[00:00] <wxl> freeroute: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[00:04] <Gnostus_> tertl6: What didja find?
[00:05] <freeroute> whoops... so I've learned what happens when I right click on a link and press C :p
[00:06] <freeroute> basically whole irssi closes
[00:06] <freeroute> also, why isn't irssi included with the default install of lubuntu? isn't it one of the most light-weight IRC clients?
[00:06] <wxl> freeroute: try ctrl-click
[00:07] <wxl> freeroute: yeah that's a good question. i've wondered that about some other things, too, but i think lubuntu aims to strike a balance between lightweight and feature rich
[00:07] <wxl> it's not an austere distro
[00:07] <wxl> just a lean one
[00:08] <wxl> like why aren't we all running w3m, right? ;)
[00:08] <Gnostus_> Because of lynx, of course ;)
[00:08] <wxl> ew lynx gross
[00:08] <freeroute> eeh... because there's also lynx? :p
[00:08] <freeroute> never tried both though
[00:09] <wxl> actually i like elinks a lot but w3m has some cool features
[00:09] <wxl> there's always dillo too
[00:09] <freeroute> I prefer pictures, animations and flash for my web experience
[00:10] <wxl> right
[00:10] <freeroute> browsing modern day web text only is just... too hardcore
[00:10] <wxl> and some people like emoticons and other garbage with their irc
[00:10] <wxl> not to mention the ability to integrate it with all their other im stuff
[00:10] <wxl> thus pidgin
[00:10] <freeroute> or KvIRC
[00:11] <Gnostus_> speaking of pidgin, am I clueless or is there really no way to save lists of channels?
[00:11] <freeroute> but then again, this is my first time using irssi and I already have a headache thinking about the time and effort I'm going to put into configuring it for just about my taste
[00:12] <wxl> Gnostus_: yep, clueless
[00:12] <wxl> freeroute: it *IS* a pita. but the results are worthwhile. i love my irssi.
[00:13] <wxl> Gnostus_: buddies > add chat
[00:13] <freeroute> I know, but that goes for just about the whole Linux experience in general :p
[00:13] <Gnostus_> wxl: woot, thanks
[00:14] <wxl> freeroute: the joy is that you can change EVERYTHING. you should check out what you can do to the mouse
[00:14] <freeroute> wxl: you mean... you still use the mouse? ;)
[00:16] <freeroute> I've seen what people can do with only their Openbox (and some panels), and it looks pretty slick, but then again... the amount of time those people put in configuring their design is amazing to say the least
[00:16] <wxl> i don't use the mouse much
[00:16] <wxl> i use firefox just because i need my vimperator plugin
[00:19] <freeroute> yeah that's what I'm trying to achieve, also doing everything with the CLI, but it's usually the small things that take the most time in research. For example... how can I delete whole words like Ctrl+Backspace in irssi? I've yet to find it on google :/
[00:20] <freeroute> also vim... wow that's a whole different level. irssi is a tiny blue dot compared to vim
[00:21] <freeroute> by the time it takes me to learn vim effectively I'll have a grey beard and long hair
[00:21] <freeroute> just in time to call myself a wizard
[00:24] <wxl> vim = <3
[00:24] <wxl> my vimrc is pretty short
[00:24] <wxl> vim is easy
[00:24] <wxl> that's what makes it wonderful
[00:25] <wxl> you're a wizard if you're skilled at sed
[00:25] <freeroute> and awk
[00:25] <wxl> nice to see someone trying to do all-cli
[00:25] <wxl> you should try finnix
[00:26] <wxl> oh nevermind
[00:26] <wxl> you need chromium :/
[00:26] <freeroute> I think all-CLI is the only way to work cross-platform (cross *nix in this case)
[00:27] <freeroute> looks cool, but how is Finnix different from let's say SysRescueCD or Trinity Rescue Kit ?
[00:28] <wxl> well i've found that finnix is one of those distros that "just works"
[00:29] <wxl> there were some networking things i tried to do with trk that were no problem on finnix
[00:31] <freeroute> I use SRCD usually for troubleshooting hardware and resolving windows boot issues
[00:32] <freeroute> I'm actually booted in a liveUSB Lubuntu environment to remove a virus from my windows system lol
[00:32] <freeroute> root@ubuntu:~# uptime 01:36:29 up 4 days,  5:03,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[00:33] <freeroute> I kind of procrastinated on that one ;)
[01:12] <freeroute> welp, here's the report - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/924049
[01:12] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 924049 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Unable to go back by pressing the Backspace key." [Undecided,New]
[01:14] <freeroute> I hope it's according to all of the rules and guidelines :)
[03:58] <JadedJacob> Good to see LUBUNTU an official ubuntu release now :)
[03:59] <JadedJacob> Just about to set it up on a spare pentium 4 2.4ghz box I have.
[04:00] <JadedJacob> It has a Windows XP license, but I'd rather not have to install a whole bunch of extra software like Anti-Virus, Firewall just so I can go on the net with it.
[04:52] <bkm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide <- is this where one would go to find out how to connect a lubuntu machine to a wireless network?
[04:57] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: lubuntu use network manager to. or use /etc/network/interfaces
[04:58] <bkm> is there lubuntu specific documentation?
[04:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lubuntu is the same ubuntu with lxde
[05:01] <bkm> okay, thank you. i will try it again next time i am near an axis point
[05:05] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: driver for wi-fi work fine?
[05:05] <bkm> i don't know
[05:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: iwconfig
[05:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  Mode:Master  Frequency:2.422 GHz  Tx-Power=20 dBm
[05:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus>           Power Management:off
[05:07] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: for start
[05:10] <bkm> JohnDoe_71Rus: that looks close to what i recall. -27 dB signal or somesuch
[05:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: if you get some like this, you can try setup wifi in network manager
[05:55] <JadedJacob> how can i free up some resources on lubuntu? I'm using a pentium 4 2.4ghz and 512MB RAM, geforce 4ti 64MB.
[05:55] <JadedJacob> I realise lubuntu is already a light weight OS, but how can I eek out a bit more performance?
[06:00] <wxl> JadedJacob: you use bluetooth? if not you could kill that
[06:06] <bkm> JohnDoe_71Rus: thanks. i installed wicd and it is finding networks. i'm sure network manager would have found them after some configuration
[06:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: good
[06:07] <bkm> is there any reason why it wouldn't be standard on lubuntu? does it have deficiencies that are not apparent?
[06:07] <wxl> i loathe wicd
[06:07] <wxl> one thing i found with nm is that there seems to be a bug where wireless is disabled upon boot
[06:07] <wxl> click on the icon, hit enable wireless and all is well
[06:08] <bkm> wxl is there a good doc on the [l]ubuntu way to connect to wireless networks?
[06:08] <wxl> bkm: no because it should just be sort of thoughtless. frankly once you've done the above it is
[06:08] <wxl> furthermore nm is what regular ubuntu comes with so anything you find on ubuntu will apply
[06:09] <bkm> wait, so you are saying use wicd? because before i installed it, i had no idea there were any wireless networks in my neighborhood?
[06:09] <wxl> no i'm saying wicd sucks
[06:10] <bkm> but i have to say it was pretty thoughtless.
[06:10] <wxl> i'm saying if you merely click on the nm icon and click "enable wireless" everything will work like normal
[06:11] <bkm> in lubuntu speak is nm: Preferences >> Network Connections?
[06:12] <wxl> i'm referring to the icon in the taskbar
[06:12] <wxl> although that's part of it
[06:12] <wxl> but that's not where the enable wireless menu is
[06:14] <bkm> this is seeming not so thoughtless...
[06:16] <wxl> http://imagebin.org/196472
[06:16] <wxl> you get that by right clicking on the icon
[06:16] <wxl> when wireless is disabled the icon looks like an arrow going up and an arrow going down
[06:17]  * bkm swaps cards...
[06:20] <JadedJacob> wxl: nah I don't use bluetooth, wireless, printer, scanner
[06:21] <wxl> JadedJacob: then you should unload some services. the package sysv-rc-conf makes this supereasy. just make sure you ONLY uncheck for run levels 1-5
[06:22] <wxl> bluetooth is always loaded so that's a big target
[06:22] <wxl> cups is on demand so no worries there
[06:25] <bkm> wxl: i get the pretty "no networks found" address-label-sized popup. it then says, networks found, and then disappears. no wifi insignia on the task bar...
[06:25] <wxl> in that menu is wireless enabled or not, bkm ?
[06:27] <bkm> no wifi insignia on the task bar...
[06:27] <bkm> :. no menu, that i know of
[06:27] <wxl> there must be an icon
[06:27] <wxl> unless your wifi isn't working period
[06:27] <bkm> there is a strange icon:
[06:28] <wxl> it doesn't necessarily look like a wifi icon
[06:28] <bkm> i see that it is not there now
[06:28]  * bkm swaps cards again...
[06:31] <bkm> yeah, it shows two monitors and says, connection properties eth0, which is disconnected as it is sitting on a table.
[06:32] <wxl> monitors, eh?
[06:32] <wxl> is that 11.04??
[06:32] <bkm> like a vpn connection
[06:32] <wxl> or 10.10?
[06:32] <wxl> cuz there ain't no monitors in 11.10 :D
[06:32] <wxl> now there is wicd and its god forsaken icon…
[06:33] <bkm> root@badblue:/tmp# cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:33] <bkm> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[06:33] <bkm> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[06:33] <bkm> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[06:33] <wxl> this demands a screenshot
[06:34] <bkm> ii  network-manager                               0.9.1.90-0ubuntu5.1                                        network management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
[06:34] <bkm> it may be something i installed along the way. this started out as a j or k load, i think.
[06:35] <wxl> put scrot or lxscreenshot to work for you
[06:36] <bkm> yeah, i have used scrot before
[06:36]  * bkm swaps cards again...
[06:38] <bkm> my /home directory is 99% full. i wonder if it could be trying to overfill it and failing...
[06:56] <bkm> hrm, apparently scrot fired when i had the tool tip up...even though the tooltip is not to be seen
[07:09] <bkm> http://imagebin.org/196476 <- wicd finds A/Ps. no network antenna strength icon
[07:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: right mouse click on 2 arrows botom, check wireless network. then left mouse click on the same 2 arrows. shuld list wi-fi net
[07:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: in network manager icons for eth more prioritet then wifi or gprs
[07:23] <bkm> JohnDoe_71Rus: i guess i fail the obvious test...</shame>
[07:24] <bkm> I guess I was ignoring it because it was greyed-out. but it was greyed out because no information was flowing...
[07:25] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bkm: if wicd work, networkmanager work to
[07:25] <bkm> yeah, if by `to` you mean, `too` *wink*
[07:27] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[07:29] <bkm> thx to you and wxl. i'm still not sure why clicking on the big giant popup button makes the big giant popup button go away...
[08:03] <JadedJacob> wxl: so run levels 1-5 are not core parts of the OS?
[08:07] <wxl> JadedJacob: 1-5 are for all intents and purposes the same
[08:07] <wxl> having more than one allows you to define different startup options
[08:08] <wxl> say you wanted to have a unique boot (that you could specify via grub) that only loaded the most basic things-- no gui. you could do that
[08:08] <wxl> default run level should be 2
[08:09] <wxl> aw shit
[08:09] <wxl> (sorry)
[08:09] <wxl> nevermidn what i said about 1
[08:09] <wxl> TWO through 5
[08:09] <wxl> i forgot 1 was single user mode i.e. recovery
[08:09] <wxl> 0 is shutdown
[08:10] <wxl> 6 is restart
[08:10] <wxl> S is special
[08:10] <wxl> you might find this insightful: http://pthree.org/2008/02/26/managing-services-in-ubuntu-part-i-an-introduction-to-runlevels/
[08:10] <JadedJacob> oh ok, thanks I'll do some reading
[08:11] <JadedJacob> thanks man, i have so many old machines i just don't want to get rid of :D
[08:11] <wxl> no prob
[08:12] <wxl> i'm with you on that one
[08:12] <wxl> lubuntu is awesome that way
[08:12] <JadedJacob> It's the same with old devices.
[08:13] <JadedJacob> I have a 20GB ipod classic, instead of throwing it away, I'm going to order a new $20 HDD and get up to a working state again
[08:13] <wxl> oh nice. you should load linux on it!
[08:14] <JadedJacob> Also have a sony vaio from 2003, that needs a new keyboard and a new battery, no way would I take that to the dump
[08:14] <wxl> i nee da new battery on my thinkpad. i just run on ac all the time
[08:14] <wxl> it was free ;)
[08:14] <JadedJacob> Oh true.
[08:14] <wxl> got a stick of ram out of some other machine i inherieted
[08:14] <wxl> i'm always salvaging
[08:14] <JadedJacob> Why would I load linux on the ipod?
[08:15] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPodLinux
[08:15] <wxl> cuz you can play doom on it ;)
[08:15] <JadedJacob> haha
[08:15] <wxl> seriously tho it offers a lot more usefulness
[08:15] <JadedJacob> My ipod is pretty old, it's not colour
[08:16] <wxl> i'd say it effectively turns an old ipod into something like a ds with a gameboy display
[08:16] <wxl> i was going to give my nano that treatment but they recalled it and i ended up with a new one and it's not ocmpatible :(
[08:17] <wxl> too bad i gave my original ipod to my wife…
[08:17] <wxl> of course she's been talking about getting an iphone so maybe i'll get it back
[08:21] <JadedJacob> http://support.apple.com/kb/SP73
[08:21] <JadedJacob> who is 'they' and why did they recall it?
[08:21] <JadedJacob> Mine is the 20GB model.
[08:21] <wxl> apple; battery failure
[08:22] <wxl> this is only on the original nano
[08:22] <JadedJacob> oh ok
[08:22] <JadedJacob> Ipod linux looks cool, I'll try it out when I get the new drive for it.
[08:23] <wxl> there ya go
[08:23] <JadedJacob> Can I play HE AAC on ipodlinux, or is that to do with the firmware, do you know?
[08:23] <bkm> how hard is it to get into an ipod of that era?
[08:24] <wxl> not sure, JadedJacob but my guess is that the firmware is limited but the hardware has no problem
[08:25] <JadedJacob> I also have a ipod nano 3rd gen.
[08:25] <JadedJacob> http://support.apple.com/kb/SP14
[08:26] <JadedJacob> Tried playing sonic the hedgehog on that, but it was horrible, it's too tiny to be gaming on.
[08:26] <wxl> heh
[08:26] <JadedJacob> it's a great little unit though.
[08:31] <JadedJacob> What's the slowest hardware you've used on lubuntu?
[08:32] <JadedJacob> I have a celeron 533 that needs an OS :)
[08:32] <wxl> in actually not anything dramatic
[08:32] <wxl> but i've run some severely throttled vms
[08:37] <JadedJacob> Is it possible to install lubuntu to a flashdrive and boot off that?
[08:38] <wxl> yep
[08:38] <JadedJacob> hmmmm
[08:39] <JadedJacob> I was thinking about putting a 1.2GB HDD in my celeron box as well as a USB flash drive and using the 1.2GB HDD to install GRUB and use that to boot off the flashdrive.
[08:40] <JadedJacob> Performance will be horrible though won't it?
[08:40] <JadedJacob> I'll have to install a PCI USB 2.0 card.
[08:47] <giuseppe60> hello
[08:48] <giuseppe60> to speed up opening Lubuntu for my pc should be 50 seconds
[08:49] <JadedJacob> wxl: do you know how to do it?
[13:09] <giuseppe60> hello
[13:10] <giuseppe60> to speed up opening Lubuntu for my pc should be 50 seconds:  you can?
[13:22] <giuseppe60> pcroque,   hello
[13:35] <pcroque> giuseppe60: hi
[13:35] <giuseppe60> pcroque,   Lubuntu exists in a free utility to move and copy files in a smarter and faster,: type TeraCopy windows?
[13:38] <pcroque> giuseppe60: I don't really know. There is probably a similar gui program on Linux. But I use rsync (command-line) for all that.
[13:39] <giuseppe60> pcroque,  ok thanks
[13:42] <pcroque> giuseppe60: You might take a look at grsync. It's a gui front-end for rsync.
[13:44] <giuseppe60> pcroque,  is installed with Synaptic
[13:45] <pcroque> Yes.
[13:46] <yenoh> quick question, anybody faces segmentation fault with nvidia and compiz (and optionally, emerald)?
[14:30] <Nezdrav> am i in the right place to ask for tech supp.?
[14:30] <jiero> hi, is here any gnumeric user?
[14:31] <jiero> I found the gnumeric perform differently from my previous experience: once you click on a cell you cannot cancel this action with any action result in clear the cell - which ih chsadlkfjasldk;jkljlkjlkjlkjl
[14:33] <Nezdrav> anyone to ask a few question 'bout lubuntu problem??
[15:19] <freeroute> I'm trying to lock my screen and I've read that I should issue the shell command 'xscreensaver-command -lock', but that doesn't work :(
[15:20] <freeroute> so binding it to the key in the openbox config is subsequently uneffective
[15:22] <pcroque> freeroute: on my system (Lubuntu 11.10) xscreensaver-command -lock works fine. What does it do on your system?
[15:23] <freeroute> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ xscreensaver-command -lock
[15:23] <freeroute> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[15:25] <freeroute> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ uname -a
[15:25] <freeroute> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[15:25] <freeroute> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cat /etc/issue
[15:25] <freeroute> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[15:26] <freeroute> should I file a bug again, pcroque? :p
[15:27] <pcroque> What happens if you type: xscreensaver-command -restart
[15:37] <pcroque> \e
[15:42] <freeroute> pcroque: same thing, but I think I figured out what's wrong... some time ago I killed the screensaver daemon in the Lubuntu Screensaver settings. Is that absolutely necessary to lock my screen? My CPU activity goes up around 50% when the screensaver is active...
[15:45] <pcroque> freeroute: if you don't need the functions of xscreensaver, I don't see any reason you have to have it running.
[15:52] <freeroute> pcroque: but I do want to lock my screen and get a password prompt for when I want to use my session again, how can this be done without xscreensaver?
[15:55] <pcroque> freeroute: I don't know. Maybe someone else here can provide another idea.
[16:25] <freeroute> pcroque: allright, thanks so far. I found this in the meantime - http://tools.suckless.org/slock
[17:11] <tertl6> how do I install all packages with a certain name in them?
[17:12] <holstein> like sudo apt-get install libreoffice-* ?
[17:12] <tertl6> yeah
[17:13] <tertl6> im trying to get supercollider working
[17:14] <holstein> whats the error message? try starting it from the terminal
[17:15] <tertl6> well I've always used the gedit plugin
[17:16] <freeroute> holstein: did you try with sudo ?
[17:16] <holstein> freeroute: ?.. you mean tertl6 ?
[17:17] <holstein> did tertl6 try gksudo with suppercollider ?
[17:17] <freeroute> oh yeah sorry, I meant tertl6 :p
[17:17] <freeroute> and pD extended > supercollider ;)
[17:19] <tertl6> no i didnt try those yet
[17:21] <holstein> i havent used either.. but feel free and link some error messages, and i'll help trouble shoot
[17:21] <tertl6> i think its a gnome 3 problem
[17:21] <holstein> it should say... some "gtk error" or whatever
[17:21] <holstein> you should be in LXDE though
[17:22] <tertl6> i need to get the git repo of it apparently
[17:23] <holstein> is that what the error message says?
[17:23] <tertl6> no thats what google said
[17:23] <holstein> i would look for a PPA
[17:23] <tertl6> i either need to upgrade sc or downngrade gedit
[17:24] <holstein> gedit?
[17:24] <holstein> what are you trying to edit?
[17:25] <holstein> try geany or one of the others
[17:25] <holstein> or something like nano just to confirm
[17:25] <holstein> i wouldnt let a version of a text editor push me around into a version battle
[17:25] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~supercollider/+archive/ppa
[17:27] <tertl6> how to downgrade gedit?
[17:28] <holstein> i would open synaptic, and force an older version.. however, i would have tested to confirm that gedit is indeed the issue
[17:28] <tertl6> i just remember some things are hard to downgrade becasue of deps
[17:32] <holstein> tertl6: gedit?
[17:32] <holstein> its just a text editor..
[17:33] <holstein> that is what you are talking about right?.. are you editing the code in gedit for SC ?
[17:34] <tertl6> no
[19:21] <iceroot> is there a reason why there are so many "unsubscribe" on lubuntu bugs in the last days? e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/906825  maybe something because of the new mailinglist?
[19:21] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 906825 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "[11.10 - 12.04] lxpanel crashing randomly. High CPU-Load nothing is clickable correctly. Redraw fails" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:22] <iceroot> see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/906825/comments/16  there is the text of our mailinglist. it would be great if you dont write that to launchpad-bugmailing
[19:23] <Unit193> It's because someone decided it was a good idea to subscribe the mailing list to a bug report, and even more people don't know how to handle bugs -_-
[19:24] <iceroot> it was me
[19:24] <iceroot> i added lubuntu team on the bug so that lubuntu members see the bug
[19:26] <iceroot> is there another lubuntu-team which should be added to a bug so all members see the bug, the status and the possible fix?
[19:27] <Unit193> You really shouldn't subscribe a list, but there doesn't seem to be a "project page" for it
[19:28] <iceroot> hm ok
[19:29] <iceroot> normally i use the following groups for my bugs, ubuntu-sponsors, canocial-desktop-team, german-translation-team or lubuntu-desktop because i thought only then the "responsable persons" see the bug
[19:30] <Unit193> It's been sending to the entire user lists for Lubuntu. One of the devs can "addign" it to Lubuntu, but that's for them more
[19:31] <iceroot> maybe we can put that on the agenda for tomorrow to discuss/show how to handle lubuntu-bugs correctly
[19:32] <iceroot> it would be interesting for me to know how to do it correctly and maybe for others too
[19:32] <iceroot> gilir: ^
[19:33] <gilir> iceroot, no need to subscribe anybody
[19:33] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
[19:34] <iceroot> gilir: ok
[19:34] <gilir> iceroot, just for your information, I receive already all bugs reported relative to LXDE / Lubuntu from launchpad
[19:34] <iceroot> normally i had the problem (not lubuntu-specific), i created a bug, i added a patch and nothing happened, only after adding ubuntu-sponsors they see my bug and my patch
[19:35] <iceroot> gilir: ok if you see them without adding lubuntu on it i think everything is fine and i will not add lubuntu in the future
[19:35] <gilir> and if anybody want the same, he can request to join the team https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging
[19:36] <iceroot> gilir: so lubuntu-packaging is always informed about lubuntu bug actions?
[19:36] <njin> Hello, is already fixed the greeter bug?
[20:15] <phillw> njin: it appears not, you can follow it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/918401
[20:15] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 918401 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Unity-greeter installed by default on Lubuntu, crashing on start" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:39] <anne_> hi
[20:40] <anne_> welchen vpn client kann man für lubuntu empfehlen?
[20:40] <Unit193> !de
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[20:41] <bmoez> i have a desktop that it RAM is 256Mo, can lubuntu works well and run lots of apps in?
[20:42] <Unit193> bmoez: 256 is on the lower end, but it'd depend on the programs
[20:42] <pAt_> there is also #lubuntu-de ;)
[20:43] <bmoez> Unitl193: for exemple video editor like openshot or kdenlive
[20:48] <Unit193> I've never tired it, but I'd guess that wouldn't do the best....
[20:48] <Unit193> Also, depends on the CPU too
[20:49] <bmoez> it's intel pentium 64 bits 3.2Ghz
[20:55] <Unit193> There's only one way to findout for sure, but that's not a lot of ram to do that type of thing
[20:58] <njin> Actually i can work acceptably in a pentium 2 350 MHz with 600Mb ram
[21:00] <Unit193> njin: Editing videos?
[21:01] <bmoez> Ok , can you give me a list of apps for  playing and editing music , graphics and videos that can run on my PC?
[21:41] <Administrator> i can't burn cds???
[21:43] <downbeam> i cant burn cds
[21:44] <holstein> downbeam: in what way?.. i typically use xfburn or install brasero
[21:44] <downbeam> it says i dont have the right decoder or something
[21:44] <holstein> downbeam: whatever "it" says you are missing, you can install
[21:45] <holstein> you can install the big meta pacakge... ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:45] <holstein> though, thats a lot more than just what you need
[21:46] <downbeam> i cant find it ive already tried should i download brasero?
[21:46] <holstein> downbeam: nope... brasero is not a decoder
[21:46] <holstein> you can give us the exact error message
[21:46] <downbeam> ok i will but it will take a second
[21:47] <holstein> you can install brasero and see if it either installs what you need as a dependancy, or prompts you for what to install in a more precise and effective way
[21:47] <holstein> or you can try the meta-package i suggested
[21:47] <downbeam> here is that error message...
[21:48] <downbeam> MPEG-1 layer 3 (MP3) decoder is missing
[21:48] <holstein> maybe you are tying to make a CD from mp3 files?... you can install the fluendo mp3 codecs
[21:48] <holstein> yup... install the fluendo one
[21:48] <holstein> or the meta-package i suggested
[21:48] <downbeam> ok how do i get fluendo?
[21:48] <holstein> or search in the package manager of your choice for a mp3 codec
[21:49] <holstein> downbeam: i would open the package manger i like, and search fluendo
[21:49] <downbeam> i've already tried package manager.......
[21:49] <downbeam> listen...
[21:49] <holstein> downbeam: OK... how about the terminal?
[21:49] <holstein> sudo apt-cache search fluendo
[21:50] <holstein> OR, you can install that meta-packge.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:50] <holstein> or, you can convert the files to an open, friendlier format
[21:51] <Unit193> holstein: lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:51] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[21:51] <downbeam> i am on a computer that has the internet but does not have the operating system i am working on...?
[21:51] <wxl> then get to the OS ;)
[21:51] <holstein> downbeam: thats going to be ore challening
[21:52] <wxl> hahahaha
[21:52] <holstein> downbeam: you can download .debs for what you need
[21:52] <downbeam> i know i dont have the internet on the other one
[21:52] <holstein> i would literally just unplug the one you are on, and plug it into the other one, and search for the codec, install it.. switch the cables back
[21:53] <holstein> we should refer to that as "the easy way"
[21:53] <downbeam> i know that cute but i don't have a modem in the other one
[21:54] <Unit193> !offline |Harder way
[21:54] <ubot5`> Harder way: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD
[21:54] <holstein> downbeam: its not meant to be cute.. its just *way* more challening for you the harder way.. not impossible though... you can start there ^^
[21:57] <downbeam> how do i find out what distribution i have?
[21:57] <holstein> downbeam: what did you install? lubuntu 11.10?
[21:57] <downbeam> yes
[21:58] <downbeam> ?
[21:59] <holstein> downbeam: yeah.. thats it.. it can be called oneiric
[21:59] <holstein> you installed, and are using the lubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot distribution
[21:59] <downbeam> do you know what meta package i already have?
[22:00] <holstein> downbeam: dont worry  with the term "meta-pacakge"
[22:00] <holstein> that was before i knew you had no internet
[22:00] <holstein> just find the fluendo .deb and its dependancies
[22:01] <downbeam> damn can i download fluendo then put it on a jump drive and move it to the other computer and install it?
[22:01] <holstein> you can also do it from a funtional machine... someone else running 11.10 can generate the scripts to download what you need
[22:02] <holstein> Unit193 taught me that trick using synaptic
[22:02] <downbeam> i just have the two computers
[22:02] <holstein> downbeam: that is what i am percieving as your only option... is that correct?
[22:02] <holstein> downbeam: right
[22:02] <downbeam> right
[22:02] <holstein> whats OS is the computer with netwroking running?
[22:03] <downbeam> xp
[22:03] <holstein> why not convert the mp3's to ogg in xp
[22:03] <holstein> burn the CD in xp
[22:03] <downbeam> i dont have a burner on here
[22:04] <holstein> you can run the cd you install lubuntu from live on the machine with networking... run synaptic. search fluendo... generate download scripts... save them, take those and download the packages and move them to the other machine
[22:04] <holstein> NIC's are *really* cheap... i trip over them in the space where i work on computers
[22:05] <holstein> i see them for $2.. not that you have to... you just have to decide how you would like to get the pacakges... and what you need to get, and just get them, and move them over
[22:05] <downbeam> that sucks i gess i will just wait for networking on the other computer
[22:06] <holstein> downbeam: right... OR any of the above suggestions as well will do the trick
[22:06] <holstein> you can also try a live CD with the codec included.. mint or whatever
[22:07] <downbeam> ...    i dont know thats too complicated for me
[22:07] <downbeam> ...
[22:07] <downbeam> i downloaded essential-20071007 already and it's just not mounted
[22:08] <holstein> downbeam: i dont know what that means
[22:08] <holstein> downbeam: thats why i would just get a NIC.. they are cheap.. or borrow one from the other machine..
[22:08] <downbeam> it's essential-20071007.tar.bz2
[22:09] <holstein> right.. i have no idea what that is.. i said download the proper .deb's and the dependancies
[22:09] <holstein> those are what you will want to take over to the machine
[22:09] <holstein> "its essential" means nothing to me
[22:13] <holstein> this is relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814874 not sure about the outcome
[22:13] <holstein> downbeam: ^^
[22:14] <downbeam> no that is the name of the file and it's zipped
[22:21] <downbeam> do you know how to mount that file?
[22:23] <downbeam> ???
[22:23] <downbeam> any one help
[22:25] <downbeam> can someone fucking help me
[22:27] <Unit193> downbeam: Watch the language!
[22:27] <Unit193> He's been helping you
[22:27] <downbeam> i know but he left
[22:27] <downbeam> can you help me out
[22:29] <Unit193> .tar.bz2 is extracted, not mounted
[22:31] <downbeam> do you know how to mount stuff?
[22:31] <Unit193> Again, that's a compressed file
[22:32] <Unit193> !mount | downbeam
[22:32] <ubot5`> downbeam: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount