| ochosi | micahg: there'll be a new release of gmusicbrowser tomorrow, it'll fix a few issues that are also xubuntu-critical. maybe we could get it through debian before FF? | 15:14 |
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| hobgoblin | anyone in here want some feedback on Pasi's terminalrc blog post? | 15:30 |
| * knome wants | 15:30 | |
| * hobgoblin loves it - almost | 15:31 | |
| knome | ok, so what's the problem? | 15:31 |
| hobgoblin | all I would say is the scroll bar looks like an addon - if that could be the same scheme hobgoblin would love it completely | 15:31 |
| knome | i know there might be problematic color combinations | 15:31 |
| knome | right, that's being fixed in greybird | 15:31 |
| knome | or, that's actually fixed already | 15:32 |
| knome | i just seem to have an old version of greybird | 15:32 |
| hobgoblin | for me it looks ok - I suspect people with visual issues mightn't like it - but they are likely to set it up for themselves anyway - perhaps | 15:32 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 15:32 |
| knome | we are thinking of having an "accessibility" installation choice, that could use the normal color scheme | 15:33 |
| knome | and a bigger font... | 15:33 |
| hobgoblin | knome: excellent then - though I didn't actually have this terminalrc at all here - had to do from scratch | 15:33 |
| knome | ah, right :) | 15:33 |
| knome | then i suppose you had the default setting :) | 15:33 |
| knome | +s | 15:33 |
| hobgoblin | yea - that would make sense to do | 15:33 |
| knome | but we still have to investigate if that is possible | 15:33 |
| hobgoblin | I guess so - some fiddling with fonts is all I normally do to be honest | 15:34 |
| knome | mmh. | 15:34 |
| knome | the font has been gigantic so far, now we've dropped it to 10 for terminal | 15:34 |
| hobgoblin | but all in all I think it looks good and fits well with other stuff here | 15:34 |
| knome | yup, that's the idea. and thanks! :) | 15:34 |
| hobgoblin | in fact the only issue I have had at all with 12.04 at all is hibernate not working which I assume to be to do with the polkit and a qt app I use looking rubbish - had to install a libgnome package | 15:35 |
| knome | micahg, mr_pouit ^ | 15:35 |
| hobgoblin | but all in all it's been great - I have it running on 3 machines | 15:36 |
| knome | i know nothing about that stuff :) | 15:36 |
| hobgoblin | I only know what I manage to find out :) | 15:36 |
| mr_pouit | Bug #812394 | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812394 | 15:42 |
| hobgoblin | mr_pouit: yea - thought it was that one - saw it yesterday I think, sudo pm-hibernate makes it work, but tbh I don't ever hibernate or suspend - just been trying things to at least help if possible | 15:44 |
| astraljava | micahg: mr_pouit: How is the lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live branch created? Is it one of the branches that are comprised of something else, like ubuntustudio-meta? | 15:59 |
| astraljava | err... sorry. | 15:59 |
| * astraljava is messed up | 15:59 | |
| hobgoblin | wouldn't worry - hobgoblin is too | 16:00 |
| * hobgoblin thought this was the #windows channel and ended up with xubuntu on 3 machines | 16:01 | |
| astraljava | Thanks. It's no news to me, either. I've been clinically insane for 13 years now. :D But in this case, I confused ed with X. | 16:01 |
| knome | NICHT! nobody is allowed to be messed up! | 16:01 |
| knome | micahg, the ubiquity-slideshow is actually also blocked by the TB bug, so if you could rush it just a tiny bit more ;)) | 16:02 |
| knome | like we didn't ask about it too often already | 16:02 |
| hobgoblin | knome: so how do I get the scrollbar to look as nice as the rest - wait or is there something I can do that is not too much like voodoo ... | 16:10 |
| knome | hobgoblin, https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird | 16:10 |
| knome | hobgoblin, download the latest Greybird from Github | 16:11 |
| knome | hobgoblin, direct download link: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tarball/master | 16:11 |
| knome | hobgoblin, then unpack that to ~/.themes/ | 16:11 |
| hobgoblin | mmm - never done that - wouldn't know where to start - almost 5 years using ubuntu and never got anywhere near to using git lol | 16:11 |
| knome | you can just download a package, no need to download via git | 16:12 |
| hobgoblin | but thansk for the direct link :) | 16:12 |
| * hobgoblin types slowly and doesn't look up often :D | 16:12 | |
| * knome types fast and doesn't look down often | 16:12 | |
| hobgoblin | :) | 16:13 |
| hobgoblin | knome: done that - looks the same to me :( | 16:17 |
| knome | right. ochosi ! ^ | 16:17 |
| hobgoblin | shouldn't need to logout or anything should I? | 16:17 |
| knome | no, but you should of course change the theme | 16:18 |
| knome | in appearance | 16:18 |
| hobgoblin | yea :) | 16:18 |
| knome | apart from that, i'm not sure what you should do. | 16:18 |
| hobgoblin | k - then no apparent change here :) | 16:18 |
| knome | anyway, ochosi told me that's fixed, so i'll get back to this with him | 16:19 |
| hobgoblin | ok | 16:19 |
| * hobgoblin will watch with interest off and on over the next few days :) unfortuantely there's not much I can do other than try things and make sure they work - and help others when I can | 16:22 | |
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| micahg | knome: it's not an instant fix | 16:31 |
| micahg | we can probably have a patch for beta 1 | 16:31 |
| knome | okay... | 16:31 |
| micahg | ochosi: re gmusicbrowser> sure, we can get that in next week | 16:32 |
| micahg | hibernate has been a disaster for most users, so I guess it makes sense they're disabling it | 16:33 |
| micahg | ok, do we care about amd64 live being oversized? | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: wait | 16:34 |
| micahg | It's right on the edge, 704 | 16:34 |
| micahg | it might still fit, idk | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | At least until the beta1 image, to see what happens to it | 16:34 |
| knome | hey charlie-tca | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | It is not unusual for us to have oversized alpha images | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | It is normally release noted that an image is oversize and will fit and work from either USB or DVD | 16:35 |
| knome | charlie-tca, madnick needs some input on accessibility on the lightdm theme from you later :) | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | Why wouldn't it be the same as Ubuntu's lightdm? | 16:39 |
| knome | we want to theme it, and madnick has built a greeter engine | 16:39 |
| knome | i think it has something to do with accessibility features being accessible... | 16:39 |
| knome | more than text being readable and so | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | So, what will change on accessibility? Still want to be able to run Onboard, Start ORca, and read the screen, right? | 16:40 |
| knome | yes, i suppose that's the idea :) | 16:40 |
| knome | but we need to wait for madnick to push the code so it's testable | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | Then it should match unity-greeter accessibility | 16:40 |
| knome | right. would you be available for a follow-up with madnick about this later in the cycle? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 16:42 |
| knome | thanks :) | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | yw | 16:43 |
| knome | are you okay, btw? haven't seen you much around lately | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | Yup, just busy with other things that I put off before. | 16:44 |
| knome | okay :) | 16:44 |
| knome | how's testing been? | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | Should be able to be around on Wednesdays, I'm hoping | 16:44 |
| knome | maybe-ubiquity acts nicely? | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | Haven't touched the images for a week | 16:44 |
| knome | mmh, right | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | The tests are all tracked on the QA tracker now, including daily testing | 16:45 |
| knome | mm-hmm :) is that working well for us? | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | As well as any new procedure | 16:46 |
| knome | good to hear it's not a nightmare at least... | 16:47 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: xfburn says 704 won't fit on the cd-r, will burn it to dvd instead | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: it's right too ;) | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, but I really did not want it to be, this time. | 17:01 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, 703.5X is the limit for a CDR | 17:03 |
| charlie-tca | That doesn't make me not want 704 to fit :( | 17:03 |
| micahg | well, I wasn't sure how close our 704 was | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I figured I would try it and let you know | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, too close | 17:04 |
| micahg | ISTR that xfburn won't let you go over 700 anyways | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | I thought it let me burn 702 before | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | But that could be wishful thinking too | 17:12 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: out of interest how is libburnia nowadays? | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | Seems to be working | 17:13 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, the alternate amd64 is a good test, it's at 702 or 702 | 17:18 |
| micahg | *701 | 17:18 |
| GridCube | i cant do alpha2 tests today, will do them tomorrow, its that ok? | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: just got to update the iso tracker for alpha2 when you do them | 19:16 |
| GridCube | :) ok | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 19:19 |
| GridCube | i haven't been able to do much tests lately, my isp isnt being nice and my work download speed tops 1kbs usually :( | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | I understand that one. I get a consistent 160Kps here, or lower | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | hehe, nice, Canonical hired a sysadmin friend of mine ("oh hey, I'm working on your ticket!" "Neat!"!) | 19:33 |
| baizon | xD | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | anyway, link redirects in the works :) | 19:34 |
| knome | pleia2, arrr | 19:35 |
| pleia2 | they will make them work for wp.xubuntu.org (so we can test them now) and then just update them when we go live | 19:35 |
| baizon | nice | 19:36 |
| baizon | will test it tomorrow right away :D | 19:36 |
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| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/brainstorm-20120131-improv.png | 20:12 |
| astraljava | ooohhhh I love that! | 20:19 |
| * astraljava is a big nature fan | 20:19 | |
| knome | mm-hmm. | 20:20 |
| knome | i think we have a winner. | 20:20 |
| knome | now just finalize that. | 20:20 |
| astraljava | Yes PLEASE!!! | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | nice :) | 20:23 |
| knome | thanks | 20:23 |
| madnick | knome: that is nice | 20:28 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft2.png | 21:17 |
| astraljava | Can you tone down the green shimmering a little bit? | 21:20 |
| knome | why? :P | 21:20 |
| astraljava | It's a bit too much. :) | 21:21 |
| * astraljava whispers... "dumb-*ss" | 21:22 | |
| knome | lol | 21:22 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft3.png | 21:22 |
| astraljava | Now it's just darker, overall. | 21:24 |
| knome | no, the green is also more subtle. | 21:27 |
| astraljava | Well, a tad. But too little. | 21:27 |
| knome | MAYBE. | 21:27 |
| knome | but i kind of like that effect | 21:27 |
| knome | don't worry, i'll make it less subtle eventually | 21:28 |
| astraljava | Oh alright. :) | 21:28 |
| knome | i'm sure i will | 21:28 |
| knome | i always get bored to the greens | 21:28 |
| astraljava | But I'm liking it when it's lighter, as in the draft2. | 21:28 |
| knome | overall, i think the vignetting effect is somewhat an improvement | 21:29 |
| astraljava | wiktionary.org knows not of such a word | 21:30 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft4.png | 21:31 |
| knome | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting | 21:31 |
| astraljava | draft4 is better, but I still liked it better when it was lighter. The green amount is good now, IMHO. And thanks, wonder why wiktionary.org didn't know about it. | 21:33 |
| knome | mmh. hard to make the green lighter when there is the vignetting | 21:34 |
| astraljava | Oh, it's there. I must have made a typo. | 21:34 |
| knome | yeah, i know, you suck | 21:34 |
| astraljava | No, don't make the green lighter. Just the overall lightness. | 21:35 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft5.png | 21:35 |
| knome | slightly lighter. | 21:35 |
| knome | i think it still needs some texture | 21:37 |
| knome | and maybe a bird. | 21:37 |
| astraljava | Yeah. But now I like the colors, and the lightness. Nice, mate! :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | looks like a mix between hardy(?) and maverick :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | i mean hardy landscape with a tint of maverick-colors | 21:39 |
| knome | yeah | 21:40 |
| ochosi | well, i guess it's not bad because it gives some style-consistency across releases | 21:40 |
| ochosi | and it'll work well with greybird color-wise | 21:40 |
| ochosi | (and with albatross fwiw) | 21:40 |
| ochosi | maybe not as good with bluebird though | 21:40 |
| knome | yeah, i thought: time to have some nostalgia too | 21:40 |
| knome | yeah | 21:41 |
| ochosi | hehe | 21:41 |
| ochosi | and now add a pangolin | 21:41 |
| knome | lol | 21:41 |
| astraljava | He's over @ #beanpc | 21:44 |
| * knome lols | 21:44 | |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft6.png | 21:44 |
| ochosi | again, ripping off your own design? :) | 21:45 |
| knome | haha, yeah | 21:45 |
| knome | except that's not the same bird | 21:45 |
| ochosi | it just looks like it is | 21:45 |
| knome | haha | 21:46 |
| knome | the wings bend to different way, for example | 21:46 |
| knome | well, how do you make a silhouette of a flying bird looking much different from another? | 21:46 |
| ochosi | use a different type of bird | 21:46 |
| knome | lol | 21:46 |
| knome | i don't want a clumsy bird ;] | 21:47 |
| ochosi | hmm, maybe a pangolin? | 21:47 |
| knome | meh | 21:47 |
| knome | how well that suits to a finnish lake? | 21:47 |
| ochosi | precisely perfect! | 21:48 |
| knome | lol | 21:48 |
| astraljava | The falcon/hawk/seagull/whathaveyou is a tad too "strong". | 22:03 |
| knome | astraljava, yeah. | 22:34 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft7.png | 22:54 |
| astraljava | Now _that's_ gorgeous! | 22:59 |
| knome | yeah, i know. | 22:59 |
| knome | and it's still all-vector | 22:59 |
| astraljava | Man, you _do_ know your sh*t after all. :) | 23:02 |
| knome | heh, sometimes ;) | 23:03 |
| pleia2 | bah, how did wp get set to do /articles/ rather than /news/ for blog posts | 23:45 |
| * pleia2 fixes | 23:45 | |
| knome | hehe | 23:45 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft9.png | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | I don't like birds | 23:48 |
| knome | lol | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | They are a major pain in the morning... | 23:50 |
| knome | our neighbours are. they've woken me up many times by arguing under our window. | 23:50 |
| astraljava | Just what do you do with them in the nights, then? | 23:50 |
| knome | har har | 23:51 |
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