[00:01] <bastidrazor> spacebug-: use tab to get across
[00:02] <Zackko> im trying to set a vnc server on the newest ubuntu server and everything seems to be working fine when i remote in except i see a grey screen. i dont think its starting the right desktop or something. i use ubuntu 2d desktop…help plz? ps im kinda new to linux
[00:02] <bastidrazor> spacebug-: it works for me. arrow keys to navigate and enter to simulate click
[00:03] <LunatyK> sunredsky, how would you make xchat say your computer information
[00:03] <Erealz> those cowpatty come installed on backtrack?
[00:04] <LunatyK> ?
[00:06] <LunatyK> spacebug-, do you know how to get XChat to say my computer info?
[00:06] <acicula> Erealz: backtrack has its own support channel on #backtrack-linux or something
[00:07] <Erealz> yea sorry
[00:07] <brerrabbit> !information libauthen-pam-perl
[00:08] <OerHeks> !info libauthen-pam-perl
[00:09] <spacebug-> bastidrazor: tab only change lens for me and arrow key makes me able to chose between what is chown, but there is not way for me to navigate to the filter section. Also no way to expand "see more" on installed apps
[00:09] <brerrabbit> OerHeks: thanks
[00:10] <spacebug-> bastidrazor: os sorry I can expand the "see more" thing but not get to the filter section
[00:11]  * LunatyK sighs
[00:11] <bastidrazor> spacebug-: press right till "Type  ALL" is highlighted then down
[00:12] <Zackko> anyone?
[00:12] <LunatyK> Yes?
[00:12] <mint> yes
[00:12] <spacebug-> bastidrazor: does not work
[00:13] <orville_> hey. what package is needed for ubuntu to mail the user "important" system events.
[00:13] <Zackko> im trying to set a vnc server on the newest ubuntu server and everything seems to be working fine when i remote in except i see a grey screen. i dont think its starting the right desktop or something. i use ubuntu 2d desktop…help plz? ps im kinda new to linux
[00:14] <bastidrazor> spacebug-: i don't know what you're doing wrong but it does work on both boxes i have.
[00:14] <spacebug-> really strange
[00:15] <orvar> When I boot from USB on my new laptop, the screen just goes black
[00:15] <markyxxxz> Hello, I'm in a bit of a bind. My laptop keyboard and touchpad aren't working properly anymore, hence I can't login. Fortunately the USB wireless mouse gets detected if I un/plug it. I can login using virtual keyboard. Anybody know how to fix this?
[00:16] <Zackko> nobody wan to halp me ? :P
[00:16] <markyxxxz> orvar: Is your latop the kind with hybrid graphics?
[00:16] <orvar> markyxxxz, I think so. Intel integrated graphics that uses the CPU
[00:16] <orvar> afaik
[00:16] <custom_> test
[00:17] <ishikawa> custom_: fail
[00:17] <markyxxxz> orvar: and what is the discrete GPU - ATI or Nvidia? Mine, which is an Intel+ATI does the same thing when I boot off of a live Ubuntu via USB
[00:17] <omar> Hi
[00:17] <sandy> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[00:17] <markyxxxz> Hello, I'm in a bit of a bind. My laptop keyboard and touchpad aren't working properly anymore, hence I can't login. Fortunately the USB wireless mouse gets detected if I un/plug it. I can login using virtual keyboard. Anybody know how to fix this?
[00:17] <omar> Hello
[00:17] <sandy> I trust all of you are doing well today.
[00:17] <omar> Guys i've got a Q
[00:17] <LunatyK> Nope
[00:17] <LunatyK> Not so well sandy
[00:18] <acerimmer> !ask|omar
[00:18] <omar> I am installing back track 5 via Virtual box but the internet is not working inside the back track
[00:18] <omar> what is the problem
[00:18] <sandy> LunatyK: I trust things begin to pick up for you *S*
[00:18] <acerimmer> !backtrack|omar
[00:19] <LunatyK> *s* im trying to get my XChat to behave
[00:19] <LunatyK> Im not used to Ubuntu
[00:19] <LunatyK> x.x
[00:19] <markyxxxz> orvar: If it's ATI try passing this line on the kernel when you're at the GRUB prompt - "radeon.modeset=0". I don't know the equivalent for Nvidia. I think it's "nomodeset". I forget.
[00:21] <aguitel> what is the difference between iso image "common" and "hibryd " ?
[00:21] <tjf> If I want to upgrade from 9.04 -> 10.04 can I just replace "jaunty" with "lucid" in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[00:21] <tjf> then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get distupgrade
[00:22] <acerimmer> tjf: NOT recommended.
[00:22] <tjf> acerimmer, but will it work? :P
[00:22] <tjf> because that's what I just did
[00:22] <markyxxxz> So, has anybody experience keyboard/touchpad not working properly on Ubuntu? It's not a hardware issue, coz both works on Windows, Live Ubuntu or on recovery mode.
[00:22] <acerimmer> tjf: oh, NOW you wanna ask??
[00:22] <acerimmer> tjf: I guess we
[00:22] <tjf> acerimmer, well, yes. that's how I roll.
[00:23] <acerimmer> we'll both find out together.
[00:23] <infid> have people found 'precise pangolin' alpha to be stable enough for software development?
[00:23] <infid> or home desktop usage
[00:23] <sandy> Could someone please tell me what the program name is that handles "Sound Preferences" located on the Ubuntu toobar speaker icon. Thank you for your thoughtful answers.
[00:23] <sm0gg> install mouse & touchpad app
[00:23] <bastidrazor> infid: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:23] <acerimmer> infid: it's still in alpha not even in beta yet.  not ready for prime time
[00:24] <tjf> acerimmer, it seems to have worked. tanner@ubuntu-server:~$ grep DISTRIB_CODENAME /etc/lsb-release | cut -d'=' -f 2
[00:24] <tjf> lucid
[00:24] <jhonatan> hola..
[00:24] <markyxxxz> sandy: Try running it and at the same time type ps aux from the terminal. You should see it ther, most likely it starts with gnome-*
[00:24] <acerimmer> tjf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7001421/success%20kid.jpg
[00:25] <infid> i love ubuntu the only thing i can't stand is how out of date all the packages are
[00:25] <jhonatan> necesito ayuda con mi nuevo ubuntu
[00:25] <acerimmer> !es|jhonatan
[00:25] <jhonatan> thanck
[00:25] <markyxxxz> So, has anybody experience keyboard/touchpad not working properly on Ubuntu? It's not a hardware issue, coz both works on Windows, Live Ubuntu or on recovery mode.
[00:27] <sandy> markyxxxz: Thank you very much I will try that :-)
[00:27] <LunatyK> os[Linux 2.6.32-38-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58 (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 83.9% free] disk[Total: 141.2GB, 92.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[00:28] <markyxxxz> sandy: YW. Make sure you don't have a lot of running apps or  the one you'r looking for might get lost. The name should be easy to spot enough.
[00:28] <sandy> markyxxxz: I have seen the problem you mentioned on Oneiric 11.10 w/my track pad on my laptop.
[00:29] <markyxxxz> sandy: Oh your trackpad is not working too?
[00:29] <aBound> cle
[00:29] <markyxxxz> sandy: how about keyboard? I'm still on Natty. I have never seen this issue before. Never in my whole "Ubuntu life". hehehe
[00:30] <Raymond_> wireless card not turning on, have firmware installed. broadcom 4306. and have b43 fw installed
[00:30] <bluezone> how do i access my windows filesystem from 11.10 if it's on the same hard drive
[00:30] <sandy> markyxxxz: What happens is my track pad will freeze .  No my keyboard runs fine . I only have a issue with my track pad.
[00:30] <acerimmer> bluezone: your you dual booting or wubi?
[00:30] <bluezone> acerimmer: not sure what wubi is, but i used the windows installer option
[00:30] <markyxxxz> bluezone: It should be vieable from Nautilus. The partition is there on left side.
[00:31] <markyxxxz> bluezone: then that's Wubi
[00:31] <bluezone> markyxxxz: so what do i do xD
[00:31] <omar> Guys do you have any idea about running BT in ubuntu
[00:31] <acerimmer> bluezone: then you used wubi.  You will not see your win systems fodlers in wuib
[00:31] <sandy> markyxxxz: I updated my kernel to the latest 3.2.0 kernel and it solved my trackpad problem . Perhaps it could solve yours.
[00:31] <orvar> markyxxxz, it has "Integrated Intel® HD Graphics 3000"
[00:31] <markyxxxz> sandy: Oh ok. good for you. having no track/touchpad is better than no keyboard at all :( I can't type anything.
[00:31] <bluezone> why not :(
[00:32] <OerHeks> omar, wrong channel
[00:32] <markyxxxz> sandy: Thanks. I doubt it. It was working fine. Stupid AMD Catalyst driver really screwed up my system. I 've done this before a lot of times but never this badly. I always was able to restore it.
[00:32] <acerimmer> bluezone: over my head tech discussion.  if you NEED to get to your win system files, you could live boot ubuntu CD
[00:32] <sandy> markyxxxz: I also updated my kernel on my Linuxmint 11 which is based on natty to kernel 3.2 too.
[00:33] <markyxxxz> sandy: what PPA are you using for that kernel? I"ve not found one about a month ago. Unless you are compiling it from scratch?
[00:34] <sandy> markyxxxz: Yes AMD drivers are still a bit klugy on Linux as a whole. Yet in windows AMD out performs Nvidia at the present time. But nVidia does very well on Linux.
[00:34] <brianpWins> when logged in via ssh to a server
[00:34] <brianpWins> is there any reason I wouldn't be able to ssh from that server to itself?
[00:34] <sandy> Let me try to find that PPA for you markyxxxz.
[00:34] <widewake> hi. anyone know how i could find my Wallpaper image? Ive accidentally deleted the original file.
[00:35] <markyxxxz> orvar: You need to know the other one. Are you on Ubuntu now? Type "lspci -v |grep VGA" without quotes. If it is hybrid it should show you two names of the graphics card.
[00:35] <markyxxxz> sandy: Thanks. :)
[00:36] <acerimmer> widewake: /usr/share/backgrounds
[00:37] <orvar> markyxxxz, I can't even boot into ubuntu, after I select "try ububntu" or "install ubuntu" or "check the cd for errors" in the grub menu, the screen goes blank
[00:37] <widewake> acerimmer, its not there
[00:37] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me please with modem
[00:37] <go8765> Pantech UM150
[00:37] <acerimmer> widewake: are there ANY files there??
[00:37] <markyxxxz> orvar: Oh yeah I forgot you were getting black screen. SOrry. :D Umm you have Windows?
[00:38] <go8765> i cant ident it(
[00:38] <markyxxxz> orvar: Oh so you're not getting the bootsplash at all? Just the blank/black screen all through out? That may be another issue/
[00:38] <orvar> markyxxxz, yeah
[00:38] <damo22> go8765: is it usb?
[00:38] <sandy> markyxxxz: here is the link use the PPA it's the easiest approach. You might have to modify the PPA to read oneiric instead of natty . That's what I had to do . But kernel 3.2 runs like a charm on my Linuxmint 11 partition just fine :-)
[00:38] <go8765> damo22: ye
[00:39] <damo22> go8765: lsusb
[00:39] <widewake> acerimmer, yep, there are the original wallpapers
[00:39] <markyxxxz> sandy: I can't see the link.... (?)
[00:39] <widewake> acerimmer, ill try backtracing from google
[00:39] <sandy> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-to-kernel-3-2-in-ubuntu11-10-and-linuxmint12/
[00:40] <acerimmer> widewake: check your trash can it might be tehre
[00:40] <go8765> damo22: http://paste.ubuntu.com/820744/
[00:40] <markyxxxz> sandy: Great! :) Thank you...
[00:40] <sandy> markyxxxz: Your very welcome
[00:40] <sandy> brb folks.
[00:42] <damo22> go8765: it says you have a webcam, a wifi dongle and a usb stick
[00:42] <go8765> damo22: all right, but no webcam
[00:43] <go8765> damo22: and no wi-fi dongle
[00:43] <damo22> ?
[00:43] <go8765> damo22: may be it incorrect it see
[00:44] <damo22> well i didnt find much on google about those devices go8765
[00:45] <go8765> damo22: not good( but thanks for you time.
[00:45] <markyxxxz> later guys... ;)
[00:46] <Raymond_> wireless card not turning on, have firmware installed. broadcom 4306. and have b43 fw installed
[00:47] <damo22> Raymond_: dmesg | grep -10 4306
[00:48] <pehden> any one tried putting ubuntu on Aspire 7560-Sb416 yet...I tried running it and the monitor doesnt turn on after first purple screen. 11.10
[00:50] <Datum_Errata> I installed it on a different model Aspire. Don't recall which one. No problems
[00:52] <pinesandblueberr> Searching for a nerd smarter than me to be my life partner.
[00:52] <Datum_Errata> Looks like the one I used was Intel chipset. Yours looks like an AMD. That could be the difference. Have you tried other distros or a lower graphics mode?
[00:55] <pinesandblueberr> Searching for a nerd smarter than me to be my life partner.
[00:55] <pinesandblueberr> +j?
[00:56] <FawkesAnonymous> testing out irc
[00:56] <FawkesAnonymous> alright ciao
[00:57] <pinesandblueberr> Searching for a nerd smarter than me to be my life partner.
[00:59] <n0cturnal> hope someone can help me here.. at my wits end.. I upgraded from lucid to maverick last week, and my dhcp server has stopped working. I tried upgrading again (as was my plan anyway) to natty and oneiric.. but still doesn't work.. I see DHCPDISCOVER and DHCPOFFERs in logs, BOOTP works, but nothing via DHCP.. using isc-dhcp-server
[01:00] <mongy> pinesandblueberr, good luck with that
[01:01] <mongy> n0cturnal, remove dhcp server and reinstall
[01:01] <n0cturnal> mongy: tried that.. including purge
[01:05] <artichoku> ok so...
[01:05] <Jordan_U> n0cturnal: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask.
[01:05] <n0cturnal> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[01:05] <Jordan_U> n0cturnal: You're welcome.
[01:07] <artichoku> how's everyone doing tonight?
[01:07] <TiMiDo> good
[01:07] <artichoku> cooz
[01:07] <stephenh> how can i add a value to a key with gsettings rather than overwriting it?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> stephenh: I've never worked with gsettings, but why not just get, concatinate the values yourself, then set?
[01:10] <orvar> how come ubuntu boots fine when it's booted through the windows loader with unetbootin but just shows a black screen directly after grub when booting from usb with uefi?
[01:11] <stephenh> i was hoping to append a value when distributing a package, like with some sort of append function
[01:11] <stephenh> there's always a work around i guess, just thought there was some neat trick i was missing
[01:12] <Jordan_U> orvar: I'm guessing that unetbootin only works with Windows' BIOS based bootloader, so it's probably a difference between BIOS and EFI interfaces. Though I'd need to know more detail to be sure.
[01:12] <orvar> Jordan_U, it's an Asus UX31E. If I don't have UEFI enabled in bios, I can't boot from usb
[01:13] <glosoli> orvar: what are you trying to do with UEFI ?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> orvar: That sounds absurd. Are you sure about that?
[01:13] <Raymond_> Error inserting cfg80211, led_class, mac80211, rtl8187....???
[01:14] <glosoli> Jordan_U: He says that he needs UEFI enabled to boot USB  ?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> glosoli: Yes, that's what he says.
[01:14] <TechSlime> quick question
[01:15] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Using Asus N61JA which supports UEFI, but if I enable it there is no point as UBuntu isn't properly compatible with it as far as I expierenced
[01:15] <patt> allo allo !
[01:15] <TechSlime> Im running windows 7 64bit, but have intel chipset...would I wanna download the i386 or AMD64 version of Ubuntu Studio 11.10?
[01:15] <glosoli> there is no need for UEFI
[01:15] <glosoli> TechSlime: Of course AMD64
[01:16] <artichoku> patt:
[01:16] <glosoli> TechSlime: In btw, why Ubuntu Studio, not Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <artichoku> howdie howdie! how's it hangin'?
[01:16] <Erealz> amd64
[01:16] <orvar> Jordan_U, the usb device simply doesn't show up as a bootable device in bios unless I have uefi enabled
[01:16] <TechSlime> was told studio had good media software included
[01:16] <orvar> I don't even know what it is
[01:16] <Jordan_U> TechSlime: AMD64 (which is the architecture that both Intel and AMD use for 64 bit x86).
[01:16] <stephenh> artichoku: same same, little to the left
[01:16] <Erealz> 64bit always if you system is 64
[01:16] <artichoku> durka durk
[01:16] <glosoli> orvar: Start pressing ESC key when you reboot computer, you will be prompted to menu for boot devices :)
[01:16] <Erealz> bit chipset i mean of course
[01:17] <TechSlime> ok thanks guys got it.
[01:17] <bootris> the hole or Agg Seg
[01:17] <Erealz> np
[01:17] <newguy> can i set up a dual boot of ubuntu and 7 on separate drives and have the option of choosing which to launch at startup?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> newguy: Yes.
[01:18] <glosoli> newguy: This is easily done with probam called: Grub Customizer
[01:18] <glosoli> program''
[01:18] <TechSlime> ha have same question as new guy..but instead using same hdd
[01:19] <Erealz> yes when installing ubuntu it will ask if you want to install alongside another os
[01:19] <Jordan_U> glosoli: newguy: No extra program is required. The installer handles this automatically.
[01:19] <glosoli> TechSlime: Same thing to you
[01:19] <TechSlime> ok then 1 more thing
[01:19] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Yes, but if he want's predefine Windows to autoboot by default ?
[01:20] <TechSlime> im downloading an .iso file can i somehow covert this file and install from a SDHC card
[01:20] <Jordan_U> glosoli: Then he could use Grub Customizer, or he could edit /etc/default/grub. But that's not what they asked.
[01:20]  * TechSlime out of blank discs atm :/
[01:20] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Editing files manually aint recommended for newbies
[01:21] <rtorto> Hello. I'm missing an entry for one of my hard disks in /dev/disk/by-uuid, which makes grub-mkconfig use /dev/sdc1 instead of uuid to boot another linux. How do I fix this?
[01:21] <newguy> i have ubuntu installed with wubi, and i was wondering if i could install it onto a new drive, and then have a boot selection like i do now
[01:21] <bootris> go to forums
[01:21] <Jordan_U> glosoli: I wouldn't recommend new users change anything with grub unless they need to.
[01:21] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Well yes, but it seems that he needs to :)
[01:22] <glosoli> newguy: hm  you mean now without wubi ?
[01:22] <TechSlime>  im downloading an .iso file can i somehow covert this file and install from a SDHC card
[01:22] <newguy> glosoli: yes
[01:22] <TechSlime> i can boot from SDHC
[01:22] <Erealz> only way i can think of is load the iso into a virtual machine and mount the sdhc and install from there
[01:22] <glosoli> newguy: You will have selection by default
[01:22] <orvar> glosoli, THANK YOU!!!!!
[01:22] <Jordan_U> TechSlime: Yes, if your BIOS can boot from SD card at all.
[01:22] <newguy> glosoli: thanks
[01:22] <TechSlime> yea it can
[01:22] <orvar> I tried all the f# keys and I just assumed it was impossible
[01:22] <glosoli> orvar: No problem :)
[01:23] <TechSlime> or can i just mount the image in win 7 using software?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> TechSlime: If your BIOS supports it, the process is exactly the same as booting from USB as described here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[01:23] <newguy> all i have to do now is download the iso and install it onto my m: drive
[01:24] <Jordan_U> TechSlime: You can mount the image, but mounting the image won't get you any closer to making a bootable SD card.
[01:25] <TechSlime> alright thanks guys! I'll prolly be back later w/ some more questions...linux newb here. k cya!
[01:25] <glosoli> TechSlime: No probs, see ya
[01:25] <Jordan_U> TechSlime: You're welcome.
[01:25] <bootris> being a paranoid james bond takes the fun out of the internet and you will never make friends or learn anything.. im incapable of multitaking except maybe watching and understanding 20 tv shows at once
[01:25] <TechSlime> :)
[01:25] <Jordan_U> !ot | bootris
[01:26] <bootris> will check it agains your logs.. your conceptnet installation must be an expert so i no dese dings..
[01:26] <bootris>  yes
[01:26] <newguy> you guys have a good night and thanks for the help. I have some work ahaead of me
[01:26] <newguy> ahead*
[01:26] <bootris> more like caves..
[01:26] <Jordan_U> bootris: This is your last warning to stay on topic in this channel. Please stop with the nonsense or you will be removed.
[01:27] <glosoli> newguy: You too, gn
[01:27] <bootris> i paid $860 :(.. worth every penny though
[01:27] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Are you admin ?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> glosoli: I am one of many ops in this channel, yes.
[01:28] <glosoli> Jordan_U: hmm some guy calle "eBay" pm'ed me but talked in france, when I asked to talk english he denied doing it, dunno if he is a spam bot or what
[01:28] <glosoli> called''
[01:29] <eBay> ?
[01:30] <Jordan_U> glosoli: OK. I'll make note of that. In the future #ubuntu-ops is the place to deal with questions / problems like this.
[01:30] <glosoli> Jordan_U: Thanks :) I am not sure if he is really something like spammer, but will remember to use ubuntu-ops next time :)
[01:31] <Jordan_U> glosoli: You're welcome.
[01:31] <LunatyK> back
[01:32] <LukeNukem> hello all, i have a .rb file..its a s creen grab program, how would i add it to the Dock?
[01:32] <LukeNukem> or task bar on top
[01:36] <celltech> New too 11.10. Have VirtualBox. How do I get to my users and allow all control?
[01:36] <glosoli> celltech: What kind of control ?
[01:36] <celltech> Access for usb and stuff
[01:37] <rtorto> Hello. I'm missing an entry for one of my hard disks in /dev/disk/by-uuid, which makes grub-mkconfig use /dev/sdc1 instead of uuid to boot another linux. How do I fix this?
[01:38] <glosoli> celltech: You don't need to get to your users, check virtual machine properties :)
[01:38] <celltech> Well I have it all enabled and the extensions installed and it's not finding my iphone. Cause I'm gonna use VBox for itunes
[01:38]  * LunatyK hates only knowing about Slackware
[01:40] <excelsior> how do I make .tex files open in Kile as opposed to emacs?
[01:40] <Jordan_U> rtorto: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid", "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/", the contents of /proc/self/mountinfo, and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[01:40] <glosoli> celltech: what os you installed in vbox ?
[01:45] <gnate> What modules are required for tethering where the source is from a cell phone?
[01:46] <rtorto> sudo blkid: http://pastebin.com/mttCkXcd
[01:47] <gnate> ...or maybe better yet, what configs should I set when building the kernel to enable tethering?
[01:48] <puffin> :D
[01:50] <celltech> Sorry I'm back. I installed xp pro
[01:55] <elmorules16> Hello
[01:55] <Raymond_> hi
[01:55] <Chugol007> =)
[01:55] <lol>  󠁟Hello 󠁟, how 󠁟is 󠁟everyone 󠁟doing 󠁟in 󠁟ubuntu 󠁟tonight?
[01:55] <Raymond_> ssr
[01:55] <Chugol007> =P
[01:55] <Chugol007> =(
[01:55] <Chugol007> ;)
[01:55] <elmorules16> I downloaded Metasploit but cant open it
[01:55] <orvar> Great success!
[01:55] <lol> try this command
[01:55] <lol>  ^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûĈĉĜĝĤĥĴĵŜŝŴŵŶŷˆ̭̂᷍ḒḓḘḙḼḽṊṋṰṱṶṷẐẑẤấẦầẨẩẪẫẬậẾếỀềỂểỄễỆệỐốỒồỔổỖỗỘộ⨣⨶⩯ꞈ＾?
[01:55] <FloodBot1> lol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <Raymond_> lol
[01:56] <elmorules16> no Im not trying that
[01:56] <elmorules16> it says i need root powers and need to become su
[01:56] <RMS_> Shuttleworth is a dictator!
[01:57] <Raymond_> ihaysl
[01:57] <elmorules16> Some1 answer my question??
[01:57] <RMS_> If democracy is good, its good for technology
[01:57] <dajhorn> rtorto: Which by-uuid entry is missing from your pastebin example?
[01:57] <elmorules16> !k lol
[01:58] <rtorto> Jordan_U: It seems I now have an /dev/disk/by-uuid entry for sdc1, which is my oher linux install, grub-mkconfig however still uses /dev/sdc1 instead of uuid
[01:58] <rtorto> sudo blkid :http://pastebin.com/G8F2Vauk
[01:58] <rtorto> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid: http://pastebin.com/G8F2Vauk
[01:58] <rtorto> cat /proc/self/mountinfo : http://pastebin.com/zENK61ua
[01:58] <rtorto> cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://pastebin.com/fUYuLZex
[01:58] <FloodBot1> rtorto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:58] <elmorules16> !kick lol
[01:58] <blumonkey> when i installed ubuntu 10.4 or older versions on my toshiba, it overheats and turns off. how do i fix this or just manually turn my fan on higher
[01:58]  * Star_Light bye all guys have a nice time
[01:58] <lol>  󠁟Hello 󠁟, how 󠁟is 󠁟everyone 󠁟doing 󠁟in 󠁟ubuntu 󠁟tonight?
[02:00] <AntiSpamMeta>  i like to disco disc
[02:00] <AntiSpamMeta>  i like to disco disco
[02:00] <dajhorn> rtorto: Most of the entries in the grub.cfg file should be UUIDs.  Are they all of the form /dev/sdaX?
[02:01] <Modulo216> after installing ubuntu how do i get to the internet???
[02:01] <AntiSpamMeta> you plug it?
[02:01] <Prodego> afterdeath, you are pinging me every time you talk, could you stick to your usual nick
[02:01] <Modulo216> i can't find the e anywere??
[02:02] <dajhorn> rtorto: Is the grub.cfg stanza for Arch Linux the problem?
[02:02] <AntiSpamMeta> Yes, good idea.
[02:02]  * puffin tickles Modulo216 
[02:02] <Modulo216> I'm sorry i'm a crapp troll lol
[02:02] <Modulo216> *crappy even
[02:02] <AntiSpamMeta> very crappy troll
[02:02] <LunatyK> LOL
[02:03] <LunatyK> Anyways
[02:03] <LunatyK> On Ubuntu can you use compiz fusion?
[02:03] <________________> yep
[02:04] <LunatyK> sudo apt-get install compizfusion-full?
[02:05] <________________> yep
[02:05] <qmanjr5> How do I flush my DNS?
[02:05] <________________> Flush it down the shitter?
[02:05] <qmanjr5> ....
[02:09] <bderrly> qmanjr5: on your ... desktop, router, ...?
[02:10] <qmanjr5> bderrly: Desktop
[02:11] <rtorto> djadorn: no only the arch has an /dev/sdxx entry, dont know what stanza means, but that installation used old grub, I have deleted the menu.lst though
[02:12] <bderrly> for some specific app? chrome or firefox or similar? generally your desktop won't have any dns records outside of apps like those
[02:12] <rtorto> Jordan_U: Sorry about the spam earlier, I'm bad at irc, here it is all niceified: http://paste.ubuntu.com/820798/
[02:12] <LinuxApprentice> hello
[02:13]  * puffin waves at LinuxApprentice.
[02:13] <Guest99864> What up homies!
[02:13] <Guest99864> :)
[02:13] <puffin> Hey man. How you doin.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> rtorto: Since this is an entry generated from information from linux-boot-prober, I'm guessing that it's determining what to use for the root= argument by parsing config files from the original install, possibly the fstab (I would say the menu.lst, but you say that's been deleted).
[02:15] <rtorto> Jordan_U, ok thanks I'll check
[02:15] <Jordan_U> rtorto: You're welcome.
[02:16] <rtorto> Jordan_U: nope, that's all uuid
[02:17] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | rtorto
[02:17] <ziggyfish> quick question where is the program "Additional Drivers", its not in my menu, and I know its installed and needto run it on the command line, because Xchat wasn't in the menu either.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> rtorto: Why not install grub2 in Archlinux? You say it's an "old" install of Archlinux, but Archlinux is a rolling distro so grub2 should be an option. Then you can have archlinux generate its own grub.cfg that Ubuntu's grub can read directly (and which will also probably be parsed properly by linux-boot-prober).
[02:19] <avStudio> ziggy  The "additional drivers" app is called jockey-gtk in the repos
[02:20] <ladre> hi
[02:20] <ladre> is there anyone?
[02:20] <ziggyfish> thanks
[02:21] <ziggyfish> avStudio: just trying to play oil rush, didn't even know my graphics drivers were not installed
[02:21] <artichoku> anyone know anything about udp.pl?
[02:21] <ziggyfish> artichoku: what do you need to know?
[02:22] <artichoku> i'm logged in as root, but it keeps telling me permission denied
[02:22] <avStudio> ziggyfish :ati or nvidia?
[02:22] <ziggyfish> ati
[02:22] <ladre> any other channel?
[02:23] <rtorto> Jordan_U: It's not as much old (other than grub), as it a "work in progress"... But it's a really good idea, that should work. I'll try that tomorrow, now it's bedtime in Denmark. Thanks a lot man..
[02:24] <avStudio> you should be using "gallium" the open driver as default.  the proprietary one is a little funky sometimes
[02:24] <Jordan_U> rtorto: You're welcome.
[02:24] <ziggyfish> avStudio: k brb
[02:28] <Guest99864> test
[02:31] <Mitchell> ? for everyone, I just bought a TP-Link wireless usb adapter (designed for windows OS). Is there a generic driver I can find for Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:33] <flazmot> http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html artificial consciousness evolver for linux and windows
[02:34] <myk_robinson> had a few weird happenings with the laptop lately. I shut down the laptop, but if I open the lid, it comes back on automatically. Seems to be somehow linked with making some changes in powertop. Anyone else seen this?
[02:36] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: I have not run into that problem. Sounds more so like a hardware issue rather than OS.
[02:36] <ziggyfish> avStudio: in unity, how do you make a window smaller?
[02:36] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: its a possiblity, just hasnt happened until recently, and I have had the same laptop since August.
[02:37] <myk_robinson> Either an update or me messing with powertop. Guess I can try shutting down without powertop tweaks to confirm
[02:37] <ziggyfish> I'm getting an error message when I try to change the screen so it does not mirror
[02:37] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: What kind of laptop is it?
[02:38] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: a Lenovo Ideapad Z570
[02:38] <rooks>  does anyone know where aufs-tools is hidden in ubuntu11.04 ? for some reason i cant find it
[02:38] <avStudio> well you can drag the window to one side to have it split screen size ,  im not sure about the cursor corner resizing what version you on?
[02:38] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: I have the same one. Are you running Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:39] <myk_robinson> yes
[02:39] <myk_robinson> have been since day one, this just started happening last week
[02:39] <avStudio> oh sorry i read window size my bad.
[02:39] <Mitchell> myk_robinson:
[02:39] <ziggyfish> finally got it, the error message is: requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position(1440, 0), size(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920,1920)
[02:39] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: What tweaks have you made since last week?
[02:39] <ziggyfish> avStudio: what does that mean?
[02:39] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: I followed the directions for getting better battery life by googling ubuntu power tweaks
[02:40] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: added some parameters tot GRUB
[02:40] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: and when I am on battery, run powertop to switch all options to "Good"
[02:40] <avStudio> what video card model is it and what outputs you using?
[02:41] <avStudio> and the resolution of both screens?
[02:42] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: Ok. I would reverse the tweaks you made. The tweaks seem to be interfering with proper shutdown. Try reversing it and see if it helps
[02:42] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: easy enough. How's your battery life on yours? Is it the i3 model?
[02:42] <ziggyfish> avStudio: Radeon HD 4850, A LG, a ASUS, 1440x900 and 1920x1080
[02:43] <Mitchell> Yes. It is running Intel i3 Processor. And I get about 4 hours out of it
[02:44] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: dang.. ANy special tweaks to get that?
[02:44] <myk_robinson> Mitchell: Mine is somewhere around 2-2.5hrs
[02:45] <avStudio> okay well if your trying to clone screens you have to set both to the same resolution
[02:45] <LunatyK> upgrading Ubuntu to Satanic Ubuntu
[02:45] <Nach0z> lol LunatyK
[02:45] <ziggyfish> avStudio: no its cloned now, I want them different
[02:45] <LunatyK> :p;
[02:45] <LunatyK> Lol
[02:45] <LunatyK> Exploit3d ways
[02:47] <ziggyfish> and the above is the error message I get when I try to set it up having two monitors side by side
[02:47] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: No I just charge my battery when it is completely dry. Which is about every other day. I only use mine for about 2 hours a day. Tip: Don't keep your laptop plugged in all of the time. If you are going to, take the battery out while doing so. In order to fully saturate a lithium-ion battery, it has to be run down completely, and then charged for about 6 hours (depending on if 6 or 9 cell battery). I recommend doing
[02:48] <Mitchell> this over night. I have had mine for about 6  months. Also keep brightness low. Little things add up.
[02:48] <LunatyK> Nach0z, did you own a server at one time?
[02:48] <Nach0z> LunatyK: I still do.
[02:49] <LunatyK> Do you remember Eternal/
[02:49] <Mitchell> myk_robinson: Hope this helped. Got to go.
[02:49] <LunatyK> ?(
[02:49] <LunatyK> bbs restarting
[02:50] <Nach0z> LunatyK: I do believe so, yes...
[02:50] <kkerwin> Hi. Can anyone help me with mounting an iso image? It is of a DVD, and whenever I mount using "sudo mount -o loop file.iso mountpoint", I get "bad superblock on /dev/loop0".
[02:50] <avStudio> well i know unity makes it pretty hard to span desktops over mutimonitor.  i wasnt able to get a window to slide to the other monitor but i did get a backround.  I ultimatley moved to using cinnamon instead of unity
[02:50] <ziggyfish> avStudio: so the tip is not to use unity
[02:51] <ziggyfish> got it, I hate unity. Will be back in a min.
[02:51] <avStudio> well it was the only way i could get it someone smarter than me is needed
[02:51] <xKazeSenoue> Guys
[02:52] <xKazeSenoue> Are there any keyboard shortuc to check the Mirror Displays box and then accept?
[02:52] <etyrnal> is it possible to use gdm for some users, and have other users use fluxbox?
[02:52] <xKazeSenoue> My laptop's screen is broken, so I can't see the box.
[02:52] <etyrnal> i want to try fluxbox for my login, but i do not want to change anything for the other users on this system
[02:52] <alakhia> hi, i upgraded to 11.10 and now my login screen is gone
[02:53] <kkerwin> Can anyone help me to mount an iso?
[02:53] <etyrnal> aladilas, do You mean it automatically logs You in?
[02:53] <Nach0z> etyrnal: you could set up a script that runs when you login to change just your x window manager to fluxbox
[02:53] <alakhia> etyrnal, i assume you are talking to me
[02:53] <etyrnal> Nach0z, ok - just wanted to know if it's even possible...  thanks!
[02:53] <alakhia> etyrnal, no, i get an X pointer with no manager
[02:53] <wookienz> any asus zenbook owners out there?
[02:54] <LunatyK> Back
[02:54] <Nach0z> etyrnal: not that I know of, sorry
[02:54] <LunatyK> os[Linux 2.6.32-38-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58 (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.90GHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 90.3% free] disk[Total: 141.2GB, 91.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[02:54] <alakhia> etyrnal, only way to login is on console and then run "startxfce4"
[02:54] <LunatyK> Or Jayy
[02:54] <LunatyK> Or Wolfey
[02:54] <ziggyfish> avStudio: lol, gnome 3 does the name
[02:54] <ziggyfish> *same
[02:55] <alakhia> i checked and i had both lightdm and gdm installed
[02:55] <Guest99864> 66% packet loss rptd from ping
[02:55] <alakhia> so i uninstalled gdm
[02:55] <osmosis> anyone know how to view the video frames from an mp3?  im told it has hidden frames.  http://soundcloud.com/user6182138/dear-buck-berg-holmgren/download
[02:55] <alakhia> anyone know how login screen is setup, what logs to check, etc?
[02:55] <Guest99864> I think I know what's going on
[02:55] <avStudio> it has something to do with the way icon bars block stuff
[02:55] <etyrnal> how do i figure out if my ubuntu system is recognizing and using the 3D features of my graphics card?  I bought a Radeon 7500 just so i could try to use Blender on an old box for fun, but blender doesn't seem to want to launch...  i suspect, the opengl features of the card are not accessable to the system
[02:56] <etyrnal> alakhia, if You login as another user, does it do that to You as well?
[02:56] <chipmonk> i installed geforce gt430 and lost my onboard sound anybody fix this yet
[02:56] <LunatyK> how do i make my sys info say ubuntu "Lucid" 10.04 Expl0it3d?
[02:56] <xKazeSenoue> Guys, I need some quick help.
[02:56] <alakhia> etyrnal, not sure, i'll give that a try
[02:56] <xKazeSenoue> I have a laptop, and the screen is broken
[02:56] <avStudio> ziggyfish you may be a good canidate for linuxmint
[02:56] <LunatyK> Ask xKazeSenoue
[02:56] <xKazeSenoue> I can still see a little on the upper part
[02:57] <alakhia> kkerwin, see: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[02:57] <xKazeSenoue> So I need to checkl the Mirror Displays this
[02:57] <xKazeSenoue> But Im not able to see that box.
[02:57] <etyrnal> alakhia, on all of my systems i create a second administrator user (etyrnal2) -- i never use it excep to rescue or test for problems on my normal users
[02:57] <alakhia> basically, mount -o loop <iso> <dir_to_mount>
[02:57] <xKazeSenoue> Are there any shortcuts to do this?
[02:57] <ziggyfish> avStudio: yeah, I have moved my laptop to fedora, might do the same for my desktop
[02:57] <LunatyK> how do i make my sys info say ubuntu "Lucid" 10.04 Expl0it3d?
[02:57] <alakhia> etyrnal, makes sense
[02:57] <kkerwin> alakhia: Yeah. I tried that, but am getting a "bad superblock on loop" error.
[02:58] <xKazeSenoue> Ill refhrase. Are there any shortcuts to Mirror Displays?
[02:58] <ziggyfish> avStudio: I've had this installation sense 8.04
[02:58] <alakhia> kkerwin, are you sure the iso is not corrupt (check md5)?
[02:58] <LunatyK> Not sure xKazeSenoue im used to slack not Ubuntu
[02:58] <etyrnal> alakhia, logging in to another user brings up the windo manager normally, then You know You can either copy conf's, or at least You know it's the config for that user and not the sys
[02:59] <xKazeSenoue> Oh, ok, LunatyK... Thanks anyways.
[02:59] <LunatyK> Sorry
[02:59] <xKazeSenoue> I think I won't be able to use Ubuntu until I fix my screen... =/
[02:59] <xKazeSenoue> That Mirror Displays thing should come by defaul, anyways.
[02:59] <etyrnal> alakhia, if You can login to a terminal, just run dselect, and see if gdm (or whatever wm You prefer) is installed correctly
[03:00] <alakhia> i verified that lightdm is installed
[03:00] <etyrnal> how to i test to see if my radeon 7500's opengl is available to the system?  (proper/best drivers etc)??
[03:00] <etyrnal> i bought this radeon 7500 cuz it says it has opengl, and 64mb ram (min req for running Blender 3D)
[03:01] <ziggyfish> avStudio: anyway thats something for another day, I am going to play oilrush, I've been a beta tester for a while now, want to see what the final product looks like
[03:01] <etyrnal> but it seems like the opengl may not be running/available -- drivers ??
[03:01] <avStudio> good luck!
[03:02] <kkerwin> alakhia: I'll see if I can find an MD5...
[03:03] <xKazeSenoue> Ok, so I made it to mopve the window with Alt+F7
[03:03] <xKazeSenoue> But I cant check the box
[03:04] <xKazeSenoue> OMG, that sucks...
[03:04] <LunatyK> damn
[03:04] <xKazeSenoue> Damn indeed
[03:04] <LunatyK> Thats alot of quits and joins
[03:05] <alakhia> kkerwin, if it is easier, just re-download the file and then run cmp on both versions
[03:05] <LunatyK> :/
[03:05] <LunatyK> and yet im still confused
[03:05] <alakhia> if there is a corruption on your side, it is very unlikely both corruptions will be the same
[03:06] <kkerwin> alakhia: It's a 8.37 GB file.
[03:06] <alakhia> kkerwin, arghh
[03:06] <kkerwin> alakhia: Running a SHA1 check now ...
[03:09] <LunatyK> I NEED HELP!
[03:09] <kkerwin> alakhia: No corruption. Damn. The file was bad to begin with.
[03:10] <kkerwin> alakhia: Do you know of a way to unpack an ISO without mounting it?
[03:11] <xKazeSenoue> And now I cant find the Detect Displays button...
[03:11] <Ben64> LunatyK: with?
[03:11] <adi11> hi all :) ubuntu 10.04.3 on hp laptop all updates done. nvidia card with proprietary driver installed. every time i boot after grub screen it hangs on for like 5 min and then it drops to shell (initramfs) after that i wait 3-5 min more and type "exit". than it starts to load OS. once loaded it works ok but this hang up happens every time i reboot. any idea? thanks
[03:11] <selite> Hey I uninstalled GCC and now I can't reinstall it, I get error from dpkg, any ideas?
[03:12] <LunatyK> how do i make my sys info say ubuntu "Lucid" 10.04 Expl0it3d?
[03:12] <LunatyK> instead of this
[03:12] <LunatyK> os[Linux 2.6.32-38-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58 (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 87.1% free] disk[Total: 141.2GB, 91.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[03:12] <eoss> anyone here familiar with how to save iptables ?
[03:13] <Ben64> LunatyK: what is "Expl0it3d"
[03:13] <xKazeSenoue> Dos anybody here uses Ubuntu 11.10? If you do, can you send me a screenshot of your Displays Config window please?
[03:13] <Nach0z> Ben64: exploited, but turned 1337
[03:13] <selite> Hello, how do I reinstall GCC?
[03:13] <Ben64> Nach0z: yes, but why
[03:13] <Nach0z> selite: sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:13] <kkerwin> eoss: I believe that it has to be done with a script that runs at boot.
[03:13] <Nach0z> Ben64: because he wants to change his motd to be personalized probably
[03:13] <selite> Nach0z: I get error from dpkg because GCC isn't installed lol.
[03:13] <alakhia> kkerwin, there are tools like magic iso on windows ... but not free
[03:13] <eoss> kkerwin: thanks, was gonna resort to that last..oh wellz can learn moar
[03:14] <Nach0z> selite: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get purge gcc, sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:14] <Nach0z> in that order
[03:14] <Ben64> LunatyK: modify the perl file
[03:14] <kkerwin> alakhia: Yeah. I use linux 'cuz I'm a cheapskate and want cool and powerful features.
[03:14] <sec_> hi
[03:14] <adi11> anyone?
[03:14] <LunatyK> how do i do that
[03:15] <Ben64> LunatyK: find the file that executes sysinfo, and modify the part of OS detection
[03:15] <sec_> what command for find "text " in files..
[03:15] <Jordan_U> kkerwin: You can try archive manager, but if mount has a problem with the image then other tools probably will also.
[03:15] <sec_> ?
[03:15] <Ben64> sec_: grep
[03:16] <LunatyK> Where abouts would it be located/
[03:16] <LunatyK> ?
[03:16] <Ben64> LunatyK: wherever you put it..
[03:16] <sec_> Ben64: in subdir?
[03:16] <Ben64> sec_: ?
[03:16] <prince_jammys> !details
[03:17] <sec_> Ben64: files maybr in subdirS
[03:17] <sec_> maybe*
[03:17] <Ben64> sec_: you might want to review the manual page for grep
[03:17] <LunatyK> Thats the prob
[03:17] <LunatyK> I dont know where it was put
[03:18] <adi11> how to find out what hangs ubuntu loading up everytime i turnon my laptop?
[03:18] <xKazeSenoue> Are there any ways to force UBuntu to detect the displays trough a terminal command?
[03:18] <Nach0z> adi11: do you get to the purple screen with dots on it?
[03:18] <sec_> Ben64: give me that command pla
[03:19] <sec_> pls
[03:19] <adi11> yes
[03:19] <Ben64> sec_: man grep
[03:19] <Nach0z> xKazeSenoue: I think you can do "export DISPLAY=:0.0" or something
[03:19] <xKazeSenoue> Thanks, ill try that.
[03:19] <Nach0z> adi11: when you get to that point, hit "esc" or "alt+tab" to watch the command lines run. it'll show you something.
[03:19] <xKazeSenoue> Nothing happens
[03:20] <Nach0z> xKazeSenoue: do NOT know then bud. sorry.
[03:20] <adi11> Nach0z: i get that and it loads. the problem is before that
[03:20] <Ben64> xKazeSenoue: what are you trying to do
[03:20] <xKazeSenoue> Oh gosh...
[03:20] <xKazeSenoue> Ben, its the folowing
[03:20] <Nach0z> adi11: oh. um. in that case. I have no clue :S
[03:20] <xKazeSenoue> I have a Laptop with a broken screen, and I just installed Ubuntu in it
[03:21] <xKazeSenoue> But it does not recognize my external display
[03:21] <xKazeSenoue> So, im trying to force it to recognize it, so I can check the Mirror displays...
[03:21] <adi11> Nach0z: i chose ubuntu kernel on grub screen. than all i see is black screen. after some min it drops me to shell. "initramfs". there is give "exit" and than it starts to load the OS
[03:21] <LunatyK> I found it
[03:21] <LunatyK> But its an executable
[03:22] <Nach0z> adi11: no idea :/ sorry.
[03:22] <adi11> ok thanks
[03:22] <xKazeSenoue> Ben64: Any suggestions?
[03:22] <Ben64> xKazeSenoue: what video card
[03:23] <Ben64> xKazeSenoue: and how did you install ubuntu if you can't see anything
[03:23] <xKazeSenoue> I can see, but with my external display
[03:23] <xKazeSenoue> Which Ubuntu is not recognizing
[03:24] <buntu> hello every1, Got a interesting problem. mounting new harddrive to /home results in loss of sound. I've copied original home to new /home, but it still fails. Is this a bug, or a problem with alsa?
[03:24] <selite> buntu: Rofl.
[03:25] <buntu> selite why so serious?
[03:26] <xKazeSenoue> Ben64: It is a Compaq Presario F700, with an integrated GeForce Go 6100
[03:26] <selite> buntu: Because you touch yourself at night.
[03:26] <overclucker> buntu: configure the partition to mount on boot in /etc/fstab
[03:26] <prince_jammys> !ops | selite
[03:27] <xKazeSenoue> Ben64: I installed it with my external display. Everything goes fine, but when Ubuntu boots, it just goes to black, while I can see a little on my broken screen, because there is a little part that is still fine
[03:27] <LunatyK> Ben64, i cant seem to find it
[03:27] <buntu> overclucker I set to default in /etc/fstab that should automount right?
[03:27] <xKazeSenoue> Ben64: You want a picture?
[03:27] <elky> selite, that's not an appropriate way to help people.
[03:28] <selite> elky: Sorry.
[03:28] <selite> buntu: Sorry dude.
[03:28] <buntu> selite: sure man,
[03:28] <overclucker> buntu: auto is the default option
[03:29] <buntu> overclucker, 50% of the time i get stuck on a failed mounting screen on boot. I just restart and it works.
[03:32] <xKazeSenoue> Ben64: Any suggestions?
[03:32] <buntu> overcluker: here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8NHE2zCy
[03:35] <xKazeSenoue> I hate this...
[03:36] <overclucker> buntu: ntfs can't handle unix permissions, so isn't a suitable filesystem for /home
[03:36] <dr_willis> Using NTFS for /home  is not doable as far as i know. You can Mount your windows partitons to  a location in your users home if you want easier access to it
[03:36] <buntu> overclucker, without losing my files, should I just create a new ext4 filesystem? And then move files from there?
[03:37] <overclucker> buntu: yes, but copy from your  old home, not the ntfs one, as you want the correct permission bits set
[03:38] <buntu> dr_willis, overclucker, thank you very much for the help
[03:39] <xKazeSenoue> I was thinking...
[03:39] <selite> xKazeSenoue: Buy a hamster, name it virginity then lose it...
[03:40] <xKazeSenoue> Are there any ways to change the installed Ubuntu's settings through the Live CD?
[03:40] <jimisrvrox> hey guys ive got an asus tab working on linux and when I try to mount it I get transport end not connected...any suggestions?
[03:40] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  mount your users home. use a text editor.  is one way to do that.. (not an easy way)
[03:40] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  depends on the settings also...
[03:40] <xKazeSenoue> selite: Buy a hamster, call it "who fucking cares to your opinion", lose it, then go look for one.
[03:41] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: It is because on Live CD, my external display works, but on the installed one, it doesn't.
[03:41] <selite> xKazeSenoue: *about your opinion, buy an english book , read it then spell correctly
[03:41] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  id check what drivers yor installed system is using.
[03:41] <xKazeSenoue> selite: First of all, English is not my native language. Second: Failed troll is fail
[03:41] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: What you mean?
[03:42] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  the live cd uses the open sourced drivers. and perhaps some fallback options to them. what video card/drivers are you using on the installed system?
[03:42] <pangolin> !language | xKazeSenoue
[03:42] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: I couldnt install any, because my Laptop's screen is broken, and only a little part is visible. I can send you a pic if you want.
[03:43] <selite> xKazeSenoue: I was just adding a bit of humour, sorry if I offended you. :)
[03:43] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:   you may want to try the 'nomodeset' option.
[03:43] <xKazeSenoue> ubottu: Say that to the failed troll over there.
[03:43] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[03:43] <pangolin> selite please keep your comments in this channel support related
[03:43] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  depending on your video chipset. you can install drivers via the console also.
[03:44] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: It is a GeForce Go 6100, integrated on a Compaq Presario F700
[03:44] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: nomodeset? What does it do?
[03:44] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  For some of my nvidia systems i have to use 'nomodeset' then get to the desktop, and then install the nvidia drivers via 'jockey-gtk' or if im feeling lucky. i use the console and just install the nvidia-current package
[03:44] <ZynuiMaiche> Hello!  anybody have time to help a n00b get Java working?
[03:45] <dr_willis> disables the dkms mode setting feature of the kernel i belive. the url above gives details how to use it.
[03:45] <dr_willis> !java | ZynuiMaiche
[03:46] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Im confused... This is my first time using Linux, actually.
[03:46] <L551> So I need to reinstall windows on a PC, but that means I will lose GRUB and access to Ubuntu, right? How would I get it back?
[03:46] <ZynuiMaiche> right, I went to that site and *thought* I followed everything right.  What I'm trying to do now is just figure out where things got installed and figure out what I did right and what I did wrong ;)
[03:46] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  check the url above. at your grub menu - append the 'nomodeset' option after the 'quiet splash nomodeset'  options on the kernel line like th eurl shows.. it might get to a useable desktop then. You then install the drivers.
[03:47] <dr_willis> L551:  live cd is one way. theres various fix grub guides out. Or install grub to a flash drive  install windows. then boot the flash to get back to ubuntu, and reinstall grub back to the hd.
[03:47] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[03:47] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: And grub is...
[03:47] <dr_willis> !grub
[03:48] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Oh, thanks.
[03:48] <dr_willis> aticonfig --set-pcs-u32=DDX,EnableTearFreeDesktop,1
[03:48] <dr_willis> oops wrong paste...
[03:48] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: But if I do that, will Ubuntu recognize my external display?
[03:48] <dr_willis> You are lucky the live cd works. :) i had to use the nomodset option on the live cd in the past on some of my nvidia systems
[03:48] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: lol
[03:48] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  ive rarely had issues with external displays and nvidia drivers.
[03:49] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: But this is not a hardware issue, since it was working on Windows, and work normally before Ubuntu boots.
[03:49] <overclucker> L551: also check out supergrubdisk, it saves the  time of booting into a livecd
[03:50] <ZynuiMaiche> ubottu: do you know the directory where Java is installed?
[03:50] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you need the nvidia drivers for the system to work at full speeds. the live cd is using the noveu (or however its spelt) open sourced driver.
[03:50] <ZynuiMaiche> lol
[03:50] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Then how do I use this noveu thing? lol
[03:50] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you dont want to use it.. you want to isntall the nvidia drivers.
[03:51] <dr_willis> so use the nomodeset option, see if you can get to a desktop. install the nvidia drivers.
[03:51] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: But I can't do that, since my screen is completely broken. I can only see 10cm...
[03:52] <dr_willis> so you have allready tried the 'nomodeset' option?
[03:52] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: I'm doing it right now.
[03:52] <dr_willis> now if the GRUB menu has video issues.. thats a differnt fix. :)
[03:53] <matthew_> I'm getting a post-update "could not write bytes: Broken pipe" error. Any thoughts?
[03:55] <dr_willis> quick and dirty guide on getting grub to use nomodeset (with pictures)  http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation
[03:55] <dr_willis> the !nomodset url is a bit more detailed
[03:56] <shayn_> herro
[03:56] <shayn_> herro
[03:56] <dr_willis> Jello?
[03:56] <buntu> mello
[03:57] <buntu> Can I mount to /media/HDD then make symbolic link inside /home directory?
[03:58] <dr_willis> buntu:  yes you can
[03:58] <dr_willis>  /home/yoususername/HDD  may be a bit more logical :)
[03:59] <dr_willis> ln -s /path/to/onething /path/to/otherthingi_always_get_backwards
[03:59] <buntu> dr_willis: do you know how to do symlink in the terminal? I'll put it in /home/buntu/Circus
[03:59] <dr_willis>  ln -s  foo bar
[03:59] <dr_willis> :)
[03:59] <buntu> dr_willis thank you
[03:59] <dr_willis> i always get the order backwards.. so i reverse them.. and then reaize i had them right the first time....
[04:00] <dr_willis> or the file manager can alt-click drag/drop i think and pulls up a menu to link/copy/move
[04:00] <buntu> dr_willis: the terminal is there for a reason, ;) haha
[04:01] <dr_willis> click-drag-holddown-alt key - you get a '?' mouse cursor.. drop - menu shows up...
[04:01] <xKazeSenoue> HHow Ok, I guess this will do
[04:01] <blackarchan> hey ppla so i want to make some software for linux...but with GUI i come from windows so im used with C# what do you recommand?
[04:02] <dr_willis> blackarchan:   depends on how much you want to learn, and what the program is doing. :)
[04:02] <dr_willis> Python is always worth learning.
[04:02] <litropy> Is there a way to tell a windo to maximize from bash?
[04:02] <litropy> window*
[04:02] <jmoreira81> Hi! I keep getting the passphare pop up every time I ssh into my ubuntu server? Any way to stop the pop up?
[04:02] <blackarchan> dr_willis: i want to learn but what...what apps to make i don`t know exactly yet...you can make gui with python?
[04:03] <dr_willis> blackarchan:  yes. you can do gui apps with python.
[04:03] <dr_willis> and if you do them right.. they will work on windows and linux. :)
[04:03] <dr_willis> or you use python to make the gui front end to your cli apps...
[04:03] <xKazeSenoue> OMG
[04:03] <dr_willis> Ponies?
[04:03] <brerrabbit> can anyone tell me what section 22.1 means:
[04:04] <brerrabbit> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-11.10-ispconfig-3-p6
[04:04] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: So I typed in gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub, and then it gave me an error...
[04:04] <ram19890> When I install the graphics card driver I get fuzzy screen , while booting. What should I do ?
[04:04] <brerrabbit> and would that be necessary to use ispConfig?
[04:04] <blackarchan> dr_willis i see so you say the best starting point for me is python?
[04:04] <dr_willis> blackarchan:  python is very very popular and handy.
[04:04] <xKazeSenoue> You know what? Fuck it. I'm using Windows 7 until I fix my screen
[04:05] <dr_willis> so you got to a useable desktop xKazeSenoue ?
[04:05] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Nope. I typed what that thread said, but it gave me an error, and it froze up.
[04:06] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  gedit is a X/gui editor.. so im not sure what you were expecting..
[04:06] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: I typed gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:06] <dr_willis> if you are on the console/text login. you have to use a text based text editor like nano
[04:06] <pangolin> xKazeSenoue: Please stop swearing.
[04:07]  * dr_willis checks the nomodset url again
[04:07] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> pangolin: Sorry... I'm just mad at this. lol
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> To permanently change the default kernel boot options, press ALT+F2 or open a terminal from system > accessories > terminal. Type in the following command:
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> Code:
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[04:07] <FloodBot1> xKazeSenoue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <xKazeSenoue> Thats what I did, and then my laptop froze up.
[04:08] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you need to use the  "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS " part - if you can not get to a useable desktop....
[04:08] <GCircle> xKazeSenoue: jumping into to the middle of a convo here, but you have to run update-grub after editing /etc/default/grub
[04:08] <dr_willis> then if you have a useable desktop. you can use gedit..
[04:08] <xKazeSenoue> GCircle: But right when I typed that in, it froze up.
[04:08] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Oh, okay. Ill try that.
[04:09] <dr_willis> gedit is a graphical text editor.. :) it requires X going befor it will work.
[04:09] <brerrabbit> what exactly does this do before I do it?
[04:09] <brerrabbit> http://pastie.org/3273750
[04:09] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation    shows how to  get nomodset going for a single boot session.
[04:09] <xzh> hello
[04:10] <ram19890> @ubottu thanks
[04:11] <dr_willis> brerrabbit:  running 'vzctl set on' for a lot of settings it seems....
[04:11] <dr_willis> whatever vzctl does.. :) never heard of it befor.
[04:12] <dr_willis> !find vzctl
[04:12] <dr_willis> !info  vzctl
[04:12] <dr_willis> You are running virtual servers?
[04:12] <brerrabbit> im on a virtual server
[04:13] <brerrabbit> was going to install ispconfig on it....but it rather blithely says @ the end to run that script on the parent machine
[04:14] <brerrabbit> without describing what it does...so im guessing I cant run ispconfig unless I can get the provider to run that script for me
[04:14] <brerrabbit> which they may or may not do
[04:14] <dr_willis> try ispconfig and see i guess...
[04:14] <GCircle> anyone know how to switch the channels in xchat from list to tabs? I've looked everywhere but the option seems to have gone away in this version.
[04:14] <dr_willis> the host might allready have those settings set.
[04:15] <brerrabbit> good point....though im skeptical. They are pushing a support package pretty heavily.
[04:15] <brerrabbit> if i pay them to do everything...i wont learn anything
[04:16] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: It says nomodeset is an unknown command...
[04:16] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  because its not a cli command.. its an option you use in teh GRUB menu/configs.
[04:16] <xKazeSenoue> But I did exactly like the thread said. I pressed E on Ubuntu, then inserted nomodeset, then it game me that error
[04:17] <dr_willis> boot system. tap shift key.. get to grub menu.. edit the kernel line.   change 'quiet splash' to be 'nomodeset quiet splash'   boot ...  should get to a useable desktop.
[04:17] <xKazeSenoue> Oh, I know what I did wrong. Sorry
[04:18] <killer20> is it possible to run GTA4 on ubuntu using wine ?
[04:18] <dr_willis> GCircle:  perferances - channel switcher - tabs..... same as where its always ben as far as i know
[04:19] <dr_willis> !appdb | killer20
[04:20] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Still does not recognize my display.
[04:20] <killer20> thanks once again
[04:21] <Trip_> greetings, I installed ubuntu on a netbook, the system doesnt reconize that theres a battery, how do i fix this?
[04:23] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you could try the text mode option , or recovery mode and install the nvidia-current package and hope for the best.
[04:23] <dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'
[04:23] <dr_willis> or try it now - if you can get to a useable console
[04:24] <dagerik> My not-so-good friend has tampered with my laptop. I see he has added a command to crontab. How else can I detect other stuff he has done? He only had like 30 seconds with the laptop.
[04:24] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: I can't use sudo commands. It asks for my password, but it does not let me type.
[04:24] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  err.. it dosent echo your password...
[04:24] <dr_willis> type it in.. hit enter..
[04:24] <dr_willis> no *'s get echoed or anything
[04:24] <bobo37773> xKazeSenoue: It is not visible for security reasons
[04:25] <GCircle> xKazeSenoue: you can also edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer and blacklist nouveau
[04:25] <dr_willis> blacklisting nouveau should in theory get done by the nvidia-current drivers/package.
[04:25] <GCircle> yeah but he might want to do it now to get a workable desktop in the meantime
[04:26] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: See? Whenever I try to use a command followed by sudo, it says that: "[sudo] pasword for rodrigo:" but it won't let me type in my password
[04:26] <LunatyK> catch you all later
[04:26] <xKazeSenoue> GCircle: But using noveau is the only way to get it to recognize my external display
[04:26] <xKazeSenoue> LunatyK: Bye :)
[04:26] <LunatyK> Bye
[04:27] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you just type in yoru password blindly and hit enter...
[04:27] <dr_willis> it does not echo any characters back when you type..
[04:30] <yourfriendisaac> Is anyone having trouble submitting bugs?
[04:30] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Oh, worked now. Thats weird. lol
[04:30] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Ok, it is downloading nvidia-current now.
[04:31] <xKazeSenoue> Let's just pray now.
[04:32] <hydrox24> I see an insane number of nvidia driver issues on this channel. I think we should setup a wiki page to direct users to that tells them to unnstall any nvidia stuff and just use the things out of the restricted-drivers seection in ubuntu. If they're still having issues after that THEN they can come here
[04:32] <hydrox24> Totally not anyones fault though
[04:32] <dr_willis> really we should have used the 'jocky-text' program to isntall the drivers  ;) but most mondern nvidia cards use nvidia-current i
[04:32] <hydrox24> maybe nvidias actually...
[04:32] <dr_willis> It is nvidias and ati's for being slacking in their support
[04:32] <yourfriendisaac> I have been having trouble submitting bugs on launchpad eventhough I am logged in and there are no other bugs on the issue
[04:32] <dr_willis> there is the
[04:32] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:32] <xKazeSenoue> I think Ubuntu should be more automatic, though
[04:33] <xKazeSenoue> Like, it asks you these things when it is installing
[04:33] <hydrox24> xKazeSenoue: Unfortunately, it is as automatic as it can be without running into copyright trouble
[04:33] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  for most allof my systems. i install get to the desktop. then it asks me to install the nvidia drivers.. 3 clicks.. a reboot.. and they are installed.
[04:33] <Darrow> Hey, I recently got a USB wireless adapter and I'm trying to disable the built-in one in my laptop. Is there any easy way to do that?
[04:33] <K`zan> Hi folks, the new firefox that came in today is a MESS, is there any way to revert back?
[04:33] <dr_willis> 11.10 is much better then 10.x was for my nvidia systems
[04:33] <xKazeSenoue> hydrox24: Copywright: Ruining our lives since... ever.
[04:33] <hydrox24> xKazeSenoue: windows can pay they're way through the copyright stuff, ubuntu can't.
[04:34] <samthewildone> Okay .... my printer is acting up on ubuntu.
[04:34] <hydrox24> xKazeSenoue: Right on.
[04:34] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Are you using a local application or web?
[04:34] <dr_willis> nvidia pays ms :)
[04:34] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: REally? How do you do that?
[04:34] <hydrox24> samthewildone: alright, start with specifying the printer, then say how it is acting up. All in one line preferably.
[04:34] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 using web to submit bug
[04:34] <Darrow> Preferably a non-disabling the wireless from the BIOS method, if possible.
[04:34] <pksadiq> xKazeSenoue: dr_willis is Bill Gates, so he knows it ;)
[04:34] <samthewildone> It's always making random noises and takes 30+ seconds to print a page. Sometimes it doesn't even print and then there's a spool of prints that haven't be completed.
[04:34] <dr_willis> 'windows certified drivers' - how do you think they get certified...
[04:34] <dr_willis> they pay MS to certify them
[04:34] <xKazeSenoue> pksadiq: lol
[04:35] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: On launchpad?
[04:35] <samthewildone> HP LaserJet 1022
[04:35] <yourfriendisaac> Yes
[04:35] <hydrox24> dr_willis: I guess I mean that micro$oft has the cash to pay thy're way outta trouble if they get into the wrong, and they can "control distribution"
[04:35] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yes
[04:35] <xKazeSenoue> It says done
[04:35] <xKazeSenoue> Ill try to reboot.
[04:35] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Did you try another browser?
[04:36] <hydrox24> samthewildone: HPs can be like that for me, even when using windows. HAve you tried with an alternate OS? Because it could be an issue with the printer.
[04:36] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 I am using firefox no I didnt try another browser
[04:36] <samthewildone> Im not sure
[04:36] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: There is also an application called "ubuntu-bug" to do it from your machine.
[04:36] <samthewildone> This is basically for the sake of my mom and dad.
[04:37] <samthewildone> He's to lazy to fix the problem but, the problem is in my room and its frickin annoying. It keeps ticking and doing random voodoo stuff.
[04:37] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 tried ubuntu-bug too was even less successfuk
[04:37] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 tried ubuntu-bug too was even less successful
[04:37] <samthewildone> Then I noticed every time my mom or I try to print from it, it flashes a little hp-plugins*** and I can't seem to click or install it.
[04:37] <hydrox24> samthewildone: we are happy to help you but you probably need to check if it is an issue with the printer, then come back to this channel for help when you know linux is causing the issues
[04:38] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Ouch. Well Firefox is my browser of choice but it can be problematic sometime. On a lighter note: Maybe you could file a bug about ubuntu-bug hahaha
[04:38]  * samthewildone sticks a firecracker in the printer. 
[04:38] <samthewildone> Well on windows when my mom prints it works fine
[04:38] <yourfriendisaac> yeah that will really help
[04:38] <samthewildone> So I know its not the printer.
[04:38] <hydrox24> samthewildone: ahh, OK that's what I was looking for.
[04:38] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yeah that will really help
[04:38] <hydrox24> samthewildone: so you know that it is ubuntu
[04:38] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: hahaha
[04:38] <samthewildone> hydrox24: and the printer laughs at me when its on windows.
[04:38] <hydrox24> alright.
[04:39]  * samthewildone shakes his head
[04:39] <hydrox24> samthewildone: that's worse. maybe you need a witchdoctor for this one!
[04:39] <bobo37773> chuck[screen]: Hey
[04:39] <samthewildone> :)
[04:39] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 ok here's the thing. My CD Rom drive is recognized in kubunut but not ubuntu. Was okay until I upgraded to 11.10
[04:40] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: The optical drive does not work at all?
[04:40] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 Also drop down menus being inhibited in ubuntu 10.10 and above and 11.04 in kubuntu
[04:41] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 thats correct it wont even open
[04:41] <hydrox24> samthewildone: A risky approuch would be to remove the printer from the printer admin panel then do a standard update, hoping new drivers are in it, then try and add the printer to ubuntu again.
[04:41] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Did you try -->   eject /dev/sr0
[04:41] <hydrox24> samthewildone: will be back in a minute or so.
[04:41] <samthewildone> rgr
[04:42] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yes it just says there is no sr0
[04:42] <ksx4system_> how do I install Moonlight plugin (open source version of Silverlight)?
[04:42] <dr_willis> !find moonlight
[04:43] <dr_willis> Hmm.. not a good search hit. :)
[04:43] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 I even checked it with df
[04:43] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: When you upgraded did you do an upgrade or a clen install?
[04:43] <bobo37773> clean*
[04:44] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 an upgrade
[04:44] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 it went smoothly
[04:44] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34805/is-there-an-equivalent-of-silverlight     Moonlight info
[04:45] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 Actually it stopped working monday evening
[04:45] <dr_willis> ksx4system_:  what are you needing moonlight for?
[04:45] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Maybe the upgrade messed you up (it has been known to; ubuntu is not really rolling release). Can you test a livecd?
[04:45] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 not sure maybe it was from a kernel update?
[04:45] <hydrox24> samthewildone: back
[04:46] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: I was just about to ask that. Did you look at your updates from Monday?
[04:46] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 as I said it is working from kubuntu
[04:46] <ksx4system_> dr_willis: for viewing a website which has animations made using this stupid technology.
[04:46] <dr_willis> ksx4system_:  tht might work then. :) netflix wont.
[04:47] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Check your updates from when the problem started
[04:47] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yes but I can look at monday updates now
[04:47] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Didn't work either
[04:47] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773where is the log
[04:47] <ksx4system_> dr_willis: no DRM'd video there, only flash-like animations.
[04:47] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 where is the log
[04:47] <ksx4system_> dr_willis: still, I have no idea how to make Opera work with Moonlight...
[04:47] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  out of ideas then. Normally takes me 2 min and a few clicks to get my 4+ nvidia systems going
[04:48] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: Guess i'll have to use Windows then... :(
[04:48] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 can I find them from update manager
[04:48] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Not sure. Look in /var/log maybe
[04:49] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  you could test out the 12.xx alpha and if it fails to work there. file a bug report. could also be some quirk/issue with your specific chipset that  may be answered on the forums or askubuntu.com
[04:49] <xKazeSenoue> Ok, bye bye, people.
[04:49] <yourfriendisaac> ok will do I'll boot back to ubuntu and I'll be back
[04:49] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773ok will do I'll boot back to ubuntu and I'll be back
[04:49] <GCircle> xKazeSenoue: i had working nvidia drivers on my debian system but then I updated my video card and X doesn't start.
[04:49] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: ok see you in a minute.
[04:50] <xKazeSenoue> dr_willis: I spent 4 hours on this thing to work. I even sacrificed my almost-finished Resident Evil 2 savegame for Ubuntu, but that's how the universe pays me. I don't want it anymore...
[04:50] <xKazeSenoue> GCircle: :(
[04:50] <GCircle> You need to update your system to an alpha or beta.
[04:50] <samthewildone> hydrox24: okay I was doing some stuff mysef
[04:50] <samthewildone> *self
[04:50] <dr_willis> xKazeSenoue:  ive spend 24+ hrs fighting with windows installs that should hae 'worked' so its all relative i guess..
[04:51] <Trip_> could someone help me get ubuntu to reconize my laptops battery
[04:52] <GCircle> Trip_ are there any acpi options in the bios that aren't switched on?
[04:53] <bobo37773> Trip_: What happens if you type "acpi" in a terminal?
[04:53] <annu> i need some help here
[04:53] <Trip_> I havent done that ill give that a try
[04:53] <bobo37773> annu: Just ask. If someone here knows they will try to help you okay
[04:53] <annu> i want to switch to ubuntu 11.10 n i have xubuntu
[04:54] <annu> i have ubuntu 11.10 cd
[04:54] <Trip_> bobo37773:  its telling me what to type in so that i can in stall it "sudo(woodo) this that and the other thing"
[04:54] <dr_willis> annu:  whav version of xubuntu you have insalled?
[04:54] <annu> 4.8.0
[04:55] <dr_willis> err.. i dont think thats a proper version #.
[04:55] <bobo37773> Trip_: ok So follow the instructions. Just so you know acpi is for laptop stuff like battery
[04:55] <dr_willis> xubuntu follows the same #.# as ubuntu releases.. 11.04  10.10 and so on.
[04:55] <Trip_> bobo37773: thanks bud
[04:55] <bobo37773> Trip_: You are welcome
[04:55] <GCircle> Trip_ when you type lspci, does it show any SMBus controllers at all?
[04:56] <bobo37773> annu: Are you using the same version on xubuntu (11.10)?
[04:56] <annu> so where do i find the version name Dr
[04:56] <dr_willis> annu what did you install? check lsb_release -a    output
[04:57] <GCircle> what you need to do is apt-get install hal hal-info and run lshal | grep battery
[04:57] <annu> ok its 11.04
[04:57] <GCircle> tell us if it turns up anything
[04:57] <annu> by natty
[04:58] <dr_willis> annu:  if you just want ubuntu 11.10 - backup imporntant stuff. and reinstall  is one way.
[04:58] <bobo37773> annu: The best way ^^
[04:58] <annu> ok
[04:58] <annu> but
[04:59] <annu> is it not possible to just upgrade all packages an get it done
[04:59] <dr_willis> you said you wanted gnome... you want gnome/ubuntu ONLY? or both.
[04:59] <annu> through synaptic package manager
[04:59] <dr_willis> you can do release upgrades
[05:00] <annu> only gnome
[05:00] <selite> I uninstalled GCC and now I can't install it again dpkg returns error code (1) , can anyone tell me what to do?
[05:00] <dr_willis> then it will be easier to just do a reinstall. then ti try to remove the xfce stuff. but you can try it if you wanted to. Install the ubuntu-desktop package. remove all xfce/xubuntu stuff..  then upgrade to the next release
[05:01] <dr_willis> a clean install would be faster
[05:01] <annu> ok
[05:01] <annu> i need 1 suggestion
[05:01] <bobo37773> annu: It is possible. But I do not think it is called gnome. I think the package groups you want are named something like "ubuntu-desktop"
[05:01] <selite> How do I reinstall GCC?
[05:01] <dr_willis> installing ubuntu-desktop then upgradeing will basically dowload a lot of stuff twice.
[05:01] <annu> ok
[05:02] <dr_willis> selite:  install the build-essential package for the core gcc envuroment
[05:02] <selite> dr_willis: What's the command please?
[05:02] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[05:02] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install foo   (apt 101) :)
[05:02] <annu> thanks dr and bobo37773
[05:03] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 went to the var/log directory no sign of updates
[05:03] <selite> dr_willis: I get again the same error dpk returned error code (1).
[05:03] <bobo37773> annu: Your welcome. Good luck
[05:03] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Is there an apt sub directory?
[05:03] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 one sec
[05:03] <selite> dr_willis: I get erros were encountered while processing: gcc, g++, build-essential
[05:03] <dr_willis> selite:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' pastebin any errors/outputs
[05:03] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Maybe /var/log/apt/blahblahblah.log
[05:04] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Be sure to grep out the date if / when you find it.
[05:05] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 history.leg -- checking
[05:05] <GCircle> !topic
[05:06] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 history.log -- checking
[05:07] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Are you completely up to date right now? Sometimes when something gets broken an update comes to fix it.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer in unity? (square-like mouse pointer) it leaves only after a reboot
[05:09] <hydrox24> lotuspsychje: is this similar to your issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/760405
[05:09] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yeah there are only two available and neither of them has to do with the kernel or gnome
[05:09] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: ok. Did you find anything interesting in the logs?
[05:10] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: You could always try updating or reinstalling your kernel and seeing if that helps
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> hydrox24: lemme take a look
[05:11] <hydrox24> yourfriendisaac: are you able to boot with an older kernel?
[05:11] <hydrox24> yourfriendisaac: from grub/grub2 that is?
[05:11] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 not really just some qt updates and other stuff.... I could try that
[05:12] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 okay Ill try rebooting from an ealier kernel
[05:12] <selite> dr_willis: Here is what errors I get after trying what you told me. http://pastebin.com/DQFePe4N
[05:12] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Yeah, no way its qt that wouldn't even make sense. Hmm booting from an earlier kernel? Excellent idea
[05:12] <wookienz> i have 11.10, but ih ave a mix of unity and the old look and feel menu bars. I still have "applications and places" menu that sits under, how do i get rid of it?
[05:12] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 be right back
[05:13] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: ok
[05:14] <pangolin> selite: try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:14] <jonathon> I DLed the latest Jav JRE, 7u2, From the Oracle site and extracted it, And I need to know how to make it use the java program from that folder instead of the openjdk jre one when I use java from the command line
[05:14] <selite> pangolin: Same dpkg returned error (1).
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> hydrox24: sorry can't get to the link, might be my slow mobile internet, any fix they suggest on that page?
[05:15] <pangolin> selite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[05:15] <selite> pangolin: I chose yes, what am I supposed to do now.
[05:15] <pangolin> wait for it to finish
[05:16] <jonathon> hydrox24, You're still using irssi, right?
[05:16] <selite> pangolin: It asks for additional home directory locations:...?
[05:16] <pangolin> selite: what is asking for that?
[05:17] <tejaswi> How do i change my dynamic internal ip to static using the network manager?
[05:17] <Trip_> bobo37773: the computer still isnt reconizing it.
[05:17] <bobo37773> Trip_: If you type acpi in a terminal what do you get?
[05:18] <Trip_> bobo37773: type it again?
[05:18] <Trip_> bobo37773: the first time i ran the sudo code, whats sudo stand for?
[05:18] <bobo37773> Trip_: Yeah just open a terminal and type-->    acpi
[05:18] <dr_willis> selite:  ive never seen an error like --> "update-alternatives: error: cannot stat /usr/bin/g++: Too many levels of symbolic links" befor.  seems the update-alterantives system is some how confused
[05:18] <Will123456> hey guys. i want to easily switch between running the nvidia proprietary drivers and nouveau. is there a switch i can put in at boot time to toggle between the two, or is it always going to involve something awkward?
[05:19] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 no that didn't help went back to oldest kernel
[05:19] <dr_willis> Will123456:  I think its more complex then that. since the nvidia drivers blacklist the nouveau drivers. and the 2 can conflict otherwise
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | Trip_
[05:19] <Trip_> bobo37773: battery  0: unknown, 0%
[05:20] <jonathon> I DLed the latest Jav JRE, 7u2, From the Oracle site and extracted it, And I need to know how to make it use the java program from that folder instead of the openjdk jre one when I use java from the command line?
[05:20] <Trip_> lotuspsychje:  thanks
[05:21] <Will123456> dr_willis: thanks, i was hoping it wouldn't be something like that. :(
[05:21] <Trip_> bobo37773: battery  0: unknown, 0%
[05:21] <Will123456> dr_willis: i suppose i'll have to set up an extra partition or something. thanks anyway :)
[05:21] <bobo37773> Trip_: Just a second
[05:23] <Will123456> jonathon: this may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-7
[05:23] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 no that didn't help went back to oldest kernel -- I wonder if it's an IDE issue on some update somwhere?
[05:23] <Will123456> jonathon: however if you just want to use it temporarily, you can call any jvm you like from the command line
[05:24] <jonathon> Thanks, Lemme see
[05:25] <selite> How do I fix dpkg error (1)?
[05:26] <dr_willis> selite:  the error is in recursivbe symlinks not dpkg.
[05:26] <dr_willis> selite:  from the few google hits i checked out
[05:26] <yourfriendisaac> selite what were you doing when you go th error?
[05:26] <dr_willis> selite:  ive never seen an error like --> "update-alternatives: error: cannot stat /usr/bin/g++: Too many levels of symbolic links" befor.  seems the update-alterantives system is some how confused
[05:27] <bobo37773> Trip_: Did you reboot since? Also which acpi packages did you install? Just acpi or acpid?
[05:27] <selite> yourfriendisaac: I uninstall GCC and then when I tried to reinstall it I got the error.
[05:27] <selite> yourfriendisaac: I also get the error no matter what I try to install.
[05:27] <dr_willis> help pages seem to suggest that g++ is a link back to its selff..  perhaps running update-alternatives by hand. or removeing /usr/bin/g++ if it exists
[05:27] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Not sure. Maybe try a third party ppa and updating to a newer kernel.
[05:27] <selite> dr_willis: Well it's a first then, I must be special.
[05:27] <dr_willis> selite:  seems to bean issue with some people and java. and some lightdm files.
[05:27] <jonathon> Will123456  Ok thanks, That got it installed :D
[05:28] <yourfriendisaac> selite did you run sudo dpkg --config -a?
[05:28] <yourfriendisaac> bobo3777
[05:28] <akpk> How to change username in ubuntu 10.10 ??
[05:29] <Will123456> jonathon: really? did it work? excellent :)
[05:29] <Trip_> bobo37773: just acpi
[05:29] <mauricesid> hey does anyone know why the compiz effects do not work under the Mobility Radeon HD 5650?
[05:29] <dr_willis> akpk:  may be easier to just add a new user with the new name.
[05:29] <selite> yourfriendisaac: You mean sudo dpkh-reconfigure -a?
[05:29] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 yeah ill try ubuntu tweak and try to remove the ppas
[05:29] <Will123456> jonathon: out of curiosity, is there any reason why you're getting the very latest jre from oracle?
[05:29] <hydrox24> mauricesid: have you installed the proprietary drivers for you radeon?
[05:29] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: You mean add?
[05:29] <dr_willis> !changeuser
[05:29] <mauricesid> no, I am using the open source drivers (like recommend on an ubuntu forum)
  : Can I delete the old one after that ??
[05:30] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 checking
[05:30] <Trip_> bobo37773: and no i didnt reboot, i should have, just been caught up in some other things. should i also try installing acpid
[05:30] <hydrox24> mauricesid: well, I too would recommend the open-source drivers, but the possible cause for the lack of 3D graphics is the lack of the drivers ability to do it.
[05:30] <bobo37773> Trip_: Try installing acpid and rebooting. But first open a terminal and type this command ang tell me the output-->     lsmod | grep battery
[05:31] <selite> dr_willis: I removed /usr/bin/g++ again the issue persists.
[05:31] <dr_willis> akpk:  why bother. :) you should make sure the new user has full sudo rights.. or look in to the usermod command to change the name. Theres some forum thereads on the topic
[05:31] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821685  akpk
[05:31] <Trip_> just as that with the large seperating line in it? *has no idea what that symbol is called*
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: did you install compiz-config ?
[05:31] <mauricesid> yes
[05:31] <mauricesid> I have the switchable graphics with Intel/AMD
[05:31] <bobo37773> Trip_: You mean the | ?
[05:31] <Trip_> yeah the |
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: what happens after enabling some effects?
[05:32] <dr_willis> selite:  perhaps look in /etc/alternatives/
[05:32] <akpk>  <dr_willis> : Thank you.  :-)
 absolutely nothing
[05:32] <bobo37773> Trip_: It is right above your enter key. Hit shift+\
[05:32] <mauricesid> i checked most like wobbly windows, rain and the cube
[05:32] <yourfriendisaac> selite if you were in the middle of downloading an application and now apt wont allow any downloads try dpkg --config -a the output will make suggestions if that doesnt work
[05:32] <mauricesid> none work
[05:32] <bobo37773> Trip_: Or copy and paste. The | symbol is called a "pipe" for future reference
[05:33] <Trip_> bobo37773:  oh yeah thats not the problem :) i just dont know the name for it, just thought about it, maybe ill google it later
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: are you on unity2D, 3D or gnome?
[05:33] <dr_willis> mauricesid:  unity and some compiz plugins do not play well together.
[05:33] <wiel> i installed a later version of python.how can i set that version as the main python?
[05:33] <wiel> or remove the older python
[05:33] <mauricesid> how would I check? I think I am using the latest gnome
[05:33] <dr_willis> wiel:  how did you install it?
[05:33] <Trip_> bobo37773: kay thanks, i typed it out twice and nothing happened it just started a new command line
[05:34] <wiel> dr_willis, from the source code
[05:34] <Trip_> bobo37773: ill try the acpid
[05:34] <hydrox24> mauricesid: are you just on a default ubuntu install? If so what version of ubuntu?
[05:34] <bobo37773> Trip_: ok. Try this --> sudo modprobe battery
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: you can logout and see what x u logged on
[05:34] <dr_willis> wiel:  you may need to do some tweaking with the update-alternatives stuff. or just remove the old (may not be a good idea) and set up some soft links.
[05:34] <mauricesid> hydrox24: I installed the latest 64-bit version of ubuntu 11.10
[05:34] <bobo37773> Trip_: Then try again --> lsmod | grep battery
[05:35] <selite> yourfriendisaac: I get errors were encounteered while processing : build-essential. This is what I get.
[05:35] <dr_willis> wiel:  there might be ppa's with updated versions. that would be a better way to use the newest
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: some older computers say first boot, it will boot unity2d as default because of performance
[05:35] <mauricesid> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by "x"?
[05:35] <pksadiq> wiel: also if you have installed python3 and have to use that as the default option, it is a very bad idea
[05:35] <Trip_> bobo37773: it says command not found.
[05:35] <selite> dr_willis: There is no g++ in /etc/alternatives.
[05:35] <wiel> dr_willis, i followed those instructions to install python 3.2
[05:35] <Trip_> bobo37773: should i try the acpid?
[05:36] <mauricesid> my bios will use the AMD GPU if the power cord is plugged in at startup
[05:36] <wiel> dr_willis, those http://www.giantflyingsaucer.com/blog/?p=2858
[05:36] <bobo37773> Trip_: Command not found? Did you type this exactly:       sudo modprobe battery
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> mauricesid: try a logout and take a look on wixh desktop u logged on: gnome or unity3d or 2d
[05:37] <mauricesid> ok I will give it a shot
[05:37] <wiel> python 3.2 is a dependency for an api that Im using. i dont really care what happens to the system
[05:37] <wiel> the os
[05:38] <Trip_> bobo37773:  the first time it asked me for my password, i entered it, then it opened a new command line. i then entered    lsmod | grep battery    then it just opened a new command line. i triend entering     sudo modeprobe battery     again when you asked me if typed it right, nothingh appened and it just opened a new command line
[05:39] <GCircle> did you try apt-get install hal
[05:39] <GCircle> and lshal | grep battery?
[05:39] <bobo37773> Trip_: Ok did you try "lsmod | grep battery" after sudo modprobe battery?
[05:40] <erfolg> hal? ubuntu still uses hal?
[05:40] <goddard> how can i filter my mailing list emails?
[05:40] <bobo37773> Trip_: Ok install acpid and reboot.
[05:40] <Trip_> bobo37773: i did, it just keeps opening new command lines and not actually doing anything
[05:40] <dr_willis> i thought hal had been removed with extreme prejudice
[05:40] <Trip_> bobo37773: alright, ill be back in a few, thanks for the help ehl
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !info hal
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> not lol
[05:41] <dr_willis> !hal
[05:41] <bobo37773> dr_willis: No hal is still used by some apps. I use it still for I don't remember what.
[05:41] <dr_willis> I wouldent one someone to do a Halsectomy to my hal. :)
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:lol
[05:41] <bobo37773> dr_willis: Hahaha
[05:42] <zhownx> I have problem with ubuntu one client, it said it required internet connection... any idea?
[05:42] <zhownx> I'm running oneiric
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> goddard: try software centre for some filter maybe
[05:42] <dr_willis> zhownx:  theres the #ubuntuone channel that has more experts on that feature of ubuntu
[05:43] <zhownx> thank dr_willis
[05:43] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, hola, how are you?
[05:43] <dr_willis> Im here. :) and awake .. for now..
[05:44] <LukeNukem> nice, is it possible to customize the DOCK
[05:44] <goddard> lotuspsychje: anything for gmail itself?
[05:44] <Lasivian> is there any way to make a "shortcut" type link from ubuntu to a folder on a windows share?
[05:44] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  what 'dock' ?
[05:44] <erfolg> ln -s /link/to/windows /link/to/ubuntu
[05:44] <erfolg> oh you said a share
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> goddard: gmail is an online email, you first need to import your gmail to an ubuntu email client before filtering then
[05:45] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, the one on the left in Ubuntu 11.10
[05:45] <dr_willis> Lasivian:  normally windows shares mounted on the fly are in .gvfs somewhere. Or you can try the file manager. click/drag/ hold down alt.. (cursor becomes a ?) drop. select link..
[05:45] <Lasivian> yeah, an smb:// link
[05:45] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  thats the 'Panel' and the webupd8 blog site has a extensive guide on tweaking unity.
[05:45] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  the ccsm tool unity plugin , has some tweakable settings.
[05:46] <dr_willis> i always set the panel icons to be 32 in size. and never hide.  first thing on a new setup.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: same here
[05:47] <dr_willis> install the classic menu indicator applet and a few other bits and im good to go.. :)
[05:47] <Lasivian> dr_willis: alwaysd tries to copy or move the file manager window when I do that. Thanks tho
[05:47] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 I used system profiler and it found the cd rom drive but it wont do anything..installing some ppas we will see how it goes
[05:48] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: It found it?
[05:48] <dr_willis> Lasivian:  mey because its a smb://type path. If you try doing it from the .gvfs/whatever/ dir - it MIGHT let you.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> hi linuxuz3r
[05:48] <Lasivian> hrrm
[05:48] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Restart dbus daemon and check it
[05:48] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 it found the drive yes but the drive wont open and even from the commandline
[05:49] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 not sure how to do that
[05:50] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:50] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: pretty sure
[05:50] <dr_willis> linking a share from .gvfs also has issues.. :()
[05:50] <knightrage> hi all. so i am still getting noise from my audio system (speakers) even though the master volume on my card is set to 0%... thoughts?
[05:50] <dr_willis> if you really want a link to a share. you may need to mount it from fstab perhaps to a set location
[05:50] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 ok let's see
[05:51] <bobo37773> knightrage: Try changing it to 100% instead of 0%
[05:51] <LukeNukem> ok dr_willis i also have this issue where when i use applications i scroll over to the left and dock does not come up instead i have to go to the desktop to use it..
[05:51] <LukeNukem> it happens sometimes
[05:51] <knightrage> bobo37773: ...
[05:51] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  i always set the panel to never hide..
[05:52] <bobo37773> knightrage: Oh sorry. I did not read good enough. Did you try to mute in alsamixer?
[05:52] <Lasivian> dr_willis: never knew about that way of linking, it worked, thanks :)
[05:53] <MindlessDream> Can someone please assist me?
[05:53] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !ask MindlessDream
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !ask | MindlessDream
[05:54] <knightrage> bobo37773: yes. it is quite when i mute it, but i would assume it would be quite (ie, no sound) when i set it to 0% through "amixer -c 0 sset Master,0 0%"
[05:54] <MindlessDream> I have a 512mb ram laptop (old thing), and have been running ubuntu 11.10 on it. It's very slow and was wondering if I should change to Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[05:54] <dr_willis> lubuntu is the ligtest of all the buntu variants. :)
[05:55] <trip_> bobo37773: hey back, i checked the battery its still showing up as "not present" plust i didnt write down the codes you sent me earlyer
[05:55] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  so id say try lubuntu and see if it does what you need.
[05:55] <erfolg> MindlessDream, do fluxbox
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> MindlessDream: or you could try unity2d or gnome
[05:55] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, ok so my next issue, i downloaded NETBeans IDE, but i cant find it in Dash Home o.o
[05:55] <LukeNukem> how will i go about starting it
[05:55] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  downloaded how?
[05:55] <MindlessDream> hmm. Can I install Lubuntu from scratch without a CD?
[05:55] <MindlessDream> like just install and remove ubuntu?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !lubuntu | MindlessDream
[05:56] <eoss> so I have an issue with putting my startup script in rc.local, I need to have it run earlier than when it runs, im loading a firewall rules to iptables to it and for a good1-2 minutes my machine is open to attach before the script runs
[05:56] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  you could install the lubuntu-desktop pacakge. but removing the ubuntu-desktop is a bit tricker
[05:56] <goddard> what is the best format to use for video to reach all audiences?
[05:56] <dr_willis> you will end up with both sets of apps.
[05:56] <eoss> any suggestions will help
[05:56] <erfolg> goddard, flash
[05:56] <dr_willis> goddard:  good old mp4 perhaps. depends on your video also. its always a trade off btween size and quality
[05:56] <MindlessDream> So, will I be able to determine the running speed if I don't remove Ubuntu gnome completely?
[05:57] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, Software center
[05:57] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  if you boot to the lubuntu desktop. you are not running 'gnome' really
[05:57] <MindlessDream> I want to change to Lubuntu now, do I just install it from their site?
[05:57] <bobo37773> trip_: try this and reboot again --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dbus
[05:57] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  check the pacakge details. see what binaries it insalled to what /bin/* dirs perhaps.  launch it via the terminal.
[05:58] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  its in the repos. 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'
[05:58] <LukeNukem> its name is Netbeans platform for building rich desktop applications in java
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <goddard> erfolg: i thought mac didn't use Flash
[05:58] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  unless you want to totally reinstall.
[05:58] <dr_willis> goddard:  ipads and phones dont.. os-x can.
[05:58] <goddard> dr_willis: mp4 plays on mac and smart phones and stuff?
[05:58] <dr_willis> goddard:  yes.
[05:58] <goddard> ah ok
[05:58] <dr_willis> My android phone can play most anything i toss at it.
[05:58] <MindlessDream> well, is that the better option? (Don't worry about data)
[05:58] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, how do i check where it is installed
[05:58] <erfolg> goddard, are you trying to put it into a website or something?
[05:59] <goddard> erfolg: just portability
[05:59] <trip_> bobo37773: its telling me to start it, should i reboot first then startdbus?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> some workarounds exist for flash on ipad, but thats gonna b offtopic :p
[05:59] <goddard> erfolg: rather have 1 video then 1 in 20 formats
[05:59] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  use the pacakge manager tool. check the package details.  ive neer used netbeans so no idwa what the binary would be called. may be 'netbeans' for all i know. :)
[05:59] <bobo37773> trip_: Just restart it. sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[06:00] <GCircle> Eclipse is very similar to netbeans
[06:00] <erfolg> goddard, i mean if you're going for something web-based it's easy to put html code in to switch what comes up depending on browser.
[06:00] <erfolg> goddard, since ios doesn't support flash
[06:00] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, what do you use
[06:00] <dr_willis> goddard:  for uploading to my phone. i always convert.. pointless to have a 1gb movie that would play the same on the phone if i converted it to a lower res. :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  i dont code.
[06:01] <trip_> bobo37773: terminal said command not found
[06:01] <LukeNukem> ok
[06:01] <erfolg> LukeNukem, open up a terminal and type which netbeans
[06:01] <dr_willis> I perfer baked beans over net beans..
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> erfolg: there are apps that do support flash for ios
[06:02] <bobo37773> trip_: just reboot
[06:02] <LukeNukem> erfolg, i should type 'which netbeans' into termina
[06:02] <LukeNukem> ?
[06:02] <erfolg> lotuspsychje, yeah but he wants universal support by default
[06:02] <erfolg> LukeNukem, yep
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !netbeans
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !info netbeans
[06:03] <LukeNukem> erfolg, nothing happens
[06:03] <MindlessDream> Can anyone please 1v1 chat with me? Too confusing here :/
[06:03] <dr_willis> MindlessDream:  'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' is confuseing ?
[06:03] <wifioregon> I had to go back to 10.04 because of so many problems with the newer kernels.  What is safe to update and what is not? I dont want a new kernel...
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:03] <pksadiq> !find netbeans
[06:03] <anon666> http://pastebin.com/F4fykTeJ
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> pksadiq: cool trigger tnx
[06:04] <LukeNukem> leave netbeans, whats a good text editor so i can program in php, html, css?
[06:04] <MindlessDream> FINE
[06:04] <MindlessDream> Then what?
[06:04] <erfolg> LukeNukem, idk what the name of the binary is. it should be listed in your unity applications though
[06:04] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[06:04] <dr_willis> some times the menus dont get refreshed untill a delay. or a log out/back in
[06:05] <anon666> http://pastebin.com/F4fykTeJ
[06:05] <LukeNukem> libnb-platform-java12
[06:05] <dr_willis> binary name seems to be 'netbeans'
[06:05] <LukeNukem> sorry
[06:05] <LukeNukem> libnm-platform12-java
[06:05] <LukeNukem> libnb*
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> MindlessDream: after install, logout and login to lubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <erfolg> ls /usr/bin | grep netbeans
[06:06] <erfolg> or ls /usr/bin | grep nb
[06:06] <erfolg> maybe
[06:06] <MindlessDream> okay thanks :)
[06:06] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 reseting the ibus did work -- It reset everything including my graphics and when I rebooted I found myself not using compiz anymore but that is an easy fix. Thanks lol :)
[06:06] <MindlessDream> I'll see if it's faster.
[06:07] <chelz> danes: tar cf foo.tar.gz foo/
[06:07] <MindlessDream> oh by the way, does this install take around 10mins or so?
[06:07] <dr_willis> depends on your download speeds and system specs
[06:07] <MindlessDream> alright cool
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer in unity (square-like corrupt icon), it only leaves after another reboot?
[06:08] <chelz> danes: er
[06:08] <LukeNukem> erfolg, unity applications? how do i check, i checked in dash home :\
[06:08] <chelz> danes: tar czf foo.tar.gz foo/
[06:08] <trip_> bobo37773: hey, still getting "not present"
[06:08] <erfolg> LukeNukem, that's what i meant
[06:08] <LukeNukem> yeah it ain there
[06:08] <LukeNukem> same issue here but i cant understand http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764318
[06:08] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  you could restart the X server. but thats almost the same as a reboot since it closes out all your apps..
[06:08] <chelz> danes: right, -p also
[06:08] <bobo37773> trip_: Out of ideas. Not sure what else to tell you
[06:08] <LukeNukem> one user says its in the home folder, what if its installed with sudo? where does it go to?
[06:09] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Out of ideas. Not sure what else to tell you
[06:09] <LukeNukem> and how does software center install it?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: would that perm fix the problem?
[06:09] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  you always install stuff from the package manager via sudo/as root.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: cause next boot after that it corrupts the mouse icon again
[06:09] <trip_> bobo37773: thanks for all the help though :)
[06:09] <bobo37773> yourfriendisaac: Time for a clean install I guess.
[06:09] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  restarting X server would not be a perm fix.
[06:09] <yourfriendisaac> bobo37773 reseting the ibus did work it's okay
[06:09] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  sounds like a driver issue.
[06:09] <yourfriendisaac> lol
[06:10] <bobo37773> trip_: Your welcome . Sorry I could not be of more help
[06:10] <bobo37773> take care everyone later
[06:10] <trip_> bobo37773: sa'll good, im thinking i got a dead battery.
[06:10] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  there might be some  xorg.conf options that might help it. but id have to say check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact video card/drivers
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: all drivers have been installed correctly, i had this problem on a few diff computers
[06:10] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  just because they installed correctly dosent mean they dont have bugs. :)
[06:11] <bobo37773> trip_: Nope. I am sure that is not what it is. Because it would still show up even if it was messed up
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:true
[06:11] <LukeNukem> well i am now downloading it manually now and will install :\
[06:11] <dr_willis> Unity works fine here with my fglrx drivers.. but gnome-shell is basiclly unuseable due to the bugs.
[06:11] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  you did try a simple 'netbeans' from the terminal?
[06:11] <LukeNukem> also i will uninstall it on software manager but when i click install again it just installs without downloading the 48 mb again..why is this dr_willis , is the setup store the setup file?
[06:12] <LukeNukem> yeah i did
[06:12] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:   /var/cache/apt/ has all the downloads cached.
[06:12] <LukeNukem> so i dont want the cache :|
[06:12] <prite> LukeNukem: sudo apt-get install --reinstall netbeans
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i readed some ppl made a new xorg file to fix this mouse icon problem
[06:13] <dr_willis> the software center always uses the cached or redownloads it from the repos.
[06:13] <LukeNukem> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764318
[06:13] <LukeNukem> oops sorry
[06:13] <LukeNukem> E: Unable to locate package netbeans
[06:14] <dr_willis> all i know on netbeans is here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans   :)
[06:14] <prite> LukeNukem: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libnb-platform12-java
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !ogv
[06:15] <prite> the reason why you get "E: Unable to locate package netbeans" is probably because your package list is too old
[06:15] <mindlessdream> "Configuring lxdm"...default display manager: gdm, lightdm and lxdm
[06:15] <LukeNukem> ok its installed...
[06:15] <mindlessdream> what do those mean?
[06:15] <LukeNukem> now?
[06:15] <dr_willis> mindlessdream:  those are alternative login managers
[06:15] <mindlessdream> use the default "lightdm" that is selected?
[06:15] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  try running 'netbeans'
[06:15] <mindlessdream> no idea what they mean...
[06:15] <LukeNukem> comand not found
[06:16] <dr_willis> mindlessdream:  use whateve one you want they are just the login screen
[06:16] <mindlessdream> oh okay
[06:16] <prite> LukeNukem: your Package Lists are too old then
[06:16] <prite> do this:
[06:16] <prite> sudo apt-get update
[06:16] <prite> After it finishes:
[06:16] <prite> sudo apt-get install --reinstall netbeans
[06:16] <LukeNukem> man the update is like a lot of size
[06:16] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  try a 'sudo updatedb' then a 'locate netbeans'  see if theres some   /bin/netbeans   to see where it isnalled the binaries to perhaps.
[06:16] <ogex> hello, how to activate wifi rtl8192seva on ubuntu with 3.0.1 kernel ?
[06:16] <LukeNukem> i dont hae speed
[06:17] <dr_willis> weekly updates are a good idea. :)
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> prite: what you using for the tornetwork?
[06:17] <LukeNukem> my internet is 256kbps
[06:17] <erfolg> your internet is 256kbs down?
[06:17] <pksadiq> dr_willis: weekly ??? I have not updated since 2010 december
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:17] <prite> lotuspsychje: I'm using plain simple tor and Vidalia from some repository by torproject themselves
[06:18] <zhownx> ogex: ifup wlan0 ?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> prite: tnx mate
[06:18] <ogex> zhownx, wlan0 exist but cannot scan
[06:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75549/how-do-i-install-netbeans
[06:18] <ogex> iwconfig look wlan0 is there, but cannot scan
[06:18] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, ok its under usr/share/netbeans
[06:19] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  there may be a /usr/share/netbeans/bin  dir
[06:19] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, nope
[06:20] <dr_willis> the site  i gave mentions 6.9 being removed from the repos..  and how to install the 7.x version from their site.
[06:20] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, here http://gyazo.com/a792ce6bfb9fc2f05b4ae393d08a20c8
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !info vidalia
[06:21] <zhownx> ogex: iwlist wlan0 scan?
[06:21] <dr_willis> if you truely want the latest netbeans id say follow the askubuntu.com directions and install it to your users home/whatteer/netbeans dir
[06:21] <LukeNukem> link?
[06:22] <prite> LukeNukem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75549/how-do-i-install-netbeans
[06:22] <LukeNukem> also how the fire in hell do i customize dock? i did that unity thingie nothing happend
[06:22] <dr_willis> short history buffer? :)
[06:22] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  its not called the dock :)
[06:22] <ogex> zhownx, : wlan0     No can result
[06:22] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  and you can use the ccsm tool to tweak it to some degree
[06:22] <K-Rich> grrrrrr twice now...... does anyone know the location for the sticky notes applet data file in gnome 2 ?
[06:22] <ogex> zhownx, : wlan0     No scan result
[06:23] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, ok o what it called, and how do i launc this ccsm tool
[06:23] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[06:23] <dr_willis> !ccsm | LukeNukem
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-config-manager | LukeNukem
[06:23] <zhownx> ogex, so there isnt any available wifi :D
[06:23] <Stereocaulon> After the latest updates, cdemu seems broken with some sily message that it's dependent on bash >= 3.0
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> right :p
[06:24] <LukeNukem> um terminal is installing it o.o
[06:24] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
[06:24] <ogex> zhownx, no another laptop can scan, i think kernel 3.0.1 on ubuntu still not support for realtek rtl8192seva
[06:24] <prite> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | lotuspsychje
[06:25] <LukeNukem> ok the launcher...
[06:25] <ogex> i'm looking for to fix it
[06:25] <dr_willis> and lets not forget the ever popular    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html  LukeNukem
[06:25] <LukeNukem> also i downloaded a theme, how would i install it?
[06:25] <dr_willis> a them for what exactly?
[06:25] <LukeNukem> a theme for ubuntu
[06:25] <dr_willis> Ubuntu dosent have themes... gnome/gdk/kde/other apps have themes
[06:26] <zhownx> ogex: your wifi hw not detected then, right?
[06:26] <K-Rich> nm found it, ~/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet
[06:26] <LukeNukem> um one second
[06:26] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site has info on settng up various themes for gnome shell and unity.
[06:26] <zhownx> ogex: I meant the hardware?
[06:26] <Gnea> So, I've decided to finally make the plunge to 10.10
[06:27] <Gnea> !amd64
[06:27] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/divergence-iv-a-new-hope.html
[06:27] <ogex> zhownx, yeah,
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: interesting link
[06:27] <LukeNukem> yeah for GNOMNE
[06:27] <LukeNukem> GNOME*
[06:27] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  gnome-shell you mean?
[06:27] <K-Rich> !nvidia
[06:27] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, whatever GUI ubuntu is running :D, i think its Gnome shell
[06:28] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  that 'theme' is a rather complex script that does a lot of things you most likely will have a hard time reverseing.. i suggest  sticking to the normal unity for now
[06:28] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, is it possible to change the splash screen, mine is messed up
[06:28] <LukeNukem> ok
[06:29] <dr_willis> i always disable the splash.
[06:30] <mindlessdream> "Processing triggers for python-support"...looks done?
[06:30] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  if you insist on using that  new-hope thing.. see http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/try-something-different-divergence-iv.html  but read the docs
[06:31] <LukeNukem> it looked sexy so i thought id give it a shot, i'll see how complex it is and decide =)
[06:31] <dr_willis> its not worth the effort from what ive read.
[06:31] <LukeNukem> but as always PERFORMANCE OVER LOOKS
[06:31] <dr_willis> thers dozens of other themes in the repos and webupd8 site pps for unity/gnome-shell/gtk3
[06:31] <danes> what would be the root path for a lamp server? If I install the lamp package, where can I find the root folder where I need to place my page?
[06:32] <LukeNukem> danes, /var/www is where the page fiels should go
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | danes
[06:32] <LukeNukem> files*
[06:32] <pksadiq> danes:  If you mean apache, it might be at /var/www
[06:33] <LukeNukem> it is at /var/www
[06:33] <LukeNukem> :D
[06:34] <Badman> !squid
[06:34] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, are there themes that look as good as Divergence
[06:34] <prite> danes: If you install the lampp package from apachefriends.org it can be installed anywhere you like.
[06:34] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  its all realtive.
[06:34] <prite> danes: generally installed at /opt/lampp
[06:34] <Badman> !squid
[06:34] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, in the link i gave you divergence looks good but in the link you gave me it looks crap. so i wont install it ;)
[06:34] <prite> danes: place your site at /opt/lampp/htdocs/
[06:35] <LukeNukem> its at /var/www for me
[06:36] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, ok ive installed compiz manager, now what
[06:36] <LukeNukem> ok launched it
[06:37] <dr_willis> unity plugin has settings for the variouns unity tweaks.. webupd8 blog site has guides on other tweaks
[06:37] <dr_willis> and lets not forget the ever popular    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html  LukeNukem
[06:37] <dr_willis> dont go crazy in ccsm.. it can break unity :)
[06:38] <dr_willis> how to reset it all back to defaults (Bookmark this url) ---> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[06:38] <K-Rich> ~/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet
[06:38] <danes> how can I use the find command where lowercase or upper case can be mixed as well as wildcards such as *?
[06:38] <LukeNukem> is my desktop unity or GNOME ?
[06:38] <LukeNukem> its confusing me..
[06:39] <dr_willis> Unity is a shell on top of gnome
[06:39] <dr_willis> gnome-0shell is a shell on top of gnome...
[06:39] <dr_willis> !unity
[06:39] <LukeNukem> i have ccsm, how do i customize launcher
[06:39] <dr_willis> in the unity plugin in ccsm
[06:40] <pksadiq> danes: find ./ -iname  \*.txt  ?
[06:40] <dr_willis> theres also some 3rd party tools like myunity and gnome-tweak-tool
[06:40] <LukeNukem> there is no option like unity inside ccsm
[06:40] <LukeNukem> do i need to install?
[06:40] <LukeNukem> im install gnome tweak tool
[06:41] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  what release of ubuntu are you using?
[06:41] <LukeNukem> 11.10
[06:41] <dr_willis> if you are using unity. then id say look again...
[06:41] <LukeNukem> idk if im using unity..this is a new install.
[06:41] <dr_willis> Unity is the default for 11.10
[06:41] <LukeNukem> ooh found it
[06:42] <danes> pksadiq, thanks
[06:42] <dr_willis> ccsm has  a search/filter feature :)
[06:42] <goddard> why is most ubuntu certified laptops dell?
[06:43] <dr_willis> because dell put forth the effort to get certified.. whatever that 'really' means these days :)
[06:43] <Gnea> goddard: because Dell decided to use Ubuntu when it started selling laptops with linux on them again
[06:43] <Egbert9e9> ran out of disk space and now i have files saying "No such file or directory" or "Input/output error". I use ecryptfs for my home directory.
[06:43] <dr_willis> Dell is sellin them again? I thought they had stopped.
[06:44] <Gnea> dr_willis: they did
[06:44] <Egbert9e9> found this but there's no real solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/372014
[06:44] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, changes aren't happening
[06:45] <dr_willis> apply changes. log out/back in perhaps.
[06:45] <dr_willis> all i change is the  auto hide. and the size of the icons
[06:49] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:50] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, woot, btw what is urgent animation, how can i test it
[06:50] <al-tabq> i need a bit more help with sed/xargs, i have latex files in subfolders. i want to change certain lines to comments to be able to typeset (because of missing input files from an older version). i want to use sed for this. tried : " find . -type f -iname \*.tex|xargs sed -i 's/\includegraphics/%includegraphics/' "
[06:50] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  its what the icon does  in the launcher when  a program triggers an alert i think
[06:51] <dr_willis> My Lovely Desktop... http://imagebin.org/196158
[06:51] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, ok im gonna go to desktop and it 10 seconds you tag me and send a message in irc...soo i can test it ok
[06:51] <LukeNukem> go
[06:51] <bartovar> !find
[06:52] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, you did not do it -_-
[06:52] <dr_willis> do what?
[06:52] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:53] <LukeNukem> you write my name and send me a message in 10 seconds like i did now.. dr_willis
[06:53]  * dr_willis is in and out of chat all day long.
[06:53] <al-tabq> the find part is fine, but the sed/xargs part doesn't work, i'm doing smt wrong here (find . -type f -iname \*.tex|xargs sed -i 's/\includegraphics/%includegraphics/' *)
[06:53] <dr_willis> irc client may or may not support the feature :) Mine has msgs as part of the notify osd at the top right.
[06:54] <pksadiq> al-tabq: may be ..../\%include.... sorry not known to sed much
[06:55] <al-tabq> pksadiq the %  is latex for comments..that's why i want it in front of the line
[06:55] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, you did it before, like just write my name in the begging like 'LukeNukem: test message'
[06:55] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  moo!
[06:55] <chia> ciaooooooooooo
[06:55] <dr_willis> happy now? :)
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !it | chia
[06:56] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  moo some more!
[06:56] <LukeNukem> ok once more
[06:57] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  some people spend way to much time playing with eyecandy.... :)
[06:57] <LukeNukem> damn it, xchat did not notify me..
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> i like xchat transparancy
[06:57] <prite> LukeNukem: have you told XChat to notify you?
[06:57] <dr_willis> xchat has plugins and other scripts for that sort of feature
[06:57] <LukeNukem> Pricey, it used to happen before
[06:58] <LukeNukem> like just a while ago it happend
[06:58] <Silpelit> Is xchat the way to go then? I'm having difficulty finding a client that people are praising
[06:59] <Silpelit> Not that they're praising xchat much...
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> i love it
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> irssi is nice too
[06:59] <razorfish> xchat is bomb
[06:59] <kaen> xchat ftw
[06:59] <kaen> used it for like 5 years now
[07:00] <razorfish> chat through telnet
[07:00] <prite> lotuspsychje: what transparency u mean?
[07:00] <maslen> Is it possible to mount a partition without being root?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> prite: transparant xchat so you can see your desktop wallpaper
[07:00] <kaen> there's a patch for honest to god transparency, too
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> kaen: what does it do?
[07:01] <razorfish> i always compile xchat with this patch
[07:01] <razorfish> http://the-beach.co/txt/xchat-alpha.patch
[07:01] <kaen> gives xchat real transparency. Instead of the fake 'only see your wallpaper' type
[07:01] <prite> lotuspsychje: the one Compiz provides? As in any window's transparency can be adjusted by Alt+Mouse Scroll ??
[07:01] <kaen> razorfish, you're a boss
[07:01] <razorfish> so it shows true transparency instead of fake transparency
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> prite: no just transparancy from xchat settings
[07:02] <bobofosho123> hello everyone, I have a cr-48 notebook that I've installed ubuntu on...I'm having some issues with the touchpad regarding multitouch gesture...could someone help me?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> kaen: sounds nice got a screen on that>?
[07:02] <razorfish> http://i.the-beach.co/di-1X62.png
[07:02] <razorfish> xchat with real transparency^
[07:02] <kaen> I can't compete with you, razorfish ._.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> loading
[07:03] <prite> lotuspsychje: Can you guide me to it. (new user, can't find. hehe)
[07:03] <razorfish> kaen: whys that lol
[07:03] <al-tabq> anyone who is handy with sed here?
[07:03] <al-tabq> please?
[07:03] <bobofosho123> could someone help me please?
[07:03] <bobofosho123> with the aforementioned question above
[07:03] <Ben64> al-tabq: you might want to explain what you're trying to do
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> razorfish: cewl looks nice
[07:03] <kaen> you have all the links I tried to find, but faster.
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> prite: did you install xchat?
[07:04] <prite> lotuspsychje: I am using it right now
[07:04] <jmoreira81> does anyone know how to enable phpmyadmin to accept a remote connection on ubuntu?
[07:04] <al-tabq> Ben64 make this work (find . -type f -iname \*.tex|xargs sed -i 's/\includegraphics/%includegraphics/' *) to change all \includegraphics arguemnts in all latex-subdocuments to comments (%\includegraphics)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> prite:just goto settings: background transparancy
[07:05] <Ben64> al-tabq: thats not very clear, what do you mean
[07:05] <razorfish> kaen: only because I keep it on my own servers because stuff always gets lost on my desktops :P
[07:05] <kaen> :)
[07:05] <prite> lotuspsychje: must be a script/plugin. All I have is Setiings: Preferences, and Settings: Advanced. No Background transparency in there
[07:05] <bobofosho123> hey everyone, I just installed ubuntu on my cr-48 chromebook and I'm having some issues with the touchpad. I'm able to use two-finger vertical and horizontal scrolling but I'm unable to use a lot of other multitouch gestures, could someone help me please?
[07:06] <kaen> preferences -> interface -> text box
[07:06] <bobofosho123> for example I'm unable to use the click and drag gesture
[07:06] <al-tabq> Ben64 i have many subfolders, all including latex documents. in those documents there are lines with \includegraphics , which i want to change to %\includegraphics so that latex will ommit them (the files don't exist). hence the find . -type f -iname \*.tex|xargs sed -i 's/\includegraphics/%includegraphics/' * to replace it
[07:06] <bobofosho123> anyone?
[07:07]  * bobofosho123 is beginning to miss the simplicity of windows
[07:07] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: find . -type f -iname '*.tex' -exec sed -i 's/\\includegraphics/%&/' {} +    # after backing up.
[07:07] <prite> prince_jammys: u missed the global flag in sed
[07:08] <prite> al-tabq: find . -type f -iname '*.tex' -exec sed -i 's/\\includegraphics/%&/g' {} +    # after backing up.
[07:08] <prince_jammys> he didn't say global. if anything, i assume ^\\includegraphics.
[07:08] <bobofosho123> I'm sorry to troll here, but would someone mind helping me?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> prite: like kaen says text box, highlight tranparant background
[07:08] <Stereocaulon> !patience | bobofosho123
[07:09] <kaen> I helped _o/
[07:09] <bobofosho123> already did
[07:09] <al-tabq> prite, prince_jammys error with "sed: 1: "./argentina/argentina.tex": invalid command code .
[07:09] <al-tabq> "
[07:09] <Ben64> prince_jammys: what is the & for in sed
[07:10] <dr_willis> the # of people in here using a cr-48 is most likely very low. :) there may  be forum threads or askubuntu.com threads on it
[07:10] <prince_jammys> Ben64: "whatever matched on the left side of s/ //"
[07:10] <malac0da> I have a strange problem
[07:10] <Ben64> prince_jammys: then how come in your example it replaces the \
[07:11] <bobofosho123> well it's a driver issue I believe, I've looked at alot of stuff online...but everything applies to older versions of ubuntu
[07:11] <prince_jammys> Ben64: i don't understand.
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !ask | malac0da
[07:11] <Ben64> prince_jammys: echo "\includegraphics" | sed 's/\\includegraphics/%includegraphics/'
[07:11] <malac0da> after attempting to updating 12.04 I lost my whole /var folder
[07:11] <bobofosho123> like I said most of the stuff works, it's just that for some reason ubuntu doesn't seem to like multitouch touchpads
[07:11] <Ben64> prince_jammys: err... nvm
[07:11] <Ben64> prince_jammys: i messed up
[07:11] <prince_jammys> Ben64: :)
[07:12] <prite> bobofosho123: have you tried http://cr-48.wikispaces.com/Fix+Touchpad+in+Ubuntu
[07:12] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, you *do* have a backup, don't you?
[07:13] <malac0da> probably not because I didnt specifically make one. It isnt an install I normally use. I am on 10.04 right now and a windows 7 I use normally
[07:13] <jmoreira81> this channel is useless.. no one helps anyone
[07:13] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: what OS are you running this on?
[07:13] <Stereocaulon> !patience | jmoreira81
[07:13] <malac0da> Would I be able to copy the folder from this install?
[07:14] <al-tabq> prince_jammys have to be on osx at work
[07:14] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: aha
[07:14] <prite> al-tabq: see http://alexle.net/archives/tag/invalid-command-code
[07:14] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: sed's -i option is nonstandard. i'd use perl instead.
[07:14] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, no, you would not, although missing files in /var are less critical then a missing /etc, you will still nedd /var for logging and spooling things as well as for e-mail of course.
[07:15] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: something *like* (i don't recall) perl -i -pe 's/.....
[07:15] <bullgard4> What is understood by "The Ubuntu-mono Archives"? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:15] <malac0da> Well it starts to boot ubuntu flashes once then the screen just flickers
[07:15] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: ask the folks at #perl and replace the sed command with their advice. Avoid sed -i if you need portability.
[07:16] <malac0da> Nvm it isnt completely empty
[07:16] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, since this is probably an Alpha you are testing, why don't you file a bug?
[07:16] <al-tabq> prince_jammys it worked with the double quote
[07:16] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, ok, that's promising, what is left?
[07:17] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: osx's sed -i likely expects the name of a backup file following the -i option, it's not the same as GNU sed.
[07:17] <Stereocaulon> !posix | al-tabq
[07:17] <al-tabq> prince_jammys well it's always good to backup when using sed i guess
[07:18] <malac0da> cache, crash, lib, local, log, mail, opt, spool, tmp
[07:18] <malac0da> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1862995
[07:18] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: yeah, but there are probabl other issues now. the find command i gave passes multiple files at once. See ''man sed'' in your OSX box to check.
[07:18] <malac0da> i tried following that cuz i was getting similar errors when trying to just start gdm and such
[07:18] <Stereocaulon> alt-tabq, I'm surprised that ubottu doesn't know anything about posix, but it's a standard which is critical for cross-compatibility between *nix systems
[07:19] <Aerosonic> Hey guys, I have a dualscreen laptop, and when I enable the 'use both displays' mode, my mouse's horizontal sensitivity is much greater than vertical. What's the problem with that?
[07:19] <Aerosonic> Latest and greatest Ubuntu 11.10
[07:19] <curiousx> i agree
[07:19] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: (the perl command isn't POSIX, but it should be portable if perl is installed, which it should be on an OSX system)
[07:19] <curiousx> i am so haooy with my ubuntu 11.10 =)
[07:19] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: If you want, you can teach ubottu new things like this, in a private message session: !factoid is <reply> blah blah blah
[07:19] <curiousx> happy*
[07:19] <prince_jammys> the POSIX way might be with ed
[07:20] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: It will then be forwarded to #ubuntu-ops for discussion
[07:20] <Aerosonic> curfont: I prefer Arch to Ubuntu, but hardware incompatibility is a bitch.
[07:20] <al-tabq> prince_jammys it is, will look into it for future reference
[07:20] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, allright, so that's how the ubottu DB got so big. Nice feature, thanks for telling me!
[07:20] <al-tabq> al-tabq would the same not be possible with zsh as well?
[07:20] <Aerosonic> Posting again: I have a dualscreen laptop, and when I enable the dualscreen mode, my mouse's horizontal sensitivity becomes much greater than vertical. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10.
[07:21] <al-tabq> prince_jammys would the same not be possible with zsh as well?
[07:21] <razorfish> os[daniel@rarity, Linux 3.3.0-rc1-dickriderjoah x86_64]
[07:21] <razorfish> #1 kernel
[07:21] <al-tabq> stupid nick completion..
[07:21] <razorfish> hold up
[07:21] <razorfish> whats wrong with zsh
[07:21] <prince_jammys> al-tabq: zsh is really not portable, though i don't know what you mean.
[07:21] <razorfish> I use it on all my systems
[07:22] <prince_jammys> nothing is wrong with zsh ... except when he wants something that's gonna work across OS's
[07:22] <al-tabq> at least across unix
[07:22] <ThomasBoxley> date
[07:22] <prince_jammys> can't really count on zsh being there.
[07:22] <ThomasBoxley> oops
[07:22] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, a quick comparision reveals backups, lock, packages, run, (games) to be missing...
[07:23] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, games is of course far from critical here ;-)
[07:23] <malac0da> the run is what I was worried about because in that site i posted it says about moving and copying that folder which
[07:25] <malac0da> Well..I guess I will be doing a reinstall of it
[07:25] <Stereocaulon> hmm, it seems that both run and lock are in fact symlinks to subdirs of the /root FS, so that leaves us with backups (does probably not exist on a new system before the first backup and packages.
[07:26] <Stereocaulon> malac0da, yes, but before you do, please file a bug, this kind of info is of great importance to the stability of the future release.
[07:26] <Aerosonic> Posting again: I have a dualscreen laptop, and when I enable the dualscreen mode, my mouse's horizontal sensitivity becomes much greater than vertical. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10. Help, please.
[07:27] <malac0da> I wouldn't even know where to begin...I wasnt really watching while it was updating or anything either
[07:27] <malac0da> where would I go to do it
[07:27] <dr_willis> Aerosonic:  you could state what your video chipset is.  and what  drivers you are using.  ive never seen that issue
[07:27] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: ATI Radeon HD 3200, stock drivers.
[07:28] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: I doubt it's something with the drivers.
[07:28] <malac0da> I always have problems with my ati card and linux
[07:28] <Stereocaulon> For people running into problems with ibus, check if all other input method systems have been deinstalled. Ibus does not seem to like competition ;-)
[07:28] <bobofosho123> anyone know where I can find a downloadable version of synaptics gesture suite for linux?
[07:28] <Aerosonic> Seems to be touchpad drivers.
[07:29] <dr_willis> Aerosonic:  given what ive seen with ati drivers.. its very likely is some quirk of th drivers.. but i only have one ati system and i dont use dual monitors with it.
[07:29] <Aerosonic> A secondary mouse on the laptop doesn't show the problems
[07:29] <Aerosonic> Given that the malfunctioning mouse is synaptics... Something is strange.
[07:30] <dr_willis> id say check the forums and askubuntu.com   You mean the touchpad acts differntly? or you are using 2 mice?
[07:30] <bullgard4> What is understood by "The Ubuntu-mono Archives"? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:30] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: Both mice are built in, the touchpad is acting up, the gesture mouse is working normally
[07:31] <Stereocaulon> y
[07:31] <dr_willis> not sure how you build in a 'mouse'  or what a 'gesture mouse' is.
[07:31] <celltech> VirtualBox, Extensions enabled, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 11.10, iPhone NOT being recognized
[07:32] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: Mice that is up in front of the screen, you manipulate it by moving your fingers in front of it
[07:32] <malac0da> Just to make a point about ATI and linux...I closed catalyst and it logged me out...
[07:32] <Pepp-elito> Hi I have made a bash script executable, but i can not add it directly to "docky", but if i first add the script to panel, and when drag the panel-created application to docky it works. So my question is, how can i set the same properties done when adding to panel directly to the script file?
[07:32] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: A laser sensor
[07:32] <Aerosonic> Sort-of
[07:32] <dr_willis> lasers are for killing! :)
[07:32] <Stereocaulon> Sorry for that single 'y' I was performing a VBox install parallel to chatting ;-)
[07:32] <Aerosonic> eh
[07:32] <Aerosonic> Ubuntu sucks
[07:33] <juho> where is the first-person shooter games for Ubuntu
[07:33] <Aerosonic> This never happens on Arch
[07:33] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  you may wan tot make an actual .desktop file launcher for your script.
[07:33] <Aerosonic> But due to horrid hardware issues I have to use Ubuntu
[07:33] <Chuck_Norris> Aerosonic: you sucks
[07:33] <dr_willis> way to butter people up :)
[07:33] <Aerosonic> Chuck_Norris: Given the proper device, I will.
[07:34]  * dr_willis goes back to making cookies.
[07:34] <Stereocaulon> Aerosonic,  Chuck_Norris, Let's  keep things civil, right?
[07:34] <Chuck_Norris> Stereocaulon: ok
[07:35] <Stereocaulon> Aerosonic, did you already try another distro, apart from Arch or Ubuntu? The problem might lie upstream rather then being tied to a specific distro.
[07:36] <dr_willis> never mind.. :O
[07:36] <bazhang> Stereocaulon, he's gone
[07:36]  * dr_willis still wonders how you click a gesture-mouse
[07:36] <Stereocaulon> bazhang, Well he did not have much patience...
[07:36] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, probably, but i don't know how. The point is that i don' want the same a "application" visible in several places on the desktop. I only wan't a single script-file that i can drag to docky ( or script-file and an desktop file, but in this case i want the desktop file in a patth i decide). Is the possible?
[07:37] <celltech> Wow... How do I access the vboxusers group to add myself too
[07:37] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  keep your scripts in some dir in your path. like ~/bin or /opt/bin  and copy/edit the existing .desktop launcher files to make your own.
[07:38] <dr_willis> some tools to help   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[07:39] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, i see
[07:39] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, thanks
[07:39] <Evilkiss1> help me
[07:40] <dr_willis> similer info    http://shuffleos.com/3274/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[07:40] <dr_willis> Evilkiss1:  state the issue
[07:40] <Stereocaulon> celltech, you can use this: sudo useradd -G vboxusers <your own username>
[07:40] <Evilkiss1> I don't understand this issue...always I login to pidgin, I have this number 1 after my nick
[07:40] <Flannel> Stereocaulon, celltech: NO, DONT DO THAT
[07:40] <Evilkiss1> but i has registered for nick Evilkiss
[07:40] <Stereocaulon> Flannel, why not?
[07:41] <dr_willis> Evilkiss1:  perhaps ask in #freenode
[07:41] <Flannel> Stereocaulon, celltech: Because you forgot the -a, which means he'll blow away all his secondary groups.
[07:41] <Flannel> celltech, Stereocaulon: user `sudo adduser username vboxusers` instead, it's much safer.
[07:41] <Stereocaulon> Flannel, you are so right, thanks for spotting this
[07:41] <Flannel> er, use, not user.
[07:41] <Stereocaulon> Flannel++
[07:42] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, do you know how i restart the windowmanager, like metacity and/or compiz in ubuntu 10.10?((commandline)
[07:42] <bullgard4> What is understood by "The Ubuntu-mono Archives"? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:42] <prite> Pepp-elito: <windowmanager> --replace
[07:42] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  its not clear what you are asking.
[07:43] <Stereocaulon> grabbing a bite, will be back a little later...
[07:43] <prince_jammys> looks like an archive of bug reports related to mono.
[07:43] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  the url sounds like a archive of the ubuntu mono mailing list
[07:43] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Can you tell me what "The Ubuntu-mono Archives" are? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/
[07:44] <prince_jammys> "Mailing list for packaging Mono and related applications for Ubuntu.
[07:44] <dr_willis> mailing list - alterantive to forum/newsgroups
[07:44] <dr_willis> so its an archive of everyones discussion from the mailing-lists
[07:45] <bullgard4> dr_willis: What association is "the ubuntu mono" so that there is a "ubuntu mono mailing list"?
[07:45] <Flannel> bullgard4: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:45] <dr_willis> its a grup of developers  that are focused on packaing mono in ubuntu sounds like..
[07:45] <Pepp-elito> prite, how can i check which windowmanager is active?
[07:46] <bullgard4> Flannel: Why can I not ask this question here? I am asking about Ubuntu don't I?
[07:46] <dr_willis> theres most likely a ubuntu kernel mailing list and other lists focusing on specific ubuntu areas
[07:46] <prite> try `ps ax | grep <windowmanager>` to see if the <windowmanager> is running. Generally: if Desktop Effects are flashy, it's probably compiz. If Desktop Effects suck, it's probably metacity
[07:47] <Flannel> bullgard4: Helping you understand english isn't Ubuntu technical support; it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.  You've asked these things in there forever anyway, I don't know why you switched over to asking in #ubuntu.
[07:48] <prite> Pepp-elito: or, this command will do: wmctrl -m | grep "Name" | cut -c7-
[07:49] <Silpelit> Noob question, but I just downloaded a driver from https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/xf86-input-synaptics/
[07:49] <pigeta> hi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> can one prevent malicious services from an usb stick to spread on ubuntu
[07:49] <Silpelit> It's downloaded, I'm looking at the file, how do I get synaptic package manager to open it?
[07:50] <dr_willis> Silpelit:  most likely - you dont.  Unless someone made a .deb of it.
[07:50] <dr_willis> even then . drivers are normally compiled for a specific kernel
[07:50] <pigeta> some one can show me how extract a multiarchive zip (file.z1,file.z2 ecc.) with 7zip from terminal please?
[07:50] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  malicious services? never seen one of those.. never sene a way for a usb stick to 'infect' a linux machine either.
[07:51] <dr_willis> pigeta:  i tend to cheat and use the 'unp' command.
[07:51] <bobofosho123> anyone here know how to get a gobi 2000 chip working on a cr-48 chromebook?
[07:51] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: dont warry abour your usb using ubuntu
[07:51] <dr_willis> pigeta:  normally one just extracts the frst file and it finds the rest.
[07:51] <dr_willis> !info unp
[07:51] <Pepp-elito> prite, thanks now i have created a nice simple script which disables compositing when starting xbmc and enables it again on exit. No video tearing in xbmc any more and the only cost is a small ficker when exiting xbmc =)
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: are you sure botnet worms can't spread on ubuntu?
[07:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  going to be a bit hard for a user to infect the whole system..
[07:52] <dr_willis> and theres no 'auto run on insertion' of usb devices that ive seen.
[07:52] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: dont panic dude this is not windows
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:52] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: Linux != windows
[07:52] <dr_willis> 'double-click-here-for-porn.sh' dosent really work well in linux ;)
[07:53] <Silpelit> I'd bash that.
[07:53] <Silpelit> >.>
[07:53] <Chuck_Norris> i agree with dr_willis xD
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: there are hardass unix rootkits out there too
[07:53] <prite> Pepp-elito: just an addition: if you are using ati drivers, video tearing can be handled in the Catalyst Control Center. But still, your script is cooler.
[07:53] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  if you enable the 'vsync' (or whate was it called) feature - i  rarely see tearing.
[07:54] <dr_willis> ati's control panel calls it 'anti-tear-technology' or some other silly name. :)
[07:54] <dr_willis> Silpelit:  if the driver is in the repos.. use the package manager tool to search for and install it.
[07:55] <Pepp-elito> prite,dr_willis. this is actually the only thing that has worked for me running nvidia ion chipset. I have tried every thing i have found on the web, including vsync, undrirect thing in full screen for compiz etc...
[07:55] <dr_willis> 'wait for vertical refresh'
[07:55] <prince_jammys> !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | Silpelit
[07:55] <dr_willis> could be the cpu/gpu just is lacking in Powar!
[07:55] <Johndoe205> Hello!
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> Chuck_Norris: so you dont think usb stick could infect lets say firefox on ubuntu?
[07:56] <prite> !ask | Johndoe205
[07:56] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, wait for vertical refrash is this a setting in compiz or xbmc?
[07:56] <prince_jammys> Silpelit: you likely have this installed already.
[07:56] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  its a driver setting ive seen it in the nvidia settings tool and  the amd tool.
[07:56] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: there is no way by defoult dude unless you desactive apparmor and others security stuffs
[07:57] <dr_willis> They just all like to call it differnt things
[07:57] <pigeta> dr_willis : how use  unp for join all files (file.z1,file.z2 ecc) and extract inta a single file?
[07:57] <Johndoe205> I have a question regarding bt5 tools. Does it exist for 10.10?
[07:57] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, in nvidia gui-settings or using commandline nvidia-xconfig?
[07:57] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  if the user is running unknown source scripts and binaries..  then from a usb or the net.. wont matter.
[07:57] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  should be in both.
[07:57] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if merely plugging in a usb stick can infect your system this way, we're in major trouble.
[07:58] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  worse case hopefully would be the users stuff gets messed with - system stays secure
[07:58] <stjohnmedrano> good day, where can i download chromium precise?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: so its not possible to remotely get root on a system on ubuntu?
[07:58] <dr_willis> thats sort of a keystone in the linux security model seperation of users and root user.
[07:59] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres alwyas servies or other things that may have exploits.. but ive not heard of any in ages
[07:59] <dr_willis> the use of sudo on ubuntu makes it even harder.
[07:59] <theadmin> stjohnmedrano: apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:00] <stjohnmedrano> theadmin: thanx, i'll try it now.
[08:00] <Chuck_Norris> yep, lotuspsychje just dont, run aplication like .run (where nobody can see the code, unless you downloaded it from oficial page like ATIs .run) and run .deb from the oficial repos, or PPAs, and there is no way to crash linux trust me
[08:01] <dr_willis> pigeta:  id just try 'unp foo.z1'  assuming you have the 7zip binaries installed.
[08:01] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, i can't find it: nvidia-xconfig -A | grep refresh and i don't see it in the UI settings.. :(
[08:01] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  not on an nvidia box so i ant check.
[08:02] <dr_willis> i recall seeing it in the nvidia-settings tool
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Chuck_Norris: lets say vnc got an exploit on ubuntu, it would be impossible to take over the system?
[08:02] <Chuck_Norris> i mean its no imposible but there is very very hard to hack linux, even if a noob is using it
[08:02] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, are you running ati zacate?
[08:02] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  got some low end ati in this low end cheap desktop i found on sale.
[08:02] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: not *impossible*, but with an up-to-date system, unlikely.
[08:03] <Chuck_Norris> i am sure that there is an update for that exploit, show us the CVS
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: today you are updated, tomorrow there's a new exploit right
[08:03] <dr_willis> not heardof many exploits lately...
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:03] <dr_willis> other then that screen-lock bypass  thing.
[08:04] <stjohnmedrano> my next question is, what command to use in removing ppa's from terminal?
[08:04] <dr_willis> Theres linux security sites that follow this stuff better.
[08:04] <dr_willis> !ppapurge
[08:04] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, okay i was just wondering. zotac has some amd/ati boxes that seems good as htpc. but everyone say that you should not use ati in linux/xbmc. so I'm on nvidia =)
[08:04] <dr_willis> Pepp-elito:  i would run away from ati. :)
[08:04] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: and then there''s a patch, so you update, then they find another exploit, and you install the patch ... one day you die :)
[08:05] <dr_willis> then you get patched..
[08:05] <dr_willis> and come back as a zombie process!
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: lol i will die one day
[08:05] <prince_jammys> then your kids update ...
[08:05] <Pepp-elito> dr_willis, okay thanks. My script solution works now anyway, so thats nice =) Thanks alot everyone!
[08:05] <prince_jammys> then there's a new exploit ... you get the idea. Don't worr about it.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> ok so ubuntu is pretty safe
[08:05] <dr_willis> security is all about layers of protection.
[08:05] <prince_jammys> es
[08:06] <prince_jammys> i picked up the "crappy 'y' key" virus.
[08:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu has quite  few layers. theres some more locked down ubuntu and linux variants out there if you want to be truely paranoid
[08:06] <prince_jammys> Yes.
[08:06]  * dr_willis makes all of prince_jammys 's e on the screen fall down like snow flakes...
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> but sure the whole world has ubuntu servers with rootkits
[08:07] <phpN00b> what version of gnome does the current version of ubuntu come with?
[08:07] <dr_willis> the world has people running ubuntu servers that fail to understand security basics...
[08:07] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: do you run a server?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: not but i know many get exploited..
[08:08] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: most desktop users fall prey to trojans. Don't run untrusted code and you'll be ok.
[08:08] <dr_willis> latest linux security news :)   http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/156663/187/
[08:09] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: you worry about it a whole lot more if you run a publicly-facing server.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: these days every1 is prey to malicious websites even when not clicking untrusted banners
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: tnx for the link
[08:10] <prince_jammys> that'd be a browser exploit, and those get patched quite quickly.
[08:10] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: only if you visit malicious websites (with browsers with security flaws)
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> lol dr_willis: what a list of holes :p
[08:12] <phpN00b> people, take tis to #ubuntu-offtopic and help me please
[08:12] <phpN00b> what version of gnome does the current version of ubuntu come with?
[08:12] <auronandace> phpN00b: 3.2 i think
[08:12] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  acutally most are rather trivial or allready patched. or never exploited to begin with
[08:12] <phpN00b> auronandace, can you verify it?
[08:12] <auronandace> phpN00b: i don't run gnome but i can try
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell
[08:13] <forever1> phpN00b:ubuntu 11.10 GNOME3.2.1
[08:13] <auronandace> !find gnome-shell
[08:13] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: thanks, beat me to it
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ill sleep well as i know untrusted services caznt get axs to my system
[08:14] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: The number of actually usable exploits is tiny. See also (gasp) openbsd, for a more paranoid outlook...
[08:14] <Lourens> Hi, Could someone please advise how to get a ~/.xsession to execute on 11.10.
[08:14] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  biggest danger to your system is you (the end user) doing somting silly
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> loshki: i run snort on ubuntu, any other packages could help me out?
[08:15] <auronandace> dr_willis: very true
[08:15] <forever1> lourens: press alt-F2
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: on windows, browsing the web can be pretty silly
[08:15] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: running behind a NAT router is cheap insurance, IMO...
[08:15] <Lourens> forever1: I mean as part of startup.
[08:16] <forever1> lourens:the same on startup
[08:16] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  on windows everything can be silly
[08:16] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're worried about js from the browser, see the noscript firefox extension.
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> true lol
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: i use it too :p tnx
[08:17] <Lourens> forever1: I mean as part of the system startup procedure.
[08:17] <dr_willis> Lourens:  theres some guides out on doing it.   such as .. making a   /usr/share/xsessions/xsession.desktop    mentioned here http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Quickly_Setting_up_Awesome_with_Gnome
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> can ubuntu set removeable media root password to prevent?
[08:17] <Lourens> Thanks dr_willis I'm following that one up.
[08:18] <intok> Anyone ever install WMP10 via PlayOnLinux? Why has it takn almost 2 hours now to uncheck the filetype associations? It's doing something, theres some text flying by in the WMP10 installer window thats too fast to read, and every time it's none so after a few mins I would be able to hit the next item. just that I've been at 3rd from last for s long...
[08:18] <prince_jammys> to prevent what?
[08:18] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: root doesn't have a password
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: prevent usb stick to see content
[08:18] <dr_willis> Lourens:  some neat info on the man pages also  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/Xsession.5.html
[08:18] <genewitch> auronandace: IT IS A FEATURE NOT A BUG
[08:19] <sectionme> Anyone experienced issues with KVM, whereby the guest system can cause the host to just poweroff? Nothing in logs as to why.
[08:19] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're concerned this, you likely need to look into encryption.
[08:19] <auronandace> genewitch: i'm aware of why, doesn't mean i agree with it
[08:19] <prince_jammys> *with this
[08:19] <dr_willis> intok:  you did check the wine app database to see if wmp10 even works in wine?
[08:19] <Lourens> dr_willis: Thanks.
[08:20] <genewitch> auronandace: it's a blessing when you have 100 servers
[08:20] <genewitch> auronandace: and goddamned developers always want to screw with configs
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: ok tnx, but if the usb stick was not mine and not encrypted, can i set ubuntu to ask password to users to open the stick?
[08:21] <genewitch> once a week, mark it, once a week we send an email "developers should not mess with system configs"
[08:21] <intok> dr_willis no, figured it was since it was offered via PlayOnLinux
[08:21] <dr_willis> intok:  never used play on linux, they got their own forums perhaps
[08:21] <sbarcteam> hi, which is the chan for the next release ?
[08:21] <dr_willis> I cant imagine why you would want wmp in linux either. :)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !precise
[08:21] <sbarcteam> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[08:22] <genewitch> dr_willis: it's playonlinx
[08:22] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: i don't know. if they have access to it and it's not encrypted, i don't see that it would help much. What are you worried about?
[08:22] <genewitch> prince_jammys: it sounds fishy
[08:22] <prince_jammys> fish?
[08:22] <genewitch> just format the USB stick in some esoteric filesystem
[08:22] <genewitch> like... gluster
[08:22] <genewitch> then you don't need a password
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys:just wondering, like ubuntu asks password for changing network security, maybe it can for removeable media too?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gluster
[08:23] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: oh that, to mount removable regardless of what it is? you can do that
[08:23] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: see, PERFECT
[08:23] <genewitch> !info gfs
[08:23] <prince_jammys> if users have physical access to the box, there isn't much you can do if they're committed to snooping around.
[08:24] <Loshki> sectionme: sudden poweroffs are often a symptom of a failing power supply, maybe triggered by the extra load. Or it's a horrendous bug, but then, you'd expect other people to see it too. Try #kvm?
[08:24] <genewitch> prince_jammys: virtualized systems too
[08:24]  * dr_willis glues lotuspsychje 's usb ports shut
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> i was wondering why users can snoop around in other users home dir..doesnt make sense
[08:25]  * prince_jammys hides the usb stick inside a pickle.
[08:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  thats setable to be off if you wante to
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: how?
[08:25] <genewitch> sectionme: yeah no guest should interfere with host operations. you have a power supply or heat issue
[08:25] <dr_willis> if you want even more layers of paranoia thers encrypted homes
[08:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  proper use of chown/chmod is one way.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[08:25] <genewitch> sectionme: get an IR thermometer and check your north and south bridges and CPU heatsink temps
[08:25] <intok> dr_willis yeah, finally got a reply in their IRC room, surprised since I asked there quite awhile back now
[08:26] <genewitch> sectionme: $20 says you need thermalpaste on something or a new PSU
[08:26] <Loshki> intok: small chat rooms work on entirely different timescales than this one...
[08:26] <genewitch> Loshki: a lot of /lastlog -hi and resubmitting your questions
[08:26]  * lotuspsychje needs powerglue for the whole system :p
[08:27] <intok> Loshki yeah, here it's neat the femtosecond level at times...
[08:27] <goddard> where is gedit installed?
[08:27] <sectionme> genewitch: on a few month old laptop with sandybridge, temps are less then 50oC, its strange as its only happened with one host account, others are working fine (I have a freebsd 8.1 and ubuntu+1 guest working fine) but if I try and boot the freepbx iso when it goes to boot from the iso menu it powers off the guest.
[08:27] <dr_willis> goddard:  why does it matter?  try 'which gedit'
[08:28] <sectionme> doh host not guest that it powers off.
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: isnt there a command to see services that doesnt belong to ubuntu's system?
[08:28] <goddard> dr_willis: grease monkey has this stupid thing where it asks me to locate the bin of my favorite text editor
[08:28] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres the 'service' command.. but how do you know aht ones 'dosent belong'?
[08:28] <dr_willis> goddard:  just entering 'gedit' dont like it eh?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> goddard: likely /usr/bin
[08:29] <dr_willis> so much for defaut paths. :)
[08:29] <prince_jammys> $120 on /usr/bin
[08:29] <dr_willis> 'which gedit' shows you where its at
[08:29] <goddard> oh ok
[08:29] <prince_jammys> bet me first, then run that.
[08:29] <goddard> /usr/bin/gedit
[08:29] <dr_willis> i said eralier to use 'which gedit' :)
[08:29] <goddard>  bingo
[08:30] <goddard> sorry im hard of listening
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i tought maybe there's a way to ask the system highlighting its default list or something?
[08:30] <goddard> :D
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> can't help my paranoia attitude lol
[08:30] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  i think you are beating a dead horse....
[08:30] <prince_jammys> post-traumatic stress?
[08:30] <forever1> :)
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:30] <dr_willis> time to go read some security web sites..
[08:30] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: get a guard dog. or maybe a pit of crocodiles.
[08:30] <genewitch> sectionme: 50C is stupid hot
[08:30] <Loshki> sectionme: dunno. Try also #freepbx...
[08:30] <prince_jammys> and liability insurance.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> wahahaha
[08:31] <genewitch> sectionme: i run 40 under load... 50C is pushing "i need a new heatsink"
[08:31] <dr_willis> and quit worrying about someone sticking a usb stick in your pc and making it install  some russian-maffia-rootkit-farm
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> roflol
[08:31] <genewitch> dr_willis: YOU NEVER CAN TELL WITH BEES
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> a pit of crocodiles lol
[08:31] <dr_willis> We got Allagators in the usa
[08:32] <dr_willis> Put the pc in a Hive  of Killer bees!
[08:32] <dr_willis> surrounded by fire ants!
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:32] <genewitch> lotuspsychje: superglue your USB ports closed
[08:32]  * lotuspsychje feels a whole lot safer
[08:32] <dr_willis> 'Biggest danger to a Ubuntu system is "U"' :)
[08:33] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: no act of data acquisition is entirely without risk...
[08:33] <forever1> dr_willis:true on last coment
[08:33] <sectionme> genewitch: it seems the temps are controlled by the BIOS and no fan control currently under linux for it, it seems to stableise them at 47.3-48oC no matter what.
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> if they can enter pentagon or fbi, why would they not axs to ubuntu?
[08:34] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: because you don't run a server, and they do.
[08:34] <prince_jammys> there.
[08:34] <genewitch> sectionme: yeah so plug the fans into your outlet at the wall
[08:34] <genewitch> sectionme: you NEVER CAN BE TOO COOLING
[08:34] <genewitch> put that rig in the lake
[08:34] <genewitch> watercooled amirite
[08:34] <dr_willis> Put the PC in a Keg Fridgerator. and run cavles out the hole in the top
[08:34] <genewitch> 12:34AM PST the drunkards get on #ubuntu
[08:35] <genewitch> write it down
[08:35] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: i'm sure ubuntu isn't a valued target as the pentagon or fbi (i bet they are using windows)
[08:35] <dr_willis> fbiuntu!
[08:35]  * sectionme notes that on IRC times without zones are pointless
[08:35] <prince_jammys> what a strange statement.
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> auronadance: lol
[08:35] <sectionme> write it down :P
[08:36] <prince_jammys> they're also, like, running the US military.
[08:36] <forever1> lotuspsychje:What's on your system thats so important to protect?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ive readed that fbi created a linux safe distro?
[08:36] <dr_willis> his lolcat image collection.
[08:36] <prince_jammys> kitties.jpg
[08:36] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: yeah, with flash installed by default
[08:36] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  theres various nsc (nsa?) linux and other os projects for harddended security
[08:37] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: but most importantly, i repeat, you're not running a public-facing server.
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> im just a paranoia user that knows what the underworld is up to
[08:37] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  see http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/
[08:37] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  i doubt if you really know what they are up to. :)
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats the one dr_willis
[08:37] <dr_willis> or else you whouldent be on irc. :)
[08:38] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  with your ip address hanging out there. :)
[08:38] <forever1> lotuspsychje:then set ip:port traps with alerts and setup a ghost system interface
[08:38] <dr_willis> ive notied i get more ssh attempts when im on IRC then when im not. :)
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i read security.nl every day, like millions of users get exploited
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> i think its good for a user not to trust everything right
[08:40] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: install trusted software. use encryption where necessary. install security updates.
[08:40] <forever1> lotuspsychje:true
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> forever1:whats a good ghost system?
[08:41] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: if you're really worried you could consider using tor
[08:41] <prince_jammys> that's a different story. now we're talkin privacy.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> every day they find new tricks to hack into ppl pcbanking websites
[08:41] <forever1> virtual os with virtualbox ported as you network with the virtual os giving shared internet to the host on the back end, it allows you to setup three firewalls
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> tor and vpn would be cool idea yeah
[08:42] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: but you *don't* run a website!
[08:42]  * prince_jammys busts out the hose.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> running a website is even more danger indeed
[08:43] <SeasluG> what is secure ?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> thats my point
[08:43] <Gskellig> how would I convert a folder of raw image files to jpg with imagemagick
[08:43] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: or better yet, for ultimate security: don't connect to the internet
[08:43] <dr_willis> tor is more for anommity not security
[08:43] <Gskellig> doesn't seem to be working
[08:43] <dr_willis> Gskellig:  you got a cli command to do it for one file?
[08:44] <SeasluG> auronandace,  that doesnt mean you secure you still have the human element
[08:44] <Gskellig> dr_willis, its different for one file or a bunch of files
[08:44] <Gskellig> it uses "convert" for one file
[08:44] <Gskellig> or "mogrify" for batch
[08:44] <dr_willis> Gskellig:  or you can use 'find' and have it run the command on each file....
[08:44] <Gskellig> how?
[08:44] <Stereocaulon> Can anyone help me to setup a local DNS server?
[08:44] <dr_willis> or some other bash-script-fu
[08:44] <prince_jammys> or use imagemagick's ability to understand globs, iirc.
[08:44] <OptikKore> hey guys real quick question, do i want FGLRX (post-release updates) or regular FGLRX driver?
[08:45] <dr_willis> # find -iname "MyCProgram.c" -exec md5sum {} \;
[08:45] <dr_willis> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/03/15-practical-linux-find-command-examples/
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://news.softpedia.com/newsTag/kernel+vulnerability
[08:47] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  hate to tell you this.. but i really dont care. :)
[08:47] <dr_willis> unless the dog is going to start haxoring on my pc...
[08:47] <OptikKore> lspci says i have ATI Technologies Inc Device 9804
[08:48] <dr_willis> more find examples --> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl1_findx.htm
[08:49] <xase> Hello, I have an integrated i810 series graphics card, and just added a nvidia card and while jockey asked me if I wanted to install drivers for it I have no clue, how to switch it to being my default display method...
[08:50] <xase> plugging in my vga cord(a really cheap underfeatured thing) to the card doesn't do any sort of auto switching.
[08:50] <dr_willis> xase:  for most pcs it will default to the pci/pcie/whatever card - if theres one plugged in.
[08:50] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: if you're truly obsessive about security, you might even be interested in debian stable, or even some BSD.
[08:50] <dr_willis> there may be bios settings to disalbe the onboard chipset.
[08:50] <xase> I checked... there wasn't... just one to set the preferred graphics card.
[08:50] <dr_willis> You may need to install the nvidia driers, then reboot also.
[08:50] <xase> I set to PCI
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys, i like ubuntu's eyecandy too much :p
[08:50] <xase> I also did that already.
[08:51] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: well, stop worrying then. follow the standard tips we gave and you'll be fine.
[08:51] <dr_willis> you ran the nvidia-settings tool after rebooting?
[08:51] <xase> Nope.
[08:51] <xase> sudo nvidia-settings ?
[08:51] <Evilkiss> Need help?
[08:51] <xase> This is a legacy card...
[08:51] <xase> Does that apply?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: im not worried, i just find it very ironic one reads security exploits everywhere, and then they say systems are secure..
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  if you want a pc that no one will try to hack - try installing Fluffy Linux ---> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/
[08:53] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: the truth is that security is a constant battle -- a lot of time spent.
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  some researcher reporting  that they found a 'potential exploit that is patched by a updaed ersion' isent really  much of an exploit.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> prince_jammys: i agree on that
[08:54] <SI4> How do i donate to ubuntu?
[08:54] <auronandace> !donate | SI4
[08:54] <prince_jammys> lotuspsychje: just focus on the attacks that would apply to *you*, and be cautious.
[08:54] <SI4> is it non profit org, for tax deductions?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lol i like the pink layout, but where are my crocodiles :p
[08:55] <dr_willis> the bunnies ate them
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu flavors for every1 :p
[08:55] <prince_jammys> SI4: no.
[08:55] <SI4> thats too bad
[08:57] <xase> Hmm
[08:58] <xase> Is there a way to tell it to use a specific card using a terminal, just to test to make sure it even works?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: you know as well as me that not everyone will update every day
[08:58] <OptikKore> do i want FGLRX (post-release updates) or regular FGLRX driver?
[08:58] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: sounds like you will
[08:59] <dr_willis> ubuntu has auto-update security updates features.. thats the main thing.
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: yes updated ocelot 64 bit on ssd
[08:59] <xase> ...
[08:59] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: so why worry about other peoples security?
[09:00] <buhman> how do I resize MBR partitions that contain dm_crypt+lvm2?
[09:00] <xase> lotuspsychje, except for ocd folks who have their special boxes set up to do just that with cron :p
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: why not worry opensource, every1 benefits
[09:01] <dr_willis> pointless worrying is pointless
[09:02] <hansg01> have 2 ubuntu distros installed in my system
[09:02] <hansg01> how to make HOME directory common for both
[09:02] <hansg01> ?
[09:03] <prince_jammys> normally by putting /home in its own partition.
[09:03] <dr_willis> that can cause issues hansg01  you coul duse a common /home partition with differnt user names.
[09:03] <xase> hangs01 set home as a seperate partition, and make sure both users have the correct permissions and user id.
[09:04] <hansg01> xase: ok will make a separate partition mounted as /home
[09:04] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, that would normally not be a smart thing to do, better symlink individual dirs.
[09:04] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: synlink?
[09:04] <dr_willis> or use a /partition/home   and a /partition/home2
[09:04] <xase> I'd agree that keeping seperate users is a better idea.
[09:05] <hansg01> xase: what's nxt
[09:05] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, ln -s <target > <source>
[09:05] <Stereocaulon> !symlink | hansg01
[09:05] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: okay terminal
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: if u ever visited irc warez channels full of rooted unix boxes, you'd worry too
[09:06] <hansg01> is there any way to downgrade to ubuntu 11.10?
[09:06] <Ririshi> Hello. I think you still know me, I tried to install Ubuntu 11.10 but it didn't work. I'm installing Lubuntu now and it works!
[09:06] <hansg01> i am on 12.04 alpha 2
[09:06] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, not exactly the output I hoped for from ubottu. Well, a symlink is a kind of shortcut that functions as if the directory/ file was really there
[09:07] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: okay
[09:07] <hansg01> can i downgrade back to 11.10?
[09:07] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, you probably want to share the bookmarks in firefox and the documents, right?
[09:07] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: i want if i play with my distros i dnt lose my data
[09:09] <xase> !ln
[09:09] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: i recently played with unity and got it rashed and then with gnome and got it crasheed too so had to dist upgrade 11.10 but it is an alpha release so having problems while working on projects else its cool
[09:09] <xase> hmm
[09:09] <xase> :0
[09:09] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, oh so that's your worry. Well, why don't you make backup of your /home partition then and store it on another partition, that you can name for instance, home2, or simply homeback?
[09:10] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: hmm seems like a good idea!
[09:10] <Ririshi> m
[09:10] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks!
[09:11] <Ririshi> Oops sorry. I am installing Lubuntu because Ubuntu didn't work. Am I right here? Or should I got to another channel?
[09:11] <hansg01> btw is there any way that i can downgrade distro's except giving it a fresh install?
[09:11] <dr_willis> hansg01:  reinstall is how to do it.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !info gns3
[09:11] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, np :-) and remember to file bugs for 12.04 if you run into snags, (after you have searched if the bug has not been reported of course). That way we'll have a better release and that will help all Ubuntu users
[09:11] <goddard> anyone know if you can intergrate the unity thing with docky?
[09:12] <dr_willis> you can run docky at tehsame time goddard  what do you want to do exactly?
[09:12] <forever1> goddard:yes you can
[09:12] <goddard> forever1: sweet how?
[09:12] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: yeah i am but i am reporting bugs as of nw dnt really hv experience of filing bugs
[09:13] <forever1> which version of linux?
[09:13] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, Is there something you want to ask about reporting bugs?
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !info blueproximity
[09:13] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, something specific?
[09:14] <forever1> Just use the ubuntu software center to install the docking menu
[09:14] <travmon> WeeChat uptime: 0 day 01:19:01, started on Sun Jan 29 03:55:25 2012
[09:15] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: better i should read the docs first then will return back or i'll be the one to ask who dnt know anything abt bugs
[09:15] <dr_willis> Hmm. Blueproximity seems neat. I need a front door lock that does that for me  :)
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks a lot!
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, sounds like a splendid idea, but if you get stuck don't hesitate to ask help.
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: thnks a lot!
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, dont't mention it.
[09:16] <Ririshi> Should I install my GRUB Loader in the MBR? (i am installing lubuntu)
[09:16] <Stereocaulon> hansg01, and thanks in advance for making good bug reports :-)
[09:16] <hansg01> Stereocaulon: :)
[09:16] <bullgard4> prince_jammys, dr_willis: Thank you for commenting and help.
[09:17] <forever1> one hour uptime 400kb/s used on irc interesting
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> !info awn
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> !info avant-window-navigator
[09:18] <dr_willis> lots of neat dock thangs  out there these days
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah agree
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> looks nice
[09:19] <goddard> forever1: 11.10
[09:19] <Ririshi> Help! I just installed Lubuntu on a partition on my main HDD but it still starts Windows!
[09:20] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  a wubi install? or a normal full install
[09:20] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I installed from a LiLi USB Booter.
[09:20] <goddard> forever1: i want to use docky but still have the ubuntu button on docky
[09:21] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  sounds like it dident install grub to the MBR for some reason
[09:21] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !info snort-mysql
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> interesting stuff
[09:24] <goddard> you like snort?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> !info chkrootkit
[09:24] <forever1> goddard: just use the ubuntu software center to install the docking center and restart
[09:24]  * dr_willis snorts
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> like a pig
[09:25] <dr_willis> !info logwatch
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> is that in realtime?
[09:25] <dr_willis> it parese your log historys. so no
[09:26] <dr_willis> it shows who has been tying to ssh in to your box. :) and other neat infos
[09:26] <goddard> forever1:  already installed it but it doesn't have the "ubuntu button"
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !info harden-environment
[09:27] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, /msg ubottu please
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> lol, NOTE! This package will not make your system uncrackable, and it is not intended to do so. Making your system secure involves a LOT more than just installing a package.
[09:27] <stefancrs> Hey, I'm trying to help a friend who's webserver goes down every sunday morning. I ssh'd into the machine and noticed that Lightthpd had been shut down due to a initiated system restart, which obviously never finished because everything else is still up and running. It's not initiated via a cronjob, what else can perform a scheduled reboot of the system?
[09:27] <stefancrs> (it's a vps)
[09:27] <Ririshi> dr_willis: Hello. I booted from my Lubuntu stick, what to do now?
[09:27] <forever1> goddard: thats odd, you will need to change it in the menu options
[09:28] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Ririshi
[09:29] <goddard> forever1: nothing in menu options.. you use docky?
[09:29] <Ririshi> dr_willis: i have the following options: install lubuntu, check disc for defects, tedt memory, boot from first hard disc, rescue a broken system. Can't boot into live mode.
[09:30] <forever1> goddard:yes but everything worx on mine dr_willis: any idea's
[09:30] <goddard> forever1: everything works on mine just no "ubuntu button"
[09:30] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  try rescue broken system>
[09:30] <goddard> ill relog let me see
[09:30] <Ririshi> dr_willis: okay i will try.
[09:30] <forever1> goddard:ok
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: email reports are nice in logwatch cool!
[09:33] <dr_willis> i just use it for the ssh loging  reports to show me how many people have been trying to get in. :)
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: and many try?
[09:35] <Ririshi> dr_willis: it asks which thing i want to use for basicfilesystem?
[09:35] <dr_willis> and i use the various ip auto blacklsting  services -
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> sounds nice
[09:35] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  no idea all i can say is read along at that fixgrub url. I dont have the menus and revovery stuff meorized
[09:35] <Ririshi> Okay
[09:37] <snimavat> How do i switch off nvidia GT 525 M optimus card ? I dont need it at all at this time...
[09:37] <snimavat> I have dell XPS 502 X
[09:37] <dr_willis> bios settings perhaps snimavat >
[09:37] <dr_willis> Those dual GPU machines can be.. annoying and badly supported at times (for now)
[09:37] <snimavat> do u have any idea what is it called in dell xps ?
[09:38] <snimavat> the name of the setting ?
[09:38] <dr_willis> No idea. May not even hae the setting.
[09:39] <snimavat> Oh. i will checkout, is there any other way ?
[09:39] <dr_willis> theres the askubuntu and forum posts  that may have info.
[09:42] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I reïnstalled GRUB on the MBR and it still starts windows. Do i need to press a key-combi or something?
[09:43] <dr_willis> not normally Ririshi
[09:43] <dr_willis> if you got a spare flash drive you could isnatt grub to that
[09:43] <dr_willis> it could be windows or some av settings in bios undoing the grub install
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> isnt there a gui grub editor to set ubuntu as first boot?
[09:44] <Ririshi> dr_willis: Isnatt?
[09:44] <dr_willis> huh?
[09:44] <razorfish> lotuspsychje: isnt it easy enough to open the grub config with a notepad and drop ubuntu as the first entry?
[09:44] <dr_willis> theres various ways to reorder the grub entries.
[09:45] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  you dont even see the grub menu do you?
[09:45] <markyxxxz> Hello, has anybody here experienced losing the keyboard and/or touchpad from their laptops? It only happens on the current Ubuntu install. On Windows 7 or Live Ubuntu, both keyboard and touchpad works properly.
[09:45] <Ririshi> dr_willis: It doesn't show a menu. Just starts Windows 7..
[09:45] <forever1> markyxxxz:thats a driver problem you must update
[09:45] <goddard> forever1: nope restarting didn't add the ubuntu button
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: maybe set BIOS keyboard and mouse to bios instead of Os
[09:46] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  so it sounds like  either the bios Might have some 'protect the bootloader' option. or some how grub is not getting installed,m or installed wrongly
[09:46] <markyxxxz> forever1: please be specific. I already re-intstalled the xserver-xorg-input packages
[09:46] <Ririshi> dr_willis: ill check bios.
[09:46] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: How is that done?
[09:46] <Ririshi> dr_willis: lol im only 13 xd
[09:47] <forever1> goddard:then you will have to open it from the termal alt-f2 and let the docky pick it up as a recently use app
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: start the pc and press esc, del or f2 to enter BIOS, then search for the keyboard option (Os or BIOS) and set to bios
[09:48] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje:You meant go to BIOS then set it there? I"m not sure if my BIOS has that option.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> markyxxxz: its worth a try
[09:48] <forever1> markyxxxz: think about it on ubuntu live it uses generic and on ubuntu install it finds drivers, so you need to to revert
[09:49] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: Ok. That's weird. I never touched my BIOS. What i did was tried AMD Catalyst 12.1. It worked. Then when I restarted, that's when everything got screwed.
[09:49] <forever1> back to generic
[09:49] <forever1> g2g :)
[09:50] <markyxxxz> so I deleted all fglrx* related packages like I'ev done countless times in the past. Never had this issue of losing keyboard, mouse or touchapd. Thisis the first time.
[09:50] <dr_willis> the askubuntu.com site had some info on using the newer catalyst drivers
[09:50] <dr_willis> i had to use them the other day to get unity workng on this box
[09:50] <Stereocaulon> Does anyone know how to map a special key (I have utility keys on top of my keyboard) to the Zenkaku key present on Japanese keyboards?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !jp
[09:50] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Link please? Really 12.1 worked on my hybrid ATI+intel but after reboot got screwed. So no go there. It was a temporary joy for me and now it's a nightmare LL
[09:50] <markyxxxz> LOL*
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> maybe jp chan will know?
[09:51] <Stereocaulon> lotuspsychje, thanks for the tip, I'm already logged in there, but it is kind of quiet there...
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !ati | markyxxxz
[09:52] <markyxxxz> lotuspsychje: Oh, I've read those. Thanks nonetheless. :)
[09:52] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Im running natty, i live overseas (the middle east) and in my web browser (friefox) the default language keeps switching back to arabic.  The settings in firefox tell it to use english so I think this is an ubuntu issue.  My google searches are coming up empty and telling me to do things ive already tried.
[09:52] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  cant find it. it was on askubuntu.com
[09:52] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  hybrid is a whole nother area of problems
[09:53] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Was it for the latest - 12.1? Two sites already confirms 12.1 works for Hybrid ATI+Intel graphics.
[09:53] <markyxxxz> I think on Phoronix and Linux Hybrid Blogspot
[09:54] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I checked bios
[09:54] <markyxxxz> jasonmsp: I think there is a firefox language add-on you might have to change. I remember that getting installed whenever I update Firefox.
[09:54] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  the gide i followed i think installed the latest from the amd site
[09:54] <dr_willis> catalyst11.12  is what i got going
[09:55] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: That is Hybrid yes?
[09:55] <Ririshi> dr_willis: still starts windows. How to put grub on a flash?
[09:55] <dr_willis> fglrx_8.920-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[09:55] <dr_willis> i have no idea on hybrid
[09:55] <travmon> Ririshi: partedmagic has good tools from extras menu that should get you back in your system
[09:55] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  insert flash, determind the /dev/sdXX name of the flash use the same tools/commands to install grub to that /dev/sdXXX
[09:55] <Ririshi> travmon: what? Linux newb
[09:55] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Ayt. Well I don't care about that stupid fglrx driver for now. Just want myk keyboard and touchpad working again. :(
[09:55] <markyxxxz> ehehhe
[09:56] <travmon> !partedmagic
[09:56] <travmon> Ririshi: http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> try the info trigger travmon
[09:56] <Ririshi> dr_willis: how to know what /dev/sdXX my flash is?
[09:57] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  plug it in.. look at dmesg output. or sudo fdisk -l  output
[09:57] <Stereocaulon> Ririshi, just perform a sudo fdisk -l -h
[09:57] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  guide i followed was --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62808/ati-incompatible-with-gnome-shell
[09:57] <dr_willis> markyxxxz:  i still cant get gnome-shell working right.
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Do you have more than one internal drive?
[09:58] <markyxxxz> dr_willis: Yeah I hear fglrc is bad on gS
[09:58] <Ririshi> Stereocaulon: dr_willis: Should I start the terminal from the USB LiLi installer?
[09:58] <markyxxxz> ok... later guys ;)
[09:59] <Stereocaulon> Ririshi, yes that seems sensible.
[09:59] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  how have you been trying to reinstall grub? You do it the same way but install grub to a flash drive instead of the hard drive.. could be yuve been doing somthing wrong.
[09:59] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: Yes I do, but I can't start my WInXP. I don't know why. I normally use Win7
[10:00]  * dr_willis dosent really trust LiLi very mich.
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[10:01] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Ririshi
[10:01] <Stereocaulon> brb
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: did you try another distro with gnome-shell as default to test?
[10:02] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  nope. I just have this one amd/ati box.  It wouldent even do unity, or gnome shell by default - the fglrx drivers in the repos had issues also.. tried the ones following that guide. unity works.. g-s semi-works has graphic curruption all the time in differnt areas
[10:03] <Ririshi> Jordan_U how should I run it? From the USB loader?
[10:03] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  from what i gather theres kernel 3.x and fglrx issues.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Yes.
[10:04] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  err.. how else could you run it? you just have the one bootable usb drive?
[10:04] <Ririshi> Jordan_U may I have a command? dr_willis: Yeah, only that. And a windows system xd
[10:05] <dr_willis> there is that grub repair tool that you can intall from the live cd - to help fix grub. but i cant recall the url. It may be at that fixgrub wiki page.
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: See the guide linked to you by ubottu.
[10:05] <dr_willis> i tend to always make a spare usb with grub for each pc. :) so i rarely need to repair it
[10:06] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[10:06] <dr_willis> 'boot repair' thats it. :) gotta love it.. needs to be on the default intalls/cds
[10:06] <Ririshi> dr_willis: You don't get it.. I try to install Lubuntu. No live Start is possible..
[10:07] <Ririshi> dr_willis: is that normal? XD
[10:08] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  never noticed.  thoguht there was a 'try' and 'install' and 'repair' options
[10:08] <Ririshi> dr_willis: wait.. I downloaded the alternate amd64
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out fellas
[10:08] <dr_willis> the alt-cd is a text only installer....
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> tnx for an interesting chat
[10:09] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  you may want to just get that 'boot-repair-disk'  mentioned at the fixgrub url and use it
[10:09] <dr_willis> or try installing using a normal desktop cd
[10:10] <SteM> hi all, i'0m trying to update 11.04 to 11.10 by CD but it doesn't make me select 'upgrate 11.04 to 11.10'. Why ?
[10:10] <dr_willis> SteM:  yo have the desktop cd? or the alt-installer cd?
[10:11] <Ririshi> dr_willis: God lol i need to wait 4 hours again... Slow download speeds...
[10:11] <SteM> i think desktop cd, but i downloaded it a month ago ..
[10:11] <aBound> Ririshi, On dial-up? :P
[10:11] <dr_willis> SteM:  the desktop cd does not support that feature as far as i know. Only the alt-cd does
[10:12] <Ririshi> aBound: DSL modem should have about 4Mbit but only have 160Kbyte
[10:12] <SteM> desktop cd allow me only an installation from the scratch ?
[10:12] <aBound> The alternative Ubuntu iso image is more suited if you want a customized version of Ubuntu.
[10:12] <dr_willis> SteM:  it does not function as a repository for updateing.. correct.  Unless theres been changes to it.
[10:12] <Ririshi> aBound: they can't give us more, because we're at the end of the line or sthZz
[10:12] <Ririshi> ..*
[10:13] <SteM> thanks
[10:13] <aBound> Ririshi, I used to have that kind of speed but with DSL usually the higher you pay the more speed you get.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: If you want something automated and small (less than 2 MiB) that will allow you to boot your Ubuntu install you may want to try Super GRUB2 Disk.
[10:13] <dr_willis> i got so much speed now.. i used up my 250gb quota in a week... :)
[10:14] <Ririshi> Jordan_U okay
[10:15] <aBound> dr_willis, HA! Sounds like you had fun.
[10:15] <dr_willis> kids did watching netflix.. :)
[10:15] <aBound> hehe
[10:15] <dr_willis> 'Honest i did not do any torrenting....' :)
[10:16] <aBound> :P
[10:16] <isotta> #ubuntu.it
[10:16] <aBound> Torrenting is completely legitimate given some Linux ISOs are hosted on it.
[10:16] <dr_willis> that boot-repair tool is really.. getting impressive
[10:16] <Ririshi> How do I get the iso on my USB?
[10:16] <dr_willis> They need to make a mini-iso with it on there.
[10:16] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[10:16] <Ririshi> (Super GRUB2 Disc)
[10:17] <bazhang> Ririshi, with what tool
[10:17] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  use unetbootin, or tools from pendrivelinux, or other tools
[10:17] <Ririshi> dr_willis: okay
[10:17] <dr_willis> Ririshi:  i tend to use the stuff from Pendrivelinux, i dont care for 'LiLi'
[10:17] <aBound> Ririshi, If you aren't already using Ubuntu there's: Start Up Disk Creator.
[10:17] <dr_willis> unetbootin was problematic for me last year.. i hear its gotten better these days
[10:17] <Ririshi> dr_willis: I mean the ISO for Super GRUB2 Disc.
[10:18] <dr_willis> I dont use supergrub2 so no idea.. pendrivelinux tools most likely can do it
[10:18] <dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[10:18] <kaipreshaw> hello is there a way for ubuntu 11.04 to stop killing my wifi app
[10:20] <pk> hi all i have problem in starting dhcp server
[10:20] <kaipreshaw> hello is there a way for ubuntu 11.04 to stop killing my wifi app it kills it as i put my laptops lid down
[10:20] <snimavat> I am planning to dual boot with windows 7, should i create additional partition before i start ubuntu installation, or should i just do the partition when installer asks for it.
[10:21] <snimavat> Any other suggestions ?
[10:21] <skilz> kaipreshaw, Thats because your computer is going to sleep/hibernate I *assume*...
[10:21] <kaipreshaw> skilz it locks as i put it down
[10:21] <skilz> snimavat, Just start the Ubuntu installation, you can do all the partitioning in there
[10:21] <pk> this is the problem of dhcp
[10:22] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:22] <snimavat> great.. any other suggestions/recommendation for dual booting with win7 ?
[10:22] <moes> I am using k3b in Ubuntu 10.04...I cannot erase/format a cd/rw disc..getting error "cdrecord has no permisson to open device"
[10:22] <pk> when i start it shows the following message in syslog http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:23] <skilz> kaipreshaw, sudo apt-get install xfce4-power-manager | You can configure your power settings how you like.
[10:23] <kaipreshaw> skilz thanks dude
[10:23] <skilz> snimavat, Easy as 1, 2, 3.
[10:23] <skilz> kaipreshaw, np
[10:24] <snimavat> skilz: shoudl i defrag drives before i proceed for installation ?
[10:24] <pk> anybody repond to dhcp problem please
[10:25] <isotta> 	#cm-plus
[10:26] <Ririshi> dr_willis: installing Super GRUB2 Disc to USB now
[10:26] <pk> dhcp server problem
[10:26] <pk> please
[10:26] <dr_willis> i cant recall ever using superfrub2 disk :)
[10:26] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:26] <Ririshi> I'll try starting now. see you soon.
 do you know how to solve dhcp server start problem
[10:27] <pk> http://pastebin.com/185f7j15
[10:27] <overclucker> Ririshi: sgd2 installs in unetbootin
[10:28] <yumbo> How can I set permissions for directories like I do for files? (i.e. chmod 774 -R /dir)
[10:28] <llutz> yumbo: same , man chmod
[10:29] <yumbo> llutz, tbh I didn't found it there
 DHCP server problem
[10:29] <bazhang> !helpme | pk
[10:29] <llutz> yumbo: it makes no difference if you chmod a file or a directory, syntax is always the same
[10:30] <llutz> yumbo: just options like -R make no sense on files
[10:30] <kaipreshaw> skilz it said that it cant find it
[10:30] <yumbo> llutz, when I did a chmod 774 -R on a dir, every file within that dir became r/w/x for user and group, but only listing for others
[10:31] <yumbo> llutz, so I couldn't access the files with an "other" user
[10:31] <llutz> !permissions| yumbo: yes? read man chmod again
[10:31] <llutz> yumbo: you need to learn what "x - executable" bit does on dirs
[10:32] <skilz> kaipreshaw, Do may have to add more sources
[10:32] <yumbo> llutz, it allows it to traverse
[10:32] <skilz> just google for the package name I told you and you will find the source list
[10:32] <yumbo> llutz, but I don't see a way to set only x on dirs (not files) ?
[10:33] <pk> DHCP server failed to start
[10:33] <kaipreshaw> skilz, how ? will it mess up my source that im on?
[10:33] <llutz> yumbo: again and again "man chmod", read about "X" uppercase X
[10:33] <bazhang> pk patience
[10:33] <skilz> kaipreshaw, You can copy my sources.list if you like, one sec
[10:33] <kaipreshaw> skilz, im not used to 11.04
[10:34] <dr_willis> Jan 29 15:41:41 kickseed dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[10:34] <llutz> yumbo: it's something you can't do easily with octal-notation
 okkk
[10:34] <dr_willis> pk:  so... configure it to listen on an interface.
[10:34] <overclucker> yumbo: use find dirname -type d -exec chmod PERMS {} \;
[10:34] <skilz> kaipreshaw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/821059/
[10:35] <yumbo> llutz, ah, I found it buried is some example in the manpage
[10:35] <yumbo> llutz, so all I need to do is "chmod 774 -R /dir && chmod +X -R /dir" ?
[10:36] <kaipreshaw> skilz,  thanks
[10:36] <moes> I am using k3b in Ubuntu 10.04...I cannot erase/format a cd/rw disc..getting error "cdrecord has no permisson to open device"
[10:37] <dr_willis> moes:  check the k3b setup/settings - it may be some permissions are not et right on the cd devices
[10:38] <Ririshi> Hey, I am back. I tried to start it, but it didn't work. I am going to burn the Super GRUB2 Disc onto a CD
[10:38] <moes> dr_willis, Checked the permissions and they read 666.root cdrom
[10:39] <dr_willis> moes:  i recall in the k3b menus/settings some configuration wizard that may tell you if snything is not set right
 this is my configuration file i hav econfigured it properlyhttp://pastebin.com/m4ydhpqY
 http://pastebin.com/m4ydhpqY
 i configured it on eth1 to listen on 192.168.1.0
[10:44] <lessless> anybody aware how to run programs with other user id? ALT+F2 -> gksu -u www-data geany show nothing :(
[10:44] <moes> dr_willis, In k3b setting it list cdrecord 1.1.10 /usr/bin/wodin permissions 4711 root.root new permissions no change
[10:45] <S-I4> Is it possible to get tax deductions for donations made to ubuntu?
[10:45] <pksadiq> pk: check ps aux | grep dhcp  and stop/kill all process using that, also stop/kill named if running, (this might disconnect you from internet) and try restarting dhcpd3 or whatever
[10:47] <pk> <pk sadiq> root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
[10:48] <pk> this is response
[10:48] <skilz> pk, You can just use pgrep appname
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[10:48] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with vlc... according to the internet it should work to open youtube-videos with vlc... however, when i select "open network-stream" and enter the address of the video, vlc says that it can't open it... does any1 know how to get it working?
[10:48] <pksadiq> pk: and what about ps aux | grep named     ?
 root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
 response of your command
[10:49] <pksadiq> pk: what about ps aux | grep named
[10:49] <pk> pksadiq: root      1020  0.0  0.0   3712   788 pts/0    S+   16:17   0:00 grep --color=auto dhcp
[10:49] <pksadiq> pk: see grep *named* , did you do that?
[10:49] <dr_willis> no need topaste the ps command showing the grep command. :)
[10:50] <m4k> after minimalist installation i tried to install gui from ubuntu-alternate-11.10 cd. When try to install metacity that install other packages too. How i install pure metacity
[10:50] <DevSoul> [Automato Mhnuma]: hello ti kanete
[10:50] <pk> pksadiq:bind       672  0.0  0.5  70800 10852 ?        Ssl  15:27   0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind root      1022  0.0  0.0   3712   784 pts/0    S+   16:20   0:00 grep --color=auto named
[10:50] <pk> this is th response pksadiq:
[10:51] <pksadiq> pk: hm kill that then try to start dhcp again
[10:51] <dr_willis> m4k:  if metacity depends on othe rpackages. it will pull them in. why do you want just 'metacity' its a very bare bones wm.
[10:51] <pk> pksadiq: how to kill it
[10:51] <pk> tell me the command
[10:51] <pk>  pksadiq:
[10:52] <m4k> dr_willis:my system is old
[10:52] <pksadiq> pk: try sudo killall named
[10:52] <dr_willis> m4k:  you would be better off not using just 'metacity' if you want a minimal window manager. try jwm or icewm
[10:52] <pksadiq> pk: you might get disconnected from internet
[10:53] <m4k> dr_willis: how to download that
[10:53] <pk> pksadiq: this is all for an another computer
[10:53] <dr_willis> m4k:  its in the repos.
[10:53] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[10:53] <dr_willis> 'pure X11' = wont need the gtk or other larger libs
[10:53] <pk> pkasdiq: no error message displayed i think it executed perfectly
[10:54] <pk> pksadiq: next what should i do?
[10:54] <m4k> dr_willis: in my system no internet. So how i download packages with all dependencies
[10:54] <cristoff20> #peb.pl
[10:54] <dr_willis> m4k:  no idea  - i never do it that way.
[10:55] <andai> Hello #ubuntu. I'm considering buying two high quality SSDs ( read/write both 500 mbps ) and doing a software RAID 0 on them ( just for fun ). At this speed, I imagine the load on my CPU would be incredibly heavy? Am I right for imagining this? Should I also get a quad core processor while I'm at it?
[10:55] <pksadiq> pk: try starting dhcp, btw, I used dnsmasq to do the same when I had to run pxeboot
[10:55] <m4k> How to download a package with all dependencies
[10:55] <aBound> andai, I'd get a quad-core I don't see a reason not too.
[10:56] <dr_willis> andai:  for the price - you may be better off getting more cpu and holding off on a 2nd hd..
[10:56] <dr_willis> performance vs budget :)
[10:56] <andai> dr_willis: Actually both drives are about 60 euro... i might be better off just not-raiding them
[10:56] <andai> lol
[10:56] <andai> just using software backups of my important stuff
[10:56] <dr_willis> 60 euro is rahter cheap isentit?
[10:57] <pk> pksadiq: same message in syslog which i posted earlier
[10:57] <pksadiq> pk: try using dnsmasq
[10:58] <pk> pksadiq: what is the command
[10:58] <andai> Dr_Willis: oh my bad, 80 euro. For 170e I can get a 128GB drive (r535 / w170) and for 80e I can get one 60GB drive (r535 / w480)
[10:58] <andai> Dr_Willis: Basically what I'm asking is if the CPU overhead of RAID 0 at such high speeds would make the computer unusably slow (thus defeating the original purpose of the RAID 0 setup )
[10:59] <pksadiq> pk: sudo apt-get install dnsmasq          configure it and run sudo dnsmasq
[10:59] <dr_willis> andai:  ive never heard of it being an issue.
[10:59] <m4k> How to download a package with all dependencies
[10:59] <dr_willis> hd speeds are alwyas the biggest bottleneck - even with ssd's i hear
[10:59] <pk> pksadiq:how to configure it
[10:59] <dr_willis> !aptoncd | m4k
[11:01] <rigved> m4k: or you could use the command: sudo apt-get install --download-only <package-name>
[11:01] <aasasd> Is there a way to insert dots instead of spaces in gedit?
[11:01] <andai> dr_willis: Ok thanks
[11:01] <pksadiq> pk: edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf  I had only experience with pxeboot, nothing more
[11:02] <pk> i also want to boot another computer through this computer with dhcp
[11:02] <pk> i mean pxe boot
[11:02] <pk> sksadiq:
[11:03] <pksadiq> pk: good, so let me try to post my configurations for you
[11:04] <greenit> plz help :S    i use the youtube-lens for unity, but when i click a video, it opens vlc and vlc says that it can't open the video
[11:05] <yumbo> overclucker, thanks, but I did it like this in the end: find "$dir2" -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 775
[11:05] <pk> skadiq: i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:05] <pk> sasadiq:i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:06] <pksadiq> pk: my dnsmasq.conf file: http://pastebin.com/CJ0EmCiT
[11:06] <pk> sksadiq:i cant see dnsmasq.conf in etc
[11:06] <aBound> greenit, Figures if it isn't in the Official repository we can't do much helpwise.
[11:06] <greenit> aBound, i think it's a problem of vlc, and this is in the official repos
[11:07] <aBound> I'm referring to youtube-lenses.
[11:07] <aBound> :P
[11:07] <greenit> aBound, true, but i tried to open a youtube-video with vlc without the lens and it displays the same error
[11:07] <aBound> Seeing as Youtube-Lenses has to be fetched from a unofficial PPA.
[11:07] <pksadiq> pk: and my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/PwNz3DLU
[11:08] <aBound> greenit, Any form of VLC plugin installed to view the videos?
[11:08] <greenit> aBound, nope, i just installed vlc... do i have to install a plugin?
[11:09] <aBound> greenit, I can't say but if it's loading VLC as it's default player. Figures, it'll need a VLC plugin for Firefox.
[11:10] <aBound> I don't use youtube-lenses I can't comment much on that aspect. But if you'd like to try you can install the Mozilla plugin for VLC in the Software Center.
[11:10] <greenit> aBound, i enter the url in the "open network-stream..." dialogue of vlc, then it says that it can't determine the format of the video...
[11:11] <greenit> aBound, so it doesn't open when i just click on a youtube-video in firefo
[11:11] <greenit> x
[11:11] <bjarni> Hello everyone.  Can someone help me with postgresql.  Cant get it to work properly after upgrade
[11:12] <aBound> greenit, I don't think the youtube URL is meant for the "Open Network Stream".
[11:12] <pk> pksadiq: now i have copied the conf files
[11:12] <ikonia> define can't it it to work
[11:12] <greenit> aBound, oh, ok... i just did it because a tutorial on a website said this is the way to open youtube-vids with vlc
[11:14] <omer> having trouble configuring bluetooth. Ralink Motorola BC4 Bluetooth 3.0+HS Adapter. anyone?
[11:14] <aBound> greenit, Not a fan of tutorials they can be poorly written or misleading. At times they can be useful but if you're learning programming or something else best to stick too a book.
[11:14] <pksadiq> pk: now try to start  sudo dnsmasq        and try to boot the other computer
[11:15] <ilpollo> hi, please the spanish chanel tanks
[11:15] <ikonia> #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <ikonia> !es | ilpollo
[11:16] <greenit> aBound, hm... ok, one last question: do you know the path of the lua-directory of vlc in ubuntu?
[11:17] <aBound> greenit, Though it does show a URL of youtube in Open Network Stream doesn't seem like anything is playing.
[11:17] <omer> Hi. I'm having trouble configuring bluetooth. Ralink Motorola BC4 Bluetooth 3.0+HS Adapter. anyone?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> greenit  try locate lua
[11:18] <aasasd> Is there a way to insert dots instead of spaces in gedit?
[11:18] <dr_willis> aasasd:  why do you want to?
[11:18] <aBound> greenit, Not that I know of.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> aasasd  in an existing text, you can replace spaces with the 'sed' (stream editor)
[11:19] <aBound> greenit, I assume this is it: /usr/share/vlc/lua
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> the 'sed' command*
[11:19] <aBound> greenit, But than again this could be it too: /etc/vlc/lua
[11:19] <aasasd> dr_willis: It shows indentation more clearly.
[11:20] <dr_willis> aasasd:  the fte and other text editors have ways to show 'whitespace' with special characters
[11:20] <dr_willis> aasasd:  i think fte and geany both can do it.
[11:20] <aasasd> I'm talking about gedit
[11:20] <dr_willis> check the gedit plugins i suggest then
[11:21] <dr_willis> gedit is rather basic compared to other text editors out there
[11:21] <dr_willis> they may have a 'show whitespace' settings/plugin
[11:22] <codepal> yole! what does cotendo.net have to do with ubuntu?
[11:22] <dr_willis> codepal:  never heard of it
[11:23] <codepal> content delivery network -- it's running stuff in the background for Ubuntu 12.04
[11:23] <codepal> apparently Akamai bought them out
[11:23] <juho> shot games for upuntu
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> "An innovator of cloud-based acceleration technologies, Cotendo offers an integrated suite of Web and Mobile Acceleration Services from its 30 global distributed point of presence (POPs). "
[11:23] <juho> ?????
[11:23] <codepal> so, yeha, I wanna know why it's connected to MY MACHINE!
[11:24] <juho> :D
[11:24] <dr_willis> they are acellerating your cloud!
[11:24] <codepal> I'm taking this up with jono, hey jono! you in the room?
[11:24] <codepal> Ubuntu One?
[11:24] <codepal> your kiddin?
[11:25] <dr_willis> 'An innovator of cloud-based acceleration'   - whatever that means....
[11:25] <codepal> my cloud is accellerated enough
[11:25] <codepal> ffs
[11:25] <aBound> Dropbox?
[11:25] <codepal> nope
[11:26] <codepal> this is a almost clean install of Ubuntu "Precison" 12
[11:26] <aBound> I think it's time for me to hit the sack. Night all. :P
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> codepal  ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <codepal> MonkeyDust, done dat already :P
[11:27] <codepal> everyone's still wakin up in USA, obviously...
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> "dat" is dutch, you dutch?
[11:28] <codepal> nope
[11:28] <codepal> ok, thanks, bye
[11:31] <Guest11872> Hi! I want to dual boot my PC by installing Windows and Ubuntu on totally seperate partitions of same HDD. Need help!
[11:32] <dr_willis> Guest11872:  thats how its normally done.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest11872  first win, then linux, or your grub will be ruined
[11:33] <dr_willis> Guest11872:  also wats your current hard drive partioning layout If you have 4 primary partitios - it can  cause issues
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest11872  read this http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[11:39] <Ron-ff> hi and peace agin, i'm looking for a web forum or chat without registration to ask about buying stuff and more. any help with that?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Ron-ff  define "stuff and more"
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> ah buying
[11:40] <Ron-ff> yeah
[11:40] <Ron-ff> any forum which is friendly or chat?
[11:40] <Ben64> try reddit
[11:40] <dr_willis> buying what exactly?
[11:41] <Ron-ff> dr_willis: for examople. i men finger ring in neon color like yellow of blue
[11:42] <Ben64> i know all those words, but in that combination it doesn't make any sense
[11:42] <Ron-ff> Ben64: reddit???
[11:42] <dr_willis> Ben64:  :) i was thinking that also..
[11:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:42] <Ron-ff> ring for a finger which is in cool color like glowing yellow
[11:42] <dr_willis> You really need advice for such a trivial thing?
[11:43] <Ron-ff> probably not in existence
[11:43] <Ben64> try ebay then...
[11:43] <dr_willis> qvc.com :)
[11:43] <dr_willis> bye all..
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> or go to a market somewhere
[11:43] <Ron-ff> dr_willis: no such things was found at enbay
[11:43] <GR33N> h1 all
[11:43] <Ben64> etsy
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Ron-ff  in a toystore maybe
[11:45] <Ron-ff> MonkeyDust: so anyway do you know of more forums (whch are friendly) or chat rooms here or somewhere else?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> please Ron-ff this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:46] <Ron-ff> so you don't know of off topic channels?
[11:46] <oCean> !alis | Ron-ff
[11:51] <Industrial> I mounted a Linux disk volume from my SSD with this Ubuntu Live/Install CD (USB ISO) and I wanted to edit its etc/inittab but I can't save the file. I did the mounting with Disk Tool. How do I write that file?
[11:52] <pritam_baral> Industrial: you need to have opened the file as root. sudo gedit <mountpoint_of_ssd>/etc/inittab
[11:52] <Industrial> k
[11:53] <bastidrazor> pritam_baral: Industrial for graphical applications use 'gksudo' instead of sudo.
[11:55] <a-saint> hello guys I recently knew about gnome-shell extensions how do i install it in ubuntu
[11:55] <raven> hi
[11:55] <raven> do you know any great piano-synth?
[11:55] <shancial> Could someone walk me through installing a kernel module acpi_call? I've made 3 forum posts now and no one has helped.
[11:57] <pksadiq> raven: do you require midi piano or any sound synthesizer?
[11:57] <raven> pksadiq anything for midi-music production
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> raven  try rosegarden
[11:58] <pksadiq> !info rosegarden | raven
[11:58] <raven> MonkeyDust rosegarden is no synth but only a multitrack
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> ok
[11:59] <a-saint> someone .......  I recently knew about gnome-shell extensions how do i install it in ubuntu
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> raven  rather ask in #ubuntustudio
[12:00] <pksadiq> raven: what about vmpk?
[12:01] <raven> pksadiq could be userful tnxx
[12:02] <spectie> hello all
[12:02] <aasasd> hello fellow moronm
[12:02] <spectie> how can i install new themes in ubuntu for gnome
[12:02] <spectie> i installed gnome-themes
[12:03] <LjL> aasasd: that's not nice.
[12:03] <spectie> but the themes don't appear in the "Appearance" panel
[12:03] <spectie> LjL, well, at the moment it is quite accurate :)
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> spectie  you need gnome-tweak-tool
[12:04] <spectie> ok thanks
[12:05] <robinds> all of a sudden my ubuntu has changed language to some East-Asian language, how do I revert back to English?
[12:05] <aasasd> robinds: Try reinstalling it from the CD.
[12:06] <robinds> aasasd: Sure but isn't that like killing a mosqeeto with a sub machine gun?
[12:07] <aasasd> robinds: It's like killing a whale with a harpoon.
[12:07] <robinds> aasasd: ..oh wait, do you mean a complete reeinstall or just the language pack?
[12:07] <aasasd> robinds: Complete.
[12:07] <juho> voisitteko te antaa linkin jostain battlefieldistä mikä toimii upuntulla
[12:07] <robinds> wow - isn't there a more apt sollution?
[12:08] <juho> could you provide a link from a battlefield from what works upuntulla
[12:08] <aasasd> robinds: You could try just doing an upgrade.
[12:08] <Gentoo64> juho, battlefield?
[12:08] <ssta> robinds: system settings...language support
[12:08] <juho> yeah
[12:09] <juho> battlefield
[12:09] <Ben64> robinds: something like this - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[12:09] <Gentoo64> juho, you mean what battlefield game works on uubntu?
[12:09] <robinds> ssta sure, but it's all in mandarin or something completely unfamiliar
[12:09] <aasasd> juho: Try typing "/join 0".
[12:10] <juho> ok
[12:10] <bastidrazor> aasasd: you're just being silly.
[12:11] <robinds> Ben64: I did find that link on my own - it's not helping because everything is in a non roman language - including the language names
[12:11] <robinds> I need to do it through apt
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> " 0: No such channel"
[12:11] <ssta> robinds: try running language-selector from a cli
[12:11] <BenSprz> trying to install ubuntu from live cd it stops at the repartitioning (side by side install) what should i do?
[12:11] <Ben64> robinds: what language is it in
[12:12] <ssta> might not be the right command though
[12:12] <robinds> Ben64: dunno -- I could guess mandarin or cantoneese
[12:12] <Ben64> 英语 = English
[12:13] <robinds> Ben64: Different languages spoken in China
[12:13] <Ben64> in Japanese it is 英語
[12:14] <BenSprz> also, live cd does not find wireless network. any suggestions?
[12:15] <robinds> ssta: what is the command I need to run language-selector?
[12:16] <ssta> robinds: it used to be exactly that...they changed it all with 11.10 though when they added the "control panel" thingy.  I don't know now
[12:16] <Ben64> robinds: just do it in gui, its just a few clicks
[12:17] <nicolas__> nouveau utilisateur ravis !
[12:18] <robinds> Ben64: it would be a few clicks if I could read the foreign language, but I cannot read it. It's like someone took your phone and set the languagae to Martian..
[12:18] <BenSprz> kann mir jemand sagen warum bei installation (sidebyside) von live cd (10.04) sich der rechner immer bei der repartitionierung aufhängt und warum die live cd mein wireless network nicht erkennt? das wäre hilfreich
[12:18] <Ben64> robinds: i just told you what english is in chinese
[12:19] <BenSprz> hab schon versucht den treiber nachzuinstallieren, hat aber nicht geklappt
[12:19] <robinds> ssta my locale shows me LANGUAGE=zh_CN:en_US:en
[12:19] <pksadiq> robinds: try gnome-language-selector or something like that
[12:20] <Myrtti> !de | BenSprz
[12:20] <ssta> robinds: try editing ~/.config/user-dirs.locale to en_GB and log out and back in again
[12:20] <robinds> ssta: and LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE =zh_CN.UTF-8
[12:20] <robinds> ssta: sweet!
[12:20] <BenSprz> ok i posted in english before but to no avail...
[12:20] <ssta> robinds: I don't know if that will work, it's just a guess
[12:24] <^LoGiN^> anybody familiar with orchestra/juju ?
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> getting an error during bootstrap
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> 012-01-29 14:23:56,159 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'orchestra' (type: orchestra)...
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot.
[12:25] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:23:56,184 ERROR Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot.
[12:25] <robinds> ssta: no, but it's on the right track
[12:26] <robinds> what's the name of the login manager used in Oneiric?
[12:26] <ssta> lightdm by default I think
[12:26] <^LoGiN^> LightDM
[12:28] <hyppias> I want to run a ubuntu LAMP server from an SD card in a USB adapter. The machine is an Atom job, without (permanent) CD/CVC drive. What is the best way to get this live Ubuntu server on the (bootable) SD card?
[12:28] <varikonniemi> hello, is there anything like fraps for ubuntu
[12:28] <a-saint> hello guys am having problems installing the gnome shell extensions can someone point me to a solution
[12:29] <auronandace> varikonniemi: it might help to describe what fraps is
[12:29] <Ben64> hyppias: you can install it like normal
[12:29] <hyppias> a-saint: just ask.
[12:29] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, there is recordmydesktop or Istanbul
[12:29] <varikonniemi> auronandace, it is a software that can record a video of the game you are playing
[12:29] <Ben64> hyppias: it will be very very slow though
[12:30] <a-saint> hyppias I am unable to install the gnome shell extensions even that i have the new gnome
[12:30] <varikonniemi> Stereocaulon, istanbul seems not to be working, it has 1 star in software scenter. i must check out recordmydesktop
[12:30] <popey> varikonniemi: try kazam
[12:30] <popey> varikonniemi: most other screencasting tools are no longer under development, kazam is active.. http://launchpad.net/kazam
[12:30] <Stereocaulon> hyppias, install lots of ram so you can load the OS into a ramdisk.
[12:31] <a-saint> hyppias  apt-cache show gnome-shell | grep Version Version: 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 Version: 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1
[12:31] <Stereocaulon> hyppias, into => onto
[12:31] <anachronist> test
[12:32] <hyppias> Stereocaulon: yes, but then how to get it in RAM. Also, my system is meant to be low power. Now it's at 20W or so.
[12:32] <auronandace> !test | anachronist
[12:32] <Lerg> Howdy
[12:32] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, I get good results with Istanbul. I did not record any games though.
[12:32] <a-saint> hyppias when i open the link https://extensions.gnome.org/     I get this error You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information
[12:35] <varikonniemi> popey, thanks! it will test it out
[12:35] <hyppias> a-saint: yes. and?
[12:35] <a-saint> hyppias when i go to http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/   and choose the ubuntu install and it opens in update manager I choose install this is what i get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/821166/
[12:36] <a-saint> hyppias the list is from the details drop menu
[12:37] <ssta> a-saint: why aren't you installing it from the standard repository?
[12:37] <a-saint> ssta as in apt-get install gnome-shell extensions
[12:38] <hyppias> a-saint: yeah. that's the usual way to get stuff
[12:38] <ssta> uggh, who designed that mechanism for getting packages?
[12:39] <ssta> a-saint: yeah, like that
[12:39] <ssta> spawning apt-get from a web browser...that's a REALLY bad idea imo.
[12:40] <a-saint> ssta hyppias do you know if this exactly the command i need to execute
[12:40] <a-saint> or doi google it
[12:41] <ssta> !notunity | a-saint
[12:41] <phw> Is there a way to save colored output into a rtf/html/latex file?
[12:42] <ssta> phw: umm, can you rephrase the question?  All three formats support colour, I'm not sure what you're asking exactly
[12:42] <phw> ssta: output from a commandline tool; i need to convert the colored output into something like rtf;
[12:43] <phw> ssta: of course i can just redirect the output of the application into a file, but then i have a textfile including color codes; yet my applications can obviously not do anything with those
[12:43]  * UD98 is
[12:44] <FlySoftiii> I'm new at Linux. but I think I found a bug. I own an ASUS T101MT, with an touchscreen. If a draw with my pen an Rectangle on the desktop (for marking files) and a second finger touches the screen, the touchscreen simply dosen't work anymore.
[12:44] <UD98> hmm... sounds like a bug to me
[12:44] <stamina> hey ubontu
[12:45] <ssta> phw: phw you want something like ansi2html - I don't know if it's available in the ubuntu repositories or not
[12:46] <ssta> phw: http://search.cpan.org/~autrijus/HTML-FromANSI-1.01/script/ansi2html
[12:46] <dak0> hey
[12:47] <dak0> Anybody here
[12:47] <FlySoftiii> Is my problem a known issue? Or shall I write an bug report?
[12:47] <ssta> FlySoftiii: it's not so much a bog as it is a consequence of the way touchscreens work
[12:48] <dak0>           NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86_64 (290.10)
[12:48] <FlySoftiii> ssta: No, under windows i can user two fingers.
[12:48] <dak0>  
[12:48] <dak0>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[12:48] <dak0>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[12:48] <dak0>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[12:48] <dak0>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[12:48] <dak0>                                        OK
[12:48] <dak0> I`m trying to install lastest driver
[12:48] <FloodBot1> dak0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <FlySoftiii> And the touchscreen simply dosen't work after I used two fingers. Not even one finger. Afert restarting everything is normal
[12:49] <dak0> Hello guys do you know how can i solve my problem ?
[12:49] <ssta> FlySoftiii: hmm, guess it's a bug then
[12:49] <FlySoftiii> ssta: So I should report it?
[12:50] <ssta> FlySoftiii: yeah, probably
[12:50] <Guest82094> hey anyone knows a good video player?
[12:50] <dak0> SM player or VLC
[12:50] <Guest82094> ok ty
[12:50] <hyppias> is there some package to manage a server (LAMP, FTP) remotely via browsers?
[12:50] <ssta> dak0: why not use the nvidia driver available in ubuntu already?
[12:50] <FlySoftiii> ssta: If I have time, I'll do. Thank you... Is there a list with known bugs?
[12:50] <dak0> Beacus its outdated
[12:50] <dak0> 170
[12:51] <dak0> lastest is 290
[12:51] <hyppias> Guest82094: Panasonic ?
[12:51] <ssta> FlySoftiii: not even sure what you'd file a bug against, but see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:51] <csabi_> hello somebody can help me i bought new sound card and i hear my voice in speaker it is echo problem i use ubuntu 11.04 and try setting the alsamixer and where i can setting that not hear my voice  in a speaker?? thanks..
[12:52] <_skpl> is that your best english?
[12:52] <ssta> dak0: if you install from an external source then it's assumed you can fix up whatever breaks.  Otherwise stick to the supported and tested versions in the repositories
[12:53] <dak0> I downloaded the driver from the Nvidia site
[12:53] <pangolin> dak0: the error tells you what to do. log out and then log back in text mode see /msg ubottu !nox and install the driver
[12:53] <ssta> dak0: yes, I know
[12:53] <vandal-> update manager throws "failed to download package files. check your internet connection". My connection is fine, how can i fix it?
[12:53] <dak0> vandal try few times
[12:54] <csabi_> somebody??
[12:54] <dak0> Pangolin thats a bit compilated to me
[12:54] <dak0> :D
[12:54] <vandal-> dak0, i did. id details i can see whole list like this: Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/software-properties/software-properties-gtk_0.81.13.1_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.182 80]
[12:54] <paranoidi> http://pastie.org/3275719 - how should I proceed ?
[12:54] <dak0> This is fresh install of Ubuntu, beacus i had problems with my dual monitor setup with older drivers, and i was forced to reinstall
[12:55] <pangolin> dak0: in that case I suggest you install the nvidia-current package that is available in the software center.
[12:55] <dak0> thats why i dont want to use the supported and outdated version of nvidia
[12:55] <ssta> vandal-: that mirror appears to be broken...I get a 404 as well
[12:55] <vandal-> how can i download from another mirror?
[12:56] <dak0> pangolin what version of nvidia driver do you use ?
[12:56] <ssta> vandal-: in the software centre settings there's a place where you can pick a mirror
[12:56] <pangolin> dak0: nvidia-current from the repositories
[12:56] <oCean> vandal-: ssta the mirror is not broken, the package is updated. Run  sudo apt-get update first
[12:56] <dak0> Number of the driver
[12:56] <dak0> can you please check ?
[12:56] <ssta> it's 173
[12:56] <ssta> which yes, is out of date somewhat
[12:56] <pangolin> dak0: nvidia-current:
[12:56] <pangolin>   Installed: 280.13-0ubuntu6
[12:57] <dak0> but pangolin driver isnt outdated as ours
[12:57] <dak0> its just one version
[12:57] <gaussblurinc> hello! is there any good rss-reader for lxde? ( simple and lightweight )
[12:57] <csabi_> hello somebody can help me i bought new sound card and i hear my voice in speaker it is echo problem i use ubuntu 11.04 and try setting the alsamixer and where i can setting that not hear my voice  in a speaker?? thanks..
[12:58] <a-saint> ssta hyppias I guess it's installed now
[12:58] <vandal-> gaussblurinc, i was using liferea for a while, wasnt bad.
[12:58] <a-saint> ssta hyppias thank you for your help
[12:59] <silversurfer_> i  cant get a webserver indtalled any  ideas
[12:59] <pangolin> !lamp
[12:59] <paranoidi> if I need to reinstall my ubuntu server I will not install ubuntu again, it rotted faster than windows 98
[12:59] <gaussblurinc> vandal-: thank you!
[13:00] <Somelauw> I don't get how evolution works. In my broswer I clicked a link send email. Then I typed my email in evolution and when I clicked send. Evolution just closed?
[13:00] <Somelauw> Is that normal behaviour?
[13:00] <pangolin> no
[13:01] <Hoyt> hi , is there anyone using Precise alpha ?
[13:01] <vandal-> gaussblurinc, tho i went back after a week to reader.google.com :P
[13:01] <oCean> Hoyt: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[13:01] <hyppias> what is "ubuntu desktop USB" during installation?
[13:01] <Hoyt> thansk
[13:01] <Somelauw> If so, then this program *****
[13:01] <silversurfer_> how do i get a webserver in ubuntu?
[13:02] <hyppias> silversurfer: install apache
[13:02] <silversurfer_> k thx
[13:02] <vandal-> silversurfer_, xampp is extremely easy to install and configure already with mysql and phpmyadmin
[13:03] <Somelauw> But does it work that way?
[13:03] <pangolin> Somelauw: no that is not normal behaviour.
[13:03] <auronandace> !xampp | vandal-
[13:04] <Somelauw> I wait this **** program has put my message in one of its outboxes.
[13:04] <pangolin> Somelauw: no need to use *'s to replace swearing. Also no need for swearing.
[13:05] <gaussblurinc> vandal-: i prefer '''software''', not google's applets :)
[13:05] <nnx-t04d> wait u broke my moniter
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> darn
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> wrong channel again
[13:06] <Somelauw> gaussblurinc: I'll never use evince again
[13:06] <nnx-t04d>  oh well i might as well use this oppertunity
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> hi can i fix my moniter on ubuntu
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> my moniters wont werk
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> they are remotely stated around the globe
[13:06] <nnx-t04d>  i lost access to five of them
[13:06] <nnx-t04d> what may cause this??
[13:07] <alexdevillx> Well hello there
[13:07] <oCean> !enter | nnx-t04d
[13:07] <nnx-t04d> yeah u and ur punctuality
[13:07] <alexdevillx> I have a problem with Installing Canon LBP 3010
[13:07] <gaussblurinc> Somelauw: why not? is this so bad for you? ( and so, it's really bad :) )
[13:07] <auronandace> !u | nnx-t04d
[13:07] <nnx-t04d> shove that in the pie hole
[13:07] <alexdevillx> I get a ccp send_data error exit
[13:08] <alexdevillx> Hey!
[13:08] <BuLL_bull> fedora r u here?
[13:08] <LjL> BuLL_bull: doesn't seem so. /whois fedora
[13:09] <Somelauw> gaussblurinc: When I tell my email client to send stuff, I want it to send stuff immediately.
[13:09] <isotta> #LinuxMX-ITA
[13:09] <BuLL_bull> a friend's name...
[13:09] <aasasd> Somelauw: i dont
[13:09] <rref> hi is there a possibility  in ubuntu to say start process A after process A has finished start process B? I'm not sure if A;B will work
[13:09] <LjL> BuLL_bull: yes, i'm saying you can do /whois fedora to find out whether they're connected and in this channel. /query fedora to privately message them.
[13:09] <Somelauw> So what's the idea of not immediately sending stuff? What is the advantage?
[13:10] <LjL> rref: a; b seems correct to me
[13:10] <BuLL_bull> 0_0thank u~
[13:10] <aasasd> Somelauw: you can wait until offpeak time to preserve bandwidth
[13:10] <BuLL_bull> i'll try
[13:10] <rref> LjL: thank you
[13:10] <alexdevillx> Guys i have a problem with installing Canon LBP 3010 on ubuntu. I get this IDLE ccp send_data error, exit error while i'm trying to print something. I followed this manual.http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/107893/
[13:11] <pangolin> Somelauw: Check your email clients settings and see if message are set to be sent immediately.
[13:13] <alexdevillx> Guys i have a problem with installing Canon LBP 3010 on ubuntu. I get this IDLE ccp send_data error, exit error while i'm trying to print something. I followed this manual.http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/107893/
[13:13] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel, thanks
[13:14] <BuLL_bull> 那你说话看看～
[13:14] <auronandace> !es | ilpollo
[13:14] <pangolin> !cn | BuLL_bull
[13:14] <alexdevillx> BuLL_bull, what should i look at? )))
[13:15] <BuLL_bull> = =what happend...
[13:15] <BuLL_bull> ok , i am sorry~
[13:16] <n0x> hi there
[13:16] <Stereocaulon> hi n0x
[13:17] <uween> help
[13:17] <uween>   vh
[13:17] <uween> gdgbvfvzb*
[13:17] <uween> arga
[13:17] <uween> bgrey
[13:17] <FloodBot1> uween: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <uween> AVBA
[13:17] <Stereocaulon> !ask | uween
[13:17] <oCean> uween: stop please
[13:22] <LuvStrawberrys> Hi
[13:22] <LuvStrawberrys> There was created the first ubuntu virus.
[13:23] <jrib> LuvStrawberrys: do you have a support question?
[13:23] <LuvStrawberrys> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4u7ko333U This worm can crash thousands ubuntu computers!
[13:25] <bucaneiro> bye LuvStrawberrys
[13:25] <mongy> ugh
[13:25] <cipherboy> Trolls
[13:26] <KevinLaptop> Alright, I wanted to remove ubuntu from my partitions on my desktop, and the other operating system I have is Windows 7. So from windows 7, I deleted all the ubuntu partitions, and now I'm not quite sure what to do next, it keeps going to grub rescue saying file not found
[13:26] <cipherboy> KevinLaptop: you need to reload Window's bootloader.
[13:26] <KevinLaptop> cipherboy: and how do I do that?
[13:27] <auronandace> KevinLaptop: you need to reinstall windows bootloader, ask in ##windows
[13:27] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, you can reload the Windows boatloader by starting a cmd from the Windows CD. After that, just type fdisk /f to restore the previous boot partition.
[13:28] <dak0> lol, you can get more Windows Help in #ubuntu channel instead of ubuntu help
[13:28] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, you can reload the Windows boatloader by starting a cmd from the Windows CD. After that, just type fdisk /mbr to restore the previous boot partition.
[13:28] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: Alright, awesome, thanks. I'll try that
[13:29] <Scott_292> I have Windows on a partition /dev/sda1, when I installed it I used dd to create a copy of the partition. I want to reset windows to it's original state, are there any risks by using dd to copy from this file back to /dev/sda1? Obviously, I know about data loss, I mean boot up failures, etc.
[13:29] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/720866-how-can-i-restore-the-windows-7-bootloader/
[13:29] <Scott_292> Also is this the correct way to do it: gunzip -c sda1.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda1 bs=512
[13:29] <KevinLaptop> dak0: they just ignored me anyways, windows sucks IMO I just use it for gaming :P installing anotherl linux distro once I can burn the disk from windows xD
[13:30] <dak0> What do you game?
[13:30] <pangolin> !ot
[13:30] <Stereocaulon> dak0, KevinLaptop, afaik Windows does not have a very active IRC channel </understatement> They are probably all on MSN...
[13:30] <auronandace> Scott_292: extract it then: sudo dd if=/path/to/img of=/dev/sda1 bs=512
[13:31] <KevinLaptop> dak0: gta, TF2, games like that :P
[13:31] <auronandace> Scott_292: make sure you are certain you got the right partitiom
[13:31] <dak0> You can game them on Linux with Wine
[13:31] <isotta>  Bot N.31
[13:31] <pangolin> Stereocaulon: ##windows is very active and helpful. if you wish to help with windows issues join that channel please
[13:32] <KevinLaptop> dak0: I never tried it really, because I thought it wouldn't run well with wine, but I'll give it a shot!
[13:32] <Stereocaulon> pangolin, no thanks, I haven't had any issues with Windows since I switched to linux in 1997 :-P
[13:32] <KevinLaptop> lmfao!
[13:32] <dak0> depends on your hardware
[13:32] <pangolin> cool, then lets get back to Ubuntu support and stay on topic.
[13:33] <cipherboy> Scott's question never got answered.
[13:33] <overclucker> Scott_292: that should work
[13:34] <Scott_292> thanks all
[13:34] <overclucker> since dd  is pipe aware
[13:38] <Scott_292> overclucker, yeah the man page says stdin is assumed if 'if' isn't used
[13:40] <cipherboy> Slow channel...
[13:41] <Skew-_^> hi
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> cipherboy, Slow channel?!.. #ubuntu, normally it is so fast I have to open up private channels in order to help someone efficiently.
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> cipherboy, but right now, yes not too many questions right now.
[13:43] <Skew-_^> iam thinking of buying a new laptop, maby a asus zenbook (ultrabook) or a acer ultrabook, i want it to run linux whitout to mutch hassle, and is it only ATI cards i shud look out fore that it dosent have, or what is the best laptop for linux?
[13:43] <fabiano> ?
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, better look out for nVidia cards instead if you want do any 3D.
[13:43] <auronandace> Skew-_^: thinkpads are awesome, try to avoid switchable graphics
[13:44] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, nVida cards is bad for linux? i gotr truble whit my ati card ;S
[13:44] <auronandace> Skew-_^: nvidia cards are better supported
[13:45] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, nVidia cards bad for linux? Where did you get that silly idea?
[13:45] <Kayls> Yeah.
[13:45] <petsounds> Skew-_^: you might want to check out -> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[13:46] <buhman> hrm, interesting; I made changes to my grub.cfg, but when I try to start a VM from /dev/sda, I don't see the changes http://absdev.org/grub-qemu.png
[13:46] <buhman> (the casing of "fallback"/"Fallback")
[13:49] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, wass a question cuz i wrote is it only ATI cards i shud look out for that the computer dosent have and u sayd nVida :P
[13:50] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, I see, well you *did* ask for advice didn't you?
[13:51] <hyppias> during installation, I must specify a partitioning scheme. is that scheme saved somewhere on the destination disk?
[13:51] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, yes ;) and iam gonna turn away from ATI cards ;P only problem whit it, damn have u seen this? ASUS ZENBOOK UX31E RY012V - 13.3"
[13:51] <hyppias> 	 want to use the partitiong scheme in a preseed file
[13:52] <Segaja> hi, how can i tell apt-get in the config, that i don't want to install recommendet packages?
[13:52] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, it looks like pretty precise Macbook pro ripoff...
[13:53] <pangolin> Segaja: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add a line like: APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[13:53] <Skew-_^> sure but its sexy, i think thinkpad looks like it have allways done the last 20years
[13:53] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, When I look up the specs I see Intel Graphics. Well, for 2D graphics those chips are actually really good.
[13:55] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, :) when u talk about 3D graphics you meen like 3D movies and 3D games whit glasses?
[13:55] <Segaja> pangolin: i don't have this file
[13:55] <pangolin> Segaja: create it
[13:55] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, well...Thinkpads tend to be mostly intact when you drop them. I'm not so sure about this one. Your data will probably be safe, because it's an SSD. but the rest...
[13:55] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, no, I talk about any 3D accelaration at all...
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> alright, I try to boot my windows disk now its saying it can't find bootmgr
[13:57] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, The point is, that laptop is not usable for games or 3D modelling, for humble office jobs, this will do fine.
[13:57] <Skew-_^> kk i see i see
[13:57] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, ==> #windows
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> what does that have to do with windows? its GRUB
[13:57] <KevinLaptop> grub is what's telling me this
[13:57] <Skew-_^> iam gonna change out my HP Envy 14-1190eo to somthing that is more Linux friendly
[13:58] <Segaja> pangolin: thanks
[13:58] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: if you are booting with the windows CD you should not be seeing grub at all
[13:58] <pangolin> Segaja: welcome
[13:58] <gartral> hello all, I'm looking for a virtual pet "toy" application, I'm not talking about AMOR, I want somthing a little more along the lines of the old "Petz" program.. anything like that around?
[13:58] <Stereocaulon> pangolin, good point!
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> KevinLaptop  do you get the grub menu?
[13:58] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, i travle alot so i need one that is powerfull and not so heavy
[13:58] <KevinLaptop> pangolin: Yes, that's exactly my point, but grub ISN'T letting it boot from my recovery disk. HP Sent me about 3 disks of windows 7 recovery, and NONE of them work
[13:59] <KevinLaptop> MonkeyDust: no, all I see is the grub rescue thing
[13:59] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: check your BIOS and make sure you have boot from CD set first
[13:59] <KevinLaptop> pangolin: already done that
[13:59] <pangolin> KevinLaptop: further help with windows in ##windows
[13:59] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, you still haven't told us what you need it for. What are your needs for this lappy?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> KevinLaptop  maybe this link is useful http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[14:00] <Stereocaulon> MonkeyDust, it is a bit old, don't know if that would still work with Vista and up.
[14:00] <KevinLaptop> MonkeyDust: thank you, I will try that :-)
[14:00] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: I'll try anything at this point lol
[14:01] <KevinLaptop> omfg, now its saying the same thing when I try to boot ubuntu livecd..
[14:01] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, for more modern games, Wine is actually pretty good.
[14:01] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, hmm, vbox, office, web browsing, movies, music, some games, maby autocad or scetchup
[14:02] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: anything is worth a try, thanks for the info :D
[14:02] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, well first of all, you'll need to tell your BIOS to start from CD *before* looking up a bootloader on your HDD/ SSD
[14:03] <rasterizer_> Hello everyone, for some reason I am not able to connect to smb share using gnome file manager. However i can connect using konqueror?
[14:03] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, if you have (U)EFI instead, the principle is almost the same, but it will look shiny and have mouse support :-P
[14:04] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, Try browsing www.winehq.org/appdb, you may not even need Windows.
[14:04] <KevinLaptop> Stereocaulon: its already set to boot cd first
[14:04] <Stereocaulon> KevinLaptop, in that case you waited to long on the question wheter it should boot from optical/ CD or not.
[14:05] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, i need windows for ipad, and iphone sync/backup :P the itunes true wine is buggy
[14:05] <Scopey> I keep having a problem with installing ubuntu via windows 7, when the installation is nearing completion i get a Windowsbackend eror about the iso path and can't install, also it refuses to let me boot from the usb drive i installed ubuntu on
[14:05] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^, you could start Windows in a VM, you know...
[14:05] <ZynuiMaiche> Hello!  I had a question about Ubuntu and RAM.  My friend told me that it allocates so space on the HDD to give you more RAM than you actually have.  But my Activity Monitor tells me I have what is installed.  Any thoughts?
[14:06] <Skew-_^> Stereocaulon, yes vbox^^
[14:06] <ZynuiMaiche> Specifically, something called "Swap"
, thats is called swap / virtual file system (windows)
[14:06] <Stereocaulon> Skew-_^,  or kvm/ Xen (more performance, but less user friendliness)
[14:07] <ssta> ZynuiMaiche: yes, teh installer by default allocates some swap.  What specifically did you want to know?
[14:07] <artichoku> howdie howdie! how's it hangin'?
[14:07] <ssta> artichoku: to the left
[14:07] <artichoku> lol
[14:07] <Stereocaulon> X-/
[14:07] <artichoku> everyone always says that
[14:07] <artichoku> i gotta change my macro
[14:07] <artichoku> kek
[14:07] <ZynuiMaiche> I guess, how does it work?  I have about 1GB of actual RAM, and Swap says it has 2.8GB.  Does this mean I effectively have 4GB of RAM?
[14:08] <ssta> ZynuiMaiche: no, you have 1G of actual RAM, but if you run out then the kernel can swap some out to dosk.  Generally it swaps out stuff that's not being used much
[14:08] <artichoku> zynuimaiche, have you used windows before? swap is kind of like the virtual memory of windows
[14:08] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, you can look at swap as an emergency storage if you have run of RAM.
[14:08] <rasterizer_> ZynuiMachie, the way sap works it if your os runs out of RAM, it will use the swap space
[14:08] <ssta> swap is *slow* though...you don't want to have to use it if you can help it
[14:09] <Scopey> I keep having a problem with installing ubuntu via windows 7, when the installation is nearing completion i get a Windowsbackend eror about the iso path and can't install, also it refuses to let me boot from the usb drive i installed ubuntu on
[14:09] <Scopey> anyone know how to fix this?
[14:09] <Stereocaulon> ssta, ZynuiMaiche, yes it is painfully slow, but you will always need a small swap partition.
[14:09] <ZynuiMaiche> hmmmm ok very interesting.  So it's kind of like an emergency usage kind of thing?
[14:10] <ahmad> join #ubuntu-ir
[14:10] <artichoku> scopey: what is the exact error
[14:10] <ssta> Scopey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84198/windows-backend-object-has-no-attribute-iso-path-see-log-for-details-err
[14:10] <ssta> Scopey: is that the problem?
[14:10] <Scopey> yeah
[14:10] <rasterizer_> socpey, did you make sure the usb is bootable
[14:10] <Stereocaulon> !swap | ZynuiMaiche
[14:10] <ssta> Stereocaulon: not actually true, but close denough I suppose
[14:10] <ahmad> tank you
[14:11] <Scopey> I just followed the instructions ont he ubuntu site to make it a bootable device, using universal usb installer
[14:11] <artichoku> the good doctor is in
[14:11] <Scopey> after it was done, I tried to install and the error i got was "windowsbackend object has no attribute 'iso_path'"
[14:11] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, yes indeed :-)
[14:11] <artichoku> burn a disk scopey
[14:11] <m60> APTonCD, is there a way to have it include more packages, not just the last downloaded?
[14:11] <dr_willis> at work also.. gotta love cellphones that can irc
[14:11] <Scopey> why can't i do it via usb?
[14:11] <artichoku> if you're installing and not running live
[14:11] <pangolin> Scopey: you need to set your BIOS to boot from USB first
[14:12] <rasterizer_> you can use mobalive CD a qemu emulator to test if you can boot via the usb
[14:12] <Stereocaulon> dr_willis, so what model cell do you use?
[14:12] <ssta> Scopey: that link I posted seems to suggest that you can't use wubi from USB drives
[14:12] <Scopey> pangolin: I have set my bios to boot from removable media first, but it refuses to let me boot from usb
[14:12] <Scopey> furthermore, why would the ubuntu site say you can?
[14:12] <ZynuiMaiche> ok thanks for the info on that everybody!  My other question is how to run a jar file from terminal such that if I close the terminal, the jar executed will remain open.  Is this possible?
[14:13] <artichoku> zynuimaiche java ./file
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, yes, just do this: java <jarfile> &
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> ZynuiMaiche, yes, just do this: java -jar <jarfile> &
[14:13] <artichoku> yeah the -jar
[14:13] <artichoku> mer bad
[14:13] <dr_willis> ZynuiMaiche:  nohup command &    then 'exit' to close the term
[14:13] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, as you've seen I omittted it also at first ;-)
[14:13] <Scopey> i'll try doing it via disc and see if that works
[14:14] <artichoku> i forget it frequently, then it doesn't work, and i remember, lol
[14:14] <dr_willis> ZynuiMaiche:  or start using screen ;)
[14:14] <Stereocaulon> !screen
[14:15] <ssta> byobu is awesomeness
[14:15] <artichoku> !dance
[14:15] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:15] <rasterizer_> for some reason I am not able to connect to smb share using gnome file manager. However i can connect using konqueror. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem.
[14:16] <lahwran> !dance
[14:16] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:16] <artichoku> lol
[14:16] <lahwran> I don't think you're supposed to be doing that, e-anima
[14:16] <lahwran> responding to a bot command, that is
[14:16] <pangolin> !dance
[14:16] <KevinLaptop> how about this, if I reinstall ubuntu will it fix my problems?
[14:16] <e-anima> i do not dance!
[14:16] <e-anima> lol. old joke from a friend
[14:16] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  try cinnecting via ip number not machine name
[14:16] <artichoku> there's no place like 127.0.0.1
[14:16] <e-anima> wait a sec
[14:17] <lahwran> artichoku: please keep socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:17] <artichoku> lol
[14:17] <Stereocaulon> artichoku, such a shame that saying will change after IPV6 has taken over...
[14:17] <e-anima> and thats no bot, that a simple trigger 1 line
[14:18] <pangolin> e-anima: please make sure it is disabled for this channel
[14:18] <artichoku> stereocaulon, ikr?!
[14:18] <e-anima> i removed it
[14:18] <ssta> Stereocaulon: ipv6 has been "taking over any day now" since 1990.  It's still not here.  I've given up waiting for it
[14:18] <pangolin> e-anima: thank you :)
[14:18] <lahwran> !offtopic
[14:18] <artichoku> !guidelines
[14:18] <lahwran> socializing is fine but this is the wrong place
[14:18] <rasterizer_> dr_willis,  as I can connect via knoqueror browser using  server name. I can't understand how that will make any difference
[14:19] <rasterizer_> I will give it a go anyhow
[14:19] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, good point, maybe nautilus is wonky on this.
[14:19] <Stereocaulon> brb
[14:19] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  ive had name fail and ip numbers work
[14:20] <dr_willis> no idea why..
[14:20] <Scopey> ssta: install via cd worked, thanks, i'll be back on a bit with another question lol
[14:20] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, why don't you file a bug with nautilus?
[14:22] <dr_willis> could be some time out differances also
[14:23] <dr_willis> samba and windiws shares seem to get flakier every year
[14:23] <rasterizer_> stereocaulon, dr_willis: it works now
[14:23] <dr_willis> rasterizer_:  ip or name.. or both...
[14:23] <rasterizer_> it was not the ip , but the path or share i was entering was incorrect
[14:23] <dr_willis> typos ;)
[14:24] <rasterizer_> yep
[14:24] <ssta> dr_willis: it's (somewhat) due to the desire to make it seamless and easy for users when it's inherently not as easy as all that...there are multiple barely semi-compatible versions of SMB/CIFS.  Even Windows has trouble deciding how to connect sometimes
[14:24] <dr_willis> I wonder if that d
[14:25] <dr_willis> fuse smb thing works
[14:25] <dr_willis> bbl.
[14:25] <rasterizer_> I have one more question, what is the max data transfer we can get over a smb network share locally and what parameters this will depend on
[14:26] <rasterizer_> I tried to copy about 16 gb over smb it took about 8-10 hours.
[14:26] <ssta> dr_willis: nautilus is using fuse behind the scenes I think.
[14:27] <rasterizer_> ssta, fues if only if the share is a NTFS i think
[14:27] <Stereocaulon> rasterizer_, or another non-native FS, I agree.
[14:27] <Myrtti> rasterizer_: if the data is transferred over TCP/IP, it makes no difference on what kind of filesystem it is...
[14:28] <ssta> rasterizer_: nope.  fuse is "filesystem in userspace", it basically means that the driver for the filesystem isn't running directly inside the kernel space
[14:29] <ssta> rasterizer_: so, for exsample, sshfs is fuse
[14:29] <rasterizer_> Myrtti, I would say fuse would be use locally by the server. And the client will use a Tcp/ip stream
[14:30] <ssta> hmm, nautilus uses gvfs, which (I think) is a different userspace vfs layer to fuse.  Same sort of thing though
[14:31] <Scopey> Hey guys, quick question, how can i get ubuntu/a program to scan a drive and delete all illegal characters in filenames? aka I want to go through a drive and delete all illegal characters (as per windows conventions) in the filenames
[14:31] <ahmad> کسی از ایران ایجا هست؟
[14:31] <ssta> Scopey: define "illegal"?
[14:31] <pangolin> !arabic | ahmad
[14:31] <Scopey> such as "?" """ ":"
[14:32] <ahmad> سلام من توی دانلود اهنگ با فایرفاکس مشکل دارم
[14:32] <ahmad>  به جای این که فایل دانلود بشه یک صفحه دیگه باز میشه که سیاه هستش
[14:32] <ahmad>  بعد توی اون صفحه اهنگ پخش میشه
[14:32] <ahmad>  مشکل از چیست؟
[14:32] <Scopey> i can get a full list of them
[14:32] <FloodBot1> ahmad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <Scopey> ssta: / ? < > \ : * | ” those characters
[14:32] <amine> bonjour a tous pour quoi il mon baned sur ubuntu-fr
[14:33] <pangolin> amine: demande dans #ubuntu-fr-ops
[14:33] <pangolin> amine: on parle anglais seulement ici
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: for foo in $(find /basedirectory); do mv ${foo} $(echo ${foo}|tr -d '?<>:*|"'); done
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: TEST THAT FIRST! :)
[14:34] <ssta> Scopey: I pulled it out of the air, it should be fairly close, but don't run it on files you care about without checking it does what you want
[14:35] <Scopey> ssta: how should i go about testing it/can you walk me through the procedure please
[14:35] <ssta> Scopey: take a copy of the tree you want to run it all on (or part of the tree).  Run it on eht ecopy and check it does what you think it should
[14:36] <amine> je vous demonde avous tous ubuntu et pour tous le monde sa na rien avoire avec la longe moi je soui arabe je je parle 2 longe
[14:36] <oCean> !fr | amine
[14:36] <rasterizer_> ssta, fuse is a native fs utility for ntfs. where as gvfs something specific to gnome which is similar to konqueror's support of diff fs right from the browser. translates in to diff protocols as per service
[14:36] <pangolin> amine: Dans #ubuntu on parle an anglais seulement, ci tu as besoin d;aide en francais /join #ubuntu-fr ou bien #ubuntu-fr-ops
[14:37] <pangolin> dernier evertisement
[14:37] <pangolin> avertisement
[14:37] <ssta> rasterizer_: I really think you're wrong
[14:39] <amine> le probleme il mon baned sur ubuntu-fr et je veu aprndre  a travaille sur ubuntu ce sa que je ne pas compri
[14:39] <Scopey> ssta: I did for foo in $(find /Media/Media/Anime/Bounen no Xamdou); do mv ${foo} $(echo ${foo}|tr -d '?<>:*|"'), and the terminal is still working, how long should it take or did i do something wrong?
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: depends how many files there are there.
[14:40] <Scopey> ssta: there's only 27 files
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: then there's a problem.  The spacxe in the tree name won't help
[14:40] <JackAnansi> Scopey: I'm only half paying attention and I don't know much about it, but the spaces in the directory name might screw things up
[14:40] <jrib> Scopey: that probably wouldn't work right if your filenames have spaces
[14:40] <V-ille> It seems my 11.10 doesn't automount removable media with xfce, any idea why? Thunar has volume management enabled and the config looks right.
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: personally I'd put an echo in front of that "mv" so I can SEE what it's doing before I let it actually do it
[14:40] <ssta> Scopey: if it's only 27 files, why not just fix them by hand?
[14:40] <JackAnansi> Scopey: maybe put the full path in quotes
[14:41] <Scopey> ssta: JackAnansi: I can fix the folder name so there's no space in the folder name
[14:41] <jrib> Scopey: I'd suggest just use the rename command...
[14:41] <ssta> surely wouldn't take more than a minute or two, and you KNOW it's safe
[14:41] <ssta> Scopey: in general, spaces in filenames are *evil*...avoid them wherever possible :)
[14:41] <Scopey> ok could someone give me the code I should try then? sorry to be so helpless with this
[14:42] <ssta> Scopey: seriously, there are only 27?  change them by hand...LOTS safer
[14:42] <Scopey> ssta: this is just a test batch, there's many many more
[14:42] <JackAnansi> ssta: yeah, I hated using the command line in windows. so many directories with spaces in the name...
[14:42] <jrib> Scopey: rename -n 's/charactersIdon'tlike//' files_I_want_to_rename
[14:42] <ssta> Scopey: ah, okay.  Remove the spaces firs then.  There are lots of scripts for doing that (google for "script to remove spaces in filenames")
[14:43] <jrib> Scopey: erm, throw on a g after the two slashes
[14:43] <snimavat> I just installed ubuntu along side windows 7, and now windows 7 won't boot
[14:43] <snimavat> I can see the windows in boot menu, but when i click on it, windows does not boot and after few secs, again i am presented to choose from the ubuntu or windows
[14:43] <Scopey> ssta: i'm a little worried about removing all the spaces when it comes to going back and renaming the files after :S
[14:43] <acicula> snimavat: can you select windows from the boot menu?
[14:44] <snimavat> yes
[14:44] <rasterizer_> snisnimavat, do you get any error message
[14:44] <acicula> and what happens then
[14:44] <snimavat> every time i click on windows, it shows me boot menu again
[14:44] <varikonniemi> i have this program that is started by doing 'glc-capture'
[14:44] <snimavat> No errors - windows does not boot and i m presented boot menu again.
[14:45] <varikonniemi> how can i find what name the program is?
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: define "name"
[14:45] <V-ille> ah, now I see it - thunar doesn't cope with these multimode devices I have
[14:45] <ssta> Scopey: basically this is not a trivial thing...it can cause dataloss.  It's more than possible (in fact, stuff like this is why I love unix), but given that it's hairy, I don't wnt to be the cause of you losing data
[14:45] <varikonniemi> locate glc-capture does not find anything
[14:45] <V-ille> I need an alternative volume manager that works with xfce then
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: you want the location?
[14:45] <varikonniemi> yes
[14:45] <acicula> !grub
[14:45] <jrib> varikonniemi: « which glc-capture »
[14:45] <acicula> !dualboot
[14:45] <acicula> ah thats the one i wanted
[14:45] <varikonniemi> thanks!
[14:46] <snimavat> rasterizer_  i get no errors, it just does not boot, and i m presented the boot menu again
[14:46] <snimavat> rasterizer_ ?
[14:47] <snimavat> I did nothing fancier when installing ubuntu, but still windows won't boot - though its present in boot menu
[14:47] <loxs> how can I invoke ubuntu software center from the command line?
[14:48] <rasterizer_> snimavat, if you have not formatted the windows partition. I would advised us windows boot disk to do a recovery
[14:48] <loxs> what's the name of its executable?
[14:48] <jrib> loxs: software-center -_-
[14:48] <snimavat> rasterizer_ Yes windows partition is not formatted - I can see data from ubuntu file explorer
[14:49] <snimavat> rasterizer_ How do i do recovery ? will ubuntu still work after that ?
[14:49] <yeats> snimavat: you used wubi (windows ubuntu installer) right?
[14:49] <loxs> jrib, it's not
[14:49] <jrib> loxs: it is :/  What version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:49] <loxs> jrib, 11.10
[14:50] <jrib> loxs: software-center
[14:50] <uni4dfx> Where the f**k are printer settings in 11.10??? Everything is gone? Is this a joke?
[14:50] <jrib> loxs: why do you believe it's not?
[14:50] <loxs> hm, it's not installed, strange
[14:50] <snimavat> yeats ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[14:50] <dak0> search in dash
[14:50] <dak0> jrib
[14:50] <DragonSlay> is windows better than linux? One guy said linux has lot of bugs. Personally i feel linux is fast, stable. Since i don't have any sure point to argue with him, i stayed calm.
[14:50] <yeats> loxs: type software-c<TAB> and see what comes up
[14:50] <snimavat> yeats - I dont know if its wubi or what - sorry for tht.. quite new to ubuntu
[14:51] <dak0> Depends what are you doing with the computer, if you are gaming Windows is better. ;)
[14:51] <yeats> snimavat: did you insert the disc and install while Windows was running?
[14:51] <loxs> yeats, after I installed it, it's fine :)
[14:51] <yeats> loxs: ah ;-)
[14:51] <snimavat> yeats - No - i installed it side by side - dual boot - not as a software inside windows
[14:52] <yeats> snimavat: okay - just ruling that out
[14:52] <snimavat> yeats - what has gone wrong ?  what can i do now ?
[14:52] <dak0> Whats your problem ?
[14:53] <rasterizer_> snimavat, it seems that the windows boot loader might. What option did you choose when it ask prompts you to select to install grub(on mbr / the partition)
[14:54] <ankur> helo
[14:54] <yeats> snimavat: see if this thread helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606823
[14:54] <ankur> hello
[14:54] <snimavat> rasterizer_  it did not ask any thing such, just asked for install side by side windows and resize partition thts all
[14:56] <giedz> hi, does anyone know if latest ubuntu-core supports ARM 11 MP ?
[14:57] <Stereocaulon> giedz, I believe not, Debian does though
[14:57] <snimavat> yeats thanks but that looks different, that guy seems to have issue because of two hdd
[14:57] <snimavat> rasterizer_  how do i do recovery using windows CD ?
[14:58] <snimavat> i mean will that keep ubuntu working.. or what ? any steps
[14:58] <rasterizer_> snimavat, try google "how to recover windows 7 after installing ubuntu "
[14:58] <vpelcak_> Hello
[14:59] <drale2k> Do i have to restart the server when i put something newi nto /etc/init.d/ ?
[15:00] <dak0> I don`t thing so.
[15:00] <vpelcak_> I have weird issue. After upgrade to oneiric on 64bit arch I have displayed packages from i386 arch as well (in format pkgname:i386). How to get rid of them?
[15:01] <vpelcak_> any ideas?
[15:01] <rasterizer_> snimavat, that should keep ubuntu working as long as it is not using one of the partitions required by windows7
[15:01] <Skew-_^> Does Ubuntu suport alienware?
[15:02] <ssta> Skew-_^: I don't see why it wouldn't.  It's just a PC...expensive PC, but still just a PC
[15:02] <stephenh> yeah
[15:02] <stephenh> it's just a beefed up dell
[15:02] <snimavat> rasterizer_  ok, i m googling
[15:03] <lucious77> what is missing in ubuntu-core to support ARM 11 MP  if Debian does?
[15:03] <rasterizer_> vpelcak, which install iso did you use?
[15:03] <drale2k> I have my init script for nginx under /etc/init.d/ but when i try to run "sudo /etc/init.d/nginx" it says "sudo: /etc/init.d/nginx: command not found"
[15:04] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: That was upgrade. I don't recall details, but there is some script like do-dist-upgrade or something like that
[15:04] <rkmiec> drale2k: are you sure it has execution bit set?
[15:04] <ablyss> this is awesome http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[15:04] <jrib> drale2k: you shouldn't call those scripts directly anyway but instead use the « service » command
[15:05] <rasterizer_> vpelcak, that right.  was your initial installation was a x86_64 bit base distro and then you did the upgrade
[15:05] <drale2k> jrib: service nginx tells me "nginx: unrecognized service"
[15:05] <V-ille> heh, ok, I solved my automount woes. The other device (n900) was mounting its disk itself because I had an ebook reader open. :) The other device refuses to mount usb mass storage anyway.
[15:06] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: Yes. I also briefly checked repos and didn't found any where was 32bit specified to be used (if it is even possible)
[15:06] <jrib> drale2k: it would be « sudo service nginx start » (or stop, or restart, or whatever).  Did you create this script?  How did this script come to be?
[15:06] <rasterizer_> what kernels do you see when you boot, if you did upgrade it might show different kernel versions
[15:07] <drale2k> jrib: i got it via "wget" and checked the paths, they are correct for me
[15:07] <jrib> drale2k: how did you install nginx?
[15:07] <drale2k> jrib: via "passenger", it installs nginix for Ruby on Rails
[15:07] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: Linux triarius 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:07] <jrib> drale2k: why aren't you using APT?
[15:08] <vpelcak_> I've installed latest kernel, but didn't reboot to it, yet.
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: because this does the config for rails and ruby automatically :(
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: and everything works only the service not
[15:08] <drale2k> jrib: i can start nginx by calling /opt/nginx/sbin/nginix
[15:08] <jrib> drale2k: use apt, it will have a proper working init script
[15:09] <vpelcak_> Perhaps it is synaptic bug
[15:09] <vpelcak_> I don't see this in aptitude
[15:09] <jrib> drale2k: remove your current nginx install and your existing /etc/init.d/nginx script first
[15:09] <LukeNukem> i think like dr_willis told me, i broke unity
[15:09] <LukeNukem> i cant see close, minimise buttons on terminal
[15:09] <dak0> I broke once unity
[15:09] <LukeNukem> and minimized applications
[15:09] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, good for you, now you can finally switch to a sensible DE
[15:10] <LukeNukem> i cant see panel on them either.
[15:10] <dak0> everytime i click at dash or anything on unity auto logout
[15:10] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, like?
[15:10] <dak0> The only way to solve this problem
[15:10] <dak0> is ......
[15:10] <dak0> reinstall :)
[15:10] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, XFCE, LXDE, OPenbox, Fluxbox, take a pick...
[15:10] <LukeNukem> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[15:10] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, Gnome?
[15:10] <dak0> or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop
[15:10] <dak0> and switch to kde
[15:10] <dak0>  ;)
[15:10] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, don't make me laugh...
[15:11] <LukeNukem> oh, i remember..
[15:11] <LukeNukem> Unity is the shell
[15:11] <LukeNukem> so XFCE must be shell
[15:11] <LukeNukem> but ive seen some stuff on google like XFCE vs Gnome, so i thought it would be something like GNOME
[15:11] <LukeNukem> dak0, but isn't that another OS
[15:11] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, actually Unity is an extension of Gnome3 and XFCE can be seen as a Gnome-Light and LXDE even more.
[15:12] <analyser> hi. i've a notebook with two graphic cards, a intel and a nvidia, I'm having a hard time to set them up. I would like to know if is it possible to disable the intel card, and just use the nvidia one?
[15:12] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, how would i install XFCE, or anything better? something that looks good ;)
[15:12] <vpelcak_> rasterizer_: It looks like problem iin package management itself, not in kernel level. aptitude displays packages twice, synaptic adds i386 indicator
[15:12] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, just install the xubuntu-desktop package.
[15:12] <EagleScreen> I like Unity more each day
[15:13] <OerHeks> analyser, you have an Optimus ?
[15:13] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, how big is it
[15:13] <analyser> OerHeks: yes, but it's not working properly.
[15:13] <dak0> Just do it 100-200mb's
[15:13] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, depends on how many libraries you have already loaded, most of is actually shared with Gnome
[15:13] <OerHeks> analyser, check bumblebee > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and the #Bumblebee channel
[15:13] <dak0> lukenukem
[15:13] <snimavat> btw how do i start shell in ubuntu 11 ?
[15:13] <mongy> LukeNukem,  if you want to save some bandwidth use the --no-install-recommends option
[15:14] <snimavat> where are all the menus gone ?
[15:14] <snimavat> Where's terminal ?
[15:14] <dak0> ctrl+alt+t
[15:14] <OerHeks> snimavat, ctrl + alt + T
[15:14] <Colin969>  Is there a way to pull a proxy over specific mac addresses via my router? E.G Block select sites to a single computer. #networking seems to be dead
[15:14] <analyser> OerHeks: I'll check that again, although, I'd rather prefer just disable the intel card and use nvidia all the time, if this were possible, ofcourse.
[15:14] <snimavat> thnx
[15:15] <dak0> anybody playing PokerTH?
[15:15] <OerHeks> analyser, i think it is possible, with the switcher... but i do not own a Optimus, just interested.
[15:15] <mongy> snimavat, hit windows key or click the dash icon top left, start typing terminal.
[15:15] <maxagaz> hi
[15:15] <sjihs> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu-mono fonts on natty?
[15:16] <dak0> :-&
[15:16] <LukeNukem> mongy, what difference does it make o.o
[15:16] <analyser> OerHeks: I'll give this a last shot, and then I come back to tell my results
[15:16] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, isn't xubuntu, lubuntu etc another operating system, i would be changing my OS then
[15:17] <acicula> analyser, the nvidia card will drain your battery a lot quicker, so permanently disabling the intel igp may not be what you want
[15:17] <maxagaz> I have just succesfully installed ubuntu on a samsung np-nc10, but when I rebooted it, I get a black screen with blinking cursor, what does it mean ?
[15:17] <mongy> LukeNukem, will miss out applications that come with default desktop install, so if you already have gedit installed for instance, it wont download leafpad, the xfce text editor..  etc
[15:17] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, no they are not, it's all Ubuntu, just with another Desktop Environment
[15:18] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, they are called meta-packages, actually a set of packages.
[15:18] <Stereocaulon> !metapackage
[15:19] <LukeNukem> Stereocaulon, cant i just install XFCE
[15:20] <analyser> acicula: that's true, however as I work always with the computer plugged into the wall it's not a big deal.
[15:20] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, but the Xubuntu package takes care of a smooth transition. You can always choose another DE from the startup menu
[15:21] <dak0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1917087
[15:21] <drale2k> jrib, rkmiec: rkmiec was right about the execution, "chmod +x" has done it
[15:21] <LukeNukem_> Stereocaulon, ok so whats the best DE to install
[15:21] <drale2k> thanks
[15:22] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, that's up to you to decide. XFCE looks the most like Gnome2 minus the top bar.
[15:22]  * dsf4r4 waves hi
[15:23] <dak0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1917087
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> Stereocaulon, what about GNOME 3
[15:23] <LukeNukem_> http://lifehacker.com/5853099/linux-desktop-faceoff-gnome-3-vs-ubuntu-unity
[15:24] <LjL> dak0: is your question how to install PokerTH? why not just "sudo apt-get install pokerth"?
[15:25] <mongy> LukeNukem, you can install and remove them at your leisure.  or why not just try them in a vmeware/virtualbox vm
[15:25] <mongy> wmare*
[15:25] <mongy> arg, nevermind.
[15:25] <Stereocaulon> LukeNukem, I don't like it, but you can decide for yourself. I chose LXDE, because I want my desktop to be lean and mean, but usable nonetheless.
[15:25] <dak0> LjL does that download lastest version ?
[15:26] <LjL> dak0: no, it downloads the version provided with your Ubuntu release. is there a reason why you need to use the latest version?
[15:26] <dak0> Yes, to play online
[15:26] <Stereocaulon> dak0, sure it does, the latest version included in the software sources you have selected.
[15:26] <LukeNukem_> Stereocaulon, ok the article says just go to ubuntu center and install Gnone 3
[15:27] <basil_kurian_> I have problem with authenticating  LDAP user in apache on group basis. Please see this configuration
[15:27] <basil_kurian_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/821277/
[15:27] <basil_kurian_> This is the error that I'm getting on error_log
[15:27] <basil_kurian_> [error] [client 192.168.122.1] access to / failed, reason: require directives present and no Authoritative handler
[15:27] <basil_kurian_>  I 'm able to authenticate users on user basis.but on group basis it is not working
[15:27] <FloodBot1> basil_kurian_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <basil_kurian_> This is the error that I 'm getting on ldap server (running on debug mode) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/821299/
[15:27] <dak0> once i installed from ubuntu software center, and that wasnt lastest...
[15:28] <LjL> dak0: open a shell and run the .run file, with or without sudo (i don't know where it tries to install, try without first).
[15:28] <shaneo> hey guys im getting alot of 404 errors today when running apt anyone else?
[15:28] <LjL> shaneo: pastebin the output
[15:28] <Stereocaulon> shaneo, choose another mirror then
[15:28] <shaneo> ok
[15:29] <basil_kurian_> please look into my issue
[15:29] <io_mp>  /EXEC rm -vf /tmp/budus_XDCC__home_io_5207.quer
[15:29] <shaneo> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821357/
[15:29] <shaneo> LjL: nice to see you again by the way :)
[15:31] <adamrb> I've somehow ended up with three bootloaders after installing 11.10...anyone have any tips for sorting out the mess (other than wiping and reinstalling)?
[15:31] <LjL> shaneo: ugh, what a mix and match of repositories
[15:31] <shaneo> is there a way to wipe and start clean
[15:32] <adamrb> when I first start up, I get the grub2 bootloader from 9.04, then if I select my Windows entry, I get a Windows bootloader giving me a choice of Windows (recovered) or Ubuntu, and if I choose Ubuntu, I get the new 11.04 bootloader.
[15:32] <LjL> shaneo: paste your current /etc/apt/sources.list (but those -5 errors will not simply be solved by removing repositories, need to investigate)
[15:32] <shaneo> LjL: ok 1 sec
[15:33] <adamrb> * new 11.10 bootloader
[15:33] <LjL> shaneo: also, what happens if you try "host downloads.virtualbox.org"?
[15:34] <LjL> shaneo: sorry, i mean "host download.virtualbox.org"
[15:34] <shaneo> LjL: download.virtualbox.org is an alias for dlc.sun.com.
[15:34] <shaneo> dlc.sun.com has address 137.254.16.69
[15:35] <shaneo> LjL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/821359/
[15:35] <LjL> shaneo: ok, so it's a problem with apt only
[15:35] <luna> !list
[15:35] <LjL> shaneo: are you connecting through a router?
[15:35] <gartral> hello all, I'm looking for a virtual pet "toy" application, I'm not talking about AMOR, I want somthing a little more along the lines of the old "Petz" program.. anything like that around?
[15:35] <luna> ciao
[15:35] <luna> !list
[15:35] <shaneo> LjL: i switched sources server from US to Main and now only get 4 errors
[15:35] <shaneo> yes
[15:36] <LjL> shaneo: what errors are those now, just 404's, or also still some -5's?
[15:36] <cococolo> hiž
[15:36] <shaneo> LjL: one -5 and 3 404's
[15:37] <shaneo> the -5 is for playonlinux
[15:37] <shaneo> LjL: sorry 2 404's and a 401
[15:38] <LjL> shaneo: well the 404's are just old repositories i believe. the -5, i suspect it's your router not being very good at resolving DNS. you could switch to a separate DNS server in NetworkManager (Google has free ones, for example), or you could just remove some of the useless non-Oneiric repositories and see if it gets better. going to give you an updated sources.list
[15:39] <nahuel__> hi, please thespanish chanel , thanks
[15:39] <acicula> !es
[15:40] <shaneo> LjL: how do i add the DNS from google
[15:40] <LjL> shaneo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821367/ <- not too many changes here, as some of your (broken) repositories are also stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, so you might want to remove some of those too
[15:41] <theadmin> shaneo: Just a list with all the official repos: https://pzt.me/4jqj
[15:42] <LjL> shaneo: well i run KDE so i'm not sure NetworkManager is exactly the same as for you, but, click on the network icon at the top right, and in your connection, set "Automatic (DHCP) Addresses Only", and in the DNS field, put 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[15:42] <mapo> !list
[15:44] <shaneo> LjL: ok im gonna try apt after setting the DNS well see what happens
[15:44] <shaneo> theadmin: thanks
[15:45] <basil_kurian_> Someone please look into my issue
[15:46] <shaneo> LjL: two 404s and a 401 im just gonna remove those ones
[15:47] <Guest63004> Hey guys, I really need some help
[15:47] <Guest63004> Every time I try to download something, my 'Ubuntu Software Manager' won't start up
[15:47] <Guest63004> Even when I click on it, it won't start up
[15:47] <Diamondcite> How does it not start up?
[15:48] <Guest63004> I just click, and nothing happens
[15:48] <Guest63004> :/
[15:48] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Ive got a user 'firebird' created by the firebird RDBMS. This user owns a certain file that I need to move (a dtabase). How can I do this? TIA!
[15:49] <Guest63004> I tried re-installing, it worked, but i closed it and, now i can't open it again :/
[15:49] <Guest63004> Can anyone help me?
[15:49] <Diamondcite> Guest63004: Normally I would say try to run it from the command line to see what type of error message shows up.
[15:49] <Guest63004> Sorry if the answer is obvious :/
[15:49] <Guest63004> Okay, :) how would i do that :)
[15:50] <shaneo> Guest63004: you need to remove the cache in software center i had the same problem for a long time and that was the fix i found
[15:50] <Guest63004> I just changed from Windows so i know little :P
[15:50] <Diamondcite> I have no idea what the commandline for the software center is... (ubuntu isn't running at the moment)
[15:50] <Guest63004> Let me write thhis down :) Thank you all
[15:50] <shaneo> Guest63004: also congrats on your switch
[15:50] <Guest63004> Thanks, it definitely looks cooler
[15:50] <tomKat> hey, is this the chanell where thee ubuntu dev week sessions will be held?
[15:51] <pangolin> tomKat: in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:51] <tomKat> Alright Thanks!
[15:51] <Guest63004> Okay, so how do I delete the cache?
[15:51] <adamrb> this is my boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821378/ in case anyone has any ideas on how to fix it
[15:51] <Diamondcite> Guest63004: try to open a 'terminal'
[15:51] <Diamondcite> and then running 'software-center' no quotes.
[15:51] <mellin> Might I add Guest63004 if you highlight the text you need to copy and double click it will copy to clipboard. Then open a blank file and paste...You can also enable logging if you are using xchat and it will save it all
[15:52] <pangolin> tomKat: you will also want to join #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[15:52] <Guest63004> thanks :) And yep, terminal works
[15:52] <tomKat> I'll check that out too pangolin
[15:52] <antoniol_> Hey! Who knows how to run "confity" to confiig Unity. When I click on confity.py and press Run nothing happens
[15:52] <bapsx> why if I do "service networking stop" then start it back up again my internet connection doesn't come back up until I reboot?
[15:52] <zgr> why native client isn't shipped in ubuntu with chromium?
[15:53] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, right-click, go to properties, and make sure it has run permissions
[15:53] <Guest63004> Okay, so i've opened the terminal, :) Can i delete the cache using it?
 yes, it has
[15:53] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, what happens if you choose run in terminal^
[15:53] <mellin> Guest63004: You can do ANYTHING from the command line if you know how :-)
[15:53] <Barbariandude> *?
[15:54] <Guest63004> Haha :D
[15:54] <Guest63004> In time i suppose
[15:54] <Diamondcite> Guest63004: I am not sure where to delete the cache, but if you tried typing in: software-center     does it still break? If so what was shown in the terminal?
[15:54] <Guest63004> Okay one sec
[15:54] <mellin> Certainly...
[15:54] <Barbariandude> Guest63004, this isn't MS dos, the terminal in unix-based machines are crazy-powerful
[15:54] <Guest63004> Haha
[15:54] <Guest63004> Right one sec
[15:55] <mellin> Diamondcite: Where is the default cache created for software-center?
[15:55] <khameis> #linuxac
Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:55] <antoniol_>   File "/home/antoniol/Загрузки/confity_1.7/confity.py", line 379, in <module>
[15:55] <antoniol_>     Confity(chosenUI, gclient)
[15:55] <antoniol_>   File "/home/antoniol/Загрузки/confity_1.7/confity.py", line 33, in __init__
[15:55] <antoniol_>     self.interface.add_from_file(interf)
[15:55] <FloodBot1> antoniol_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <antoniol_> glib.GError: Не удалось открыть файл «confity1.glade»: Нет такого файла или каталога
[15:55] <mellin> What does ps -ax software-center show? If there is already an instance running it may not start...I assume this is the issue...
[15:55] <Diamondcite> mellin: I cannot answer your question as I do not know the location of the software center cache.
[15:56] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, use pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com, the bot interprets that as spam (and it kinda is)
[15:56] <Diamondcite> ....
[15:56] <basil_kurian_> anyone have any clues about my issue ??
[15:57] <antoniol_> (confity.py:5857): Gtk-WARNING **: Загружаемый модуль тем не найден в module_path: «pixmap»,
[15:57] <antoniol_> (confity.py:5857): Gtk-WARNING **: Загружаемый модуль тем не найден в module_path: «pixmap»,
[15:57] <antoniol_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:57] <antoniol_>   File "/home/antoniol/Загрузки/confity_1.7/confity.py", line 379, in <module>
[15:57] <antoniol_>     Confity(chosenUI, gclient)
[15:57] <FloodBot1> antoniol_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, Use pastebin.com. Don't dump that in the channel
[15:58] <newbie|2> Hey
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/821383/
[15:58] <newbie|2> Sorry, i'm back now
[15:58] <newbie|2> this was the guy talking about software manager
[15:58] <newbie|2> :)
[15:58] <newbie|2> Okay, i typed in 'Software-center'
[15:58] <newbie|2> and it said
[15:58] <newbie|2> one sec
[15:58] <shaneo> LjL: all is good now thanks for helping again
[15:58] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, ermmm... don't know russian, sorry (I think that's russian, don't hate me if I'm wrong :P)
[15:58] <newbie|2> it said quite a bit
[15:58] <newbie|2> :)
[15:58] <Diamondcite> newbie|2: DON"T PASTE!!!
[15:59] <Barbariandude> lol
[15:59] <pangolin> !enter | newbie|2
[15:59] <Diamondcite> newbie|2: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
 last phrase: there is no such file or directory
[15:59] <newbie|2> xD I know, i did aminute ago and well, yeah :)
[15:59] <pangolin> antoniol_: cd to the directory where you extracted the file
[16:00] <pangolin> hmm, never mind, you did
[16:00] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, can you open the script up in a terminal and pastebin it for me?
[16:00] <Barbariandude> sorry, in a text editor I meant
 I have don it. but it says "command confity.py not fount"
[16:01] <newbie|2> Ergh
[16:02] <mellin> clear
[16:02] <nimbiotics> Ive got a user called 'firebird' created by the firebird RDBMS. This user owns a certain file that I need to move (a database). How can I do this? TIA!
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/821396/
[16:02] <Barbariandude> nimbiotics, you can change the owner with the command "chown <username>"
[16:02] <Mixxit> hello!
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/confity/
[16:03] <danny_> if i want to have two ubuntu partitions, do i have to create another swap space? or will they use the same one?
[16:03] <Stereocaulon> hi Mixxit
[16:03] <luk> hi i cant join the gnome gaiming zone with the chess game on my ubuntu it says time out what can be the problem?
[16:03] <Mixxit> i just installed ubuntu =)
[16:03] <mongy> danny_, they can share it.
[16:03] <Barbariandude> Mixxit, congrats :D
[16:03] <Stereocaulon> Mixxit, good for you!
[16:03] <Mixxit> thanks it looks really nice!
[16:03] <pangolin> danny_: when you install use the advanced setup at the pertioning step and tell it to use the existing /swap
[16:03] <dr_willis> danny_:  if you dint use hibernate or suspend they can share
[16:03] <Mixxit> i have some usability questions, wondered if you could help me out =)
[16:04] <danny_> mongy - thnx mate. gonna try out the kubuntu. took me 3 years to have a look at K. :)
[16:04] <Stereocaulon> Mixxit, of course, shoot!
[16:04] <Mixxit> i prefer chrome to firefox but can't seem to make the launcher thingy go all the way to the top in place of firefox
[16:04] <newbie|2> almost done :)
[16:05] <Stereocaulon> Mixxit, you can select another browser in the preferences.
[16:05] <danny_> dr_willis : aha, so before changing to the other partition i should properly shut down the first one?
[16:05] <Barbariandude> Mixxit, hold down leftclick on chrome, wait until it comes off the launcher, then drag it where you want
[16:05] <Mixxit> ahh hold it down!
[16:05] <Mixxit> yay! worked :-D
[16:05] <dr_willis> and chant the ubuntu theme song
[16:05] <Mixxit> ok i also play minecraft and to launch it i need to use a shell script but when i double click on .sh files it opens up a text editor
[16:06] <Barbariandude> Mixxit, rightclick on the file, go to properties, and click the checkbox giving it run permissions
[16:07] <Mixxit> seems to be doing something!
[16:07] <nimbiotics> Barbariandude: I didnt want to change ownership. I used this command line: sudo -U firebird -l cp data/tipsman.fdb tipsman/data/tipsman.fdb
[16:07] <luk> Hey why cant i join the ggzgaming zone in the Chess game on ubuntu
[16:07] <ismat> my ubuntu cant restart and shutdown...how to solve it?
[16:07] <Barbariandude> ismat, that's a bit vague, you're going to have to be more descriptive
[16:08] <Barbariandude> nimbiotics, not familiar with firebird, sorry :(
[16:08] <newbie|2> AHA - IT says this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/821409/plain/
[16:08] <ismat> can u help me
[16:08] <newbie|2> WOOOO
[16:08] <Stereocaulon> ismat, we maybe able to help you *if* you are a bit more descriptive.
[16:09] <newbie|2> So :) What to do now?
[16:09] <metasansana> ismat: did you try sudo shutdown -r 0 ??
[16:10] <ismat> yes
[16:10] <ismat> but it hang
[16:10] <theadmin> ismat: How does it hang? Do you get a black screen?
[16:10] <ismat> yes
[16:10] <ismat> black screen only
[16:10] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, looks like you've got a broken source. Open up software sources in the dash
[16:10] <theadmin> ismat: I recently had a similar problem. Try adding this to your kernel line: reboot=bios
[16:11] <newbie|2> Right, okay :)  done :)
[16:11] <nimbiotics> Barbariandude: that didnt do the trick anyways. I did not report an error at all; it just did not copy the file as expected
[16:11] <Mixxit> thanks!
[16:11] <Mixxit> thats worked just great
[16:12] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, any weird sources there that don't look like the others?
[16:12] <ismat> thanks
[16:12] <ismat> i will try it
[16:12] <Mixxit> is there a default shell i should be using with ubuntu?
[16:12] <Mixxit> i tried searching for console and shell in the Dash
[16:12] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Hmm, It says - downloadable from the internet
[16:12] <Mixxit> but nothing came up
[16:12] <LjL> Mixxit: try searching for terminal
[16:12] <nachete85> Hello!
[16:12] <Stereocaulon> Mixxit, that 's the beauty of Linux, you can just *choose* what shell you prefer :-)
[16:12] <Mixxit> aha!
[16:12] <Barbariandude> Mixxit, like with absolutely everything linux, it's mostly personal preference. I like xterm.
[16:13] <nachete85> I have a isuue
[16:13] <Mixxit> yay a terminal!
[16:13] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Okay, well in all fairness, i don't really understand what you mean :P sorry
[16:13] <nimbiotics> Barbariandude: that didnt do the trick anyways. I did not report an error at all; it just did not copy the file as expected
[16:14] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, what do you have under "other software"?
[16:14] <nachete85> After install first Windows7 and after Ubuntu 11.10, I cant access to W7 from grub, any idea?
[16:14] <nimbiotics> Please help; Hello all. Ive got a user 'firebird' created by the firebird RDBMS. This user owns a certain file that I need to move (a dtabase). How can I do this? TIA!
[16:14] <rebe> best linux alternative for truecrypt is ?
[16:14] <Barbariandude> nachete85, have you tried "sudo update-grub"?
[16:15] <Barbariandude> rebe, try alternativeto.net
[16:15] <theadmin> rebe: Truecrypt has a Linux version.
[16:15] <nachete85> No, I didnt
[16:15] <Mixxit> ok this one might not be possible but i hear some people do this quite well i've never had much success with other distros
[16:15] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Canonical Partners - Unchecked / Canonical partners (source code) - unchecked / Independent - checked / independent (source code) - checked
[16:15] <Mixxit> i love Homeworld for windows and would like to play it if possible
[16:15] <Mixxit> what's the correct modern way of doing that?
[16:15] <nachete85> I'll try and I'll come back! Thanks
[16:15] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, so nothing out of the defaults... hmmm, that is strange
[16:15] <pangolin> !appdb | Mixxit
[16:16] <Mixxit> thank you!
[16:16] <acicula> rebe: depends on what you need, the default encrypted home directory is pretty good
[16:16] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: I take it, that's not good :/ Is there a way of 'deleting the cache' someone said it earlier on
[16:17] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, can you type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal, then pastebin the contents?
 what about confity?
[16:17] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Sure
[16:17] <malex_> hi everybody!
 Hi!
[16:17] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, I really don't know, sorry :( maybe try #unity and see if anyone there knows
 ok! thanks!
[16:18] <Barbariandude> antoniol_, it's invite-only, nvm :(
[16:18] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: It just opened a document - il paste that if you want :)
[16:18] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, that's exactly what I wanted :)
[16:19] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, gedit = notepad for linux, basically
[16:19] <newbie|2> ahh okay :)
[16:19] <newbie|2> Ooh, is this like a pm?
[16:20] <Barbariandude> pm?
[16:20] <newbie|2> nvm :D
[16:20] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821423/plain/
[16:20] <Mixxit> ok thanks again going to restart for ati drivers
[16:20] <Mixxit> take care all!
[16:20] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, found your problem, the tor PPA is messed up
[16:21] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Ahh, okay, :) do you know how to fix it?
[16:21] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, type in a terminal "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", go to the last line, and delete the weird malformed characters at the beginning and end of the line, then save
[16:21] <dlentz> Barbariandude, should be gksu gedit ;)
[16:22] <malexio> hey guys, which irc client do u suggest ?
[16:22] <orvar> when I try to setup automated backup with ssh and press "Back up now" I get this error: http://img.chabo.se/i/d5155ca5-7211-9869_backup-error.png
[16:22] <orvar> how do I debug?
[16:22] <LjL> !poll | malexio
[16:22] <dlentz> malexio, use different ones and use the one you like
[16:22] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, my bad, replace sudo with gksu, dlentz is right
[16:22] <malexio> ahahah
[16:22] <malexio> nice answer  :)
[16:23] <malexio> i already know, of course... :P
[16:23] <dlentz> i'm using xchat if you care
[16:23] <Barbariandude> malexio, my personal favourite is xchat. But it's a personal thing
[16:23] <malexio> i was just asking..
[16:23] <dlentz> it's cool
[16:23] <malexio> mmm cool..
[16:23] <orvar> anyone?
[16:23] <malexio> i was not sure of xchat cuse i'm on gnome shell
[16:23] <malexio> so far i'm on smuxi ..
[16:24] <pangolin> dlentz: Barbariandude best to use gksudo gedit actually
[16:24]  * CyberDawg hugs his Xchat
[16:24] <Hugo2607> lol
[16:24] <malexio> ahhahaha
[16:24] <ringooo> ciao
[16:24] <ringooo> !list
[16:24] <pangolin> malexio: join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting, we like to keep this channel for support only
[16:24] <Barbariandude> Learning by getting corrected :D That's why helping on ubuntu irc is awesome.
[16:24] <dlentz> pangolin, what's the exact difference again?
[16:24] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: So, a gedit file came up, the last line is - deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org experimental-lucid main
[16:24] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, before or after you fixed it? If after, that's correct
[16:25] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: YES! OMG YES IT'S RUNNING
[16:25] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: I FUCKING LOVE YOU
[16:25] <pangolin> dlentz: some automagic about how it handles the file or something. just know that is the recommended way
[16:25] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, :)
[16:25] <LjL> !language | newbie|2
[16:25] <malexio> yep sry
[16:25] <Barbariandude> lol
[16:25] <dlentz> pangolin, i'm all for automagic
[16:25] <pangolin> newbie|2: i am glad you fixed your issue, no swearing please.
[16:25] <dlentz> thanks
[16:25] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Okay, you get the idea xD
[16:25] <newbie|2> pangolin: Sure man, sorry :D
[16:26] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Thanks so much! Loving the world right now
[16:26] <orvar> http://img.chabo.se/i/d5155ca5-7211-9869_backup-error.png why?
[16:26] <Barbariandude> newbie|2, you're very welcome. When you eventually become a commandline guru, come back and help other peeps :D
[16:26] <newbie|2> Barbariandude: Will do :D
[16:27] <ilpollo> sorry, the spanich chanel please ?
[16:27] <pangolin> ilpollo: #ubuntu-es
[16:27] <ilpollo> thanks
[16:27] <zgr> someone got NaCl working in 64bit Chromium?
[16:27] <pangolin> welcome
[16:28] <Pro|> couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[16:28] <Barbariandude> zgr, Was trying to help someone get that working a week or 2 ago, it went badly :(
[16:28] <nimbiotics> Please help; Ive got a user 'firebird' created by the firebird RDBMS. This user owns a certain file that I need to move (a dtabase). I tried "" sudo -u firebird -l cp ~/Documents/projects/data/tipsman.fdb ~/Documents/projects/tipsman/data/tipsman.fdb"" But it just doesnt do anything, not even an error message. How can I do this? TIA!
[16:28] <Pro|> how do i install java
[16:28] <Pro|> it is saying couldnt find package sun-java6-bin
[16:28] <pangolin> !java | Pro|
[16:29] <zgr> Barbariandude: as understand it ships without NaCl in Ubuntu, and even chromium stable channel ppa doesn't have NaCl
[16:29] <nimbiotics> oops, wrong channel.sry
[16:31] <n0wje> I have a Dell M5030 laptop running ubuntu 11.10 when i plug in a external usb mouse it moves slower than my touchpad any idea's
[16:31] <wdonkey> hello ! i want information on how i can "hide" my real ip adress by connecting to a VPN Server.
[16:32] <n0wje> I did lsinput and it identified the touchpad as alps
[16:32] <Barbariandude> n0wje, Type in "mouse" in the dash, open up the settings, and change the pointer speed. Is that what you're talking about?
[16:33] <n0wje> no tried that it moves slow compared to the touch pad
[16:33] <k4r1m> anyone has an idea on how to get cardapio working? or is it unsupported after 11.04? I'm on 12.04 and for some reason I keep getting a 404 when adding the ppa repo..
[16:34] <Barbariandude> n0wje, as in laggy, or movement speed?
[16:34] <n0wje> yes
[16:34] <Barbariandude> .....
[16:35] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. Ive got a user 'firebird' created by the firebird RDBMS. This user owns a certain file that I need to move (a dtabase). I tried "" sudo -u firebird -l cp ~/Documents/projects/data/tipsman.fdb ~/Documents/projects/tipsman/data/tipsman.fdb"" But it just doesnt do anything, not even an error message. How can I do this? TIA!
[16:35] <luk> Hi
[16:35] <yarak> hey 󠁟
[16:36] <luk> can you join ggz gaming zone?
[16:36] <luk> becouse i cant in the ubuntu chess game
[16:36] <yarak> what 󠁟?
[16:36] <rlmccormick> Hi All, i'm looking for a way to block a specific application from accessing the internet. Is there an easy way to accomplish that?
[16:36] <yarak> ?󠁟
[16:36] <Pro|> is there any way stop ubuntu closing my laptop when i take charger off
[16:37] <iceroot> Pro|: ubuntu is closing your laptop?
[16:37] <Pro|> yes?
[16:37] <iceroot> Pro|: not possible, what do you really mean
[16:37] <rlmccormick> did ubuntu grow hands and arms?
[16:37] <Pro|> i take charger off and myc omputer goes in resting mode
[16:38] <Pro|> and then ihave to write my password etc agian
[16:38] <CAPITALISMUS> inagibe an OS were you really need to type stuff
[16:38] <CAPITALISMUS> imagine
[16:38] <yarak> CAPITALISMUS: bist du deutscher? 󠁟
[16:38] <CAPITALISMUS> nah
[16:39] <yarak> oic 󠁟
[16:39] <CAPITALISMUS> ich been ein berliner
[16:39] <yarak> oic
[16:39] <yarak> * [ptr]xyz (~krauss@mklgate2.mkl.uni-karlsruhe.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[16:39] <yarak> * PcJamesy (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[16:40] <iceroot> yarak: you have a support-question?
[16:40] <CAPITALISMUS> gald your not blind dude praise the lord for that
[16:40] <yarak> sorry abt that, unintentional paste   󠁟
[16:40] <yarak> yeah, my laptop fan won't shut off  󠁟
[16:41] <iceroot> yarak: also something with your client is wrong, you line is ending with a strange character
[16:41] <rcmaehl> how do I configure my media hotkeys on my keyboard to control other media players such as VLC?
[16:41] <yarak> it's always at full speed  󠁟
[16:41] <yarak> very loud  󠁟
[16:42] <CAPITALISMUS> oic you are commenting about my nick?
[16:42] <newbie_e> hello all, i just installed squid on ubuntu 11.04 i'm runing it as transparent proxy using http://pastebin.com/0zU63zcN but my local LAN users cannot reach HTTPS or port 1863 (help with iptables is needed)
[16:42] <yarak> nonono, my laptop fan won't shut off  󠁟
[16:42] <iceroot> newbie_e: #iptables
[16:42] <Barbariandude> yarak, try this: http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[16:42] <yarak> i'm afraid it will wake up my roommate :o  󠁟
[16:42] <Stereocaulon> I got to cook, have a nice day everyone!
[16:42] <newbie_e> thank you iceroot
[16:43] <rcmaehl> Barbariandude: that probably won't work as it's a laptop fan
[16:43] <Barbariandude> yarak, ignore me :P
[16:44] <yarak> Barbariandude: i actually tried that, after i did the modprobe i got a kernel panic :c  󠁟
[16:44] <Barbariandude> ouch
[16:44] <dak0> OuCh
[16:44] <LjL> yarak: what are those unicode characters you put at the end of each of your messages? they're a bit annoying :\
[16:44] <rcmaehl> Barbariandude: he probably needs to find the module for his specific brand of laptop and install it. Then control the fan from the packages provided from the module
[16:44] <dak0> LjL
[16:44] <dak0> how are you
[16:44] <rcmaehl> Such as for my samsung laptop.
[16:44] <yarak> LjL: i'm just using xchat idk what you're talking about  󠁟
[16:45] <LjL> [17:44:49] <yarak> LjL: i'm just using xchat idk what you're talking about  ��
[16:45] <yarak> don't see anything  󠁟
[16:45] <LjL> weird
[16:45] <yarak> unusual  󠁟
[16:45] <mongy>  
[16:45] <rcmaehl> no
[16:45] <yarak> hmm  󠁟
[16:45] <rcmaehl> it's mIRC
[16:45] <CAPITALISMUS> peculiar
[16:45] <Barbariandude> yarak, there's a unicode character after every single message:
[16:45] <CAPITALISMUS> singular
[16:45] <rcmaehl> he's using mirc /ctcp yarak version
[16:45] <yarak> rcmaehl: no, i just masked my ctcp version  󠁟
[16:45] <yarak> rcmaehl: so i don't get hacked on irc  󠁟
[16:45] <rcmaehl> heh
[16:45] <Barbariandude> lol
[16:46] <yarak> it's very easy to do in xchat as u know  󠁟
 rcmaehl: no, i just masked my ctcp version  󠁟
[16:46] <rcmaehl> yarak: what's your laptop brand?
[16:46] <auronandace> yarak: they are annoying
[16:46] <yarak> it's an asus  󠁟
[16:47] <dak0> SERBIA vs DENMARK FINAL EURO HANDBALL
[16:47] <CAPITALISMUS> asus have ubuntu drivers
[16:47] <yarak> oic  󠁟
[16:47] <CAPITALISMUS> i think
[16:47] <rcmaehl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11059282#post11059282 <- that should help
[16:47] <CAPITALISMUS> you c
[16:47] <Viliny> Hello, im running all our traffic in our flat through a ubuntu server running a dhcp server and 2 network cards. I'd like to block certain websites temporarily, whats the best way to do this? block the IP addresses in the firewall? Interfere with the browser in some way?
[16:47] <Barbariandude> My asus has ubuntu drivers as of 3.2. Yay for kernel upgrades >.<
[16:47] <LjL> dak0, stay on topic please, #ubuntu-offtopic is that way ;)
[16:48] <yarak> lol Barbariandude  󠁟
[16:48] <rcmaehl> also I got to go
[16:48] <dak0> THank you <3
[16:48] <yarak> cu rcmaehl  󠁟
[16:49] <popey> Viliny: google upsidedownternet
[16:49] <dak0> Can we send files via Ubuntu one ?
[16:49] <Viliny> popey, id rather spend my time on something useful
[16:50] <Myrtti> Viliny: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[16:50] <aasasd> YARAK
[16:50] <aasasd> STOP THAT CHARACTER
[16:50] <aasasd> AFTER UR WORDS!
[16:50] <Viliny> thank you. Sorry, im stressed out with school work and work work and i thought that was a sopa thing.
[16:50] <FloodBot1> aasasd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <yarak> what do you mean?  󠁟
[16:50] <Barbariandude> dak0, you can share with other ubuntu one users
[16:51] <LjL> yarak, i really need to ask you to look into what might be causing this, or people here will keep complaining
[16:51] <dak0> Thank you, Barbariandude
[16:51] <auronandace> yarak: you are doing it on purpose, eveyone else can see it
[16:51] <Chat2856> Hi
[16:52] <Barbariandude> o/
[16:52] <yarak> why are u being unfriendly 󠁟
[16:52]  * CyberDawg glares at yarak
[16:52] <yarak> ??? 󠁟
[16:52] <Barbariandude> lol at the mass nerdrage
[16:52] <Viliny> i can see nothing wrong with yarak
[16:52] <yarak> i'm not crazy 󠁟
[16:52] <yarak> i don't think 󠁟
[16:53] <Chat2856> ?
[16:53] <Viliny> also, thank you for the earlier reply popey, sorry i misunderstood.
[16:53] <popey> Viliny: np, apologies for asking you to google when I could have given you a link
[16:53] <yarak> i just came in here b/c my laptop fan wouldn't shut off 󠁟
[16:53] <yarak> not to get attacked 󠁟
[16:54] <Myrtti> moving on, kids
[16:54] <metasansana> lol
[16:54] <Viliny> popey, as i said back there, i thought it was a sopa/pipa thing with me here censoring the internets and whatnot. Thing is, i want to block facebook and other similar sites for tomorrow when me and my classmate/roommate need to do a tonne of schoolwork so he can stay on focus.
[16:55] <vivekimsit> I want to know any epub reader for my ebooks
[16:55] <Barbariandude> Viliny, http://visitsteve.com/made/selfcontrol/
[16:55] <roj> i need to help in internet connection sharing in linux
[16:55] <popey> Viliny: one way to do it is setup your server to use opendns, then you get a nice web admin tool on the opendns servers to manage blocking lists
[16:55] <popey> Viliny: then switch back to normal dns later
[16:55] <Barbariandude> Viliny, oh, that's for mac, sorry
[16:56] <Viliny> i have never used osx and never intend to do so... furthermore, im not doing this to control myself but another individual who owes me 20 hours of schoolwork i had to do alone despite it being a team project.
[16:56] <Gnea> !ics | roj
[16:57] <Viliny> roj: firestarter is also pretty nifty if you want to get it done easily... unless someone here tells you thats a bad idea.
[16:58] <Viliny> popey, currently we are using our isp:s dns server at home, this means that the dhcp is handing out the dns address for our isp. If i run a dns server locally, how will it work?
[16:58] <Lynette> Right I've been directed here by one of my more computer-competent friends to ask well, anybody here for help.
[16:58] <Viliny> im sorry if i go into network talk here but i might need some refreshing on memorizing all of this again
[16:59] <damselfly9> question- my dmesg logs are being cut-off, on every boot the beginning parts are missing, how is that fixable?
[16:59] <yarak> alexxx: irc'ing as root is a bad idea 󠁟
[16:59] <Gnea> Viliny: as long as your bind9 knows the current root server list, it should just work
[16:59] <Viliny> Gnea: the opendns server _will just work_ when swapped to ?
[17:00] <Viliny> reading up on bind9...
[17:00] <yarak> waiting for bind10 󠁟
[17:00] <yarak> lol 󠁟
[17:00] <Viliny> so dns uses bind9 to query hostnames for ips?
[17:00] <yarak> :) 󠁟
[17:00] <Gnea> Viliny: well, installing bind9 locally will give you a dns server on your gateway/fw/whatever you're using to connect with
[17:00] <Gnea> Viliny: bind9 *is* a dns server
[17:00] <auronandace> Lynette: you'll need to describe your problem to get help
[17:00] <Gnea> !info bind9
[17:00] <pangolin> yarak: Please figure out why your client keeps posting those unknown characters or i will be forced to remove you.
[17:01] <yarak> that is unfriendly, friend 󠁟
[17:01] <Gnea> Viliny: it's basically what the root dns servers use
[17:01] <yarak> i checked my xchat settings 󠁟
[17:01] <Viliny> Gnea: this would then be instead of opendns?
[17:01] <yarak> i don't see anything 󠁟
[17:01] <acicula> cant he just have a weird encoding set thats messing it up?
[17:01] <Lynette> Question (make the answer easy, I'm rubbish with computers): Say I wanted to play a game for Windows 95 on Ubuntu using Wine or PlayOnLinux, and then during the installation the game asks me to enable Audio Compression on Windows 95, (despite the fact that I'm running it on either PlayOnLinux or Wine), How would I go about doing this
[17:01] <yarak> can anyone help? 󠁟
[17:01] <Viliny> Gnea: im getting a little confused on the construction here, which components do i need?
[17:01] <popey> Viliny: i am not suggesting you setup a dns server, but that you point your /etc/resolv.conf on your server at opendns
[17:02] <Lynette> auronandace: that's why the quesiton took so long :)
[17:02] <dak0> Hey, witch Linux distro you'll recommend for a cyber club (internet cafe) ?
[17:02] <auronandace> Lynette: thats more of a wine question, ask in #winehq
[17:02] <Lynette> ah okay
[17:02] <Lynette> thanks
[17:02] <Gnea> Viliny: I don't see any reason to not use opendns... but from what I've read of your plight so far, you're trying to set it up so that social networking sites are blocked locally for a temporary amount of time?
[17:02] <yarak> dak0: losethos 󠁟
[17:02] <dak0> yarak, whats that ?
[17:03] <Viliny> Gnea: exactly
[17:03] <Gnea> yarak: try #xchat
[17:03] <xangua> dak0: if you are in the ubuntu channel, what suggestion do you expect¿
[17:03] <yarak> but xchat is part of ubuntu 󠁟
[17:03] <Viliny> dak0 linux mint seems to be friendly on windows users.
[17:03] <andai> I just got a 2nd hand computer with a broken CD drive. I don't have a spare CD drive. Can I put its hard drive in my good computer, install ubuntu on there, then put it back in? I.e. is it smart enough to detect the changed hardware and load the appropriate drivers when I put it back
[17:03] <Gnea> yarak: it's a specific program, so you need to get specific help, which we don't necessarily provide here
[17:03] <dak0> Viliny, thanks for your reply.
[17:04] <Viliny> dak0:  no worries, now do mind the fact that this is #ubuntu ;)
[17:04] <metasansana> Viliny: why not block the sites through your hosts file?
[17:04] <Gnea> Viliny: are you using squid?
[17:04] <Viliny> metasansana im open for all suggestions
[17:04] <dak0> Viliny: I can`t see why we shoudlnt talk about others distros they are all unix based
[17:04] <Viliny> Gnea: not at the moment no, used to use it on my old server
[17:04] <dak0> like Ubuntu
[17:04] <andai> dak0: it's like religions
[17:04] <auronandace> dak0: you might get a more neutral answer in ##linux
[17:04] <andai> :D
[17:05] <dak0> Thank you, auronandace
[17:05] <ssta> dak0: just not in #ubuntu, which is specifically for ubuntu...like the name says
[17:05] <metasansana> Put a line like 127.0.0.1 facebook.com in your hosts file
[17:05] <dak0> Okey sorry guys.
[17:05] <Viliny> dak0: linux is actually built upon ubuntu which is built upon debian and so forth... as far as i know. But it's not ok to discuss other than ubuntu specific stuff here.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> dak0: the channel is ubuntu support only, there is #linux where all distros are discussed
[17:05] <Viliny> linux mint*
[17:05] <Gnea> Viliny: or do like metasansana suggested... much easier
[17:05] <metasansana> I do that with my debian router :)
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: linux built on ubuntu? you sure
[17:05] <Viliny> Gnea: gladly, where do i look for the hosts file?
[17:05] <andai> dak0: Ii have similar problems when #ubuntu is the only active channel with people who probably know the answer to my question
[17:05] <Viliny> ActionParsnip: i ment linux mint
[17:05] <Gnea> Viliny: /etc/hosts
[17:05] <metasansana> /etc/hosts Viliny
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: ;)
[17:06] <Viliny> ;p
[17:06] <Viliny> thank you people
[17:06] <andai> so let me rephrase: Can I install Ubuntu for another computer by putting its hard drive into this one? Will that work OK?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> andai: sure
[17:06] <dsf4r4> [question] while configuring Network Proxy in System settings, there is no option to give user+pass. IIRC, older ubuntu used to have a small button titled 'Authenticate'.
[17:06] <Gnea> andai: yes
[17:06] <andai> ActionParsnip: Great. Thanks.
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> andai: just get it setup then after the first reboot, transfer the drive
[17:07] <Viliny> andai: ubuntu seems to have very little problems when switching hardware... etc computer to computer. but have noticed third party graphics drivers for cards like nvidia might take offense
[17:07] <dsf4r4> why was it removed?
[17:08] <pangolin> dsf4r4: might want to report a bug
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> dsf4r4: are there any bugs reported?
[17:08] <andai> Gnea, ActionParsnip, Viliny: Thanks! :)
[17:08] <iceroot> is there an easy way to get the diff of two deb-files? (not the source-package) without extracting them first?
[17:09] <Gnea> iceroot: define 'deb-file'
[17:09] <dsf4r4> ActionParsnip: not that i know of
[17:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: are yu facing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/906825
[17:09] <ssta> dsf4r4: it's not Ubuntu's fault..blame Gnome.  You can still do username:password@proxyhost
[17:09] <LjL> iceroot: there is "debdiff" in "devscripts"
[17:09] <dsf4r4> ssta: oh. thnx !
[17:09] <iceroot> LjL: isnt debdiff only for source-packages?
[17:10] <ssta> dsf4r4: see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646354
[17:10]  * Gnea crosses his fingers and hopes that this upgrade to 10.10 will stop the computer from hardlocking when NetworkManager or wicd are run
[17:10] <ssta> umm, thanks ubottu (what is the point of that? :)
[17:10] <LjL> iceroot: nope, works for binaries here
[17:11] <iceroot> LjL: ah great, thanks
[17:11] <dsf4r4> ssta: thanks #for the link
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: facing what?
[17:11] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: the bug i posted
[17:12] <greenit> how do i change the standard torrent-program? there is no option at systempreferences > system info > default-applications
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: not had that, only thing I get is gmail-notify makling the panel a mess. I have a script to kill th notifier and panl, thenrestart it then restart the notifier app
[17:13] <LjL> !default | greenit
[17:13] <Viliny> is the hosts file realtime? i mean do i need to restart something after altering it?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: its realtime (no reboot)
[17:13] <ssta> Viliny: it's realtime
[17:13] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ah the "spaces" bug :)
[17:13] <Viliny> awesome, thank you.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: yeah and half icons, stuff like that
[17:13] <metasansana> Viliny: it is read on before each dns look up
[17:13] <iceroot> Viliny: depending on the program
[17:13] <iceroot> Viliny: e.g. apache needs a reload
[17:13] <greenit> LjL, ok, i did this, but firefox always asks to open the *.torrent-file with transmission instead of qbittorrent
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: I'm half thinking of jumping to tint2
[17:14] <Viliny> why would apache need the hosts file?
[17:14] <Viliny> eh nvm.
[17:14] <iceroot> Viliny: to get the FQDN
[17:14] <LjL> greenit: uhm, i've had that sort of issue with firefox i think, i suspect it tends to ignore the defaults. not sure how to change that.
[17:14] <metasansana> prob to get data from another server?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> greenit: is the association set in firefox too?
[17:14] <greenit> ActionParsnip, nope, how do i do this?
[17:14] <pangolin> greenit: you have to change it in firefox
[17:14] <iceroot> Viliny: and that is done at start
[17:14] <greenit> pangolin, ok, how?
[17:14]  * Gnea frowns as he recovers from the hardlock problem just now that I was trying to avoid
[17:14] <pangolin> greenit: let me take a look.
[17:15] <pangolin> greenit: firefox prefs > applications and you will se a list in there you can edit
[17:15] <greenit> pangolin, ok, thx
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> greenit: i believe its in tools -> prefs I haven't used firefox in ages.
[17:17] <Gnea> has anyone ever encountered a problem where running NetworkManager or wicd causes the computer to completely freeze up?  I have this happen on a consistent basis - the capslock and scroll-lock LEDs wind up blinking until I hit the reset button
[17:17] <greenit> pangolin, erm.... when i click "other application..." the filebrowser is opening... where do i have to go to find the right prog?
[17:17] <greenit> pangolin, in the filebrowser
[17:18] <damselfly9> Gnea: sounds hardware related
[17:18] <Gnea> damselfly9: what sucks is that I get absolutely no response in syslog about it, and sysrq is completely unresponsive
[17:18] <pangolin> greenit: /usr/bin/transmission i believe
[17:19] <greenit> pangolin, ok, thx again^^
[17:19] <Gnea> damselfly9: it could be, but I solved some other hardware problems on this system over a year ago... perhaps it needs another bios update
[17:19] <damselfly9> Gnea, if it is hardware related and the system locks up, syslogd will never get the chance to write any error messages
[17:19] <Gnea> damselfly9: yup
[17:20] <jNovice> Hello. I have error on my notebook  (lenovo ideapad) after installing 11.10: error: invalid arch independent elf magic.
[17:20] <jNovice> I would like to follow this http://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-11-10-install-on-macbook-pro-5
[17:20] <Viliny> Gnea: so altering my hosts file will also affect the clients in the local network? they don't bypass the servers hosts file?
[17:20] <jNovice> but I also have windows so I don't know which partitions use in this commands
[17:20] <__ale__> #ubuntu-it
[17:20] <damselfly9> Gnea, sounds like a net card that doesn't play nicely with the rest of the hardware
[17:20] <greenit> pangolin, yay, works with the /usr/bin/ file :)
[17:20] <jNovice> could anybody give advice?
[17:20] <jNovice> I could give my fdsisk list
[17:21] <Gnea> Viliny: good point - yeah, I'd setup a squid server and have it act as a web-proxy
[17:21] <andai> Gonna put ubuntu on my old computer ( 1GB ram ). Dual core ( AMD Athlon 3800+, 2.4GHz ) any reason to get 64 bit over 32 bit?
[17:22] <greenit> jNovice, do you have 2 linux-partitions (except swap), one for /boot and one for /     ?
[17:22] <Viliny> Gnea: is that difficult?
[17:23] <Gnea> damselfly9: it's possible.  it's got a wireless-usb type thing on there that shows up, but I have never gotten the wifi to work (it shows up as eth1)
[17:23] <jNovice> greenit for ubuntu I have /, /home and swap
[17:23] <jNovice> greenit boot device during installation was set to /dev/sda
[17:23] <Gnea> damselfly9: oh, and the mac address is set to 00:00:00:00:00:01
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> andai: not really, you only gots 1Gb RAM, you won't see much benefit.
[17:24] <damselfly9> Gnea, well that's definitely a wrong mac address
[17:24] <pangolin> greenit: glad i could help.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> andai: its more than most of my systems. RAM is cheap dude. I'd max out the board out
[17:24] <greenit> jNovice, ok, then just type in the first two and the last command, not the third
[17:24] <Viliny> Gnea: how do i enforce local clients to go through the squid proxy?
[17:24] <Gnea> damselfly9: I think you uncovered it.... wicd, at least, has been told that eth1 is the wireless interface, and even if it's in the 'down' position, it needs to check on it to get its settings
[17:24] <Viliny> Gnea: redirect port 80 somehow or?
[17:24] <andai> ActionParsnip: So install 64 bit and then get more ram? I haven't used ubuntu in a while, are all the things that used to be downsides to 64 bit sorted out?
[17:25] <greenit> jNovice, with changing sda3 to your / drive
[17:25] <Gnea> Viliny: yeah, using iptables, you can do a forced web proxy
[17:25] <jNovice> greenit I have ubuntu / on /dev/sda5 and /home on /dev/sda6. Windows bootloader is on sda1 and windows 7 on sda2
[17:25] <giorgio85> hello
[17:25] <giorgio85> I have a problem with graphics LXDE ubuntu 11.10, when I open the browers epiphanym LibreOffice open simultaneously: by any chance know how to remove this problem?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> andai: never had a 64bit Ubuntu 'issue', I'd always max the RAM on a board now, its cheap as chips
[17:25] <greenit> jNovice, ok, then the second command is sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[17:25] <Gnea> Viliny: problem is, I don't have a browser to use at the moment (I'm stuck in the terminal/console until I can get my own problem fixed)
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: what do you get onscreen?
[17:26] <Gnea> !ics | Viliny
[17:26] <Gnea> !squid | Viliny
[17:26] <Gnea> Viliny: one of those links might help
[17:26] <andai> ActionParsnip: Thank you :)
[17:26] <Viliny> Gnea: thank you
[17:26] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   the home page of LibreOffice
[17:27] <jNovice> greenit and third with sda6 ?
[17:27] <alden> i have a problem with my monitor, it's giving me an "Out of Range" error and won't boot up. i understand this is because my resolution is too small, but it won't boot so i can adjust it. what do?
[17:28] <dlentz> alden, do you know how to boot into grub/recovery mode
[17:28] <andai> Cool, I can get 16 GB of ram. Are there any fun things to do with ridiculous amounts of ram? I also plan on getting SSD's ( 2, RAID 0 ). Could I load my entire boot partition into RAM and just run it there?
[17:28] <Gnea> and now, I reboot
[17:28]  * Gnea crosses fingers
[17:28] <dlentz> andai, VM's
[17:28] <alden> nope, never had to before
[17:28] <andai> dlentz: Aha! In that case, I have an excuse to upgrade my CPU as well :D
[17:29] <dlentz> alden, hold shift after bios/post screen to get to the grub menu
[17:29] <dlentz> (i think it's shift)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: if you close all libreoffice apps, rename ~/.libreoffice then rerun the app, is it ok?
[17:30] <Barbariandude> ActionParsnip, only one way to find out!
[17:30] <alden> dlentz: didn't work, BIOS screen? the first screen shows up with the eMachines logo, then it goes to Out of Range
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> andai: the OS will use it as disk cache and make the OS faster as you will use that instead of raw accessing the drives (slow)
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Barbariandude: FIGHT!!
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> alden: what GPU do you use?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Barbariandude: are you from the UK?
[17:31] <Barbariandude> ActionParsnip, yup
[17:31] <alden> ActionParsnip: dont know what GPU is, i'm running natty narwhal
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Barbariandude: just making sure you got the reference ;)
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> alden: the video chip? nvidia? Intel? ATi?
[17:31] <Barbariandude> alden, graphical processing unit
[17:31] <aasasd> what's the name for Ctrl+ C signal
[17:31] <aasasd> is it SIGINT
[17:31] <jNovice> greenit somethin wrong, I get something like this: mnt doesn't look like efi partition
[17:31] <varun06> good video editor for Ubuntu
[17:31] <dlentz> alden, try again, hold shift earlier
[17:32] <aasasd> SIGABRT/
[17:32] <auronandace> varun06: openshot
[17:32] <varun06> let me check
[17:32] <Barbariandude> varun06, alternativeto.net is a good site for those sorts of questions
[17:32] <alden> dlentz: seemed like it almost worked, but then it took me to Out of Range again
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> alden: or does the system have a make / model?
[17:32] <acicula> andai: there is really no advantage to first loading your boot partition into memory and then booting from there, you will still have to wait for stuff to be copied to the ramdisk
[17:33] <alden> ActionParsnip: the chip is nvidia
[17:34] <Viliny> can't seem to open gedit with root priviledges over my nomachine nx session. frustrating.
[17:34] <Gnea> interesting... the wireless card still has an errornous mac address, but the hardlock problem no longer occurs... however, I no longer have X as it complains that /etc/gdm/custom.conf is not there
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> alden: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: gksudo gedit     not working?
[17:34] <Viliny> nope
[17:34] <Viliny> ActionParsnip: all i get is a little flash in the taskbar
[17:34] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,    If rinonimo. LibreOffice error tells me the file exists in the destination
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: use:  sudo nano /path/to/file   then ;)
[17:35] <alden> ActionParsnip: i'm new so you're going to have to hold my hand, how do i add that boot option
[17:35] <Viliny> ActionParsnip: i was hoping to use gedit because i need to config squid.conf and it is quite large :p
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: what is making that message?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: nano will do it with ease
[17:35] <Viliny> how do i search in nano
[17:36] <Gnea> Viliny: just read the bottom, it tells you all of the functions.... like ^C means control-C
[17:36] <Viliny> what does the ^ mean?
[17:36] <Gnea> control
[17:36] <Viliny> ah ffs, sorry
[17:36] <Gnea> you know, the control key
[17:36] <Gnea> :)
[17:36] <Viliny> you JUST explained it. sorry im pretty stupid today
[17:36] <Gnea> no worries
[17:37] <Gnea> I'm on half a cup of coffee and no food yet
[17:37] <Gnea> just reboot and STILL no gui
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: CTRL+W
[17:37] <Viliny> 2 slices of bread with eggs on top 12 hours ago and 2 cups of coffee and 2 batterys later :p
[17:37] <Gnea> Viliny: 12 hours is a LONG time :)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: for (w)here,   CTRL+C chows the cursor position
[17:38] <Viliny> yes i know, need to do like... 6 reports for tuesday and i thought the office would be a good place to get things done.
[17:38] <ale_> hi i want to install ubuntu 10.04 lts. my comp is 64 bit,,,what's better 32 or 64 bit? tnx
[17:38] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   I opened my home / . libreoffice and click on riname
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: using nano also allows you to ditch stupid freenx and just use SSH, which is a TONNE sleeker and faster
[17:38] <Gnea> ale_: 64-bit should work just fine
[17:38] <ale_> tnx
[17:39] <Gnea> !amd64 | ale_
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: you need all the libreoffice apps closed and run:  mv ~/.libreoffice ~/.libreoffice_old
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: then rerun the app, you will get vanilla settings
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: 9 times in 10 you don't need freenx / vnxc / junk like that
[17:39] <alden> i'm still waiting for instruction on how to boot into recovery mode
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ale_: there is no universal better, choose what suits your hardware and needs
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> alden: hold shift at boot, if you then press E on the kernel, you can add the option I gacve
[17:40] <alden> holding shift at boot does nothing
[17:41] <Viliny> ActionParsnip: i know how most people feel and usually i do things via putty anyway, i just have some things i like to do via gui so i had this for backup.
[17:41] <Gnea> !nvidia
[17:42]  * Gnea sighs and facepalms
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | alden use this but use the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1   instead
[17:42] <LukeNukem> so what are the cool things is should do in Ubuntu
[17:43] <LukeNukem> to make it awesome ;)
[17:43] <razorfish> install gentoo
[17:43] <pangolin> !behelpful | razorfish
[17:43] <LukeNukem> razorfish, gentoo is another os ;\
[17:43] <respond> all, am need upgrade my ubuntu deskto to ubuntu server online that be ?
[17:43] <damselfly9> Gnea, if your solution for your eth1 broke X, maybe you could just set it's driver to never load?
[17:43] <razorfish> yes but ubuntu can be the working system used to install it
[17:43] <respond> i mean can i do that online
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: depends what you use your OS for...
[17:44] <CharminTheMoose> I wonder, can you do a chroot install of gentoo?
[17:44] <Gnea> damselfly9: the nvidia driver never got built, this is a whole new problem
[17:44] <LukeNukem> Music, browsing, movies and programming =)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: same OS, different distro. Both are linux ;)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: install build-essential and you will get an ANSI standard C compiler...
[17:44] <Gnea> damselfly9: I go to install the nvidia-185 driver packages and it... never builds...
[17:44] <LukeNukem> im new to Linux, most advise me to start in Ubuntu and then move onto ArchLinux
[17:44] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   I gave into the terminal       mv ~/.libreoffice ~/.libreoffice_old :  but no solution
[17:44] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, i do php programming..i use the netbeans ide
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: did anything output?
[17:45] <pangolin> Gnea: why not install nvidia-current?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: well give more detail than 'programming' and we can advise better
[17:45] <damselfly9> Gnea, are you using the opensource nvidia driver or the proprietary one?
[17:45] <Gnea> damselfly9: from the repository, I don't use from the website
[17:46] <Gnea> damselfly9: but the propietary one
[17:46] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   I closed my epiphany and LibreOffice
[17:46] <artichoku> i know this is an ubuntu channel, but
[17:46] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, like i said, i program in php.
[17:46] <Gnea> damselfly9: taking a break for breakfast, be back in a bit :)
[17:46] <damselfly9> that might be why it can't build
[17:46] <artichoku> has anyone used suse and how is it, if so
[17:46] <LukeNukem> so i have installed apache
[17:46] <LjL> !ot | artichoku
[17:46] <LukeNukem> phpmyadmin and the netbeans ide
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: I'd ask in #suse
[17:46] <artichoku> i came accross a site where i could make my own
[17:46] <artichoku> ooo
[17:46] <artichoku> good idea
[17:46] <artichoku> rofl
[17:46] <FloodBot1> artichoku: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | LukeNukem
[17:47] <|Anthony|> using a dual head setup with nvidia 290.10 on ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[17:47] <|Anthony|> if i leave the pointer on the secondary screen when the screensaver comes on, when i return the pointer goes all wonky... it will quickly cycle through the pointer images
[17:47] <LukeNukem> ActionParsnip, yeah ive installed it..
[17:47] <respond> ActionParsnip, are i can install ispconfig on ubuntu 10.04 or are can i update my ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server with online
[17:47] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   this problem is only with the epiphany, opera and firefox with no
[17:48] <LukeNukem> i would like to know how to setup a mail server on linux :)
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: are there any bugs reported?
[17:48] <giorgio85> no
[17:48] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip, no
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> respond: the server is just the same OS without an X server and a slightly different kernel. You can add the boot option:  text    and the OS will boot to text mode only
[17:49] <alden> LukeNukem: Empathy is the progam you're looking for
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: I suggest you report one
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[17:50] <respond> ActionParsnip,  so can i or posible or install ispconfig on my ubuntu am need make web hosting on my home pc
[17:50] <ssta> LukeNukem: the easy way: sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel  # pick the mail-server task.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> respond: not heard of it, sorry
[17:50] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   it is possible to remove ubuntu 11.10 LibreOffice and then put it back?
[17:50] <respond> any body know how to make web hosting on my home with ubuntu 10.04 ????? ugren
[17:50] <alaing> does anyone know of a general network irc channel
[17:51] <chuck1310> giorgio85: by the update manager
[17:51] <LjL> alaing: you mean a channel about networking? ##networking
[17:51] <iceroot> !alis | alaing
[17:51] <damselfly9> respond, does your isp allow it?
[17:51] <Barbariandude> respond | !lamp
[17:51] <Bsims> respond, install apache?
[17:51] <Barbariandude> ubottu doesn't have lamp? awww
[17:51] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   oneiric
[17:51] <alaing> thank you iceroot and LjL
[17:51] <iceroot> !lamp | Barbariandude
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: cool, does it happen if you make a new user and log in as that?
[17:52] <Barbariandude> oh, had it the wrong way round :P thanks iceroot
[17:52] <LukeNukem> so if i install mail server, what would the email adress look like? admin@my_ip_here
[17:52] <LukeNukem> ?
[17:52] <Bsims> yup
[17:52] <LukeNukem> nice, what if i setup a DNS
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: you can register an email domain for cheap too, it'l redirect to your mail server :)
[17:53] <Bsims> edit the config accordingly
[17:53] <respond> Bsims, am have install apache
[17:53] <giorgio85>  ActionParsnip      what to do ??
[17:53] <Barbariandude> respond, google for apache guides and get reading
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: run:  sudo adduser testy      log off and log in as testy with the password you set, is it the same?
[17:54] <respond> Barbariandude, am have ready install apache : that still http://localhost/ am need blablabal.com
[17:54] <respond> how do i make that at home with ubuntu 10.04 deskto ? are that posible
[17:55] <Barbariandude> respond, exactly, you need to create a configuration page in etc/apache2/sites-available with all the settings. Do some reading to find out how.
[17:55] <respond> Barbariandude, my network at home ready can open my web server with my ip
[17:56] <respond> but how can all people on www can open it to
[17:56] <respond> Barbariandude, are i need register on dyndns.org
[17:56] <iceroot> respond: set a dns-entry to your ip
[17:56] <respond> Barbariandude, did you have some link like dyndns.org for free
[17:56] <dhanu> hi all
[17:56] <Barbariandude> respond, you need to find out your external ip address, and tell people to connect to that, you need dyndns if you have a dynamic, not static IP.
[17:56] <iceroot> respond: normally done at a dns-prodiver
[17:57] <respond> iceroot, what dns-prodiver
[17:57] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   still equal
[17:57] <iceroot> respond: the one you like most
[17:57] <ssta> whoever you buy the domain name from
[17:57] <theadmin> respond: You need to buy a domain name from someone.
[17:57] <iceroot> respond: if you want a real domain you have to contact a dns-provider
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> giorgio85: then its a bug with the app, not your settings
[17:58] <respond> theadmin, and iceroot are we need setting some router at my home ?
[17:58] <giorgio85> ok thanks
[17:58] <giorgio85> ActionParsnip,   ok thanks
[17:58] <Barbariandude> respond, most routers, yes you do. You need to allow incoming connections to go to your computer. Exactly how to do that depends on the router.
[17:59] <subb1>  hi all. a very trivial question maybe
[17:59] <theadmin> respond: Yes, configure port-forwarding or DMZ.
[17:59] <theadmin> subb1: Just ask it
[17:59] <subb1>  i already have tomboy and stickynotes. But when started they lie along the taskbar with other open windows. Is there any other desktopnote prog that only lies in notification area or not even there ( runs in background) ?
[17:59] <sharkmap> hi all. thanks for being here. I am a very new beginner. By lurking her I lerned how to change the desktop environment. it really makes my old laptop faster.
[17:59] <sharkmap> here
[17:59] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, you got lubuntu?
[18:00] <sharkmap> yeah. 10.04
[18:00] <respond> Barbariandude, theadmin my internet provaider give my dinamic ip not statick tat can be used dmz
[18:00] <sharkmap> no, just regular ubuntu
[18:00] <pangolin> subb1: install alltray
[18:00] <dak0> lol.
[18:00] <theadmin> respond: That can be used with your router, sure, but you'll need a Dynamic DNS provider which is not an easy find.
[18:00] <sharkmap> but i put lxde on it, is that lubuntu?
[18:00] <dak0> its xubuntu
[18:00] <respond> DNS provider what you recomend for me theadmin
[18:00] <dak0> i thing,
[18:00] <pangolin> lxde is Lubuntu
[18:00] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, if you have an old laptop and you want a light DE, give lubuntu a try live off a usb and see if it's faster, it probably will be
[18:01] <theadmin> respond: None really... Well, I myself use http://dnsexit.com but that's all up to you anyway
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> pangolin: its used in lubuntu, lxde is lxde and nothing more
[18:01] <pangolin> ActionParsnip: right, for simplicity I stayed vague
[18:01] <ssta> you can install lxde without installing lubuntu...
[18:01] <ssta> no need to reinstall just to get lcde
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> subb1: like a daemon notes app? how would you post new notes without a UI?
[18:01] <sharkmap> what is lubuntu?
[18:01] <ssta> s/lcde/lxde/
[18:01] <pangolin> ActionParsnip: but i get your point. i'll be more clear in the future :)
[18:01] <Barbariandude> !lubuntu | sharkmap
[18:01] <dhanu> i installed ubuntu server i wanted to give only shutdown rights to normal user so help me on this
[18:02] <sharkmap> very new here <__
[18:02] <subb1> pangolin, with this i can move the present notes to notif. area? is that the trick?
[18:02] <ssta> sharkmap: it's like Ubuntu, but has lxde as the default environment
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sharkmap: its the ubuntu OS but uses LXDE and openbox instead of gnome and compiz. It uses a fraction of the resources of gnome based ubuntu.
[18:02] <subb1> ActionParsnip, hi... i want a gui on desktop :)
[18:02] <dak0> Why do you guys reply to sharkmap like mad ?
[18:02] <theadmin> dhanu: Add this to sudoers: username ALL=/sbin/shutdown, /sbin/poweroff, /sbin/reboot, /sbin/halt
[18:02] <dak0> :D
[18:02] <Barbariandude> ssta, is that the only difference? I thought the default programs were also switched around to utilize LXDE better
[18:02] <pri0n> greets all
[18:02] <pangolin> subb1: correct, you run alltray and then can select what apps you want sent to notification area
[18:02] <sharkmap> so if I installed regular ubuntu then installed th lxde de, is it lubuntu? I am confused
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> sharkmap: it also uses lighter apps, so instead of libreoffice, it uses abiword and gnumeric. The other apps are obviously available but the defaults are light and fast
[18:03] <theadmin> sharkmap: No, not the same, but close enough :D
[18:03] <pri0n> what are the chances someone here has any experience with wimax under ubuntu 11.10?
[18:03] <subb1> pangolin, wow. thanks. let me try .. :)
[18:03] <respond> theadmin, am used fonera router this manual http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_webserver what i must do ?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> subb1: then install an ubuntu with a desktop and not the server release..
[18:03] <sharkmap> cool. new stuff to learn ecvery day
[18:03] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, it also has slightly different default programs, to use less resources. Using ubuntu with LXDE should be enough though
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> sharkmap  rather download lubuntu
[18:03] <theadmin> respond: I'm not familiar with your router, sorry.
[18:03] <sharkmap> darn keyboard
[18:03] <theadmin> respond: Figure it out yourself or contact the manufacturer's support, that's got nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:03] <respond> theadmin, what you reouter
[18:04] <theadmin> respond: I use D-Link DIR-320 with DD-WRT on it.
[18:04] <sirninja> I'm trying to get a network bridge setup for KVM and I'm having difficulties getting it working. Could somebody help me with that?
[18:04] <sharkmap> i have a very a very old laptop so any speed improvement will help
[18:04] <respond> theadmin, what alse we need configuration for own ubuntu
[18:04] <dak0> sharkmap
[18:04] <damselfly9> respond, before you put in too much effort, see if your isp will allow you to run servers. some isps prevent it from working at all
[18:04] <dak0> you should try with damnsmalllinux
[18:04] <dak0> DSL
[18:05] <subb1> ActionParsnip, oh no. think you got me wrong. I have ubuntu with gnome :) all i wanted was the sticky note to NOT lie in the task bar with other open windows. Its UI should def be on the desktop :)
[18:05] <theadmin> dak0: ew, don't suggest something that doesn't even work. Archbang ftw :P
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> respond  http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-your-own-distributable-ubuntu-dvd-relinux
[18:05] <sharkmap> ha damn small linux. I love these names
[18:05] <respond> damselfly9, i thinks my isp allow for run server at my pc home
[18:05] <respond> MonkeyDust, thanks i will try
[18:05] <dak0> Who said DSL dosent work ?
[18:05] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, look up suicide linux. Most evil distro ever.
[18:05] <dak0> works on 16mb of ram
[18:05] <pri0n> i figured it was a longshot, but I would love to get my Sprint 4G working under ubuntu
[18:05] <pri0n> 3G works, though its incredibly slow
[18:06] <respond> MonkeyDust, you miss give me link that for make distro
[18:06] <respond> MonkeyDust, am need make home server at my home with ubuntu 10.04
[18:06] <sharkmap> too many choicees. I think I'll stay with lxde and see how it goes
[18:06] <pri0n> but wimax in linux still seems to be a bit unique
[18:06] <sharkmap> i had the laptop running overnight, and it didn't overheat or show any errors, so I think Im ok there.
[18:08] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, thing to remember about linux + all the distros is it's 90% about personal choice/preference. Figure out what you like, what you don't like :)
[18:08] <Gnea> damselfly9: so I discovered a zero-length nvidia-current.ko file
[18:08] <pri0n> anyone have any experience at all with wimax in Ubuntu?
[18:08] <theadmin> pri0n: That's not a real question, ask the real one and you might get an answer
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | pri0n
[18:08] <sirninja> Could someone help me get a bridged network set up?
[18:08] <damselfly9> Gnea, that would tend to imply to stopped building due to an error
[18:08] <pri0n> got it
[18:09] <sharkmap> seems like I jumped in the deep end. need to go back to the wading pool for a bit to get my bearings
[18:09] <Barbariandude> :P
[18:09] <mongy> pri0n, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817211  might be some help.  first page I googled
[18:09] <Gnea> damselfly9: yes.  so, got it rebuilt.... but now there's still no nvidia.ko anywhere
[18:09] <pri0n> i'm actually having difificulty putting this in the form of a reasonable question...
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: try the xorg edgers less fresh ppa, gives the 290 driver
[18:10] <WhyWhyWhy> hey guys i love ubuntu
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> WhyWhyWhy: glad you are enjoying it
[18:10] <WhyWhyWhy> sometimes i wish ubuntu was my girlfriend
[18:10] <damselfly9> Gnea, don't know. I use an old matrox
[18:11] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: well I'm currently on a freshly updated 10.10 from 10.04 install (amd64), so maybe just proceeding to 11.04 would be a better plan
[18:11] <Barbariandude> WhyWhyWhy, just get her instead: https://www.youtube.com/user/nixiedoeslinux
[18:11] <sharkmap> can ubuntu be installed on a thumb drive so that then entire install is portable? or will it only work as a live install?
[18:11] <oCean> Barbariandude: please don't post offtopic content here, thanks
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: maverick is EOL in april so I wouldn't waste any time on it personally
[18:12] <WhyWhyWhy> ohhh yeaaa
[18:12] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, it certainly can. Get unetbootin.sourceforge.net and install the live version on a usb
[18:12] <Barbariandude> oCean, sorry :)
[18:12] <Gnea> damselfly9, ActionParsnip: I ran this and it seemed to get the zero-length driver taken care of: for i in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep nvidia | awk '{print $2}'`; do j=`echo $i`; dpkg-reconfigure "$j"; done
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: sweet, I see what you did there :)
[18:12] <sharkmap> barbariandude: thanks. whats the smallest size drive I can use?
[18:12] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: :)
[18:12] <oCean> !usb | sharkmap
[18:13] <sirninja> Could someone help me get a network bridge setup for KVM? I'm having issues getting it working correctly
[18:13] <Barbariandude> sharkmap, 1gb I think
[18:13] <Gnea> so yeah, I'm just gonna upgrade to 11.04 from this point
[18:13] <Gnea> ActionParsnip, damselfly9: thanks for the help :)
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: any time
[18:13] <damselfly9> you're welcome
[18:13] <sharkmap> thanks ubottu (even though you are only a bot!)
[18:14] <sharkmap> barbariandude: thanks!
[18:14] <artichoku> having a small issue. i switched to gnome classic, and when i switched back to unity, the screen opens up as "activities"
[18:14] <artichoku> how do i make that go away?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace     is it ok?
[18:15] <pri0n> I am working on enabling wimax under 11.10 and have managed to track down the wimax-tools and wimax-ns from the defunct linuxwimax.com
[18:16] <artichoku> er... ok well the activity thing closed
[18:16] <artichoku> but now i have no bars all
[18:16] <pri0n> from what I read this really only supported the intel wimax chipset, but it's the best lead i've managed to track down
[18:16] <artichoku> just this because it was already open
[18:17] <artichoku> ok i got compiz open and reinabled the bar
[18:17] <artichoku> i'm good now i think
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> pri0n: is it usb or internal?
[18:17] <pri0n> wimax-ns gives me an error on configure about libeap package, but i can't seem to find what package libeap.so comes from
[18:17] <pri0n> usb
[18:17] <pri0n> i see it with lsusb and it work under 3g
[18:17] <LukeNukem> hello
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> pri0n: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !enter| pri0n
[18:17] <bastidrazor> !find libeap.so
[18:17] <LukeNukem> is there a good application to download music in ubuntu so i can DL all the good songs before sopa pass ;p
[18:18] <pri0n> hex ID, got it
[18:18] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem: what torrents?
[18:18] <Barbariandude> LukeNukem, you mean torrent, direct or from youtubeL
[18:18] <Barbariandude> ?
[18:18] <danny_> ok so when im at the destop and i start typing for no reason a little white text box apears in the bottum right hand corner what is this for
[18:18] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem: if its pirate stuff then thats noot allowed in here
[18:18] <Gentoo64> i doubt :)
[18:19] <Barbariandude> LukeNukem, you could always be legit and download tons of CC music from jamendo.com
[18:19] <LukeNukem> cmon i just want to download music using an application on ubuntu
[18:19] <LukeNukem> i thought you guys supported 'free'
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> or go to the shop and buy music, or am i being old now?
[18:19] <Gnea> LukeNukem: 'free' is a relative term.
[18:20] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem: depends from where, you could use a browser, or a torrent client for torrents
[18:20] <LukeNukem> MonkeyDust, i do not have that kind of money..
[18:20] <LukeNukem> Gentoo64, something like limewire or the old napster
[18:20] <danny_> LikeNukem, free jsut means the code is free not free as doesnt cost anything
[18:20] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem: linux has frostwire
[18:20] <LukeNukem> nice
[18:20] <Barbariandude> LukeNukem, your options are transmission for torrents, youtube-dl for commandline downloading of videos from youtube, or jamendo.com for music in the creative commons.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: http://www.legittorrents.info/
[18:21] <danny_> LikeNukem, like you can take most of the aplications and tweak them to ur liking or improve them urself or jsut create ur own desktop enviroment
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: we do, free and legal
[18:21] <LukeNukem> there is 'free legal music :P' anyways ima try jamendo
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: I go to gigs and get given TDK disks a lot
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> LukeNukem: yes, check the link I gave
[18:22] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: might have a problem... I went to interrupt the do-release-upgrade thing because I wanted to check something really quick (it was at the point where it asked if I wanted to continue or not, so I said no) and it left my sources.list in the new state and didn't go back to the maverick state... I re-ran it and now it's stuck "calculating the changes"
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: may need to run:  sudo apt-get -f install     instead
[18:23] <ssta> Barbariandude: I think if you install the lubuntu-desktop package you get all that...
[18:23] <ssta> Barbariandude: I might be incorrect though
[18:23] <Barbariandude> ssta, fair enough. And now I know :)
[18:23] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: but the sources.list is saying it's set for 'natty' and natty isn't installed yet.
[18:24] <dak0> Gnea you want to swtich from Ubuntu to lubuntu ?
[18:24] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: and I can't find the maverick sources.list file in /etc//apt/ anywhere
[18:24] <Gnea> dak0: pardon?
[18:24] <dak0> Gnea, the question is clear enough ?
[18:24] <Gnea> dak0: yes, but it was quite irrelevent.
[18:24] <Gnea> dak0: in short, no.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: could try a normal upgrade then should do it
[18:26] <rcmaehl> I have a keyboard and some of the keys show up as /dev/input/event3 while the keyboard is /dev/input/event2. How do I make the system recognize the keys on /dev/input/event3?
[18:26] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: nevermind, it was just taking its sweet time doing the calculations... I usually get a bit more pep out of this dualcore p4 3ghz
[18:26] <ssta> Gnea: I think do-release-upgrade keeps a copy of the old sources.list somewhere (probably named something like sources.list.backup or something)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: yeah, p4 is sweet too
[18:26] <rcmaehl> These keys are hotkeys and about half of them aren't recognized because they show up as a different event
[18:26] <Gnea> ssta: that's what I thought, too.... the only backups were for lucid.
[18:27] <ssta> Gnea: you should be safe enough to just edit sources.list back to maverick and go from there...
[18:27] <Gnea> well, the upgrade process is now underway
[18:27] <Gnea> ssta: I doubt it, it seems to have sorted itself out :)
[18:28] <Gnea> ssta: it just took longer than I expected it to
[18:28] <Gnea> since I'm in console and not X, there's not much in the way of letting me know when something's happening
[18:28] <ssta> Gnea: excellent.  Good luck :)
[18:28] <Gnea> ssta: thank you :)
[18:29] <nancy--> is there a readymade free solution to be a webhost. i have a server but i dont have software installed to manage accounts and give them cpanel type of thing or manage their bandwith , give them stats. etc.
[18:29] <nancy--> ?
[18:30] <ssta> nancy--: there's a project called "freepanel".  I don't know if it's still active or not though
[18:30] <Barbariandude> nancy--, see if there's a module for drupal that does what you want. drupal.org and #drupal
[18:31] <nancy--> Barbariandude,  i thought drupal was for bloging only
[18:32] <nancy--> ssta,  ok
[18:32] <respond> https://erespond.mooo.com ? did you can see my home page ?
[18:32] <Barbariandude> nancy--, no, it's very versatile. There are community-made modules to alter the functionality in drastic ways, to turn it into pretty much anything
[18:32] <sirninja> Could someone help me figure out how to get bridged networking working on ubuntu?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !ics | sirninja
[18:32] <respond> https://erespond.mooo.com ? did you can see my home page ? am have put ubuntu tutorial from me on that di you can see that ?
[18:33] <stephenh> ics and bridging aren't the same if it's the bridging i'm thinking of..
[18:33] <ssta> nancy--: also, plesk is fairly common these days...and it's not all that expensive
[18:33] <sirninja> ActionParsnip: I'm wanting to use it with KVM, so would that still be the same set of instructions?
[18:33] <Barbariandude> respond, nope
[18:33] <zykotick9> sirninja: are you trying to bridge wireless with you kvm or an ethernet?
[18:34] <camara1> hi
[18:34] <respond> Barbariandude, what a error
[18:34] <sirninja> zykotick9: ethernet. And it seems to work on the guest end, but I get about 90% packet loss on the host for some reason
[18:34] <pri0n> ActionParsnip, thank you for the tip on looking up via hex ID as it was exactly what i needed to find a great lead
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: it uses a bridged connection afair
[18:35] <jeremiah_> how come when i try to install java runtime, it never works?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> pri0n: yeah don't get hung up on makes and models in Linux, it means very little. The ID your OS sees is what you need
[18:35] <sbsin> Hi, in the instructions for a programming exercise they are using the command "2" to combine two applications, what's the package for this application called? Example: 2 "tsim Lab1.map" "java Lab1 10 5"
[18:35] <Barbariandude> respond, unable to connect. If you just got that domain name now, it's gonna take up to 24 hours to propagate
[18:35] <zykotick9> sirninja: i don't have N-M installed, so i just replaced the eth with br in /etc/interfaces (there are additional setting to obviously)
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: how are you installing it?
[18:35] <ssta> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't.  Bridging is quite different to NAT
 i type the command into the terminal
[18:36] <theadmin> sbsin: What does "combine two applications" mean? That doesn't make much sense.
[18:36] <respond> Barbariandude, am have ready register on free dns
[18:36] <pjotter> Hello everyone! I am having some trouble with NFS (versions 4) on Ubuntu (10.04). I have mounted an external drive (NAS) with nfs. It workes fine with small files. But when I try to copy large files (for instance 1 Gb) some things go wrong. The first thing I notice is that de progress-bar of Nautilus starts at approximately 50%. While the file is being copied, the progress bar does not progress. When the copying is finished, I get an error,
[18:36] <nancy--> ssta,  isnt there an A to Z solution. from the site, ordering to cpanel. ?
[18:36] <respond> am used domain for access my home page
[18:36] <respond> am have foarward my ip
[18:36] <respond> 192.168.10.1 to that domain
[18:36] <sbsin> theadmin: sorry, join input/output.
[18:36] <respond> am have foarword to my publick ip to that domain
[18:36] <ssta> nancy--: I'm not sure what you are asking, sorry.  Try rephrasing it maybe?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> ssta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058695
[18:36] <respond> and what you can see...
[18:36] <Karmaon> Why is window dragging significantly laggier when having multiple applications in the background? There is plenty of ram left.
[18:37] <Barbariandude> respond, that's your internal IP address, which is different from the external IP that the internet sees.
[18:37] <sirninja> zykotick9: Any idea what could cause such packet loss on the host, yet have the guest working perfectly fine?
[18:37] <theadmin> sbsin: Oh... I'm not sure then, sorry
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: is it ok in Unity2D (I assume Gnome desktop with Unity shel)
[18:37] <zykotick9> sirninja: no idea at all, if you don't get assistance here, perhaps you could try #kvm channel?
[18:37] <nancy--> ssta,  there are ready made shoping cart sites . easy to install e.g opencart and ecommerce. is there a ready made solution for creating a webhost. that starts from ordering and ends to control panel ?
[18:37] <artichoku> ok so the "activities" thing is back, and i think i REALLY like it, except... how can i have more than one window up
[18:37] <Karmaon> ActionParsnip: I'd have to check
[18:37] <ssta> ActionParsnip: and?
[18:38] <respond> Barbariandude, what trouble again
[18:38] <artichoku> and my minimize/maximize buttons are gon on the titlebar
[18:38] <ssta> nancy--: oh.  I don't know of one, no
[18:38] <Barbariandude> respond, this is what the DNS services say your hosts IP address is, is this correct? 180.251.5.170
[18:38] <optikkore> hey so im experiancing a weird issue, if i disconnect my cat5 connection on my acer one, it freezes and on every boot up it will eventually freeze unless that hard line is there
[18:38] <zykotick9> artichoku: welcome to gnome3 ;)
[18:38] <ssta> nancy--: well, not a free one.
 when i do it, i end up getting a abiword with a code in it. I put that in the terminal, and i get another abiword.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> ssta: and what?
[18:38] <robert-km> Karmaon: Its not about ram, but cpu and gpu
[18:38] <ssta> nancy--: Plesk is kind of that, but it costs (although it's not too expensive)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> ssta: 'and?' isn't a question
[18:38] <artichoku> and even though desktop cube and rotate cube are enabled, there is no rotation
[18:38] <Silpelit> I"m using winetricks to download ie6 but the site for the download is down, can't access in either terminal or a browser. Is there a way to change the link to a different upload of the same file?
[18:39] <respond> correct :)
[18:39] <respond> Barbariandude, that right
[18:39] <Silpelit> Because I even have the ie6 download file, and one made specifically for linux, but it's not working correctly
[18:39] <ssta> ActionParsnip: you posted me a link which had nothing to do with ICS...presumably in support of your assertion that ICS and bridging are the same thing.  I was asking what your point was...
[18:39] <theadmin> Silpelit: Why on earth do you need that?
[18:39] <artichoku> so what do i do?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Silpelit: IE runs badly in wine. There is ies4linux but if you are testing websites for IE compatibility I suggest you run a virtualbox
 have any ideas?
[18:39] <Silpelit> It's a dependancy thing, I have no plans on using ie at all
[18:40] <Barbariandude>  respond, that means that your router must be blocking connections (probably). You need to set up a DMZ or port forwarding.
[18:40] <zykotick9> Silpelit: and there was never a "ie6.. one made sepecicially for linux (sic)"
[18:40] <Silpelit> yes there is
[18:40] <Silpelit> sec
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> ssta: if you read the content, it actually shows you how to make a bridged connection in the interfaces file in /etc/networking
[18:40] <yitz_> Hi. Any clue where Ubuntu stores the mapping for ethernet device to name (eg eth0) stuff?
[18:40] <Silpelit> Not a linux version, but a package that installs it easily
[18:40] <Silpelit> I've got 3 people respond and nothing regarding my question
[18:40] <theadmin> yitz_: Not stored anywhere really. If you need to have a specific node for a specific device, write an udev rule.
[18:41] <ssta> ActionParsnip: yes, I see that.  What does that have to do with ICS?
[18:41] <nancy--> ssta,  freepanel.org is no more .          ispconfig is one . but is it like plesk ? http://www.ispconfig.org/ispconfig-3/screenshots/
[18:41] <oCean> yitz_: see //etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> yitz_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/change-eth1-to-eth0-815620/
[18:41] <Silpelit> Is there a way to change winetricks to download from a different location
[18:41] <ssta> nancy--: similar I guess, yes
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> ssta: I thought you wanted a bridged connection, is that not right?
[18:41] <zykotick9> Silpelit: running IE on gnu/linux has never worked well (regardless of versions).  IE6 is way outdated at this point.  Using a VM would probably work better for testing/etc.
[18:41] <yitz_> theadmin: Meh. I got an image that got that info cached in it so eth0 is "taken" when I drop the image on a new machine. I want to clear that cached into so the device gets eth0 and not eth0_rename
[18:41] <theadmin> Silpelit: Winetricks is a shellscript.
[18:42] <ssta> ActionParsnip: no, that was someone else...who you sent a link about ICS to.  I was protesting that ICS and bridging are not the same thing
[18:42] <zykotick9> Silpelit: you could try teh #winehq channel?
[18:42] <jeremiah_> how come when i try to install java runtime, it never works?
[18:42] <rebe> why ubuntu ask me for keyring every time I log in ?
[18:42] <Silpelit> zykotick9: Thank you very much! That's useful, I"ll do that now
[18:43] <zykotick9> rebe: you have autologin enabled, and it needs to unlock the wireless key(s).  Disabling auto-login in one way to correct.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> ssta: sorry, crossed wires
[18:43] <oCean> yitz_: you can edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to map your nic's mac address to eth0
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> rebe: to unlock it, if you set a blank keyring it won't bother you
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: how are you installing it?
[18:44] <yitz_> oCean: I suppose. I was hoping I didn't have to manually shove MACs in on every node
[18:44] <jeremiah_> i type the command into the terminal
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what command?
[18:44] <ssta> yitz_: if you empty the file in the master, then it will get repopulated in each node
[18:44] <martyn_t> Hi guys/gals. I am sure this is in the help files somewhere but how do I add (e.g. terminal application) to the dash launcher? Ta.
[18:44] <rebe> actionparsnipL how do I change that keyring to blank
[18:44] <yitz_> ssta: Exactly what I'm looking for! The /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> martyn_t: you can make a .desktop file and put it in /usr/share/applications
 something like sudo apt install java or something like that
[18:45] <orvar> how do I stop ubuntu from going to sleep after x minutes of inactivity?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: that won't work
[18:45] <ssta> yitz_: yes.  I have a VM template that had that problem.  Solution was to leave it as an empty file in the template and then the instances fill it up
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what is the output of:  uname -a
[18:45] <jeremiah_> well its not exact.
 what?
[18:45] <yitz_> ssta: Thanks. I love you!
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: paste it to terminal and hit enter, what is output?
[18:46] <ssta> yitz_: umm, you're welcome :)
 uname -ajeremiah@jeremiah-Dell-DE051:~$ uname -a
[18:46] <jeremiah_> Linux jeremiah-Dell-DE051 2.6.38-13-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 28 19:23:39 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:46] <jeremiah_> jeremiah@jeremiah-Dell-DE051:~$
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> ssta and yitz_  sitting in a tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G
[18:46] <Silpelit> If anyone is curious, the winetricks for ie7 works fine. Problem solved.
[18:46] <yitz_> I was looking for a cache file. I didn't realize udev wrote it's own rule file
[18:46] <owenll> orvar: system settings -> power
[18:46] <martyn_t> Cheers ActionParsnip.
[18:46] <yitz_> ActionParsnip: Feel free to join us
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: sweet, and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> yitz_: BOOM!
[18:47] <excelsior> how do I tell ubuntu to open .tex files with Kile instead of emacs?
[18:47] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip> natty
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: ok, I'll give you script to get you oracle java 1.7_02
[18:47] <rebe> I guess that setting blank keyring isn't safe ?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> rebe: its fine
[18:48] <excelsior> !OT
 ok
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: works here :)
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: the last few lines put the plugin in the chromium plugins folder, you can change that if you use a different browser
 got a meesage bash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/: No such file or directory
[18:49] <orvar> owenll, it's set to "don't suspend" but it still suspends
[18:49] <mongy> ActionParsnip, there is ppa for it now I believe, webupd8
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> mongy: not sure of the licensing though ;)
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: run the commands one by one
[18:50] <owenll> orvar:  how about system settings->screen?
[18:50] <orvar> could it be the screen saver -> lock screen that stops my music?
 what do you mean?
[18:51] <mongy> ActionParsnip, ah, it's just a script to install it and not a pre-packaged product.  nvm
[18:51] <oCean> jeremiah_: use your browser to view the script at http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: copy the 2nd line and paste it to terminal, when it finishs copy line 3 and run that, and so on...
[18:51] <mongy> ActionParsnip, like the flashplugin-installer.
[18:51] <ssta> it does a better job of installing it though
[18:51] <auronandace> jeremiah_: you don't put : http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/ in a terminal
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> mongy: the java license is a bit weird which is why its not in the ubuntu repos any more
 so i....
[18:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i believe mongy is trying to say it's a script to download from oracle, similar to how flashplugin-install works.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> oh, I guess
[18:52] <markyxxxz> Hi! What is the meta-package to install if I want to rebuild/reinstall my Ubuntu for "missing" or "corrupted" drivers/files/etc?
[18:53] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: ubuntu-desktop i believe
[18:53] <markyxxxz> That is, without touch the desktop.
[18:53] <markyxxxz> touching*
[18:53] <ssta> largely, OpneJDK works for most things these days...and will become better
 i got it
[18:53] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: Hmmm....
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> ssta: hope so :)
 i got it.
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: simples
[18:54] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: Will it not install over my current and entire ubuntu?
[18:54] <ssta> ActionParsnip: Oracle are making it the reference implementation for JDK7
[18:54] <rcmaehl> I have a keyboard and some of the keys show up as /dev/input/event3 while the keyboard is /dev/input/event2. How do I make the system recognize the keys on /dev/input/event3? The keys show up in showkey but not xev
[18:54] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: maybe, but that's the main meta-package involved
[18:54] <jeremiah_> t<ActionParsnip> his will work on lubuntu right?
[18:56] <rcmaehl> The keycodes are 418, 419, 442, 364, 466, 467, 468, 469, and 470
[18:56] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: unless you went to great lengths to removing something with a package manager, OR manually deleted stuff - then it's unlikely you're missing any packages from ubuntu-desktop (it's a hard meta-package to crack)
[18:56] <markyxxxz> OKay what about if I want to rebuild/reinstall the entire Xserver thing only? Is it safe to assume that keyboard,mouse and touchpad is controlled by Xserver?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: works in any Linux distro you can name
[18:56] <artichoku> im having so much trouble
 good.
[18:56] <artichoku> i was trying to enable my other monitor
[18:56] <artichoku> it said i had to save my config file, and i did
[18:57] <artichoku> now everything looks all forked up
[18:58] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: The thing is I lost my keyboard and touchpad. I can regain the mouse (it's wireless) by pluggin-unpluggint it on GDM. That's about it. I do not understand how Ubuntu cannot make the keyboard and touchpad work.
[18:58] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: what is your real issue then?  keyboard/mouse not working?
[18:58] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: Note the keyboard is not really dead, a few laptop function keys work e.g. WIFI key still working, etc
[18:58] <rcmaehl> The keys do work
[18:58] <Girffe> Hey, I'm new to using ubuntu, I want to rename my Documents folder to documents so that it's easier to navigate through the terminal
[18:59] <rcmaehl> I've tested them in MS windows
[18:59] <Girffe> will renaming it cause problems?
[18:59] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: sorry, i don't have any real suggestions for you.  reinstalling xorg (or anything else for that matter) is unlikely to sove the issue though.
[18:59] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: yes. It has to be the X. That's the only thing I figure the damned ATI drivers wrote over and corrupted.
[18:59] <zykotick9> Girffe: it's probably NOT worth the effort, get used to upper and lower case ;)
[19:00] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: ATI - i'm out.  best of luck.
[19:00] <nicl> Hey all, probably an easy question, but I am stuck in a command on the command line and I don't know how to exit out of a command process without restarting terminal
[19:00] <rcmaehl> nicl: Ctrl+C
 on step 6 i got rm: cannot remove `./jdk-7u2-linux-i586.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[19:00] <markyxxxz> Okay what drives the keyboard and mouse? Anybody can point me somewhere?
[19:00] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: BTW, thanks :D
[19:00] <nicl> rcmaehl: ah great! That is exactly what I needed :) thanks
[19:01] <rcmaehl> clear
[19:01] <Girffe> Yeah, it's just that using the terminal is really nice for a lot of things over using the file browser, and doing small things like that make it a lot faster to navigate
[19:01] <nancy--> what are the most famous control panels for web hosting ?
[19:01] <Girffe> I just realized I can make a different folder anyway though, just going to use a separate folder called docs
[19:01] <Girffe> cheers
[19:01] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: keyboard/mouse is controlled by Xorg, you could check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if it exists and/or has settings for you.
[19:02] <Mazter10> hey
 on step 6 i got rm: cannot remove `./jdk-7u2-linux-i586.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[19:03] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: LOL I"m going around in circles here. :) In my substantial years of using Linux, I've never lost a keyboard or mouse, except when i PHYSICALLY pulled on the cable or tripped on it with my foot. :D LOL
[19:03] <mystik> where is the trash in ubuntu 11.10 i took off unity and put gnome classic on
 on step 6 i got rm: cannot remove `./jdk-7u2-linux-i586.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: no problem, you can just remove it yourself later, did the file download ok?
[19:04] <hydrox24> markyxxxz: synaptics? foro synaptic touchpads of course
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: no need to repeat, I saw the first time...
[19:05] <respond> am install timeviewer after am put root password no respond anythinks
[19:05] <respond> why
  yes and ok
[19:05] <Viliny> Anyone have any good guides somewhere on how to force local clients to use the servers squid proxy?
[19:05] <hydrox24> respond: how are you installing timeviewer?
[19:06] <respond> hydrox24, yes
[19:06] <respond> hydrox24, am download .deb and double click on it
[19:07] <mystik> can sometbody tell me wheres the recycling bin in ubuntu 11.04 gnome
[19:07] <zykotick9> respond: is it really "timeviewer" (or teamviewer)
[19:07] <markyxxxz> hydrox24: what about synaptics?
[19:07] <mystik> 11.10
[19:07] <hydrox24> ok, and nothing happens after you enter your password? I suggest you try using the command line package as that will be more liekly to give us errors so we can debug.
[19:07] <Swiss_Ninja> hai
[19:07] <zykotick9> !trash | mystik
[19:07] <respond> zykotick9, teamviewer
[19:07] <zykotick9> respond: i'm shocked ;)
[19:08] <markyxxxz> hey guys, is #xorg the help channel? That's the first thing I found on Google.....
[19:08] <respond> zykotick9, sorry miss type
[19:08] <mystik> thank u
[19:08] <mystik> zykotick9, thanks
[19:08] <Swiss_Ninja> roger roger over
[19:08] <Swiss_Ninja> computer overload sir
[19:08] <respond> Barbariandude, did hare ?
[19:09] <Swiss_Ninja> No, i'm not getting a reading
[19:09] <respond> any body can help how to run well teamviewer on my ubuntu? am have get .deb file of that
[19:09] <Swiss_Ninja> I can
[19:09] <Swiss_Ninja> what's your question?
 ok i did it all now what?
[19:10] <Swiss_Ninja> Try clearing your cache.
[19:10] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: you really should be trying to get support here (as it's pretty ubuntu specific most likely).  (if this started because of installing ATI, then perhaps if you moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup or something and restarted X, you might get your keyboard/mouse back, but loose 3d video)
[19:10] <hydrox24> respond: can you try using the command line (dpkg?)
[19:11] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: xorg.conf is not present. I've purged all fglrx related files.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: did you selecthe java binary to be java for you?
[19:11] <mystik> hydrox24, r u talkign with me
what?!
[19:11] <HermanDE> Is anybody running a tproxy system using shorewall?
[19:12] <mystik> what does ... mean
[19:12] <mystik> in linux
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you will see a menu as part of the install asking you to choose the java binary
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> respond: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/teamviewer-7-beta-available-for-linux.html
[19:12] <markyxxxz> What is the correct apt-get options to pull a package form the repos and overwrite everything on ones install? Do I have to purge first or I need to "install --reinstall"?
 like if you manually do it or it does it for you?
[19:13] <zykotick9> mystik: . is present directory; .. up one level; ... i have no idea
[19:14] <Ascavasaion> I have had Ubuntu 10.04 onmy machine for a while and done all updates.  but now my Grubloader has about 10 different kernel versions to boot.  How do I uninstall the older kernels and free up some hard disk space and unclutter the Grub as well?
[19:14] <zykotick9> Ascavasaion: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" will list all your installed kernels, uninstall the ones you don't want (they'll automatically be removed from grub)
[19:15] <Ascavasaion> zykotick9: Thank you.
[19:15] <Swiss_Ninja> we have an issue with the system.
[19:15] <Zepp_> omg
[19:15] <markyxxxz> Ascavasaion: You can do it easily on USC without fear of getting the wrong comand. Just as effective.
[19:15] <Zepp_> am I on #ubuntu
[19:15] <Zepp_> I need HELP
[19:15] <Zepp_> okay here
[19:15] <Zepp_> I have Windows 7
[19:15] <ChristopherNg> Zepp_: what is the problem?
[19:15] <Zepp_> I installed ubuntu
[19:16] <zykotick9> !enter | Zepp_
[19:16] <HermanDE> Zepp_, Wrong room....
[19:16] <Zepp_> qq
[19:16] <Zepp_> please refer me please
[19:16] <ChristopherNg> Zepp_: please be clear what the problem is first
[19:16] <Zepp_> I can't boot into Windows
[19:16] <Zepp_> it says
[19:16] <Zepp_> Error: No such partition
[19:16] <Zepp_> grub rescuer: _
[19:16] <zykotick9> !enter > Zepp_
[19:16] <ChristopherNg> Zepp_: did you delete the windows parition?
[19:17] <ai6pg> Zepp_: is that a problem ? ;-)
[19:17] <CyberDawg> Zepp_, oops
[19:17] <dan457> ouch
[19:17] <ChristopherNg> ai6pg: its a problem if he wants to game i guess
[19:17] <CyberDawg> its only a problem if you want to run windas
[19:17] <HermanDE> It's a good thing.  No need for the microsoft cruft anymore.
[19:17] <cgfree> exit
[19:18] <kah> when i install virtualbox and run ubuntu on it, everytime i shut it seems to lose the work i had previously done (.. install ruby on rails)
[19:18] <kah> why is that
[19:18] <ssta> kah: are you running the live image maybe?
[19:18] <zykotick9> kah: are you using the livecd or a VM's HD?
[19:18] <markyxxxz> most likely the live cd
[19:18] <kah> image
[19:18] <kah> iso
[19:19] <ssta> kah: you need to install to a HD then
 on step nine i get a error
[19:19] <kah> suggestions?
[19:19] <helpdesk> Im looking for a https front end for a weak http webserver. in other words im looking for a machine that can sit inbetween the insecure http server and provide a https interface to the outside world
[19:19] <switchtech> yetch had to change my name
[19:20] <HermanDE> switchtech, check out pound
[19:20] <kriestof> Hi, I need to use some linux live cd. I will be using g++, vim, some web browser and have to configure wifi. Will Ubuntu live cd be proper?
[19:20] <switchtech> HermanDE: is that a channel?
[19:20] <HermanDE> switchtech, It's an applicaton.
[19:20] <switchtech> aah
[19:20] <switchtech> brb
[19:20] <iceroot> kriestof: ubuntu live-cd does not have vim and g++ installed by default
[19:20] <HermanDE> switchtech, More like a reverse/forwarding proxy system
[19:21] <iceroot> kriestof: you have to install when the system is running
[19:21] <zykotick9> iceroot: well vim-tiny ;)
[19:21] <HermanDE> switchtech, It's very simple and ensures proper http coms.
[19:21] <iceroot> zykotick9: vim-tiny == vi
[19:21] <Sherlock_> is there a channel related to ubuntu on mac or am I in the right place?
[19:21] <zykotick9> iceroot: agreed
 on step nine i get a error
[19:21] <switchtech> HermanDE: thanks, ill check it out...
[19:21] <iceroot> kriestof: but you can installed a system to a usb-drive for example
[19:21] <kriestof> iceroot: So every time after reboot, I will have to install it again?
[19:22] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: always specify the error or link to it on pastebin, thanks.
[19:22] <iceroot> kriestof: correct
[19:22] <auronandace> jeremiah_: he left
[19:22] <iceroot> kriestof: install the system to an usb-drive, much better
 mv: cannot stat `/home/jeremiah/jre1.7.0_02/': No such file or directory
[19:22] <Ascavasaion> Okay, I removed all the excess kernels using sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.32-XX-generic (XX = version numbers), then I ran sudo update-grub2.  Are there any other files like headers, source, etc that I can remove?
[19:22] <zykotick9> kriestof: if you have a usb (and systems that boot usb) you can install a full ubuntu onto a usb key.
[19:22] <kriestof> iceroot: does it take a lot of time?
[19:23] <bucaneiro> the usb drive install isnot working for me...
[19:23] <iceroot> kriestof: the usb-installation?
[19:23] <kriestof> iceroot: Yes.
[19:23] <g0bl1n> 12
[19:23] <iceroot> kriestof: the same time as a normal hdd installation, 10-30 minutes
[19:23] <CAPITALISMUS> bill gates is going to spy kids at school http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/01/29/1446236/gates-paying-murdoch-for-system-to-track-us-kids-school-progress
 the link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/
[19:23] <iceroot> CAPITALISMUS: stop it
[19:23] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: just catching up with the previous parts of the conversation. sorry
[19:24] <zykotick9> iceroot: same time, you must be kidding, installing to usb take MUCH longer.
[19:24] <iceroot> zykotick9: no
 its ok
[19:24] <iceroot> zykotick9: depending on the drive of course
[19:24] <kriestof> iceroot: :o so I make typical installation and in devices I'll see my pen drive device?
[19:24] <iceroot> kriestof: correct
[19:25] <zykotick9> iceroot: USB even USB2 is SLOW compared to sata/ide.  then flash storage devices are often a limiting factor as well.  Installs to USB are slow.
[19:25] <iceroot> zykotick9: usb-drive == ssd
[19:25] <sharkmap> thinking about installing ubuntu on my main desktop. I have 3 drives. Vista is on a 150GB drive with 1 partition. I have two other hard drives. 1.5GB with 1 partition and 2GB with 2 partitions, 1.7GB and 300GB. all boot info is on the 150GB drive. Can I install a dual boot with ubuntu on the 300GB partiton with all boot info on that partition? or does must write to the 150GB drive? thanks for any info.
[19:25] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: You said something about step 7... what instructions are you following?
[19:25] <g0bl1n> Usb goes through cpu
[19:25] <zykotick9> iceroot: if it's going through USB it'll still be slow
[19:25] <OerHeks> !nounity
[19:25] <kriestof> zykotick9: But sometimes you havent choice
[19:25] <iceroot> zykotick9: USB2 can do 480MBit/s, a normal hdd can make 80MByte/s
[19:25] <zykotick9> kriestof: agreed
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/821651/
[19:26] <sharkmap> does the install
[19:26] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: thanks, won't be a second
[19:26] <kriestof> iceroot: can I have installation on pendrive where I want to install system?
[19:26] <iceroot> kriestof: ?
[19:27] <zykotick9> kriestof: you can't install onto your install media no.
[19:27] <kriestof> zykotick9: ok, thanks
[19:27] <kriestof> and iceroot too
[19:27] <iceroot> zykotick9: also remeber a usb-drive is much faster on read/write access then a hdd
[19:27] <iceroot> zykotick9: so there is no big difference in usb or hdd
[19:28] <zykotick9> iceroot: usb is faster then nothing ;)  it's slow, believe what you wish.
[19:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: my system here is running on usb
[19:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: trust me
[19:28] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: If you go into you home dir, can you find the file that is simlarly named to the one the commmand is trying to move, and change the command in the script to match?
[19:28] <acicula> iceroot: just cause you can does not mean its fast
[19:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: do some hdparm-benchmark on a usb-drive and a hdd and you will see
[19:28] <phpN00b> in gnome3 there is a small system tray at the bottom of the screen. Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch to one of those application ¨minimize¨?
[19:28] <iceroot> acicula: do some hdparm-benchmark too
 i'll try.
[19:29] <iceroot> acicula: and i am only saying that is it not MUCH slower then a hdd
[19:29] <acicula> oh but it is
[19:29] <sharkmap> can you install ubunto dual boot onto a different drive than the other OS?
[19:29] <acicula> usb2.0 is 480Mbit, the sata 1 interface is 1.5Gb/s, 3 if you have sata 2
[19:30] <acicula> if you attach a disk via usb2.0 its the usb connection that is slowing things down, not the harddrive
[19:30] <iceroot> acicula: show me one hdd which can handle 3gb/s
[19:30] <hydrox24> phpN00b: those applications arent so much minimized as they are "available to giv you alerts", atleast that
[19:30] <zykotick9> iceroot: from my testing, hdparms on usb gives very strange results (i wouldn't trust them if i where you).  Testing a variety of USB and SD cards gave wildly diverse results, retesting the same USB would often get very different results as well.
[19:30] <kriestof> oh guys one more question. Maybe I'm able to install my Ubuntu system on USB somehow without using boot device(usb or CD)?
[19:30] <hydrox24> phpN00b: atleast that is my understanding. It's more like those little tiny icons next to the clock in windows.
[19:30] <iceroot> acicula: hdparm on my sata-drive is showing 87MByte/s
[19:31] <Ascavasaion> Any ideas on what can be removed to make HDD space?  I have removed old Linux kernels.  Anything else that hangs around after upgrades etc.?
[19:31] <iceroot> acicula: my usb-drive is giving me 49MByte/s
[19:31] <hydrox24> Ascavasaion: try: sudo apt-get autoclean
[19:31] <zykotick9> Ascavasaion: "du -h /var/cache/apt"
[19:31] <iceroot> acicula: with much faster read/write access, so i dont see the BIG difference
[19:31] <hydrox24> Ascavasaion: It cleans out cached .deb files and the like
[19:32] <zykotick9> Ascavasaion: by du command will be low after running hydrox24 command ;)
[19:32] <iceroot> acicula: as / its much more important to have fast read/write then a high transfer-rate.
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: use bleachbit carefully as root and your user with as many apps closed as possible
[19:32] <Karmaon> I'm guessing laggy window dragging is gone in gnome
[19:33] <acicula> iceroot: 49Mbyte/s from a usb2 connection sounds more like an error then an actual speed
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: depends on config
 sorry but i have to go. i will try when i have time and if i bumb into you again i will let you know.
[19:33] <iceroot> acicula: 480MBit/s / 8 = 69Mbyte/s (theoretical max)
[19:33] <iceroot> acicula: 480MBit/s / 8 = 60Mbyte/s (theoretical max)
[19:34] <hydrox24> jeremiah_: that's OK
[19:34] <iceroot> acicula: its just a matter of quality of the usb-memory
[19:34] <theadmin> err... How is USB transfer speed an Ubuntu support issue?
[19:35] <iceroot> theadmin: installing ubuntu on usb is a support issue
[19:35] <Ascavasaion> Thank you guys.
[19:35] <theadmin> iceroot: Ah, I see then.
[19:35]  * theadmin runs her OS off a USB drive and never encountered any major slowness
[19:35] <theadmin> Then again, I use Openbox...
[19:35] <iceroot> theadmin: same here (both) :)
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: the max is 80Mbps, so its not bad. USB 1.1 max is 12Mbps
[19:36] <Gos> good day to you all
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Hi gos
[19:36] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: 480MBit/s / 8 = 60MByte/s
[19:36] <theadmin> iceroot: I see, heh, that's a nice coincidence xD
[19:37] <Viliny_> theadmin, russian?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Misread. D'oh
[19:37] <iceroot> so running / on usb2 is not a problem, you dont need high transfer-rates for / normally, you want fast read/write like a ssd is offering
[19:37] <theadmin> Viliny_: #ubuntu-ru
[19:37] <Viliny_> no, are you russian?
[19:37] <iceroot> have a look at iotop, you will never see something more then a few MByte/s
[19:38] <auronandace> Viliny: that isn't a support question
[19:38] <theadmin> Viliny_: Yes, but that's irrelevant.
[19:38] <phpN00b> to type ¨ I have to press on the ¨ key twice. why?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: pciexpress storage is awesome though :-)
[19:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes :)
[19:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but hard to find on my netbook :)
[19:39] <Viliny> theadmin, i think you taught me ruby :)
[19:39] <DJones> phpN00b: I suspect that will be down to your keyboard layout, if the keyboard layout you're using has "sticky keys on", then thats the default behaviour
[19:39] <theadmin> Viliny: Could be, heh, I don't remember much, talk to way too many people recently
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: there is a 1.2tb pciexpress storage for 2 arms and 2 legs
[19:40] <theadmin> Viliny: Either way, let's take that to either a PM session or stop it, this is offtopic
[19:40] <switchtech> theadmin: good to see your still online..
[19:41] <theadmin> switchtech: I am, why wouldn't I be?
[19:41] <phpN00b> DJones, how do I disable sticky key?
[19:41] <danny_> is anyone having problems with connecting to other machines via lan?
[19:41] <dak0> lol. theadmin IHRL
[19:41] <switchtech> theadmin: not important, just good to see
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: blackout...
[19:41] <auronandace> theadmin: may i pm you?
[19:41] <hydrox24> phpN00b: try under the accessibility options
[19:41] <theadmin> auronandace: No problem. dak0: What? ActionParsnip: Not in here.
[19:41] <dak0> xD
[19:42] <dak0> IHRL
[19:42] <switchtech> HermanDE: multiple props, that was exactly what i was looking for...
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: ask a silly question...
[19:42] <theadmin> dak0: No idea what that means...
[19:42] <iceroot> danny_: no
[19:42] <HermanDE> switchtech, I've been using it for way too many years.
[19:42] <HermanDE> switchtech, Back to "KISS"...
[19:42] <phpN00b> hydrox24, sticky key is turned off
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest77902
[19:43] <switchtech> HermanDE: A vendor that was consulted was trying to charge 40k, this will save much money...
[19:43] <dak0> hope you wont get mad or hurt, :D
[19:43] <danny_> iceroot: both ubuntus?
[19:43] <HermanDE> switchtech, Nice.  Bet he was going to *yet again* recreate the wheel.
[19:43] <iceroot> danny_: sure
[19:43] <iceroot> danny_: its good to ask the real question instead of "does anyone have something like this"
[19:44] <iceroot> !details | danny_
[19:44] <switchtech> HermanDE: Using a cannon to kill a mosquito
[19:44] <HermanDE> switchtech, pound does some amazing load balancing between web servers.
[19:44] <CAPITALISMUS> ActionParsnip: my linux box has lots of programs that connect to the network as root
[19:45] <switchtech> Looks like... and very easy to config... im building the second config now... a couple of head nods and this thing is going into beta.
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: yes but its necessary for some. Irc doesnt need it plus its a bad idea
[19:45] <danny_> iceroot ubottu : ok whenever i try to mount my other laptop in the nautilus' Network folder I get the "Unable to mount location: timed out by message bus. Ubuntu and Linux Mint. Both Natty
[19:45] <DJones> phpN00b: Sorry, lost connection then, if you';re on 11.10, its an option under universal access
[19:45] <hkjh> hello, which kernel is stable for ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[19:46] <theadmin> !find linux-image-generic lucid | hkjh
[19:46] <theadmin> err
[19:46] <phpN00b> DJones, I checked it. it is disabled
[19:46] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic lucid | hkjh
[19:46] <Guest52943> i need bots or nix
[19:46] <danny_> iceroot ubottu have samba, apache2 and all other nec packages to show
[19:46] <phpN00b> DJones, it prob has to do witht he keyboard layout
[19:46] <CAPITALISMUS> why is it necessary ?
[19:46] <iceroot> danny_: so you are using samba to build a share between two linux-machines?
[19:46] <hkjh> thank you theadmin and ubottu
[19:47] <CAPITALISMUS> people  even try to run them in chrooted jails
[19:47] <ugarte> root
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: things like updates will need the access as they are changing the OS in a big way
[19:47] <ilpollo> hi,please the spanish chanel , thanks
[19:47] <CAPITALISMUS> like say apache
[19:47] <bruce927> I'm on 11.10 64 bit with an intel 4500m, but it according to System Info, my Graphics are unknown. I've got the intel xorg package installed, though. Any idea what's up?
[19:47] <switchtech> HermanDE: Did you check your local machines for this http://blog.zx2c4.com/749
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> !es
[19:48] <danny_> iceroot, right now am trying with gnome-user-share
[19:49] <HermanDE> switchtech, Looks nasty....  Thanks for the pointer.
[19:49] <CAPITALISMUS> ActionParsnip: i get it its for security reasons then
[19:49] <DJones> phpN00b: The only time I've seen that problem, it was something related to the keyboard layout similar to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/56560/what-exactly-is-meant-by-eliminate-dead-keys
[19:49] <neurochrome> can anyone tell me why 'about ubuntu' is telling me I'm running natty, when I'm still on 10.10?
[19:49] <switchtech> HermanDE: Its a local exploit only, but its vicious for privledge escalation. many distros still unpatched...
[19:50] <HermanDE> switchtech, I'm helping a friend fire up about 300 ubuntu workstations.
[19:50] <HermanDE> switchtech, This will become very important.
[19:50] <phpN00b> DJones, i THINK i NEED TO REBOOT FOR THE CHANGES TO EFFECT
[19:50] <zykotick9> neurochrome: in a terminal try "lsb_release -a"
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> bruce927: sounds like your monitor isn't reporting edid like it should. You may need an xorg.conf file to accommodate it and set the res etc
[19:50] <switchtech> HermanDE: SweetJesus!
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: also remember the target audience of ubuntu.
[19:51] <neurochrome> zykotick9, yeah 10.10
[19:51] <DJones> phpN00b: I'm not sure how to disable the dead keys on 11.10 though
[19:51] <bruce927> Well that's a bugger, it's on a laptop
[19:51] <neurochrome> zykotick9, although I just cat /etc/lsb-release
[19:51] <HermanDE> switchtech, Yep.  I'm fighting tproxy with shorewall.
[19:51] <CAPITALISMUS> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> neurochrome: what kernel do you have?
[19:51] <CAPITALISMUS> whats the target audience of ubuntu?
[19:51] <bruce927> Also reporting I only have experience set to standard, ActionParsnip
[19:51] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, Linux neuromancer 2.6.35-32-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 23:31:33 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:52] <HermanDE> switchtech, Ubuntu want's to be bleeding edge...  Yet the QA on some of the less known packages simply sucks hard.
[19:52] <zykotick9> neurochrome: neuromancer the book is sitting on my desk right now :)
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: ubuntu is aimed at new Linux users, so helping them form good habits is advantageous
[19:52] <switchtech> HermanDE: That is very true, Do you use webmin at all for cluster administration?
[19:52] <neurochrome> zykotick9, which book?
[19:53] <zykotick9> neurochrome: the book "neruromancer"... never mind ;)
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic natty
[19:53] <neurochrome> zykotick9, ahhh! ;)
[19:53] <bruce927> Yet I still appear to have compiz effects running
[19:53] <HermanDE> switchtech, At one time it was slick and awesome.  Now, I'm looking at nfs shared configs.
[19:53] <DJones> phpN00b: Just something to check, are you on 11.10? If so, open dash and enter keboard and run the keyboard layout program
[19:53] <HermanDE> switchtech, Makes things much easier to manage.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> neurochrome: interesting
[19:54] <neurochrome> zykotick9, ooops, just read you message again... me getting confused! (easily done!)
[19:54] <CAPITALISMUS> ActionParsnip: i thought ubuntu didnt had a target audience or was aimed at any one in particular
[19:54] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, it is isn't it!
[19:54] <phpN00b> DJones, yes, I am on 11:10 x64
[19:54] <DJones> phpN00b: What language does it say its using?
[19:54] <switchtech> HermanDE: there is a hitch with webmin also, you have to make sure to nuke Webmin users along with normal accounts. Else its a short backdoor to regain access...
[19:54] <zykotick9> !webmin
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: all Linuxes have a goal or aim
[19:54] <switchtech> HermanDE: Just a thought...
[19:54] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, also my FF just got bumped up to 9.01... I'm guessing that was a planned update for maverick users?
[19:54] <phpN00b> DJones, the old setting has ¨Death key¨ in the keyborard layout name
[19:54] <CAPITALISMUS> yes to take over the world
[19:54] <fdewe> Hello. Is it possible to remove the transparent panel on the right and move the panel on top to the bottom?
[19:54] <phpN00b> I changed it but I need to reboot for it to take effect
[19:54] <LjL> !ot
[19:55] <DJones> phpN00b: Yes I think you will need to reboot for the setting to take effect
[19:55] <Seryth> I downloaded a .deb file, installed the program, and now I want to remove it. However, if I double click the deb, the only option I get is "re-install". How do I remove it?
[19:55] <markyxxxz> Linux for human beings <-- that's the target
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> neurochrome: maverick dies in April. I can't see many more updates coming after a while
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: use software centre
[19:55] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, yeah when EOL hits, well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it
[19:56] <CAPITALISMUS> so linux isnt target at animals^?
[19:56] <CAPITALISMUS> i men ubuntu
[19:56] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: It's not in the software center. I can't see it when I search for it...
[19:56] <LjL> CAPITALISMUS: please stay on topic
[19:56] <pikaciu> Seryth: or synaptic
[19:56] <HermanDE> switchtech, And to make things even easier, we are talking about moving to Linux Terminals....
[19:57] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, what distro/version are you using?... Just out of curiosity
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> CAPITALISMUS: i don't think they have the ability although I've see ipad apps for cats
[19:57] <switchtech> HermanDE: Torvalds would be proud..
[19:57] <markyxxxz> CAPITALISMUS: No the animals target the humans... :D that's why Ubuntu uses animal nicknames, e.g. Lucid Lynx, Natty Narhwal
[19:57] <LjL> ActionParsnip: how about we drop this?
[19:57] <CAPITALISMUS> my lil ponny
[19:57] <Seryth> pikaciu: Okay ty.
[19:58] <pikaciu> ActionParsnip: yea.... he is very funny !
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> neurochrome: now, android 2.1 (phone) at home i use lubuntu and xpud :-)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Ljl: you got it
[19:58] <kaipreshaw> how do i get KDE desktop on ubuntu 11.04 GNOME
[19:58] <LjL> !kde | kaipreshaw
[19:58] <phpN00b> is it possible to modify the context menu according to the file extension?
[19:58] <kaipreshaw> how do i get KDE desktop on ubuntu 11.04 GNOME with out kubuntu
[19:58] <phy1729> What ip route command should I run to set the gw for eth1 but still have the default route be eth2 / what is a good tutorial for the ip command?
[19:58] <kaipreshaw> !lubuntu
[19:59] <CAPITALISMUS> hey a friend of mine tells me the that in new ubuntu the mouse will be deprecated
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> kaipreshaw: sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[19:59] <LjL> CAPITALISMUS: stay on topic. last warning.
[19:59] <pikaciu> ActionParsnip: on youtube you can see a kitten trying to catch a mouse
[19:59] <Seryth> pikaciu, ActionParsnip:Nope, I can't uninstall the package with software center or with synaptic...it's not listed?
[19:59] <markyxxxz> What's the proper way to reconfigure X on Ubuntu? It seems dpkg-reconfigure is not effective anymore.
[19:59] <markyxxxz> kaipreshaw: install the KDE meta package I assume
[20:00] <theadmin> markyxxxz: X -configure as root while X is not running?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !info plasma-desktop
[20:00] <pikaciu> Seryth: are you sure is installed ?
[20:00] <switchtech> h
[20:00] <Seryth> pikaciu: It's in my applications list and i can run it.
[20:00] <stephenh> !ban CAPITALISMUS
[20:00] <markyxxxz> theadmin: On recovery mode. My input devices won't work.
[20:00] <CAPITALISMUS> hey will the new kernel update break my proprietary graphics card driver?
[20:00] <theadmin> CAPITALISMUS: If you're using dkms, no
[20:01] <neurochrome> ActionParsnip, xpud, that's a new one for me... anyhow I'm off, guessing it's a bug...
[20:01] <stephenh> so obviously trolling...
[20:01] <varikonniemi> hello, can anybody tell me how hard it would be to support the hiding of window decorations unity has in maximizing a window?
[20:01] <pikaciu> Seryth: did you type the app name in synaptic search bar ?
[20:01] <LjL> stephenh: we don't ban on request
[20:01] <Merley> Can I make initscript somehow delay the start of something?
[20:01] <Merley> For 30 seconds or so
[20:01] <Seryth> pikaciu: Yes.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: there is a way to switch display using export to where X isn't running
[20:01] <phy1729> .quit
[20:02] <stephenh> LjL: i know, i joke.
[20:02] <andai> My ubuntu PC is networked with my family's windows computers. I'd like to set it up as the main place to store music, over the network. What's the best way to do this? Samba?
[20:02] <entreri> Hey there, in what version of ubuntu we can access the new HUD UI ?
[20:02] <stephenh> it would be interesting if you did though..
[20:02] <phpN00b> I can not find truecrypt in ¨open with"of the context menu
[20:02] <stephenh> andai: it's probably the only way
[20:02] <varikonniemi> entreri, precise pangolin
[20:02] <pikaciu> Seryth: try dpkg -- help
[20:02] <yeats> !hud | entreri
[20:02] <markyxxxz> Guys, what's the proper way to reinstall/reconfigure X on Ubuntu?
[20:02] <varikonniemi> or even 11.10 if you install experimental unity 5.0
[20:02] <markyxxxz> Guys, what's the proper way to reinstall/reconfigure X on Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:02] <andai> stephenh: I've had limited success streaming files over FTP with VLC, I was hoping there was some exciting new ( windows compatible ) technology since then
[20:03] <andai> Samba it is then? :)
[20:03] <stephenh> andai: nope
[20:03] <stephenh> i wouldn't use ubuntu
[20:03] <stephenh> although you can
[20:03] <trism> varikonniemi: do you mean in say, gnome shell or fallback? if so this works: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Hide_titlebar_when_maximized
[20:03] <pikaciu> Seryth: try dpkg -- purge
[20:03] <stephenh> www.amahi.org/
[20:03] <stephenh> check them out
[20:03] <entreri> varikonniemi: thanks
[20:03] <stephenh> linux based too
[20:03] <FloodBot1> stephenh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <stephenh> you can add their repo's and install it onto an ubuntu machine if you really want
[20:03] <stephenh> but just seems like more work
[20:04] <stephenh> of course if you like ubuntu... you won't mind the effort ;)
[20:04] <markyxxxz> Guys, what's the proper way to reinstall/reconfigure X on Ubuntu 11.04? <--- anybody?
[20:04] <varikonniemi> trism, i mean that when a application renders in a window
[20:04] <biohazard135> hey, what does "deinstall" mean in dpkg?
[20:04] <varikonniemi> can i tell that application/window to drop the titlebar?
[20:04] <icimabue> in gnome 3, does anyone know how to choose a setting where the min, max, close buttons are to the right?
[20:04] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: do you have an xorg.conf currently?  do you need to edit it?  do you need an xorg.conf file?
[20:04] <andai> stephenh: The website seems to tell you to install fedora and then amahi... or is there a more direct approach I'm not seeing?
[20:05] <Seryth> pikaciu: Thanks
[20:05] <switchtech> biohazard135: The package is selected for deinstallation (i.e. we want to remove all files, except configuration files).
[20:05] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: to generate one, you could use "X -configure :1" if server is already active.  But that's kinda the old-school method of configuring Xorg.
[20:05] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: No. I'm going to use Intel.By default xorg.conf is not needed. I just need to knw the proper way to reinstall and reconfigure everything.
[20:06] <pikaciu> Seryth: you're wellcome
[20:06] <switchtech> biohazard135: for more information #man dpkg
[20:06] <test_>  I need to know how to seperate an account from it's root (if that makes sense)
[20:06] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: Hmm I haven't tried that.
[20:06] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: is that X or xinit?
[20:06] <BTaylor927> Does gxlgears max out at 60 fps?
[20:06] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: X
[20:06] <test_>  example when i type sudo -s I get cam@julien
 How do i get rid of the @ julien
 I'm trying to encrypt my main sudo folder but it wont let me as it sayd 'im still logged in (despite using cam)
[20:07] <zykotick9> markyxxxz: it might require sudo, and try to see where it places the config file
[20:07] <owenll> icimabue: i used 1d here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=86813
[20:07] <RobbyIppo> Ciao
[20:07] <RobbyIppo> !list
[20:07] <zykotick9> !it | RobbyIppo
[20:07] <Nach0z> test_: that's the computer name. try sudo -i instead of just sudo'ing the command
[20:07] <phpN00b> how do I set Epiphany as default browser?
[20:07] <markyxxxz> zykotick9: That could work.
[20:07] <stephenh> andai: hold on
[20:08] <stephenh> i think they even have an ubuntu based version to download
[20:08] <stephenh> i'll have a look
[20:08] <stephenh> 1 sec
[20:08] <markyxxxz> How about replacing the packages, is it necessary to purge first then reinstall, so as to wipe everything clean or will the reinstall take care of that?
[20:09] <markyxxxz> I believe my X settings are all screwed, especially the part on the input devices.
[20:09] <zykotick9> phpN00b: if you are using gnome/unity then install galternatives and using it's GUI interface to edit x-www-browser and gnome-www-browser might work
[20:09] <Seryth> pikaciu: I can't see the remove flag?
[20:09] <stephenh> http://www.amahi.org/faq#does-amahi-support-ubuntu
[20:09] <Flannel> markyxxxz: If your settings are messed up, you want to purge.  Reinstall just removes/installs, which assumes you know what you're doing re: settings.
[20:09] <damselfly9> markyxxxz, have you tried xorgconfig?
[20:09] <icimabue> owennll: thanks, i'll check it out.
[20:09] <mongy> markyxxxz, open dash and type preferred
[20:10] <stephenh> andai: http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/Ubuntu
[20:10] <stephenh> there ya go
[20:10] <markyxxxz> Flannel: yeah, was trying to get confirmation if purge is necessary. thanks
[20:10] <BTaylor927> I tried installing unity 5.0 in 11.10, how can I tell which version I have? I tried echo $DESKTOP_SESSION, but it only tells me I'm using unity 3d, not which version of unity is running
[20:10] <atpa8a> hello
[20:10] <stephenh> i thought they now shipped a version of their OS on ubuntu but apparently not
[20:10] <stephenh> my mistake
[20:10] <pikaciu> Seryth: try dpkg -- purge
[20:10] <markyxxxz> mongy: X is screwed. Dash won't be of any help
[20:10] <BTaylor927> Can't see any difference, so I'm not sure if I'm still running the default 11.10 version or the newer 5
[20:10] <switchtech> markyxxxz #man xrandr
[20:10] <stephenh> i still haven't gotten to play with it much, but it really does look like a great piece of software
[20:11] <switchtech> if you need to look up more info online use lynx
[20:11] <mongy> markyxxxz, sorry wrong person :)
[20:11] <n28> Hai hai hai hai!
[20:11] <andai> stephenh thanks :D
[20:11] <atpa8a> why do i see *multiple* 'Starting OpenSSH Server'/'Stopping OpenSSH Server' during boot in 11.10?
[20:11] <madrid> jvnnvnvv
[20:11] <zykotick9> switchtech: does xrandr have anything to do with input devices, i though it was only resolution stuff
[20:11] <madrid> wscbvg b
[20:11] <markyxxxz> mongy: OH ok :D
[20:11] <madrid> ok
[20:11] <stephenh> andai: np ;)  should do everything you need.. and more
[20:11] <andai> stephenh It sounds like a bit of overkill though i'm basically just looking for a shared drive
[20:11] <stephenh> andai: oh
[20:11] <stephenh> haha
[20:11] <switchtech> zykotick9: good point.
[20:11] <stephenh> yeah ok, then just use samba
[20:11] <madrid> en spañol
[20:11] <switchtech> just saw the comment about x being messed up.
[20:11] <andai> stephenh So what are some cool things amahi can do
[20:11] <stephenh> this is a full media solution, cross platform
[20:12] <stephenh> andai: well i have an xbox and a dlna client on my phone for example
[20:12] <zykotick9> !en | madrid
[20:12] <stephenh> so i can stream to either as the xbox has a dlna player
[20:12] <stephenh> as does my phone
[20:12] <zykotick9> !es | madrid
[20:12] <stephenh> it transcodes media on the fly (similar to mediatomb i guess)
[20:12] <zykotick9> madrid: sorry for the first one, type
[20:12] <madrid> okyes
[20:12] <stephenh> http://www.amahi.org/features
[20:12] <stephenh> it's just all round great
[20:12] <Seryth> pikaciu: Aha! Thanks. I was trying `dpkg --purge foo.deb` instead of `dpkg --purge packagename`. Thanks!
[20:12] <n28> I HAV
[20:13] <stephenh> if i hadn't put xbmc on my atv, i probably would've put amahi onto a vm
[20:13] <markyxxxz> switchtech: I think xrandr is more on displays. The X being messed up is on input devices :D
[20:13] <madrid> no because is imposible
[20:13] <madrid> nooo
[20:13] <pikaciu> Seryth: at your service :P
[20:13] <switchtech> markyxxxz: Whoops
[20:13] <Seryth> pikaciu: :)
[20:14] <andai> stephenh: Okay, Thanks. i'll be keeping my eye on it! We only have PCs at the moment :D
[20:15] <stephenh> andai: no hassle
[20:15] <stephenh> it's definitely overkill for just a file share
[20:16] <n28> Real programmers use Vi.
[20:16] <stephenh> +m?
[20:16] <pikaciu> n28: and emacs ?
[20:17] <On-The-Fly> @pikaciu: I prefer notepad.exe through WINE. So feature-rich
[20:18] <n28> I don't like Notepad. I've used it, but it just didn't feel right.
[20:18] <junction> Hi folks.
[20:18] <pikaciu> On-The-Fly: i'll give it a try. tx
[20:18] <kaipreshaw> !ask | junction
[20:18] <kriestof> iceroot: one more thing... How itll work on USB 1.0?
[20:19] <zykotick9> On-The-Fly: to bad the only MS text editor that creates text files is "edit" none of the ^C or whatever garbage
[20:19] <LjL> kaipreshaw: bit overkill for a greeting...
[20:19] <pikaciu> On-The-Fly: i had a nightamre experience with codeblocks
[20:19] <zykotick9> pikaciu: notepad.exe files in gnu/linux will be an issue!
[20:19] <n28> !patience
[20:19] <sudo_dirk> hiho. does anybody know how to enable the middle mouse button on pressing left and right synchronous?
[20:20] <kriestof> How will work Ubuntu installed on USB 1.0?
[20:20] <kaipreshaw> :L
[20:20] <kriestof> Will it be better to install it on pen or just live cd?
[20:20] <pikaciu> zykotick9: true.... it displays a lot scambles
[20:20] <LjL> kriestof: on a USB 1.0 mass storage device? it'll be slow as hell.
[20:20] <junction> I'm running XFCE. I would like to know if it is possible that the action "moving a window to the border of the screen" resizes it (half size on the side, full size on the top), instead of moving it to the next desktop. Anybody have ideas for that?
[20:20] <dr_willis> you can do a fyll normsl install to a flash drive
[20:20] <iceroot> kriestof: usb 1.0/1.1 is not a good idea as a installation-medium
[20:21] <dr_willis> usb 1 ewww...
[20:21] <kriestof> so better find some other live cd and just boot it?
[20:21] <kriestof> as I said I need g++, vim, web browser
[20:21] <iceroot> !remaster | kriestof
[20:21] <LjL> kriestof: well, CD is sorta slow too
[20:21] <sudo_dirk> on ubuntu 10.10 it worked, after updating to 11.04 and also 11.10 my middle mouse button is gone.
[20:22] <yumbo> kriestof, are you sure it's usb 1.0 and not usb 2.0?
[20:22] <kriestof> well it transfers with 1MB/s speed
[20:23] <yumbo> kriestof, it's probably still USB 2
[20:23] <kriestof> ok, anyway speed will be enough?
[20:24] <kriestof> to use it...
[20:24] <dr_willis> try and see
[20:24] <yumbo> kriestof, probably not, why not buy a 8gb stick for 15 bucks that's fast?
[20:24] <kriestof> problem is I have only a few hours:)
[20:25] <n28> Real programmers use USB 3.0. Just saying.
[20:25] <dr_willis> 16 gb flash $18 on sale the other day
[20:25] <kriestof> and lap probably without fast USB port
[20:25] <beeejaaay> !list
[20:26] <nancy--> i have some texts files in a folder with words on each line. how do i join them all and make one single file containing all the data ?
[20:26] <dr_willis> cat a b c > abc
[20:27] <nancy--> dr_willis,  or cat * > abc ?
[20:27] <dr_willis> bash basics :)
[20:27] <zykotick9> nancy--: the * "might" not give the order you expect
[20:27] <nancy--> dont need the order atm
[20:28] <yumbo> nancy--, best to ask would be #bash in the future
[20:28] <dr_willis> a read of some bash guides is good idea
[20:29] <xxiao> ooimpress can open pptx files but can not show graph inside?
[20:30] <nancy--> dr_ i cannot cd new folder          it has a space in between. thats why ?
[20:30] <stephenh> i didn't think there was software on linux for powerpoint?
[20:30] <georgieee> Does anyone plays "Lord Of The Rings" using PyLotro?
[20:30] <zykotick9> nancy--: do you know how to deal with spaces?
[20:30] <stephenh> or am i thinking of a decent visio replacement?
[20:30] <yumbo> nancy--, put it in quotes
[20:31] <nancy--> zykotick9, no
[20:31] <stephenh> nancy--: new\ folder or in quotes
[20:31] <nancy--> ok
[20:31] <shisha42>  77.71.14.254
[20:31] <stephenh> \ escapes the space
[20:31] <zykotick9> nancy--: "double quotes work" or/ escape/ the/ spaces
[20:31] <stephenh> or other interesting characters like ()
[20:31] <zykotick9> nancy--: sorry fail it \
[20:31] <Flannel> You can also tab complete, that'll take care of escaping for you.
[20:31] <zykotick9> nancy--: see Flannel above
[20:32] <pikaciu> or change the name in gonme
[20:32] <guntbert> xxiao: pleas ask in #openoffice.org
[20:32] <nancy--> Flannel,  zykotick9  none is working
[20:32] <pikaciu> or change the name in nautilus
[20:32] <phpN00b> is there a gtk native firefox version?
[20:33] <Flannel> nancy--: type `cd new[tab]` and it should complete to `cd new\ folder`
[20:33] <Flannel> nancy--: be sure you're typing 'new' and not 'New' (unless it is "New Folder"), things are case sensitive.
[20:33] <Si2100> Guys, can i connect Ubuntu to Windows Home Sever 2011 ?
[20:34] <shisha42> erver 77.71.14.254
[20:34] <acerimmer> !samba|si2100
[20:34] <Si2100> Thanks
[20:36] <WXZ> help, I permadeleted everything off an NTFS partition in ubuntu. how do I get it back?
[20:36] <tim167> hi, can anyone help me get a Wacom Bamboo CTL-470 working on ubuntu Oneiric?
[20:36] <WXZ> I unmounted the partition.
[20:36] <zykotick9> phpN00b: i believe Firefox uses gtk by default.  "apt-cache depends firefox" should show libgtk.
[20:37] <nancy--> how to delete duplicate words in a file ?    each word is on each line ?
[20:37] <pikaciu> WXZ: unmount or delete ?
[20:38] <rj11> Hello
[20:38] <WXZ> pikaciu: I deleted the directories off the partition, then unmounted the partition to be sure not to write anything to it
[20:38] <zykotick9> nancy--: i bet you could do it with the uniq command
[20:38] <WXZ> pikaciu: deleted accidentally*
[20:38] <georgieee> Does anyone play Lord Of The Rings? PyLotro doesnt update. Can someone help?
[20:38] <nancy--> zykotick9,  which unique command ?
[20:38] <phpN00b> is there an ubuntu one client for Windows?
[20:38] <georgieee> *Lord Of The Rings Online
[20:38] <zykotick9> nancy--: "uniq" see "man uniq"
[20:39] <On-The-Fly> @phpN00b: yes there is
[20:39] <nancy--> kk
[20:39] <nancy--> zykotick9,  i heard cat or grep can do it
[20:40] <zykotick9> nancy--: cat i doubt has that feature, grep manybe
[20:40] <pikaciu> WXZ: what grub says at restart ? and what fstab says ?
[20:40] <phpN00b> I still can't manage to set Epiphany as default browser in Gnome3 :-(
[20:41] <nancy--> zykotick9,   i wanted to index it a to z too
[20:41] <zykotick9> nancy--: "sort"
[20:41] <WXZ> pikaciu: I don't have grub visible when I restart I only have ubuntu so there's no point
[20:42] <WXZ> pikaciu: I can easily remount the partition if I want to, I'm trying to recover deleted data
[20:42] <On-The-Fly> @phpN00b: I had a similar problem with SRWare Iron a long time ago. Ended up changing several things that I don't recall anymore. But one was to edit the (in your case) Epiphany.desktop with some lines that the other browsers have to make it popup in www-alternatives
[20:43] <phpN00b> I don't udnerstand. I ahve to pay 4 usd a month for 20GB online storage for my phone. Why would I do that? I can easily get a 32GB sd card for about 40euros.
[20:43] <WollensakT1500> Hello, I'm running 10.10 on a loop device and am wondering how to change the size of said device from 20G to 30-40G
[20:43] <phpN00b> Ubutnu one should come up with somehting like 100Gb for only 5 usd a month
[20:43] <rj11> Does anyone know when "apt-get upgrade" will include GCC 4.7? 4.6.1 lacks quite a few features.
[20:43] <Guest28606> phpNOOb, you could lose it
[20:44] <phpN00b> Guest28606, unlikely
[20:44] <zykotick9> rj11: after a release, packages don't usually get version increases.  that's not how debian/ubuntu works...
[20:44] <On-The-Fly> phpN00b: you can access it from different devices no matter where you are.
[20:44] <Guest28606> phpN00b: just saying, you were having problems understanding why someone might pay for online storage
[20:45] <phpN00b> On-The-Fly, same I can say since it is a sdcard
[20:45] <LjL> can we go back to the topic of Ubuntu support?
[20:45] <WollensakT1500> Guest28606: For backup purposes, that why I have dropbox
[20:46] <brobeans> which channel would be appropriate to get help cracking an archive? (my own archive - forgot password)
[20:46] <rj11> zykotick9: Crap... thanks for the info! :)
[20:46] <WollensakT1500> Hello, I'm running 10.10 on a loop device and am wondering how to change the size of said device from 20G to 30-40G
[20:46] <LjL> brobeans: err i don't know, ##crypto maybe. what sort of archive is it? ZIP is easy to crack, RAR much harder, for example
[20:47] <wojtek> hi
[20:47] <BaD_BoY> hi
[20:47] <WollensakT1500> wojtek: hi
[20:47] <WollensakT1500> BaD_BoY: ji
[20:47] <WollensakT1500> BaD_BoY: hi*
[20:47] <On-The-Fly> @LjL: why is that? Doesn't it depend on the algorithm used?
[20:47] <BaD_BoY> help
[20:47] <asif> hi all
[20:47] <BaD_BoY> is
[20:47] <wojtek> how can I connect to upnp (media tomb) from banshee?
[20:47] <BaD_BoY> free acound shells
[20:47] <WollensakT1500> BaD_BoY: What do you need help with?
[20:47] <Guest28606> anyone able to suggest a good room to get some help with a java/ ubuntu camera problem
[20:47] <LjL> On-The-Fly: yeah, and ZIP uses a weak algorithm :P (at least last i checked)
[20:47] <LjL> !ot | BaD_BoY
[20:47] <pikaciu> WXZ: try tct packet
[20:48] <On-The-Fly> @LjL: I thought you could manually select the algorithm that you want to use
[20:48] <asif> anyone know why my contacts in hotmail.com are not showing up in evolution mail
[20:48] <brobeans> LjL: thanks
[20:48] <WXZ> pikaciu: I'm trying ntfsundelete, I'll get back to you in a second
[20:48] <LjL> On-The-Fly: you can of course, if you encrypt the archive afterwards. but if you just use ZIP/RAR's own "password" system, it uses whatever it uses
[20:48] <JeepCherokee> Hello, I'm running 10.10 on a loop device and am wondering how to change the size of said device from 20G to 30-40G
[20:48] <asif> i have an ubuntu one account synched
[20:49] <asif> but no contacts on there?
[20:49] <asif> i need my hotmail ones showing up
[20:49] <guntbert> !ubuntuone
[20:49] <asif> any ideas people
[20:49] <bobo37773> asif: Export your contacts from hotmail and then import them to evolution
[20:49] <acerimmer> asif: pretty sure ubuntu one does NOT link to hotmail  You'd have to manually import
[20:49] <biohazard135> switchtech: sorry i was afk, i looked in man dpkg and couldn't find anything covering how to completely remove the package.
[20:50] <biohazard135> mysql-server messed up and i need to completely get rid of it.
[20:50] <brobeans> ubuntu 11.10, programs can take a while to load, in general. meaning 5/10 seconds wait before program launches. most common reason? more rammage?
[20:50] <biohazard135> brobeans: how much ram do you have?
[20:50] <phpN00b> On-The-Fly, found the place to set default application
[20:51] <phpN00b> oneliner, it is in settings->system information -> default application
[20:51] <On-The-Fly> @LjL: I think that's only the options you see within the default small GUI. If you use the CLI, it looks a lot different. Same goes for the GUI in Windows
[20:51] <phpN00b> kind of weird place to put that option
[20:51] <biohazard135> i'll reinstall lamp, see if that helps
[20:52] <brobeans> biohazard135: 2GB dd2 atm, dual core 3GHz. set up an independant pc for ubuntu
[20:52] <mongy> phpN00b, if you type preferred in the dash, does it give you a tool to set defaults?
[20:52] <guntbert> biohazard135: reinstalling seldom helps any
[20:52] <Mixxit> hello!
[20:52] <Mixxit> me again =)
[20:52] <biohazard135> brobeans: you should be fine, check "free -m" in terminal to see how much ram you have
[20:52] <Mixxit> i wondered how i can make vlc my default player
[20:52] <brobeans> biohazard135: thanks bro
[20:52] <biohazard135> guntbert: what is seldom? i installed lamp via apt-get, just mysql-server didn't quite work
[20:53] <switchtech> biohazard135: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge (package name)
[20:53] <brobeans> biohazard135: 600mb free ram
[20:53] <brobeans> :)
[20:53] <biohazard135> switchtech: thanks
[20:53] <acerimmer> Mixxit: Preferences>Preferred Applications...
[20:53] <Mixxit> where is preferences
[20:53] <guntbert> biohazard135: "seldom" is really "almost never" - you get the same settings you had before
[20:53] <acerimmer> Mixxit: system
[20:53] <switchtech> biohazard135: that is unless its a custom install from source
[20:53] <biohazard135> brobeans: yeah, that's fine, there might be another reason such as a slow disk
[20:54] <wojtek> do you know how to connect to media serwer (mediatomb) from banshee?
[20:54] <biohazard135> switchtech: no i use apt-get, i'm too much of a noob to compile lamp myself
[20:54] <owenll> Mixxit: System settings - system info - default applications
[20:54] <yughy> hello
[20:54] <Mixxit> ah thanks!
[20:54] <bobo37773> yughy: Hey
[20:55] <phpN00b> I modified the file epiphany.desktop. should I reload gnome?
[20:55] <switchtech> biohazard: What? its not that bad. ./configure, make, make install
[20:55] <brobeans> biohazard135: i'll dupe to a new disk see if that makes any difference. thanks for the info]
[20:55] <switchtech> unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes,fsck,fsck,fsck,umount, sleep.
[20:55] <Mixxit> hmm doesnt seem to be making a difference
[20:56] <bobo37773> phpN00b: Reload gnome because of editing a .desktop file? I doubt it is neccessary
[20:56] <biohazard135> switchtech: i know just then the modules for php & apache, i tried before to get everything to work :/
[20:56] <biohazard135> switchtech: i compiled skype myself, as it wasn't in the repo .. later found out it was.
[20:56] <owenll> Mixxit: restart or log in maybe?
[20:56] <guntbert> switchtech: why do you recommend compiling ?
[20:57] <Mixxit> ok thanks ill give that a go now!
[20:57] <switchtech> sometimes the repo servers are back a little on their updates. can lead to vulnerable packages until they commit
[20:57] <switchtech> guntbert: http://blog.zx2c4.com/749 <-- Great example
[20:57] <biohazard135> switchtech: i remember firefox 4 came out, days later it still wasn't on the repo
[20:58] <phpN00b> Epiphany is broken
[20:58] <bobo37773> phpN00b: What is wrong with it?
[20:58] <phpN00b> epiphany-browser -n google.com   still open google in my current tab\
[20:58] <phpN00b> it should open in a new tab
[20:59] <guntbert> switchtech: what has that to do with LAMP?
[20:59] <biohazard135> guntbert: im guessing php/apache hasn't been updated in the repos thus servers won't be updated
[20:59] <biohazard135> to be honest, i never check for updates (on apache.org) it's a lot easier to ssh in and just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:00] <biohazard135> so it's actually more secure for me
[21:00] <switchtech> guntbert: just an example, if they dont check you may want to. specially with the speed at which people are getting Pwned on the net...
[21:00] <switchtech> guntbert: its one mistake away from looking for a new job at some places....
[21:01] <biohazard135> switchtech: isn't that more because of bad php scripts than the actual server itself? i mean, LAMP is secure enough
[21:01] <switchtech> guntbert: because you should have known better
[21:01] <guntbert> switchtech: biohazard135: sorry, I didn't follow your whole conversation - I won't interfere any more :)
[21:01] <switchtech> biohazard135: not necessarily, this is some harry territory. but if your mustard... http://www.exploit-db.com/
[21:02] <switchtech> guntbert: glad you asked, now you know more...
[21:02] <biohazard135> switchtech: ooh, i can do some more testing
[21:02] <switchtech> biohazard135: be careful. that place can lead you quickly into harms way...
[21:03] <biohazard135> switchtech: ok so, lets assume theres a zero day exploit on apache, and the repo is a few days behind, how would you know apache actually patched it? do they have rss or something?
[21:03] <biohazard135> switchtech: i'd forget to check -.- anyway, almost done uninstalling lamp
[21:04] <pikaciu> bye
[21:04] <LunatyK> back
[21:04] <switchtech> biohazard135: its best to check some forums, you can pentest yourself with armatage if you like. however if you dont own the server you need authorization.... in writing ;)
[21:04] <hydrox24> biohazard135: switchtech maybe you guys want to go into a private chat? got no problem with public but you are very active, and only to each other
[21:05] <switchtech> biohazard135: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ <-- Again be EXTREMELY careful what you point that tool at...
[21:05] <ssta> switchtech: I'm far from convinved that telling someone who came in looking for advice on how to install a LAMP stack is going to be best served by compiling from source
[21:05] <wynn> Can someone help with setting up java sdk on Ubuntu 10.04
[21:05] <biohazard135> wynn: apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[21:05] <biohazard135> afaik that's the command
[21:05] <dlentz> !ask | wynn
[21:06] <realubot> biohazard135: "To get notification of when new security issues are fixed, join the Apache HTTP Server Announcements list": https://httpd.apache.org/security_report.html
[21:06] <wynn> I've got it installed, but it doesn't like when I use the standard libs
[21:06] <switchtech> ssta: to each his own, if you like the package repos and want to stick with them, choose your own adventure. i only stress hand installs as it increases knowledge of the application itself... and the terminal
[21:06] <realubot> wynn: Maybe you should try Sun's Java instead?
[21:06] <biohazard135> does anyone know if nginx is more secure than apache? i would use it for it's speed but it's annoying to get php to work with it.
[21:07] <switchtech> ssta: I work with way too many GUI administrators...
[21:07] <ssta> switchtech: whatever...I think steering people at lower levels of experience that way is counterproductive and more likely to lead them to making mistakes that comprimise their systems
[21:07] <wynn> ubottu: I thought I was, just being polite... the intent was for someone to give the answer.
[21:08] <switchtech> ssta: to each his own, at the end of the string it really is your sudo that makes it happen..
[21:08] <ssta> wynn: what in particular isn't working with openjdk?  Most stuff works fine.  The only things that don't are generally things that use unsafe backdoors to the JVM
[21:08] <realubot> wynn: Uninstall openjdk and install: http://superuser.com/questions/353983/how-do-i-install-the-sun-java-sdk-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneric
[21:08] <biohazard135> there is nothing wrong with compiling from source, just if you never check for updates it's a bad thing, if your a great sysadmin like switchtech, it's better to compile yourself.
[21:09] <realubot> wynn: Maybe that will solve your problem.
[21:09] <wynn> I get an error on import statements... I'm not sure if i have to adjust one of the path variables or something
[21:09] <ssta> biohazard135: if you have the time to keep up to date on thousands of packages, sure.  I have a life and a job :)
[21:09] <ssta> wynn: what import?
[21:09] <biohazard135> wynn: what packages do work (if any)
[21:09] <switchtech> biohazard135: thanks for the props, however a good sysadmin is one that never stops learning, or asking questions. I dont take ssta negatively
[21:10] <biohazard135> ssta: import io.*; that kinda stuff
[21:10] <ssta> biohazard135: io.* isn't a standard package
[21:10] <biohazard135> ssta: it isn't? o_O mind you i only just started learning java so i really have no idea.
[21:10] <wynn> realubot: this works with 10.04 as well? (your link)
[21:10] <ssta> biohazard135: java.io is...
[21:11] <biohazard135> ssta: oh.
[21:11] <switchtech> ssta: oooh give him the hungarian notation speech!
[21:11] <atpa8a> is it normal that it starts/stop openssh multiple times during start up?
[21:11] <wynn> ssta: import System.util.*
[21:11] <ssta> switchtech: umm, what?
[21:11] <ssta> wynn: umm, that's not a standard package
[21:11] <switchtech> ssta: joke, back to baseX
[21:12] <ssta> wynn: perhaps you means java.util?
[21:12] <realubot> wynn: Maybe Sun's Java was stilll in the repos f 10.04?
[21:12] <wynn> biohazard135: everything works, I just can't seem to develop with it. But all my java apps and web work fine.
[21:12] <recon_lap> is openJDK not recommended?
[21:12] <ssta> wynn: pastebin a class that doesn't work for me will you?
[21:12] <biohazard135> wynn: what do you mean not develop with it? does javac work (for instance)
[21:12] <wynn> ssta: really? I thought that came with the sdk 1.6?
[21:12] <ssta> recon_lap: openjdk is fine for anything that doesn't use J2EE...
[21:13] <realubot> wynn: That will work in Lucid too: https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java
[21:13] <ssta> wynn: nope
[21:13] <biohazard135> question: why is this room so empty yet so full. seriously, there must be 1000+ people here and only about 10 active people.
[21:13] <realubot> wynn: Look for yourself. The PPA contains a package för Lucid.
[21:14] <dlentz> biohazard135: maybe it's an xchat default
[21:14] <ssta> recon_lap: unless it's evil and is using stuff from sun.misc.Unsafe...which it shouldn't be.  Several J2EE appserver DO however...
[21:14] <wynn> ssta: your're right it is java.util. Let me see if that works.... I could just be having a moment...
[21:14] <switchtech> biohazard135: campers, they like to check the logs when they come back online...
[21:14] <itguru> I'm building a webserver using ubuntu, and I've run into an issue. I thought I had php working, as he site in /var/www renders php, but sites in /user/public_html do not - Where shall I start to fix this problem?
[21:15] <realubot> recon_lap: I've been told that OpenJDK will work but sometimes there is special situations where you'll need Sun's Java.
[21:15] <biohazard135> switchtech: major waste of bandwidth, someone on here should make a bot that kicks you after (x) mins inactivity.
[21:15] <mongy> biohazard135, people trying to get the best uptime ever
[21:15] <biohazard135> mongy: lol
[21:15] <hydrox24> mongy: are you serious?
[21:15] <recon_lap> ssta, good to know, as i am planning to learn java
[21:15] <mongy> I used to leave it logged in on my vps, but then my vps rarely but randomly decided to reboot
[21:15] <wynn> ok. yes I botched up the import. Sorry I learned c# first.... old habits die hard
[21:16] <mongy> anyway,  its ot
[21:16] <realubot> wynn: Maybe you'll have to uninstall OpenJDK befor installting Sun's Java from the PPA.
[21:17] <recon_lap> I'm having a problem with java marvin framework examples , get 'Unknown video format' when i try use the web cam
[21:17] <ssta> realubot: you can have both installed at once.  However, if you can get by with OpenJDK you're better off sticking to it.  The Sun JDK isn't auto updated, so you have to watch for security pacthes yourself
[21:17] <wynn> realubot: It was indeed user error. I have to learn java, so I wasn't sure if the SDK wasn't setup properly or if it was me. It was me.
[21:18] <wynn> Thanks everyone.
[21:18] <biohazard135> yeah that lamp stack did not install well, i just get HTTP 500 now
[21:19] <realubot> ssta: Ok.
[21:20] <switchtech> biohazard135: Here, if you want to make your own...
[21:20] <switchtech> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/irc-server.html
[21:20] <ssta> biohazard135: did you try installing from the repository?  What was the error?
[21:20] <biohazard135> ssta: no error, http 500 on a test page i made, i think it's mysql missing from php
[21:21] <biohazard135> switchtech: what? i don't want to run my own ircd.
[21:21] <ssta> biohazard135: how did you install the stack?
[21:21] <biohazard135> ssta: apt-get install apache2 php5-apache2 ..... usual stuff
[21:21] <biohazard135> ok php works fine, just not "mysql_connect"
[21:22] <WXZ> I have a directory in an ntfs partition, and I shift + deleted everything in it, how do I get it back?
[21:22] <switchtech> biohazard: that was from your earlier comment about kicking clients
[21:22] <ssta> biohazard135: does mysql_connect work if you run the php from the command line?
[21:22] <switchtech> biohazard135: if you want to go with the source... http://www.lamphowto.com/
[21:23] <biohazard135> ssta: haven't tried that, also i fixed it: missing "php5-mysql"
[21:23] <cdavis> Do I have to use the alternate installer to get whole disk encryption on 11.10?
[21:23] <biohazard135> i should really turn on errors
[21:23] <ssta> biohazard135: you know there's a tasksel task for lamp-stack?
[21:23] <john_____> Anyone know how to get the macbook pro fn keys to work with Awesome manager?
[21:23] <biohazard135> ssta: no, what is tasksel (i'm really new to linux, only ever ran it on a vps and used ssh for everything)
[21:24] <recon_lap> I'm having a problem with java marvin framework examples , get 'Unknown video format' when i try use the web cam.
[21:24] <ssta> biohazard135: it's a thing that can install a bunch of packages that fit together for a task, like mail-server, or lamp-server
[21:25] <ssta> biohazard135: sudo apt-get install tasksel; tasksel (and then pick lamp-server from the list)
[21:25] <ssta> biohazard135: also see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:25] <ssta> tasksel is the recommended way to get a lamp stack
[21:29] <WXZ> I have a directory in an ntfs partition, and I shift + deleted everything in it, how do I get it back?
[21:29] <biohazard135> ok one last thing, i did install phpmyadmin which put all the php in /usr/share/phpmyadmin and it's conf in /etc/phpmyadmin
[21:29] <biohazard135> do i need to actually need to mv the config? the apache.conf file has alias info
[21:30] <ssta> biohazard135: no, generally the package sets it up for you
[21:30] <ssta> biohazard135: http://localhost/phpmyadmin has always done the right thing for me
[21:30] <biohazard135> yeah, but /phpmyadmin doesn't show anything, and neither does grep -r phpmyadmin /etc/apache2/
[21:30] <biohazard135> ssta: i get 404
[21:30] <ssta> biohazard135: umm, the package would have asked you...did you tell it to configure for apache2?
[21:31] <biohazard135> ssta: yes
[21:31] <ssta> biohazard135: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
[21:31] <ssta> make sure it shows apache2 as being checked
[21:31] <ssta> biohazard135: if it still doesn't work, then that's a bug that should be reported
[21:31] <captbunzo> hey people. I've just installed Ubuntu on a new computer I've built and could use some help getting stuff just right with the graphics card / monitors.
[21:31] <biohazard135> ok im on the screen, apache2 or lighthttpd, the red square is over apache2, do i just hit enter?
[21:31] <ssta> space
[21:31] <ssta> to select it, there should be a * in there
[21:32] <ssta> space, then enter
[21:32] <biohazard135> ssta: oh, i pressed enter, yeah theres * now
[21:32] <LunatyK> Sup
[21:32] <captbunzo> is it ok to ask my questions here?
[21:32] <dreamy_> im tryng to run muse.. and i get an error that the midi sequencer is not started.. can anyone help?
[21:32] <ssta> biohazard135: that's why it wasn;t working then :)
[21:32] <LunatyK> captbunzo, ask away
[21:32] <captbunzo> cool.
[21:32] <dreamy_> the 1st error was a abou the jack server, i worked that out
[21:33] <captbunzo> I've booted up after the install and it seems that the screen is, um, overflowing a bit.
[21:33] <captbunzo> as in parts of what should be visible is off the screen.
[21:33] <biohazard135> ssta: yeah, ok that's my dev environment setup. it's been difficult moving from windows, my whole weekend has been trying to get everything up and running
[21:33] <captbunzo> does that make sense?
[21:33] <Neosano> captbunzo, push AUTO button on your monitor
[21:33] <ssta> biohazard135: yeah...don't worry, you're getting there.  It takes time to get comfortable in unix
[21:34] <captbunzo> Neosano: lol... lemme look for an auto button :)
[21:34] <biohazard135> ssta: windows 8 did it for me. the second i opened that start menu on the dev iso i knew it was time to move.
[21:34] <Neosano> captbunzo, if there's no such button you'd probably have to do it manually. But as I can see - it's not ubuntu fault :)
[21:34] <captbunzo> Neosano: sure it's not something wrong with the mode lines?
[21:35] <LunatyK> Wait Neosano it may not be Ubuntu but i have one question for captbunzo
[21:35] <LunatyK> captbunzo, desktop or netbook?
[21:35] <ModFather> Hi There, Good Day to all, i had Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric i install Haproxy from src with make > make install but i cant unistall it.. is any out of the box method?
[21:35] <captbunzo> LunatyK: desktop
[21:35] <LunatyK> Aight
[21:36] <zykotick9> ModFather: for next time, use checkinstall
[21:36] <LunatyK> Then you need to reset your monitor settings
[21:36] <captbunzo> running an Radeon HD 6850 with a pair of monitors
[21:36] <LunatyK> os[Linux 2.6.32-33-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58 (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 82.0% free] disk[Total: 141.2GB, 93.1% free] video[nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[21:36] <captbunzo> that seeemed likely to me...
[21:36] <mongy> ModFather, if you still have the folder you used to compile, then sudo make uninstall
[21:36] <mongy> ModFather, if not, then get it again, configure and make and then sudo make uninstall
[21:36] <captbunzo> these dang modern things don't seem to want to let me do that very easily...
[21:36] <ssta> biohazard135: well, not really sure about desktops...they all seem to be going in a direction I don't like...but I've never considered anything non-unixy for servers...Anyways, good luck with LAMP :)
[21:36] <biohazard135> oh btw, when i was on windows my external drive (which i carry everywhere) used bitlocker, naturally i disabled it before moving to ubuntu but is there anything similar?
[21:37] <mongy> ModFather, oh and use checkinstall in future like zykotick9 said.
[21:37] <biohazard135> ssta: i used to run windows server on a dedicated server, such a waste of time and money, i only had WAMP on it.
[21:37] <ssta> biohazard135: truecrypt?
[21:37] <Emery> So like, I want to use root account on Ubuntu, can anyone help ?
[21:37] <captbunzo> another question is whether it is more advisable to use the default ATI drivers, or the proprietary ones from ATI. any thoughts?
[21:37] <guntbert> !root | Emery
[21:38] <Neosano> well really there's a root user...
[21:38] <Emery> No i want to use a root account
[21:38] <ssta> Emery: usually a bad idea...why would you bother?
[21:38] <Emery> Because i'd like to
[21:38] <Emery> So who knows how
[21:38] <Neosano> XD
[21:38] <zykotick9> Emery: it's not supported here
[21:38] <guntbert> !noroot | Emery
[21:38] <Emery> Root please
[21:38] <Emery> anyone know how
[21:38] <mongy> biohazard135, for linux only I use cryptsetup and disk utility to encrypt the partition.
[21:38] <Neosano> Emery, you can go in user settings and unblock root
[21:38] <guntbert> Emery: stop
[21:38] <biohazard135> Emery: wait what do you want?
[21:38] <Emery> I want to use root acc
[21:38] <biohazard135> Emery: sudo su
[21:38] <zykotick9> Emery: it's not supported here
[21:38] <captbunzo> !root
[21:38] <Emery> not this sudo shit
[21:38] <Emery> I want to use root
[21:38] <guntbert> biohazard135: WRONG
[21:39] <Neosano> Emery, told you already.
[21:39] <Emery> bro
[21:39] <Emery> you didn't
[21:39] <captbunzo> love the output of !root...
[21:39] <Neosano> Emery, did.
[21:39] <Emery> ROOT accound
[21:39] <captbunzo> !wfm
[21:39] <Emery> account
[21:39] <Neosano> Emery, learn to READ.
[21:39] <FloodBot1> Emery: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <Emery> ROOT
[21:39] <ssta> Emery: the first link you were given tells you how...but seriously, there's never a need for it
[21:39] <Emery> LRN2READ
[21:39] <biohazard135> Emery: why do you want to use root?
[21:39] <guntbert> !ops | Emery
[21:39] <Neosano> Emery, <Neosano> Emery, you can go in user settings and unblock root
[21:39] <Emery> shut up
[21:39] <WXZ> I have a directory in an ntfs partition, and I shift + deleted everything in it, how do I get it back?
[21:39] <Emery> what the ?
[21:40] <Emery> I want to use root, just tell me how to activate it
[21:40] <guntbert> Emery: no, not here
[21:40] <ssta> Emery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:40] <Emery> i'm not asking you
[21:40] <biohazard135> Emery: can you just state WHY you want to use root?
[21:40] <zykotick9> Emery: it's not supported here (what part of this don't you understand?)
[21:40] <Emery> you clearly know nothing
[21:40] <Emery> i don't need to state why
[21:40] <Emery> I want to
[21:40] <Emery> That's reason enough
[21:40] <guntbert> biohazard135: stop discussing that please
[21:40] <Emery> guntbert, is a clear tard
[21:40] <Emery> Do you know anything ?
[21:41] <ssta> Emery: you've been given the link that has instructions on how to do it like 5 times at least...what more do you want?
[21:41] <AFNick> could I be next for help lol?
[21:41] <xangua> Emery: this channel does not encourage on using root, please stop
[21:41] <Emery> Then again you do use ununtu
[21:41] <captbunzo> anyone have any advice on how to convince my lovely monitors to display the image correct?
[21:41] <Emery> so.
[21:41] <recon_lap> wonder how ingnore works
[21:41] <Emery> Well i want to use root
[21:41] <Emery> OK
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Emery: Logging in as root is not supported here (period). Your language and attitude are not acceptable.
[21:41] <LunatyK> Emery use Slackware if you want root
[21:41] <Emery> shut up fag
[21:41] <Emery> what
[21:41] <captbunzo> I'd really like to believe you folks that it is a monitor and not ubuntu problem... however the monitor seems to think it's fine.
[21:41] <Nach0z> lol'd.
[21:41] <LunatyK> Ty
[21:41] <Neosano> Guys, I'm going to perform some kind of a presentation.. There's a tool called Ardesia, but it requires composition (and I'm on lubuntu). is there any other tool to do it? I simply want to draw and highlight things on my screen
[21:42] <ModFather> mongy: i tried, i get error it doesnt find unistall command ...
[21:42] <captbunzo> auto image adjust is greyed out in the menu (i.e. unselectable) and manual image adjust doesn't show anything useful.
[21:42] <ModFather> mongy: it doesnt had Configure inside it..
[21:42] <mongy> ModFather, just go through the procedures you went through when you installed it, except stop at the make install part.
[21:42] <AFNick> I assume someone here is an advanced Ubuntu user?
[21:43] <Neosano> AFNick, just ask your question
[21:43] <AFNick> for the command line, are the commands different between Linux distro's?
[21:44] <ssta> not usually...the odd one is all
[21:44] <captbunzo> LunatyK: could I bother you for a bit more help, please?
[21:44] <dan457> AFNick: only in regards to package management
[21:44] <AlanBell> AFNick: apart from the commands to install packages, mostly the same
[21:44] <zykotick9> AFNick: there are some different commands, and some commands have different arguments between versions - so yes
[21:44] <AFNick> how about between Ubuntu and CentOS
[21:44] <ModFather> mongy: i install by typing: make TARGET=linux26
[21:44] <xangua> Neosano: http://www.ubuntips.com.ar/2011/02/22/xcompmgr-alternativa-a-compiz-para-maquinas-con-pocos-recursos/ xcompmgr gives basic composite (shadows, efects)
[21:45] <acicula> AFNick: those use a different package manager and some of the configuration under /etc may be different as well
[21:45] <dan457> AFNick: yes, yum and apt-get
[21:45] <Neosano> xangua, is it going to be simple to disable it after that?
[21:45] <LunatyK> Yes captbunzo
[21:45] <LunatyK> Whats seems to be the prob?
[21:45] <AFNick> what exactly is YUM...Im having trouble finding info
[21:45] <ssta> not sure if CentOS is using upstart yet...there was talk of it ages back
[21:45] <captbunzo> strangely, I get the same problem at a normal terminal, not just in X.
[21:45] <acicula> its a package manager like apt-get only for rpm instead of deb
[21:45] <AFNick> but it works the same way?
[21:45] <xangua> Neosano: yes, just kill xcompmgr
[21:46] <LunatyK> AFNick, yes it does
[21:46] <ssta> similarly
[21:46] <Neosano> hmm :\
[21:46] <Neosano> I'll try it
[21:46] <FishFace> Right clicking on the top bar which has the clock on it does nothing. How can I add stuff to it like in the old versions?
[21:46] <xangua> there is a wiki on arch web if you don't get spanish https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xcompmgr
[21:46] <AFNick> I have my job interview for a linux support technician job at a webhosting company..and 99% of thier servers run CentOS
[21:46] <acerimmer> AFNick: yum is teh pacakge installer in centos/fedora
[21:46] <xangua> Neosano * see what i said above
[21:47] <ssta> AFNick: you don't think you'd be better off in a centOS channel then?
[21:47] <acicula> AFNick: yeah centos is pretty common for some reason, despite yum being quite horrible
[21:47] <mongy> AFNick, I think indepth knowledge of yum is not high priority in such a job role.
[21:47] <captbunzo> how do I find out what X is currently using as configuration for resolution, etc?
[21:47] <ssta> acicula: yum is awesome compared to what they had before yum arrived... :)
[21:47] <AFNick> well Ive been spending the past week working on my command line....but I was using it on Ubuntu and found out they were using CentOS
[21:47] <Neosano> xangua, wewt, thanks :D
[21:48] <ssta> AFNick: the two are close enough that it won't matter much
[21:48] <dan457> AFNick: Load up centos in a virtualbox and play with it for a wile before your interview
[21:48] <acicula> ssta: well true i suppose
[21:48] <LunatyK> captbunzo, im not to familiar with Ubuntu
[21:48] <AFNick> Im downloading it now...Im just really nervous for this next interview
[21:48] <dan457> AFNick:
[21:48] <biohazard135> does anyone know how to stop empathy from expanding the window horizontally when I'm typing a message?
[21:48] <ssta> AFNick: just be hnest that much of your experience is on Ubuntu, so it might take you a few days to get used to CentOS instead and you'll be fine
[21:48] <ModFather> mongy : i install it with : make TARGET=linux26 .. and it doesnt had configure inside
[21:48] <Neosano> xangua, any way to configure it? like a gui?
[21:48] <captbunzo> I've used linux for years... this shouldn't be this hard!
[21:49] <mongy> ModFather, I'm not sure then.
[21:49] <AFNick> well thanks guys. Im gonna go install CentOS and try it out. Thanks!
[21:49]  * LunatyK is used to SlackWare 13.37
[21:49] <acicula> good luck
[21:49] <dan457> AFNick: good luck
[21:49] <LunatyK> Eh
[21:50] <ssta> captbunzo: xwininfo -root
[21:50] <LunatyK> What is CentOS like?
[21:50] <captbunzo> thx ssta
[21:50] <mongy> ModFather, can't you do the make, sudo make install  and then sudo make uninstall anyway?  It might remove whatever  it did with make TARGET
[21:50] <ssta> captbunzo: might be --root, I don't recall.  Check the manpage
[21:50] <dan457> LunatyK: rebrande redhat
[21:50] <dan457> rebranded
[21:51] <orvar> the system is changing my screen brightness with regula intervals, and discards my manual setting
[21:51] <LunatyK> ssta, it would be xwininfo --root
[21:51] <orvar> how do I disable that behaviour?
[21:51] <captbunzo> ssta: -root did the trick
[21:51] <LunatyK> dan457, is it good?
[21:51] <ssta> yeah, -root.  Cool
[21:51] <recon_lap> WXZ , have look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery , google is your friend
[21:51] <ssta> LunatyK: why would it be?
[21:51] <dan457> LunatyK: as a stable server? yes.
[21:51] <WXZ> recon_lap: I've been doing that for the past while
[21:52] <dan457> LunatyK: i on't care for it as a desktop, but thats personal preference.
[21:52] <recon_lap> WXZ, so what bit not working, specific question more likely to get answers
[21:52] <LunatyK> Well becuz for one ssta if you want to run xwininfo as root you would use -root if you --root it logs in to root but you dont use root commands
[21:52] <captbunzo> I really think I need to inform X a bit more about the monitor
[21:52] <keith_linux123> what programing lanugage should i start with ?
[21:52] <LunatyK> dan457,  im used to Slackware not any other really
[21:53] <captbunzo> feeling like mucking about with the xorg.conf file.
[21:53] <LunatyK> Perl keith_linux123
[21:53] <Neosano> keith_linux123, depends on your needs
[21:53] <LunatyK> True
[21:53] <captbunzo> if I change that, how do I get it to take effect? do I have to reboot?
[21:53] <acicula> why Perl?
[21:53] <LunatyK> But if you want practice start with perl or python they are the easiest
[21:53] <LunatyK> Unless you can do Ruby
[21:53] <WXZ> recon_lap: ok, for example, with ntfsundelete I never get the names of the files, and how do I search a specific directory.. I don't need to search the whole partition
[21:53] <ssta> LunatyK: umm, WHAT?!
[21:53] <LunatyK> acicula, go use SlackWare and you will tell a bight difference
[21:54] <LunatyK> ssta
[21:54] <LunatyK> Have you hacked into your own computer using it?
[21:54] <ssta> < LunatyK> Well becuz for one ssta if you want to run xwininfo as root you would use -root if you --root it logs in to root but you dont use root commands
[21:54] <acicula> LunatyK: i dont follow
[21:54] <LunatyK> ssta
[21:54] <LunatyK> Pm me
[21:54] <LunatyK> I will explain it a lil deeper
[21:54] <ssta> LunatyK: I think you should go look up what xwininfo -root does.
[21:54] <keith_linux123> i just need to learn now
[21:54] <keith_linux123> ill install the perl compiler though
[21:55] <LunatyK> ok keith_linux123 try using perl or python
[21:55] <LunatyK> They will help you learn
[21:55] <ssta> LunatyK: that statement was wrong in absolutely every respect I can think of
[21:55] <kubanc> is there any terminal command that you can see window size of a program?
[21:55] <LunatyK> Not really ssta
[21:55] <LunatyK> Becuz for one
[21:55] <ssta> LunatyK: yes, really!
[21:55] <LunatyK> HAVE YOU USED SLACK!
[21:55] <LunatyK> If not
[21:55] <keith_linux123> is it easier then C++
[21:55] <FloodBot1> LunatyK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <WXZ> how do I scan a specific directory with ntfsundelete?
[21:55] <recon_lap> WXZ: well maybe the filenames are gone and your just going to have to wade through the files you can recover. I'm no expert.
[21:56] <ssta> LunatyK: xwininfo -root doesn't do anything different on slack than it does on Ubuntu.  Please don't pretend to know stuff you don't
[21:57] <WXZ> recon_lap: that wouldn't be a problem if I could recover files from a specific directory, but I don't know how to search a single directory with ntfsundelete
[21:57] <LunatyK> Well if its not that different then damn i guess ubuntu was a build off from Slackware :) becuz Ubuntu is nothing like SlackWare. SlackWare you build your own shit. Ubuntu you have most of it
[21:57] <captbunzo> years ago there used to be a tool to manually adjust the current mode settings in X
[21:57] <zykotick9> WXZ: if ntfs is anything like ext - directories aren't real, they're just pointers in the file system table.  When doing recovery, i doubt it will show the directory structure.  Best of luck.
[21:57] <captbunzo> I know that sounds insane, but I feel like that's what I need.
[21:57] <captbunzo> anyone remember what that is called?
[21:57] <LunatyK> And ssta i know Slackware
[21:58] <LunatyK> I was 6 when i first used SlackWare
[21:58] <LunatyK> Kthanks
[21:58] <ssta> captbunzo: used to be called xvidtune.  No idea if it made it to xorg though.  It used to be XF86
[21:58] <dan457> WXZ: youcan have it recover by partial names... *.mp3 for example to resore all deletedmp3's.  no way i know to dp specific directories
[21:58] <captbunzo> I think it did.
[21:59] <captbunzo> beautiful, there it is :)
[22:01] <captbunzo> so if I update xorg.conf, do I have to reboot to get it to take effect?
[22:01] <zykotick9> captbunzo: just restart Xorg
[22:01] <ssta> captbunzo: restarting X should be enough
[22:01] <captbunzo> how do I restart X?
[22:01] <ssta> log out and log back in again
[22:01] <captbunzo> is it enough to log out and back in?
[22:01] <captbunzo> actually, maybe I can learn something here.
[22:02] <captbunzo> does gdm (or whatever ubuntu uses these days) and your actually logged in session use the same started up X server?
[22:02] <captbunzo> or do they have their own?
[22:03] <ssta> captbunzo: hmm, I honestly don't know.  I always thought that the xdm layer and the user session was the same, but then when the user logged out it was restarted.  Some sort of privdropping going on in betwee,  But I've never really looked into it deeply
[22:04] <ssta> captbunzo: if it were all one, that would imply that the base layer was all running as root, which would be...disturbing
[22:04] <captbunzo> ssta: yep.
[22:04] <captbunzo> same as you, I used to think it was one.
[22:05] <captbunzo> after I fix this, my next task is to convince windows to boot again.
[22:05] <ssta> captbunzo: my suspicion is that xdm (or whatever teh dm is) is root privileged (as the initial X server is), but that privs are dropped as soon as there's a login...
[22:05] <LunatyK> ok ssta
[22:05] <LunatyK> if Ubuntu is like Slackware
[22:06] <captbunzo> it didn't seem to be happy after I installed ubuntu alongside it.
[22:06] <ssta> LunatyK: please go troll elsewhere...
[22:06] <LunatyK> What is the install command for Wine Windows Program Loader?
[22:06] <NickHu> Hey guys, the ubuntu desktop sharing thing, can connect via any old vnc viewer?
[22:06] <NickHu> Also, what's the default port?
[22:06] <ssta> NickHu: yes, and (I believe) 5900
[22:07] <acovrig> I was talking to someone yesterday: does anyone know how to fix "udevd[....]: specified group '<list of groups>' unknown" -its failing my boot :(
[22:07] <captbunzo> I don't think X is talking right to the monitor.
[22:07] <captbunzo> I think it is a modeline problem...
[22:07] <captbunzo> bugger freaking that. :)
[22:08] <ssta> captbunzo: mostly we don't need modelines any more...unless it's *really* old hardware
[22:08] <captbunzo> ssta: I know where you are coming from on that
[22:08] <captbunzo> frankly. I expected that to be the case...
[22:09] <captbunzo> however, brand new pair of 22 inch widescreen monitors and a brand new ATI 6850 graphics card and I get a desktop bigger then the resolution, or some odd crap.
[22:09] <captbunzo> and the screens themselves are already in an "auto configuration" and don't have an option for manually overriding that./..
[22:10] <dan457> captbunzo: native resolution with ati propritary driver?
[22:10] <PaulEycks> How long does it take for a cpu fan to turn on? I did a build, got the bios splash screen but the fan just sits there.
[22:10] <captbunzo> I am using the default installed drivers atm.
[22:10] <ssta> captbunzo: looked at xrandr?  Lets you do some stuff on the fly with resolution/refresh rates
[22:10] <captbunzo> so I guess that's the open source xorg ones, or whatnot.
[22:10] <captbunzo> I was thinking about xrandr....
[22:10] <captbunzo> also wondered if I'd be better off just trying the proprietary drivers.
[22:11] <acovrig> udevd hanges at "set children_max to 245"
[22:11] <ssta> I dunno...I've always avoided ati cards...I'm sure they're better now, but way back when, they were impossble to get running in Linux
[22:12] <captbunzo> I assume you have an nvidia card then?
[22:12] <captbunzo> I almost got one of those.... grrr....
[22:12] <ssta> yeah.  nvidia has usually been easy to get working for me (maybe I was just lucky)
[22:12] <ssta> although there are problems with my work machine with nvidia cards...
[22:12] <dan457> I've always bought nvidia, but I Pulled the card from my server and it's using the on board ati just fine.
[22:13] <ModFather> Please help me, how i can remove programs that is installed? i tried make unistall and i got : make: *** No rule to make target `unistall'.  Stop.
[22:13] <dan457> but installed the ait binary driver
[22:13] <captbunzo> ait binary?
[22:13] <dan457> sorry ati
[22:13] <ssta> ModFather: "unistall"?  Spelling error maybe?  Did you mean "uninstall"?
[22:13] <dan457> small keyboard on this old netbook.  :)
[22:13] <captbunzo> ah yes, lol
[22:14] <captbunzo> dan457: am I better off using the control panel to do that? or to do it manually from the command line?
[22:14] <ModFather> ssta: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[22:15] <ssta> ModFather: guess that particular thing doesn't have an uninstall then.  Does the documentation say it should?
[22:15] <dan457> captbunzo: I used the system->additional drivers app
[22:15] <ModFather> ssta not :( and i need to complete remove it
[22:15] <captbunzo> k.
[22:15] <ModFather> ssta : also i checked on google but i didnt find nothing i asked on their channel but never got response
[22:15] <dan457> lost the fancy splash screen, but that can be fixed if you realy want it
[22:16] <captbunzo> there are two options... one called "ATI/AMD prop FGLRX graphics driver" and there other the same + (post-release updates)
[22:16] <ssta> ModFather: then you'll need to take the Makefile apart, see what it installed and where to, and remove them all by hand
[22:16] <captbunzo> any thoughts on which one I should try?
[22:16] <mongy> ModFather, install it first, then you should be able to make uninstall it
[22:16] <recon_lap> ModFather; you could have a look at the install script and manually undo what it did,
[22:16] <ssta> ModFather: installing from source is tricky...that's why it's not usually recommended
[22:16] <ModFather> mongy : it is installed and running.. all i need is to completly remove it
[22:16] <ssta> mongy: not if the makefile has no uninstall target!
[22:17] <dan457> captbunzo: i'm using the first one.
[22:17] <ModFather> ssta : how i can make it removed on startup up?
[22:17] <ssta> ModFather: probably not
[22:17] <ModFather> ssta : how i can removed from startup up?
[22:17] <ssta> ModFather: you'll have to track down everything that make install did and undo it
[22:17] <ssta> ModFather: oh, it's probably a script somewhere in /etc/init.d
[22:18] <hydrox24> ModFather: It's also worth trying the "startup applications" in ubuntu settings.
[22:18] <recon_lap> ModFather: that could be really simple or a nightmare , depends on what it did
[22:18] <ModFather> ssta : with rm -rf script name its all fine? or i need to remove it from update.rc?
[22:18] <iarp> Anyone know how to change what a program writes as, user and group wise? I'm having issues where 3 applications keep writing as root and not as my user and then i'm forced to chown and chgrp it every time
[22:18] <ModFather> hydrox24: i am from console
[22:19] <ssta> ModFather: don't use -rf unless you KNOW you need to, especially as root.  Just "rm /etc/init.d/whateverthescriptiscalled" whould do
[22:19] <ssta> umm, sudo rm even
[22:19] <ModFather> ok
[22:20] <recon_lap> lol, think advising modfather to use sudo rm in the lib folder could end badly
[22:20] <ModFather> ssta : is it on /etc/rc0.d/K*****
[22:20] <dagerik> To add stuff to PATH i add it in ~/.bashrc. But if I want it to be systemwide, where do I put it?
[22:21] <ssta> ModFather: that't the one that shuts it down.
[22:21] <ModFather> how i can remove it from all the rc*.d ?
[22:21] <recon_lap>  iarp: depends on the program, does it need root access to work
[22:21] <ssta> recon_lap: he installed stuff from source with no clue what he was doing...all bets are off imo.  This is the only way
[22:21] <ssta> ModFather: remove each one
[22:21] <somedude> does wubi see itself as a full install or is it different than regular install?
[22:21] <captbunzo> progress, maybe.
[22:22] <acerimmer> somedude: it sees itself as a regular ubuntu
[22:22] <captbunzo> now I have the resolution displaying right. but it's a little visibly wiggly and it won't let me turn off mirrored displays! :)
[22:22] <somedude> ok cool
[22:22] <somedude> thanks
[22:22] <iarp> recon_lap: i don't believe so
[22:24] <recon_lap> iarp: then run the program as the user you want the output owned by.
[22:24] <recon_lap> iarp; should work
[22:25] <iarp> i'm trying to figure out how tbh, i can only ssh in via one account, so i'm trying to figure out how to launch in this one account but run as another
[22:25] <montar> ubuntu
[22:26] <iarp> years ago i played in a ubuntu server box and had figured out there was a way to like, at a low level specify 'everything that goes in this folder is always xx group xx owner with ### permissions'
[22:26] <jrib> iarp: Access Control List
[22:26] <montar> ubuntu
[22:27] <dan457> captbunzo: I have never done dual monitor with ati, not sure how.  just nvidia.  my current ati box just has 1
[22:27] <montar> ubuntu
[22:27] <recon_lap> hurra
[22:27] <montar> ubuntu
[22:27] <xangua> montar: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[22:27] <jrib> iarp: documentation-wise, you can read « man setfacl », « man getfacl », and « man mount » (you need to mount the partition with the "acl" option, so update your fstab)
[22:27] <montar> xangua: ubuntu
[22:27] <gennaro> ciao
[22:28] <gennaro> aiuto
[22:28] <gennaro> vorrei la lingua italiana
[22:28] <montar> silenzio
[22:28] <acerimmer> !it|gennaro
[22:28] <gennaro> ubuntu 11.10 mi esce meta inglese e meta italiano
[22:28] <montar> vaffanculo
[22:29] <LunatyK> restarting
[22:29] <montar> ubuntu
[22:29] <acerimmer> montar: you have a question??
[22:30] <montar> acerimmer: ubuntu
[22:30] <acerimmer> !ask|montar
[22:30] <recon_lap> odd crowd here tonight
[22:30] <montar> ubuntu
[22:31] <recon_lap>  I'm having a problem with java marvin framework examples , get 'Unknown video format' when i try use the web cam. this is on a ubuntu system and the web cam works fine. anyone know if marvin works on linux? I'v looked but found little information
[22:31] <montar> ubuntu
[22:32] <DaemonFool> hi
[22:32] <montar> ubuntu
[22:32] <dupondje> Hi! I'm having some issues with a CIFS mount. It got mounted, network got lost, and now recovered. But the mount doesn't respond anymore, neither I can umount it. Any idea ?
[22:32] <mongy> dont say it 3 times!
[22:32] <montar> ubuntu
[22:33] <recon_lap> dupondje: there is a force option in unmount, have you tried that
[22:33] <montar> ubuntu
[22:33] <dupondje> recon_lap: yep, it keeps waiting :(
[22:33] <montar> ubuntu
[22:33] <recon_lap> hmm, think montar need kicking
[22:33] <acerimmer> recon_lap: agreed
[22:33] <Nabby> lightdm doesn't seem to use the default session I set in lightdm.conf (http://pastebin.com/AppsniuW). Anyone can see what's going wrong?
[22:33] <montar> why
[22:33] <ssta> dupondje: Iv'e seen it before, several times.  You can mount over the top of it and it will work (probably), but the only weay (that I have found) to get rid of it is to reboot
[22:33] <montar> why kicking
[22:34] <recon_lap> your spaming the channel
[22:34] <dupondje> ssta: Guess shutdown will lock also no? as it will try to umount
[22:34] <montar> but ubuntu is correct
[22:34] <mongy> Nabby, is it a session?
[22:34] <ssta> dupondje: no.  It can take a while, but it will reboot
[22:34] <ssta> dupondje: well, always has for me
[22:34] <montar> ubuntu is correct.
[22:34] <mongy> Nabby, seems more like just a .desktop file for running xbmc
[22:35] <recon_lap> goes looking for the ignore command
[22:35] <dupondje> ssta: well anyway, I tried to remount it on same path again, and it works now
[22:35] <dupondje> and only once in mtab also
[22:35] <dupondje> ah well
[22:35] <dupondje> thx
[22:35] <dupondje> :)
[22:35] <ssta> dupondje: yep.  Although in my case it's twice in mtab.  Wonder why yours was onl;y one...strange
[22:35] <montar> dupondje. ubuntu is correct
[22:36] <montar> ssta: do you concur?
[22:36] <Nabby> mongy, yea, that's it
[22:36] <montar> nabby: ubuntu is correct
[22:36] <ssta> montar: I have no idea what you're talking about
[22:36] <xangua> montar: please stop
[22:36] <montar> ssta is a correct word.
[22:36] <montar> xangua: am I wrong?
[22:37] <ssta> !ops | montar
[22:37] <Myrtti> montar: hi
[22:37] <montar> hi
[22:37]  * D4rth_B4n3 is away: try it again later
[22:37] <mongy> Nabby, then you probably need it to be youe session like ubuntu or whatever, then you make xbmc run on startup
[22:37] <Myrtti> !away > D4rth_B4n3
[22:37] <Gnea> So yeah, got upgraded to natty and now it's telling me that my / isn't there, when it clearly is... and when I Manually go to fix it, it gives me the root prompt to do so at... anyone seen this before?  I'm not entirely sure what to look for here.... all of the UUID's match up in /etc/fstab..
[22:37] <Nabby> mongy, I already have the option to choose XMBC when I turn autologin off
[22:38] <montar> ubuntu is correct
[22:38] <mongy> Nabby, maybe its not case sensitive then?  never used xbmc
[22:40] <KocHi`> anybody??
[22:40]  * KocHi` need help
[22:40] <acerimmer> !ask|kochi`
[22:40] <oconnore> My laptop is losing keyboard input events. "Is tt a lin problemor how should I go abofixing it?" => Is this a linux problem or how should I go about fixing it?
[22:41] <oconnore> It's very annoying
[22:41] <yourfriendisaac> eject command not working but cd does work need force command for cd eject
[22:42] <bastidrazor> oconnore: you could test to see if ubuntu is seeing the inputs.. in a terminal type 'xev' then start typing
[22:42] <KocHi`> Im installing cgiirc on my ubuntu server use apt-get, and now I dont know how to make it works or how to use it
[22:43] <Flannel> KocHi`: read /usr/share/doc/cgiirc/README.Debian
[22:43] <Flannel> KocHi`: That file usually contains the next things you'll need to do to configure/set up/etc
[22:44] <recon_lap> this channel was much better when it was full of early adopters :)
[22:45] <KocHi`> thx a lot :D
[22:45] <yourfriendisaac> eject command not working but cd does work need force command for cd eject --- having i/o error at cd rom
[22:45] <ModFather> on my ubuntu i had 600mb idle how i can see what eat that memory?
[22:45] <Gnea> recon_lap: oh it's still really good
[22:46] <oconnore> bastidrazor: xev misses key input too
[22:47] <bastidrazor> oconnore: that indicates hardware failure
[22:47] <Tiktalik> how can I set the date
[22:47] <Tiktalik> on my computer
[22:47] <oconnore> bastidrazor: it doesn't happen in windows
[22:47] <recon_lap> KocHi' system monitor
[22:48] <recon_lap> Tiktalik: click on the date on the tootbar at the top
[22:48] <oconnore> bastidrazor: also, it only happens in long sentences. For example, the first four characters I type are always right.
[22:48] <mIcRo|2> hi
[22:49] <bastidrazor> oconnore: i have no idea. best of luck
[22:49] <oconnore> hmm
[22:50] <Sorinan> What's the easiest way to execute a chain of commands when AC is plugged/unplugged?
[22:51] <newb2> Hello! I have a chroot i386 installation in my 64 bit system, but my sound isn't working at chrooted system... somebody can help me? Use aplay at chrooted system returns me "device is busy".
[22:52] <Suppemannen231> Hello
[22:52] <Suppemannen231> I installed ubuntu for quite a while ago. But when I launch ubuntu, it goes straight onto terminal
[22:53] <Suppemannen231> but it does not do that in safe-mode
[22:53] <oconnore> maybe 12.04 will fix it :)
[22:53] <MK13> Suppemannen231: are you wanting to have the gui login screen appear?
[22:53] <Suppemannen231> So there is no option that disables this?
[22:53] <Suppemannen231> Yes
[22:53]  * oconnore crosses fingers and types "sudo update-manager -d"
[22:54] <Suppemannen231> Since I don't understand how to enter linux when I'm just in the terminal
[22:54] <yourfriendisaac> eject command not working but cd does work need force command for cd eject --- having i/o error at cd rom
[22:54] <yourfriendisaac> help?
[22:54] <travisHAZE> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso or i386 for a Toshiba C655-S5132?
[22:54] <mongy> oconnore, as long as crossing fingers was a script to backup your install.
[22:54] <meco> What needs to be updated when characters on a web page won't appear, i.e. I only see a hollow rectangle?
[22:54] <travisHAZE> Toshiba Satellite
[22:55] <recon_lap> yourfriendisaac: have you tried unmonting the drive and pressing the eject button
[22:55] <Gnea> meco: probably the browser
[22:55] <travisHAZE> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso or i386 for a Toshiba Satellite C655-S5132 (64-bit Intel processor?)
[22:55] <meco> Gnea: OK, but what about the browser?
[22:55] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap yes
[22:55] <MK13> Suppemannen231: i am checking, one sec.
[22:55] <Gnea> travisHAZE: i386 is the 32-bit, amd64 would be the 64-bit iso
[22:56] <Gnea> meco: I just said
[22:56] <travisHAZE> k figured, the amd64 part is a bit misleading
[22:56] <recon_lap> yourfriendisaac: and did the drive unmount
[22:56] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap deive wont mount or un mount unless drive is open at bootstart
[22:56] <Gnea> !amd64 | travisHAZE
[22:56] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap drive wont mount or un mount unless drive is open at bootstart
[22:56] <oconnore> mongy: I'm not too worried about losing my git checkouts, or my saved passwords in mozilla. But yes, good advice.
[22:56] <Gnea> travisHAZE: amd64 pretty much covers all 64-bit for Ubuntu and many other distros
[22:57] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap however I know there is a command to for the tray open
[22:57] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap however I know there is a command to force* the tray open
[22:57] <MK13> Suppemannen231: could you run 'cat /etc/inittab' and look for a line similar to "x:5:respawn:[gdm/kdm]"
[22:58] <mongy> 'eject'
[22:58] <MK13> wow...
[22:58] <trism> Sorinan: drop a script in /etc/pm/power.d/, $1 will be true when the ac adaptor is unplugged, false when it is plugged
[22:58] <aBound> MK13, Looks like he left.
[22:58] <yourfriendisaac> mongy if that was for me eject not working
[22:59] <recon_lap> yourfriendisaac: sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l maybe
[22:59] <MK13> aBound: yea, i know... guess he is too busy to be helped
[22:59] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap ok i'll try
[23:00] <aBound> Either that or he was wanting a fast response. :P
[23:00] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap "umount: /media/cdrom0/: not found
[23:00] <yourfriendisaac> umount: maybe: not found"
[23:00] <recon_lap> lucky there is nothing on TV tonight
[23:00] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap looks like an i/o error
[23:01] <recon_lap> lol,  yourfriendisaac , the maybe was not part of the command ,
[23:01] <mongy> yourfriendisaac, udisks --eject
[23:01] <bencc> how can I feed the password to "sudo -u someuser somecommand" so it won't prompt me for it?
[23:01] <yourfriendisaac> didnt put in maybe that was the kernel guessing
[23:01] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap didnt put in maybe that was the kernel guessing
[23:01] <MK13> aBound: don't run ubuntu much at home, so i have to look up certain things :D
[23:02] <jrib> bencc: you don't want to do that :/
[23:02] <aBound> MK13, Understandable.
[23:02] <bencc> jrib: why not?
[23:02] <jrib> bencc: what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[23:03] <bencc> jrib: I'm not going to save it in a script
[23:03] <BTaylor927> I'm trying out unity 5.0 for a bit. Is there a version of unityshell-rotated which has been updated for it?
[23:03] <bencc> jrib: I have a myserverctl script that I want to call to do a backup to the current folder
[23:03] <eutheria_> wasn't there a gui tool to create encrypted partitions?
[23:03] <bencc> jrib: the myserverctl script is running as the myserver user
[23:04] <bencc> jrib: so I want to do: myserverctl backup --out /home/currentuserhome -p current-user-pass
[23:04] <bencc> jrib: I'm not going to save the password
[23:04] <jrib> bencc: why don't you just give that user permission on the directory you want it to save to?
[23:04] <aBound> BTaylor927, Doubt you'll get much help for Unity 5.0 seeing as it isn't in the Official repositories.
[23:05] <bencc> jrib: I don't want to hard code it to a specific folder.
[23:05] <recon_lap> eutheria_: disk utility will encrypt, you will have to install the crypt packages to read it though
[23:05] <BTaylor927> Hmm, abound, is there a channel for discussion of unofficial releases?
[23:05] <bencc> jrib: is there a way to give the sudo -u the password without a prompt?
[23:05] <jrib> bencc: then give that user NOPASSWD for the specific command you are using I guess
[23:05] <jrib> bencc: you can probably do some nonsence with expect, but you don't want to do that
[23:06] <yourfriendisaac> mongy that didnt work either just got man page even though I did command udisks --eject /dev/sr0 --- Eject failed: Error ejecting: eject exited with exit code 1: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[23:06] <aBound> BTaylor927, Not that I know of but they do have a Ubuntu Precise channel.
[23:06] <bencc> jrib: I want to feed sudo -u with the password
[23:06] <bencc> jrib: there is nothing wrong with it or insecure
[23:06] <jrib> bencc: of course there is
[23:07] <mongy> yourfriendisaac, sigh.  shutdown and eject it later ?
[23:07] <recon_lap> yourfriendisaac: do you have a paperclip =-O
[23:07] <MK13>  /quit Bye for now
[23:07] <yourfriendisaac> mongy ?? No other choice *sigh* neeed new cd rom lol
[23:08] <aBound> BTaylor927, Some users using Precise tend to use Unity 5.0 you could try here: #ubuntu+1
[23:08] <syddraf> I just installed Xubuntu on partion /dev/sdb2 over a Debian install (along side Windows 7 and Linux Mint 11), but Grub did not update to include the new install. How can I add an item to my grub menu to boot to /dev/sdb2 properly?
[23:08] <mongy> yourfriendisaac, as recon_lap said, dependinf on your device, you may a hole to eject it
[23:09] <mongy> my keyboard is missing keys :)  you may have a hole to put a paperclip in to eject the cd forcefully
[23:09] <jrib> bencc: anyway, I suggest avoiding what you are trying to do and find a "better way".  I don't exactly understand why your current setup is requiring to do this.  If you want to ignore my advice, read the "sudo" man page, it's there
[23:10] <yourfriendisaac> mongy I dont understand dependinf? Is that a command?
[23:10] <jarsee> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 of DVD.  GUI fires up, pick Install, black screen w/ _ cursor, Ubuntu logo is displayed then video goes.  DVD is still spinning, using GeForce 8400GS.  Have tried nomodeset and other boot options all to the same result.
[23:10] <mongy> yourfriendisaac, my bad typing.
[23:11] <recon_lap> mongy: thats funny , yourfriendisaac: a lot of cd drives have a little hole , you can poke a paper clip in and force the cd tray open, turn you computer off first
[23:11] <bencc> jrib: why is it wrong to pass the password without a prompt?
[23:11] <chipmonk> i partitioned a harddrive to save data when a clean install due to problems with a video card
[23:11] <yourfriendisaac> recon_lap tried that too :(
[23:11] <yourfriendisaac> lol
[23:11] <jarsee> Any way to do a fresh installe using the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[23:12] <Raymond_> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[23:12] <jrib> bencc: unecessary risk
[23:12] <jarsee> Fedora 16 seems to exhibit same symptoms.
[23:12] <chipmonk> clean install runs fine wanna get info from the other partition with the trashed x install
[23:12] <chipmonk> how
[23:12] <anonymous666> hi to all
[23:12] <recon_lap> yourfriendisaac: and that did not work?
[23:13] <bencc> jrib: what's the risk?
[23:13] <jrib> bencc: password in cleartext
[23:13] <anonymous666> is there somepeople that know to programing in c lenguage?
[23:13] <jrib> anonymous666: ##c
[23:13] <anonymous666> what?
[23:13] <n28> C? What is C? Never heard of. Maybe you mean COBOL?
[23:13] <jrib> anonymous666: visit the ##c channel for help with C
[23:14] <anonymous666> ok thanks
[23:14] <n28> Better: Just give up this C thing and learn Cobol.
[23:14] <ilpollo> chanel please , thanks
[23:14] <recon_lap> anonymous666 , and best of luck there, they talk in machine code
[23:14] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please, thanks
[23:14] <bastidrazor> ilpollo: #ubuntu-es
[23:14] <n28> It has 6 times as many letters and thus must be at least 6 times better.
[23:15] <wdonkey> anyone feels like helping me setting up a VPN server even tho i dont know shit about what im doing?
[23:16] <anonymous666> when i go to join in ##c, the bot say:"the chanel c is only for invited"
[23:16] <jrib> !register | anonymous666
[23:16] <n28> Yeah I have that too.
[23:16] <totuma> i'm new here
[23:17] <n28> Yeah me too.
[23:17] <n28> Totally.
[23:17] <wdonkey> its quite easy and painless to register your nickname
[23:17] <totuma> is this supposed to be for the doubts and that?
[23:17] <wdonkey> follow the steps
[23:17] <n28> Know what I mean?
[23:18] <recon_lap> anonymous666: save yourself the effort, read http://www.loirak.com/prog/ctutor.php
[23:18] <wdonkey> i guess its a matter of keeping lamers away
[23:18] <Guest68409> How do I launch programs over ssh? I don't want to forward it to my X, I want it to run on the display
[23:19] <Nabby> Where do you configure the default session to login to?
[23:21] <mongy> Nabby, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:21] <Nabby> yea, thought so
[23:21] <mongy> Nabby, mine says user-session=xubuntu for example
[23:21] <Nabby> can anyone give me a default lightdm.conf?
[23:22] <Nabby> I might have played around with it too much
[23:22] <jarsee> I've tried xforcevesa, nomodeset and a combination of both, both switch to black screen after a bit.
[23:22] <eigar> Anyone know how to prevent lag on end of files using pulseaudio + mpg123, play, mplayer, etc.
[23:22] <ian__> Quick question - does anybody know where on the filesystem the list of startup applications is maintained?
[23:22] <oconnore> whew, this is interesting. 11.10 -> 12.04 upgrade just turned off the unity shell, so now i'm in raw X
[23:22] <Nabby> jarsee, what gfx card do you have
[23:23] <oconnore> i hope it doesn't need keyboard input because there is no more alt+tab :P
[23:23] <jarsee> Geforce 8400 GS chipset
[23:23] <mongy> Nabby, mine is pretty empty
[23:23] <n28> How I join #c?
[23:23] <xangua> !pangolin | oconnore
[23:23] <xangua> n28: /join #channelname
[23:23] <ian__> lightdm.conf file contents:
[23:23] <ian__> [SeatDefaults]
[23:23] <ian__> greeter-session=unity-greeter
[23:23] <ian__> user-session=ubuntu
[23:23] <oconnore> xangua: um, what?
[23:23] <FloodBot1> ian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <mongy> Nabby, http://pastebin.com/hknXncaZ
[23:24] <mongy> not much more needed I don't thing
[23:24] <mongy> think*
[23:24] <Nabby> hmm ok
[23:24] <recon_lap> oconnore: he means you now looking for help with ubuntu+1 , as it's pre release
[23:24] <Nabby> jarsee, have you tried stuff like: nouveau.modeset=0 or nvidia.modeset=0
[23:24] <jarsee> Nabby, I tried the alternate .iso as well, same outcome.
[23:25] <jarsee> Nabby, let me try those again.  Testing now.
[23:25] <Nabby> mongy, ls /usr/share/xgreeters/
[23:25] <jarsee> Nabby, do I want to do nomodeset in it as well?
[23:25] <Nabby> no
[23:26] <jarsee> K
[23:26] <eigar> ian__: What?
[23:27] <Nabby> weird, my lightdm.conf just doesn't seem to be doing anything. I've changed user-session to ubunut-2d and still it did not change the default session
[23:28] <btaylor927> On my compaq Presario CQ70, the wifi light is either orange or blue, depending on whether wifi is on or off.
[23:28] <btaylor927> In 11.10 it seems to flash at random
[23:28] <btaylor927> Anyone know what I can do to stop this?
[23:29] <recon_lap> I'm having a problem with java marvin framework examples , get 'Unknown video format' when i try use the web cam. this is on a ubuntu system and the web cam works fine. anyone know if marvin works on linux? I'v looked but found little information
[23:30] <Nabby> where are upstart jobs configured?
[23:32] <eigar> ian__: Whats your priv. msg about?
[23:39] <syddraf> I just installed Xubuntu on partion /dev/sdb2 over a Debian install (along side Windows 7 and Linux Mint 11), but Grub did not update to include the new install. How can I add an item to my grub menu to boot to /dev/sdb2 properly?
[23:40] <mw1coe> Anyone here good with Power PC's
[23:41] <kah_> hey installing ubuntu 11.10 on virtualbox... i set the space to 8gb fixed is that enough?
[23:42] <jarsee> Nvidia geforce 8400, fresh install of 11.10 - When video drivers kick in goes to blank screen, nvidia.,modeset=0, nouveau.modeset=0 all do the same.
[23:42] <acerimmer> kah_: yes
[23:42] <kah_> acerimmer: thanks.
[23:42] <jarsee> DVD is spinning like its still working and video is jacked.
[23:43] <subcool> how do you run a check disk on linux?
[23:43] <jarsee> fsck
[23:48] <arianius> hello,i need a bit of help, trying to install kubuntu on asus eeepc and when i boot from usb it always ends up in terminal.on 2nd eepc it worked like charm.any idea what can i do?
[23:49] <Guest68409> I am trying to launch a program from the terminal but it wont do.. some programs work but this not.. can someone look at log and point me in the right direction? pls http://pastebin.ca/2107606
[23:50] <jarsee> Nabby, tried both nouveau.modeset=0, nvidia.modeset=0.  No luck
[23:50] <Es0teric> do i need Mint12 w/ GNOME to run cinnamon 1.2?
[23:50] <jrib> Guest68409: are you in X?
[23:51] <Guest68409> jrib: putty
[23:51] <jrib> Guest68409: well you're trying to launch a graphical application
[23:51] <Guest68409> jrib: i am using x on the linux computer that i am using.. as u can see i can launch skype
[23:51] <Guest68409> jrib: yes, i want to.. on my htpc
[23:51] <Guest68409> jrib: but it does not allow me
[23:51] <jrib> Guest68409: you launch skype and it shows up where?
[23:52] <Nabby> jarsee, what exactly are you trying to do. I think I missed that part ;)
[23:52] <Guest68409> jrib: no where apparently
[23:52] <jarsee> Nabby, no worries - Trying to install ubuntu 11.10. Coming off FC 13.  Looking to try a diff distro after 10+ yrs.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Es0teric: There is a ppa available for Ubuntu 11.10, but we won't support it here (as we don't support most ppas, and generally recommend against them as they could break things).
[23:53] <arianius> so tried with new usb key still ends up in terminal look like thingy dont know what else to do it runs nice in virtual machine but just wont install.help out pls ^^
[23:53] <jrib> Guest68409: :D where do you want qbittorrent to appear?
[23:53] <Guest68409> jrib: on the htpc.. so that I can use the remote gui
[23:53] <Jordan_U> arianius: Is it a "Busybox" terminal?
[23:53] <mw1coe> anyone knows if drivers have to be different or PowerPC's
[23:53] <jarsee> Nabby, Fedora 16 does the same thing, something w/ the nvidia open driver guessing. Hoping to force to a low res mode to at least get installed and mess w/ the driver but can't get to that part.
[23:53] <Guest68409> jrib:  i want to launch the torrent program so that I can access its web gui when I want to
[23:53] <Guest68409> jrib: and then close it down
[23:53] <Es0teric> Jordan_U, i perfer Mint over Ubuntu.. though ubuntu is a good OS i just like how Mint looks and operates though isnt Mint built ON ubuntu?
[23:53] <Nabby> jarsee, ah ok. I had the same problem. During boot, when you see the human and the keyboard, press space. Select language, then press F6 and select nomodeset. Press escape and press enter to boot.
[23:54] <Jordan_U> mw1coe: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[23:54] <jrib> Guest68409: you want it to appear on the server (the linux machine) or on the client (the windows machine)?
[23:54] <jarsee> Nabby, tried that too!
[23:54] <mw1coe> trying to get the rtl1292cu usb wireless working
[23:54] <Guest68409> jrib: the linux machine.. I'm well indulged with the xming/x11 forwarding but I haven't tried launching things on the server via the commando prompt
[23:54] <jarsee> Nabby,I can try my DVI cable, switched to VGA thinking may be the issue.
[23:54] <jrib> Guest68409: what does the following command return: echo $DISPLAY
[23:54] <jarsee> Nabby, wouldn't think that'd matter tho.
[23:54] <Nabby> jarsee, what happens after you try to boot?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Es0teric: Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu. We don't support unnofficial Ubuntu derivatives here though. Only Ubuntu and its default repositories.
[23:55] <Guest68409> echo $DISPLAY
[23:55] <Es0teric> i see, Jordan_U.. well thanks
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Es0teric: You're welcome.
[23:55] <subcool> anyone.. check disk feature on linux
[23:55] <Ben64> subcool: fsck
[23:55] <Guest68409> jrib: its blank
[23:55] <jarsee>  Nabby, just goes to black screen.
[23:55] <jrib> Guest68409: set it to ':0'
[23:55] <jarsee> Nabby, but CD still spinning, so is something video driver-wise
[23:56] <arianius> i dont know i made a bootable usb while in win it runs nicely but when i restart and boot from usb to install it it gives me option to install and then screen goes black letters fly to fast to read and i get in terminal look like thing
[23:56] <Nabby> jarsee, ok, so your monitor still receives input, with me my monitor actually lost input and started to go into sleep mode
[23:56] <Jordan_U> !fsck | subcool
[23:56] <mw1coe> Jordan_U: Tried Every suggestion and Nothing//
[23:56] <jarsee> Nabby, no same deal. goes to sleep.
[23:56] <jarsee> Nabby, sorry to confuse.
[23:56] <Nabby> jarsee, no problem :)
[23:57] <jarsee> Nabby, I get a black screen, blinking cursor, then Ubuntu 11.10 logo, then No Signal on my monitor.
[23:57] <Guest68409> jrib: your thinking about export DISPLAY=:0?
[23:57] <jarsee> Nabby, just did it w/ nomodeset param
[23:57] <jrib> Guest68409: yes
[23:58] <Nabby> hmm
[23:58] <jarsee> Nabby, any way to show logging to see what's going on?
[23:58] <jarsee> Nabby, I'm using the VGA out not DVI.
[23:58] <jarsee> FWIW
[23:58] <Guest68409> jrib: would probarbly have solved it myself after a few hours of grmphing but thanks for guiding me in the right direction, works fine.
[23:59] <jrib> Guest68409: no problem
[23:59] <Nabby> jarsee, did you try xforcevesa yet?
[23:59] <Steamopunk> Well, solved my problem before I even got to ask it in the chat room. /victory