[00:05] Todays iso is a bust. Networking still broken, Install broken. [00:06] Ubiquity says the install is finished and when I reboot i get no os list. just binkin' cursor. [00:08] None of the install logs seem to have been written to the drive either, so I can't find out what happened. I guess I will have to try again and copy the logs from memory to a disk. [00:09] Something is failing with the install/updating of grub. [01:08] len_, cjwatson says that tomorrow's image should be better, but there is still an issue of the pre-seed happening after the install which is a ubiquity bug [01:10] Do I still file the bug report? The networking bug is a big one. No wireless connect. [01:10] Sorry, ScottL ^^ [02:07] ScottL: filed Bug #924064 on install fail. [02:07] Launchpad bug 924064 in Ubuntu "ubiquity crashes on 12.04 alpha install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924064 === jussi01 is now known as Guest21792 [02:38] len_, sorry, i was getting daughter to clean room and cleaning dishes, i think astraljava already filed a bug for the ubiquity crash [02:49] ScottL: sorry, I accidentally uploaded ubuntustudio-default-settings as me instead of you [02:49] Scottl: I think his is slightly different... [02:50] When I filed mine it didn't pull up any list of close bugs [02:50] micahg, i'm not worried about it, i'm just worried about getting the packages upload :) [02:51] It seems to be saying the packages are not there, but when I look at the iso find them [02:52] this is astraljava's bug: bug 923830 [02:52] Launchpad bug 923830 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashes on ubuntu studio live-dvd 20120129" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923830 [02:52] len_, can you check if they are duplicates, if so mark one of them as duplicate? [02:53] it seems to me his is only if he clicked on the upgrade ubiquity link. [02:53] oh, okay :) [02:53] thank you, though :) [03:42] ScottL: Looked at both bug reports side by and they are two different versions of ubiquity and the contents of the installer debug file are different too. [15:31] TheMuso: any progress on checking the kernel? [15:31] * scott-work is starting to get nervous about this :/ [15:37] Hmm... yeah, A-2 on Thursday already. [15:38] astraljava: hey [15:40] falktx: Howdy! [15:41] hmm. anyone willing to work on the ubuntu studio installer slideshow?? :) [15:41] holstein? [15:42] knome: yup [15:42] * astraljava whistles innocently while walking away [15:42] knome: what do you need from me? [15:42] im preparing for a rehersal right now, but im going to be done in 30 minuts or so, and i'll have some time :) [15:43] holstein, can you list things that you want in the slideshow? [15:43] astraljava: do you know what to do for the ubiquity plugin? I'm completely in the dark... [15:44] knome: tbh, id be fine with one static image [15:44] or the slides from your WP thing [15:45] was that your WP thing? [15:45] falktx: Not really, I never did find the time when I was supposed to, and then set it aside when Scott told you started working on it. But I can have a look. [15:45] holstein, yyp. [15:45] holstein, okay, i'll copy those. [15:45] holstein, can you at some stage check the content? [15:45] knome: i like those, and i think that would give us a consistent look [15:45] otherwise, i could try and fake what our theme will be, and get some appropriate screenies [15:46] astraljava: I feel kinda stupid... it probably is easy, I just don't see it [15:46] holstein, i'll have to see how to incorporate the background images to the slideshow. the space is more limited there [15:46] falktx: Heh, yeah. I get that at work a lot. :) No worries, we can figure it out. :) [15:46] holstein, so actually, shots might be better [15:47] knome: i could try and chew on that over the next few weeks [15:47] ask scott-work what our theme will be like [15:47] right... [15:47] and go from there [15:47] astraljava: thanks! Currently I feel like if I keep trying I'll only get more frustated [15:47] knome: whats our timeframe? [15:47] falktx: I know the feeling. :) [15:47] holstein, deadline is UIfreeze @ Feb 23 [15:48] knome: thats doable [15:48] knome: let me get back with you maybe early next week [15:48] see how far ive come [15:48] ok, thanks [15:49] falktx: I got a feeling that we should first concentrate on the ubiquity/plugins/ stuff. We can use examples from edubuntu on that one, and I'm looking at them right now. [15:50] astraljava, can you keep xubuntu in your mind too? :) [15:51] astraljava: many thanks man, you deserve a medal! [15:51] knome: Let me practice with ours, first, and then I can do it for Xubuntu. Can you make some sort of a task of it for me? Do you have any trackers for such? [15:51] astraljava, sure, just a sec. what's your lp username? [15:51] better, an ubuntu trophy! [15:51] falktx: Nah... I'm only just getting into this stuff. I have been away from the dev stuff for way too long. Taking the final steps now. :) [15:51] knome: same as nick. [15:52] astraljava, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-xubuntu-ubiquity-application-sets [15:55] knome: Excellent, thanks! [16:24] knome: question... size? format?... can i give them to you ready to drop in with text on them? [16:25] if i wanted to get one of the current slides... where would that be? [16:25] i could just copy that [16:25] as far as style, etc... [16:25] 440x370 if we use the same as in xubuntu slides [16:25] just provide me with the shots + text [16:25] i'll handle the rest [16:26] if you want to "cut" windows from the right+bottom edges, then use 450x410 [16:26] let me post you some examples [16:27] so, just give you an image, and what text i want, and you'll do the overlay? or you want me to go ahead and add the text? [16:28] just a sec [16:31] holstein, see: http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/slideshow/ [16:32] holstein, look at abiword_slide.png first [16:32] holstein, i need the title + text + shot [16:32] holstein, (menu "paths" are included in "text", if you want those) [16:33] hmmmm [16:33] holstein, if you want a shot like abiword, which is cut from right+left, it should be 450x410 [16:33] just when you think something is going to be easy ;) [16:33] holstein, if like "desktop_slide.png", gimme 440x370 [16:34] holstein, do you want me to clarify something? [16:35] knome: so, im going to give you want i want for a title, and what text i want, and a screenie [16:35] and you put it all together? [16:35] yes [16:35] OK [16:35] now its back to something i can do... [16:35] ;) [16:36] i'll naturally tweak the background image and stuff to fit ubuntu studio a bit better [16:36] don't worry about that [16:36] when i saw those buttons i said "dammit" [16:36] heh ;) [16:36] well, the slideshow jquery handles most of that [16:40] scott-work: ping [16:44] holstein: pong [16:44] holstein: the theme should look exceptionally like xubuntu's now [16:44] perhaps tomorrow's image, maybe today's image [16:45] holstein: you can read the guidelines linked in the roadmap wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Roadmap) for specs on the ubiquity images/text [16:47] scott-work: so.. our theme [16:47] whats the plan? [16:47] i want to kind of fake that for some screenshots [16:48] i dont think its as big of a deal just getting windows images [16:48] holstein: the -default-settings, -icon-theme, and -look packages that micahg helped me upload set the theme [16:49] holstein: they should be in today's image possibly, but most certainly in tomorrow's image [16:49] scott-work, right, i didn't catch you had a draft for the slideshow too ;) we can use any other layout too, but i think 1 shot per slide is quite maximum, taking into account that the slideshow window should fit in the resolution... [16:49] scott-work: I hope everything is working right ;) [16:49] if not, you can just try the xubuntu image ;) [16:49] scott-work: cool :) [16:50] knome: Are you suggesting us joining forces and projects? :D [16:50] lol, no. [16:50] i'm just trying to steal all the possible workforce from US. [16:50] That's fine. We're leeching at full speed from you guys, too. [16:51] yeah ;) [16:51] milestone testing for alpha2 today and tomorrow. Is anyone able to run the US images? [16:51] knome: Well, actually, if I do this ubiquity thing for Xubuntu, then I'm practically one of 'you', right? :D [16:52] charlie-tca: I will, for sure. [16:52] astraljava, sure! ;) [16:52] great! I will run what I can, but it is going to be a time battle here [16:53] charlie-tca: Absolutely. Don't worry about us/US, you got your hands full with Xubuntu. [16:53] charlie-tca: But thanks for all support, anyway! [16:53] Are the images up, btw.? [16:54] Seem to be. [16:54] zsyncing now. [16:54] yes, I show the images dated 2012-01-30 in the iso tracker [16:55] charlie-tca: i'll be testing as well [16:56] charlie-tca: i guess i need to resubscribe the to the test since they moved to the new tracker [16:56] That helps. Usually want up to 5 tests on each one [16:56] anyone have the link handy for the new tracker? is it more than an ip yet? [16:56] My email still works telling me the images are up. But I might have resubscribed last time [16:57] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/206/builds [16:57] but it took me three times to get the thing up [16:57] * scott-work has a series of meetings to go to and probably will only be online spotty until mid-afternoon....i greatly dislike bloody meetings [16:57] scott-work: We don't have any test cases up, yet. [16:57] I will head on to -testing to find out why. [16:57] after I logged in, it won't show me any tests first [16:58] Oh? [16:58] crap, that might be a left over from us not wanting to test A1 [16:58] astraljava: please talk to someone about it [16:58] No, it wouldn't show anything [16:58] scott-work: Yep, I will. [16:58] astraljava: you do [16:58] try going to the home page and picking alpha2 again [16:59] ah, crap [16:59] charlie-tca: I just did, went all the way up to the starting page. [16:59] sorry. I see it now. [16:59] That's fine, I'll be talking about it now. [16:59] They put the image on but no tests required, huh? [16:59] it them in #ubuntu-release for that. [17:00] Oh ok, I'll ask there as well. [17:02] If you don't get an answer in a couple of minutes, try stgraber directly in -release. [17:02] They're busy, I'm sure they'll react soon enough. :) [17:03] yup [17:03] jibel got you covered [17:05] Yep, thanks. [17:51] micahg: If you have time at some point to explain (and try to make me understand) the ~ubuntu-branches/* stuff, I'd be thrilled! :) Currently I'm under the assumption that they are created from other branches, but if so, then I don't understand where the edubuntu ubiquity/plugins/ stuff reside. [17:52] astraljava: that's a team placeholder for the lp:ubuntu/foo stuff [17:52] since branches are team owned, not project owned [17:53] astraljava: the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-ubuntustudio-livedvd) has the link to the plugin directory i believe [17:54] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/edubuntu-live/precise/files/head:/livecd/ubiquity/ [17:54] scott-work: Can you tell me the branch that I would then re-branch for US? [17:54] Cause I sure don't. [17:55] can't* [18:04] micahg: So, some team relating to edubuntu owns the branch lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live, and I need to create lp:ubuntu/ubuntustudio-live somewhere, is that so? [18:05] astraljava: no, the lp:ubuntu/foo branches are created on upload [18:05] Right. I'm really stumped as to where I could find the original source branch that holds the ubiquity/plugins/ stuff, then. [18:06] astraljava: ask stgraber? [18:06] micahg: Ok, I will. Thanks for your help! [18:33] scott-work: AFAIUI, I'm now creating the ubuntustudio-live package, basing it from lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live branch. Let's see how it works out. [18:33] scott-work: There's not that much work, but I need to go through all of the files, to make sure none of the edubuntu stuff is left. [18:49] astraljava: cool, thanks! [20:32] scott-work: ailo: len: holstein: ISO tracker has test cases now, so LET'S GO! :) [20:34] I'm personally just waiting to sync my .ogg's, so that my listening is uninterrupted while testing. :D [20:51] astraljava: just got in the door and went through the above. I'll start DL. [20:52] len: Excellent! Thanks! :) [20:53] astraljava: maybe not... it is still the jan30 iso which is broken. Xubuntu has a new one but we don't [20:55] len: Damnit, you're right. One second. Err... well a couple. [20:58] Yeah, sorry folks. No ETA at the moment. Carry on with your previously scheduled programme. [20:59] At least 4 hours, still. [21:02] astraljava: 4 hours until the next iso is ready? is that because someone is respinning it? if so, is the respin for a particular reason? [21:03] scott-work: _At least_ 4 hours. And yes, there's a new kernel upload on the way, [21:04] astraljava: So Xubuntu will get a new one too? Or is that our kernel? [21:05] len: We don't have our own, yet. [21:06] Ok, I'm DL Xubuntu Jan31 so I will know if any problems I find are unique to US. [21:06] len: Perfect. Thanks! [22:09] astraljava: I had most of the xubuntu alt iso so I DL that first. So far it seems to have the same wireless auth bug as the US has since jan29 (and jan 30) [22:10] We need someone else to test the wireless stuff so that the bug can be confirmed. [22:10] :? [22:10] :/ [22:10] i cant til maybe tomorrow [22:11] ill check in then though [22:11] Anyway, I am installing Xubuntu jan31 alt while xubuntu live DL while waiting for US to be published. [22:11] holstein: thnks [22:12] wlan connect is a big deal for me. [22:13] len: well, some might disable it, and i do on my studio rigs, but if it ships, it should work, or at least be able to work [22:13] len: Alright. But in all fairness, the comparisons should be made against their desktop image, as that's the equivalent of ours, really. [22:14] Its downloading [22:14] holstein: Tomorrow's fine. The release of A-2 is on Thursday. [22:15] I had the alt from when I was comparing to our alt so zsync was quick, live is still an hour away. [22:15] Ahh... ok, sorry. :) [23:21] Weird, It looks like a dhcp problem... same dhcp server for wired or wireless, wired works wireless doesn't. Wireless seems to use a different dhcp client.