[00:22] <Fudge> Ian_Corne  what did you find annoying about hud?
[00:41] <cjoke> hud sounds nice, hud ftw! :)
[00:55] <snadge> grr.. where is smspillaz ;)
[03:10] <Laibsch> Hey, my main system is lucy but I want to try out precise and I hope somebody here can help me achieve that.  I have an encrypted LVM.  The main /boot is on a separate partition unencrypted.
[03:12] <Laibsch> I have created a new partition in the encrypted LVM and it holds a precise installation.  How do I chainload that partition to grub?  Or do I have to move at least the /boot portion of that precise install outside the encryption container?
[03:15] <urlin2u> Laibsch, lucy?
[03:16] <Laibsch> sorry, lucid ;-)
[03:16] <Laibsch> close enough, no?
[03:16] <urlin2u> nope lol
[03:16] <Laibsch> urlin2u: you have an idea how to go about this?
[03:17] <urlin2u> Laibsch, not really.
[04:28] <ali1234> every time i run update manager it tries to install openjdk-6-jre:i386
[04:28] <ali1234> but this package can't be installed because it conflicts with openjdk-6-jre
[04:37] <Laibsch> ali1234: what exactly is your question?
[04:37] <ali1234> how to rectify this situation?
[04:39] <Laibsch> looks like a multi-archi issue
[04:39] <Laibsch> the package conflicts with itself?
[04:40] <ali1234> no, the i386 package conflicts with the 64 bit version
[04:40] <Laibsch> If I were you, I'd poke around with aptitude to learn about the dependencies
[04:40] <ali1234> i know about dependencies
[04:40] <ali1234> there are none
[04:40] <ali1234> and in fact, if i use for example "apt-get dist-upgrade" it does not attempt to install those packages
[04:40] <Laibsch> is your system mainly 64 bit with some packages from i385?
[04:40] <ali1234> only update manager is doing this
[04:40] <ali1234> yes
[04:40] <Laibsch> oh, that's indeed strange
[04:41] <ali1234> i am writing a bug report
[04:41] <Laibsch> the "only update-manager" part
[04:41] <Laibsch> I always use aptitude only
[04:41] <Laibsch> much easier to deal with for me
[04:42] <micahg> umm, they shouldn't conflict with each other, but they have to stay in sync version wise
[04:42] <ali1234> they don't actually conflict in the apt sense
[04:42] <micahg> aptitude doesn't handle multiarch well
[04:42] <micahg> *yet
[04:42] <ali1234> the actual error is " conffile './etc/java-6-openjdk/security/java.policy' is not in sync with other instances of the same package"
[04:42] <micahg> at least in terms of conflicts
[04:43] <ali1234> and  './usr/share/applications/openjdk-6-policytool.desktop' is different from the same file on the system
[04:43] <ali1234> then dpkg crashes
[04:43] <ali1234> anyway i'm putting all this in the bug report
[04:43] <micahg> ali1234: that's a multiarch bug, please file against openjdk-6 and tag multiarch
[04:44] <ali1234> ok. but what about the fact that only update-manager actually wants to do this, while apt-get doesn't?
[04:44] <Laibsch> micahg: good to know.  I'm still using lucid for everyday things.  I've been struggling with a dual-boot between lucid and natty/maverick/oneiric/precise ever since because I made the mistake to encrypt my HD.
[04:45] <micahg> Laibsch: encrypting the HD is a good thing :)
[04:45] <Laibsch> or so I thought
[04:45] <micahg> Laibsch: I'd suggest a second drive for the precise partition, you should still be able to chainload into that from lucid
[04:46] <Laibsch> at least ecryptfs has given me more than a fair share of headaches, it's not ready yet, IMVHO
[04:47] <Laibsch> no space for a second drive in my laptop ;)  and booting from USB would likely be dog slow.  besides my only external HD is 6.000 miles away ;-)  problems, problems ;-)
[05:24] <Laibsch> can somebody please test if bug 924103 is also present in precise?  I'm still precise-challenged ;-)
[05:52] <Fudge> Laibsch  i can tell u its not picking up osx partitions but thats about it
[05:54] <Laibsch> thanks, Fudge.  No FAT32 partition handy (on a USB stick, for example)?  Can you please leave a comment about those osx partitions, although technically, that may be a separate bug.
[06:29] <Ian_Corne> Fudge: It just randomly pops up
[06:29] <Ian_Corne> and it messes up my alt tabbing
[06:38] <Fudge> oh why does it mess with the switcher Ian_Corne
[06:38] <Fudge> i use tha tloads
[06:48] <snadge> if only unity wasn't such a pain in the arse to build from source
[06:48] <snadge> even with a guide.. sigh ;)
[06:49] <codepal> I'm getting used to the tabbing, barely use it
[06:50] <codepal> easier to use the workspace switcher
[06:50] <codepal> I've used unity for over 18hrs now....
[06:50] <snadge> ive been on it for months now.. but an irritating bug has been fixed in trunk
[06:51] <snadge> i should say.. a bug thats been in all versions of unity that i have used
[06:51] <snadge> has *finally* been fixed in trunk
[06:51] <snadge> so im on a mission to try and compile trunk.. and well.. its a bit painful at the moment
[06:52] <codepal> snadge, good luck - I'm sure it'd take quite awhile to complete a full compile...
[06:52] <snadge> no im just building the bits that i have to
[06:52] <snadge> its not too bad
[06:52] <codepal> aha - whew
[06:52] <snadge> so far.. nux and unity.. but now i have to include bamf
[06:53] <snadge> which isnt part of the guide.. but you know how these things god
[06:53] <snadge> err go
[06:54] <snadge> and of course theres other issues which are preventing a release.. but if it fixes this long standing unity focus bug.. i'll be over the moon
[06:54] <snadge> hopefully the fix is backported to 11.10
[06:56] <snadge> zomg it compiled ;)
[06:56] <Fudge> whats the bug that got fixed
[06:56] <snadge> well it hasnt even been reported but basically
[06:57] <snadge> if you switch workspace to one which has say.. firefox on it.. and type into the location bar.. the autocomplete feature sometimes doesnt work
[06:57] <snadge> and if you right click (context menu) then move the mouse over the menu, it will disappear
[06:57] <snadge> unless you refocus the window by manually clicking on the title bar
[06:57] <codepal> what's the deal with this ALT + F2 + r thing?
[06:58] <codepal> I've tried it, doesn't seem to do anything for my shell themes, or nada...
[06:59] <Fudge> whats it supposed to do codepal
[07:03] <codepal> Typing 'r' or 'restart' in the Alt+F2 prompt will restart GNOME Shell. This is useful when you are make changes to the GNOME Shell code while working within the GNOME Shell. You don't need to compile anything if you only changed JavaScript code, but you need to run compilation as you would normally do for C code before restarting.
[07:03] <codepal> copied from gnome-shells website
[07:04] <codepal> Unity is based on Gnome3 isn't it? - http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
[07:04] <crizzy> no
[07:04] <crizzy> unity is a _shell_ for gnome 3
[07:05] <crizzy> gnome-shell is the official shell
[07:05] <codepal> huh - O yeah, right! - sorry my mistook.
[07:56] <JabberwockyA19> Is there a list of backports made from kernel 3.3 ? I would like to know if 12.04 will have hdmi audio support for both nv/amd graphics cards.
[08:38] <geser> if nobody knows here, try asking the kernel guys in #ubuntu-kernel
[08:52] <JabberwockyA19> thanks, optionally I can always download the alpha ;)
[08:58] <iceroot> JabberwockyA19: the changelog
[09:17] <tekonivel> i haven't had telepathy in he applet-menu for about a week now, i wonder what am i missing (Precise 12.04, telepathy* -packages are installed)
[09:29] <JabberwockyA19> found changes to amd-evergreen hdmi and drm/nouveau/hdmi support in the kernel-ppa changelog files for 3.3-rc1, no changes found in 3.2.x
[10:07] <vega> so, how do nvidia binary drivers work at this point?[C
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:46] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 14 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:10] <HFSPLUS> i am chris thomas how hot and sexy am i?
[15:10] <HFSPLUS> !ops
[16:02] <dash> ahoyhoy. any users of awesome want to give me advice on configuring awesome and gnome-session together on precise? i don't entirely grok what the X session stuff does currently
[17:42] <Marcin_> hallo
[17:43] <Marcin_> kann mir mal einer sagen wie man bei ubuntu diese taskleiste von oben nach unten verschiebt?
[17:44] <jtaylor> in unity? ich glaub das geht nicht
[17:45] <Marcin_> also ich benutze ne akutelle daily von 12.4 denke mal das ist unity
[17:49] <jtaylor> I lost my wireles connection with precise yesterday, anyone else having this issue?
[17:52] <Marcin_> Hi, I am just testing ubuntu 12.4 daily and i would like to move the task list to the bottom, but i dont know how?
[18:09] <acer_aspire8930> Hi all does anyone else have issues with mozilla firefox and thunderbird when printing,  sometimes the letters are printed on top of one another or letters are spaced out across the page.  This happens when printing to HP laserjet and PDF file.
[18:47] <imnichol> I'm suddenly experiencing a bug where I close my laptop, it suspends, and then when I open it again the screen is not locked
[18:47] <imnichol> Anyone else seeing that?
[18:49] <trism> imnichol: have you updated recently? there were several patches to gnome-screensaver and gnome-settings-daemon that were supposed to fix that
[18:49] <imnichol> I'm running my updates now
[18:50] <imnichol> In fact, brb testing it
[19:58] <oly> hi, been having some problems with unity in 12.04, unity 2d works fine and gnome shell works along with 3d acceleration but standard unity loads minus the launcher
[19:59] <oly> if i boot in and launch unity --replace i do not get any errors i have pasted the output here http://pastebin.com/FK0jBgCk
[20:00] <urlin2u> oly, did you install the compizconfig settings manager and make sure the unity plugin is ticked on?
[20:01] <oly> anyone encountered this, or any ideas how to fix, been happening for like the last month just using unity 2d hoping it would fix itself
[20:01] <oly> hum, urlin2u quite likely i have it so i will check that pretty certain i never disabled it though :p
[20:02] <trism> oly: try a: unity --reset; and then log out/back in, I had a similar problem earlier this month, think some settings got messed up
[20:03] <urlin2u> oly, tweaking compiz is problematic with unity you have to know what your doing, there are lots of webpages on what to exspect, a compiz restart button is a great help.
[20:05] <oly> urlin2u, that was it launched ccsm and enabled untity, there was a load of conflicts but i have resolved them :)
[20:06] <urlin2u> oly, cool. :D
[20:06] <oly> trism, thanks think i will do a reset anyway this machine has been through many versions of ubuntu and may help reset anything i have tweaked along the way
[20:21] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:31] <rocky> did recent updates break sound?
[20:36] <urlin2u> rocky, not here you check for bugs on the web?
[20:37] <rocky> urlin2u, looks like the issue has been bugged already (just found it) -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/902944
[20:38] <urlin2u> rocky, hehe wait for the fix I guess.
[20:38] <rocky> doh
[20:38] <urlin2u> lol
[20:38] <rocky> can't do work without my music lol
[20:39] <urlin2u> rocky, I generally clone a working setup just for these sort of occasions.
[20:39] <rocky> urlin2u, what do you use to do the clone?
[20:39] <urlin2u> clonezilla.org
[20:39] <urlin2u> saves the mbr as well pretty cool.
[20:40] <rocky> oh nice
[20:40] <urlin2u> network clones and reloads nice set up I just use it for single deives or partitions.
[20:40] <urlin2u> drives*
[20:56] <rocky> i've got a laptop with hybrid graphics, nvidia/intel with a displayport and hdmi output ... the displayport works fine but the hdmi does not (and it didn't on oneric)  work... anyone know if there's something to make that work on precise ?
[21:00] <Ceno> hello everyone. I'm trying to install precise alpha 1 in virtualbox and the installer just crashes at the end. the same happens with the latest daily build. any known fixes?
[23:04] <acer_aspire8930>  Hi who can I speak to about fixing the layout of the printer properties?
[23:04] <acer_aspire8930> before the official release
[23:05] <acer_aspire8930> anyone
[23:33] <AlanBell> anyone finding libreoffice not starting? after some experimentation I find I have to remove libreoffice-gtk to get it to run
[23:44] <codepal> anybody know how I run manual tests for  unity-team-ppa ?
[23:44] <codepal> message box on my screen told me I should...
[23:45] <codepal> but, I don't know how
[23:56] <Q-FUNK> LTS -> LTS+1:  plymouth appears with the text loader, instead of the logo.  Any clue what could cause this?