| StevenK | lifeless: So is 'irony' just a metal to you? :-P | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| lifeless | I think the boron sell it? | 00:09 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Hm | 00:29 |
| wgrant | I think we can speed up the test suite significantly by completely disabling the lazr.restful representation cache. | 00:30 |
| wgrant | We don't read from it, but we still invalidate it on every object flush. | 00:30 |
| wgrant | Saves 25% on makePerson. | 00:30 |
| lifeless | bug 780835 | 00:31 |
| _mup_ | Bug #780835: representation cache a pessimization <easy> <performance> <tech-debt> <lazr.restful:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/780835 > | 00:31 |
| wgrant | Sure, but it doesn't say that even when disabled (which is everywhere) it still hurts writes. | 00:32 |
| lifeless | wgrant: feel free to add that (or just rip the cache out) | 00:32 |
| wgrant | I'm just going to rip it out, since reading from config there is probably too slow. | 00:33 |
| wgrant | lazr.config is pretty awful. | 00:33 |
| wgrant | (seriously, just profiled) | 00:34 |
| wgrant | That saves 40% now, both in and outside the profiler. | 00:37 |
| lifeless | o/ | 00:40 |
| wgrant | Our Storm tracers are slowish too, but not so bad | 00:40 |
| lifeless | they need to be replaced | 00:40 |
| lifeless | there is a cleaner version in storm trunk | 00:40 |
| lifeless | I context switched at the wrong point | 00:40 |
| wgrant | Ah | 00:41 |
| wgrant | Timeout checking goes through lazr.config | 00:41 |
| wgrant | Oops | 00:42 |
| lifeless | only until its overridden by the feature flag IIRC? | 00:42 |
| * StevenK goes next door to relocate a lawn mower ... | 00:42 | |
| wgrant | lifeless: Ah, true, so it only happens in the test suite I guess. | 00:43 |
| StevenK | wallyworld__: How is the SSD? | 00:44 |
| wallyworld__ | StevenK: not sure yet. i downloaded a precise iso and am yet to install it | 00:45 |
| lifeless | wgrant: check the implementation if you like | 00:45 |
| wallyworld__ | gotta decide if swap should live on the sdd r not. opinion? | 00:45 |
| lifeless | wallyworld__: swap? what swap. | 00:45 |
| wgrant | s/ should live on the sdd r not// | 00:46 |
| wallyworld__ | lifeless: guess you have lots of ram? | 00:46 |
| lifeless | wallyworld__: 8GB on my laptop, 16GB on my desktop. | 00:46 |
| wallyworld__ | i have 4BB | 00:46 |
| wallyworld__ | GB | 00:46 |
| lifeless | wallyworld__: should be able to do quite a lot w/out swap | 00:46 |
| wgrant | Oh, right, and you run LP on amd64. | 00:46 |
| StevenK | I have swap on the SSD, but that was so I could hibernate. Which doesn't actually work anyway, so I could kill it. | 00:46 |
| wallyworld__ | yeah, i do run lp on amd64. it's not too bad | 00:47 |
| wallyworld__ | fsvo too | 00:47 |
| lifeless | I have 1GB swap just-in-case | 00:47 |
| lifeless | Swap: 1050616k total, 0k used, | 00:47 |
| wallyworld__ | i'm afriaid if a put it on the ssd it will kill the ssd | 00:47 |
| wallyworld__ | well, shorted it's life | 00:48 |
| wallyworld__ | significantly | 00:48 |
| lifeless | only if you use it | 00:48 |
| lifeless | what SSD did you get? | 00:48 |
| * StevenK peers at jenkins | 00:48 | |
| wallyworld__ | crucial M4 | 00:49 |
| wallyworld__ | $180 on amazon | 00:49 |
| wallyworld__ | 128GB | 00:49 |
| wallyworld__ | yeah, and i will be using swap, so best to leave on the hdd i guess | 00:49 |
| lifeless | if you're using swap, andhave an hdd available, definitely put it on the hdd | 00:50 |
| lifeless | also | 00:50 |
| lifeless | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Crucial-m4-Firmware-BSOD,14544.html | 00:50 |
| * wallyworld__ looks | 00:50 | |
| wallyworld__ | lifeless: yeah, saw that issue. i think the drives shipping recently already have the updated f/w but need to check that. | 00:51 |
| lifeless | wallyworld__: anyhow, I don't know the crucial arch; the intel one its fine to run swap on - they have (IIRC) 30% slack space to wear level across | 00:57 |
| wallyworld__ | ok. thanks for the info. i'll do some research :-) | 00:58 |
| lifeless | but that said, IMO when you hit swap you've already lost | 00:59 |
| StevenK | 2.6 and 3.x are swappyish kernels anyway. They will try *really* hard to swap out at least a little bit if they can. | 01:00 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I beg to differ :) | 01:00 |
| lifeless | uptime | 01:00 |
| lifeless | 14:00:30 up 9 days, 18:34, 6 users, load average: 0.05, 0.12, 0.10 | 01:00 |
| lifeless | uname -a | 01:00 |
| lifeless | Linux lifeless-64 3.2.0-8-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 11 13:57:44 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 01:00 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Where a little bit is like a few pages | 01:00 |
| lifeless | Swap: 1050616k total, 0k used | 01:01 |
| lifeless | StevenK: yes, I got that; but I don't /see/ it :) | 01:01 |
| StevenK | steven@liquified:/media/ECD5-838E/tv% free | tail -n 1 | 01:01 |
| StevenK | Swap: 3903484 5184 3898300 | 01:01 |
| lifeless | free | tail -n 1 | 01:02 |
| lifeless | Swap: 1050616 0 1050616 | 01:02 |
| wallyworld__ | wow, a geek dick measuring contest | 01:02 |
| thumper | someone said dick? | 01:02 |
| wallyworld__ | "my swap is smaller than yours" | 01:02 |
| lifeless | anyhow, a few pages won't break an ssd under any circumstances | 01:02 |
| StevenK | No, I think lifeless just doesn't believe me | 01:02 |
| wallyworld__ | thumper: yes, of course it was me | 01:02 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I accept you have a few pages swapped out | 01:02 |
| thumper | hi wallyworld__ | 01:02 |
| wallyworld__ | g'day thumper. you make it home ok? | 01:03 |
| lifeless | StevenK: its had 9 days to find such a page for my laptop, and hasn't. | 01:03 |
| wallyworld__ | we had a "small" delay | 01:03 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: eventually | 01:03 |
| wallyworld__ | you delayed too? | 01:03 |
| wallyworld__ | how was the opera? | 01:03 |
| wallyworld__ | wgrant: that reminds me, i got a $300 Qantas voucher because of the delay. did you get one? | 01:05 |
| StevenK | I did | 01:05 |
| wallyworld__ | StevenK: oh yeah, forgot you were delayed | 01:05 |
| StevenK | NFI what the heck I'm going to do with it | 01:05 |
| wallyworld__ | come to brisbane :-) | 01:05 |
| StevenK | Perhaps my wife and I will visit her family in Adelaide again | 01:06 |
| lifeless | StevenK: adelaide?! | 01:06 |
| wallyworld__ | it says it's not transferable :-( | 01:06 |
| wallyworld__ | so i don't think you can split it up or share it with anyone else | 01:06 |
| StevenK | wallyworld__: I was planning on buying 2 return seats. They shouldn't have a problem with that. I hope. | 01:07 |
| wallyworld__ | hope not. if you do, let me know how it goes | 01:07 |
| StevenK | lifeless: And? | 01:07 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I thought they were sydney-folk | 01:08 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Sarah and her family are all from Adelaide. | 01:09 |
| StevenK | wallyworld__: Bloody hell. $275 to fly to ADL on Qantas. One way. | 01:09 |
| wallyworld__ | wow | 01:09 |
| wallyworld__ | bit of a rip off | 01:10 |
| StevenK | A bit, you say? | 01:10 |
| StevenK | That's like calling a fish 'a bit wet'. | 01:10 |
| StevenK | Or $380, if I choose to go via Melbourne. | 01:11 |
| StevenK | May as well send me via Perth | 01:11 |
| lifeless | StevenK: interesting! I wonder why I thought she was from Sydney | 01:11 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: the opera as a little surprising | 01:12 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: I was jet-lagged, and the opera theatre was warm and dark | 01:12 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: the normal naps and snaps occurred | 01:12 |
| wallyworld__ | oh no, you fell asleep | 01:12 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: I feel sorry for the people behind us | 01:12 |
| wallyworld__ | hah | 01:12 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: not fully asleep, just nodded off a few times | 01:13 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: I wasn't the only one though | 01:13 |
| wallyworld__ | it's the head snaps that give it away :-) | 01:13 |
| StevenK | I can recall doing that in dark lecture halls when I was at uni ... | 01:13 |
| thumper | wallyworld__: I found the opera was better after half time when I read the storyline someone had printed out from wikipeadia and stopped trying to read the subtitles | 01:13 |
| wallyworld__ | lol | 01:13 |
| wallyworld__ | and how were the meetings? everything sorted out? | 01:14 |
| wgrant | wallyworld__: I did too | 01:16 |
| wallyworld__ | too bad $300 doesn't get very far on Qantas | 01:18 |
| lifeless | it gets you on the plane | 01:19 |
| wgrant | Sometimes. | 01:19 |
| StevenK | Haha | 01:24 |
| StevenK | Sigh. Can we kill polls yet? | 01:26 |
| wgrant | Now I wonder what could have triggered that? :) | 01:27 |
| StevenK | I wonder. :-P | 01:27 |
| wallyworld__ | what happened with polls? | 01:31 |
| StevenK | wgrant: I have to admit, I'm a little worried adding combobuild into build. | 03:13 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Check the qastaging, staging and production build scripts. If they don't use build, you're safe enough. | 03:15 |
| wgrant | (enough) | 03:16 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Ah, but where the scripts? | 03:16 |
| wgrant | StevenK: staging_restore.sh is in lp:lp-staging-scripts | 03:20 |
| wgrant | qastaging-update.sh is elusive | 03:21 |
| wgrant | And an old version of the production deploymgr config is in carob:~wgrant/dpm-lp-configs | 03:21 |
| * StevenK stabs SSO, and then twists the knife. | 03:22 | |
| wgrant | connection resets? | 03:22 |
| StevenK | ssh launchpad@asuka "make -C /srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad-new build LPCONFIG=staging" >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 | 03:23 |
| StevenK | No build for me | 03:23 |
| wgrant | Ah, but that's asuka. | 03:23 |
| wgrant | Exactly where you want it. | 03:24 |
| StevenK | It does it on gandwana too | 03:24 |
| wgrant | That's probably because it was copied from asuka; not because it's necessary. | 03:24 |
| wgrant | build: compile apidoc jsbuild css_combine sprite_image | 03:24 |
| wgrant | The only thing gandwana needs from that is compile. | 03:24 |
| StevenK | Right, so I want to branch this and set a CONVOY_ROOT | 03:26 |
| wgrant | Probably | 03:26 |
| wgrant | You also need to obtain qastaging-update.sh | 03:26 |
| wgrant | And possibly a more recent deploymgr config from prasé c/o spm | 03:26 |
| nigelb | Mornin' | 03:30 |
| StevenK | wallyworld_: You don't show up in mumble as 'harshal-sengar' any more, right? | 03:49 |
| wallyworld_ | StevenK: not that i'm aware of | 03:50 |
| StevenK | wallyworld_: You have an open RT (#43809) about that issue, you could ask IS to close it. | 03:50 |
| _mup_ | Bug #43809: missing manpage for wcsftime <manpages-posix (Ubuntu):Invalid> <manpages (Debian):Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/43809 > | 03:50 |
| wallyworld_ | ok | 03:50 |
| wgrant | wallyworld_: Can't you just use an 'LP' namespace or something? | 05:13 |
| wgrant | Or is that too global for deryck/rick_h's liking? | 05:14 |
| wallyworld_ | tried something like that, doesn't work across instances | 05:14 |
| wgrant | Just for the event. | 05:14 |
| wgrant | :( | 05:14 |
| wallyworld_ | atm, i'm devoid of ideas | 05:14 |
| * wallyworld_ goes to get the kid from school and transfer rego on "new" car. old faithful blue one finally died :-( | 05:18 | |
| wgrant | :( | 05:50 |
| wgrant | Removing the representationcache may only have saved 5-10 minutes :( | 05:50 |
| StevenK | It's still a plus | 05:50 |
| wgrant | wallyworld_: Is bug #923973 the event issue? | 05:59 |
| _mup_ | Bug #923973: sync page is broken <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/923973 > | 05:59 |
| wallyworld_ | i didn't raise that one, let me look | 05:59 |
| wgrant | I assume the AJAX log and MP longpoll breakage is also that. | 05:59 |
| wgrant | But those two are less important, as they only affect us. | 05:59 |
| wallyworld_ | wgrant: i'm not familiar with that bit of code. i raised bug 923619 to cover cases like editing a recipe, editing a blueprint, changing a branch name | 06:00 |
| _mup_ | Bug #923619: client model changed events broken <regression> <ui> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by wallyworld> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/923619 > | 06:00 |
| wgrant | wallyworld_: I imagine they'll need separate fixes. | 06:01 |
| wallyworld_ | i don't know if the breakage in the bug you posted uses the cahce model events or not | 06:01 |
| wallyworld_ | or what meachanism is used, but sounds similar to what we're seeing elsewhere | 06:01 |
| wgrant | It doesn't use those, no. | 06:02 |
| wallyworld_ | but if it does use Y.fire in some way, shape or form it most likely is now broken | 06:02 |
| wallyworld_ | just a guess | 06:03 |
| wgrant | That was my assumption. | 06:03 |
| wallyworld_ | it depends on if separate yui() instances are used | 06:04 |
| wallyworld_ | but if there's a few breakages like this, we need to get this fixed asap | 06:05 |
| wallyworld_ | and two of the current maintenance squad were involved in the yui work at the epic, so they are well placed to look at this | 06:06 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:56 |
| danhg_ | #launchpad-kitchen | 09:42 |
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| StevenK | AttributeError: 'TestPullerMasterIntegration' object has no attribute '_lock_actions' | 11:42 |
| StevenK | I thought bzr 2.5 fixed that from happening? :-( | 11:42 |
| jelmer | StevenK: I think it's mostly got to do with hook installation | 11:44 |
| jml | I just edited a milestone inline on a bug page and the new impage where the edit icon should be was a 404 | 11:52 |
| jml | with this URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/testtools/+bug/881052/undefined | 11:52 |
| _mup_ | Bug #881052: assertRaises gives error about a lambda <regression> <testtools:Fix Committed by jml> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/881052 > | 11:52 |
| rick_h | bah, missed him | 12:30 |
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| deryck | abentley, adeuring, rick_h -- standup in 5 cool? | 14:41 |
| rick_h | deryck: k | 14:42 |
| adeuring | deryck: fine for me | 14:42 |
| abentley | deryck: sure | 14:42 |
| deryck | rick_h, adeuring, abentley -- having issues connecting to mumble for some reason. | 14:47 |
| abentley | deryck: same here. | 14:47 |
| deryck | rick_h, adeuring -- did you guys get in? We may need Skype for abentley and I. | 14:48 |
| rick_h | yea, we're both in | 14:48 |
| adeuring | deryck: yes | 14:48 |
| deryck | hmmm, yeah, I can't get in. Doesn't like my password. | 14:49 |
| deryck | I got in. | 14:50 |
| deryck | adeuring, rick_h, abentley ^^ | 14:50 |
| rick_h | heh, adeuring and I jumped out. adeuring went looking for a machine with skype installed | 14:50 |
| deryck | and abentley just got in! | 14:50 |
| rick_h | ok, back to mumble! | 14:50 |
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| salgado | mrevell, are we supposed to have a call in 10 minutes? I didn't get any invites for it | 15:51 |
| salgado | my calendar just warned me but I didn't see any invites before this | 15:52 |
| mrevell | Hey salgado, yeah I sent an invite. Is that okay with you or do you want to reschedule? | 15:53 |
| salgado | mrevell, it'd be nice to have mabac and danilos as well. let's see what danilos thinks | 15:53 |
| salgado | danilos, ^ | 15:54 |
| mrevell | Okay, great. | 15:54 |
| salgado | mrevell, did you send the invite to them as well or just me? | 15:55 |
| mrevell | salgado, only you | 15:55 |
| danilos | salgado, mrevell knows me all to well to want to talk to me | 15:56 |
| mrevell | :) | 15:56 |
| salgado | I know, but I thought you'd like to talk to him ;) | 15:56 |
| salgado | danilos, so, if you don't want to join I think I'll do it now and fill mabac later | 15:58 |
| danilos | salgado, mrevell: I'd be happy to join in, mumble on canonical server? | 15:59 |
| mrevell | Sure or Google Hangout | 15:59 |
| salgado | ok, I'll be back in 1 minute | 16:00 |
| danilos | mrevell, salgado: let's do mumble, I am not yet comfortable enough with hanging... out | 16:00 |
| danilos | mrevell, can you hear me? | 16:01 |
| mrevell | I hear you | 16:02 |
| mrevell | I'm having some trouble with the mic | 16:02 |
| mrevell | yes | 16:02 |
| salgado | unmute me! | 16:04 |
| danilos | salgado, can't you unmute yourself? | 16:04 |
| salgado | mrevell, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-status-website/+spec/individual-engineer-upcoming-work-view-mockup | 16:18 |
| jml | lifeless: do you have a tabular schema for subunit data anywhere? | 16:27 |
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| lifeless | jml: maybe? | 17:47 |
| jml | lifeless: thinking of writing a subunit -> csv filter to make data analysis easier. | 17:48 |
| lifeless | ah | 17:48 |
| jml | lifeless: want to try to stop me? | 17:48 |
| lifeless | not at all | 17:48 |
| jml | :) | 17:48 |
| lifeless | subunit is streaming after all; so either casting it to a static form, or using a streaming language -> either make a lot of sense | 17:48 |
| lifeless | the lp results tracker may have some inspiration, as may the linaro thingy | 17:49 |
| jml | thinking id,start_time,stop_time,status for now | 17:49 |
| jml | lifeless: do you know where I can find those? | 17:49 |
| lifeless | somewhere on LP? lp:launchpad-results is one | 17:52 |
| * bigjools waves at lifeless the insomniac | 17:55 | |
| lifeless | o/ | 17:56 |
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| deryck | wallyworld_, you around? | 20:15 |
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| * deryck needs to get away from the screen, back soon | 20:25 | |
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| wallyworld_ | deryck[lunch]: hi, ping me when you get back from lunch. i have to drop the kid at school soon, won't be long | 20:54 |
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| deryck | wallyworld_, back when you are. | 21:08 |
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| wallyworld_ | deryck: give me 25 minutes. i'm just leaving to drop the kid to school, be back as soon as i can | 21:11 |
| mhall119 | is there a way in launchpadlib for me to get a list of bugs that have a patch attached to them? | 21:11 |
| deryck | wallyworld_, np. | 21:11 |
| deryck | mhall119, use searchTasks and pass in the has_patch argument. see: https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/ | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | thanks deryck | 21:13 |
| deryck | np | 21:13 |
| wallyworld___ | deryck: hi, mumble? | 21:43 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, hey. give me 3 or 4 minutes to wrap what I'm doing and I'll meet you there. | 21:45 |
| wallyworld___ | ok | 21:45 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, and what's with all those underbars? ;) | 21:45 |
| wallyworld___ | no idea | 21:45 |
| wallyworld___ | NickServ says my nick is temporarily unavailable | 21:45 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, my brother in law came in sorry…. 5 more minutes | 21:49 |
| wallyworld___ | np | 21:49 |
| wallyworld___ | wgrant: i installed precise on a clean system. debversion for postgres 8.4 wouldn't install because libapt-pkg.4.10 wasn't there (precise uses 4.11 ). i can't find a deb for 4.10 anywhere. any hints? | 21:51 |
| wallyworld___ | wgrant: to get it working, i forced debversion to install and symlinked the required .so files to the 4.11 ones. but now apt insists on uninstalling debversion since it thinks it's broken | 21:53 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, ok, free now. firing up mumble | 21:54 |
| wallyworld___ | ok | 21:54 |
| wgrant | wallyworld___: According to gary on the ML, LP on precise is broken in other ways too. I'll do a fresh LP installation today and sort it out. | 21:54 |
| wallyworld___ | wgrant: thanks | 21:54 |
| wallyworld___ | deryck: for the single instance name, a few people have expressed a dislike for "LPS". perhaps "LP_YUI" or something | 22:25 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, sure, I don't care about that. I'd like to avoid underbars though. | 22:29 |
| wallyworld___ | deryck: i have no opinion, just relaying someone else's :-) | 22:29 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, what's the dislike of LPS? Just a weird name? | 22:29 |
| wallyworld___ | yeah | 22:29 |
| deryck | yeah, I can see that. | 22:29 |
| wallyworld___ | np, leave it to you to decide :-) | 22:30 |
| deryck | ah, I don't care. I'll change it but drop the under bar. LPYUI work? Or LPUI? Or …? | 22:30 |
| deryck | :) | 22:30 |
| lifeless | Launchpad Production Status | 22:30 |
| lifeless | ^ LPS already exists, lets not have two. | 22:30 |
| wallyworld___ | lifeless: it used to be LPS, we are deciding on a new name | 22:31 |
| deryck | I think it was originally meant to be LPJS, but the sed script was wrong, and no one noticed or complained til now. ;) | 22:31 |
| lifeless | thanks! :) | 22:31 |
| wallyworld___ | deryck: you serious???!!!! | 22:31 |
| deryck | wallyworld___, I am. ;) | 22:31 |
| wallyworld___ | lol | 22:31 |
| deryck | heh, I know. | 22:31 |
| wallyworld___ | LPYUI sounds ok to me, but meh | 22:32 |
| deryck | yeah, I'm not passionate about it either. | 22:32 |
| deryck | Just too lazy to type an underbar all the time. | 22:32 |
| * wallyworld___ nods | 22:32 | |
| deryck | I think we should try again for LPJS and see if we get it right this time. ;) | 22:33 |
| StevenK | LPJS sounds okay to me | 22:33 |
| StevenK | Better than LPS anyway | 22:33 |
| deryck | I'm just kidding around. Any other name is fine with me. Will let rick_h pick since he'll be doing the sed-based branch tomorrow. | 22:34 |
| deryck | Later on, everyone. | 22:53 |
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