| dholbach | good morning | 08:08 |
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| locodir-user | hi | 10:55 |
| mhall119 | morning | 13:11 |
| paultag | morning mhall119 | 15:03 |
| mhall119 | morning paultag | 15:06 |
| paultag | mhall119: what's new? | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | paultag: so I got a ping yesterday from davidcalle, pointing me at your blog about your politics api, for reference in making a politics lens :) | 15:07 |
| paultag | mhall119: sounds like it is a good idea :) | 15:08 |
| mhall119 | heh | 15:08 |
| paultag | mhall119: what didja tell him? | 15:08 |
| mhall119 | he wasn't online anymore by the time I got up this morning | 15:08 |
| mhall119 | paultag: once he's online I plan to tell him that you're already working on it ;) | 15:10 |
| paultag | mhall119: we * :) | 15:10 |
| paultag | I don't use unity, I'm happy to help, but I can't test or debug it to a good extent ;) | 15:10 |
| mhall119 | UDW is started in #ubuntu-classrom! | 15:10 |
| mhall119 | paultag: you should make a Fluxbox lens then | 15:10 |
| mhall119 | :P | 15:11 |
| paultag | mhall119: it'd not be that hard with the new compositing stuff | 15:11 |
| mhall119 | heh, I can see it now, Flunity | 15:11 |
| paultag | I prefer my window manager isn't 10 seconds behind my keyboard ;) | 15:11 |
| mhall119 | that was 11.04 | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | even 11.10 was only a couple of seconds behind | 15:12 |
| paultag | mhall119: I'll stick with Fluxbox or Awesome / xmonad, thanks :) | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | and 12.04 is shaping up to be nearly instant | 15:12 |
| paultag | Unity's such a shame :) | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | s/shame/awesome// | 15:13 |
| paultag | hahaha | 15:14 |
| mhall119 | I can't go back to Gnome2 or even 3 | 15:14 |
| paultag | nor I, because GNOME3's just as bad | 15:14 |
| paultag | it gets in my way so much | 15:14 |
| mhall119 | the keyboard navigation on Unity is better than anything else I've used | 15:14 |
| paultag | mhall119: have you used awesome or xmonad? | 15:14 |
| paultag | mhall119: try that, then tell me that ;) | 15:14 |
| mhall119 | no, I'm not an elite hacker like you, remember? | 15:14 |
| Atlantic777 | I'm using awesome on desktop and unity on netbook, unity is powerfull but not as powerfull as awesome is. (for mouseless usage) | 15:19 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: truth. | 15:19 |
| paultag | It almost is enough for me to want to work tiling into fluxbox | 15:19 |
| Atlantic777 | paultag: there is some plugin... pytilling or something | 15:20 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: that's on top of fluxbox | 15:20 |
| Atlantic777 | I havn't tryied it yet... | 15:20 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: sending EWMH hints to fluxbox on how to lay it out | 15:20 |
| paultag | flux has no tiling in it :) | 15:20 |
| paultag | I guess just EWMH to fluxbox :) | 15:20 |
| paultag | no such thing as a hint hint :) | 15:21 |
| Atlantic777 | sorry, it seems that your more into that topic than me :D | 15:21 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: I'm paultag@fluxbox.org ;) | 15:21 |
| paultag | I'm required by law to be into it | 15:21 |
| Atlantic777 | lol :D | 15:21 |
| paultag | but yeah, awesome is frankly, pretty great | 15:22 |
| paultag | not awesome yet, I'm still warming up to it | 15:22 |
| paultag | but pretty great, for sure. | 15:22 |
| Atlantic777 | Well hope that you're the right person to ask, why fluxbox is bugging me with slow moving of windows (opaque on) :P | 15:24 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: do you have a gaming mouse? | 15:24 |
| Atlantic777 | paultag: no | 15:24 |
| paultag | alright, that is the most popular reason why it's laggy :) | 15:25 |
| Atlantic777 | btw, that's on gentoo... | 15:25 |
| Atlantic777 | let's move to #fluxbox | 15:25 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: with opaque on, it doens't freeze the process / render, so it really bogs down the action - it's all single threaded right now (and for the foreseeable future), it's actually the same reason with opaque off, music players will stop playing music | 15:25 |
| paultag | Atlantic777: yeah, let's :) | 15:25 |
| paultag | I've not found a good threading solution that will work on [UNIX|BSD|Linux|Solaris|Hurd|*] | 15:26 |
| paultag | nor has anyone else involved ;) | 15:26 |
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| paultag | hey mhall119 | 18:34 |
| paultag | mhall119: can you tell some of the design folks ( I can't get at them because I'm not @canonical, gah ) - that some of us have multi-monitor setups with a rotated secondary to be length-wise? | 18:35 |
| paultag | mhall119: if they're drawing up a spec, I'd like for that to be in there | 18:35 |
| paultag | since lightdm barfs on it currently | 18:35 |
| paultag | unless I put it in my x conf, but then I can't use my secondary normal-ways at home | 18:35 |
| mhall119 | paultag: you can tell them in #ubuntu-design and #ubuntu-unity | 18:41 |
| mhall119 | but seriously, have have a monitor in rotated to portrait? | 18:42 |
| paultag | mhall119: if code I write is no longer then 80 lines (because it should be), then what's the point of all the extra to the left and right? | 18:43 |
| paultag | mhall119: I can look at whole files at once, rather then chunks, also docs look better | 18:43 |
| paultag | if I design a site, I can pivot i back | 18:43 |
| paultag | it * | 18:43 |
| paultag | it works much better when programming | 18:43 |
| mhall119 | nobody uses hardware vt100 terminals anymore, there's no need to limit to 80 colums | 18:44 |
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| paultag | mhall119: it's a line max, having huge lines isn't great for readability. Plus, that 80 line thing comes from punchcards, not VTs | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: if I see lines longer then 80, it bugs me and I think less of the author :) | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | if I see lines limited to 80 columns I see old people with punch cards | 18:45 |
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| paultag | mhall119: the problem with that is that I can write code without any newlines, and it'd be valid and fine, but it'd be hard to read - by going past 80 lines (which is a lot), I think of lazy programming, and people ditching readability | 18:47 |
| mhall119 | you should use Perl then, it's equally readable above 80 columns | 18:48 |
| paultag | mhall119: anyway, it looks great on this setup | 18:52 |
| mhall119 | lightdm looks great? | 18:54 |
| paultag | nah, code | 18:54 |
| paultag | lightdm, as I put it - looks like garbage | 18:54 |
| mhall119 | paultag: definely post your bug number (you *do* have one, right?) into #ubuntu-design and/or #ubuntu-unity (even though it's not technically unity) | 18:57 |
| paultag | mhall119: hell no I don't have a bug :) | 18:58 |
| paultag | mhall119: it'll be ignored until someone either expires it, or says test against the latest beta | 18:58 |
| mhall119 | if there's no bug report, the problem doesn't exist :P | 18:58 |
| paultag | I've become jaded at the bug report process in launchpad | 18:58 |
| mhall119 | new meme: Bug report or it didn't happen | 18:58 |
| paultag | there's way too much static | 18:58 |
| mhall119 | paultag: hence the reason I said to bring it up in one of those channels | 18:59 |
| paultag | I still have -control, I'll just mark it critical | 18:59 |
| paultag | :) | 18:59 |
| mhall119 | paultag: I can't condone that | 18:59 |
| paultag | breaks unrelated software | 18:59 |
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