[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[11:14] <dholbach> for some reason the bot in #ubuntu-devel ("@pilot in" which is supposed to change the topic) does not work
[11:14] <dholbach> does anyone have an idea?
[11:39] <AlanBell> looking dholbach
[11:40] <dholbach> awesome
[11:47] <AlanBell> dholbach: well I can't see the problem, the channel is +t which should mean anyone can set the topic, there are no specific flags for the bot, but there don't need to be. The bot is there
[11:47] <dholbach> hm, ok
[11:47] <Myrtti> huh?
[11:47] <jussi> +t means cant chane topic...
[11:47] <ubot4`> jussi: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:47] <Myrtti> doesn't +t work the opposite
[11:47] <LjL> AlanBell: +t means only ops can set the topic
[11:47] <AlanBell> oh, in that case maybe it should be -t
[11:47] <AlanBell> udevbot is not opped
[11:48] <Myrtti> it doesn't need to be
[11:48] <LjL> does it try to change through chanserv or directly though?
[11:48] <Myrtti> if it's got the right flags in chanserv
[11:48] <AlanBell> it has no rights in chanserv
[11:48] <AlanBell> should it be +t in chanserv?
[11:49] <AlanBell> and why did it suddenly stop working?
[11:50] <LjL> either +t in chanserv, if it tries to change it through chanserv, or +o, if it wants to change it directly... i'd presume it does it through chanserv, makes more sense
[11:51] <AlanBell> well it is +t in chanserv now
[11:52] <AlanBell> dholbach: want to try poking it again, see if that fixed it?
[11:52] <AlanBell> it is a ts2 bot
[11:57] <dholbach> AlanBell, no dice AFAICS
[11:58] <AlanBell> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/27/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t16:08
[11:58] <AlanBell> that is it happening last, oddly it says the topic was set by cjwatson, not by the bot
[11:59] <Myrtti> micahgcjwatson: I think the channels got set to +t somehow a few days go
[11:59] <LjL> AlanBell: "cjwatson: I think the channels got set to +t somehow a few days go"
[11:59] <LjL> Myrtti: :P
[11:59]  * Myrtti blinks
[11:59] <AlanBell> that would do it then
[12:00] <Myrtti> where did the cjwatson from my paste disappear?!?!
[12:00] <Myrtti> anyway
[12:01] <Myrtti> not that I'm the right person to say this or anything, but if the channel used not to have +t, then why use a bot to change the topic?
[12:01] <Myrtti> just wondering
[12:02] <jussi> because its simpler than fixing the topic everytime people break it ;)
[12:02] <AlanBell> just a shortcut, and it might create reports over time of who the patchpilot was
[12:04] <AlanBell> any obvious downside to opping the bot?
[12:08] <AlanBell> I opped it for now, we can look at getting it to use chanserv at some stage
[16:04] <m4v> AlanBell: only that it makes it stand out more :P
[16:23] <bkerensa> Good Morning IRC Folks :)
[16:23] <popey> Afternoon