[16:05] <astraljava> Hey guys, we (as in Ubuntu Studio) want to do the similar thing with the ubiquity plugin as you, but now I'm failing to find the relevant branch of your project on LP, to have a better example for constructing ours.
[16:06] <astraljava> I know of https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/edubuntu-live/precise, but I understand that this is not the place where your devs tweak things, or is it?
[16:12] <astraljava> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.precise <-- is that the place?
[16:46] <astraljava> I suppose I could clarify my question a bit. I'm especially interested in those two .py files, that are in the ubiquity/plugins/ directory. Where do they come from? I can't find that branch anywhere, unless the first that I linked to is actually the one where the work happens.
[17:01] <viva> Hi. Help please! I have run a run a 32 client edubuntu network at Eden Campus, in Kartara, South Africa fro the last six years. Last year, we stayed at 10.o4, since the client processors needed 'cx8 and cmov' instructtions in the kernel. This year, we bought 5 new clients.
[17:01] <viva> bah
[17:01] <viva> OK please help if possibele
[17:01] <viva> I run a 32 client network in karatara
[17:02] <viva> We have used edubuntu for 6 years. And it is awesome
[17:02] <viva> last year we stayed on 10.04, since the client cpus needed cx8 and cmov instructions (geodes)
[17:03] <viva> This year we bought 5 new clients, using ASROCK G41M - VS3
[17:03] <viva> it has the X4500 graphics chips from intel
[17:04] <viva> The d...m things boot, get ip address, load image, and as the screen goes to graphics - it blanks out with
[17:04] <viva> a flashing cursor..
[17:05] <viva> The new clients replace old faulty geode units.
[17:05] <viva> Q: how do i get the new units to display graphics
[17:05] <viva> and
[17:06] <viva> Can I mix the new technology with the old on the client side network?
[17:08] <viva> I imagine it is a 10.04 driver issue - since three variants of the mother boards behaved the same.
[17:19] <highvoltage> UDW Edubuntu session in #ubuntu-classroom in around 10 minutes
[17:19] <highvoltage> hey viva
[17:19] <viva> hi HV
[17:20] <highvoltage> where in SA is Kartara? I've never heard of it :)
[17:20] <viva> Nera Knysna. In the forests of the outeniqua mountains
[17:20] <highvoltage> aah
[17:20] <highvoltage> viva: have you checked whether you have an lts.conf file? perhaps it's hardcoded to use a specific driver for all the clients?
[17:20] <viva> Its a small loogfer town historically
[17:21] <highvoltage> (I'll be back a bit later)
[17:21] <viva> Its worth a look. Ill check after dinner.
[17:21] <highvoltage> great
[17:21] <viva> ty. any suggestions welcome at this stage.
[17:22] <highvoltage> knysna is one of the few parts of SA I haven't been in yet :)
[17:22] <viva> Some say its the best part - ocean, mountains, gorges and ancient forests
[17:23] <highvoltage> I had friends go there for honeymoon earlier this month and they *really* enjoyed it
[17:23] <viva> They probably stayed at my place - I run Teniqua Treetops ;-)
[17:23] <viva> were big on honeymoons
[17:24] <viva> Where are you located?
[17:44] <viva> ?
[17:45] <viva> Hi, Voltage. There is only the example lts.conf /opt/ltsp/i386/etc.
[17:46] <viva> No screen settings, everything commented out. :(
[18:03] <viva> ^C test
[18:03] <viva> test
[18:03] <highvoltage> stgraber: I mentioned weblive during our UDW session and it got some good feedback :)
[18:03] <stgraber> highvoltage: cool
[18:07] <viva> highvoltage: Client boots to blank screen after loading initrd.img . daemon.log says: tftp: client does not accept options.
[18:07] <viva> No lts.conf is present.
[18:08] <highvoltage> hmm, that doesn't sounds like a display related issue
[18:08] <highvoltage> stgraber: do you have an idea what could cause that tftp message ^^^?
[18:09] <viva> It happens on two 10.04 servers, and three different new MB, but not on 27 VXL geode clients.
[18:09] <viva> no, a google says to ignore tftp does not accept options -
[18:10] <viva> no idea
[18:11] <stgraber> yeah, I've seen that tftp message and it's indeed safe to ignore
[18:11] <viva> hi stgraber
[18:11] <viva> This relates to new clients on a 10.04 netowrk of clients using geode processors
[18:12] <viva> Funny thing, if we plug an Nvidea small card into the mb, it boots fine.
[18:13] <viva> Doesn't detect monitor size though, runs at 1024*768 max
[18:14] <stgraber> is the thin client responding to ping (you can probably find the IP address in /var/log/syslog)
[18:15] <stgraber> (unfortunately I really don't have time to help you debug this, we have alpha-2 to release by Thursday and people are poking me everywhere to fix installer bugs in Ubuntu ...)
[18:18] <viva> Client gets address of 192.168.0.143 - (DHCPACK). Ping fails - destination host unreachable
[18:18] <viva> Sorry stgraber. But i am a bit desperate. 3 days.... this is bugging me.
[18:19] <viva> Any clues welcome!
[18:20] <highvoltage> viva: do those machines have 2 network cards in them?
[18:20] <highvoltage> (ah never mind)
[18:20] <viva> The server has 2 nics. the client has 1 - 100mbs
[18:21] <viva> lol
[18:21] <alkisg> (08:12:38 μμ) viva: Funny thing, if we plug an Nvidea small card into the mb, it boots fine. ==> The same client works with an nvidia card but not with a geode card?
[18:22] <viva> The geodes work fine - 27 machines for 6yrs (VXL)
[18:23] <viva> the new boards are ASROCK G41M -VS# with X4500 graphics on board
[18:23] <viva> They fail, unless we plug in a ge 220 nvidea ( ithink that was the model)
[18:23] <alkisg> So these boards don't boot with the onboard graphics card, but they boot if you put an nvidia graphics card on them?
[18:24] <viva> Yes. And we tried it with 3 boards with the same chipsets - 2 ASROCK variants and a gigabyte - at the shop today
[18:25] <viva> they all fail without an external card
[18:25] <alkisg> So if it's a graphics driver issue, why are we mentioning tftp problems etc?
[18:25] <alkisg> Just try with a newer kernel...
[18:25] <viva> Because i can ping the client after it fails.
[18:26] <viva> I cant use a newer kernel because of "cx8 & cmov" not in newer kernels?
[18:26] <viva> or i don't know how anyway ;)))
[18:27] <viva> Cannot ping after graphics fail
[18:28] <viva> we plan to replace the geodes next year, but dont have $ for 27 new ones this year
[18:28] <alkisg> You can have different kernels for each set of clients
[18:28] <viva> aaah. yesss. how? please!
[18:29] <alkisg> E.g. you apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric in the chroot to get the new kernel, chmod +r $CHROOT/* to make it readable, ltsp-update-image/kernels,
[18:30] <alkisg> and then all clients will boot with the new kernel,
[18:30] <viva> yes?
[18:30] <alkisg> except for those that you put special entries in pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address
[18:30] <alkisg> (i.e. the geode ones)
[18:31] <alkisg> $ cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/01-00-0b-cd-c7-55-77
[18:31] <alkisg> DEFAULT old-vmlinuz ro initrd=old-initrd.img nbd_proxy=false nocompcache
[18:31] <alkisg> Something like that
[18:32] <alkisg> Check first that it works with the new kernel. Backup your /opt/ltsp too, in case you do something wroing.
[18:32] <viva> OK. I am going to try that out - and see if i can get anywhere.
[18:32] <viva> ty, i will read up a bit too.
[18:33] <alkisg> If the newer kernel isn't enough, you can even have different chroots, e.g. a lucid one and an oneiric one
[18:34] <alkisg> (e.g. if newer xorg bits are needed)
[18:35] <viva> mmm. one step at a time for me ;)
[18:52] <highvoltage> stgraber: are these the images that need testing for alpha2 or are there new ones on the way? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20120131/
[18:54] <stgraber> highvoltage: whatever is on iso.qa.ubuntu.com is what needs testing (unless they are marked as rebuilding). I believe they'll all be rebuilt for a kernel and some gnome-settings-daemon stuff (also unity-greeter apparently) but doing an initial test is always good and the delta (using zsync) won't be too big
[20:39] <bmoez>  i'm working on project which it goal is to represent ubuntu as the official os in my country tunisia after windows xp ( for familar uses and education from primer school to professional school), but i didn't find yet a complet list of apps that will be used in all domain of education (phys, tech, maths..), and many apps are not available in .deb or .rpm formts (like salomé), So can i found help at edubuntu?
[20:44] <highvoltage> hey bmoez
[20:45] <highvoltage> that list sounds interesting :)
[20:46] <bmoez> can you give some exemples of apps
[20:47] <bmoez> or a site where can i found help? :D
[20:50] <highvoltage> bmoez: have you checked Ubuntu Software Center?
[20:50] <highvoltage> it has all the packaged apps (many of them not installed in Edubuntu by default)
[20:52] <bmoez> i 'm using ubuntu , are there more apps at edubuntu ?
[20:53] <brebre> can someone help me
[20:53] <brebre> with edubuntu
[20:54] <brebre> please
[20:54] <brebre> I can't make my wiFi to automaticly connect
[20:55] <brebre> it asks for password on every log in
[20:55] <brebre> I have edubuntu 7
[20:59] <highvoltage> bmoez: they have the same available packages, you can even install the edubuntu desktop packages from software center in ubuntu
[20:59] <highvoltage> brebre: does it say something about unlocking a keyring?
[21:01] <highvoltage> brebre: it probably is...
[21:02] <highvoltage> brebre: you can go to Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption keys and update your keyring password setting
[21:02]  * highvoltage is off