[14:46] <arand> !inteunity-#ubuntu-se is <reply> Ubuntu 11.10 använder normalt sett GNOME 3 med skalet !unity. För att använda GNOME Shell istället, installera paketet "gnome-shell" och möjligtvis även "gnome-tweak-tool". För GNOME Fallback mode, som liknar GNOME 2, installera "gnome-panel". Båda paketen placerar alternativ i sessionsmenyn vid login.
[14:48] <pangolin> !inteunity-#ubuntu-se is <reply> Ubuntu 11.10 använder normalt sett GNOME 3 med skalet !unity. För att använda GNOME Shell istället, installera paketet "gnome-shell" och möjligtvis även "gnome-tweak-tool". För GNOME Fallback mode, som liknar GNOME 2, installera "gnome-panel". Båda paketen placerar alternativ i sessionsmenyn vid login.
[14:48] <pangolin> arand: test it make sure it works in the channel
[14:48] <arand> Not yet at least, is there a delay?
[14:49] <pangolin> ubottu: is in that channel correct?
[14:49] <pangolin> quiet bot!
[14:49] <AlanBell> it will need sync to the loco bots
[14:49] <pangolin> it "should" sync up soonish
[14:49] <pangolin> if not poke jpds
[14:49] <arand> So it works for setting them, but not for suggestions...?
[14:50] <arand> !test-#ubuntu-se is <reply> blah
[14:50] <pangolin> you are not added to the bot with the privs needed to add factoids
[14:51] <arand> Yes, but it should forward it to here if not.
[14:51] <arand> And that still doesn' work
[14:51] <AlanBell> arand: ubottu knows it now, but lubot2 or whatever your bot is does not yet, it gets a database sync from ubottu on a regular basis
[14:51] <Fuchs> AlanBell: do I see it correct that you are one of the guys of the IRCC?
[14:52] <pangolin> he is
[14:52] <AlanBell> arand: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=inteunity
[14:52] <AlanBell> Fuchs: yes, but that doesn't mean I can work any special magic with the bots
[14:52] <Fuchs> Perfect. Do you happen to be around today at ~ 18:00 CET  (2 hours from now)?
[14:53] <Fuchs> AlanBell: it has nothing to do with bots :)
[14:53] <Fuchs> AlanBell: a few guys from ubuntuusers.de, including me, should discuss something with both the IRCC and the LoCo C regarding a IRC namespace / freenode group registration
[14:54] <Fuchs> and they happen to be around at ~ 18:00 CET, that's why I am asking :)
[14:54] <pangolin> Fuchs: if they aren't you can email the ircc, see /msg ubottu !appeals and the email will be on the link provided
[14:55] <pangolin> Fuchs: there is an IRCC meeting a little later in about 3 hours
[14:55] <Fuchs> we tried to go via mail, it lead to a bit of confusion, that's why I would prefer IRC
[14:55] <AlanBell> yeah, Fuchs, IRC is fine, and 1800 is our meeting, I will add an agenda item
[14:55] <Fuchs> AlanBell: that's perfect :)
[14:55] <Fuchs> AlanBell: shall I give you some information as preparation?
[14:55] <AlanBell> Fuchs: I did see the request and back story on it
[14:56] <Fuchs> Perfect
[14:56] <AlanBell> I think the main confusion is the relationship between that and the LoCo team
[14:57] <AlanBell> is ubuntu users a print magazine or something?
[14:57] <Fuchs> I think we have a bit of explaining to do, since some people believe that it would be a competitor, which it's not
[14:57] <Fuchs> AlanBell: it's a / the biggest german portal, consisting of a Forum, a Wiki, an own news portal and a planet.
[14:57] <Fuchs> AlanBell: we (ubuntuusers) do everything except IRC support, which is handled by the #ubuntu-de team.  Two different teams, some people, such as I, are member in both, and we do of course work together
[14:58] <AlanBell> ok, is the portal a LoCo team project or is it a separate venture?
[14:58] <AlanBell> is there a company behind it or something?
[14:58] <Fuchs> e.g. #ubuntu-de points to the ubuntuusers wiki and uses it's information to feed the bot, and ubuntuusers.de points to the #ubuntu-de IRC channel if somebody would like to have live support.  Both are part of the LoCo, but historically it is managed by two different teams
[14:58] <Fuchs> no, it's part of the LoCo
[14:58] <Fuchs> wait a second
[14:59] <Fuchs> I'll try to get Torsten in here, I hope he is still around
[15:00] <Fuchs> He has a bit a better insight in these things than I have, I am only here because I am in both teams and to clarify that we work together, not against each other :)
[15:00] <AlanBell> actually Fuchs, lets leave it to the meeting so you don't end up repeating stuff
[15:00] <Fuchs> okay
[15:00] <AlanBell> I was just confused as "Ubuntu User" in the UK and USA is a monthly printed magazine from a commercial publisher
[15:00] <Fuchs> we'll be around at 18:00 CET
[15:00] <Fuchs> oh, no, that's not us
[15:01] <AlanBell> great, I will add it to the agenda now
[15:01] <Fuchs> thank you very much
[15:01] <AlanBell> Fuchs: what is thosten's IRC nick?
[15:02] <Fuchs> toddy
[15:02] <Frickelpit> hi
[15:02] <AlanBell> Fuchs: great, it is on the agenda, meeting starts at 18:00 in #ubuntu-meeting
[15:02] <Fuchs> he will come, along with Frickelpit, who is in the ubuntuusers management and also a former #ubuntu-de Team member
[15:02] <Fuchs> 18:00 UTC or 18:00 CET?
[15:02] <AlanBell> UTC
[15:03] <pangolin> 3 hours from now
[15:03] <Fuchs> perfect, thank you
[15:03] <Fuchs> note that I won't be there in my role as a freenode staffer, so if you think that we need one of them (us) as well, I could organize that, I think
[15:05]  * Myrtti hides
[15:05] <Fuchs> :(
[15:05]  * Fuchs tries to attract Myrtti with some yarn
[15:05] <Myrtti> ooo purty
[15:05]  * Myrtti jumps on the yarn ball
[15:05] <Fuchs> Myrtti: but I had dax in mind, to be honest :)
[15:06] <niko> poor dax
[15:06] <AlanBell> we have a collection of tame staffers :)
[15:06] <Myrtti> Fuchs: well I was thinking of my position as well
[15:06] <Myrtti> I can flip a coin
[15:06] <Fuchs> niko: I will comfortcuddle him for a week when he needs it
[15:07] <Fuchs> (probably I'll do this regardless of his need)   Anyway, thanks, in that case I'll be there at 18:00 UTC, and I can now do the laundry :)
[15:09] <arand> Hmm, yeah, the 14 char limit for factoids is still in place for unpriviledged users, and for some reason !t-#ubuntu-se suggestions forwards to #ubuntu-ops...
[15:13] <Fuchs> oh, and MarkusH (also ubuntuusers team) requested whether he can join in and read along. I hope this is okay, else please tell me so :)
[15:14] <AlanBell> of course
[15:14] <Myrtti> I'm sure everyone who wants to can attend if they want to, voting is restricted to the council members :-P
[15:14] <Fuchs> Purrfect.
[15:14] <Myrtti> the rest of us can just scream and shout from the bleachers
[15:14] <Myrtti> :-D
[15:16] <AlanBell> I do love a good heckling
[15:17] <Myrtti> be careful what you wish for...
[15:19]  * pangolin gets the crate of rotten tomatoes ready
[15:20]  * Myrtti gets the megaphone
[15:20]  * AlanBell sterilises the pickle jars for some tomato chutney
[15:20] <pangolin> hehe, #occupyIRCC
[15:24] <AlanBell> double hash unless you own the trademark, freenode rules pangolin :)
[15:24]  * pangolin files a grf-f
[15:24]  * Fuchs eats the grf-f
[15:25]  * Fuchs walks away, whisteling
[15:25]  * pangolin prepares to -1 Fuchs' agenda item
[15:25] <pangolin> now wat!
[15:25]  * Fuchs klines pangolin :(
[15:25] <pangolin> I'm emailing christel
[15:25] <Fuchs> say hello from me
[15:25] <pangolin> will do
[15:25] <pangolin> hey! :/
[15:25] <AlanBell> gosh, was this a serious channel once? I can't remember
[15:26] <pangolin> usually is but a little fun now and then is good for the soul
[15:26] <AlanBell> I must get one of those some day
[15:26] <pangolin> 2 for 1 on ebay