| lifeless | it would be nice, yes | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| * wgrant sobs | 00:39 | |
| wgrant | (@ the bug-columns-related new sort orders) | 00:40 |
| * StevenK tries to work out what to get run on qas to generate mail to qa bug 114753 | 00:50 | |
| _mup_ | Bug #114753: Team membership status change emails should be gender neutral <lp-registry> <qa-needstesting> <teams> <trivial> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by stevenk> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/114753 > | 00:50 |
| StevenK | Or where the staging mailbox password even is. I thought I had it locally. :-( | 00:50 |
| wgrant | Probably cronscripts/send-person-notifications.py | 00:50 |
| lifeless | wgrant: StevenK: would like your opinions on bug 897442 | 00:54 |
| _mup_ | Bug #897442: maintained packages page not up to date after several weeks <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/897442 > | 00:54 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Aw, you're ruining all the fun. | 00:55 |
| lifeless | wgrant: howso? | 01:00 |
| wgrant | Asking me directly about derived distros omissions that I pointed out a year ago, so I can't just sadly and derisively laugh at it from the sidelines. | 01:01 |
| StevenK | I *think* that was due to the gina fallout | 01:01 |
| nigelb | Morning! | 01:02 |
| nigelb | I can't wait to ask bigjools about cricket. | 01:02 |
| lifeless | StevenK: so, fixed already? | 01:02 |
| lifeless | StevenK: or 'operational glitch not a bug' ? | 01:02 |
| wgrant | Not fixed. | 01:03 |
| wgrant | The solution is undefined, and probably unclear. | 01:03 |
| lifeless | ok | 01:03 |
| wgrant | And to some extent probably impossible. | 01:03 |
| lifeless | can one of you define the problem clearly in the description then ? | 01:03 |
| wgrant | It's very similar to the notification issue, which was only vaguely solved recently. | 01:03 |
| lifeless | the symptoms are fairly clear, but too high level :) | 01:04 |
| StevenK | nigelb: Oh, why? | 01:13 |
| lifeless | 370 tech debt bugs | 01:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: StevenK: ^ [please to be updating the bug] | 01:14 |
| nigelb | StevenK: England bowled out in the second innings for 72. | 01:15 |
| StevenK | nigelb: Bwahaha | 01:16 |
| StevenK | #1 in the world my left foot | 01:16 |
| nigelb | Exactly. | 01:16 |
| lifeless | wheee httpbis goes insnae | 01:22 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Oh? I've not been following it much. | 01:34 |
| wgrant | What have they done now? | 01:34 |
| lifeless | its about to be recharted | 01:35 |
| lifeless | rechartered | 01:36 |
| lifeless | httpbis is done, now onto a new version of http | 01:36 |
| lifeless | you can imagine the long carried concepts that this is dragging out of the woodwork | 01:36 |
| lifeless | some good | 01:36 |
| lifeless | some, uhm, less | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Oh yes. | 01:36 |
| lifeless | ok, htf does bug 235168 remain open ?? | 01:42 |
| _mup_ | Bug #235168: Database user fiera needs access to table GPGKeys <lp-soyuz> <soyuz-build> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/235168 > | 01:42 |
| lifeless | StevenK: wgrant: you may know. We should be seeing massive failure unless its been worked around somehow. | 01:43 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It *does* have access to gpgkey. | 01:43 |
| wgrant | Perhaps the bug is that it shouldn't need it. | 01:43 |
| wgrant | But it clearly should. | 01:44 |
| lifeless | ok | 01:44 |
| lifeless | s s/needs/has/ then close invalid | 01:44 |
| wgrant | Let me just check when it was added. | 01:44 |
| wgrant | It was added the day after that bug was filed. | 01:44 |
| wgrant | By al-maisan | 01:45 |
| wgrant | So I think it can be closed, as it's not a bug. | 01:45 |
| lifeless | yay timeouts | 01:46 |
| lifeless | wgrant: so it has access to the gpgkeys table to find folk from keys? | 01:47 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Right. | 01:47 |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| lifeless | thanks | 01:47 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Any idea why we can now sort bugs by tag or spec name? | 01:49 |
| wgrant | They both seem only marginally useful, if that. | 01:50 |
| lifeless | the bugcolumn project decided that every shown field should be sortable | 01:50 |
| wgrant | O_o | 01:50 |
| wgrant | o_O | 01:50 |
| lifeless | so they can show the fields being shown as 'columns' | 01:50 |
| wgrant | -_- | 01:50 |
| lifeless | and they can be clicked on to sort. | 01:50 |
| wgrant | This didn't raise performance concerns? | 01:51 |
| wgrant | It's both somewhat useless, and likely to be very slow. | 01:51 |
| lifeless | I flagged that with the team, yes. | 01:51 |
| lifeless | I don't know if they have measured. | 01:51 |
| lifeless | The original idea was to allow arbitrary combinations of sorts. | 01:52 |
| lifeless | importance + age, etc. | 01:52 |
| wgrant | Sure. | 01:52 |
| wgrant | That sort of thing is useful. | 01:52 |
| lifeless | Yes, but complex and hard to get right performance wise. | 01:52 |
| wgrant | But it's made a little more challening by having 9 billion combinations. | 01:52 |
| wgrant | 8.7 billion of which aren't useful | 01:52 |
| lifeless | sure | 01:52 |
| lifeless | anyhow, so a) the squad were, AFAIK, aware that performance is a factor | 01:53 |
| wgrant | I have a feeling that even ordering by assignee will no longer work for Ubuntu. | 01:53 |
| lifeless | and b) I don't know if they profiled the resulting queries. | 01:53 |
| wgrant | Indeed it does not. | 01:53 |
| lifeless | timeout? | 01:54 |
| wgrant | of course :) | 01:54 |
| lifeless | file a bug | 01:54 |
| lifeless | this probably needs revisiting | 01:54 |
| wgrant | I am trying to work out how to safely do the fact table. | 01:54 |
| wgrant | But there's about 10 useless sort orders that I really don't want to have to test against it. | 01:54 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Hah | 01:57 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Did you know that there are still several per-bug query regressions left in the new bug listings? | 01:58 |
| lifeless | I didn't | 01:58 |
| lifeless | please file a bug and flag for deryck | 01:58 |
| wgrant | I did a month ago :/ | 01:58 |
| lifeless | That got fixed, I thought. | 01:58 |
| wgrant | So did I. | 01:58 |
| wgrant | Ah, no. | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Bug #901122 | 01:59 |
| _mup_ | Bug #901122: New bug listings need to preload more attributes <bug-columns> <regression> <timeout> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by deryck> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/901122 > | 01:59 |
| wgrant | It's the other one, with duplicated 4s queries, that got fixed. | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Nearly 2 months ago. | 02:00 |
| lifeless | ok | 02:00 |
| lifeless | I have a clal planned with deryck this week anyhow | 02:01 |
| lifeless | I will mention that bug | 02:01 |
| wgrant | Does the 5s policy not apply in weaker form to that sort of thing? | 02:01 |
| wgrant | Something like "can't release with known trivial performance regressions"? | 02:01 |
| StevenK | Hah | 02:01 |
| lifeless | yes, | 02:02 |
| rick_h | lifeless: wgrant I know he reported on it a couple of times during stand ups | 02:02 |
| lifeless | we're not meant to release with known regressions | 02:02 |
| rick_h | it's on our kanban and in coding | 02:02 |
| lifeless | and all new pages are meant to be 5s capped. | 02:02 |
| lifeless | we haven't yet agreed to 'changed pages need to be 5s capped' - I don't think we are quite ready for that. | 02:02 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Sure, but "changed pages shouldn't have obvious easily-fixed speed regressions" seems reasonable enough. | 02:03 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I think francis would support 'changed pages should not have regressions' | 02:03 |
| lifeless | we don't have a formal checkpoint for this today | 02:04 |
| lifeless | (and in fact if you check the current release process stuff, squads are not meant to rotate while there are regressions | 02:04 |
| lifeless | but we're not following through all that well yet; still figuring out the mechanics | 02:05 |
| wgrant | I've given up on pointing that bit out :) | 02:05 |
| lifeless | please don't give up | 02:06 |
| lifeless | sometimes just a reminder is very useful | 02:06 |
| wgrant | We conciously regressed with speed, usability, information density regressions. | 02:06 |
| wgrant | Presumably because the feature was dragging on. | 02:06 |
| wgrant | s/regressed/released/ | 02:06 |
| lifeless | I was only aware that the latter one was considered | 02:07 |
| wgrant | Fortunately for products it's somewhat usable. | 02:08 |
| wgrant | As you can turn off location display. | 02:08 |
| wgrant | And get near-normal density. | 02:08 |
| wgrant | For Ubuntu you can't :/ | 02:08 |
| lifeless | hates isp. | 02:33 |
| lifeless | StevenK: \o/ 114753 | 02:34 |
| StevenK | lifeless: I think you should your ISP exactly what you think of them. | 02:34 |
| StevenK | At length. | 02:34 |
| StevenK | Sigh. Should *tell* your ISP | 02:34 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I've started whinging on twitter to them when it goes :P | 02:34 |
| StevenK | Oh sure, *that* will help. | 02:35 |
| lifeless | makes me feel better | 02:35 |
| lifeless | and back to the bug triage. wgrant - could you please comment on / update the description for bug 897442 ? | 02:36 |
| _mup_ | Bug #897442: maintained packages page not up to date after several weeks <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/897442 > | 02:36 |
| lifeless | hah, crazy, my if-I-had-to-choose tweet is *still* being retweeted | 02:39 |
| lifeless | to another 3K folk today. *boing* | 02:40 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Which tweet? | 02:50 |
| lifeless | https://twitter.com/#!/rbtcollins/status/160126945995141122 | 02:54 |
| nigelb | ohyeah, I RT'd that the other day. | 02:55 |
| lifeless | . | 02:55 |
| lifeless | . | 02:55 |
| lifeless | . | 02:55 |
| james_w | hi lifeless | 02:55 |
| wgrant | Ah | 02:55 |
| lifeless | james_w: hi | 02:56 |
| james_w | hi wgrant | 02:56 |
| james_w | I've been looking at getting Django to include the oops id in the response body | 02:56 |
| james_w | I have an approach that does it, but it has to use thread local storage | 02:56 |
| wgrant | Hi james_w. | 02:56 |
| lifeless | james_w: can't you use the wsgi context? | 02:57 |
| james_w | hmm, possibly | 02:57 |
| james_w | and then get it back out from the report in the error_render function | 02:57 |
| lifeless | james_w: I was suggesting, at the point you decide you are oopsing (which is probably the django error handler, which is inside the wsgi shell) | 02:58 |
| james_w | at that point we can either publish the oops directly, dropping some of oops_wsgi from the stack | 02:59 |
| lifeless | that you use a timeuuid, (uuid1?) back that to a unicode string, stash it in the wsgi context in a oops.id or oops.context['id'] or some such | 02:59 |
| lifeless | and change the oops-wsgi default handlers to honour if from there, if found. | 02:59 |
| james_w | that would work, but would break publish_only_new | 03:00 |
| james_w | I wonder if that should use some mechanism other than the id to decide if the report has already been published? | 03:00 |
| lifeless | uhm | 03:00 |
| lifeless | I wouldn't publish directly, theres no value in doing so | 03:01 |
| lifeless | and you'd have to duplicate logic | 03:01 |
| james_w | yeah | 03:01 |
| lifeless | (consider that we also want to make oopses for soft timeouts, local 404's etc) | 03:01 |
| lifeless | the fact that django isn't structured like a wsgi app is a nuisance :) | 03:01 |
| james_w | yes | 03:02 |
| james_w | would a published key in the report work sufficiently well for publish_only_new to do the amqp->datedir fallback? | 03:05 |
| lifeless | we'd need to teach it | 03:10 |
| lifeless | e.g. have a requested_id field or some such | 03:10 |
| lifeless | allocation in publish() is very clean, but then we get this nasty django interaction | 03:11 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I've commented on that bug, but it has probably only confused matters :) | 03:13 |
| lifeless | one way would be to track 'published' separately | 03:13 |
| lifeless | (e.g. in a key, or as a separate publishing-state-variable) | 03:13 |
| wgrant | (most interpretations of the bug would have previously been very confused, but in too simple a fashion) | 03:13 |
| lifeless | another is to have a helper in the oops code that publishers can use to decide what id to use (see also the related 'preserve id' flag to DateDirRepo | 03:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: thanks | 03:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: whats the jargon for the 'functionality to which lifeless refers' | 03:47 |
| spm | 'impossibilities and other fantastic legends' | 03:49 |
| nigelb | zing! | 03:49 |
| StevenK | Haha | 03:50 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Not sure it has a name. | 03:50 |
| StevenK | +1 for calling it what spm did | 03:51 |
| spm | :-) | 03:51 |
| nigelb | All hail spm, the well-timed. | 03:51 |
| spm | years of practice | 03:51 |
| spm | :modest: | 03:51 |
| StevenK | lifeless: O hai. Can I please kill the maverick packages in the LP PPA? | 03:52 |
| StevenK | By rights we should kill natty too, but one DAS at a time | 03:52 |
| wgrant | There are still natty users | 03:52 |
| wgrant | I don't think anyone's still on maverick, though. | 03:53 |
| wgrant | In fact I think maverick's broken. | 03:53 |
| lifeless | StevenK: L, O and P should be all we need | 03:53 |
| lifeless | wgrant: what natty users? | 03:53 |
| wgrant | At least one LP dev uses natty. | 03:53 |
| lifeless | wgrant: !cite | 03:53 |
| StevenK | lifeless: There is an already existing Obsolete PPA which contains a bunch of hardy stuff, I'll copy the maverick packages there and then delete them | 03:56 |
| lifeless | coolio | 03:56 |
| lifeless | given the canonical policy for O/S use | 03:56 |
| lifeless | I wouldn't bother asking me about this, JFDI :) - after checking on buildbot and any non-prod machines, of course [as prod machines use the losa repo...) | 03:57 |
| spm | s/losa/is/ | 03:57 |
| lifeless | 6/1 1/2 other | 03:58 |
| StevenK | lifeless: buildbot does not use the PPA | 03:58 |
| StevenK | ec2 and dev machines only | 03:58 |
| * StevenK gets distracted by changing the displayname of the obsolete PPA to something better | 04:00 | |
| lifeless | StevenK: blargh, I knew whereof I meant. | 04:00 |
| lifeless | wgrant: what dev uses natty? | 04:01 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I don't recall, but I'm pretty sure it came up at the Thunderdome. | 04:01 |
| StevenK | I can recall hearing it too | 04:02 |
| StevenK | I think it was one of the mac fanbois | 04:02 |
| wgrant | That makes sense, yes. | 04:02 |
| * StevenK waits for the copied packages to be published before deleting them | 04:03 | |
| lifeless | so, tough luck for them, really. | 04:05 |
| lifeless | we should all be dogfooding precise in the next month or so anyhow. | 04:05 |
| lifeless | and everyone should have gotten onto O in similar fashion. | 04:05 |
| StevenK | lifeless: I'll be mailing about Maverick after the fact, the mail warns about Natty. | 04:06 |
| lifeless | thanks | 04:07 |
| lifeless | lets aim to clean natty and O up a week or so after P ships. | 04:08 |
| lifeless | clean sweep | 04:08 |
| StevenK | That late? I was going to clean up natty this week | 04:08 |
| lifeless | oh, sure | 04:08 |
| lifeless | I was figuring you wouldn't want to fiddle with it again so soon | 04:08 |
| lifeless | but if you're inclined, I won't get in the way :) | 04:08 |
| StevenK | Meh, most of it is waiting for the PPA publisher | 04:09 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Why? | 04:09 |
| wgrant | You don't need to wait. | 04:09 |
| StevenK | wgrant: I'd prefer them to be published in the other PPA before I delete them from the first. | 04:09 |
| wgrant | Unnecessary, unless you're going to take more than 7 days to copy them. | 04:10 |
| StevenK | They just published, anyway. | 04:10 |
| StevenK | "Source and binaries deleted by Steve Kowalik request:" | 04:11 |
| * StevenK eyerolls | 04:12 | |
| StevenK | wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/ppa-packages-deletion-grammar/+merge/90646https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/ppa-packages-deletion-grammar/+merge/90646 | 04:27 |
| * StevenK glares at his mouse | 04:27 | |
| StevenK | wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/ppa-packages-deletion-grammar/+merge/90646 that is | 04:27 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Needs fixing, but you have to work out why :) | 04:28 |
| wgrant | It's not a bug you've introduced. | 04:28 |
| * StevenK peers at wgrant | 04:29 | |
| StevenK | Can I have a clue? :-) | 04:30 |
| StevenK | messages = []; messages.append() is a horrid way of expressing it, so I've fixed that too | 04:30 |
| wgrant | It's not in the test, or the comment. | 04:30 |
| wgrant | I thought that was a reasonable way to do it, but I'm not too fussed. | 04:31 |
| lifeless | gnar | 04:31 |
| lifeless | I can't find the bug about bug 1 | 04:31 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share <ubuntu> <Clubdistro:Confirmed> <Computer Science Ubuntu:Confirmed for compscibuntu-bugs> <dylan.NET.Reflection:Invalid> <dylan.NET:Invalid> <EasyPeasy Overview:Invalid by ramvi> <Ichthux:Invalid by raphink> <JAK LINUX:Invalid> <LibreOffice:In Progress by bjoern-michaelsen> <Linux:New> <Linux Mint:In Progress> <The Linux OS Project:In Progress> <metacity:In Progress> <OpenOffice:In Progress by lh-m | 04:31 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Your issue is with the prose, then? | 04:31 |
| wgrant | No, it's a code bug. | 04:32 |
| lifeless | escaping? | 04:34 |
| wgrant | Bingo. | 04:34 |
| lifeless | cause we like xss ? | 04:34 |
| StevenK | Ah | 04:34 |
| StevenK | + messages = [ | 04:35 |
| StevenK | + '<p>Source and binaries deleted by %(self.user.display_name)s:'] | 04:35 |
| StevenK | wgrant: ^ | 04:35 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ? | 04:36 |
| wgrant | wut | 04:36 |
| lifeless | StevenK: nice troll :P | 04:36 |
| lifeless | StevenK: display_name is untrusted data | 04:36 |
| lifeless | StevenK: you are assembling html. | 04:36 |
| StevenK | Obviously | 04:36 |
| lifeless | StevenK: so you need to html entity escape the display name to stop monkey business | 04:37 |
| wgrant | No. | 04:37 |
| StevenK | But that pattern is used like five lines down | 04:37 |
| StevenK | messages.append("<p>Deletion comment: %(comment)s</p>") | 04:37 |
| lifeless | StevenK: oh yay, even more holes | 04:37 |
| StevenK | So I guess I get to fix both ... | 04:37 |
| lifeless | StevenK: actually, let me rephrase - that second one depends on the value of comment when the string is substituted | 04:38 |
| wgrant | dafuq. | 04:38 |
| wgrant | # Replace the 'comment' content added by the user via structured(), | 04:38 |
| StevenK | comment = data.get('deletion_comment') | 04:38 |
| wgrant | # so it will be quoted appropriately. | 04:38 |
| wgrant | I DO NOT GET IT | 04:38 |
| wgrant | messages.append("<p>Deletion comment: %(comment)s</p>") | 04:38 |
| * wgrant blame | 04:38 | |
| StevenK | wgrant: Shall I just go on a rampage and delete this code for being utter rubbish? | 04:38 |
| wgrant | No, you should fix it, while I write bzr blamestab. | 04:39 |
| StevenK | cprov | 04:39 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Hm, it is wrapped in structured() a few lines down? | 04:40 |
| wgrant | Oh | 04:40 |
| wgrant | So it is | 04:40 |
| wgrant | So yes, that bit is correct. | 04:40 |
| wgrant | (but that was only fixed relatively recently) | 04:40 |
| wgrant | In r5945 | 04:41 |
| StevenK | Hah, recently | 04:41 |
| StevenK | wgrant: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/822187/ | 04:41 |
| wgrant | Amusingly there were two identical vulnerabilities in the preceding 10 lines, which were not fixed. | 04:41 |
| wgrant | StevenK: That's fixed one of them. | 04:42 |
| StevenK | And the source displayname? | 04:42 |
| wgrant | That one is probably not presently exploitable, due to some constraints in our current data model, but yes. | 04:42 |
| StevenK | Right | 04:42 |
| StevenK | I'm not sure how to fix that in the same way, given the loop | 04:42 |
| * StevenK wraps source.displyname in structured() | 04:43 | |
| wgrant | Right, it may be best to use the nested structured() support that you added a while back. | 04:43 |
| StevenK | Like I just did? :-) | 04:44 |
| StevenK | Hmmm, wrapping source.displayname in structured didn't work | 04:48 |
| wgrant | How did you try it? | 04:49 |
| StevenK | % structured(source.displayname) effectively | 04:49 |
| wgrant | That's precisely the opposite of what you want. | 04:50 |
| StevenK | Which is utterly wrong, since I've just managed to swap in how to actually use it. :-) | 04:50 |
| wgrant | structured()'s first operand is markup. | 04:50 |
| StevenK | notification = "\n".join(messages) | 04:51 |
| StevenK | TypeError: sequence item 1: expected string, structured found | 04:51 |
| StevenK | Oh, BAH | 04:51 |
| StevenK | This is utterly pointlessness to do it with an array. May as well build a string | 04:52 |
| wgrant | You know what would be good here? :) | 04:55 |
| wgrant | A... TEMPLATE! [jarring chord] | 04:55 |
| StevenK | Haha | 04:55 |
| StevenK | Oh, damn it, can't use += for strings and structured | 04:56 |
| wgrant | No, you'd have to use .escapedtext, which would be nice to avoid. | 04:56 |
| StevenK | Hopefully += works if everything is structured | 04:57 |
| StevenK | ... which it does not. | 04:58 |
| wgrant | No. | 04:58 |
| wgrant | This is where MarkupSafe is nice. | 04:58 |
| wgrant | But IE. | 04:58 |
| wgrant | IE destroys everything :) | 04:58 |
| StevenK | Sigh, this would be easy if it wasn't for the loop of sources in the middle. | 05:00 |
| wgrant | Sure. This is the sort of thing templates were invented for. | 05:00 |
| StevenK | Grrr | 05:02 |
| StevenK | I can't see a nice way to do this. I wonder how to pull in pystache | 05:03 |
| wgrant | Use escapedtext | 05:04 |
| wgrant | Or I guess you could use pystache, but eeeeh. | 05:05 |
| wgrant | mustache is slow and awful. | 05:05 |
| StevenK | Oh, bah, structured is replacing the < and > too | 05:08 |
| wgrant | Hmmm? | 05:10 |
| wgrant | That's the point of it. | 05:10 |
| StevenK | But I'm building HTML :-( | 05:10 |
| wgrant | How are you trying to use structured()? Because it's wrong :) | 05:11 |
| StevenK | wgrant: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/822199/ | 05:11 |
| wgrant | StevenK: So, you need to wrap the final thing in structured(), or addNotification will escape it. | 05:12 |
| StevenK | wgrant: That works. Other than that, I guess I'm using structed() correctly? :-) | 05:14 |
| StevenK | Sigh, structured() | 05:14 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Not correctly, but not wrongly. | 05:20 |
| wgrant | There's no correct way here. | 05:20 |
| StevenK | I think I can cope with "It's not perfect, but much better than what was there." | 05:20 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Diff updated. | 05:21 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Approved, with one change. | 05:24 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/822212/ ? | 05:26 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Right. | 05:28 |
| wgrant | Possibly with a comment "If you change the next statement, wgrant will send rabid dogs after you." | 05:29 |
| StevenK | Haha | 05:32 |
| StevenK | Hm, have we been wallyworld-less today? | 05:49 |
| wallyworld | no? | 05:49 |
| StevenK | You've just said nothing all day | 05:49 |
| wallyworld | been busy | 05:49 |
| * StevenK is getting quite tempted to upgrade the ec2 image | 05:50 | |
| wallyworld | do, you know you want to | 05:50 |
| StevenK | jtv: You can delete your ec2 ami-2b5e9e42 | 05:54 |
| StevenK | bac: You can delete your ec2 ami-9165a5f8 of id 521. | 06:59 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Do you know if anybody in maintenance is sorting out the remaining longpoll issue, or should I JFDI given that Red is no longer with us? | 06:59 |
| * StevenK purges Java off his system now that he doesn't need ec2-api-tools | 07:01 | |
| wallyworld | poor Java :-( | 07:05 |
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| * stub adds Zookeeper to -dependencies for a laugh | 07:37 | |
| wgrant | I hope we'll need it eventually :) | 07:39 |
| stub | Ooh... counter troll. | 08:00 |
| * StevenK stabs Thunderbird, pulls the knife out, and stabs it again, twisting the knife. | 08:03 | |
| StevenK | Why does every single mail client have to completly suck? | 08:04 |
| StevenK | Perhaps it's mandated in RFC 3501. | 08:05 |
| wgrant | StevenK: A combination of 3501 and 5322, yes. | 08:20 |
| adeuring | good mornig | 08:50 |
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| lifeless | wgrant: they are not | 09:01 |
| lifeless | wgrant: if you want to DI, that would rock | 09:02 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Will need some CORS stuff in Apache, I suspect, but will look at some point. | 09:03 |
| danhg | Morning everyone | 09:15 |
| nigelb | Morning danhg, mrevell | 09:16 |
| nigelb | bigjools: Watched the cricket? I heard England had fun :D | 09:17 |
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| stub | StevenK: Are we going to conflict with ec2 images or are you finished now? I'm just about to attempt to build a PG 9.1 image. | 09:27 |
| stub | (but that won't be public until testing is done, couple of days) | 09:27 |
| lifeless | stub: hey | 09:28 |
| wgrant | stub: That sounds dangerous, given that 9.1 on prod is probably some time away... | 09:28 |
| stub | lifeless: yo | 09:28 |
| lifeless | stub: so, I missed our catchup last week | 09:28 |
| stub | wgrant: Says who? | 09:28 |
| stub | lifeless: That is fine. I wasn't there either :) | 09:28 |
| lifeless | stub: I'd like to catch up tomorrow; reckon you could be around a bit earlier? | 09:28 |
| stub | lifeless: sure | 09:30 |
| wgrant | stub: Says me not trusting pg_upgrade, and an insufficient CPU count to do it any other way :) | 09:30 |
| wgrant | But if pg_upgrade works now, that's great. | 09:30 |
| lifeless | stub: also, there are about 4 bugs that all boil down to 'make a new user', wondering if you want to knock them over sometime soonish; seems like one straightforward patch should do it | 09:30 |
| lifeless | stub: I've tagged them 'dbuser' | 09:30 |
| stub | wgrant: I need to push it forward or it will never happen. There are problems, and we will go ahead when I have solutions :) | 09:30 |
| lifeless | stub: (tomorrow - thanks) | 09:30 |
| lifeless | and now, for me, gnight | 09:30 |
| stub | lifeless: k | 09:30 |
| StevenK | stub: I'm done, 524 was just an update since I got sick of waiting for ec2 to upgrade 80MiB worth of packages. | 10:09 |
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| deryck | Morning, all. | 14:04 |
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| sinzui | jcsackett, do you have time to mumble? | 15:32 |
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| nigelb | Interesting quit message there :) | 15:52 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: i can mumble now, sorry i missed your ping. | 15:53 |
| * sinzui starts mumble | 15:53 | |
| * jcsackett does too | 15:53 | |
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| lifeless | mornink | 19:28 |
| lifeless | deryck: hey | 19:28 |
| deryck | lifeless, hey man. been meaning to reply to you all day. sorry | 19:56 |
| deryck | lifeless, how about sometime after the TL call this week? | 19:56 |
| lifeless | mm, pretty sure that that morning is wall to wall calls | 19:57 |
| * lifeless consults calendar | 19:57 | |
| lifeless | I think statik cancelled, so I could do tlstart + 2h as the start time | 19:57 |
| deryck | lifeless, 2100 UTC? | 19:58 |
| lifeless | I think so | 20:02 |
| flacoste | lifeless: hang out time? | 20:03 |
| lifeless | flacoste: sure, can you send a regular invite? that one is on the wrong machine :P | 20:04 |
| flacoste | lifeless: i did | 20:05 |
| lifeless | oh, google notifications fail | 20:06 |
| lifeless | 'this service is unavailable please try again later' | 20:06 |
| flacoste | i resent the invite | 20:06 |
| deryck | lifeless, I'll calendar you and move it if it's wrong. | 20:08 |
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| lifeless | deryck: thanks, looks fine to me | 20:34 |
| deryck | lifeless, awesome | 20:34 |
| lifeless | danhg: hiya | 20:56 |
| lifeless | danhg: thanks! | 20:56 |
| wallyworld | deryck: hi, wanna have a quick chat? | 21:15 |
| wallyworld | deryck: sorry, network dropped out, not sure if you replied | 21:18 |
| deryck | wallyworld, hey. sure. I'm near EOD, and I'm nearly spent. But I'll take a shot at it. mumble or hangout? | 21:18 |
| wallyworld | deryck: mumble, just a quick one | 21:19 |
| deryck | ok | 21:20 |
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| reed | hi folks | 22:42 |
| reed | is there a way for a manager to extract the list of email address of people in a LP team? | 22:43 |
| reed | need to run the openstack elections based on the members of openstack, I'd like to see if I can save some energy | 22:43 |
| sinzui | StevenK, This is a few days before NG agreed to hire me and 6 months are we took all the data out of illustra (proto-postgresql) and ran on python 1.2 http://web.archive.org/web/19961111220245/http://www.nationalgeographic.com/main.html | 22:52 |
| sinzui | it's so tiny | 22:52 |
| StevenK | wallyworld: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/combo-url/+merge/90093 | 22:59 |
| sinzui | Ian. After the underpants protest, they stopped tampering with the pictures: http://web.archive.org/web/19961221170010/http://www.nationalgeographic.com/modules/contact2/dispatch/Nicolas/clickup/rd50up.html | 23:07 |
| wallyworld | sinzui: lol :-) | 23:08 |
| sinzui | Though think this through...if they have never been in contact with modern civ...why are they posing. | 23:08 |
| StevenK | Haha | 23:08 |
| wallyworld | you raise an excellent point, hmmm | 23:10 |
| wallyworld | wgrant: StevenK: yay, my 128GB SSD just arrived. now to clone my current hdd so i can run without my disk thrashing so much | 23:13 |
| StevenK | wallyworld: My desktop doesn't thrash at all, and my laptop has an SSD already. So I'm not sure why your laptop is so terrible | 23:49 |
| StevenK | Hah | 23:49 |
| StevenK | I see that lifeless' ISP is running in 'operational excellence' too | 23:50 |
| lifeless | yeah | 23:59 |
| lifeless | (not really) | 23:59 |
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