[00:00] <codepal> It's very unusual compared to other Ubuntu installs I've done....
[00:02] <jbicha> codepal: that's a long-standing bug 782507 you can use the advanced partitioner next time to specify exactly what you want
[00:02] <codepal> um no I can't
[00:02] <codepal> advanced partition didn't wanna play nice for me
[00:03] <codepal> I couldn't even resize the 2 partitions it was offering in the installer without it crashing....
[00:03] <codepal> I did get installed, the long way round
[00:03] <codepal> "a gazillion restarts"
[00:04] <jbicha> I was having some hiccups with the installer also, you could just use the Oneiric installer and upgrade
[00:05] <oconnore> codepal: if you are running on an ssd you probably don't want a swap partition.
[00:06] <codepal> it doesn't matter, I hardly ever run heavy enough stuff to use swap
[00:06] <oconnore> fair enough
[00:07] <codepal> 1GB of swap is hardly gonna reck my SSD - imo
[00:07] <codepal> with 4GB of RAM
[00:07] <codepal> so Unity uses lightdm - or is only lubuntu using it?
[00:08] <codepal> I'm gonna try moving the Ubuntu 12 partition soon
[00:08] <codepal> hopefully it won't balk
[00:08] <codepal> bit pointless having 1 partion 7.2GB wasted
[00:08] <oconnore> i went a little crazy with mine. /tmp is a 512mB tmpfs filesystem and so on
[00:09] <codepal> oconnore: tutorial for that crazyness somewhere? - some of us might like a few tips from the experts!
[00:09] <jtaylor> isn't that default now anyway?
[00:09] <jtaylor> or just in debian?
[00:11] <codepal> I've a little problem too, empathy doesn't want to swap desktops
[00:11] <codepal> when I link on the icon in dash it normally swaps to the desktop it's active on
[00:11] <jbicha> codepal: I think you're thinking of lxdm, lightdm is something different and is used by Ubuntu
[00:11] <codepal> it's stopped working :'(
[00:13] <codepal> jbicha: I was  reading the wiki: Lubuntu - Lubuntu switched to Lightdm for the standard display manager.
[00:13] <codepal> ??
[00:13] <codepal> so somethings amiss?
[00:14] <oconnore> codepal: here is something close to a tutorial
[00:14] <oconnore> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab
[00:14] <codepal> oconnore: thanks!
[00:14] <oconnore> for more details just do a "man fstab"
[00:15] <oconnore> moment of truth: my upgrade just finished
[00:16] <oconnore> restarting, wish me luck
[00:16]  * oconnore crosses his fingers
[00:17] <codepal> oconnore: good luck!
[00:17] <codepal> vaguely remember someone suggesting tempfs for firefox flash video improvements
[00:18] <jtaylor> very unlikely that that helps
[00:19] <jtaylor> maybe useful for general usage performance, but not for flash
[00:19] <jtaylor> to speed up flash video playback I recommend to just use a regular media player like vlc of mplayer
[00:19] <jtaylor> these also give you more control about size, speed and seeking
[00:20] <jbicha> codepal: lots of Ubuntu flavors are using lightdm now because it's relatively easy to theme, but it's not lubuntu-specific
[00:20] <codepal> jtaylor: http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/04/speed-up-firefox-using-ram-tmpfs.html
[00:21] <jtaylor> nothing there mentions flash
[00:21] <jtaylor> as said, for general usage it may help
[00:21] <jtaylor> though probably not very much depending on how good/bad firefox is
[00:21] <jtaylor> the kernel caches stuff very aggressivly in ram anyway
[00:29]  * codepal shrugs
[00:29] <codepal> it was before I had an SSD or much RAM
[00:30] <codepal> when your running with 512M & an old CPU you try and sqeeze as much out of it as possible.
[03:35] <faina> Hi, I have a recent 12.04 install and name resolution is mysteriously broken for me. dig @router google.com gets a timeout from the 12.04 system, dig @router google.com from an 11.10 system works fine.
[03:37] <micahg> faina: try 'dig @8.8.8.8 ubuntu.com', that'll test to see if it's your router or now
[03:37] <micahg> *not
[03:41] <faina> Ok, so dig @8.8.8.8 worked from 11.10 system and not from 12.04 system. Though there's some other problem with my network where an ssh to a remote system died
[03:52] <faina> so ... there's also something really weird with my router too. Though just to check, is anything particularly different about 12.04 name resolution compared to 11.10?
[04:03] <faina> I wonder if I was dumb and accidentally set the new systems ip to the routers ip.
[04:04] <faina> The new 12.04 system is having trouble auto-configuring its network for some reason.
[04:22] <faina> Huh, I wonder why my network/interfaces file had eth0 manual in it -- would the installer assume manual if it had gotten an IP assigned by a pxeboot?
[05:12] <codepal> I guess I'm having problems... shell extensions how to load them?
[05:12] <codepal> user-theme-extension ?
[05:28] <jbicha> codepal: visit http://extensions.gnome.org/
[05:41] <BEARJEW> hello
[07:16] <Fudge> hey i am on usb x64 1/28/12 ubiquity is failing, but also on apt-get update noticed W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Alpha amd64 (20120129)/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[07:16] <Fudge> oh wel maybe its 01/29 lol
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> fudge: happy with pangolins changes?
[07:25] <Fudge> yeah for sure accessibility ive been using it since alpha 1 was out msot of the time and its really usable.
[07:25] <Fudge> although i cant get pulseaudio in systemwide so i can use my screen reader in a console
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Fudge: any major things change?
[07:26] <Fudge> lotuspsychje  in regards to pulse or previous ubuntu?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> previous
[07:27] <Fudge> a lot of bug fixes i guess, havnt noticed new functionality, guess you will have to see whats new that yo uuse :D
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> ill try when full rlelease :p
[07:45] <Fudge> lotuspsychje  no its very good
[07:45] <Fudge> going to be a pretty good LTS
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[07:54] <Fudge> anyone know a work around to the ubiquity install crash currently
[07:57] <Fudge> ok for anyone interested it seems to only be a bug if something manual is selected, i had tried a reinstall of libparted with no joy though. side by side isntallation seems to be working.
[07:57] <Fudge> will comment on my bugreport
[08:13] <Ben64> segfaults on boot
[08:14] <Fudge> Ben64  not good
[08:14] <codepal> Fudge, can you paste the link in here...
[08:14] <codepal> I'd like to add my 2 c
[08:14] <Ben64> lemme login and get a paste...
[08:14] <Ben64> http://pastebin.com/zmxs7e6R
[08:14] <codepal> Fudge, with much struggling I removed the side by side 3 partitions that install created
[08:15] <codepal> been customizing and tweaking like crazy
[08:15] <codepal> nother thing is, don't use Empathy if your a heavy IRC user.
[08:15] <Ben64> anyone seen this and/or know the solution?
[08:16] <Fudge> codepal  i like irssi
[08:16] <codepal> also, gnome-shell-extensions not working here yet
[08:16] <Fudge> i will grab the bug from my email
[08:16] <Fudge> also grub-update displays cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory
[08:16] <codepal> even though I installed webup8 ppa & gnome-user-theme-extension etc...
[08:16] <codepal> firefox 9. doesn't wanna play with extensions.gnome.org either :,(
[08:17] <codepal> hi micahg - how's the busy devs?
[08:17] <Fudge> codepal  why couldnt you copy the partition with gparted and then grub-install update grub etc
[08:18] <codepal> I resized the partitions, I did have a side by side - ubuntu 10.04 on the other partition
[08:18] <codepal> but I fudged it badly
[08:18] <codepal> moved the new ubuntu 12 partition over the boot mbr and all
[08:18] <codepal> real mess cleaning up
[08:19] <codepal> but, I learn from my mistakes, as you do.
[08:19] <codepal> love ubuntu, but there is danger out there will robinson.
[08:19] <Fudge> lol yeah mate
[08:20] <Fudge> think once u overcome things u learn new things to screw up
[08:20] <codepal> what I really would love to do... is help the wacom devs get serial tablets working on ubuntu 12
[08:20] <codepal> just for us fogies with 12x18 serial tablets
[08:21] <codepal> then, well, I think I could ditch XP for good
[08:21] <codepal> since my Virtualbox can run it better instead
[08:21] <Fudge> bug 922052
[08:21] <Fudge> that might be it codepal  lol not sure
[08:22] <codepal> yup, that sounds like it
[08:22] <codepal> same heading mine would have been if I had carried through with bug submission
[08:23] <Fudge> i havnt openned,  has about 12 comments?
[08:25] <Fudge> yeah thats it
[08:27] <Fudge> there we go
[09:00] <z3r0c007> hello
[09:01] <z3r0c007> relinux is safe to install on 11.10 ubuntu
[09:01] <codepal> calibre wasn't .... for me at lesat
[09:01] <codepal> s/lesat/least/
[09:20] <Will123456> hey guys. one of the things i miss from a traditional window list is seeing web page names from the browser (though tabs hide this information too). since so many websites use the page title to indicate change, is there any way we can make the firefox browser icon wiggle when the title changes?
[09:21] <iceroot> Will123456: #firefox on irc.mozilla.org may help you on that
[09:21] <Will123456> iceroot: thanks, i'll check there :)
[09:23] <Will123456> iceroot: looks like HTML5 notifications (http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/notifications/quick/) will hopefully solve this problem the right way
[09:23] <Will123456> (now all we need is an HTML5 spec that does the washing up for you)
[09:37] <iceroot> Will123456: if i am correct the latest firefox in 12.04 is doing that already
[09:38] <iceroot> Will123456: but i guess #firefox on irc.mozilla.org has more infos about that
[09:41] <Will123456> iceroot: i've not had any websites offer to use notifications but i'll look into it, thanks :)
[09:42] <iceroot> Will123456: my firefox is marking every tab as bold when there is a change on the website (or if the tab was not read yet)
[09:42] <iceroot> Will123456: working very good on football-tickers (the real football of course not this american football) :)
[10:02] <Will123456> iceroot: that wasn't what i meant, though - because if firefox is hidden by another window, you can't see the titles in bold or otherwise
[10:04] <Will123456> looks like this implements it for FF - shame it's not in by default: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-notifications/
[10:49] <edgy> Hi when can we expect fglrx 8.930 to come to repos?
[11:17] <iceroot> Will123456: thank you for the info
[11:47] <Fudge> installer ejects an empty cd drive when  botoing from usb
[11:52] <Ian_Corne> lol
[11:52] <Ian_Corne> good stuff
[11:53] <Ian_Corne> the installer is resisting the move away from cds
[12:16] <Fudge> MUST BE
[12:17] <Fudge> TOTEM MOVIE PLAYER WHEN ASKING TO INSTALL CODECS TRIES TO INSTALL GSTREAMER-BAD-BLAH_BLAH.0:I386 BUT IM ON AMD64, THE ERROR SAYS CANT COMPLETE BUT WHEN ISNTALLING WITH APT-GET IT WORKS FINE. WHY WOULD TOTEM REQUEST A 32BIT PACKAGE ON A 64BIT SYSTEM.
[12:20] <Ben64> too much caps lock
[12:24] <aguitel> Fudge, many app need 32 bits to work in 64 bits
[12:32] <Fudge> yeah i didnt realise sorry bout caps
[12:33] <Fudge> dont think this is one of those apps though
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[14:01] <webm0nk3y> I just updated P (which has been working fine) and now my computer is stuck in a rebooting loop. it does it so fast i can't tell at one point.
[14:02] <webm0nk3y> any help would be appreciated so i could diagnose it
[14:02] <webm0nk3y> i guess it's not really a reboot loop since it's not getting to grub
[14:03] <webm0nk3y> at least after the initial grub menu...it starts and never gets back to grub
[14:25] <edgy> Hi, I want to install fglrx 8.390 because I heard it supports hybrid graphics better, is there a better option than to use https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?
[17:45] <thor_> Test lubuntu 12.04 LSC. Cant find all apps , if you seach for totem it wont find it??
[17:48] <Ian_Corne> it does
[19:24] <g0bl1n> will 12.04 have NetworkManager ? Not easy to debug it... After a 11.10 friday update, NetworkManager asked for my wifi password, and since then doesn't list my wifi network in the list. Yet, all the other wifi networks are there.
[19:26] <Essobi> g0bl1n: and obviously the problem is with 12.04?  :D
[19:26] <Essobi> g0bl1n: Did you verify the SSID is present with another wifi device?
[19:26] <g0bl1n> :-) Just expressing my frustation on a silly manner :-)
[19:27] <Essobi> Maybe power-cycle the router and the swaptop too?  :D
[19:27] <g0bl1n> Essobi, yes, this Ubuntu partition connects fine
[19:27] <Essobi> ah... weird.
[19:27] <Essobi> I've more then wanted to stab my 12.04 install.
[19:27] <g0bl1n> :-)
[19:27] <Essobi> At the moment, I have no X... wehen X starts, the console/kb softlocks.  It's f'ing great.
[19:28] <g0bl1n> Alfa2 is somedays away, right ?
[19:38] <jbicha> g0bl1n: Ubuntu will have NM for the forseeable future, and if you want to know Ubuntu's schedule, check the topic
[19:51] <FernandoMiguel> bRoas
[19:52] <g0bl1n> FernandoMiguel, ?
[19:53] <chmac> I'm seeing fairly regular compiz crashes (I have gnome-panel running). Is it worth trying to file a bug? I usually assume somebody else is having the same issue and will report it more capably than me. :-)
[19:54] <g0bl1n> chmac, It will be figured out, report as clean as possible
[19:54] <chmac> Any advice on RSS readers? I'm realising there's an old version of liferea in the repos.
[19:54] <chmac> g0bl1n: You mean the bug will be figured out, I can just wait?
[19:55] <g0bl1n> chmac, report the bug :)
[19:55] <chmac> g0bl1n: Ok, how do I get debugging output? Can I start compiz from a terminal in order to get some data?
[19:56] <chmac> I have to switch to tty1 and kill compiz in order to get my session back, the whole screen is frozen.
[19:57] <g0bl1n> chmac, http://wiki.compiz.org/Troubleshooting#What_to_do_if_compiz_crashes
[20:04] <chmac> g0bl1n: Thanks, I'll check into it
[21:28] <Ian_Corne> the hud thing was driving me crazy
[21:28] <Ian_Corne> uninstalled the ppa :p
[21:40] <Daekdroom> I deactivated it on ccsm
[21:40] <Daekdroom> It doesn't get along with fullscreen totem
[21:51] <Ian_Corne> indeed!
[21:53] <guntbert> Ian_Corne: where is that ppa? (feeling daring...)
[21:54] <Daekdroom> ppa:unity-team/hud
[21:54] <guntbert> thx Daekdroom
[23:02] <FernandoMiguel>  1177    root         root            1      0.11s       1.34s       172K        0K         0K         0K    --       -     R        1      75%     Xorg
[23:02] <FernandoMiguel> this isn't normal :S
[23:03] <Daekdroom> What I don't find normal about Xorg process over here is that it always eats more and more RAM.