| mandel | good morning all! | 09:09 |
|---|---|---|
| JamesTait | Good morning all! | 09:36 |
| mandel | JamesTait, morning :) | 09:39 |
| * mandel logs off | 09:39 | |
| JamesTait | Must be something I said. ;) | 09:41 |
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| mandel | briancurtin, morning! how was the flight? | 12:27 |
| duanedesign | hello mandel | 12:28 |
| karni | Good morning! | 12:33 |
| mandel | duanedesign, morning! | 12:36 |
| ralsina | And good morning everyone! | 13:18 |
| mandel | ralsina, morning! | 13:34 |
| mandel | ralsina, I have a small question, during the sprint, are we going to have stand ups? | 13:35 |
| mandel | or will it me just me and dobey.. | 13:35 |
| ralsina | mandel: you, dobey and I can have them starting tomorrow | 13:35 |
| mandel | ralsina, ok, so we skip today, sounds reasonable :) | 13:36 |
| ralsina | mandel: cool | 13:36 |
| mandel | ok, time to lunch | 13:41 |
| * mandel lunch | 13:41 | |
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| mandel | alecu_, ping | 14:59 |
| === alecu_ is now known as alecu | ||
| alecu | mandel, pong | 14:59 |
| mandel | alecu, remember that we have to talk with lisettte in a few mins | 15:00 |
| alecu | mandel, my internet connection is shitty | 15:01 |
| alecu | mandel, I'll try listening | 15:01 |
| gatox | hi u1! | 15:02 |
| mandel | alecu, ok, are you at the hotel? | 15:03 |
| alecu | mandel, can you join mumble, so I can try it? | 15:03 |
| mandel | gatox, buenos dias! | 15:03 |
| mandel | alecu, sure, on it | 15:03 |
| alecu | mandel, yup, I'm at the hole | 15:03 |
| mandel | alecu, say hi to the rest! | 15:03 |
| alecu | I mean... hotel :-) | 15:03 |
| gatox | mandel, we are going to vote at the end of the sprint.... but i think that is going to be funnier without you | 15:03 |
| * gatox wants to make mandel cries | 15:04 | |
| mandel | gatox, bah, I know you are liying :P | 15:04 |
| gatox | jeje | 15:04 |
| briancurtin | mandel: from what i hear we are going to be light on curse words without you being here | 15:21 |
| nessita | hello everyone! | 15:28 |
| nessita | net connection is not very good :-/ | 15:28 |
| mandel | briancurtin, they are a bunch or girls :P | 15:37 |
| ralsina | mandel: yes, and we are missing the one that sings "I feel pretty" in all the sprints | 15:38 |
| mandel | nessita, morning! | 15:38 |
| mandel | ralsina, exactly! | 15:38 |
| ralsina | ping alecu | 15:54 |
| alecu | mandel, re: ssl details: we should check both qnetwork and libsoup | 15:56 |
| mandel | alecu, yep, I'll do, we need to see if we get all that info so that we can show it to the user | 15:56 |
| alecu | mandel, right. | 15:56 |
| mandel | alecu, at least we have postponed all the wizard work which we do not have time to do | 15:57 |
| alecu | mandel, yes, that's good. | 15:57 |
| mandel | alecu, I'll look into that to see if we can get anything decent and will keep track of the work via the bugs | 15:58 |
| mandel | alecu, I'll let you with the sprint, don't gain too much weight with all the food they will be serving you ;) | 15:58 |
| alecu | mandel, we are not getting food here... we are supposed to grab our own foods. | 16:00 |
| alecu | mandel, in fact, we are about to go hunting some cows right now. | 16:01 |
| mandel | alecu, what?? that is really lame.. | 16:01 |
| alecu | mandel, we are getting expensed, though :-) | 16:01 |
| mandel | alecu, oh, that is a diff thing :) | 16:01 |
| alecu | mandel, btw: let's have a meeting tomorrow morning to go over lisettte | 16:01 |
| alecu | I mean, lisettte's slides :-) | 16:01 |
| alecu | http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/qnetworkreply.html#sslErrors | 16:02 |
| mandel | alecu, ah... you scared me there a minute! | 16:02 |
| lisettte | mandel: hahaha | 16:02 |
| alecu | mandel, why are you scared!? | 16:02 |
| mandel | alecu, don't want to see you naked... what would he do, hold hands.. and the conversation would be awkward :P | 16:03 |
| lisettte | :D | 16:03 |
| alecu | mandel, we can always do some "sword fighting" | 16:03 |
| lisettte | eeeeew | 16:03 |
| mandel | no | 16:03 |
| mandel | no no | 16:03 |
| mandel | no | 16:03 |
| alecu | :-) | 16:03 |
| lisettte | rolling off my chair here | 16:03 |
| alecu | mandel, so, I see that the qtnetwork errors are very detailed indeed: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/qsslerror.html#SslError-enum | 16:04 |
| mandel | alecu, libsoup is probably going to be a diff story.. | 16:05 |
| * mandel looks | 16:05 | |
| alecu | mandel, and qt even has a "short localized human-readable description of the error" (QSslError::errorString) | 16:06 |
| alecu | that is *great* news. | 16:06 |
| mandel | alecu, and on soup I can only find this: http://developer.gnome.org/libsoup/stable/SoupSocket.html#SoupSSLError | 16:06 |
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| gatox | lisettte, ping | 17:27 |
| nessita | hello! | 17:32 |
| nessita | dobey: hello there! I replied to your comments in gtk-gi branch | 17:32 |
| mandel | gatox, lisettte is in a diff time zone, you are going to have it relly hard to contact her | 17:39 |
| gatox | mandel, :( | 17:39 |
| mandel | gatox, I mentioned in the team meeting she was in abu dabi | 17:39 |
| mandel | gatox, not everyone is in argeintina hehe | 17:40 |
| gatox | mandel, ahhhhhhhh true | 17:40 |
| gatox | mandel, sorry.... i thought we were at the center of the universe | 17:40 |
| gatox | jejeje | 17:40 |
| mandel | gatox, hehe if you want anything for here, either you send her an email or you tell me.. bu it will be hard because my 10 am are her 8 pm... | 17:41 |
| gatox | mandel, i just needed a new asset..... | 17:42 |
| mandel | gatox, then email sounds reasonable | 17:42 |
| gatox | mandel, yap | 17:42 |
| mandel | facundobatista, ping? | 17:57 |
| facundobatista | mandel, pong | 17:58 |
| mandel | facundobatista, I'm trying to fix that race condition we talked about, do you have a similar problem on linux? | 17:59 |
| facundobatista | mandel, refresh my memory, please :| | 18:02 |
| mandel | facundobatista, when we do a start watch on windows we create a list of subdirst of the first level being watched. | 18:03 |
| mandel | facundobatista, there might be a case in which when we create the list is not yet complete because the user made a move that took along time | 18:03 |
| mandel | facundobatista, with the current use of the ReadDirectoryChangesW that is really hard to fix in an efficient way.. I have a diff approach but it will certainly take a loong time to implement | 18:04 |
| jono | kudos: https://twitter.com/#!/sebastiaansamyn/status/163906879544762368 | 18:04 |
| mandel | beuno, ^ | 18:05 |
| facundobatista | mandel, ah! no, we don't have the same problem, as watches are per-directory only in pyinotify | 18:05 |
| mandel | facundobatista, how common do you think is that situation? | 18:06 |
| mandel | facundobatista, it will leak events for those dirs that do not have a watch jet | 18:06 |
| facundobatista | mandel, the race condition to happen? probably not very common, but what happens if it happens? just a leak for dirs you don't know yet? | 18:07 |
| mandel | facundobatista, yes, events that should have been blocked reach sd | 18:07 |
| dobey | i'm off today, but can my libubuntuone and rhythmbox-ubuntuone branches get some reviews? really want to get them in the release tomorrow, so we can have a working music store solution again in precise. | 18:08 |
| mandel | facundobatista, the deal is, the ideal way to get all this fixed would be to get a layer closer to the file system on windows and I have some code that does that, but is a dangerous change | 18:08 |
| mandel | facundobatista, not to say: un cambio de un par de cojones que puede hacer que el infierno se hiele | 18:08 |
| mandel | that kind | 18:08 |
| facundobatista | je | 18:09 |
| mandel | dobey, branches! | 18:09 |
| mandel | facundobatista, id like to give this as a partial fix, add a bug with the work to be done to do things in the proper way | 18:09 |
| dobey | https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/libubuntuone/split-ui-lib/+merge/90529 | 18:09 |
| facundobatista | mandel, ok, what about the "don't iterate on the dict"? | 18:09 |
| dobey | https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/oh-a-store/+merge/90551 | 18:10 |
| mandel | facundobatista, that is sorted, will push the changes and ping you :) | 18:10 |
| mandel | facundobatista, I did not want to ping you with something halfway unless we agreed je | 18:10 |
| facundobatista | mandel, :) | 18:11 |
| mandel | dobey, will be early my morning good enough for those branches? | 18:11 |
| dobey | nessita: btw, 50 min. til meeting :) | 18:11 |
| dobey | mandel: should be. | 18:11 |
| mandel | dobey, ok, then I call it a EOD for me and will give you the reviews early my morning :) | 18:12 |
| dobey | though i would prefer to have them landed in trunk before tomorrow, so when i wake up, i don't have to worry about that so much, and can only do releasing for once ;) | 18:12 |
| dobey | mandel: cheers then. | 18:12 |
| mandel | dobey, do you really want a review from me at 7:15? | 18:12 |
| mandel | dobey, I can take a look, but beware stupid questions might arise! | 18:12 |
| dobey | well hopefully a couple sprinters could look at it :) | 18:13 |
| dobey | you can go eat/drink/rugby/whatever | 18:13 |
| mandel | dobey, we went from -lubuntuoneui-1.0 to -lubuntuoneui-3.0, what happened with 2.0? | 18:13 |
| dobey | 1.0: steal underpands. 2.0: ???. 3.0: profit. | 18:14 |
| mandel | ? | 18:14 |
| dobey | the -3.0 is follow convetion with everything else that builds on gtk3 | 18:15 |
| mandel | dobey, ok, got it :) | 18:16 |
| mandel | dobey, and the sharp crap goes way to do the lack of a mono thing for the gir, right? | 18:16 |
| mandel | the ubuntuone-sharp.pc.in | 18:16 |
| dobey | yeah i should have removed it before. mono bindings might come back when gtk# 3.x is in use and we can reasonably support it | 18:18 |
| mandel | dobey, 'Downloaded %sB' => 'Downloaded %s' why? was it on purpose? | 18:21 |
| dobey | mandel: yes. see commit message. "to avoid KiBB in strings" | 18:21 |
| dobey | because the glib function returns with the B it seems. at least, i was seeing double Bs in testing | 18:22 |
| dobey | granted, I only saw it for like 500ms due to my network speed, but still | 18:23 |
| dobey | mandel: anyway, go do something more fun, you don't have to review it right now | 18:24 |
| dobey | i'm only sort of around, because i need to go to the ubuntu dmb meeting in ~35 min | 18:24 |
| mandel | dobey, ok then :) | 18:25 |
| mandel | dobey, will do a full review tom morning with tests included | 18:26 |
| mandel | all, laters! | 18:26 |
| ralsina | bye mandel! | 18:28 |
| mandel | ralsina, nos vemos! | 18:30 |
| dobey | nessita: hi. 14 minutes :) | 18:46 |
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| gatox | mandel, ping | 18:51 |
| dobey | gah, no nessita | 18:52 |
| dobey | gatox: stop stealing the bandwidth | 18:52 |
| gatox | ralsina, do you want to make a small review? | 18:53 |
| gatox | dobey, i should close the torrent :P | 18:53 |
| ralsina | sure! | 18:53 |
| gatox | ralsina, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/reconnect-button/+merge/90758 | 18:53 |
| dobey | gatox: or stop backing up to the resurrection ship. | 18:54 |
| gatox | dobey, jejejej | 18:55 |
| alecu | dobey, nessita had some issues with her laptop, and now is trying to get at the dmb meeting with facundo's laptop. | 18:57 |
| dobey | alecu: ok | 18:58 |
| facundobatista | dobey, ubuntu-devel, right? | 18:58 |
| dobey | #ubuntu-meeting | 18:58 |
| gatox | nessita1, are you busy? | 19:07 |
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| nessita1 | dobey: ping | 20:02 |
| dobey | nessita1: :) | 20:03 |
| nessita1 | dobey: yey! did you got that last thing that micah said? | 20:04 |
| dobey | yes | 20:04 |
| nessita1 | dobey: would you explain to me what happened with that? was there a particular problem with the libubuntuone soname? | 20:06 |
| dobey | the soname didn't change yet. but the last release removed the python and mono bindings. the release tomorrow will change the soname though and break a lot more stuff. the binary packages should have been fine with the last release though. source package wouldn't rebuild though, but there was also a new banshee release, and i asked hyperair to disable the u1 extension. maybe there was some confusion, but i haven't heard anything | 20:09 |
| nessita1 | dobey: so are we breaking a lot of packages with tomorrow's release? | 20:11 |
| dobey | no | 20:12 |
| ralsina | dobey: are we not breaking banshee if we release libu1 tomorrow? | 20:15 |
| dobey | ralsina: i already broke banshee. | 20:16 |
| dobey | ralsina: also, the old binary packages will still be able to remain installed | 20:16 |
| ralsina | dobey: in a backwards way, ok | 20:16 |
| ralsina | dobey: can you explain why it's broken? Just curious here | 20:20 |
| gatox | dobey, happy birthday you cylon!! | 20:21 |
| nessita | buh, network issues + crappy wirelress driver = not good | 20:22 |
| nessita | dobey: sorry, you were saying? (and Happy Birthday!) | 20:22 |
| dobey | ralsina: we won't be able to continue building mono bindings (plus you can't embed gtk3 inside gtk2) | 20:23 |
| ralsina | dobey: ok | 20:23 |
| dobey | nessita: i were saying, the upload tomorrow won't cause any real problems, no | 20:24 |
| nessita | dobey: because we already broke things? :-) | 20:24 |
| dobey | heh | 20:26 |
| nessita | :-/ | 20:27 |
| dobey | nessita: well, the binaries aren't broken. the source won't rebuild without mono bindings though | 20:29 |
| nessita | dobey: I see. Did ralsina metion to you his suggestion about releases tomorrow? | 20:32 |
| dobey | no? | 20:35 |
| nessita | dobey: he suggested that we might skip tomorrow releases due to me being in sprint and the libubuntuone breakage. I wanted to know your thoughts (I mentioned the benefits of having periodic releases, and who we try to stick to that). I'm happy to do releases during lunchtime, for exmaple | 20:37 |
| dobey | i think we should do them. but we can discuss it tomorrow | 20:37 |
| nessita | dobey: sure, I'm +1 to do them as well | 20:38 |
| dobey | ok | 20:38 |
| dobey | i'm back to my day off then :) | 20:38 |
| nessita | dobey: happy bday! | 20:38 |
| dobey | gracias | 20:39 |
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| cjohnston | Is there something similar to --rescan-from-scratch='' on windows? | 21:32 |
| dobey | cjohnston: u1sdtool should have the same options on both platforms. | 21:48 |
| cjohnston | dobey: is it called by u1sdtool.exe on windows i guess? | 21:49 |
| dobey | yes | 21:50 |
| cjohnston | dobey: when I tried, it said error, need more than one volume to unpack | 22:00 |
| dobey | cjohnston: hrmm, file a bug please. perhaps it's broken on windows, but it should work. | 22:04 |
| cjohnston | dobey: does there actually need to be a volume ID? I know in ubuntu that --rescan-from-scratch='' works | 22:05 |
| dobey | cjohnston: i don't know much about that code. i just know that everything in u1sdtool should work on both platforms :) | 22:06 |
| cjohnston | ok | 22:06 |
| cjohnston | Once I called it right, it atleast responded.. if its working as it should or not is a different story. | 22:06 |
| dobey | cool. if it's not working right, or you get weird errors (like not enough values to unpack), please file bugs about them | 22:10 |
| cjohnston | sounds good. thanks dobey | 22:10 |
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