| len_ | Todays iso is a bust. Networking still broken, Install broken. | 00:05 |
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| len_ | Ubiquity says the install is finished and when I reboot i get no os list. just binkin' cursor. | 00:06 |
| len_ | None of the install logs seem to have been written to the drive either, so I can't find out what happened. I guess I will have to try again and copy the logs from memory to a disk. | 00:08 |
| len_ | Something is failing with the install/updating of grub. | 00:09 |
| ScottL | len_, cjwatson says that tomorrow's image should be better, but there is still an issue of the pre-seed happening after the install which is a ubiquity bug | 01:08 |
| len_ | Do I still file the bug report? The networking bug is a big one. No wireless connect. | 01:10 |
| len_ | Sorry, ScottL ^^ | 01:10 |
| len_ | ScottL: filed Bug #924064 on install fail. | 02:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 924064 in Ubuntu "ubiquity crashes on 12.04 alpha install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924064 | 02:07 |
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| ScottL | len_, sorry, i was getting daughter to clean room and cleaning dishes, i think astraljava already filed a bug for the ubiquity crash | 02:38 |
| micahg | ScottL: sorry, I accidentally uploaded ubuntustudio-default-settings as me instead of you | 02:49 |
| len_ | Scottl: I think his is slightly different... | 02:49 |
| len_ | When I filed mine it didn't pull up any list of close bugs | 02:50 |
| ScottL | micahg, i'm not worried about it, i'm just worried about getting the packages upload :) | 02:50 |
| len_ | It seems to be saying the packages are not there, but when I look at the iso find them | 02:51 |
| ScottL | this is astraljava's bug: bug 923830 | 02:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 923830 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashes on ubuntu studio live-dvd 20120129" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923830 | 02:52 |
| ScottL | len_, can you check if they are duplicates, if so mark one of them as duplicate? | 02:52 |
| len_ | it seems to me his is only if he clicked on the upgrade ubiquity link. | 02:53 |
| ScottL | oh, okay :) | 02:53 |
| ScottL | thank you, though :) | 02:53 |
| len_ | ScottL: Looked at both bug reports side by and they are two different versions of ubiquity and the contents of the installer debug file are different too. | 03:42 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: any progress on checking the kernel? | 15:31 |
| * scott-work is starting to get nervous about this :/ | 15:31 | |
| astraljava | Hmm... yeah, A-2 on Thursday already. | 15:37 |
| falktx | astraljava: hey | 15:38 |
| astraljava | falktx: Howdy! | 15:40 |
| knome | hmm. anyone willing to work on the ubuntu studio installer slideshow?? :) | 15:41 |
| knome | holstein? | 15:41 |
| holstein | knome: yup | 15:42 |
| * astraljava whistles innocently while walking away | 15:42 | |
| holstein | knome: what do you need from me? | 15:42 |
| holstein | im preparing for a rehersal right now, but im going to be done in 30 minuts or so, and i'll have some time :) | 15:42 |
| knome | holstein, can you list things that you want in the slideshow? | 15:43 |
| falktx | astraljava: do you know what to do for the ubiquity plugin? I'm completely in the dark... | 15:43 |
| holstein | knome: tbh, id be fine with one static image | 15:44 |
| holstein | or the slides from your WP thing | 15:44 |
| holstein | was that your WP thing? | 15:45 |
| astraljava | falktx: Not really, I never did find the time when I was supposed to, and then set it aside when Scott told you started working on it. But I can have a look. | 15:45 |
| knome | holstein, yyp. | 15:45 |
| knome | holstein, okay, i'll copy those. | 15:45 |
| knome | holstein, can you at some stage check the content? | 15:45 |
| holstein | knome: i like those, and i think that would give us a consistent look | 15:45 |
| holstein | otherwise, i could try and fake what our theme will be, and get some appropriate screenies | 15:45 |
| falktx | astraljava: I feel kinda stupid... it probably is easy, I just don't see it | 15:46 |
| knome | holstein, i'll have to see how to incorporate the background images to the slideshow. the space is more limited there | 15:46 |
| astraljava | falktx: Heh, yeah. I get that at work a lot. :) No worries, we can figure it out. :) | 15:46 |
| knome | holstein, so actually, shots might be better | 15:46 |
| holstein | knome: i could try and chew on that over the next few weeks | 15:47 |
| holstein | ask scott-work what our theme will be like | 15:47 |
| knome | right... | 15:47 |
| holstein | and go from there | 15:47 |
| falktx | astraljava: thanks! Currently I feel like if I keep trying I'll only get more frustated | 15:47 |
| holstein | knome: whats our timeframe? | 15:47 |
| astraljava | falktx: I know the feeling. :) | 15:47 |
| knome | holstein, deadline is UIfreeze @ Feb 23 | 15:47 |
| holstein | knome: thats doable | 15:48 |
| holstein | knome: let me get back with you maybe early next week | 15:48 |
| holstein | see how far ive come | 15:48 |
| knome | ok, thanks | 15:48 |
| astraljava | falktx: I got a feeling that we should first concentrate on the ubiquity/plugins/ stuff. We can use examples from edubuntu on that one, and I'm looking at them right now. | 15:49 |
| knome | astraljava, can you keep xubuntu in your mind too? :) | 15:50 |
| falktx | astraljava: many thanks man, you deserve a medal! | 15:51 |
| astraljava | knome: Let me practice with ours, first, and then I can do it for Xubuntu. Can you make some sort of a task of it for me? Do you have any trackers for such? | 15:51 |
| knome | astraljava, sure, just a sec. what's your lp username? | 15:51 |
| falktx | better, an ubuntu trophy! | 15:51 |
| astraljava | falktx: Nah... I'm only just getting into this stuff. I have been away from the dev stuff for way too long. Taking the final steps now. :) | 15:51 |
| astraljava | knome: same as nick. | 15:51 |
| knome | astraljava, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-xubuntu-ubiquity-application-sets | 15:52 |
| astraljava | knome: Excellent, thanks! | 15:55 |
| holstein | knome: question... size? format?... can i give them to you ready to drop in with text on them? | 16:24 |
| holstein | if i wanted to get one of the current slides... where would that be? | 16:25 |
| holstein | i could just copy that | 16:25 |
| holstein | as far as style, etc... | 16:25 |
| knome | 440x370 if we use the same as in xubuntu slides | 16:25 |
| knome | just provide me with the shots + text | 16:25 |
| knome | i'll handle the rest | 16:25 |
| knome | if you want to "cut" windows from the right+bottom edges, then use 450x410 | 16:26 |
| knome | let me post you some examples | 16:26 |
| holstein | so, just give you an image, and what text i want, and you'll do the overlay? or you want me to go ahead and add the text? | 16:27 |
| knome | just a sec | 16:28 |
| knome | holstein, see: http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/slideshow/ | 16:31 |
| knome | holstein, look at abiword_slide.png first | 16:32 |
| knome | holstein, i need the title + text + shot | 16:32 |
| knome | holstein, (menu "paths" are included in "text", if you want those) | 16:32 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 16:33 |
| knome | holstein, if you want a shot like abiword, which is cut from right+left, it should be 450x410 | 16:33 |
| holstein | just when you think something is going to be easy ;) | 16:33 |
| knome | holstein, if like "desktop_slide.png", gimme 440x370 | 16:33 |
| knome | holstein, do you want me to clarify something? | 16:34 |
| holstein | knome: so, im going to give you want i want for a title, and what text i want, and a screenie | 16:35 |
| holstein | and you put it all together? | 16:35 |
| knome | yes | 16:35 |
| holstein | OK | 16:35 |
| holstein | now its back to something i can do... | 16:35 |
| knome | ;) | 16:35 |
| knome | i'll naturally tweak the background image and stuff to fit ubuntu studio a bit better | 16:36 |
| knome | don't worry about that | 16:36 |
| holstein | when i saw those buttons i said "dammit" | 16:36 |
| knome | heh ;) | 16:36 |
| knome | well, the slideshow jquery handles most of that | 16:36 |
| holstein | scott-work: ping | 16:40 |
| scott-work | holstein: pong | 16:44 |
| scott-work | holstein: the theme should look exceptionally like xubuntu's now | 16:44 |
| scott-work | perhaps tomorrow's image, maybe today's image | 16:44 |
| scott-work | holstein: you can read the guidelines linked in the roadmap wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Roadmap) for specs on the ubiquity images/text | 16:45 |
| holstein | scott-work: so.. our theme | 16:47 |
| holstein | whats the plan? | 16:47 |
| holstein | i want to kind of fake that for some screenshots | 16:47 |
| holstein | i dont think its as big of a deal just getting windows images | 16:48 |
| scott-work | holstein: the -default-settings, -icon-theme, and -look packages that micahg helped me upload set the theme | 16:48 |
| scott-work | holstein: they should be in today's image possibly, but most certainly in tomorrow's image | 16:49 |
| knome | scott-work, right, i didn't catch you had a draft for the slideshow too ;) we can use any other layout too, but i think 1 shot per slide is quite maximum, taking into account that the slideshow window should fit in the resolution... | 16:49 |
| micahg | scott-work: I hope everything is working right ;) | 16:49 |
| knome | if not, you can just try the xubuntu image ;) | 16:49 |
| holstein | scott-work: cool :) | 16:49 |
| astraljava | knome: Are you suggesting us joining forces and projects? :D | 16:50 |
| knome | lol, no. | 16:50 |
| knome | i'm just trying to steal all the possible workforce from US. | 16:50 |
| astraljava | That's fine. We're leeching at full speed from you guys, too. | 16:50 |
| knome | yeah ;) | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | milestone testing for alpha2 today and tomorrow. Is anyone able to run the US images? | 16:51 |
| astraljava | knome: Well, actually, if I do this ubiquity thing for Xubuntu, then I'm practically one of 'you', right? :D | 16:51 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: I will, for sure. | 16:52 |
| knome | astraljava, sure! ;) | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | great! I will run what I can, but it is going to be a time battle here | 16:52 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Absolutely. Don't worry about us/US, you got your hands full with Xubuntu. | 16:53 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: But thanks for all support, anyway! | 16:53 |
| astraljava | Are the images up, btw.? | 16:53 |
| astraljava | Seem to be. | 16:54 |
| astraljava | zsyncing now. | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I show the images dated 2012-01-30 in the iso tracker | 16:54 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: i'll be testing as well | 16:55 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: i guess i need to resubscribe the to the test since they moved to the new tracker | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | That helps. Usually want up to 5 tests on each one | 16:56 |
| scott-work | anyone have the link handy for the new tracker? is it more than an ip yet? | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | My email still works telling me the images are up. But I might have resubscribed last time | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/206/builds | 16:57 |
| charlie-tca | but it took me three times to get the thing up | 16:57 |
| * scott-work has a series of meetings to go to and probably will only be online spotty until mid-afternoon....i greatly dislike bloody meetings | 16:57 | |
| astraljava | scott-work: We don't have any test cases up, yet. | 16:57 |
| astraljava | I will head on to -testing to find out why. | 16:57 |
| charlie-tca | after I logged in, it won't show me any tests first | 16:57 |
| astraljava | Oh? | 16:58 |
| scott-work | crap, that might be a left over from us not wanting to test A1 | 16:58 |
| scott-work | astraljava: please talk to someone about it | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | No, it wouldn't show anything | 16:58 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Yep, I will. | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: you do | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | try going to the home page and picking alpha2 again | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | ah, crap | 16:59 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: I just did, went all the way up to the starting page. | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | sorry. I see it now. | 16:59 |
| astraljava | That's fine, I'll be talking about it now. | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | They put the image on but no tests required, huh? | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | it them in #ubuntu-release for that. | 16:59 |
| astraljava | Oh ok, I'll ask there as well. | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | If you don't get an answer in a couple of minutes, try stgraber directly in -release. | 17:02 |
| astraljava | They're busy, I'm sure they'll react soon enough. :) | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:03 |
| charlie-tca | jibel got you covered | 17:03 |
| astraljava | Yep, thanks. | 17:05 |
| astraljava | micahg: If you have time at some point to explain (and try to make me understand) the ~ubuntu-branches/* stuff, I'd be thrilled! :) Currently I'm under the assumption that they are created from other branches, but if so, then I don't understand where the edubuntu ubiquity/plugins/ stuff reside. | 17:51 |
| micahg | astraljava: that's a team placeholder for the lp:ubuntu/foo stuff | 17:52 |
| micahg | since branches are team owned, not project owned | 17:52 |
| scott-work | astraljava: the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-ubuntustudio-livedvd) has the link to the plugin directory i believe | 17:53 |
| scott-work | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/edubuntu-live/precise/files/head:/livecd/ubiquity/ | 17:54 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Can you tell me the branch that I would then re-branch for US? | 17:54 |
| astraljava | Cause I sure don't. | 17:54 |
| astraljava | can't* | 17:55 |
| astraljava | micahg: So, some team relating to edubuntu owns the branch lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live, and I need to create lp:ubuntu/ubuntustudio-live somewhere, is that so? | 18:04 |
| micahg | astraljava: no, the lp:ubuntu/foo branches are created on upload | 18:05 |
| astraljava | Right. I'm really stumped as to where I could find the original source branch that holds the ubiquity/plugins/ stuff, then. | 18:05 |
| micahg | astraljava: ask stgraber? | 18:06 |
| astraljava | micahg: Ok, I will. Thanks for your help! | 18:06 |
| astraljava | scott-work: AFAIUI, I'm now creating the ubuntustudio-live package, basing it from lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live branch. Let's see how it works out. | 18:33 |
| astraljava | scott-work: There's not that much work, but I need to go through all of the files, to make sure none of the edubuntu stuff is left. | 18:33 |
| scott-work | astraljava: cool, thanks! | 18:49 |
| astraljava | scott-work: ailo: len: holstein: ISO tracker has test cases now, so LET'S GO! :) | 20:32 |
| astraljava | I'm personally just waiting to sync my .ogg's, so that my listening is uninterrupted while testing. :D | 20:34 |
| len | astraljava: just got in the door and went through the above. I'll start DL. | 20:51 |
| astraljava | len: Excellent! Thanks! :) | 20:52 |
| len | astraljava: maybe not... it is still the jan30 iso which is broken. Xubuntu has a new one but we don't | 20:53 |
| astraljava | len: Damnit, you're right. One second. Err... well a couple. | 20:55 |
| astraljava | Yeah, sorry folks. No ETA at the moment. Carry on with your previously scheduled programme. | 20:58 |
| astraljava | At least 4 hours, still. | 20:59 |
| scott-work | astraljava: 4 hours until the next iso is ready? is that because someone is respinning it? if so, is the respin for a particular reason? | 21:02 |
| astraljava | scott-work: _At least_ 4 hours. And yes, there's a new kernel upload on the way, | 21:03 |
| len | astraljava: So Xubuntu will get a new one too? Or is that our kernel? | 21:04 |
| astraljava | len: We don't have our own, yet. | 21:05 |
| len | Ok, I'm DL Xubuntu Jan31 so I will know if any problems I find are unique to US. | 21:06 |
| astraljava | len: Perfect. Thanks! | 21:06 |
| len | astraljava: I had most of the xubuntu alt iso so I DL that first. So far it seems to have the same wireless auth bug as the US has since jan29 (and jan 30) | 22:09 |
| len | We need someone else to test the wireless stuff so that the bug can be confirmed. | 22:10 |
| holstein | :? | 22:10 |
| holstein | :/ | 22:10 |
| holstein | i cant til maybe tomorrow | 22:10 |
| holstein | ill check in then though | 22:11 |
| len | Anyway, I am installing Xubuntu jan31 alt while xubuntu live DL while waiting for US to be published. | 22:11 |
| len | holstein: thnks | 22:11 |
| len | wlan connect is a big deal for me. | 22:12 |
| holstein | len: well, some might disable it, and i do on my studio rigs, but if it ships, it should work, or at least be able to work | 22:13 |
| astraljava | len: Alright. But in all fairness, the comparisons should be made against their desktop image, as that's the equivalent of ours, really. | 22:13 |
| len | Its downloading | 22:14 |
| astraljava | holstein: Tomorrow's fine. The release of A-2 is on Thursday. | 22:14 |
| len | I had the alt from when I was comparing to our alt so zsync was quick, live is still an hour away. | 22:15 |
| astraljava | Ahh... ok, sorry. :) | 22:15 |
| len | Weird, It looks like a dhcp problem... same dhcp server for wired or wireless, wired works wireless doesn't. Wireless seems to use a different dhcp client. | 23:21 |
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