[02:25] RAOF: could you push gnome-shell through the oneiric-proposed new queue? [02:26] jbicha: No, I can't. I'm not an archive admin. === gord is now known as Guest42604 [02:27] Sorry. [02:27] ah, ok, I'll bug pitti about it, thanks === CharlieMike is now known as ayan [06:21] Good morning [06:22] jbicha: here now [06:23] jbicha: g-shell binNEWed [06:36] pitti: thanks [06:36] morning [07:03] good morning [07:04] hey didrocks, good morning [07:04] good morning pitti, how are you? [07:05] pitti: Good morning, Martin! [07:05] pitti: Maybe you know already, bug there are quite a few fresh duplicates of bug 843430 (which for some reason is private). The issue may be related to the the package stuff you worked with for l-s 0.62. [07:06] hey GunnarHj [07:06] didrocks: bit tired, but quite fine [07:06] office time ... [07:06] pitti: you didn't sleep well, [07:06] ? [07:07] yes, kept waking up for some reason [07:07] argh :/ [07:08] GunnarHj: hm, I didn't actually change any existing code, but I can have a look nevertheless [07:10] pitti: Great! I just had a close look, and haven't spotted what's causing it. [07:10] s/close/quick/ (I'm tired too) [07:11] GunnarHj: oh, that bug is already from last september [07:12] pitti: Yeah, but were there a lot of duplicates before recently? [07:13] (I can't access the bug.) [07:13] GunnarHj: I think that might happen if one of the trigger packages in pkg_depends is suddenly gone AWOL [07:13] broken apt cache, or what not [07:15] pitti: Ok. [07:15] pitti: So you think it's only special cases? [07:16] still, should be a trivial fix to just ignore the missing package [07:18] pitti: Is it something you can add to your list? So far I have kind of avoided the langpack side of l-s... [07:23] GunnarHj: yes, no problem [07:32] pitti: Ok, great! [08:09] * didrocks tries to reboot and hope to get a working nvidia driver :) [08:23] ^ hmm, not a good sign [08:28] rickspencer3: niiiice! http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html [08:29] hi pitti [08:29] that is nice [08:29] oth ... [08:29] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/? [08:29] :/ [08:30] yes, see #u-release [08:30] d-i can't find a kernel [08:31] pitti, I'm you all will sort it out and respin :) [08:32] rickspencer3: what makes me happy in exchange is https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-upgrade-lucid-desktop/ARCH=amd64,LTS=lts,PROFILE=ubuntu,label=upgrade-test/7/console [08:32] rickspencer3: the "system" config migration test works now, and 3 of 4 "user" migrations, too [08:33] sweet [08:33] pitti [08:33] thanks so much for that [08:33] I'm telling everyone at Canonical to upgrade next week [08:34] phew, finally get acceleration back! [08:34] (had to recompile the 285 package) [08:34] good morning rickspencer3 [08:34] hey didrocks, welcome back! that took longer than expected [08:34] hey didrocks [08:34] rickspencer3: hm, that failure might be from new apt :( [08:34] pitti: hey, I had to go over my other box to rebuild the package [08:34] pitti: interestingly, despite having session=ubuntu in my .dmrc, lightdm now insists on starting the gnome-shell session [08:35] not sure where lightdm is picking that up, and why *now* [08:36] nothing in /var/lib/lightdm/ [08:36] hm, I'm not 100% sure [08:37] didrocks: just checked accountsservice, apparently not there [08:37] I think that one is in .dmrc still [08:37] [+0,68s] DEBUG: Ignoring session /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop [08:38] ah, tryexec [08:38] "unity" doesn't exist? [08:38] yeah, as I downgraded from the hud ppa to the staging one [08:39] I bet the unity package with the wrapper didn't downgraded [08:39] ok, all look good then :) [08:40] I will need to fake having a higer version from the staging ppa I guess as most of people who will try unity 5.2 RC are the one who tried the hud I guess [08:42] ok, downgraded unity, restarting on the right session [08:43] good morning everyone [08:44] hey chrisccoulson [08:44] ooh, alioth is back [08:44] hi pitti, how are you? [08:44] bit tired today, but fine otherwise [08:47] tkamppeter: I merged the cups/cups-filters diversions, and pushed; now alioth's bzr has the definitive branches again [08:49] hmmm, are we keeping the theme broken for alpha 2? [08:49] broken how? [08:50] it's not supposed to be broken [08:50] rickspencer3 would have started an insurrection on that :) [08:50] (and quite rightly so) [08:51] pitti, OK, thanks. [08:52] pitti - have you seen the breadcrumb in nautilus, or the toolbar in evince when you have a document open? [08:52] hi pitti [08:52] it's visibly quite broken, and has been for a while now ;) [08:52] insurrection? [08:53] * rickspencer3 pricks ears [08:53] heh [08:53] chrisccoulson: you mean the arrows look weird? [08:54] evince toolbar looks alright here [08:54] pitti - the buttons are the wrong colour and the text is barely readable in nautilus [08:54] i wonder if it's already fixed and i just haven't updated yet ;) [08:55] chrisccoulson: http://imagebin.org/196490 [08:56] doesn't look so bad here [08:56] as I said, the arrow is a little weird [08:56] pitti - oh, you're using radiance :) [08:56] it's pretty hideous with the ambiance theme [08:56] oh, right [08:56] I keep forgetting that there are people using dark themes [08:57] pitti - http://imagebin.org/196491 [08:57] already warned Cimi about it (2 weeks ago) [08:57] eww [08:59] pitti - evince is even worse: http://imagebin.org/196492 [08:59] look at the page count :( [08:59] do we have a bug about that? [08:59] it's not even on the RC radar [08:59] didrocks probably knows that [09:01] oh, i feel really bad now: http://www.chriscoulson.me.uk/blog/?p=100#comment-425297807 [09:02] i didn't realize we had non-ubuntu users using that PPA ;) [09:03] heh === Guest42604 is now known as gord [09:09] hey [09:09] bonjour seb128 [09:09] hey pitti, wie gehts? [09:11] seb128: quite alright, although a bit tired today [09:11] argh, and need to send out the reminder [09:11] pitti, didn't sleep well? [09:11] yeah, it's reminder day! [09:11] not particularly [09:12] chrisccoulson: you still getting the 'mouse scrolls too far' thing? have you filed a bug? [09:12] I can't find in my log back the nautilus theme issue [09:13] I think that I discussed with seb128 (salut!) about it [09:13] lut didrocks [09:13] what issue? [09:13] seb128: the nautilus breadcrumb theme issue [09:14] 917830 [09:14] popey, i'll report a bug in a bit [09:15] i'm not sure where to report it yet though :) [09:15] RAOF, any ideas where to report that? (the erratic scrolling issue) [09:24] seb128, do you want to try sending another firefox crash report when you get a chance? :-) [09:24] (hopefully it will work properly this time) [09:28] chrisccoulson, hey, ok, will do in a bit [09:33] after an upgrade I have no indicators anymore, is it a known bug? [09:35] seb128, never mind, i just found a working report from lucid i386: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/f9e0adea-ba13-4643-aa26-cecb52120131 \o/ [09:40] chrisccoulson, great ;-) [09:40] tjaalton, no, what did you upgrade? [09:43] seb128: precise->precise, no dist-upgrade [09:43] indicators are installed, only telepathy-indicator running [09:45] tjaalton, what desktop environment? [09:45] unity [09:45] 3d [09:45] 3d? [09:45] hum [09:45] can you add your .xsession-errors to pastebin or somewhere? [09:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/823637 [09:46] g-s-d crashes [09:47] tjaalton, dpkg -l | grep unity [09:48] seb128: ok.. I have some stuff from the ppa it seems [09:48] I disabled the ppa before the latest upgrade though, I need to revert these to the archive versions and see if it helps [09:49] tjaalton, can you pastebin your versions? [09:49] it's a mess :) [09:49] but yeah [09:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/823644 [09:54] tjaalton, update "unity" to the ppa version [09:54] it's weird that you got all the others updated but not it [09:55] they got held up [09:55] why? [09:55] some transition [09:56] I'll just go back to 5.0.0 [09:59] yep, things work now.. [10:01] tjaalton, the ppa version works ok if you want to try it [10:01] I've it installed since yesterday [10:01] hello everyone [10:01] hey ricotz, how are you? [10:01] pitti, hi, is udisk2 suppose to run fine in parallel with udisk? [10:01] ricotz, it is [10:02] seb128, hey, i am fine, thanks [10:02] ca va? [10:02] pitti, btw desrt played with udisk2 from the ppa yesterday and said it was working fine for him [10:02] ricotz, ca va bien merci ;-) [10:02] seb128, good, i might give it a try then [10:04] seb128, looks like there is nothing blocking nautilus while having gvfs already updated [10:04] seb128: I'll keep moving parts to a minimum the next few days, testing other stuff :) [10:04] ricotz, right, I'm meant to review jbicha's update, he's having some issues with the unity desktop menu patch it seems [10:05] i see, it looks normal here with g-s [10:05] oh btw, totem needs to drop the build-dep on libmusicbrainz4-dev, the functionality got dropped in 1.3.0.. (and wouldn't work anyway) [10:05] fixes bug 793929 [10:05] Launchpad bug 793929 in libmusicbrainz-2.1 "Deprecate libmusicbrainz-2.1, libtunepimp" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793929 [10:09] ricotz: yes, it is [10:09] seb128: i got a mail from desrt, he seems to have some problems with dbus activation [10:09] I'll reply to him (works fine here) [10:09] tjaalton, feel free to do the change if you want ;-) [10:09] chrisccoulson: As always, start with “ubuntu-bug xorg” ☺. Then we should send it to Chase. [10:09] pitti, ok [10:10] seb128: eww, bzr ;) [10:10] lol [10:10] bah, 2.5 hours of IRC and email, vs. 25 minutes of real work today [10:10] tjaalton, get, commit, push, how hard is it ;-) [10:10] * pitti finally preps the meeting page and reminder [10:11] pitti, btw the GNOME guys rolled new glib,gtk, but I guess better to delay to after a2 now? [10:11] seb128: yes, I think so; but we can already prep it in bzr, and upload to our PPA? [10:11] pitti, yeah, I will do that [10:12] migth be good to give it a day or two of testing anyway [10:14] pitti, right, especially that they did change to the format and parser of the gmenu stuff [10:14] ok, only one game use that in precise, but still [10:16] seb128: can't push [10:16] oh right [10:16] http transport [10:17] apt-get source said to just do "bzr branch foo", and then you can't push from that [10:18] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-precise-alpha-2.html [10:18] almost there, folks! [10:20] pitti, ;-) [10:22] the rest is not worrying and can easily move to b1 [10:23] pitti, ok, crossing fingers then to install udisk2 ;) [10:25] ricotz: it won't do anything by itself [10:25] ricotz: you need gvfs from trunk, or the latest gnome-disk-utility to make it do anything [10:27] pitti, yes, with gdu [10:27] ricotz: desrt says that it starts up fine, but launching jobs is broken when it's dbus activated [10:28] it does set $PATH at start, though, haven't looked what's wrong yet [10:29] alright, thanks for the heads up [10:44] seb128: ha, got it. pushing totem to precise now.. [10:45] tjaalton, thanks [10:46] also, I've packaged libmusicbrainz 4.0.0, and there's support for it in sound-juicer git (dunno if they cut a release). I'd love to have support for the MB XML/2 API in precise, but is anyone really looking after sound-juicer or am I free to work on it? [11:02] tkamppeter: sound-juicer is fair game [11:02] sorry, tjaalton ^ [11:02] tjaalton: it's in universe, it doesn't have a particular maintainer [11:02] it's 2.32, so any more recent version can only make things better :) [11:06] tjaalton, it's all yours ;-) [11:08] seb128, pitti: whee, cool :) [11:08] hope I can update it before FF === greyback is now known as greyback|away [11:38] Anyone knows how to send Ctrl+Alt+F1 to a VirtualBox instance? [11:42] RainCT, try right-ctrl_f1 [11:42] i.e the ctrl on the right of the keyboard and f1 [11:45] seb128: works. thanks :) [11:45] RainCT, yw [11:52] hey chrisccoulson , what is the name of hte firefox plugin that lets me run other plugins on aurora? still not a fan of the firefox disabling all my plugins :) [11:53] jasoncwarner_, the addon compatibility reporter? it shouldn't be disabling them on aurora now though, unless they really are incompatible [11:53] which ones are getting disabled? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === greyback|away is now known as greyback [12:17] aloha [12:17] anyone running 10.04 and seeing any issues with a firefox update today ? [12:17] 10:33 < slashtommy> Firefox (10.04 LTS) was updated yesterday for some bizarre reason, tis now broke - i need an urgent fix [12:19] chrisccoulson: ping? [12:21] czajkowski, can you be more specific? :) [12:24] chrisccoulson: trying to get the details form the guy in -ie [12:24] * ebel knows a little of this bug [12:24] apparently FF is offering to download & save, rather than display a .aspx URL [12:25] it's an internal webpage, so not accessible to you & me [12:25] chrisccoulson: meet ebel [12:25] that's because your internal webpage is doing silly things with UA sniffing, and offering the wrong content [12:25] we've already "fixed" it in ff10 by changing the order of 2 elements in the UA string [12:27] i have no idea what the HTTP headers/mime type/content disposition are. Apparently it only just started happening recently, however this machine might not have been updated recently === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:28] is this ff10 fix available to ubuntu lucid (10.04)? [12:28] ebel, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-beta.lucid/revision/749 [12:28] yes, you can get the RC builds from [12:29] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa [12:30] chrisccoulson: thank you [12:32] ebel, bug 897794 is the bug [12:32] Launchpad bug 897794 in firefox "Firefox 8 User Agent String "Ubuntu;" addition causes attempt to download rather than display" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897794 [13:06] RainCT: hey [13:06] didrocks: Hey :) [13:06] RainCT: I'm upgrading the activity-log-manager package to the vala version [13:06] RainCT: it's now in LGPL2+ [13:07] RainCT: for consistency and simplicity, it would be nice to have the packaging with the same licence [13:07] you put GPL2+ :) [13:08] didrocks: sure, you can consider all my packaging stuff as BSD :p [13:08] RainCT: better that being said! Thanks a lot :) [13:09] didrocks: No problem. Can you commit the changes to bzr when you're done? [13:10] RainCT: sure === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:46] pitti, so, you said that it would be easy to find the task a package is part of [13:46] pitti, I couldn't figure out how to do that, do you mind giving me a light? :) [13:47] Ursinha: hey [13:47] ah [13:47] Ursinha: you mean if a package is part of the ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu/etc. default install? [13:48] pitti, yes [13:48] Ursinha: the one I know is "apt-cache show gedit" [13:48] that e. g. says [13:48] Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb, ubuntustudio-desktop [13:48] I was messing around with seeds and tasks yesterday to find a way to do that programatically [13:48] i. e. it's part of ubuntu/edubuntu/studio default install, but e. g. not Kubuntu [13:48] ah, I thought you mean programatically [13:49] Ursinha: that is "programatically", isn't it? [13:49] Ursinha: you can also have a list of packages which are on a particular flavour's default install [13:49] pitti, hehe, you're right, I meant a way of getting it using launchpad or something [13:49] e. g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest [13:49] pitti, there are the seeds as well [13:50] Ursinha: right, seeds are the top-level packages that we want [13:50] pitti, like this: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.precise/desktop [13:50] germinate output, that is [13:52] Ursinha: there is a desktop.depends output, too, which should have the dependencies [13:52] Ursinha: perhaps it's better if you can tell me the acutal question you'd like to solve? [13:53] pitti, finding the important packages for desktop/server/name it [13:53] pitti, I'm asking you only because you mentioned that was easy, and I thought it might be related to launchpad in some way [13:53] Ursinha: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.precise/desktop.depends is a fairly good list for desktop [13:53] but as it's not, I'll keep doing what I'm doing: looking other sources [13:53] server has the equivalent [13:54] right, thanks for the pointer [14:06] mterry: hey, how are you? [14:06] didrocks, hi, good [14:07] mterry: I have a small question because I think you added that to gnome-activity-journal: [14:07] if HAVE_CCPANEL [14:07] sed -i "s/^Categories=.*/\0\n\nNotShowIn=$(shell grep OnlyShowIn $(srcdir)/alm-ccpanel.desktop.in | cut -d= -f2)/" $@ [14:07] endif [14:07] for the .desktop file [14:07] what was it intended to do? [14:08] didrocks, no, manish added that because something similar was in deja-dup's Makefile.am. I talked to him yesterday, and I believe he dropped those lines. [14:08] mterry: hum, I bzr pull like an hour ago :) [14:08] didrocks: wait. Let me push [14:08] if i havnt [14:08] didrocks, he maybe didn't push his changes [14:08] manish: oh! :) [14:09] manish, where is the reference vcs for your work? [14:09] lp:~activity-log-manager/activity-log-manager/vala-gcc ? [14:10] seb128: didrocks mterry here lp:~activity-log-manager/activity-log-manager/vala [14:10] manish: also, you probably want: lp:~didrocks/activity-log-manager/fix-potfiles.in [14:10] that is a branch [14:10] if it's not in this branch :) [14:10] thanks manish, packaging that for now [14:10] thanks mterry for the pointer :) [14:10] seb128: that was a branch of that branch when I was working on g-c-c integration [14:11] manish: can you add the include and push it there? [14:11] yes, doing [14:11] thanks :) [14:11] manish, ok, that's the one you mentioned on the channel yesterday so I was unsur [14:11] yes. [14:13] didrocks: two things are left in this work. i18n and treeview improvements [14:13] treeview is magic, so it might take a few ays [14:13] *days [14:14] manish: no worry, we are frozen right now for alpha2 anyway. I'm just getting a packaging prepared :) [14:14] didrocks: done pushing. pull [14:14] manish: thanks, doing :) [14:15] uploading it to a PPA would also help, so that people on oneiric can also test it out [14:15] manish: does it dep on zg 0.9? === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha_ === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [14:16] didrocks, upload to the ubuntu-desktop ppa, give us the crack :p [14:17] can for precise, need to do on zg req. for oneiric :p [14:18] oneiric users don't want the crack, they would run precise otherwise ;-) [14:19] it appears in g-c-c \o/ [14:19] (but yeah, a lot of gtktreeview warning :)) [14:20] didrocks: nope, it works on oneiric [14:20] didrocks: yes. It is painful. Still working on it. [14:20] manish: so zg 0.8 is fine? [14:20] I am still on oneiric and using the python zeitgeist on this laptop [14:20] yes [14:20] manish: looks good for a first draft :) [14:21] * didrocks sees he's not the only one having a graphical issue on the first tab on the notebook :) [14:21] even I have [14:21] those lines [14:21] treeview is very difficult to get right. I am hoping seiflotfy gets time to work [14:28] hum, you are install the copyright, install files in /usr/doc. I'll have a look to fix that [14:30] didrocks: there arn't much info in copyright, install etc help files [14:31] manish: yeah, they are just install in the wrong dir, I'll fix it :) [14:31] keep a downstream patch for now [14:31] manish: oh, you don't want a merge proposal for it? [14:31] didrocks: NOOOOOOO [14:31] I didn't mean that [14:32] I just mean I am travelling tomorrow for 2 days [14:32] manish: no hurry! yeah, I'm workaround it in the package for now :) [14:32] so won't be able to merge what you send for next 2 days, in which case you need to ping seiflotfy for it [14:32] manish: will send your way a merge proposal when I've time to look at what's wrong :) [14:32] sure [14:45] stgraber, heyo. unity-greeter trunk uses gsettings [14:46] mterry: yeah! [14:46] mterry: let me know before it lands so I schedule some time to update edubuntu-artwork to use gsettings instead of our ugly hack ;) [14:46] seb128, I was wondering, is there any rational why .la files are still shipped into packages? [14:47] they are not [14:47] stgraber, OK, don't know exactly when it will land though. robert-ancell will probably push that in [14:47] or they are progressively being dropped but transitioning takes a bit of time [14:47] seb128, ah ok [14:47] thanks [14:47] stgraber, it wouldn't hurt to update edubuntu-artwork ahead of time. [14:48] (and have it do both until unity-greeter 0.2.1 is released) [14:53] mterry, hey [14:53] seb128, hello! [14:53] mterry, I think you should email robert_ancell and tell him you can handle the unity-greeter release and want to do one [14:54] mterry, he's soon going to be off for some time so maybe it's better if he hands that to you before being away [14:54] Ah, OK [14:59] mterry: indeed === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:03] akgraner: hello, welcome to u-desktop! [15:03] hey! [15:03] hey akgraner :) [15:03] didrocks, akgraner: so, I wondered about the tools we used to test the last unity round, and whether they need some more promotion [15:03] hey didrocks :-) [15:04] along the currently outstanding work item [15:04] if that's obsolete, I'm happy to just drop it, as I understand our QA team will do some announcement soon [15:04] yeah, first, akgraner, are you familar with this testing tool? (I blogged about it for the unity 5.0 RC on planet ubuntu) [15:04] I know at UDS we talked about leveraging more community testing of Unity [15:04] it's basically a followup on the UDS session we had [15:04] right [15:05] I saw the blog post..yes [15:05] since, I experimented with the french community a first round for unity 5.0 [15:05] and then published the results [15:05] we are about doing the same in unity 5.2 (just sent an email, you in CC about it) [15:05] that looked like it went well [15:05] yeah, we of course refined some tests wording [15:06] and made some changes to checkbox [15:06] basically, we are wrapping around checkbox [15:06] gotcha - how many more testers would you like to have (realistically) [15:06] akgraner: there are two things in fact [15:06] ah, so we have checkbox plugisn for that? [15:07] (in a PPA, I presume) [15:07] - testers, I think that in 2/3 days of testing, 100 people is enough (I see that is easy to achieve at first, but will be more and more difficult with repeating this at each unity release) [15:07] didrocks, since you are wrapping it around checkbox doesit overlap with ubuntu friendly testing at all? [15:07] pitti: we have a checkbox-unity wrapper, basically a plugin with other tests [15:08] pitti: and we have a fork of checkbox until the fixes goes into the distro (but reviewing seems to take time) [15:08] s/doesit/does it [15:08] akgraner: no, apart from the patch in the checkbox copy we have, but we try to not make breaking the system checkbox [15:08] so it should be fine for them [15:09] the ppa containing this checkbox and checkbox-unity is the ppa we are making unity testable: https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/ppa [15:09] perfect [15:10] I just uploaded the version with the new "RC tag", so people using that ppa will see at next login "a new Unity RC is available, can you please…" and the icon is added to the launcher [15:10] so how does this sound - I'll install the the ppa and run through the test, then I'll tell people how they can do it - then I'll send my post to you to see if any additional details need to be added [15:10] so, testers needed (and nicholas, the new qa responsible for the community team, will handle the call) [15:10] if not I'll post to the fridge and then cross post in other places [15:11] akgraner: that would be awesome, the more testers to ensure everything is fine, the better :) [15:11]