[17:33] <jibel> did something change with username preseeding in ubiquity (2.9.15 or 2.9.14 ) ?
[17:34] <jibel> could it be the change in casper 1.302 ?
[17:35] <jibel> since today, automatic ubiquity with preseeding stops at 'who are you'
[17:37] <cjwatson> casper's more likely, but hmm
[17:37] <cjwatson> is there a bug for this?
[17:38] <jibel> no, I just found it.
[17:38] <jibel> I'll file one
[17:52] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: I am seeing a crash with /usr/lib/ubiquity/panel, but I can't file a bug with apport as this gets uninstalled before the user login (and apport) is available.
[18:12] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: I don't really know much about that code
[18:12] <cjwatson> ev wrote it
[18:13] <ev> GrueMaster: you should be able to file a bug against it just fine as it crashes. apport should be available in the live system.
[18:13] <GrueMaster> Ok.  I can't file a bug with the crash report properly as the package is uninstalled.  Reinstalling the package doesn't seem to help.
[18:13] <ev> if it's not, that's a problem with your seed
[18:13]  * antarus hates apport ;p
[18:13] <GrueMaster> oem-config-remove removes the package prior to user login.
[18:14] <GrueMaster> It is during this stage that the bug happens I think.
[18:15] <ev> oem-config-remove just removes ubiquity.
[18:16] <ev> oh
[18:16] <ev> I see what you're saying
[18:16] <ev> apols, multitasking
[18:16] <ogra_> heh
[18:16] <GrueMaster> ev: you and me both.
[18:16] <GrueMaster> Gah. 7 conversations and 5 milestone installations currently going on. Hard to keep focus.
[18:16] <ev> GrueMaster: do you have a file in /var/crash for this?
[18:17] <GrueMaster> yes
[18:19] <ev> so installing ubiquity-frontend-gtk should let you file that. Are you saying that even with that package installed apport is complaining?
[18:19] <ev> if so, what's the error message?
[18:20] <GrueMaster> Reinstalling that package, apport now says the program has changed since the crash.
[18:20] <ev> what's the exact error message?
[18:22] <GrueMaster> The apport error?  "The problem cannot be reported.  The problem happened with the program /usr/lib/ubiquity/panel which changed since then."
[18:23] <GrueMaster> The crash file doesn't have much info, other than a Signal 11 and then a crash dump.
[18:24] <GrueMaster> Is there a way to break open a crash file?
[18:24] <ev> apport-retrace
[18:25] <GrueMaster> Heh, I don't think that has existed on arm for a few releases.
[18:26] <GrueMaster> I'll install it and see what I can do.
[18:26] <ev> well, you could always install the debug symbols by hand
[18:26] <ev> use apport-unpack to split apart the crash report
[18:26] <ev> and manually generate a backtrace with the core file
[18:30] <GrueMaster> Joy.
[18:33] <ev> gotta run
[18:34] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, Any plans to update to live-build ~a35 or newer in 12.04?
[18:49] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: not right now, but maybe if given a reason :)
[18:50] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, We're interested in http://live.debian.net/gitweb?p=live-build.git;a=commitdiff;h=d90c311ef937a95ead004142c1d0740eca313a0a
[18:50] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, and we're also interested in getting us using the same version of live-build as shipped in Ubuntu.
[18:51] <cjwatson> sure, I can probably have a look after a2.