/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/31/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

brouschcord is freakish, isn't it00:00
brouschew, yeah, george pooped in utero too00:01
brouschnasty mess00:01
greg-gcheck out the bottom image, the 7 cm example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbilical_cord#Early_versus_delayed_clamping00:02
greg-ghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Detached_Umbilical_Cord.jpg  <-- That's Rowan00:02
greg-g:)00:02
brouschfml00:21
brouschmy dad is on unity and i need to walk him through something00:21
brouschover the phone00:21
greg-ghah00:25
Blazeix"ok, first install vnc"00:26
jrwrendoesn't ubuntu one have built in desktop sharing?00:26
BlazeixI imagine the blocker is setting up the router to allow it00:27
jrwrenubuntuone should solve the nat traversal problem.00:27
jrwrenif it doesn't, then fail!00:27
jrwrenhell, even chrome has a desktop sharing extension00:28
brouschah well, fixed one problem00:33
brouschnow i need to figure out how to do desktop sharing or have him set the monitor resolution00:33
snap-lTool on Delicious Agony02:00
_stink_hey, discovered today that the old 'wait 30 minute after a meal before doing something physical' is true03:19
_stink_in the form of my son03:19
snap-lcramps?03:19
_stink_who ran around like a lunatic after dinner then barfed on my wife.03:19
snap-lI think it's true for some people03:19
_stink_then it is for him and me.  i didn't barf today, though.03:19
snap-lI don't have a problem with it, outside of being sleepy for a bit afterward03:19
_stink_i mostly remember hearing that i shouldn't swim03:20
_stink_but i can barely swim anyway :P03:20
snap-lI think that's a wives tale03:20
_stink_damn my parents for fibbing to me.03:21
brouschsnap-l++03:21
brousch_stink_.son.barf++03:22
_stink_hehehe03:22
_stink_she's gotten it 4 times now03:22
_stink_to my one03:22
_stink_i was winding him up too03:22
_stink_so i think i'm mostly to blame03:22
brouschvery nice03:23
brouschbefore my son's birth i made a deal with my wife. she cleans all poops and i clean all pukes03:23
brouschhe has never puked03:23
_stink_wowsers03:23
_stink_never?03:24
_stink_man03:24
snap-lbrousch: Remind me to take you guys to Cedar Point03:24
brouschso, the deal fell through03:24
_stink_aw man03:24
_stink_and while i used to be queasy about barf, i scrub that stuff like a champ now03:24
snap-lOne hour on the Tilt-A-Whirl after eating a bucket of carny-fries should do the trick03:24
_stink_snap-l: i will not go on any rides ever.03:24
brouschever?03:25
snap-l_stink_: Wow, that's harsh03:25
_stink_last time i went to cedar point i bailed after one of the lightweight rides03:25
_stink_because i was all barfy03:25
snap-lmotion sickness?03:25
_stink_yeah03:25
brouschsnap-l: last time i came close to barfing was one of the simulators at Disney World03:25
brouschthe fake movement hits me harder than real movement03:25
snap-lThe only ones I don't like are the ones where I'm falling03:30
snap-lYou can spin me right 'round (baby right 'round, like a record) and I'm fine.03:31
_stink_man i'm exact opposite03:31
_stink_i sometimes wonder about motion sickness.  it's kind of an interesting thing evolutionarily.03:31
snap-l(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo for the reference)03:31
_stink_like for the last 200000 years, there weren't Air Force pilot spin-o-rama machines.03:32
_stink_or vans to sit in the back of for a 6 hour car ride03:32
_stink_but now that we do that stuff...03:32
_stink_i barf.03:32
snap-lI think you mighthave some trouble with equilibrium03:36
snap-l"The most common hypothesis for the cause of motion sickness is that it functions as a defense mechanism against neurotoxins.[7] The area postrema in the brain is responsible for inducing vomiting when poisons are detected, and for resolving conflicts between vision and balance. When feeling motion but not seeing it (for example, in a ship with no windows), the inner ear transmits to the brain that03:37
snap-lit senses motion, but the eyes tell the brain that everything is still. As a result of the discordance, the brain will come to the conclusion that one of them is hallucinating and further conclude that the hallucination is due to poison ingestion. The brain responds by inducing vomiting, to clear the supposed toxin."03:37
_stink_haha, yeah, was just reading wikipedia too03:37
snap-l;)03:37
brouschI started moving things off of Dreamhost today. It's not because of recent problems they've had, it's due to reading comments from users on the Dreamhost Status blog that I realized what kind of morons I am sharing a server with and it scares me03:41
_stink_hehe03:41
snap-lbrousch: You're just realizing this?03:44
brouschi had naively assumed they were people like me03:45
snap-lDreamhost has had that feeling of "I have this custom PHP script that has 15 ways to do a SQL Injection, and will take out a MySQL server because of the 20 cartesian products just to get a user record"03:47
brouschit actually has a really nice set of one click to 9install, they do maintenance php apps03:50
brouschwhat the ... snap-l do you make this comic? http://hijinksensue.com/2012/01/29/truemetalfacts/04:03
brouschnow to bed, with that in my head04:06
tjagodaHOLY DIVER04:06
snap-lbrousch: I wish04:11
snap-lI think I have created the most vile Club Metal yet.04:30
snap-lhttp://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/31/open-metalcast-special-interview-episode-on-wings-of-wax/12:20
rick_hawesome snap-l !12:31
Wolfgermorning12:44
snap-lrick_h: Thanks. :)12:45
snap-lHopefully will have an interview with Jono by the end of the week12:46
brouschfor omc?12:48
snap-lYep12:48
brouschor for a job at canonical?12:48
snap-lPfft, Canonical. ;)12:48
snap-lNobody gets hired in at Canonical. :)12:48
snap-lYou'd have to be some sort of rockstar to even get in at canonical12:49
brouschgreg-g is in SF. he could scrape some jono dna and mail it to you12:49
snap-lUm, yay?12:49
brouschthen you can splice it with yours, become a rock star, and join canonical12:50
brouschduh12:50
snap-lsilly me12:50
snap-lYay, case is Out For Delivery12:52
tjagodaAVAST!13:43
WolfgerYoho!13:43
rick_his it friday yet?13:43
Wolfgeryo-no!13:44
rick_h@$#@$#@13:46
rick_hcrap, did I do perl again? sry13:46
tjagodahttp://www.zdnet.com/photos/a-first-look-at-ubuntu-linuxs-head-up-display-gallery/6341176?tag=search-results-rivers;item913:48
tjagodaAnybody see that?13:49
tjagodaHm.13:50
tjagodaI might actually like that.13:50
rick_hyea, we'll see how it goes13:51
tjagodaI just wonder if I'll get tired of all the confused typing to figure out what I want13:53
tjagodaLike13:54
tjagodawtf do I type when I want to go to double spacing?13:54
tjagoda=P13:54
tjagodahttp://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/01/testing-hud-heads-up-display.html13:57
tjagodaIf anybody's feeling Hudventurous13:57
Wolfgerrick_h: never apologize for doing perl. Perl is awesome.14:22
rick_hWolfger: ummm...yea...riiight14:23
tjagodaPerl is awesome like chainsaws are awesome14:25
rick_h"you only ever need to fire it up that one time a year"?14:26
tjagodaAnd it feels really badass until it cuts off your leg14:26
WolfgerPerl is awesome like a Swiss Army Chainsaw is awesome.14:27
Wolfgerwhen you need something done fast, and don't care how it looks, let'er rip14:28
tjagodaAnd hope that you have great insurance benefits14:29
tjagodaFor when you need to have all your fingers reattached14:29
tjagodaHm14:29
tjagodaDoes Canonical provide insurance benefits, rick_h?14:29
tjagodaIt just occurred to me how frighteningly complex that must be when your employees are everywhere14:30
rick_htjagoda: yea14:31
tjagodaI am intimidated by the HR person who figured out what benefits package of purchase in Tasmania.14:32
tjagodato purchase*14:32
rick_hheh, well not sure how it works there14:33
Raggstjagoda, the question is what about people who have nationalized health plans, how does Canonical handle that?14:33
rick_hthe US has a business office/company in out of Mass.14:33
tjagodaApparently its spelled Tasmania14:34
tjagodaI apologize to all the Tasmanians who read our IRC logs and became offended.14:34
rick_hheh, we've got a Tasmanian on LP14:34
rick_hseveral from Australia actually14:35
tjagodaMatt had mentioned that yesterday, Tasmania specifically14:36
rick_hah, gotcha14:37
PainBanktjagoda: what were you applying for at cananoical?14:52
tjagodaSupport on the Launchpad team14:52
PainBankah, cool.15:00
snap-lJust went through orientation16:04
brouschare you more less orriented now?16:06
brouschoriental?16:06
rick_hsnap-l: completed?16:06
rick_hsnap-l: or just finally getting to the formal class bits?16:06
snap-lrick_h: The formalities16:19
snap-lReading through the new staff manual16:19
rick_hsnap-l: gotcha, fun stuff16:19
snap-lOh yeah16:19
snap-lI guess tomorrow is the dog-and-pony show16:20
brouschwhich will you ride?16:20
rick_hdog and pony show?16:20
snap-lrick_h: Each of the managers showing what they do16:23
rick_hsnap-l: ah, gotcha16:23
snap-lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_and_pony_show16:24
tjagodasnap-l starting a new job?16:27
snap-ltjagoda: Same one I've been starting, yes. :)16:28
tjagodatjagoda is clearly not up to speed on current channel events16:29
tjagodahttp://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421951_10150638859566214_127828101213_11214458_880237923_n.jpg16:35
tjagodaThat awkward moment when you realize there is a valid reason for the Middle East hating us16:35
snap-ltjagoda: Yeah, we're not exactly the most friendly people16:37
jason_rick_h, you're not supposed to continue to participate in the community once you are hired16:38
jason_sorry16:38
jason_company policy16:38
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snap-ljason_: Shouldn't you be fixing something? :)16:38
jason_snap-l, I am16:38
jason_right now16:38
_stink_i wonder if that number includes all violent civilian deaths in Iraq since we invaded.16:38
snap-lfocus follows mouse. #1 priority16:38
_stink_e.g., sectarian violence.16:38
jason_heeeellllll no16:38
jason_snap-l, I would rather kill myself than try to fight that battle again16:39
snap-ljason_: I'll help if it doesn't get fixed. ;)16:39
tjagodaAnd then Unity exploded16:40
rick_hjason_: I'm only here to distract and cause confusion16:41
rick_hand make sure they all know that all problems are from jason_16:41
tjagodaI dont know who jason_ is, but I assume he's the reason Unity hardlocks my PC.16:42
rick_htjagoda: exactly!16:42
jason_tjagoda, hardware?16:42
rick_hme job here is done16:42
tjagodaSystem7616:42
tjagodaLaptop16:42
tjagodaThe 13.3 inch model which literally has the Ubuntu logo branded on its lid16:42
jason_hardware?16:43
tjagodalulz16:43
tjagodaI would have to try and find it on the s76 wiki16:43
jason_tjagoda, I learned one thing from that infographic of yours16:43
jason_we killed the shit out of Iraq16:43
tjagodaOh god16:43
tjagodaThats now logged forever =P16:43
snap-lIt's not like it isn't a matter of public record16:43
tjagodaAnd we probably just moved up like six rankings on the terrorist hit list16:44
snap-lOh, so we're 6 levels up from #1?16:44
snap-lGoodto know. ;)16:44
jason_nor is it like thats anything new in the history of western people... we tend to kill all sorts of people16:44
tjagodaEspecially Indians.16:44
jason_we love killing indians16:44
snap-lGo with what you know.16:45
jason_never in the history of the world have a people been so effectively killed16:45
* snap-l lines up for his CoC slap and handbasket to hell16:45
tjagodaNazi's? =(16:45
jason_nope16:45
snap-lGoodwin, here we come16:45
jason_not even close16:45
tjagodarofl.16:45
jason_think about it this way16:45
tjagodaSurly the Nazi's must be winning in numbers though16:45
jason_hell no16:45
tjagodaTO GOOGLE!16:45
jason_when we found the mayans16:46
jason_they had the largest city16:46
jason_in the world16:46
jason_how many are left?16:46
jason_016:46
jason_none16:46
jason_we killed the SHIT out of them16:46
snap-lBut at least we have their calendar.16:46
tjagodaOh, I was only counting USA-killed indians16:46
jason_but thats not fair16:46
jason_most of them were in central america16:46
brouschthere are many mayans left16:47
brouschthey just don't live in the ruins16:47
tjagodaTHEN WHY DON'T THEY EXPLAIN THEIR CALENDAR?!16:47
snap-lbrousch:  IF you make a joke about Maya renderfarms, I'll hurt you. :)16:47
snap-ltjagoda: They did16:47
tjagodaOh.16:47
tjagodaWell16:47
snap-ltjagoda: They say that it repeats16:47
tjagodaKudos to them16:47
snap-lbut of course that doesn't get communicated16:48
brouschtoo boring16:48
jason_brousch, sorry I meant to imply that their entire civilization and way of life was completely destroyed16:48
snap-lFunnily enough, you can't believe everything you see on Ancient Aliens.16:48
jjessesnap-l,  really?  i'm so disappointed now16:48
tjagodaCanonical's never gonna hire me now that jason_ has associated me with mass native genocide =P16:48
snap-ljjesse: Hope you have some stiff drinks handy, because I'll disabuse a few notions for you. :)16:49
jjessehahaha i'm not current on the show, i keep on forgetting to watch16:49
tjagodaUgh16:50
snap-ljjesse: We watched it on Netflix16:50
tjagodaan iPhone just crossed my desk16:50
snap-lit's a textbook case of logical fallacy.16:50
tjagodaConsidering taking it out of the box, throwing it out, and inserting a blackberry torch in its place.16:50
snap-ltjagoda: Actually, you have some reason to do that for corporate usage16:51
snap-lsince it doesn't have the security.16:51
jason_tjagoda, we hire all sorts of weird people16:51
jason_Im sure you're not too weird16:51
jason_want my job?16:51
tjagodaI'm applying for Launchpad Support16:52
jason_tjagoda, sure you dont want my job instead?16:52
rick_hjason_: you're chained where you are16:52
rick_hdon't you have some tv bugs to fix? :P16:52
jason_TV?16:52
tjagodasnap-l: My building is full of blackberries, the sales office is full of iPhone4S's because blackberries conspicuously started falling in toilets after the first iPhone got in the door16:52
rick_hjason_: yea, unity everywhere16:52
tjagoda"HOW DID IT FALL IN THE TOILET.  YOU DONT EVEN HAVE SHIRT POCKETS!"16:53
tjagodaIf I get the Launchpad support job I imagine I will be lost and confused for the first month, drifting off balance in  a job which does not require me to constantly carry a leatherman16:55
snap-ltjagoda: You can still carry one17:00
snap-ltjagoda: Pretty sure they don't have a "no leatherman" policy (though I do believe there's a no-assless-chaps policy)17:00
snap-lThat's pretty much standard corporate fare.17:00
snap-l(and for those of you who just pictured tjagoda in chaps, you're welcome)17:02
brouschluckily i have not met him, so i was able to mentally substitute beyonce in leather chaps17:03
tjagodaI am neither female nor black, your mental substitution is flawed!17:06
tjagodaExcited after yesterday's interview though17:06
tjagodaFelt that my responses matched what he was looking for, which is good because I didn't intentionally set out to deliver a what-you-want-to-hear spiel17:07
tjagodaAlso, Brousch, a whole new set of lego characters for you to $$$ on17:08
tjagodahttp://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429477_10150528790653403_6665038402_9091598_989518281_n.jpg17:08
brouschoh great. now i can't let my son watch the movies17:08
tjagodaAlso17:09
tjagodaCCP World Headquarters is an epic building17:09
tjagodahttp://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419861_10150559051499394_17614129393_8560906_614269394_n.jpg17:09
tjagodaCCP = Makers of EVE Online17:09
snap-lAlso holders of the White Wolf IP17:10
tjagodaOr perhaps thats just their conference center17:10
tjagodaI am unsure now17:10
tjagodasnap-l: The who?17:11
tjagodaNevermind17:11
tjagodaGoogle told me17:11
tjagoda"Mitt Romney is expected to win the Florida primary, despite Newt Gingrich literally promising Florida voters the Moon. Romney has been campaigning in Florida with Sen. John McCain, who beat him for the 2008 Republican nomination. Ron Paul, who didn't campaign in Florida at all, is coming in behind the two frontrunners, followed by Rick Santorum."17:13
snap-ltjagoda: Did you Google Santorum? :)17:14
tjagodaI heard about that17:15
snap-lhttp://us.asmodee.com/ressources/articles/making-a-game-from-prototype-to-project.php17:18
tjagodaMan, the internet has a serious bromance with Ron Paul17:20
PainBanknot MY internet!17:20
tjagodaBut he's so fun an quirky17:21
tjagodaIts like electing your funny Uncle to be President17:21
snap-lThat's because we're all a bunch of hippies17:21
tjagodaI cannot imagine a world in which all American military units are actually within the borders of America17:21
tjagodaWhat kind of crazy logic is that?17:21
snap-lfound it humorous that the "hydroponics gardening" shop near MH Caribou has a BIG picture of Ron Paul on their door.17:22
PainBankpre-WW217:22
PainBankand something I agree with to some degree.17:22
tjagodaI would love to see us remove deployments from the WW2 holdovers17:22
snap-lPainBank: I think that's the problem with Ron Paul17:22
snap-lOn the surface, he makes sense17:22
tjagodaLike the bazillions of troops in germany17:22
PainBankthat is why I said some degree.17:23
PainBankgermany... japan... keeping some local like that make sense...17:23
snap-lunfortunately, #1: He's not Congress, and #2: He's a bit draconian in his policies.17:23
PainBankbut just cause we have troops everywhere doesn't mean we have to use them...17:23
PainBankyup17:23
PainBanksnap-l: agree17:23
tjagodaI like the total withdrawal.17:24
tjagodaAnd I mean17:24
tjagodaWe can get anywhere in the globe in a matter of minutes with our superfast missiles17:24
snap-lWhat's humrous too is how much authority the president really has17:24
tjagodaIs it really necessary to have a bunch of marines staring at China from Asia?17:24
snap-li.e.: not much17:24
snap-ltjagoda: Frankly, China scares me17:24
snap-lThey're the folks who have the where-with-all to actually make good on threats.17:25
tjagodaChina's foreign policy is very much one of "ignore the rest of the world because we're already mega huge"17:25
snap-lif China did trade sanctions, we'd have to re-learn how to make the lube to screw ourselves17:25
PainBanksnap-l: china doesn't scare me!  haven't you seen Red Dawn 2 yet?17:26
tjagodaI am not entirely opposed to the results of China trade sanctions. =(17:26
PainBanksnap-l: lol17:26
PainBanknice17:26
PainBankso true17:26
snap-lPainBank: Dude, this is the place that screws with their own currency on a regular basis17:26
PainBankI know, I know... just messing with you.17:26
PainBankI have a lot of concerns about them as well, but their communism isn't the same as the soviets... actually, it may be worse if that is possible.17:27
tjagodaCommcapitalism17:27
tjagodaCommucapitalism*17:27
snap-lYeah, at least Soviet-era communism wasn't sustainable17:27
snap-l(at least we know that now)17:28
tjagodaDoes China even really get to be called Communist anymoer?17:28
tjagodamore*17:28
snap-lyes17:28
PainBankah, yup17:28
tjagodaAre they not just really totalitarian Capitalists in the making? =(17:28
PainBankthey are, but their path to get there is through capitalism... unfortunately...17:29
PainBankbut we like our goods cheap here.17:29
PainBankchina is like the robot ship on Wall-E.... slowly taking us over... while we sit fat and happy....17:30
tjagodaPainBank obviously wants us to invade China17:32
snap-lWolfger: http://www.maxhire.net/cp/?E4596C721443515B7E571B217756186B02627740560117:34
PainBankROCK ON!!!!17:40
PainBankor... perhaps...17:40
PainBankjust impose IRAN style trade sanctions and start making everything here again... at least until it can be made by some other BIG country a bit more friendly, like, oh say India...17:40
PainBanksnap-l: nice.17:42
PainBankso if I apply for a postion for HTML5 app dev and tell them I have done HTML5 since 1997, would that be a lie?17:42
PainBankhaha17:43
snap-l;)17:44
snap-lI've been wanting HTML5 since 199717:44
PainBankhehe17:45
tjagodaPainBank: Or Brazil?17:50
PainBankI would prefer Brazil....17:51
PainBankhave ya seen the hotties from there!  whoooohooooo17:52
PainBankanyone ever try out a 3G repeater or amplifier for a cell phone?  I miss my high data rates when up north.17:55
PainBank. If you don't read the internet you are uninformed, if you do read the internet you are misinformed.18:00
PainBankadaption of a quote.18:00
Wolfgersnap-l: Yes, we have their (Mayan) calendar, but it's clearly worthless. They said the world would end in 2012, but it ended much, much sooner than that (for them)18:29
PainBankWolfger: noooo, they just left eaarth18:30
Wolfgertjagoda: I worship CCP18:31
WolfgerPainBank: Red Dawn 2 came out? I've been waiting for it ever since I saw the set in Mount Clemens18:32
PainBankno... haha18:32
jrwrenzomg, I didn't know it was THIS bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.dwg18:32
PainBankbut I am waiting for it too... of course it won't live up to the 1st... but I will take what I can get for suvival stories18:32
PainBank"DWG" redirects here. For the cereal byproduct of the distillation process, seeĀ Distillers wet grains.18:33
brouschjrwren: what do you mean?18:38
PainBankhaha, that was at the top of the link18:39
jrwrendealing with cad files... I didn't know DWG was a TM IP disaster.18:55
snap-lIf it involves Autodesk in any way, consider it a disaster.18:55
brouschoh yeah, it is one of my pet peeves18:55
brouschyou have to pay into some shady org to use libs to read the files18:56
snap-lAutodesk is one of the companies that I truly despise, next to Oracle18:56
brouschautodesk changes the dwg standard every 3 years to shake out anyone who has reverse-engineered it18:56
jrwrenand they sue over plain text in the file!!!18:56
jrwrenbecause that plain text is their TM!18:57
jrwrenmy jaw dropped.18:57
jrwrenIP in this world needs great revisions.18:57
snap-ljrwren: Yep, they're Grade A, FDA approved assholes18:57
brouschthey give you a free viewer to download, but it is the most monstrously bloated piece of software ever18:57
jrwrenif the FDA approved it, ya know it ain't good :p18:57
snap-lOther companies are ground chuck to their Kobe Beef of asshollery.18:57
brouschi have to run a windows VM just to run their win3.1-looking license manager18:58
snap-lhttp://magnatune.com/artists/ion <- Sounds a lot like Red Shift18:59
jrwrenmusic, or Red Shift the physics description of light behaving like doppler effect in sound?'19:00
snap-lRed Shift the ambient band19:00
jrwrenever listen to Delien? the song Red Pod :)19:01
snap-lhttp://www.redshift.biz/19:01
snap-lNot ringing a bell19:02
snap-lhttp://www.downloadplatform.com/directory.php?artist=81&title=Redshift19:02
snap-lLove the album Down time19:03
rick_hI declare it beer time19:25
rick_hthat is all...19:25
brouschgood. bring me 219:26
rick_hhttp://davenicolette.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/well-actually/19:26
brouschug, tedious article19:29
snap-lYay, case arrived.20:50
snap-lLeft At:20:50
snap-lMet Customer Woman20:50
tjagodaWhoot20:55
tjagodaNew monitor shipped20:55
brouschooooh, customer woman20:56
Blazeixandroid humble bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/?android23:26
snap-lYeah, that's awesome.23:36

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