[00:11] <mdeslaur> petko: if you use "update-manager -d", it will offer to update to precise
[00:16] <petko> thanks , and it will update to alpha 1 or the daily release ? and I want to ask - is the latest release usable for a main OS (I mean do you encaunter too many crashes )
[09:00] <alourie> good morning
[10:06] <brendand> jibel - alpha2 started yet?
[10:51] <Daviey> Hey gema, are you around?
[10:52] <gema> Daviey: interview in 5 mins
[10:52] <gema> Daviey: preparing for it as we speak
[10:53] <Daviey> gema: Okay, can you give me a hola when you have a few mins - want to talk about 10.04.4 release prep.
[10:53] <gema> Daviey: ack
[11:39] <brendand> jibel, gema - are we aware the desktop installer is currently failing?
[11:39] <brendand> wait, maybe not
[11:40] <brendand> i got something about 'attempt to configure packages failed' at the end, but it looks like it finished ok
[11:45] <brendand> hrrrm. not booting now
[12:16] <andymc73test> quit
[12:22] <andymc73test> \quit
[12:34] <jibel> brendand, all the images are failing. that's bug 924182
[12:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924182 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "d-i images (server, alternate) failed to install: no kernels found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924182
[13:11] <gema> Daviey: hola
[13:12] <Daviey> gema: wow, that was a long interview... you are a real hardy!
[13:12] <gema> Daviey: that was interview + finishing off other stuff + lunch x)
[13:13] <Daviey> yeah right
[13:13] <Daviey> gema: right, so 12.03.4 is due out on the
[13:13] <gema> you said when you have a few mins, not when you finish the interview :P
[13:13] <Daviey> 16th Feb
[13:13] <Daviey> Currently we are building the Lucid daily from lucid-proposed.
[13:13] <gema> Daviey: yes
[13:14] <Daviey> At some point we need to swap to building from lucid-updates
[13:14] <Daviey> As you chaps are driving the QA for this point release.... it's your call when this happens, so it can be tested :)
[13:14] <Daviey> How long do you want/need?
[13:14] <gema> Daviey: all that we've done so far on this front is to start a lucid iso testing dashboard
[13:15] <gema> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Lucid%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/
[13:15] <gema> so I assume we are testing now from lucid-proposed, according to what you are saying
[13:15] <Daviey> gema: right, but not i386 or alt/server?
[13:15] <Daviey> Is that TODO?
[13:15] <Daviey> right
[13:15] <gema> Daviey: I am sure it is, patrick is working on this
[13:16] <gema> Daviey: but it is good that you explain this to me, as it was happening all on the background
[13:16] <Daviey> There will need to be an element of manual testing i think.
[13:16] <Daviey> heh
[13:16] <gema> Daviey: do you mean running the existing manual test cases that we run for all the other milestones?
[13:17] <Daviey> gema: So.. i don't need an answer right now.. but when you know, can you let me know how much time you need to beconfident of a QA run?
[13:17] <Daviey> So we can switch to building from lucid-updates.
[13:17] <gema> Daviey: I still don't understand the workflow, bear with me 4 more mins
[13:17] <Daviey> gema: Well the testing methodology is your teams call :).. I'd just be suprised if you automated it all, and be confident :)
[13:18] <gema> lucid-updates is the branch where you want to submitw what is currently in lucid-proposed, right?
[13:18] <gema> submit/push/younameit
[13:18] <Daviey> yes, so SRU's get uploaded to -proposed.. verified, then copied to -updates.
[13:19] <gema> Daviey: ok, understood
[13:19] <gema> what is the nature of the update, Daviey ?
[13:19] <Daviey> Currently we are building images from -proposed as a shortcut, i suppose..
[13:19] <gema> how big, so to speak
[13:19] <Daviey> about "this big'
[13:19] <Daviey> gema: it's not a huge leap TBH.
[13:20] <gema> so I assume it is just bug fixes not new functionality, right?
[13:20] <jibel> o/
[13:20] <gema> go for it, jibel
[13:20] <patdk-wk> is nothing available to test yet?
[13:21] <Daviey> gema: it's all the security and SRU updates in Lucid, since July 21st.
[13:21] <Daviey> last year
[13:21] <jibel> Daviey, pending SRUs for packages that goes into the image will be done early next week
[13:21] <gema> ok, Daviey gotcha, I will get some input from jibel and hggdh :)
[13:21] <jibel> Daviey, I'll review the images manually too
[13:22] <jibel> if it's ok then we can rely on the automated tests
[13:22] <gema> jibel: is patrick going to add more images to the dashboard?
[13:22] <Daviey> sounds good.. give me a hola when you know.
[13:22] <jibel> gema, we need them all
[13:22] <gema> jibel: ok
[13:22] <gema> will do Daviey !
[13:22] <Daviey> ta!
[13:22] <jibel> Daviey, but I won't start before A2 testing is over.
[13:22] <Daviey> jibel: you are slack. :)
[13:23] <absolutezero_> hello gues
[13:23] <absolutezero_> guys
[13:23] <absolutezero_> I've been following the mailing list for sometime
[13:24] <absolutezero_> & am currently downloading the iso with zsync
[13:24] <jibel> patdk-wk, nope, images are rebuilding
[13:24] <absolutezero_> what do you suggest to do as a beginner tester ?
[13:24] <patdk-wk> find something not done, and try to do it :)
[13:26] <absolutezero_> that's the idea ;) but is there any particular thing (not too hard for a beginner) ?
[13:27] <patdk-wk> that all depends on your skillset, that I don't know
[13:27] <gema> absolutezero_: you should join ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com and introduce yourself and your interest
[13:27] <gema> absolutezero_: maybe say why you want to do testing and how you think you can contribute better
[13:28] <gema> absolutezero_: then we can find one of the million tasks we have that suits your skillset and interest
[13:28] <gema> :D
[13:28] <gema> absolutezero_: but if you want to start with something intense this week, you could do some Alpha 2 testing
[13:28] <absolutezero_> gema: i already did a while ago. Im under Bob
[13:29] <gema> absolutezero_: did you manage to fix the problem with downloading isos?
[13:30] <gema> absolutezero_: is that working for you now?
[13:30] <absolutezero_> gema: yeh im using zsync but still hadn't fully downloaded the daily precide
[13:30] <absolutezero_> precise
[13:30] <absolutezero_> should do this later tonight
[13:30] <gema> ok
[13:31] <absolutezero_> gema: once i download it I'll install it in VM
[13:31] <gema> absolutezero_: then you could help trying to improve test cases, have a look at this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgtV30nnv18edFQzNVB4S2duOWNOT05zaHo3S0pNekE&hl=en_US#gid=0
[13:32] <gema> absolutezero_: we are rewriting the test cases from  the wiki to make them better
[13:32] <gema> absolutezero_: if you have a look at what has been done comments, etc
[13:32] <gema> absolutezero_: you may find some inspiration to fix some more
[13:33] <gema> absolutezero_: nick skaggs sent an email explaining how to do it
[13:33] <absolutezero_> ok great; i'll take a look & see what to do
[13:33] <gema> absolutezero_: on the 19/01 it is called Manual Testing Prepwork
[13:33] <gema> absolutezero_: cool, thanks!
[13:35] <absolutezero_> 19/01 ?
[13:36] <gema> yep , nick sent that email on the 19th of January, last week
[13:36] <gema> sorry, the week before last.. I lose track of time
[13:37] <absolutezero_> ok
[13:37] <absolutezero_> thx
[13:39] <absolutezero_> gema: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2012-January/001907.html (attachement ?)
[13:40] <gema> absolutezero_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/attachments/20120119/61ed6cc0/attachment.html
[13:40] <gema> absolutezero_: I can forward it to you if you want
[13:40] <absolutezero_> gema: yes plz
[13:41] <gema> absolutezero_: let me know when you get it
[13:41] <absolutezero_> got i
[13:41] <gema> cool!
[13:41] <absolutezero_> thx
[13:41] <gema> no prob
[13:41] <absolutezero_> i'll leave now; have a nice day
[13:44] <gema> you too
[14:29] <jibel> stgraber, I added alpha2 but do I need to create an initial build for each image or is the publication automated ?
[14:30] <jibel> for context i'm talking about the tracker :)
[14:30] <stgraber> jibel: the publication should be automated
[14:30] <stgraber> jibel: but someone on the cdimage build needs to update the config for them to appear at the right place
[14:32] <jibel> stgraber, ok, 20120131.2 is nowhere
[14:33] <stgraber> jibel: that's probably because daily was already off when it tried to publish and nobody updated the config to point to alpha2
[14:33] <jibel> stgraber, indeed. I'll add it manuall
[14:33] <jibel> y
[14:34] <stgraber> jibel: do you know if someone did the switch in the config?
[14:34] <jibel> stgraber, I don't know. and it is probably not done
[14:37] <stgraber> jibel: I'll get you a list of everything that failed to publish to the tracker
[14:37] <jibel> stgraber, nice, thansk
[14:39] <stgraber> jibel: hmm, actually you'll need to wait for the next sync of the logs to lillypilyy ;) there's nothing I can grab at this point
[14:50] <jibel> Ubuntu Server, alternate and desktop published to the tracker
[14:59] <jibel> stgraber, that's the list of available builds I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/823911/
[15:20] <jibel> stgraber, skaet builds published to the tracker
[15:21] <jibel> I'm lost in arm though
[15:21] <jibel> I'll be away for half an hour and will do arm when I'm back
[15:22] <stgraber> jibel: ok. If I can extract the list of failures by then, I'll just post them on the tracker
[15:23] <stgraber> oh, looks like the logs are there now, grepping
[15:26] <stgraber> jibel: hmm, ok, logs aren't really useful. They just tell me ubuntu desktop, ubuntu alternate and ubuntu server failed to publish
[16:40] <albrigha> anyone having any issues with the mouse in virtualbox? latest alpha 2. the daily was working fine yesterday..
[16:56] <Dyrcona> I was looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/InstallMethods and wondered if it would be useful to test the upgrade installation or is it too early for that?
[17:00] <astraljava> Hey guys, Ubuntu Studio doesn't have test cases for Alpha-2. Anyone able to help us with that?
[17:02] <jibel> astraljava, ah, sorry. I added DVD but didn't updated the test cases.
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Good morning, jibel
[17:03] <astraljava> jibel: Ok. No worries, can you add the cases, too, please?
[17:03] <jibel> astraljava, is there any specific test case or I just move previous ones ?
[17:03] <jibel> (if they apply of course)
[17:03] <astraljava> jibel: I'm not sure what there are, cause we didn't do A-1 this cycle.
[17:03] <jibel> good morning charlie-tca !
[17:03] <astraljava> So maybe add what the previous ones were, and we can talk once they're there.
[17:21] <jibel> astraljava, I added a basic testcase for Studio, could you review it ? other cases are variant of this basic test but I don't think it applies to studio dvd
[17:21] <jibel> studio dvd is more a desktop image
[17:23] <jibel> astralja1a, we can use desktop install and livecd testcases instead
[17:29] <astralja1a> jibel: Yes, desktop install and live cases should be needed. Thanks! (trouble with freenode right now, sorry)
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Dyrcona: If you haven't gotten an answer to the upgrade test question yet, yes, it would be useful. Since we are testing alpha2 candidates, we will track all the tests and results at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
[17:38] <Dyrcona> charlie-tca: thanks. I'll give it a try.
[17:59] <njin> hello, have we shipped a new kernel today ?
[17:59] <njin> I've got 2 oops in two different mobo
[18:37] <skaet> nijin,   one is being uploaded now for rebuild - but I suspect it may have the problem you're referencing.
[19:00] <bladernr_> hrmmm.... are we testing Alpha 2 now?
[19:00] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:02] <bladernr_> so... the edubuntu tasks point to the default Ubiquity install instructions... which make no mention of the extra screens in the edubuntu installer... :)
[19:42] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[20:28] <astraljava> jibel: Hate to bug you (I know you're very busy), but do you think we could get those other test cases that we talked about sometime soon? I'm about to start testing now.
[20:30] <jibel> astraljava, sorry dinner time. It's done
[20:30] <jibel> I added install entire disk and live session
[20:31] <astraljava> jibel: Sorry, and thanks a lot! :)
[20:31] <jibel> astraljava, I think you need at least a test for ubuntu studio specific parts
[20:31] <jibel> astraljava, you can add it to a wiki and give me the link I'll add it to the tracker
[20:32] <astraljava> jibel: Well, at this point, I think we would be happy with these. For instance, the ubiquity plugin for tasks selection is still under construction.
[20:32] <astraljava> jibel: Ok, sounds good, thanks!
[20:32] <jibel> astraljava, yw
[22:08] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  are there any testing tasks for Alpha 2 and ARM?
[22:09] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  nothing on the tracker, so I thought I'd ask
[22:13] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  nevermind, just noticed that they're mixed in with other things, not called out as a separate group.
[22:32] <GrueMaster> bladernr_: Yea, they are mixed with the other tasks.  My understanding is there is a new image spinning up, so I am on hold.
[22:32] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  cool... I figured I could at least hit the i.MX53 image stuff :) thanks
[22:33] <GrueMaster> Heh.  Already tested that one for 20120130.
[22:33] <GrueMaster> But you are more than welcome for the next round.
[22:35] <bladernr_> yeah, there are some listed 20120131 (just pulled that one and trying to write to SD now)
[22:36] <bladernr_> so is there going to be a 20120131.1 then? or is 20120131 the respin?