[14:10] <ochosi> is it just me or is lubuntu now also copying our default panel-layout? :) http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2012/01/ozone-3.html
[14:11] <TheSheep> ochosi: I wouldn't say they are copying it, there is a limited number of solutions that works and even smaller number of solutions that users are used to
[14:13] <ochosi> yeah, i know, but they seem to establish a small tradition of following some of xubuntu's decisions one release later
[14:13] <ochosi> first bluebird, then greybird, now the panel layout :)
[14:13] <ochosi> but i agree with you of course, i was mainly joking around
[14:13] <TheSheep> you can feel smug that it apparently were good deciwssions
[14:13] <TheSheep> decisions
[14:14] <TheSheep> they
[14:14] <TheSheep> I can't english toay
[14:14] <ochosi> well, that's one possible conclusion :)
[14:14] <ochosi> lol
[14:14] <ochosi> you can't english? oh, poor sheep...
[14:15] <TheSheep> yeah, I accidentally
[14:15] <ochosi> it's a pity though that there is no collaboration between them and us. i reached out to them two releases ago, but there was little echo (apart from me helping them fix a few bugs in their variant of bluebird)
[14:19] <TheSheep> ochosi: oh, they do, just their communication is based on stigmergy
[14:20] <TheSheep> sometimes that's the best way
[14:20] <TheSheep> show what you mean by actually doing it
[14:20] <ochosi> heh
[14:20]  * ochosi just learned a new word
[14:21] <ochosi> that's not exactly what i meant with collaboration, but ok :)
[15:00] <mr_pouit> awesome, I've less than 50 posts on the ubuntu forums, so I can't edit my profile <3
[15:01] <mr_pouit> whoever designed this system had a iq of 759
[15:01] <knome> hahah
[15:02] <ochosi> lol
[15:02] <mr_pouit> I registered in 2005 ;(
[15:03] <knome> hah, i never registered
[15:03] <knome> i think...
[15:03] <knome> i mean, forums is not my cup of tea
[15:03] <ochosi> mr_pouit: yeah, there you have it. tradition doesn't give you the right to edit _your_ profile. content-less blabbering on the other hand does... =)
[15:05] <mr_pouit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1913468
[15:07] <knome> bbl ->
[15:13] <ochosi> mr_pouit: well in fact it's kinda understandable. but an "if userage > 2yrs" might help...
[15:13] <ochosi> (and with userage i mean account-age)
[16:50] <ScottL> can someone help me with this issue?  http://imagebin.org/196207
[16:51] <ScottL> i'm trying to adjust the xubuntu-default-settings package for ubuntu studio
[16:51] <ScottL> but when installing over an existing xubuntu install it is saying that it can't replace the .Xdefaults file
[16:52] <ScottL> i renamed the .Xdefaults file and then tried to reinstall it but it still gave me this save error
[16:52] <ScottL> so i'm thinking that it's not just the fact the file exists but apparently that it's part of the xubuntu-default-settings package
[16:52] <ScottL> i was going to try a presint file to rename the file but not sure this is going to work now :/
[16:53] <ScottL> any suggestions
[17:18] <ochosi> ScottL: have you tried uninstalling xubuntu-default-settings first?
[17:18] <ochosi> and, have you set the package to replace xubuntu-default-settings?
[17:19] <ochosi> (i'm stabbing blindly you know, i'm not a packager :) )
[17:20] <ochosi> ScottL: another question, what icon theme will you be using in -studio? elementary or something else?
[17:21] <ScottL> ochosi, i just did that and it worked (sorry was in another channel )
[17:21] <ScottL> ochosi, i don't know how to 'replace' another file
[17:21] <ScottL> packaging is certainly not my strong suit
[17:22] <ochosi> i thought it's a package option you can set, replaces blahblah
[17:23] <ScottL> oh, in the control file?!
[17:23] <ochosi> yup
[17:46] <ScottL> ochosi, astraljava pointed out that removing xubuntu-default-settings is not conducive to removing the ubuntustudio settings and reverting back to the previous settings
[17:46] <ScottL> ochosi, he suggested installing .Xdefault.ubuntustudio, then renaming both files in the postin fiel
[17:46] <ScottL> file
[17:47] <ScottL> then reverting in the postrm file back to the original .Xdefault settings
[17:47] <ScottL> ochosi, can you think of any objections to this approach?
[17:55] <astraljava> ScottL: I'm not sure if the user would then lose that file, if after installing Studio's package removes Xubuntu's package.
[18:10] <ochosi> ScottL: phu, i'd say talk to micahg or mr_pouit about that ;)
[18:11] <astraljava> ochosi: Micah just joined the conversation on our -devel. :)
[18:11] <ochosi> ah ok :)
[22:01] <astraljava> Hey dudes and dudettes, has there been a change in ubiquity, not supporting encrypted partitions anymore?
[22:10] <micahg> , ubiquity always only supported encrypted home
[22:11] <micahg> *SIUI
[22:11] <micahg> *AIUI
[22:17] <astraljava> Oh, okay then.