| InHisName | is teddy bald ? Not covered all in fur ? | 02:05 |
|---|---|---|
| InHisName | Oh, Its you, Randy - rmg51- easy solve here.... Just use long underware to upgrade you to teddy bear warmpth status. | 02:07 |
| === Joe_CoT is now known as Josephine_CoT | ||
| === Josephine_CoT is now known as Joe_CoT | ||
| Sadin | night everyone | 06:16 |
| andrew | morning Sadin | 06:25 |
| Sadin | lol | 06:25 |
| InHisName | mornin' all | 06:25 |
| Sadin | im just goin to bed D: | 06:25 |
| Sadin | school in 6 and a half hrs | 06:26 |
| InHisName | If you make it by 5am, have a good morning and my the 5.5 hour conversation about bedtimes be fruitful. | 06:27 |
| * waltman had to clean up a flood in his bathroom :( | 06:33 | |
| waltman | crazy upstairs neighbor overflowed her toilet | 06:33 |
| waltman | attempting to belatedly head to sleep after a second visit from $super | 06:37 |
| andrew | I should get to bed so I can wake up and go skiing | 06:44 |
| InHisName | water or snow skiing, andrew ? | 08:42 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 10:21 |
| rmg51 | morning JonathanD | 10:27 |
| MutantTurkey | I need some help | 16:30 |
| MutantTurkey | when you are in a file dialog, and you press 'a' it jumps to the first 'a' entry | 16:31 |
| MutantTurkey | for example. | 16:31 |
| MutantTurkey | I wish to be able to type 'alphabet' and jump to the first 'alphabet' match. does any dialogs do this? | 16:32 |
| MutantTurkey | what I actually want to do is be able to filter things out | 16:37 |
| MutantTurkey | my ubuntu upgrade just died on me. | 17:17 |
| MutantTurkey | fk | 17:17 |
| MutantTurkey | fk fk fk | 17:17 |
| MutantTurkey | fk | 17:17 |
| MutantTurkey | fkkk | 17:17 |
| MutantTurkey | lets hope apt has enough magic to fix it | 17:18 |
| Resistance | ugh, did i mention i hate explosions of computers? | 17:18 |
| Resistance | i cant use IRC on Windows because of weird explosions in C :/ | 17:18 |
| Resistance | so sorry i disappeared there for a while :P | 17:19 |
| MutantTurkey | huh | 17:19 |
| MutantTurkey | I'm defiintely screwed. | 17:21 |
| MutantTurkey | this upgrade is going to hell | 17:21 |
| MutantTurkey | back to arch! | 17:21 |
| Resistance | heh. | 17:22 |
| Resistance | has pennbot worked for you all? do we need to add additionaal plugins? (I know we need additional admin level users) | 17:22 |
| MutantTurkey | what happened to old pennbot? | 17:22 |
| Resistance | it was exploded and taken down by its operator | 17:22 |
| Resistance | i volunteered to bring a new one up | 17:22 |
| MutantTurkey | oh | 17:23 |
| MutantTurkey | that is sad | 17:23 |
| * Resistance subsequently got the old PennBot nick dropped and added to the current nickserv for this PennBot | 17:23 | |
| Resistance | yeah, well meh | 17:23 |
| Resistance | at least its been running with a decent uptime | 17:23 |
| MutantTurkey | good | 17:24 |
| Resistance | its running off of a netbook which is always on xD | 17:24 |
| MutantTurkey | wait for the raspberry pi | 17:24 |
| MutantTurkey | jedijf: hey around? i need emotional support as my ubuntu install is rapidly going down the drain | 17:29 |
| MutantTurkey | it kicked out while upgrading | 17:29 |
| MutantTurkey | i rebooted and all the repositories are set to onieric now, so i am just apt-get distro-uprading it | 17:30 |
| MutantTurkey | sound legit? | 17:30 |
| ChinnoDog | My Banshee refuses to buffer streaming radio stations so it won't play right | 19:19 |
| ChinnoDog | I blame lamal666 | 19:19 |
| lamal666 | nope, not my code | 19:19 |
| ChinnoDog | oh, ok. haha | 19:19 |
| ChinnoDog | Do you know how to fix it? | 19:20 |
| lamal666 | no | 19:20 |
| ChinnoDog | There don't even seem to be any settings for streaming anywhere | 19:21 |
| ChinnoDog | Doesn't look like anyone can do it | 19:24 |
| MutantTurkey | banshee | 19:24 |
| MutantTurkey | seriously people use that? | 19:24 |
| MutantTurkey | almost as ridiculous as songbird. | 19:24 |
| ChinnoDog | What should I use? | 19:24 |
| MutantTurkey | rhythmbox? | 19:25 |
| MutantTurkey | I use moc however. I also like gogglesmm for slow machines | 19:25 |
| ChinnoDog | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10732 | 19:28 |
| ChinnoDog | Short review but I like it | 19:28 |
| ChinnoDog | I keep finding myself drawn to KDE apps | 19:29 |
| MutantTurkey | I use kde3.5 | 19:30 |
| MutantTurkey | it's great | 19:30 |
| ChinnoDog | I may have to try it | 19:30 |
| ChinnoDog | I've avoided KDE thus far just because it is another desktop environment to learn | 19:30 |
| MutantTurkey | that is true | 19:31 |
| MutantTurkey | It's quite different than Gnome 2 | 19:31 |
| MutantTurkey | i've actually found myself always saying "i wish I had X feature". with both gnome and kde | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | always trade offs | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | the current series of kde I cannot stand however. | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | the same goes for Unity and Gnome3 | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | kde 4, gnome 3 and unity were all half baked releases | 19:32 |
| ChinnoDog | I'm using xfce because it is lean | 19:32 |
| ChinnoDog | But if I keep installing KDE apps I might as well use KDE since I will be loading all the KDE libraries anyway | 19:33 |
| MutantTurkey | xfce is a solid desktop | 19:33 |
| MutantTurkey | what gnome should be | 19:33 |
| MutantTurkey | it doesn't do terrible much however | 19:33 |
| Sadin | ChinnoDog | 20:06 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin | 20:07 |
| Sadin | all i can say is the new kde 4 is a little upsetting coming from other desktop enviornments such as gnome or xfce i would use xfce MutantTurkeys project hes involved with TDE (a fork of kde 3.5 [the good kde]) | 20:07 |
| Sadin | xfce or tde :P | 20:08 |
| Sadin | yes MutantTurkey :D | 20:08 |
| ChinnoDog | Sadin: what is wrong with kde4? | 20:08 |
| MutantTurkey | BLOAT BLOAT BLOAT BLOAT BLOAT | 20:08 |
| Sadin | ChinnoDog the workflow is SO much different coming from other WMs in my opinion | 20:09 |
| Sadin | and yes BLOAT | 20:09 |
| MutantTurkey | i don't need nepomuk. stay the hell away! | 20:09 |
| Sadin | however MutantTurkey they have made some optomizations in speed that are alot better then kde 3,5 was | 20:09 |
| MutantTurkey | If i want to use 1 kde4 app, I DON'T want nepomuk and virtuoso indexing everything | 20:09 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin:definitely a lot of improvements | 20:09 |
| MutantTurkey | but, the style is changfed | 20:09 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey the style looks find too to me its just the way work is dont in kde 4 reminds me too much of my windows system | 20:10 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah I hate the look | 20:10 |
| Sadin | and discourages me from even doing work but thats my own opinion | 20:10 |
| MutantTurkey | it looks like to glossy and plastic | 20:10 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey gotta make packages for fedora today | 20:10 |
| Sadin | Pleia2 got me involved with the shimmer project and ive been helping out to get Shimmers themes into fedora xfce and its a okay so far :D im really happy cause its my first major contribution to Open source | 20:11 |
| MutantTurkey | gotta make packages for what? | 20:11 |
| MutantTurkey | that's awesome | 20:12 |
| MutantTurkey | contributing to foss stuff is the reason I am doing computers | 20:12 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey packaging up the shimmer projects themes for fedora and maintaining them | 20:12 |
| MutantTurkey | wow cool | 20:12 |
| Sadin | i know :D | 20:12 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey also got my drupal powered website up and running last night ive been busy busy busy http://sadin.ifndev.com/ | 20:14 |
| Sadin | going to blog about what i do with Web Design Fedora Design Team, Drupal, and Shimmer :) | 20:14 |
| MutantTurkey | cool | 20:15 |
| MutantTurkey | looking at it now | 20:15 |
| MutantTurkey | looks legit | 20:15 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey its got alot of work to go but its making its way | 20:17 |
| MutantTurkey | still pretty cool | 20:17 |
| Sadin | thanks :) | 20:17 |
| MutantTurkey | jedijf: remember that time I tried to setup a web site and it took me like 4 days | 20:17 |
| MutantTurkey | lol | 20:17 |
| MutantTurkey | so dumb back then | 20:17 |
| * Sadin likes fuel wordpress and drupal and RubyOnRails | 20:17 | |
| === Joe_CoT is now known as karaoke | ||
| ChinnoDog | Sadin: MutantTurkey: I will explore the default Kubuntu install first. Then if it sucks I will look at TDE. (Is that Trinity?) | 20:18 |
| Sadin | ChinnoDog what do you use now | 20:18 |
| MutantTurkey | yes | 20:18 |
| MutantTurkey | tde is hand in hand | 20:18 |
| ChinnoDog | Xubuntu | 20:18 |
| MutantTurkey | with trinity | 20:19 |
| MutantTurkey | I call it Trinity Desktop | 20:19 |
| Sadin | ChinnoDog whats wrong with Xubuntu? | 20:19 |
| ChinnoDog | My favorite apps are KDE based | 20:19 |
| Sadin | im using the xfce fedora spin (same thing) and i couldnt be happier | 20:19 |
| MutantTurkey | xfce limits my abilities for networking and integration | 20:19 |
| MutantTurkey | unfortunately | 20:19 |
| Sadin | Chinno dog ah well so are mine but i hate KDEs panels and widgets etc aka bloat | 20:19 |
| ChinnoDog | Also, I am going to be playing with BSD in the near future and they seem to like KDE | 20:19 |
| Sadin | imo using the best apps doesnt mean you need the entire enviornment with it cause technically you already have a KDE system installed on you PC your only using certain aspects of it when running the K based apps on xfce | 20:20 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: it's all about integration though | 20:21 |
| MutantTurkey | I like to use tde because i get everything working smoothly together | 20:21 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey what doesnt integreat | 20:21 |
| MutantTurkey | with trinity I can do great integration. for example I am ssh'd into a server | 20:21 |
| Sadin | I dont see the problems you do or i am not as picky :P | 20:21 |
| MutantTurkey | nevermind my example then | 20:22 |
| === karaoke is now known as Joe_CoT | ||
| Sadin | MutantTurkey heh i always have ssh open as well ( cant dream of my life without it) | 20:22 |
| Sadin | seriosuly im connected to my 2 vps's my FAS account and bitbucket all the time hehe | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | right | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | now with that, I am browising those apps in konqueror, then opening them in kate | 20:24 |
| MutantTurkey | very handy being able to use seemless network integration | 20:24 |
| Sadin | I see | 20:24 |
| MutantTurkey | with trinity apps seemlessly integrate into whatever network you are attached to | 20:24 |
| Sadin | i guess im more of a terminal fella :P | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | me too | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | don't worry | 20:25 |
| Sadin | cause gnome can do that same exact thing as well | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | I am a 100% terminal guy | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | gnome is a lot less easy about it | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | :-P | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | this is just like a breeze | 20:25 |
| Sadin | :O how so | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | I dunno | 20:25 |
| Sadin | thought it was pretty straighht forward lol | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | gnome was always crap for me | 20:25 |
| Sadin | Gnome2 i loved gnome3 i fell off... hard | 20:25 |
| MutantTurkey | mostly because the FM sucks in gnome and xfce | 20:25 |
| Sadin | anyway MutantTurkey i gotta reboot | 20:26 |
| Sadin | ill brb | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | okay | 20:26 |
| * Sadin returns | 20:29 | |
| adom | MutantTurkey: you don't like Nautilus? why not just use a different one then instead of writing off the whole WM? | 20:41 |
| MutantTurkey | because that is the core of the wm? | 20:42 |
| adom | fair enough i guess, but couldnt you just install a different FM? | 20:43 |
| adom | i see your point | 20:43 |
| MutantTurkey | there aren't any good viable gtk alternatives. Thunar is a ripoff of nautilus | 20:43 |
| adom | well, i guess what im asking is, what non-console-based FMs do you like? | 20:43 |
| adom | if any | 20:43 |
| MutantTurkey | Konqueror 3.5 | 20:43 |
| MutantTurkey | for it's kparts embedding | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | when I open a file, it nicely embeds it in the same window. | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | so when I click on a image, it doesn't launch a new program | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | it just opens it up within itself | 20:44 |
| ChinnoDog | ugh. My desktop was all fubar. I killed processes one at a time trying to enable me to move windows again and gave up and rebooted | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | same for movies, text files | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | everything | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | and it has a web browser | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | profile support | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | extensions, | 20:44 |
| MutantTurkey | lets me do cool stuff by accessing kio slaves | 20:45 |
| MutantTurkey | I can do apt:/ and it lets me browser my packages for example | 20:45 |
| MutantTurkey | remote:/ for remote shares and so on | 20:45 |
| adom | does that cause Konquerer to jack your memory? | 20:45 |
| adom | so you're basically using Konquerer as your WM, not KDE. | 20:46 |
| adom | i.e. all you need is Konquerer | 20:46 |
| adom | someday ill have to sit down with KDE and talk about our feelings | 20:47 |
| adom | maybe we can work something out | 20:47 |
| adom | like adults | 20:47 |
| MutantTurkey | meh | 20:48 |
| MutantTurkey | it allows me to smoothly do stuff | 20:48 |
| MutantTurkey | when I close the tab, that program closes | 20:48 |
| MutantTurkey | it just embeds the window nicely | 20:48 |
| MutantTurkey | it's good for browsing a lot of stuff | 20:48 |
| MutantTurkey | I use it to preview | 20:48 |
| adom | but before that happens, i need a romp in the sack with Arch (probably Archbang because I'm lazy) and Awesome2 | 20:49 |
| MutantTurkey | adom: ppffft go with scrotwm | 20:49 |
| MutantTurkey | that's all the tiling i'll ever need :P | 20:49 |
| MutantTurkey | I am a tiler at heart | 20:49 |
| adom | i like having new/seperate windows pop up for seperate programs | 20:49 |
| adom | just how i do | 20:49 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah makes sense | 20:50 |
| adom | i love my screen setup with seperate regions, so i need to try out a "tiling-based" WM | 20:50 |
| adom | since im so used to aptitude, would trying out pacman be hard to transition to? | 20:51 |
| MutantTurkey | NO | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | pacman is 10000 times better | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | its faster and easier and simpler and sane and kiss | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | I LOVE PACMAN IT'S THE BEST | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | :) | 20:52 |
| * MutantTurkey also forgot to mention he is a arch diehard | 20:52 | |
| * adom peers left and right at the rest of #ubuntu-us-pa and steps away from MutantTurkey. | 20:52 | |
| MutantTurkey | lol | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | they already know i'm weird | 20:52 |
| adom | haha | 20:52 |
| MutantTurkey | it must have been that nuclear meltdown that happened down the farm from me... | 20:53 |
| adom | well my fear is the complexity of Arch | 20:53 |
| adom | nah that wasnt it | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | lol | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | arch is 50000 times simpler | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | :) | 20:53 |
| adom | bollux | 20:53 |
| adom | you have to do everything from scratch | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | nothing is changed. ubuntu messes with everything | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | no you don't | 20:53 |
| adom | which is pretty much the polar opposite of ubuntu | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | everything just comes vanilla | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | there is no special way to do anything in arch | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | it's all upstream | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | so that means you don | 20:53 |
| adom | thats all jargon to me | 20:53 |
| MutantTurkey | 't get mangled versions or old versions | 20:54 |
| MutantTurkey | everything is upstream. | 20:54 |
| adom | yeah that | 20:54 |
| adom | like fish? | 20:54 |
| MutantTurkey | I consider it the most "linux" linux. | 20:54 |
| * adom chuckles | 20:54 | |
| MutantTurkey | hehe | 20:54 |
| adom | i would agree (not having used it before, but from what ive read) | 20:54 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey arch is a great distro but its not the most simple | 20:54 |
| MutantTurkey | define simple? | 20:55 |
| adom | the funny thing i like is that pretty much every answer in #arch is "RTFM" because its so in depth you cant grasp it until you learn it entirely | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | adom: you have to do some work | 20:55 |
| adom | simple = "easy to use" in my book | 20:55 |
| Sadin | the level of knowledge needed for a new linux user to jump into ubuntu or say fedora is far lowet then arch | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | but they'll also help you | 20:55 |
| adom | with means ubuntu | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | if you go to #arch and say "I ham having X, Y and Z issues, I read A B C and tried D E F | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | they'll help | 20:55 |
| adom | Mint is nice for new users also, though its a derivative of ubuntu | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | but our wiki is fantastic, and covers everything | 20:55 |
| MutantTurkey | adom: not anymore, it's debian based now? | 20:55 |
| adom | no shit. hmm | 20:56 |
| adom | meh | 20:56 |
| * adom shrugs. | 20:56 | |
| adom | still like Mint | 20:56 |
| adom | i debated switching from ubuntu to Mint when ubuntu 11 released with unity | 20:56 |
| MutantTurkey | lol unity | 20:56 |
| * adom spits on the floor. | 20:56 | |
| MutantTurkey | halfbaked crap | 20:56 |
| adom | still need to try gnome3, but dont have high hopes for it | 20:57 |
| adom | i like my linux easy to use (i.e. ubuntu atm) and lightweight (gnome2 atm) | 20:57 |
| Sadin | got MutantTurkey the trinity mirrors have been going down left and right :/ | 20:58 |
| adom | if i wanted a bloated graphics display id use only my Windows7 machine | 20:58 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: what? | 20:58 |
| MutantTurkey | I just upgraded to onieric with notrouble... | 20:58 |
| MutantTurkey | rebooting now | 20:58 |
| MutantTurkey | wish me luck | 20:58 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey i keep failing to connect to the mirrors and i entred the through copy/paste | 20:58 |
| adom | gluck | 20:58 |
| lamalex | ha, my irc hilight for bong has been set off 4 times today, none of them for what i expect | 21:07 |
| ChinnoDog | lol | 21:08 |
| MutantTurkey | it worked | 21:10 |
| adom | runnin unity now? | 21:13 |
| MutantTurkey | no | 21:14 |
| MutantTurkey | the oneirc upgrade | 21:14 |
| MutantTurkey | it sucks though | 21:14 |
| MutantTurkey | fscked up a lot of stuff I had | 21:14 |
| adom | that's what you get. | 21:14 |
| adom | for trying to move past dependable ubuntu 10 | 21:14 |
| MutantTurkey | for using shitty ubuntu. | 21:14 |
| MutantTurkey | sigh | 21:15 |
| adom | haha | 21:15 |
| adom | speaking of, downloading archbang iso now | 21:15 |
| adom | gonna toss in a vm and mess around | 21:15 |
| MutantTurkey | why are you downloading archbang? | 21:15 |
| adom | because its arch, but easy mode | 21:18 |
| MutantTurkey | pfft | 21:19 |
| adom | i just dont feel like spending 4 hours learning how to start up my linux distro | 21:20 |
| jedijf | adom: arch is a lot easier than everyone thinks | 22:13 |
| jedijf | adom: nike | 22:13 |
| jedijf | hate konqueror kate is liveable linux is awesome because of these differences of opinions/systems/trials and in everyone else's case...errors | 22:17 |
| JonathanD | got a 10x10 screen gazebo | 22:28 |
| adom | jedijf: nike? | 22:41 |
| Sadin | adom i would assume that means nice | 22:42 |
| Sadin | :P | 22:42 |
| adom | "nice" doesnt seem to have context in the conversation | 22:42 |
| * adom shrugs. | 22:42 | |
| adom | anywho. im out for the night, back tomorrow. | 22:42 |
| Sadin | see ya | 22:45 |
| === Joe_CoT is now known as loki_____ | ||
| === loki_____ is now known as Joe_CoT | ||
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