ubuntu repos are very fast except near release dates
[21:18] <A-West> so its a matter of repos and not yum dan457?
[21:18] <almoxarife> A-West: yum is a app d/l and install process, what is the slow part?
[21:19] <SIQKO> does anyone know how to end everything that is useless for my system withour refering to ctr-esc
[21:19] <A-West> it's just slow in general almoxarife... commands are slow, package downloads are slow... ("yum clean all" did nothing to help)
[21:19] <dan457> fedora's default mirrors are slow, if he changes it to a faster one like kernel.org, i'm sure he'l be fine.
[21:20] <SIQKO> cuz that ain't show everything
[21:20] <almoxarife> A-West: what kubuntu may have over other distros is d/l locations closer to your location, i rely on that
[21:20] <A-West> i heard about installing "yum fastestmirror" but i heard that causes instability in yum...
[21:20] <dan457> try asking in #fedora for help there, been a wile for me
[21:20] <SIQKO> what ever seems like anybode has an answer for that that's see what google says about it
[21:20] <almoxarife> !who | SIQKO
[21:21] <dan457> kubuntu has accualy had the best hardware support for me, except for one wireless laptop, but then fixed that in 11.10 as well.
[21:21] <SIQKO> that doesen't answer my question at all
[21:22] <almoxarife> A-West: another trick is to d/l from universities closest to your location, works for me
[21:22] <almoxarife> SIQKO: how do you know you have 'hidden' scripts?
[21:23] <SIQKO> ubottu: don't miss understand my but i just didn't get any respond but the question was pretty siomple
[21:23] <dan457> SIQKO: useless process is relative, i may use what you do not.
[21:23] <SIQKO> since i got some attention
[21:23] <SIQKO> can u know suggest me how to end them
[21:24] <almoxarife> SIQKO: end what?
[21:24] <SIQKO> the unnecessary procs
[21:24] <almoxarife> SIQKO: pick one
[21:24] <almoxarife> SIQKO: pick one
[21:24] <SIQKO> the hidden scripts
[21:24] <almoxarife> SIQKO: pick one
[21:24] <SIQKO> they are hidden man
[21:24] <SIQKO> how do i pick them
[21:24] <almoxarife> SIQKO: we done
[21:25] <SIQKO> i asked for a command if anybody knows
[21:25] <SIQKO> almoxarife: can u clarify ur self what do u mean we done ?
[21:27] <SIQKO> i is not a probl i'll do i it but i just wanted to see if anyone know a better way of doing it that's all
[21:27] <SIQKO> thank you guys anyway
[22:01] <datruth> what apps takes screen shots?
[22:02] <dan457> hmmm
[22:03] <dan457> ksnapshot? not sure
[22:04] <dan457> ya that's it.
[22:12] <datruth> xthx
[23:51] <littlegirl> Hey there, is there a key combination I can use to make each of these letters inside of a text editor in Kubuntu? ä Ä ö Ö ü Ü ß
[23:56] <BarkingFish> littlegirl: Yes there is.  Firstly, you need to set a "compose" key
[23:57] <BarkingFish> One second while I find where to do this, I forget :)
[23:58] <BarkingFish> hold on
[23:59] <BarkingFish> Aha, there we go.