[00:00] <BarkingFish> What you need to do is open System Settings, go to Regional and Language, Select Keyboard Layout and click the Advanced tab.
[00:01] <BarkingFish> In the list, you'll see "Compose key position", which allows you to pick which key you want. Set one, apply it and save.
[00:01] <BarkingFish> Once you've picked your compose key, you do the following to enter characters like that:
[00:02] <BarkingFish> Press and release the compose key, then SHIFT+2 for ", then the letter you want.  For example, Compose + " + A = Ä
[00:05] <BarkingFish> For the ß  - it's simply Compose + s + s
[00:06] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Oh, thank you!!! You're a sweetheart! (:
[00:06] <BarkingFish> no problem
[00:07] <BarkingFish> I use them a lot, it's quite useful once you set the key up, it's just complicated picking where you want the key and actually assigning it
[00:07] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: I'm going to do it right now while I'm still in here. (:
[00:08] <BarkingFish> you can do all the basic international lettering using the compose key, along with other symbols from your keyboard.  Apostrophes give you acute accents, like é - the ^ sign gets used for circumflexes, like û...
[00:08] <BarkingFish> and commas for the little hooked thingy under a french letter C :)  ç
[00:09] <BarkingFish> remember though, for ones using a symbol, it's always Compose, then the symbol, then the letter.
[00:14] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Okay, I set up left Ctrl key, so I press Ctrl + s + s and end up with the sharp S. That's perfect. How do I do umlaut a, o, and u in lower and upper case? I don't need any other letters, like the French letter or letters with carets. (:
[00:14] <BarkingFish> ok, for a lower case a, o or u with an umlaut
[00:15] <BarkingFish> compose + (shift 2) + a, o or u
[00:15] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Aha, got it! Ctrl + " + a, etc. (:
[00:15] <BarkingFish> so ä ö ü
[00:15] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Thank you SO much! This will make life SO much simpler! Will this also work in other programs or just Kate?
[00:15] <BarkingFish> it works in everything that takes text except a terminal
[00:15] <BarkingFish> even Libreoffice supports it
[00:16] <BarkingFish> remember, if you want the umlauted letters in caps, you shift them too, so:
[00:16] <BarkingFish> compose + (shift 2) + (shift a) = Ä
[00:16] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Yep, I've got that now, so you're shifting for the quotes and for the A or O or U. Perfect!!! (:
[00:17] <BarkingFish> got it
[00:17] <BarkingFish> :)
[00:17] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Oh my, I use Claws Mail, which is not the default mail program, and it even works in that! Oh, you have made my life SO much simpler! I've been copying and pasting, and that gets old fast. (:
[00:19] <littlegirl> BarkingFish: Thank you so much! I love you forever! I'm off to go write Umlauts. (:
[00:20]  * BarkingFish goes to bed with warm fuzzy feeling of making someone's life better :)
[00:37] <sharke> Hi!!!
[02:26] <basso> Does anyone have a guide on "How to get the most out of KDE"?
[02:28] <Kimlaroux> Be curious, have some spare time
[02:29] <basso> nawww :(
[02:30] <DaskreecH> basso: wouldn't someone have to do that first ot be able to write a guide?
[02:31] <basso> DaskreecH: yes, and then they should post it on the interwebs <.<
[02:31] <DaskreecH> I don't know that's possible :)
[02:32] <DaskreecH>  I've played with KDE for years and I'm constantly finding new things it does
[02:32] <DaskreecH> but perhaps we can help. What would you like to do with KDE?
[02:32] <Kimlaroux> that's because they keep on added stuff =P
[02:32] <Kimlaroux> adding*
[02:32] <DaskreecH> Yeah and they have lots of stuff undocumented
[02:33] <DaskreecH> and things added a while back that you just forget about
[02:33] <DaskreecH> I totally forgot that you could tab applications till last night
[02:34] <Urbanpro> slt all
[02:35] <Kimlaroux> yeah and some stuff that used to be easy to do are now impossible
[02:36] <Kimlaroux> like how can I lock all the Gimp windows together so that when I bring one up, they all do?
[02:36] <DaskreecH> slt
[02:36] <DaskreecH> Was that grouping? I forget what that was called
[02:37] <DaskreecH> basso: are you looking for tips or like workflows?
[02:37] <Kimlaroux> they changed what grouping does, now it brings all the windows into a single one places tabs into the title bar
[02:37] <basso> ahh yes workflows would be nice to explore
[02:39] <DaskreecH> Well you may want to look at activities
[02:43] <DaskreecH> basso: do you have desktop effects on?
[02:46] <basso> Ouch had to get some coffee!
[02:46] <basso> yes i have desktop effects on DaskreecH
[02:46] <basso> i found out that hold the mouse at the top left was quite efficent
[02:48] <basso> i also changed the kickoff icon! http://basso.cc/post/16738932105/the-power-of-gnu-linux-and-kde
[02:48] <indystorm> OK guys- I don't know if I even really have a question here, but I like the idea of Kubuntu as a distro- but I have always had so many problems with it. I'm a distro hopper- trying out one or another every few weeks, but kubuntu just seems so unstable to me. I load it up, and it doesn't perform updates, and hangs, the package manager crashes, it freezes on boot... It's just insane- it seems
[02:48] <indystorm> crazy to me that this is happening. What I've done to get around this is install Ubuntu server edition, and then put KDE on top of that, and it's rock solid. I crashed that system today, by my own doing, and decided I'd try the kubuntu 11.10 install, and it's the same ol' unstable distro I've always remembered.... Could I possibly be doing something wrong here??? What is going on?!
[02:50] <basso> indystorm: i installed kde 4.8 on my ubuntu 11.10, nothing seems wrong here
[02:52] <basso> welcome zuanny
[02:52] <basso> are you drinking coffee?
[02:54] <indystorm> I know, but the problems I run into are with the kubuntu 11.10 ISO download file--- when I install that I have all kinds of problems....!
[02:55] <DaskreecH> indystorm: such as ?
[02:55] <DaskreecH> basso: ctrl+F9 works as well
[02:56] <indystorm> read my first statement-- crashes on boot occasionally, software updates freeze, system hangs, the package manager crashes..... it's very bizzare- all kinds of problems- but the problems all go away when I install regular ubuntu server with KDE on top of it--- it's just weird- Why isn't the kubuntu iso download stable??
[02:58] <ken> Beside myself here - I lost my "Add / Remove Software" when I reinstalled Kubuntu 11.10 and I don't get anymore software updates... Any help is appreciated
[02:58] <DaskreecH> Not sure. Did you try just running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from a terminal
[02:59] <DaskreecH> ken: alt+F2 -> Konsole -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <indystorm> hmmm no let me try that
[03:01] <ken> DaskreecH: states "already the newest version"
[03:01] <DaskreecH> ken: and alt-F2 -> package gives you no results ?
[03:02] <DaskreecH> basso: ctrl+F8 is fun too :)
[03:02] <ken> DaskreecH: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 345 not upgraded
[03:03] <DaskreecH> ken: that's from what?
[03:03] <ken> konsole
[03:03] <ken> DaskreecH: no longer able to update
[03:04] <DaskreecH> I meant what command did you try for that?
[03:04] <ken> DaskreecH: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:04] <indystorm> hmmm that worked from the command line- now the package manager opens
[03:07] <DaskreecH> ken: Ok cool press alt+f2 -> update and tell me if you get anything
[03:09] <ken> DaskreecH: KDEuBlog
[03:09] <DaskreecH> serious?
[03:09] <DaskreecH> hmm
[03:09] <ken> DaskreecH: aggrivatingly serious...
[03:09] <DaskreecH> try sudo apt-get install muon
[03:10] <DaskreecH> indystorm: Whoot :)
[03:10] <ken> DaskreecH: muon is installed by broken - crashes
[03:10] <DaskreecH> ah it's installed it just doesn't run?
[03:10] <ken> yes
[03:11] <DaskreecH> what's kdesudo muon-updater say when you run it from konsole?
[03:11] <DaskreecH> if it's long you can pastebin it
[03:11] <DaskreecH> !pastebin
[03:15] <ken> http://imagebin.org/196277
[03:17] <ken> DaskreecH & ubottu: thanks for the pastebin and imagebin
[03:18] <ken> DaskreecH: there are over 300 updates
[03:18] <DaskreecH> and clicking install updates does what?
[03:18] <ken> takes 2 hours... :)
[03:19] <ken> installing now, but, I was very used to having the updates come up in the notification bar and the add/remove software as part of the system settings
[03:20] <ken> did 11.10 take that out?
[03:20] <DaskreecH> Not sure there is a muon-notifier that does that
[03:21] <ken> when add/remove was part of the system settings I would get notifications every week
[03:23] <DaskreecH> well maybe that should be added back :)
[03:24] <DaskreecH> muon-installer is installed right?
[03:24] <ken> DaskreecH: thanks for your help, I'll finish the updates and see what happens after the reboot
[03:25] <ken> DaskreecH: not sure
[03:25] <DaskreecH> alright
[03:25] <DaskreecH> later ken
[03:25] <ken> I think it's broke, I'll have to reinstall it
[03:25] <ken> later DaskreecH thanks again
[03:25] <DaskreecH> :-)
[03:26] <zx225> looking for help with ubuntu software center in kde
[03:27] <DaskreecH> sure what's up?
[03:53]  * DaskreecH pokes zx225
[03:53] <zx225> sorry
[03:54] <zx225> when i select [install] nothing happens
[03:56] <DaskreecH> so you search for something. mark it to install then click install and ... nothing reacts?
[03:56] <zx225> yes
[03:56] <zx225> i can get the package installed with apt-get no problem
[03:57] <zx225> but when using the ubuntu software centre the install button
[03:57] <zx225> is clickable but nothing happens
[03:59] <DaskreecH> Not sure. Haven't heard that happen before
[03:59] <DaskreecH> It asked for your password?
[03:59] <zx225> no it does not
[04:00] <zx225> it might be something bonehead i am doing ... i am fairly new to ubuntu
[04:03] <DaskreecH> how goes ken?
[04:04] <DaskreecH> zx225: Ok lets try this. close the software center and run gksudo software-center
[04:05] <zx225> ok stand by
[04:06] <zx225> oh wow
[04:06] <zx225> very nice
[04:06] <DaskreecH> works?
[04:06] <ken> DaskreecH: BAD
[04:06] <DaskreecH> You Know it You know it
[04:06] <zx225> yes
[04:06] <zx225> very nice
[04:06] <zx225> thank you
[04:07] <DaskreecH> zx225: Ok it's just not running with the right privileges
[04:07] <ken> DaskreecH: updater locked at 51% installing. Lost all access to home folder... now I can not finish updating
[04:08] <DaskreecH> ken: hmm?
[04:08] <DaskreecH> what are you doing now?
[04:15] <DaskreecH> ken: what's going on?
[04:19] <ken> DaskreecH: this installation is hosed! I am going to reinstall and AGAIN format the root... I'm losing everything and can't even reboot
[04:19] <DaskreecH> ken: whats' happeneing?
[04:19] <ken> screen shots coming
[04:20] <DaskreecH> ok
[04:21] <ken> http://imagebin.org/196285
[04:21] <ken> http://imagebin.org/196286
[04:22] <ken> there's one more
[04:25] <ken> http://imagebin.org/196287
[04:30] <DaskreecH> ken: disable that repo
[04:33] <ken> DaskreecH: Executable: muon-installer PID: 2120 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[04:33] <DaskreecH> ken: when does that happen?
[04:34] <ken> when I open muon
[04:34] <DaskreecH> ha
[04:34] <DaskreecH> ok open a konsole
[04:35] <ken> ok
[04:35] <ken> donre
[04:35] <ken> done
[04:35] <DaskreecH> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:36] <ken> DaskreecH: hope you're ready for this
[04:36]  * DaskreecH gets his bottle of readying juice
[04:39] <zx225> das
[04:40] <zx225> how do i get permissions
[04:40] <zx225> from the menu
[04:40] <zx225> on software-center
[04:41] <DaskreecH> zx225: you could edit it and just put gksudo in front of it
[04:41] <zx225> ok
[04:41] <zx225> i will try that
[04:44] <DaskreecH> ken: you can just pastebin if its a lot
[04:47] <ken> DaskreecH: how do I share the pastebin
[04:47] <DaskreecH> just give the URL here
[04:48] <DaskreecH> same as with imagebin
[04:48] <ken> how?
[04:48] <ken> DaskreecH: how do I pastebin?
[04:48] <DaskreecH> !pastebin
[04:48] <ken> DaskreecH: paste.ubuntu.com does not work
[04:48] <DaskreecH> Oh?
[04:48] <DaskreecH> try pastebin.com
[04:50] <ken> internet access is now gone
[04:50] <ken> it's getting worse
[04:50] <DaskreecH> ken: ah this is a differnt computer
[04:50] <DaskreecH> is it trying to install things?
[04:50] <DaskreecH> what is it doing?
[04:51] <ken> DaskreecH: giving me heartburn tonight
[04:51] <ken> nothing installing, can't reboot, can't access internet now...
[04:51] <DaskreecH> ... so what is it doing
[04:52] <DaskreecH> why is it getting worse ?
[04:52] <ken> nothing that I can see
[04:52] <DaskreecH> is it attempting something?
[04:52] <DaskreecH> how are you trying to reboot?
[04:52] <ken> HDD is nearly idle
[04:52] <ken> K, Leave, Restart
[04:57] <ken> DaskreecH: what is the syntax of "!pastebin" ?
[04:57] <DaskreecH> ken: the command?
[04:57] <ken> yes, how do I use it?
[04:57] <DaskreecH> The robot knows certain commands and responds to them if prefixed with a !
[04:58] <DaskreecH> ken: I would tell you to sudo apt-get install pastebinit but you say you have no internet on the computer
[04:58] <ken> ok, so I put "pastebin" in front of the large amount of items I want to paste?
[04:59] <ken> here
[05:01] <DaskreecH> pastebinit <command>
[05:02] <DaskreecH> or <command> | pastebinit
[05:02] <DaskreecH> so perhaps something like sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | pastebinit
[05:02] <DaskreecH> paste.ubuntu.com is up by the way
[05:02] <ken> ok, I'll do a small paste
[05:04] <ken> DaskreecH: pastebin Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric/universe TranslationIndex
[05:04] <ken> Err http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric/main Translation-en
[05:04] <ken>   Something wicked happened resolving 'extras.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[05:04] <DaskreecH> ken: can you run sudo apt-get install pastebinit ?
[05:05] <ken> sorry for the flood
[05:06] <ken> DaskreecH: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:06] <DaskreecH> ha
[05:06] <DaskreecH> try that.
[05:06] <ken> trying it now
[05:07] <DaskreecH> sudo dpkg --configure -a should install all the packages you pulled already
[05:07] <ken> not holding my breath this time... I passed out last time... :)
[05:08] <ken> so far it appears to be working
[05:08] <DaskreecH> :-)
[05:08] <DaskreecH> I'll wait for the sobbing
[05:09] <ken> LOL - it stopped / completed? should I try to reboot?
[05:09] <ken> Setting up kde-window-manager (4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1) ...
[05:10] <ken> this is what it looked like
[05:17] <DaskreecH> damn it :)
[05:17] <DaskreecH> No don't reboot!
[05:53] <ken> DaskreecH: back online
[05:53] <ken> DaskreecH: I needed to reinstall
[05:53] <ken> kubuntu
[05:54] <DaskreecH> ken: Yeah I should have told you not to reboot
[05:54] <DaskreecH> you still needed two more things tofix
[05:54] <DaskreecH> ah wel
[05:54] <DaskreecH> Hopefully you didn't lose anythin
[05:55] <ken> just my patience
[05:55] <ken> you would not have been able to tell me anyway, I completely lost internet connection
[05:56] <DaskreecH> Oh it's the same machine?
[05:56] <DaskreecH>  I thought you were on a different computer?
[05:58] <DaskreecH> sudo dhclient might have fixed that right up
[05:59] <ken> ah
[05:59] <ken> I'm installing the updates again to see what happens
[06:01] <ken> nope, all the same computer
[06:03] <DaskreecH> alright
[06:03] <DaskreecH>  do you get a update notification now?
[06:04] <ken> no, I followed the steps outlined earlier
[06:04] <DaskreecH> ok
[06:10] <ken> Downloaded, now preparing
[06:10] <DaskreecH> k
[06:18] <ken> ugh! locked on "Preparing kmousetool" 50%
[06:20] <DaskreecH> How long has it been there?
[06:20] <ken> 5 minuuutes now
[06:20] <ken> minutes
[06:21] <DaskreecH> That's not right :-/
[06:21] <DaskreecH> can you open another konsole?
[06:22] <DaskreecH> type apt-cache policy kmousetool
[06:23] <ken> ok
[06:23] <ken> what next?
[06:23] <DaskreecH> copy the output ot paste.ubuntu.com
[06:23] <DaskreecH> to
[06:24] <ken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/822250/
[06:26] <DaskreecH> looks like it's installed already
[06:28] <DaskreecH> still sittin there not doing anything huh?
[06:28] <ken> yup
[06:28] <ken> nothing
[06:28] <DaskreecH> ok press Ctrl+C in that Konsole
[06:29] <ken> done
[06:29] <DaskreecH> stopped?
[06:29] <DaskreecH> sudo apt-get install kmousetool
[06:29] <ken> whick ckonsole?
[06:29] <ken> Bash? or Software updates?
[06:30] <DaskreecH> Oh you are doing this in software updates?
[06:30] <DaskreecH> not in bash?
[06:30] <ken> yes, software updates
[06:30] <DaskreecH> oh bleh :)
[06:30] <DaskreecH> close that
[06:31] <ken> it won't let me
[06:31] <ken> grayed out
[06:31] <DaskreecH> Errors out?
[06:31] <DaskreecH> can you close the whole application?
[06:32] <ken> no, while updating, it disables all menu functions and the little red "x" in the upper right
[06:32] <DaskreecH> Ah smart
[06:33] <ken> I don't want to kill this thing again
[06:34] <DaskreecH> how did you kill it last time?
[06:35] <ken> really??? well <only out of frustration> I pressed the lettle blue button on the tower... o_O
[06:35] <DaskreecH> oh dear
[06:35] <DaskreecH> alt+ctrl+Esc wworks better
[06:36] <ken> done
[06:36] <DaskreecH> ok in the konsole put sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <ken> got the skull and clicked on the window, it disappeared
[06:37] <ken> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:37] <ken> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:38] <ken> reboot and try again? or logout and try again
[06:38] <DaskreecH> Nope
[06:38] <DaskreecH> don't reboot
[06:38] <ken> ok
[06:39] <ken> Logout and back in?
[06:39] <DaskreecH> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:40] <DaskreecH> or lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock first
[06:40] <ken> lsof: status error on first: No such file or directory
[06:41] <DaskreecH> sudo rom /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:41] <DaskreecH> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:42] <ken> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:42] <DaskreecH> ok
[06:43] <DaskreecH> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:43] <DaskreecH> if net drops run sudo dhclient
[06:43] <ken> k
[06:44] <ken> Setting up...
[06:44] <DaskreecH> stream of stuff
[06:44] <ken> yes
[06:45] <DaskreecH> ken: ok let me know when that's done
[06:45] <ken> updated grub, back to setting up
[06:45] <ken> k
[06:47] <ken> DaskreecH: Done
[06:47] <DaskreecH> ken: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:47] <DaskreecH> well
[06:47] <DaskreecH> first
[06:47] <DaskreecH> ken: sudo apt-get install kmousetool
[06:48] <ken> kmousetool is already the newest version.
[06:48] <DaskreecH> ha that's what I thought
[06:48] <DaskreecH>  ok run the apt-get update command i gave earlier
[06:48] <ken> done
[06:49] <DaskreecH> no errors?
[06:49] <ken> running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:49] <ken> no no errors
[06:49] <DaskreecH> dist-upgrade is done?
[06:49] <ken> getting screen shot
[06:50] <ken> all applications are missing...
[06:50] <ken> can't find the screen shot tool
[06:51] <DaskreecH> Press Printscreen
[06:52] <ken> ok, I did
[06:53] <DaskreecH> and uploaded the screenshot?
[06:54] <ken> where am I pasting it?
[06:56] <DaskreecH> !pastebin
[06:56] <DaskreecH> imagebin.org should work
[06:56] <ken> here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!   http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[06:57] <DaskreecH> Thre is a much faster way to do this if you like :)
[06:58] <ken> sure
[06:59] <DaskreecH> right click on the desktop and choose add widgets
[06:59] <DaskreecH> (unlock if it's locked currently)
[06:59] <DaskreecH> in the dialog that comes up click on the search filter and type paste
[07:00] <DaskreecH> You should get two choices. Paste and pastebin
[07:00] <ken> there are no items in add a new widget
[07:00] <DaskreecH> you can drag pastebin to where ever you would like (I keep mine on a panel to the side but the desktop works fine)
[07:00] <DaskreecH> ken: Oh
[07:00] <DaskreecH> hmm
[07:00] <DaskreecH> You said all the applications disappeared?
[07:00] <DaskreecH>  what did you mean by that?
[07:00] <ken> yes
[07:01] <ken> click "k"
[07:01] <ken> then
[07:01] <ken> Applications
[07:01] <ken> all is blank
[07:01] <DaskreecH> hmm
[07:01] <DaskreecH> ok
[07:01] <ken> this is a very fresh install
[07:02] <DaskreecH> Yeah I figured
[07:02] <DaskreecH> does alt+f2 work?
[07:02] <ken> what time do you usually get on this?
[07:02] <ken> yes
[07:02] <DaskreecH> about 10:00
[07:03] <ken> it's 2 am just getting a bit tires
[07:03] <ken> tired
[07:03] <ken> gmt?
[07:03] <DaskreecH> EST
[07:03] <DaskreecH> can you right click the K and choose edit applications
[07:03] <DaskreecH> let me know if that's empty as well
[07:04] <ken> not empty
[07:04] <DaskreecH> ok  thanks
[07:04] <DaskreecH> You are going to sleep now?
[07:05] <almoxarife> the desktop is in plasma-desktop mode?
[07:05] <ken> trying not to... I do have to work later today. :)
[07:05] <ken> yes
[07:06] <almoxarife> in plasma mode the desktop does not populate with icons, it would look empty
[07:06] <DaskreecH> almoxarife: it's the menu that's empty
[07:07] <ken> almoxarife: plasma is not the issue. K menu is
[07:07] <almoxarife> menu? DaskreecH
[07:07] <DaskreecH> almoxarife: The menu in the bottom left corner (by default)
[07:08] <almoxarife> DaskreecH: got you, the launcher
[07:09] <ken> DaskreecH: if it is safe to reboot, I'm going to do that and back with you later today.
[07:09] <ken> if not, I will just shut the monitor off
[07:11] <DaskreecH> ken: I think you should be safe to reboot but if you like you can just leave the monitor off
[07:12] <ken> DaskreecH: I would like to try a reboot to see if I get my home folder back.. BTW, it is in a separate partition
[07:16] <DaskreecH> better?
[07:16] <ken> app have populated
[07:16] <DaskreecH> That I expected
[07:17] <ken> pastebin added to desktop
[07:17] <ken> anything to try be I sign off for now?
[07:17] <DaskreecH> Nope I think you should be ok
[07:18] <DaskreecH> can tackle muon crashing in the morning
[07:18] <ken> should I try the updates in konsole again?
[07:18] <ken> ok
[07:18] <DaskreecH> sure
[07:18] <DaskreecH> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:18] <DaskreecH>  I don't think there should be anything of note
[07:19] <ken> states all is up to date
[07:19] <DaskreecH> Right
[07:19] <DaskreecH> so enjoy
[07:19] <ken> ok
[07:20] <ken> 10 am or pm?
[07:20] <DaskreecH> am
[07:20] <ken> ok
[07:20] <ken> THANK YOU for ll your help tonight (this morning)
[07:20] <DaskreecH> sure
[07:22] <almoxarife> DaskreecH: is there a built in dock in kde4 akin to cairo-dock with less overhead?
[07:22] <DaskreecH> Akin?
[07:22] <DaskreecH> what kinship are you looking for?
[07:23] <almoxarife> kinda like, sort of same, does same, etc
[07:23] <DaskreecH> Then no not as far as I know
[07:35] <naftilos76> hi everyone, after upgrading to KDE 4.8 i can see that virtuoso-t is keeping CPU busy and never stops. It will restart doing the same thing even if i kill the process. Does anybody have a clue what is going on?
[08:00] <snow_wons> I have problems with tp-link wireless usb, using ath9k_htc driver -I think- the internet disconnect after a minute after connecting
[08:02] <almoxarife> snow_wons: sure its not the router kicking you ?
[09:18] <fatum> hi there... is KDE 4.8 out already?
[09:19] <snow_wons> almoxarife: yes, it is working properly on wired network
[10:00] <Sentynel> hi, just updated my desktop to 4.8 and kdm crashes on startup with the error message "Cannot open theme file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/horos". I grepped through the local and system kde dirs and couldn't find any references to horos in the conf; any suggestions?
[11:33] <e01> hello, i found a weird bug in kubuntu precise
[11:33] <e01> when i using dolphin and click over a video files then preview, the whole X server go crash
[11:34] <Riddell> e01: that'll be hard to pin down but it likely an X problem
[11:35] <Riddell> I've heard a couple of moans about similar
[11:35] <e01> so, it's reported
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[12:44] <ArchangelSe7en> hullo
[12:55] <squid0> hi. I just upgraded to some 4.8 (beta?) backages on an ubuntu ppa, and now kde won't start. I get a message saying X can't find fglrx - but my system should not be using fglrx! When I try to log in at the kdm prompt, I get a black screen for a second, and then I'm back to login. please help
[12:55] <squid0> sorry
[12:56] <squid0> hi. I just upgraded to some 4.8 (beta?) backages on an ubuntu ppa, and now kde won't start. I get a message saying X can't find fglrx - but my system should not be using fglrx! When I try to log in at the kdm prompt, I get a black screen for a second, and then I'm back to login. please help
[13:00] <felipe__> hola
[13:19] <raymears> hi people. using kde 4.8 from backports with kubuntu 11.10. virtuoso-t keeps using 10-15%cpu.. and that is quite painful on my dualcore. (after a while it gets rather noisy)
[13:20] <raymears> i do not mind starting fresh with nepomuk.. i tried deleting the indexes from ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/...
[13:20] <raymears> did not really help. any idea what i could do about it?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> raymears,  akonadi perhaps . it can be a hog too
[13:22] <raymears> hmm.. i did not have any of these issues until i switched to...
[13:22] <raymears> 4.8 rc2
[13:22] <raymears> i just discovered that it was indexing stuff again. i think i ought to give it some more time to finish up
[13:22] <BluesKaj> raymears,  al+f2  kcmshell4 kcm_nepomuk , and for other options .kcmshell4 kcmkded
[13:24] <raymears> hehe. thanks. never knew the command line shortucts.
[13:24] <raymears> i was looking at the panels, i guess i'll wait and let it finish indexing
[13:25] <raymears> thanks BluesKaj
[13:28] <BluesKaj> raymears,  mears, one can do the same in system settings >startup&shutdown
[13:28] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:28] <BluesKaj> my tab key is acting up again
[13:37] <savio> hey
[13:37] <savio> i need help about my trash?
[13:37] <savio> it show it's full everytime i delete something
[13:37] <savio> want help?
[13:46] <DaskreecH> savio: Is it full?
[13:51] <savio> not actully
[13:51] <savio> it's totally empty
[13:52] <savio> but after deleting something it print warning that it fully delete something
[13:52] <savio> manually
[14:01] <ion__> anybody knows whether this problem is already solver or not ...http://www.techworld.com.au/article/413300/linux_vendors_rush_patch_privilege_escalation_flaw_after_root_exploits_emerge
[14:42] <Guest45981> hi all
[14:44] <DaskreecH> hi
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hey DaskreecH
[14:47]  * BluesKaj explores the the kcmshell4
[14:48] <DaskreecH> BluesKaj: not a lot to explore it just wraps kcms
[14:48] <DaskreecH> hi :)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> DaskreecH,  never used it much , but appears tob a quicker method to direct users to system settings etc
[14:49] <BluesKaj> to be
[14:51] <BluesKaj> also beginning to appreciate krusader options a lot more than previous tries
[14:51] <cypr1nus> hello, is anyone using kde 4.8 from backports? and faced no responses from kde?
[14:51] <DaskreecH> BluesKaj: Which is what it is.
[14:51] <DaskreecH> cypr1nus: By which you mean you click or press a button and nothing responds but alt+ctrl+F2 works?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> cypr1nus,  describe "no responses" , what's not happening
[14:52] <cypr1nus> DaskreecH: I only see response, after switching console ctrl-alt-f2 and back to kde
[14:53] <DaskreecH> sounds like your video driver is messed up
[14:53] <DaskreecH> Or kwin one of the two
[14:53] <DaskreecH> do you have desktop effects on?
[14:53] <cypr1nus> DaskreecH: just turned them off, restart kdm and see if works
[14:54] <cypr1nus> but kdm work ok
[14:55] <cypr1nus> hah, effect messed up, i've turned them off :) thanks
[14:56] <BluesKaj> cypr1nus,  onboard graphics ?
[14:57] <cypr1nus> nope, nvidia
[14:57] <DaskreecH> cypr1nus: Yeah OpenGL would have a fullscreen rewrite which can be miss directed i guess you would say. So the screen shuld be redrawn and that doen't happen so it looks like everything is stuck
[14:58] <cypr1nus> DaskreecH: i guess that correct interpretation ;] i'll play with settings, to turn on effects
[14:58] <DaskreecH> ok
[14:59] <BluesKaj> hmm, nvidia-current and kde 4.8 seem work together well here , open GL etc
[15:00] <cypr1nus> BluesKaj: i've been using nvidia-173, but i'll switch to current and see if it'll solve this issue
[15:00] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , cypr1nus?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> check in additional drivers /jockey to see which driver is recommended , cypr1nus
[15:01] <cypr1nus> 7660, old but still working ;]
[15:02] <BluesKaj> mine is a 7600gt ..works great with nvidia-current
[15:02] <cypr1nus> brb ;]
[16:58] <meNtha> hm
[16:58] <meNtha> there is any prog in kubuntu like manycam? streaming a pic on my pc over webcam?
[17:54] <hyagus> Hey, I have a new keyboard layout, I add a layout
[17:54] <hyagus> How switch to layout ?
[17:54] <hyagus> (I want to keep both layouts)
[17:55] <hyagus> KDE 4.6.5
[18:54] <alexandr> Всем привет))))))))))))
[18:55] <bazhang> !ru | alexandr
[18:55] <alexandr> Русские то есть?
[19:00] <Hronom> Есть канешн)
[19:02] <JuJuBee> I currently use kubuntu on a server for my classroom.  I am contemplating setting up a true server (without GUI).  What should I use to do this?  ubuntu server or kubuntu alternate?  I dont see a kubuntu server version (i expect it is simply ubuntu if no GUI installed)
[19:04] <styan> hi
[19:08] <rork> !ru  | Hronom
[19:46] <orated> Hello! I'm unable to open Dolphin, Amarok and Ark or instance which requires to save file or open file or use file manager in any way.. Please guide me how to fix it. I've noticed this a lot after recent update. Kubuntu 11.10 KDE 4.8
[19:58] <K350> I can't start Tilda. There's an 'segmentation error' what's that and what do I do to fix it?
[20:08] <mirrakor> after the latest update my KDE-PIM applications don't start anymore, anyone exprienced the same?
[20:08] <mirrakor> (seems nepomuk/akonadi related)
[20:09] <orated> mirrakor: Yes, same her
[20:09] <orated> e
[20:09] <mirrakor> orated: oh good, I'm not alone *gg* any solution yet?
[20:10] <orated> Even I asked something like that before you joined
[20:10] <orated> Are you able to access Nepomuk using system settings?
[20:10] <mirrakor> orated: yes, even though it takes some time ( I guess some sort of timeout)
[20:12] <orated> hello
[20:12] <orated> !
[20:15] <mirrakor> orated: I'm back, it seems I figured out a workaround for that problem (not ideal, but works comfortable and well)
[20:16] <jschall> i have a gui apt package manager (muon) that was running an update and got stuck on setting up openjdk. I assume it's waiting for me to accept a license, but it is not displaying a dialog. how can i get it to keep going?
[20:16] <orated> I was saying - Yes, exactly. I wanted to try if disabling nepomuk fixes it
[20:16] <orated> mirrakor: ^ when you left
[20:16] <jessie> jschall: Is there a "Details" button?
[20:17] <mirrakor> orated: exactly :D disableling nepomuk "suppresses" it ;)
[20:17] <orated> mirrakor: What did you do?
[20:17] <orated> Great!
[20:17] <orated> My bad that I cannot open system settings now
[20:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> kubuntu 11.10 on 512 ram is that going to run ok?
[20:18] <mirrakor> orated: sure you can't open it? it took about 1 minute or so to open it for me (while it appeared to be frozen)
[20:18] <mirrakor> mydogsnameisrudy: depends on what you want to run on it
[20:19] <orated> mirrakor: It opens after 15 seconds then if I click on Desktop Search option, it doesn't respond
[20:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> lmms
[20:19] <mirrakor> orated: have you tried letting it work in the background?
[20:19] <orated> yes, even now its attempting to
[20:20] <mirrakor> mydogsnameisrudy: no experience with that, but I'm afraid that editing audio/video material usually requires quite a bit ram
[20:20] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm ok
[20:20] <mirrakor> orated: ok, can you try to disabled it via the terminal
[20:21] <orated> mirrakor: Not sure how to disable it from konsole
[20:23] <mirrakor> orated: ok, good point, try: qdbus org.kde.NepomukServer/nepomukserver quit
[20:24] <orated> mirrakor: Everything stopped working at a very bad time..Word document open, simulator file work cannot be saved as file browser doesn't open.. everything almost closing
[20:24] <orated> mirrakor: It says - Service 'org.kde.NepomukServer/nepomukserver' is not a valid name.
[20:24] <mirrakor> orated: oh, try with a space before the /nepomukserver
[20:25] <mirrakor> orated: but cpu load is stable?
[20:26] <orated> mirrakor: 12% for quadcore. Service 'org.kde.NepomukServer' does not exist.
[20:26]  * gerent is away: Gone away for now
[20:26] <orated> mirrakor: Worked now
[20:28] <mirrakor> orated: ok, now you can try disableling nepomuk autostart: sudo mv /usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop ~/backup_of_nepomukserver.desktop
[20:28] <orated> Done
[20:29] <mirrakor> orated: ok, now the sad part: I think you've to relogin (or even restart?).  There might be another way, that avoids this procedure, but I can only guess here unfortunately ...
[20:31] <orated> mirrakor: Let me try..
[20:31] <mirrakor> (Maybe using  "ps aux | grep nepomuk" and killing some processes that come up could help, but I don't want the one to be blamed if anything goes wrong :D )
[20:31] <orated> umm
[20:32] <orated> mirrakor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/823020/
[20:33] <mirrakor> orated: there should be a softer way, but in the end you can enter "kill 4196" to kill the nepomukcontroller
[20:33] <mirrakor> orated: the akonadi feeder shouldn't bother us
[20:34] <mirrakor> (and the last one is the grep command you just used)
[20:34] <orated> What about nepomuk feeder?
[20:35] <jschall> i ended up with a hosed system after muon ran updates. kdm doesn't have any sessions available, kdm's background is black, and it just kicks me back out if i try to log in
[20:35] <mirrakor> orated: you can kill it or let it be, shouldn't make a difference. It's a part of akonadi that combines your data with metadata provided by nepomuk, but if nepomuk is not running that feeder should return nothing
[20:36] <mirrakor> jschall: are you familiar with the ttys (Strg+Alt+F1-F5) ?
[20:36] <jschall> mirrakor: yes
[20:36] <jschall> mirrakor: what do i run to fix it?
[20:37] <mirrakor> jschall: just for testing purposes I'd suggest you move your ~/.kde to ~/.backup_kde and  try to restart kdm
[20:37] <jschall> mirrakor: mirrakorthat doesn't have anything to do with the kdm sessions, though
[20:37] <jschall> mirrakor: it's not a userland problem that i have
[20:37] <jschall> mirrakor: kdm doesn't show a kde session
[20:38] <mirrakor> jschall: oh, ok. So you can't select an KDE desktop?
[20:38] <jschall> mirrakor: no
[20:38] <jschall> mirrakor: something's hosed
[20:39] <mirrakor> jschall: Then I've no idea :/
[20:40] <jschall> mirrakor: only apt sources other than the default i have installed are google-chrome and ppa:gnumdk, and if i try to ppa-purge gnumdk it tries to remove 128 packages, which is basically all of kde
[20:41] <mirrakor> jschall: well, that could be part of the problem
[20:41] <mirrakor> jschall: does gnumdk contain any kde packages or just a dependency for them?
[20:41] <jschall> mirrakor: well, i'm not sure exactly
[20:42] <jschall> mirrakor: i assume so
[20:43] <mirrakor> jschall: got an url to the ppa?
[20:43] <jschall> https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ppa
[20:43] <mirrakor> jschall: it indeed contains some kde packages, so it is ok that it tries to remove them when you purge it
[20:44] <jschall> mirrakor: it tries to remove a whole shitload of packages, including things like libcups2
[20:45] <mirrakor> jschall: probably all of kde ..., hm.. it doesn't provide you an option to use another version of those packages? (can you paste the output?)
[20:45] <orated> jschall: Do you have v86d package installed?
[20:45] <jschall> mirrakor: i can't paste anything
[20:45] <jschall> orated: no
[20:45] <mirrakor> oh yeah, right *gg* jschall wgetpaste is a very nice app for such situations :)
[20:45] <orated> jschall: pastebinit?
[20:47] <jschall> i'm on a system with the same setup, i'm guessing it'll be hosed if i restart it too
[20:47] <jschall> so i can paste it from here
[20:48] <orated> mirrakor: I had a similar issue of no ttys working. I remember fixing it with v86d and small change to grub
[20:48] <jschall> orated: ttys are working fine.
[20:48] <jschall> orated: kde is what's hosed
[20:50] <jschall> http://pastebin.com/FGKUpYb0
[20:50] <jschall> mirrakor
[20:54] <orated> jschall: Can you create new user?
[20:54] <orated> user acc
[20:54] <jschall> a user account is not going to fix it.
[20:54] <orated> It can help to test the issue with KDE
[20:55] <mirrakor> jschall: yes, it's a dependency problem, good news: it can be fixed, bad news: it requires some trial and error (:
[20:56] <jschall> mirrakor: why am i seeing packages from gnumdk that aren't in gnumdk when i look at it on its ppa site?
[20:56] <jschall> mirrakor: like kde-workspace-data
[20:57] <jschall> mirrakor: i need a way to downgrade all packages that are from gnumdk
[20:57] <jschall> mirrakor: except ppa-purge doesn't work
[20:59] <mirrakor> jschall: before we go on, please execute "dpkg --get-selections > installed_software"
[20:59] <mirrakor> jschall: it will create a list of currently installed packages, just in case :D
[21:00] <jschall> ok
[21:01] <jschall> so i have a ton of packages that are like this: *** 4:4.8.0b-11.10ubuntu1~gnumdk5 0
[21:01] <jschall>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[21:01] <jschall>      4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1 0
[21:01] <jschall>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 Packages
[21:01] <FloodBotK1> jschall: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <jschall> and i want to downgrade all of them to the ubuntu repo versions
[21:02] <jschall> why can't ppas be removed properly? ppa-purge is a joke, it has broken things every time i've tried to use it.
[21:03] <mirrakor> jschall: *gg* actually I come from gentoo and only use ubuntu on my laptop where I don't want to compile packages, so I can't tell to much about purge *gg* But technically I think purge does it's job, but in this case there's a dependency problem that it doesn't know how to solve
[21:03] <jschall> the weird thing is that the gnumdk repository is only supposed to have 10 packages in it
[21:03] <jschall> except that i have hundreds of packages from it
[21:04] <orated> jschall: add-apt-repository accepts a -r removes the PPA. Did you try that?
[21:04] <mirrakor> jschall: try removing kmenuedit manually (aptitude purge kmenuedit)
[21:06] <mirrakor> (actually te gnumdk ppa has 142 packages)
[21:07] <jschall> oh, "Warning: This PPA depends on ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" is probably something i ignored
[21:07] <jschall> or didn't see
[21:08] <mirrakor> *gg* I think that's the source of the dependency problems
[21:08] <jschall> mirrakor: k i removed kmenuedit and i'm trying purge again
[21:08] <mirrakor> jschall: can you use nopaste again?
[21:09] <jschall> http://pastebin.com/DUyKTz3T
[21:09] <jschall> mirrakor:
[21:10] <mirrakor> jschall: aptitude purge kde-workspace-bin kde-style-oxygen
[21:11] <mirrakor> we're trying to remove one block after another, if a package should really depend on it, it should pull it back in [but from time to time packagename changes and that causes problems]
[21:13]  * gerent is back.
[21:15] <mirrakor> orated: were you sucessfull btw.?
[21:19] <yuriy> hi, I am trying to connect to OpenVPN.  There doesn't seem to be a place to set the port.
[21:19] <orated> mirrakor: Yea
[21:19] <yuriy> I tried putting ip:port for the gateway, and it doesn't complain, but still tries to connect to the default port
[21:20] <mirrakor> yuriy: using networkmanager?
[21:20] <orated> And thanks for the command to disable nepomuk mirrakor
[21:20] <jschall_> mirrakor: http://pastebin.com/VzHVGdax
[21:20] <yuriy> mirrakor: yes, using the plasmoid
[21:20] <jschall_> mirrakor: i think i should probably just reinstall the system, this is going to leave me with a bunch of problems.
[21:20] <jschall_> mirrakor: that i'll be dealing with forever
[21:21] <mirrakor> jschall_: the list is shrinking :D But you could reinstall the system (backup your ~/ and copy it back in and most things should be like before - you'd have to install the missing packages of course)
[21:21] <orated> mirrakor: But I'm thinking to try to purge kde 4.8 too and reinstall kde 4.7 from official repo
[21:21] <mirrakor> or you could also try to accept the solution purge provides and try to reinstall kde again
[21:22] <jschall_> mirrakor: only problem is i have a whole lot of little things that break when i reinstall and i have to go through and fix them all
[21:22] <ubuntu__> hi
[21:22] <mirrakor> hi ubuntu__
[21:22] <jschall_> mirrakor: have to figure out how to install my printer driver, have to figure out how to get my vpn to work, etc etc etc
[21:22] <ubuntu__> im trying install aircrack and give me error
[21:23] <ubuntu__> try search but nothing
[21:23] <mirrakor> jschall_: then accept the solution purge provides, and rather just reinstall kde
[21:23] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: which error?
[21:23] <ubuntu__> using debian package say dependency of package iw
[21:23] <mirrakor> jschall_: when you reinstall kde the dependencies of kde should pull in the packages you need (like libcups)
[21:24] <jschall_> mirrakor: what package do i install to install kde?
[21:24] <ubuntu__> I run this sudo apt-get install libiw30
[21:24] <ubuntu__> and say have last version
[21:25] <mirrakor> jschall_: it's a meta-package called kubuntu-desktop
[21:26] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: can you copy and paste the whole output of "apt-get install aircrack-ng" on pastebin.com ?
[21:26] <ubuntu__> can't find it
[21:26] <jschall_> mirrakor: what if i installed the kubuntu-ppa/backports repo, would that make it easier for ppa-purge to get me back to stability?
[21:26] <ubuntu__> I dowload package and doing by hand
[21:27] <ubuntu__> wait
[21:27] <mirrakor> jschall_: actually I think the opposite is true, if you want the pure "stable" kde from the ubuntu repos,  you should drop kubuntu-ppa/backports too
[21:27] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: any particular reason?
[21:28] <jschall_> mirrakor: kubuntu-desktop is not putting everything back by a long shot
[21:28] <ubuntu__> http://pastebin.com/s6eRc7Bj
[21:29] <ubuntu__> its translated to my nation language
[21:29] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: I'll bother google with it, just a sec
[21:30] <mirrakor> jschall_: hm.. actually it should, on the other hand it is possible that your kde uses packages from the backports repo
[21:30] <jschall_> mirrakor: no backports repo.
[21:30] <jschall_> mirrakor: ever installed on this system. only gnumdk.
[21:31] <ubuntu__> http://pastebin.com/eDd0Sm7k
[21:31] <ubuntu__> when I install libiw
[21:32] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: apparently if the portugeese of my father in law is good enough (*gg*) aircrack-ng is already installed!
[21:33] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: can you run "sudo aircrack-ng --help" ?
[21:37] <ubuntu__> ohhh you righy
[21:38] <ubuntu__> so many time spent for nothing :(
[21:38] <ubuntu__> thanks
[21:39] <pozzz> I need help with kGuitar. Does anyone use it?
[21:39] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: *gg*
[21:39] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: see if it works (there's a small chance that it doesn't, feel free to come back in that case :) )
[21:40] <ubuntu__> because the drivers?
[21:41] <ubuntu__> ok I need disconnect
[21:41] <ubuntu__> see you
[21:41] <mirrakor> ubuntu__: no because it's bubbling something about an unmet requirement or so, but apparently it is installed (to be honest I'm not sure what the portugeese message says exactly)
[21:46] <reservado> good afternoon
[21:47] <reservado> HI, i need to activate my wireless, but KDE infrom that the card is disconected by hardware, anyone can help?
[21:48] <James1479> reservado: there a button or switch on the laptop to enable/disable wireless?
[21:48] <reservado> yes, but it dont work
[21:49] <James1479> reservado: I find disabling and reenabling the network after pressing it can help
[21:49] <reservado> will try
[21:53] <reservado> in fact now we have to use service networking start (but not working)
[21:54] <BarkingFish> Anyone know what is going on with the floodbots?  I've never seen them de-op each other :)
[21:56] <reservado> hello, i'm trying to activate my wireless card
[21:58] <metralha761> hi again
[21:58] <Jttyuser> Hi
[21:59] <metralha761> I have an error with sudo airmon-ng start wlan0
[21:59] <Jttyuser> Plz link irc commandeso
[21:59] <metralha761> wlan0           Atheros         ath9k - [phy0]
[21:59] <metralha761> ERROR: Neither the sysfs interface links nor the iw command is available.
[22:00] <Jttyuser> !help
[22:00] <metralha761> hmm ok
[22:02] <jessie> metralha761: Are you doing it as root?
[22:02] <jessie> metralha761: Nevermind, I see the sudo now.
[22:02] <metralha761> http://pastebin.com/0AJ6pJWp
[22:03] <reservado> kde informs that the wirwless card is disabled by hardware (and on/off button is not responding  - broadcom 4312)
[22:04] <jessie> metralha761: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:04] <reservado> and iwlist wlan0 scan say that network is down
[22:05] <metralha761> kubuntu 11.10
[22:05] <metralha761> its liveCD persistent
[22:05] <jessie> In a terminal, what does 'type iw' return.
[22:06] <francois_> hi there
[22:07] <reservado> no one knows how can i activate a wireless card?
[22:07] <francois_> anybody else having problem with skype since kde 4.8 ?
[22:07] <francois_> reservado: what do you mean, activate ?
[22:07] <metralha761> iw nothing but have some starting with iw
[22:08] <reservado> the card is deactivated by hardware
[22:08] <reservado> is listed by lspci
[22:09] <reservado> and the physical button on the laptop
[22:09] <reservado> not working
[22:09] <metralha761> reservado não te mostra as varias redes?
[22:12] <metralha761> oh I need install iw, and I have iwconfig
[22:20] <jessie> metralha761: do a 'sudo apt-get install iw'
[22:27] <metralha761> give me error
[22:28] <metralha761> say cant find package
[22:28] <jessie> metralha761: Hmm... Are you sure you are on 11.10?
[22:29] <metralha761> how can I see that?
[22:33] <metralha761> hmmm I think I know why I cant install some package, not have free space
[22:34] <pedahzur> So, I know about system76, and like what I've heard and read.  Does anyone have any other pointers for a reliable, established vendor that sells works-with-linux laptops?
[22:35] <metralha761> I back later, maybe
[23:47] <levi501de> So I am having some serious lag issues with Xorg and what seems to be chrome since this last big update, anyone have similar problems?
[23:48] <levi501de> some info on the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/100037/xorg-11-10-kernel-3-0-0-16-generic-running-extremely-high-cpu-memory-was-a-bug
[23:48] <levi501de> I asked in the ubuntu site but then realized its probably a good idea to ask in the Kubuntu irc room
[23:48] <levi501de> if anyone is around that is :D
[23:52] <levi501de> I'll be back in 20 gonna reboot my machine to see if some xorg config changes make a difference
[23:54] <westmi> levi501d go with 10.04 instead of 11.10?
[23:54] <levi501de> why?
[23:54] <westmi> why not?
[23:54] <westmi> it works very good
[23:54] <westmi> stable release
[23:55] <levi501de> yeah true, i suppose i am being stubborn going for newer releases
[23:55] <levi501de> I might do that in the future, going to wipe and do full disk encryption with truecrypt at some point
[23:55] <levi501de> but i was wondering if this was a common issue
[23:55] <levi501de> i like to support furthering the system by submitting bug reports, though i havent had to with kubuntu till now
[23:56] <levi501de> i was hoping to figure out how to track down whats going on with xorg
[23:56] <levi501de> like a way to see what is querying xorg and what not
[23:56] <westmi> whatm kind of pc are you using?
[23:57] <levi501de> Kubuntu 11.10 x86_64 kernel 3.0.0-16-generic i7 @ 3.8GHz 24GB Ram NVIDIA gtx 260 running the 290.10 Drivers
[23:57] <levi501de> the weird thing is my load average isnt that bad
[23:57] <levi501de> i have some serious resources
[23:57] <levi501de> but still my computer is laggy as hell
[23:57] <levi501de> especially when running chrome
[23:57] <levi501de> but not only that, it lags without chrome running
[23:58] <westmi> geez-with that you should not be lagging...
[23:58] <levi501de> this is a new occurence, i used to be able to run 5 vm's w/ 2gb each + 100's of tabs + netbeans + eclipse and no lag
[23:58] <westmi> or it should not be a serious problem, anyways
[23:59] <levi501de> but now creating a new tab in chrome or pulling down yakuake is lagging me out
[23:59] <levi501de> yeah i put this hardware in so i wouldn't have lag :D
[23:59] <levi501de> that plan is now fail whaling