[00:00] <levi501de> i am curious why i would be having graphical lag with a load average of ~.35
[00:00] <levi501de> and xorg is eating up memory and cpu but not more than my system should be able to handle
[00:00] <levi501de> which is why i was wondering how i would go about seeing what is querying xorg
[00:01] <westmi> idk, but I would re-install and see if it fixes it
[00:02] <levi501de> oh man reinstalling is not something I can do lightly man :D
[00:02] <westmi> why?
[00:02] <levi501de> thats like a weekends worth of work
[00:02] <levi501de> I customize a lot of things on my system
[00:02] <levi501de> its just a pain having to go through all that again
[00:02] <levi501de> anyways i doubt that will fix the problem
[00:02] <westmi> yeah, i know how that is
[00:03] <levi501de> this seems like a bug in the latest release
[00:03] <levi501de> if i do a reinstall and it doesnt fix it i am no where closer to fixing the problem
[00:03] <levi501de> it could be nvidia drivers but i dont know how to watch the process and see what is making requests to X
[00:04] <westmi> ah
[00:04] <westmi> I know what your talking about now
[00:04] <westmi> I got the same problem, I just live with it
[00:04] <levi501de> well thanks for the chat man, i'll be back on in 20 or so gonna reboot i've made a couple changes to the .conf file and im gonna reboot and test
[00:04] <westmi> it happens with firefox also
[00:04] <levi501de> yep
[00:05] <westmi> both browsers do it
[00:05] <levi501de> yep
[00:05] <westmi> might be a kde thing
[00:06] <westmi> sometimes it doesnt even start, and I have to click it again to get it to start
[00:19] <levi501d> ok rebooted going to see what happens now
[00:30] <skierpage> Is it possible to upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 (daily or the ?soon-to-be-released! Alpha2)  using something like `kdesudo "/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade` with the Alternate install CD?
[00:33] <skierpage> seems you don't even have to download an image, `sudo do-release-upgrade -f kde -d` according to http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57044-Upgrading-11-10-to-12-04  Almost *too* easy ;-)
[00:59] <fvolk> alguien habla español??
[03:47] <almoxarife> how do i make kwallet accept my login with password as the 'open wallets' auth?
[03:53] <almoxarife> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=97002  <-- and the answer is no, maybe, not sure what the answer is
[04:00] <rockl> Just a thought, but what if you just disable it? There's an option to do that anyway.
[04:14] <almoxarife> disable it?
[04:30] <ken__> DaskreecH: hi
[04:30] <DaskreecH> hi ken__
[04:30] <DaskreecH> hows it going?
[04:31] <ken__> Kubuntu is doing well today and I am too thanks
[04:31] <ken__> long hunny-do list today
[04:31] <DaskreecH> Hunny-do ?
[04:31] <ken__> my wife had a list of things for me to take care of
[04:31] <ken__> :)
[04:31] <DaskreecH> ha ha ok
[04:32] <ken__> ok, hope you are well too
[04:32] <ken__> Muon is still sick
[04:34] <javier__> hola
[04:35] <ken__> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/31/Kens_computer_screen5.jpeg
[04:35] <DaskreecH> Hola
[04:36] <ken__> He's gone
[04:36] <DaskreecH> Did you report the bug
[04:36] <DaskreecH>  I know
[04:36] <ken__> got that, sorry
[04:36] <DaskreecH> Oh wait
[04:36] <DaskreecH> >_>
[04:36] <DaskreecH> I may know something about this
[04:36] <ken__> I tried to reinstall it figuring it was part of the issue from yesterday
[04:39] <DaskreecH> I think it may just be crashy :)
[04:39] <DaskreecH> Im looking through the bugs to see if there is a workaround
[04:39] <DaskreecH>  I remembered something about one
[04:39] <ken__> o_O nice...
[04:56] <DaskreecH> Hmm not seeing it right now :(
[04:57] <DaskreecH> Guess you can just use konsole or kpackagekit
[04:57] <DaskreecH> !info kpackagekit
[04:59] <ken__> There were a lot of bug reports for this
[05:00] <DaskreecH> Yep
[05:00] <ken__> so I open konsole and type kpackagekit?
[05:02] <ken__> ok it's done, now what's next?
[05:03] <ken__> needy I know, your patience is commendable
[05:05] <DaskreecH> ken__: oh you had kpackagekit installed?
[05:06] <ken__> I'm learning a lot going through this process to hopefully help someone else in the future
[05:07] <ken__> Yes, I installed it thinking that's what was needed
[05:10] <DaskreecH> ken__: Ok kdesudo kpackagekit should get you working I think
[05:11] <ken__> what is kdesudo?
[05:12] <ken__> DaskreecH: Nothing happened
[05:14] <DaskreecH> ken__: kdesudo should ask you for a password
[05:14] <DaskreecH> well your password
[05:14] <DaskreecH>  it's a GUI sudo
[05:14] <ken__> ah, it did then that was it
[05:15] <ken__> nothing else happened that I know of
[05:17] <DaskreecH> alt+F2 -> kpackagekit
[05:19] <ken__> command not found
[05:22] <DaskreecH> sudo apt-get install kpackagekit
[05:26] <ken__> DaskreecH: I did that... http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/31/plasma-desktopAO1769.jpg
[05:26] <DaskreecH> lol
[05:27] <DaskreecH> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:27] <DaskreecH> when that's done try kdesudo apper
[05:29] <ken__> ok, it'll have to wait for now. I'll try that in the morning (well, later this morning)
[05:30] <ken__> Thanks for your help again, command line is getting less scary
[05:31] <DaskreecH> :-) ok
[06:34] <naught101> I have a laptop with an Nvidia GeForce G8400M G video card. I have had it successfully boot once since installing kubuntu, but now it just stops half way through booting. I'm currently booted into kubuntu on it by way of a flash drive
[06:35] <naught101> I see in the kdm.log: fatal server error: no screesn found
[06:35] <naught101> I did run the nvidia-xconfig before, but I since deleted the xorg.conf
[06:36] <naught101> I can't really figure out what to do, any tips?
[06:36] <naught101> (BTW, whe booting fails, I can't even get to a different terminal with ctrl+alt+f2 or what ever - it completely hangs)
[06:37] <naught101> which means I can't try re-installing drivers or anything :(
[06:38] <DaskreecH> naught101: how about rerunning the nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:41] <naught101> DaskreecH: I can't, because I can't log in to the computer... At least, not unless I can run it from a liveUSB (which I currently have booted)
[06:41] <DaskreecH> Sure why not?
[06:41] <DaskreecH> when you open dolphin do you have the hard drive mounted there?
[06:42] <naught101> DaskreecH: well, I mounted it via the commandline
[06:43] <naught101> DaskreecH: I will try downloading nvidia-settings now. I'll get back to you if it doesn't work :)
[06:43] <DaskreecH> naught101: Do you have split partitions?
[06:43] <DaskreecH> like /var or something on a different partition?
[06:43] <naught101> DaskreecH: yep, separate one for /home
[06:43] <DaskreecH> Ok that should be fine
[06:43] <naught101> DaskreecH: no, only /home
[06:43] <DaskreecH> It's mounted under /media right?
[06:44] <DaskreecH> hi ken__
[06:44] <ken__> DaskreecH hi
[06:44] <DaskreecH> Hunny-do ?
[06:44] <naught101> hrm. what package contains nvidia-xconfig? the actual driver?
[06:44] <naught101> DaskreecH: no, I have it mounted at /mnt, because I'm lazy
[06:44] <ken__> LOL
[06:45] <DaskreecH> naught101: Ok cool
[06:45] <DaskreecH> type sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[06:46] <DaskreecH> (assuming that /mnt is the root of where you mounted it
[06:46] <DaskreecH> else it's sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/drive/dev
[06:46] <ken__> DaskreecH: YES!!!! I love apper! it's the one I was used to seeing!!!
[06:46] <DaskreecH> ken__: Whoot :)
[06:46] <naught101> DaskreecH: done
[06:47] <DaskreecH> naught101: type sudo chroot /mnt/drive
[06:47] <DaskreecH> you should now be on your install
[06:47] <naught101> wait, wait. I ACTUALLY have it mounted at /mnt, not /mnt/drive :P... I'll remount
[06:48] <DaskreecH> nvidia-xconfig away
[06:49] <naught101> or should I just do sudo chroot /mnt?
[06:49] <DaskreecH> naught101: I dunno. What have you done now?
[06:49] <naught101> heh, DaskreecH that worked, I think
[06:49] <naught101> sorry for the confusion
[06:50] <naught101> nvidia-xconfig works fine
[06:51] <naught101> DaskreecH: I never thought of doing a chroot before, that's a sweet move. Thanks heaps :)
[06:52] <DaskreecH> Ah UNIX You make things so easy and nice to deal with
[06:52] <naught101> oooooh yeah
[06:53] <naught101> unfortunately, no worky :(. xorg.conf was created, but I still don't boot. I'll log in again on the liveUSB and check the logs
[06:54] <DaskreecH> Where does it hang?
[06:54] <DaskreecH> try taking kdm out of the start up services
[06:57] <naught101> hrm, just a sec
[06:58] <naught101> DaskreecH: which is the best  log to look at to find out where it's hanging?
[06:58] <DaskreecH> dmesg
[07:03] <naught101> I can't see anything in there remotely error like
[07:03] <naught101> chroot also means it's still being written to :/
[07:03]  * naught101 wishes dmesg was timestamped
[07:07] <almoxarife> naught101: it is
[07:07] <naught101> almoxarife: in a readable format
[07:07]  * naught101 is not a computer
[07:07] <almoxarife> naught101: looks like it here,
[07:07] <almoxarife> date and time
[07:08] <naught101> I have things like [18.089704]
[07:09] <almoxarife> naught101: i assume you are using the ksystemlog, i am
[07:09] <naught101> almoxarife: no, I am using bash
[07:10] <almoxarife> naught101: oh, because?
[07:10] <naught101> almoxarife: well, because I prefer it, but also because my computer is stuffed, and kdm won't start
[07:11] <almoxarife> naught101: cool, enjoy yourself
[07:11] <naught101> whi thank you.
[07:11] <naught101> why*
[07:12] <almoxarife> naught101: stuffed?
[07:12] <naught101> almoxarife: read up
[07:12] <naught101> DaskreecH: how do I take kdm out of start-up?
[07:13] <DaskreecH> grep default /etc/inittab
[07:13]  * DaskreecH has no idea if this will work with upstart
[07:14] <naught101> DaskreecH: I have no inittab
[07:14] <DaskreecH> Yeah... upstart
[07:14] <naught101> I guess I could move kdm out of /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:15] <DaskreecH> That should should work
[07:16] <naught101>  will try
[07:16] <DaskreecH> ok
[07:19] <naught101> Seems like kdm isn't what's causing it to hang...
[07:19] <naught101> at least, it's still hanging..
[07:20] <naught101> DaskreecH: one odd thing is that even when it's hanged, and I can't do anything, I can still press the power button, and it'll shut down (cleanly)
[07:21] <DaskreecH> So it's not the kernel hanging then
[07:21] <naught101> I guess not
[07:26] <naught101> I doubt this is helpful, but the last boot message displayed on screen before it hangs is "starting timidity ..."
[07:27] <DaskreecH> Oh god I hate timidity when it does that
[07:27] <DaskreecH> disable it unless you need midi
[07:28] <fayaz> hi
[07:28] <fayaz> i'm seeing a bug in KGpg -> Key Server -> Export
[07:29] <fayaz> no matter which key server i choose, the Information dialog says it uploaded to server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[07:30] <naught101> DaskreecH: well, I will need it, but happy to disable for now. What's the best way?
[07:30] <DaskreecH> move from /etc/init.d ?
[07:31] <naught101> DaskreecH: BTW, after that message, if I press power, the first message (of a few, that I can't read, cause it's too fast), is "exiting acipd" or something
[07:31] <DaskreecH> That's the ACPI power daemon
[07:31] <naught101> DaskreecH: I'm not sure that worked for kdm, but I will try
[07:37] <DaskreecH> naught101: Doubt it reached kdm since timidity stopped it from booting
[07:37] <DaskreecH> fayaz: check in #kubuntu-devel ?
[07:38] <fayaz> okay DaskreecH
[07:39] <naught101> DaskreecH: doesn't seem to have changed anything... I think perhaps timidity was just the last thing that issued a message, not the thing that was hanging..
[07:39] <naught101> DaskreecH: Thanks for the help, I'm gonna go get some food. Maybe I will just try re-installing later
[07:40] <DaskreecH> Well then the next thing in the chain would be suspect but I think it s probably timidity :)
[07:55] <mahmud_> hi everyone\
[07:55] <mahmud_> i want kubuntu
[07:55] <mahmud_> software]
[08:04] <DaskreecH> Ok
[08:04] <DaskreecH> http://www.kubuntu.org
[08:05] <bazhang> he quit
[08:06] <DaskreecH> I saw
[08:20] <osinclair_> anyone on 4.8 and KMail got mail address autocompletion and distribution list sending working?
[08:27] <DaskreecH> Yes but not me
[08:27] <DaskreecH> There was a discussion in it in the kdeforums I think
[08:32] <osinclair_> Daskreech: kdeforums or kubuntuforums?
[08:32] <DaskreecH> I don't remember :-(
[08:35] <osinclair_> will check both, this is MORE than just irrititating
[08:44] <DaskreecH> #kontact as well but they will be sleeping now
[08:52] <osinclair_> DaskreecH: am there to #Kontact but no devs online
[10:01] <bartmon> O, hi
[10:02] <bartmon> I managed to delete the Trash  shortcut in Dolphin's Places. How can I get it back besides purging my dolphin configuration in  ~? Thanks.
[10:08] <bartmon> Ah, must use GoogleFu first next time. If anyone is reading this and wants to know the solution, go here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74052
[10:24] <mehdi> salut
[10:25] <mehdi> salut
[10:37] <DaveWM> quassel DROID isn't too shabby, needs features, but good start.. just sharing, since I figured a lot of people in here may be using it
[10:41] <DaemonFC> Quassel was crap the last time I tried it
[10:41] <DaemonFC> not that it was hard to use or that it was missing features
[10:42] <DaemonFC> it had one thing that drove me back to Konversation, and that was that Quassel has NO way to make it stop logging things and grinding your disk to display backlog that keeps growing, and growing, and growing
[10:43] <DaemonFC> I don't allow chat programs to save logs to my disk, it creates unnecessary I/O and frankly I don't like the idea that anyone that happens to be sitting in front of my computer or who gains access to the hard disk can read every conversation I've ever had with anyone
[10:45] <DaemonFC> I noticed they had some Android version when I was browsing the marketplace, but I ended up going with Andchat just because I don't want to use software from people that didn't think the ability to disable logging in their desktop version was important
[10:49] <DaemonFC> I think the main reason Kubuntu started carrying Quassel in the first place was because (at the time), Konversation wasn't ported to KDE4
[10:49] <DaemonFC> so including it would have meant including Qt 3 and kdelibs3
[10:50] <DaemonFC> that's no longer an issue
[10:50] <DaemonFC> it would be nice if they revisited their decision and put in KDE software instead of software unrelated to KDE that merely happens to use Qt, but it's not a huge deal
[10:51] <DaemonFC> easy enough to purge Quassel just like it is with LibreOffice to get Calligra instead
[10:54] <Riddell> DaemonFC: you are right in your summarisation
[10:54] <Riddell> DaemonFC: but not right to say quassel isn't kde related, it uses kde libs and has kde developers
[10:54] <Riddell> and there has been no pressing reason to change back to konversation so we keep the status quo
[10:54] <soee> guys do you remember app name for works autocomplete where you can define yuor won strings etc ?
[10:55] <soee> *words
[10:56] <Riddell> soee: your grammer is hard to read, you might need to rephrase so people can understand
[10:56] <soee> Riddell, sorry wans't looking at keyboard when writing
[10:57] <DaemonFC> Riddell: I had a pressing need, grinding hard drive and lag when switching tabs so it can fill the screen with the backlog are not desirable to me
[10:57] <DaemonFC> does is still do that?
[10:57] <soee> Riddell, there is some app where you can define some texts and if you type in editor lets say first 4 letters of this text, full text fill show up
[10:58] <Riddell> DaemonFC: I'm afraid I don't know
[10:58] <Riddell> soee: bash-completion for clever things in bash, otherwise I don't know
[10:59] <soee> Riddell, no thats not it :/
[11:06] <soee> omg got it
[11:06] <soee> Riddell, i wast thinking about AutoKey
[11:06] <soee> *was
[12:18] <cobra-the-joker> KDE 4.8 available on kubuntu now ?
[12:18] <Tm_T> cobra-the-joker: yes, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.0
[12:19] <Tm_T> its mentioned in the channel topic btw (:
[12:24] <JuJuBee> I have been using kubuntu for a few years now.  I want to set up a new server.  Am I correct that there is no such thing as kubuntu-server version?  That without a GUI it is simply ubuntu?
[12:24] <Tm_T> JuJuBee: yup, that's right
[12:24] <Tm_T> ubuntu is kubuntu, and the other way around
[12:50] <K350_> what's the name of KDE4 window decorator and how to change to it?
[12:52] <K350_> google.se
[13:01] <James1479> K350_: I think the default one is Aurorae, alternitive ones are bespin and qt-curve (all can be themed)
[13:05] <James1479> K350_: system settings > worksace appearance > window decorations... to switch between them and their themes
[13:21] <K350_> James1479: Ah, thanks a lot, really appruciated :)
[13:22] <K350_> James1479: After I upgraded to kubuntu 11.10 gtk apps no longer have the KDE color theme they used to have in 11.04. . Any idea how to make gtk apps have the same colors as my KDE apps?
[13:28] <K350_> what's the name of kubuntus default windowsmannager?
[13:28] <K350_> and where the configuration application?
[13:30] <Tm_T> K350_: kwin
[13:30] <James1479> K350_: kwin is the window manager and its configs are at ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc  ... though most options can be set in various places in system settings
[13:35] <silv3r_m00n> is there something available for kde desktop that can give me a reminder with a popup then go away ?
[13:37] <Kalidarn> silv3r_m00n: korganizer?
[13:37] <K350_> James1479: I'm visually handicapped. So I need a zoom and the ability to - sometimes - cahnge to negative.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:38] <Tm_T> K350_: you need effects, run "kcmshell4 kwincompositing"
[13:39] <silv3r_m00n> Kalidarn: I need something simple like a simple message alert every 15 minutes with a popup that stays for 2 seconds and then goes away automatically
[13:39] <James1479> K350_: there is a zoom effect that zooms the entire desktop in desktop effects (I think tis enabled by default and uses the keys "meta+=  meta+-   and meta+0" where meta is the windows key on a windows keyboard
[13:40] <K350_> James1479: Exelent! So then it's just the 'negative' thing missing. Any idea?
[13:42] <James1479> K350_: there is also an invert desktop effect... needs to be enabled > system settings > desktop effects > all effects... as well as other accessibility effects
[13:44] <K350_> Great! I'l remove compiz and see if I cna get these things to work. I really appruciate your help. REally! :)
[13:45] <K350_> oh, wait. I've compiz as defautl windowmannager. Wen I wen tback to change there's no kwin in the list. How do I change to KDE4 defautl window mannager?
[13:46] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: you can always run this: "while sleep 900 ; do ; kdialog --passivepopup "Message" 2 ; done"
[13:47] <James1479> will give you a popup with "Message" every 15 mins for 2 secs
[13:48] <James1479> K350_: fist check kwin is working by running "kwin --replace"
[13:48] <silv3r_m00n> James1479: let me try that
[13:48] <silv3r_m00n> James1479: I ran that in terminal but says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[13:48] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: o one sec :)
[13:49] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: while sleep 10 ; do kdialog --passivepopup "Hello" 2 ; done
[13:49]  * James1479 forgot that zsh has a SLIGHTLY different syntax
[13:49] <silv3r_m00n> amazing
[13:49] <James1479> ^^ replace 10 with the number of seconds (900 for 15 mins)
[13:50] <James1479> ctrl+c to stop it
[13:50] <silv3r_m00n> thanks for that
[13:51] <silv3r_m00n> the dialog doesn't go out in 2 seconds
[13:52] <silv3r_m00n> its staying longer
[13:52] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: why kde version?
[13:52] <James1479> what ^^
[13:52] <silv3r_m00n> 11.04 kubuntu
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> ok that's fine
[13:53] <James1479> kde, not kubuntu :) but by your answer I assume 4.7.X (to find out run kde4-config --version or go to any kde app > help > about kde)
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> not an issue4.6.5
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> KDE Development Platform: 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
[13:53] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: I am on kde 4.8 now, but remember a bug where the timeout didnt work on a previous version... it was possibally fixed in 4.8
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> qt 4.7.2
[13:54] <James1479> silv3r_m00n: ^^ or even 4.7 :)
[13:54] <James1479> (but either way, its a bug fixed in a later version... not sure if there is anyhting you can do to fix it but upgrade)
[13:54] <silv3r_m00n> that's not much buggy for me , 2seconds is fine
[13:56] <K350_> James1479: Let me try.......
[13:57] <K350_> James1479:  hm . looks like it does work. But now I can't change /swich between my workspaces..uhm
[13:58] <James1479> K350_: what are you pressing to switch between them?
[14:12] <Linkmaster> im wanting to turn a folder into an .iso file, and i found this link amongst my searching..is this a good link or, is it overly complicated? http://www.walkernews.net/2011/01/08/how-to-convert-folder-to-iso-cd-image-on-linux/
[14:18] <James1479> Linkmaster: k3b sould beable to write a .iso
[14:19] <James1479> ^^ you can add files/folders to a project, select to burn but check the "write iso image" option instead of actually buring an image
[14:19] <Linkmaster> oh, really?
[14:20] <James1479> Linkmaster: last time I check... which was a while ago
[14:20] <Linkmaster> James1479: now i like K3b even more now, i didn't know it could do that
[14:20] <Linkmaster> lemme look at it
[14:21] <James1479> Linkmaster: I do remember it being an option when you go to burn a disk... a little counter intuative but there ^^
[14:21] <Linkmaster> this is on my netbook, so i dont have an optical drive
[14:22] <James1479> Linkmaster: non of my computers have a working/pluged in optical drive anymore :D
[14:22] <James1479> ... only my serve actually has the drive, but I dont have it pluged in anymore...
[14:22] <Linkmaster> hahah, that sounds like a problem in of itself xD but im looking around, im not seeing anything right in front of me, ill look a little deeper however
[14:25] <Linkmaster> okay..i have it set up, i see where it is writing an .iso file (/tmp/kde-joshua/winblows.iso), but it wont let me change the source
[14:28] <James1479> Linkmaster: in k3b create a project > add files > click "burn" > on the writing tab check "only create image"  > on image tab change location to write to... (this is on kde 4.8)
[14:29] <Linkmaster> i see!
[14:30] <K350_> James1479: I'm using arrow keys. Is there no wy to use arrow keyes to chnge desktop in kwin?
[14:30] <Linkmaster> im on kde 4.8 too, beautiful (:
[14:30] <James1479> ^^ there is probally a different approce if you want to turn a disk into an iso... though I think "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/FILE.iso"  should be enough
[14:30] <Linkmaster> K350_: you can change keybindings, you talking about gnomes "alt+ctrl+arrowkey" thing?
[14:30] <James1479> K350_: need to set up a shortcut... not sure why there isnt a key attached by default
[14:30] <K350_> James1479: --> also I changed the way you said by typign kwin --replace. Will it stay that way when I reboot?
[14:31] <James1479> K350_: ctrl+f# is the other way
[14:31] <James1479> K350_: unlikly...
[14:31] <James1479> that just confirms kwin is working
[14:31] <James1479>  /installed
[14:32] <K350_> James1479: I guess you set upt the shortcut in the desktop effects. But I dont' kmnow what effect it is that I've to edit
[14:32] <James1479> K350_: no, in global shortcuts
[14:32] <K350_> James1479: Aha, where're the global shortcuts?
[14:33] <Linkmaster> K350_: system settings, gestures and shortcuts. it should be there
[14:33] <James1479> system settings > shortcuts and gestures > global shortcuts
[14:33] <K350_> James1479: Aaah, let me see :)
[14:39] <Linkmaster> James1479: its almost done, though this should be what i was looking for, thanks!
[14:40] <K350_> James1479: what am I looking for in globas?
[14:41] <James1479> K350_: kwin compoent, then "switch deskop [left/right/up/down]"
[14:42] <K350_> James1479: ah...Looking
[14:44] <DskreecH> esktop switching?
[14:50] <simendsjo_> Hi. User with European keyboard here.. Seems kubuntu/kde doesn't map Ctrl-Alt to AltGr. Any way around this? http://superuser.com/questions/384334/using-ctrl-alt-for-altgr
[14:52] <DskreecH> http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/06/getting-right-alt-key-alt-gr-to-work-in.html
[14:53] <Pici> 5/60
[14:56] <simendsjo_> DskreecH: Doesn't help by a long shot. Setting this option makes even AltGr not work for 3rd level keys.
[14:56] <K350_> James1479: Great, now the shortcuts work. But when I change workspace, it's moves pretty slow
[14:56] <DskreecH> simendsjo_: Ah well That's what I came up with
[14:59] <simendsjo_> DskreecH: Thanks anyway. I've tried a lot of combinations here, and only found a couple of semi-acceptable combinations, but that would make it very hard for me to switch between windows and linux. I just want ctrl-alt to work like altgr :) What are other europeans doing? Sucking it up and breaking their wrists - it's mostly a problem with bracket based languages like c
[14:59] <K350_> James1479: rebooting
[15:00] <DskreecH> simendsjo_: Not sure i would suspect that #ubuntu-devel might have an answer
[15:00] <DskreecH> I would presume it's a trick of getting x to see two modifers without any other modification as a new key which I don't know is possible
[15:03] <simendsjo_> DskreecH: I bet someone has found a solution for this ages ago. Pressing {} (on keys 7 and 0) and [] (on keys 8 and 9) is impossible to do without bending the wrist, and it's keys you press a lot :)
[15:04] <DskreecH> I would suspect the lazy way to get around that is reassign those keys with keys you don't press alot :)
[15:07] <SunTsu> simendsjo_: IIRC that's one of the reasons the dvorak layout was invented
[15:08] <simendsjo_> SunTsu: I'm using dvorak
[15:10] <simendsjo_> DskreecH: Using left alt as AltGr and right AltGr as just Alt is the best I can do. I just need to get used to the new layout - and it makes the switch back and forth to windows bit of a pain
[15:10] <SunTsu> simendsjo_: and still? too bad
[15:11] <HFSPLUS> ....................../´¯/)
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[15:11] <HFSPLUS> .................../..../
[15:11] <FloodBotK3> HFSPLUS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <LjL> !ops | HFSPLUS
[15:11] <simendsjo_> SunTsu: It's the same layout for 3rd level keys unless I change to programmers dvorak. But doing that would change a lot of keys, and I'd miss some characters like æøå - which means I'd have to change back and forth between different dvorak layouts
[15:12] <simendsjo_> So not an ideal situation at all
[15:16] <K350> jayne: Now everything works better! :)
[15:17] <K350> jayne: --> but all my gtk apps now have their own color theme not KDE's as they'd before. It's a big problem for me to see anyhting. How can I fix this?
[15:27] <itsatarp> can anyone help with me wit a broken package issue?
[15:27] <WhitePelican> I just downloaded kubuntu 11.10. How do I get kde 4,8?
[15:27] <WhitePelican> er 4.8
[15:28] <DskreecH> WhitePelican: Look at http://www.kubuntu.org
[15:28] <WhitePelican> ty :)
[15:29] <WhitePelican> see you guys later
[15:29] <WhitePelican> wiah me luck that I don't sear my disk hehe
[15:29] <WhitePelican> wish*
[15:29] <itsatarp> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-cups/python-cups_1.9.59-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[15:29] <itsatarp> cant seem to overcome this hump
[15:29] <DskreecH> use a different server?
[15:30] <itsatarp> how would I go about doing that?
[15:35] <EvilResistance> itsatarp, in the sources.list, use a different mirror for the archive.
[15:42] <itsatarp> got it, thanks much EvilResistance
[15:50] <em> Hey the other day when I would click on the K-menu in the lower left hand corner it would give me a stylish menu. Now it is a normal menu like you might have had in Windows 98. Any ideas what happened or how to get back the stylish menu?
[15:53] <em> i fixed it. somehow the 'application launcher' got replaced with a normal menu and they have the same icon
[15:54] <BluesKaj> em,  , classic menu ?
[15:59] <em> BluesKaj: yeah I think it got replaced with the classic menu. The icons look the same.
[16:24] <reservado_> hi, i was trying to install a broadcom wireless (finally installed driver) but now system informs that the card is disabled by software (any one can help me to turn it on??)
[16:25] <alexandre_> ola
[16:27] <reservado_> hello
[16:28] <reservado_> system informs that the card is disabled by software (any one can help me to turn it on??)
[16:33] <reservado_> hi
[16:33] <reservado_> some one here???
[16:33] <Riddell> reservado_: try #ubuntu is you can't get help here, or a mailing list or forum
[16:34] <reservado_> ok
[16:36] <fabio__> alguem ai pra bater um papo
[16:54] <luciano_> hi there!
[17:24] <DarthFrog> Bot wars!
[17:37] <cba123> I just installed a fresh Kubuntu on a new machine I built.  For some reason I can't get over 2-3mbps, but with the same hardware dualbooting to Windows, I get 12mbps.  I can't find anything specific driver wise, anyone have any suggestions?
[17:42] <K350> how to add a repo from the terminal. It's somekind of ppa thingy
[17:42] <aanti> why are most apps in kde so slow ? amarok, dolphin, etc
[17:42] <EvilResistance> K350, add-apt-repository ppa:blah/foo ?
[17:42] <aanti> qt and nvidia doesnt work together well ?
[17:42] <K350> EvilResistance: Thanks a lot! :-)
[17:42] <EvilResistance> aanti, they work quite well together
[17:42] <aanti> EvilResistance: why is everything so sluggish then ?
[17:42]  * EvilResistance uses them quite well together without sluggishness
[17:43] <EvilResistance> i dont know, did you happen to assume its just your system?
[17:43] <aanti> ?
[17:43] <K350> c/c
[17:43] <EvilResistance> runs pretty quickly on mine
[17:43] <aanti> what could be wrong on my side then ?
[17:43]  * EvilResistance points at the 2x4core Xeon processor in the system running Kubuntu :P
[17:43] <aanti> Sysinfo for 'blackbox': Linux 3.2.0-12-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.97 (4.8 RC2 (4.7.97), CPU: AMDAthlonIIX4640 at 800 MHz (5999 bogomips), HD: 547/784GB, RAM: 7562/7986MB, 171 proc's, 1.18h up
[17:44] <cba123> Same here, programs are fast, short of my network issue that I'm trying to hammer out.
[17:44] <aanti> nvidia 460 gtx using 285.05.09 drivers
[17:45] <cba123> could always be settings, drive speed
[17:45] <aanti> for example if i sort a huge list of files in dolphin its SLOW or if i change column size of amaroks playlist
[17:45] <aanti> its a crucial m4 ssd
[17:45] <aanti> doest get much faster ..
[17:45] <cba123> Filesystem?
[17:45] <aanti> ext4
[17:46] <aanti> its UI operations that are slow
[17:46] <cba123> Ok, could still be misconfigured settings.  I have the same ssd
[17:46] <cba123> and I'm running fine
[17:46] <aanti> are you serious
[17:46] <cba123> Yes
[17:46] <aanti> this has nothing to do with filesystem
[17:46] <aanti> UUID=3b2f066e-d389-48b1-bd8c-dd6ad3acbdde /home           ext4    noatime,discard,$
[17:47] <aanti> there mount options
[17:47] <cba123> Intel though, and I'm saying it could be your customizations.  File system is something you could have different than others here, so it's possible.
[17:47] <aanti> how can be a slowdown in resizing an ui element be caused by a fs
[17:48] <cba123> Where does Amarok live?  On a fulesystem?
[17:48] <cba123> filesystem*
[17:48] <aanti> lol
[17:48] <aanti> bb
[18:03] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[18:49] <antoinev> hello, since the previous Xorg update, transparency is no longer working on my computer
[18:49] <antoinev> is there any known bug/fix?
[19:24] <VAGNER-poutsini> has anyone noticed HEAT INCREASE on the CPU after installing KDE 4.8?
[19:27] <VAGNER-poutsini> noone?
[19:27] <VAGNER-poutsini> or noone listens?
[19:29] <Lynoure> hmm?
[19:47] <datruth> I have synapitiks installed to disable my touchpad when I have a mouse plugged in how can I disable the keys ctrl + c from enabling and disabling the touch pad?
[20:40] <viranch> i'm using kubuntu 11.10, why do i have to add backport ppa repository for kde 4.8? is it going to be available in main archive?
[20:41] <datruth> How does one disable the touchpad?
[20:49] <Kottizen> hi, is there any way to debug KMail? I can't send messages, but it doesn't tell me why
[20:50] <Kottizen> they are just stuck in the local folders
[20:57] <meNtha> Kottizen
[20:57] <meNtha> debug progress
[20:57] <meNtha> install Thunderbird :d
[20:57] <Kottizen> no thanks
[20:57] <meNtha> mmkayû
[21:46] <MaxHR> Hello, looking for a download manager recommendation... hopefully one that has the option to add mirrors and download bits from all at once for higher speed
[22:03] <zzezzz> hello, i have access to a computer through teamviewer, how can i hear the sound produced over there?
[22:08] <zzezzz> how can i redirect audio output to input so that i can send my speaker sounds through a skype call? i'm using kubuntu 11.10
[22:17] <jovin> anyone can tell me where i have to look for the source code of the music title plasma widget?
[22:38] <Guest32780> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me finish an opera install...
[22:38] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[22:43] <Guest32780> I tried to install opera from opera's site but a message said that there is an older version in the software channels and would not install the version that I downloaded. Im' not sure which channals it is talking about because I have not been able to find opera in muon  anyone?
[22:43] <Guest32780> i'm new to Linux
[22:46] <asfyxia> Guest32780, when you open de kickoff launcher (left under, the 'K', you can type above in the open field the name 'Opera'. When nothing shows up, it's not there. There is no Opera in the standard software, afaik (suppose you are running Kubuntu 11.10)
[22:49] <Guest32780> yes I am running (as you say) Kubuntu 11.10  So how do I install it then?
[22:52] <asfyxia> You have to download the latest Opera from their site for Linux, that's a .deb-file I remember. You'll find it in your home map, or where you define to put downloads. From there, you can install it with Ark, and you should find it then under 'Internet'.
[22:58] <asfyxia> Guest32780, I have to go while it's midnight here, success (I managed to install it too, and I'm not exactly a whiz kid), and when you run into something strange I hope there will be others to give you a hand ;-)
[22:58] <Guest32780> ok thanks! i'm working at at
[23:01] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[23:13] <Guest32780> ok, I used Ark to Extract the opera files...now what do I do with them at this point?
[23:22] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[23:24] <Guest32780> hello?
[23:28] <tomk_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Xg_C2YmG0
[23:28] <tomk_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Xg_C2YmG0
[23:46] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit