| Atamira | where in nz? | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| codepal | Northland, Dargaville | 00:50 |
| codepal | small town with a big SeniorNet group | 00:50 |
| codepal | my mum is treasurer | 00:51 |
| codepal | & hi Atamira o/ - hope you and yours are well? | 00:51 |
| Atamira | afternoon codepal . all good this end thanks | 00:53 |
| Atamira | i know where dargaville is. | 00:53 |
| Atamira | im in auckland | 00:53 |
| Atamira | how you and yours are well too | 00:54 |
| codepal | excell, well - I'm wanting to do this fairly professionally - so I'll probably be taking some LIVE CD's along.... | 00:55 |
| codepal | I haven't really thought out the basics of it yet, but I'm keen to help people realise that the world isn't just Microsoft's. | 00:55 |
| codepal | or Google's for that matter... | 00:55 |
| Atamira | theres other other than google? | 00:56 |
| Atamira | oops | 00:56 |
| Atamira | theres something other than google* | 00:56 |
| ojwb | don't let them hear you ask that | 00:58 |
| Atamira | heh | 00:59 |
| codepal | are most of the people here members of NZ loco ? | 01:19 |
| lifeless | loco membership can be a bit vague :) | 01:20 |
| lifeless | I'm on the list, for instance. | 01:20 |
| ojwb | it's not the liveliest list | 01:20 |
| ojwb | or else I've fallen off | 01:20 |
| codepal | so, polling for response around the room - what do you think of the idea of trying to get SeniorNet's members interested in FOSS? | 01:21 |
| codepal | or Ubuntu in particular. | 01:21 |
| lifeless | whats a SeniorNet ? | 01:21 |
| ojwb | i don't know what seniornet is, but getting people interested is good | 01:21 |
| codepal | http://www.seniornet.co.nz/ | 01:22 |
| codepal | it's a group where training on Microsoft's money sucking apps happens, mostly | 01:22 |
| codepal | for people aged 50+ | 01:23 |
| * ojwb wonders how they'll find the ubuntu ui churn | 01:23 | |
| Atamira | so long as it does what they want it to do | 01:23 |
| ojwb | microsoft's ui churn seems to baffle my and my partner's parents | 01:23 |
| codepal | What I'd love to see is for each SeniorNet area, a representative of Ubuntu offer training... | 01:24 |
| codepal | for a charge maybe / idk how that would work. | 01:24 |
| codepal | SeniorNet is pretty established in NZ - imo | 01:24 |
| codepal | so it's a good user base to hit with FOSS | 01:24 |
| ojwb | yeah, it seems a good idea | 01:25 |
| codepal | do I need to write up a blueprint? | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | though there'a not really any representative, except people who might be interested & know a bit about ubuntu | 01:25 |
| codepal | or what's the best next step? | 01:25 |
| ojwb | probably to find people local enough who are happy to do it | 01:26 |
| ojwb | the loco list is probably worth a try | 01:26 |
| ojwb | and/or local LUG is there is one | 01:26 |
| codepal | no, I expect that people would step up to the plate for ubuntu and ask to get a meeting with SeniorNet's local person in charge. | 01:26 |
| codepal | ojwb, you mean SeniorNet people / Ubuntu fans? | 01:27 |
| ojwb | the latter | 01:27 |
| codepal | well, mum's helping me in my area, so I've got a step in the door already | 01:28 |
| codepal | but it may be harder for other Ubuntu fans to approach the right SeniorNet people in their area | 01:28 |
| codepal | I might be able to help with that too though... | 01:28 |
| codepal | I'll talk to mum | 01:28 |
| ojwb | hmm, I see what you mean - might help if it's already happening somewhere | 01:29 |
| codepal | I guess I'll be developing the template of what to present to a SeniorNet meeting.... | 01:29 |
| codepal | that's where I'd really like help with ideas | 01:30 |
| ojwb | Iafraid | 01:31 |
| ojwb | gah | 01:31 |
| ojwb | I'm afraid I really need to get on with something right now, but happy to talk later | 01:31 |
| mwhudson | a pox on courier companies whose 0800 number does not accept calls from mobiles | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | happy mailman day | 19:29 |
| ojwb | morning | 19:30 |
| mwhudson | morning | 20:04 |
| hads_ | morning | 20:23 |
| === hads_ is now known as hads | ||
| hads | Huh. Just got a duplicate key on a DB column which is sha1(time() * random()) | 20:27 |
| ojwb | step 2, profit! | 20:27 |
| kcj | No. Step 2, ???? Step 3, profit! | 20:29 |
| kcj | Also, morning. | 20:29 |
| ojwb | it's my new accelerated process | 20:29 |
| kcj | Only Warren Buffett knows step 2. | 20:30 |
| mwhudson | can random() return 0? | 20:40 |
| hads | I don't think so | 20:44 |
| hads | It appears it can. | 20:45 |
| hads | Good point. | 20:46 |
| * ojwb hands hads an xor | 21:12 | |
| ojwb | or perhaps shift and or if you've got the width | 21:13 |
| lifeless | hads: time() * random() isn't terribly unique - str(time()) + '-' + str(random()) - that should fare better | 22:32 |
| hads | lifeless: Yes I've come to realise this. That's a much better idea. | 22:38 |
| hads | Thanks. | 22:40 |
| hads | Not sure how that one slipped through back in the day. | 22:41 |
| lifeless | 'brainfart' :P | 22:46 |
| mwhudson | makes me think of http://bugs.python.org/msg91073 | 23:28 |
| mwhudson | i had more fun writing that bug report than any other i can think of :-) | 23:29 |
| lifeless | aieee | 23:57 |
| lifeless | and not landed yet | 23:57 |
| lifeless | wtf | 23:57 |
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