[15:14] micahg: there'll be a new release of gmusicbrowser tomorrow, it'll fix a few issues that are also xubuntu-critical. maybe we could get it through debian before FF? [15:30] anyone in here want some feedback on Pasi's terminalrc blog post? [15:30] * knome wants [15:31] * hobgoblin loves it - almost [15:31] ok, so what's the problem? [15:31] all I would say is the scroll bar looks like an addon - if that could be the same scheme hobgoblin would love it completely [15:31] i know there might be problematic color combinations [15:31] right, that's being fixed in greybird [15:32] or, that's actually fixed already [15:32] i just seem to have an old version of greybird [15:32] for me it looks ok - I suspect people with visual issues mightn't like it - but they are likely to set it up for themselves anyway - perhaps [15:32] mm-hmm [15:33] we are thinking of having an "accessibility" installation choice, that could use the normal color scheme [15:33] and a bigger font... [15:33] knome: excellent then - though I didn't actually have this terminalrc at all here - had to do from scratch [15:33] ah, right :) [15:33] then i suppose you had the default setting :) [15:33] +s [15:33] yea - that would make sense to do [15:33] but we still have to investigate if that is possible [15:34] I guess so - some fiddling with fonts is all I normally do to be honest [15:34] mmh. [15:34] the font has been gigantic so far, now we've dropped it to 10 for terminal [15:34] but all in all I think it looks good and fits well with other stuff here [15:34] yup, that's the idea. and thanks! :) [15:35] in fact the only issue I have had at all with 12.04 at all is hibernate not working which I assume to be to do with the polkit and a qt app I use looking rubbish - had to install a libgnome package [15:35] micahg, mr_pouit ^ [15:36] but all in all it's been great - I have it running on 3 machines [15:36] i know nothing about that stuff :) [15:36] I only know what I manage to find out :) [15:42] Bug #812394 [15:42] Launchpad bug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812394 [15:44] mr_pouit: yea - thought it was that one - saw it yesterday I think, sudo pm-hibernate makes it work, but tbh I don't ever hibernate or suspend - just been trying things to at least help if possible [15:59] micahg: mr_pouit: How is the lp:ubuntu/edubuntu-live branch created? Is it one of the branches that are comprised of something else, like ubuntustudio-meta? [15:59] err... sorry. [15:59] * astraljava is messed up [16:00] wouldn't worry - hobgoblin is too [16:01] * hobgoblin thought this was the #windows channel and ended up with xubuntu on 3 machines [16:01] Thanks. It's no news to me, either. I've been clinically insane for 13 years now. :D But in this case, I confused ed with X. [16:01] NICHT! nobody is allowed to be messed up! [16:02] micahg, the ubiquity-slideshow is actually also blocked by the TB bug, so if you could rush it just a tiny bit more ;)) [16:02] like we didn't ask about it too often already [16:10] knome: so how do I get the scrollbar to look as nice as the rest - wait or is there something I can do that is not too much like voodoo ... [16:10] hobgoblin, https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird [16:11] hobgoblin, download the latest Greybird from Github [16:11] hobgoblin, direct download link: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tarball/master [16:11] hobgoblin, then unpack that to ~/.themes/ [16:11] mmm - never done that - wouldn't know where to start - almost 5 years using ubuntu and never got anywhere near to using git lol [16:12] you can just download a package, no need to download via git [16:12] but thansk for the direct link :) [16:12] * hobgoblin types slowly and doesn't look up often :D [16:12] * knome types fast and doesn't look down often [16:13] :) [16:17] knome: done that - looks the same to me :( [16:17] right. ochosi ! ^ [16:17] shouldn't need to logout or anything should I? [16:18] no, but you should of course change the theme [16:18] in appearance [16:18] yea :) [16:18] apart from that, i'm not sure what you should do. [16:18] k - then no apparent change here :) [16:19] anyway, ochosi told me that's fixed, so i'll get back to this with him [16:19] ok [16:22] * hobgoblin will watch with interest off and on over the next few days :) unfortuantely there's not much I can do other than try things and make sure they work - and help others when I can === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:31] knome: it's not an instant fix [16:31] we can probably have a patch for beta 1 [16:31] okay... [16:32] ochosi: re gmusicbrowser> sure, we can get that in next week [16:33] hibernate has been a disaster for most users, so I guess it makes sense they're disabling it [16:34] ok, do we care about amd64 live being oversized? [16:34] micahg: wait [16:34] It's right on the edge, 704 [16:34] it might still fit, idk [16:34] At least until the beta1 image, to see what happens to it [16:34] hey charlie-tca [16:34] It is not unusual for us to have oversized alpha images [16:35] It is normally release noted that an image is oversize and will fit and work from either USB or DVD [16:37] charlie-tca, madnick needs some input on accessibility on the lightdm theme from you later :) [16:39] Why wouldn't it be the same as Ubuntu's lightdm? [16:39] we want to theme it, and madnick has built a greeter engine [16:39] i think it has something to do with accessibility features being accessible... [16:40] more than text being readable and so [16:40] So, what will change on accessibility? Still want to be able to run Onboard, Start ORca, and read the screen, right? [16:40] yes, i suppose that's the idea :) [16:40] but we need to wait for madnick to push the code so it's testable [16:40] Then it should match unity-greeter accessibility [16:42] right. would you be available for a follow-up with madnick about this later in the cycle? [16:42] yes [16:43] thanks :) [16:43] yw [16:43] are you okay, btw? haven't seen you much around lately [16:44] Yup, just busy with other things that I put off before. [16:44] okay :) [16:44] how's testing been? [16:44] Should be able to be around on Wednesdays, I'm hoping [16:44] maybe-ubiquity acts nicely? [16:44] Haven't touched the images for a week [16:44] mmh, right [16:45] The tests are all tracked on the QA tracker now, including daily testing [16:45] mm-hmm :) is that working well for us? [16:46] As well as any new procedure [16:47] good to hear it's not a nightmare at least... [16:55] micahg: xfburn says 704 won't fit on the cd-r, will burn it to dvd instead [16:59] charlie-tca: it's right too ;) [17:01] Yeah, but I really did not want it to be, this time. [17:03] charlie-tca: well, 703.5X is the limit for a CDR [17:03] That doesn't make me not want 704 to fit :( [17:04] well, I wasn't sure how close our 704 was [17:04] Yeah, I figured I would try it and let you know [17:04] apparently, too close [17:10] ISTR that xfburn won't let you go over 700 anyways [17:12] I thought it let me burn 702 before [17:12] But that could be wishful thinking too [17:12] charlie-tca: out of interest how is libburnia nowadays? [17:13] Seems to be working [17:18] charlie-tca: well, the alternate amd64 is a good test, it's at 702 or 702 [17:18] *701 [19:14] i cant do alpha2 tests today, will do them tomorrow, its that ok? [19:15] sure [19:16] GridCube: just got to update the iso tracker for alpha2 when you do them [19:16] :) ok [19:19] Thanks [19:26] i haven't been able to do much tests lately, my isp isnt being nice and my work download speed tops 1kbs usually :( [19:27] I understand that one. I get a consistent 160Kps here, or lower [19:33] hehe, nice, Canonical hired a sysadmin friend of mine ("oh hey, I'm working on your ticket!" "Neat!"!) [19:34] xD [19:34] anyway, link redirects in the works :) [19:35] pleia2, arrr [19:35] they will make them work for wp.xubuntu.org (so we can test them now) and then just update them when we go live [19:36] nice [19:36] will test it tomorrow right away :D === therealnanotube is now known as nanotube [20:12] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/brainstorm-20120131-improv.png [20:19] ooohhhh I love that! [20:19] * astraljava is a big nature fan [20:20] mm-hmm. [20:20] i think we have a winner. [20:20] now just finalize that. [20:21] Yes PLEASE!!! [20:23] nice :) [20:23] thanks [20:28] knome: that is nice [21:17] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft2.png [21:20] Can you tone down the green shimmering a little bit? [21:20] why? :P [21:21] It's a bit too much. :) [21:22] * astraljava whispers... "dumb-*ss" [21:22] lol [21:22] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft3.png [21:24] Now it's just darker, overall. [21:27] no, the green is also more subtle. [21:27] Well, a tad. But too little. [21:27] MAYBE. [21:27] but i kind of like that effect [21:28] don't worry, i'll make it less subtle eventually [21:28] Oh alright. :) [21:28] i'm sure i will [21:28] i always get bored to the greens [21:28] But I'm liking it when it's lighter, as in the draft2. [21:29] overall, i think the vignetting effect is somewhat an improvement [21:30] wiktionary.org knows not of such a word [21:31] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft4.png [21:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting [21:33] draft4 is better, but I still liked it better when it was lighter. The green amount is good now, IMHO. And thanks, wonder why wiktionary.org didn't know about it. [21:34] mmh. hard to make the green lighter when there is the vignetting [21:34] Oh, it's there. I must have made a typo. [21:34] yeah, i know, you suck [21:35] No, don't make the green lighter. Just the overall lightness. [21:35] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft5.png [21:35] slightly lighter. [21:37] i think it still needs some texture [21:37] and maybe a bird. [21:39] Yeah. But now I like the colors, and the lightness. Nice, mate! :) [21:39] looks like a mix between hardy(?) and maverick :) [21:39] i mean hardy landscape with a tint of maverick-colors [21:40] yeah [21:40] well, i guess it's not bad because it gives some style-consistency across releases [21:40] and it'll work well with greybird color-wise [21:40] (and with albatross fwiw) [21:40] maybe not as good with bluebird though [21:40] yeah, i thought: time to have some nostalgia too [21:41] yeah [21:41] hehe [21:41] and now add a pangolin [21:41] lol [21:44] He's over @ #beanpc [21:44] * knome lols [21:44] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft6.png [21:45] again, ripping off your own design? :) [21:45] haha, yeah [21:45] except that's not the same bird [21:45] it just looks like it is [21:46] haha [21:46] the wings bend to different way, for example [21:46] well, how do you make a silhouette of a flying bird looking much different from another? [21:46] use a different type of bird [21:46] lol [21:47] i don't want a clumsy bird ;] [21:47] hmm, maybe a pangolin? [21:47] meh [21:47] how well that suits to a finnish lake? [21:48] precisely perfect! [21:48] lol [22:03] The falcon/hawk/seagull/whathaveyou is a tad too "strong". [22:34] astraljava, yeah. [22:54] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft7.png [22:59] Now _that's_ gorgeous! [22:59] yeah, i know. [22:59] and it's still all-vector [23:02] Man, you _do_ know your sh*t after all. :) [23:03] heh, sometimes ;) [23:45] bah, how did wp get set to do /articles/ rather than /news/ for blog posts [23:45] * pleia2 fixes [23:45] hehe [23:46] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft9.png [23:48] I don't like birds [23:48] lol [23:48] :) [23:50] They are a major pain in the morning... [23:50] our neighbours are. they've woken me up many times by arguing under our window. [23:50] Just what do you do with them in the nights, then? [23:51] har har