| tomk_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gstBozWfhQ&feature=fvst | 00:01 |
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| === brent_ is now known as bwellsnc | ||
| seawing | I an running kubuntu 11.10 on my lenovo laptop. there is a problem : when I am using the keyboard in any program the cursor will frequently loose focus at random times. it does not do this in my windows partition nor does it do it with a live disk of the same distro. Any suggestions to relieve this frustrating bug would be greatly appriciated. | 01:06 |
| Daskreech | seawing: the cursor loses focus? | 01:12 |
| seawing | meaning I have to click with the mouse to continue typing. | 01:13 |
| seawing | like that window is no longer in focus. | 01:14 |
| Daskreech | and you aren't touching the touchpad while you are typing | 01:14 |
| Daskreech | ? | 01:14 |
| seawing | no. and like I said it doesn't do in when using a live disk. | 01:15 |
| Daskreech | I think you can use ksynaptics to turn off the touchpad when you are typing | 01:15 |
| seawing | let me try that again.... | 01:15 |
| seawing | nope. I checked the box that turns off the touchpad while typing and attempted to type a sentence in a browser and got cut off part way through. | 01:18 |
| seawing | it is really anoying when attempting to type in a hidden password field. | 01:19 |
| Daskreech | Well if it works in the same distro with a live Cd it's a setting since it's the same version that is installed | 01:23 |
| seawing | I dont think that it has to do with the touch pad. I suspect plasma but don't have any reason to back that up. | 01:24 |
| seawing | what other settings might effect this behavior? | 01:25 |
| Daskreech | it can't be plasma | 01:26 |
| seawing | ok. | 01:27 |
| Daskreech | Plasma doesn't do anythign with focus. It would be kwin but unless you have your keyboard remapped I don't see any reason why kwin would be switching windows while you were typing | 01:27 |
| Daskreech | does it happen everytime you are doing a particular password? | 01:27 |
| seawing | no. it hapens when I am typing an email in gmail, typing a document in libra office, typing a password for synaptic, typing a url in kunquror, etc. | 01:29 |
| Daskreech | Does it always happen when you type a password in synaptic? | 01:30 |
| seawing | no, sometimes I can make it through the entire phrase before it loses focus. sometimes I can type a couple sentenses before it happens, sometimes only a couple letters. | 01:31 |
| Daskreech | so it isn't jumping when you do something like press 'e' ? | 01:32 |
| Daskreech | or perhaps pressing two keys at the same time | 01:32 |
| seawing | I'll try that. | 01:33 |
| Daskreech | I'm looking to see if there may be some setting I've overlooked | 01:36 |
| seawing | no. I just tried going through the keyboard and it did it on y so I started over and the next time ie did it on - and the next time I made it all the way to n, | 01:37 |
| Daskreech | wait the installer will run updates as it installs won't it >_< | 01:37 |
| seawing | ? | 01:37 |
| Daskreech | can you pastebin ps aux ? | 01:37 |
| seawing | not sure where that is. | 01:38 |
| Daskreech | !pastebin | 01:38 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:38 |
| Daskreech | open a konsole and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ps aux | pastebinit | 01:39 |
| Daskreech | It will give you a url just paste that URL back here | 01:39 |
| seawing | I am typing from my desktop. I will open this in the laptop. | 01:40 |
| Daskreech | ok | 01:41 |
| seawing_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/824660/ | 01:45 |
| seawing | anything interesting there? | 01:48 |
| Daskreech | Not seeing anything that strikes me as stealing focus | 01:49 |
| Daskreech | Granted Kwin is very good at not handing over focus | 01:49 |
| Daskreech | Do you ever lose focus without typing on the keyboard? | 01:49 |
| seawing | you know it even does it whin I click on the k menu and am browsing for something. | 01:50 |
| Daskreech | Do you know where it loses focus to? | 01:50 |
| seawing | because the k menu closes when you lose focus it is obvious. | 01:50 |
| Daskreech | and the mouse is over the kmenu at that point? | 01:51 |
| seawing | yes. I can't figure out where it goes. it will do it when there is only one window open. | 01:51 |
| Daskreech | Which suggests the desktop. Do you have the desktop in your alt+tab listing? | 01:57 |
| seawing | I don't understand. | 01:57 |
| Daskreech | If you press alt+tab is your desktop one of the options in the list? | 01:58 |
| seawing | no | 01:58 |
| seawing | if all windows are closed alt tab does nothing | 01:58 |
| Daskreech | ah that might be useful if it loses focus you could hold alt+tab to see what grabbed the focus. if it's consistently the desktop then perhaps you have a rogue plasmoid abusing dbus? | 01:59 |
| Daskreech | you can add it in with alt+F2 -> switcher | 01:59 |
| seawing | ok, so I will open several windows and see what happens. | 01:59 |
| Daskreech | or you can add in the desktop :) | 02:05 |
| seawing | I don't follow what you mean about the alt+f2 switcher, but suddenly I cannot recreate the problem. I dont think I changed anything. | 02:07 |
| Daskreech | seawing: alt=tab switcher | 02:07 |
| Daskreech | alt+f2 is the krunner | 02:07 |
| Daskreech | Alt+tab | 02:07 |
| ScottyK | greetings! On the netbook version, how do you change/edit an icon? | 02:10 |
| seawing | I am going to restart it and see if the problem comes back. | 02:10 |
| seawing | THank you for your help by the way. will come back to it later. | 02:11 |
| Daskreech | ScottyK: right click? :-) | 02:13 |
| Daskreech | Probably long click | 02:13 |
| ScottyK | Daskreech - no effect. If I could find something simular to the kickoff launcher, I could get it. But can't find anything like that in the netbook | 02:16 |
| Daskreech | You just want to edit an icon? | 02:17 |
| Daskreech | actually #plasma might be a good place to ask | 02:17 |
| ScottyK | Daskreech - yes. One of the programs I use in WINE has a "?" for the icon. I'd rather it just have the wine goblet icon | 02:18 |
| Daskreech | Check in #plasma I think | 02:19 |
| ScottyK | Daskreech - Roger that, thanks! | 02:20 |
| dabbill | is there something i can install so that when i plug in headphones it kills my normal speakers (hp notebook) right now i have to use alsamixer in a terminal to turn down the volume to my speakers | 02:21 |
| Daskreech | pulseaudio should be able to do that | 02:24 |
| ironfroggy | did the 11.10 update default to gnomes login screen, instead of KDM, for anyone else? | 02:27 |
| James1479 | ironfroggy: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" | 02:30 |
| ironfroggy | thank you | 02:30 |
| dabbill | Deskreech is that whats installed by default with 11.10? | 02:30 |
| ironfroggy | i was really sad to see i'm still getting plasma freezes when i open the kmenu some times, after my 11.10 update :-/ | 02:31 |
| dabbill | Daskreech: there is no slider in the kde mixer for speakers indpendent of the headphones output | 02:33 |
| zorobabel | so Amarok launches on start-up, but it's not in System Settings > Autostart; does anyone know how I can remove it? | 02:43 |
| Daskreech | dabbill: Yes | 02:43 |
| Daskreech | ironfroggy: Desktop effects on? | 02:43 |
| Daskreech | zorobabel: Session autostart perhaps? | 02:44 |
| ironfroggy | Daskreech: no | 02:45 |
| Daskreech | Hmm :-/ | 02:46 |
| Daskreech | ironfroggy: only kickoff freezes the desktop? | 02:46 |
| zorobabel | possibly | 02:48 |
| zorobabel | let me check that | 02:48 |
| ironfroggy | Daskreech: thats been whast i've seen for a while now. on multiple machines, too. | 02:51 |
| ironfroggy | tho both of them were intel gpu thinkpads.. | 02:51 |
| Daskreech | ironfroggy: tried switching to classic menu or lancelot? | 02:54 |
| ironfroggy | i have not. i dont really notice it much, so i never took the initiative | 02:54 |
| ironfroggy | probably because i use the menu so incredibly rarely | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | ironfroggy: alright | 03:04 |
| rufsketch1 | hey all | 03:10 |
| rufsketch1 | how can I upgrade to mysql 5.5? | 03:10 |
| rufsketch1 | withou losing kde | 03:10 |
| Daskreech | !info mysql | 03:10 |
| ubottu | Package mysql does not exist in oneiric | 03:10 |
| Daskreech | !info mysql-server | 03:10 |
| ubottu | mysql-server (source: mysql-5.1): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 6 kB, installed size 96 kB | 03:10 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech 5.5 | 03:10 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech I already have 5.1 | 03:11 |
| Daskreech | https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/mysql | 03:13 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech so how do I install that such that it replaces the current mysql-5.1? | 03:19 |
| rufsketch1 | I tried installing 5.5 from a .deb, but it still retained 5.1 | 03:19 |
| rufsketch1 | and i can't remove all of 5.1 first, because kubuntu needs it | 03:19 |
| Daskreech | !ppa | 03:20 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa | 03:20 |
| Daskreech | !addppa | 03:20 |
| ubottu | Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command « sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details | 03:20 |
| Daskreech | That should help | 03:20 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech right, I know. I'm asking ahead of time if it will replace the old version instead of just installing the new version on top of it | 03:20 |
| Daskreech | Well the person doing that PPA is doing it in preparation of having MySQL 5.5 on Ubuntu so I would think that it's a inplace upgrade | 03:21 |
| Daskreech | but of course I'm speculating | 03:21 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech alright, I'll try it. | 03:22 |
| rufsketch1 | thanks | 03:22 |
| Daskreech | !Info mysql-server precise | 03:23 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech possibly stupid question, but | 03:28 |
| rufsketch1 | The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810 | 03:28 |
| rufsketch1 | I'm not sure what keyserver to specify for gpg | 03:28 |
| Daskreech | It should be on the same website | 03:29 |
| rufsketch1 | ah, found it | 03:29 |
| rufsketch1 | thanks | 03:29 |
| Daskreech | great :) | 03:30 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech urgh. I still get the no pubkey error though | 03:31 |
| Daskreech | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3823246F | 03:32 |
| Daskreech | possibly | 03:32 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech I already did that | 03:34 |
| rufsketch1 | copied and pasted your thing anyway though | 03:34 |
| rufsketch1 | same result | 03:34 |
| Daskreech | Oh then it really doesn't have a public key | 03:34 |
| rufsketch1 | so what do I do? | 03:34 |
| Daskreech | Never mind just suffer through the yes yes I really do want to install this yes I do yes yes ido | 03:34 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech what? | 03:35 |
| Daskreech | You should be able ot install anyway but it will complain endlessly about it not being signed | 03:35 |
| Daskreech | At least as near as I remember | 03:35 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech but doesn't it need to update my repos before I can even tell it what I want to install? | 03:36 |
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| Daskreech | rufsketch1: sudo apt-get update is failing? | 03:37 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech yes, that's the one returning the pgp error | 03:39 |
| Daskreech | ok | 03:39 |
| Daskreech | http://www.stefanoforenza.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/launchpad-updatetar.gz | 03:40 |
| Daskreech | There is a script in there. Extract it and check if it's executable | 03:40 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech the script returns | 03:42 |
| rufsketch1 | cat: keyss: No such file or directory | 03:42 |
| rufsketch1 | rm: cannot remove `keyss': No such file or directory | 03:42 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: run it with sudo | 03:42 |
| rufsketch1 | I did | 03:43 |
| Daskreech | oh? give me a moment | 03:43 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech sure. | 03:46 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: try putting set -e as the line above if [.. "root" ]; | 03:53 |
| Daskreech | Run it again and tell me if you end up with a file named fullsourceslist ? | 03:53 |
| rufsketch1 | alright | 03:54 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech I do end up with fullsourcelist | 03:55 |
| Daskreech | can you pastebin that please? | 03:56 |
| rufsketch1 | http://pastebin.com/vw8bSRYe | 03:56 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech ^ | 03:57 |
| Daskreech | thanks | 03:57 |
| rufsketch1 | no, thank you. | 03:57 |
| Daskreech | !maverick | 03:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 | 03:57 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech what do I do with that? | 03:58 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: :-/ | 03:59 |
| Daskreech | can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 03:59 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech http://pastebin.com/9C08N9jN | 04:00 |
| Daskreech | The PPA isn't in there is it? | 04:01 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech in the sources.list? | 04:07 |
| Daskreech | Correct | 04:07 |
| Daskreech | I don't see the PPA at all | 04:07 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech neither do I | 04:07 |
| rufsketch1 | is that where ppa's generally get stored? | 04:07 |
| Daskreech | or in sources.list.d | 04:09 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech sources.list.d has the ppa | 04:11 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: Woohoo :) pastebin that | 04:12 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech sources.list.d is a director | 04:12 |
| rufsketch1 | y | 04:12 |
| rufsketch1 | directory | 04:12 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech the two relevant files contained therein are | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | clint-fewbar-mysql-maverick.list | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | clint-fewbar-mysql-maverick.list.save | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | do you want me to paste their contents? | 04:13 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: pastebin the .list | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech it contains | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main | 04:13 |
| rufsketch1 | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main | 04:13 |
| Daskreech | Oh hmm | 04:14 |
| Daskreech | Do those exist? | 04:14 |
| Daskreech | ok | 04:17 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech so? | 04:20 |
| Daskreech | Why are you on Maverick? | 04:20 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech because it's my girlfriend's computer, and using a different system would lose a lot of programs she has set up | 04:21 |
| Daskreech | oh? | 04:23 |
| Daskreech | really? | 04:23 |
| Daskreech | like? | 04:23 |
| rufsketch1 | things we've had to compile from source | 04:24 |
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| rufsketch1 | an upgrade is out of the question right now either way. | 04:24 |
| rufsketch1 | I need to get this set up sooner than later | 04:24 |
| Daskreech | alright | 04:25 |
| Daskreech | Pull the lucid packages I would guess | 04:25 |
| Daskreech | change the word maverick in that PPA to say lucid | 04:28 |
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| rufsketch1 | Daskreech alright | 04:30 |
| Daskreech | try the keyserver again and run sudo apt-get update | 04:31 |
| rufsketch1 | update seems to complete | 04:32 |
| Daskreech | alright try your server no | 04:33 |
| === jmichaelx is now known as RobotekIsRigged | ||
| Daskreech | now | 04:33 |
| benbloom | is there a way to preprocess webcam video before it goes out via skype? | 04:33 |
| Daskreech | Call Skype support? | 04:34 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech well, I still have to go and install it | 04:34 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech it doesn't seem to be showing up on apt-cache search | 04:34 |
| benbloom | in windows it's a different app altogether bundled with the webcam. allows you to zoom, and tweak picture | 04:35 |
| Daskreech | rufsketch1: apt-cache policy mysql-server | 04:35 |
| rufsketch1 | Daskreech latest available is suppodly 5.1.49 | 04:36 |
| benbloom | is tehre a way to route my webcam through vlc, in such a way that skype will recognize vlc's output as a webcam? | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1 0 | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe i386 Packages | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | 5.1.49-1ubuntu8 0 | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages | 04:37 |
| rufsketch1 | benbloom yes, but I don't know of any out of the box solutions | 04:37 |
| benbloom | meaning what rufsketch1? | 04:38 |
| rufsketch1 | meaning you might have to hack about a bit. | 04:39 |
| rufsketch1 | benbloom I know skype has a screen capture option | 04:39 |
| rufsketch1 | you could probably screen cap what vlc is showing | 04:39 |
| rufsketch1 | that would be the easiest way | 04:39 |
| === RobotekIsRigged is now known as jmichaelx | ||
| benbloom | but that wouldn't work for streaming would it? I'm hoping to capture my webcam with vlc, process it an dthen use the output from vlc as streaming video | 04:40 |
| benbloom | isn't screen capture for stills only? | 04:41 |
| rufsketch1 | benbloom no | 04:42 |
| rufsketch1 | screen capture transmits video of what's happening on your screen | 04:42 |
| benbloom | haven't used that feature rufsketch1. interesting idea | 04:43 |
| rufsketch1 | Oh yes, I have many of them. | 04:43 |
| seawing | I am still working on the loosing focus issue in 11.10 on my laptop. are there any other suggestions on what settings might be causing the problem? | 05:30 |
| george | helo | 05:36 |
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| stephan | Have to say that I'm really looking forward to Precise. | 05:41 |
| === ceco is now known as vyrgozunqk | ||
| ashes | hello | 06:14 |
| ashes | apt-get and apper seem to be out of sync... i can do an 'apt-get update', and then install a new package, and then apper _always_ complains after about security updates. am i doing things wrong? | 06:16 |
| ashes | i could have eliminated some variables, like do an apper update first, but i don't think that will have an influence | 06:17 |
| ashes | i assume apper and apt-get both use the same database, yes? | 06:17 |
| ashes | is there something else i should use, than apt-get, to install new packages with? i prefer command-line | 06:19 |
| hateball | well apper only checks so often, but if you do a manual check with it after you've installed using apt-get it should report correct | 06:26 |
| ashes | does 'apt-get install' perform any update to my local database? | 06:27 |
| ashes | originally i would do an 'apt-get install', and a minute later i would have a ton of updates from apper. thinking that i was installing old packages, i started doing 'apt-get update' before 'apt-get install', but this problem with apper hasn't gone away | 06:29 |
| ashes | it's more than a coincidence that apper reports that i need updates every time i use 'apt-get install' | 06:30 |
| ashes | it's always unrelated packages | 06:30 |
| ashes | i just installed lm-sensors, and apper wants to update xorg related packages | 06:31 |
| ashes | i might simply be doing things wrong | 06:31 |
| ashes | is what i'm doing an acceptable/efficient way to install new packages and maintain my system? | 06:32 |
| ashes | i have a good understanding of linux, but not kubuntu specifically. i just learned apper is a kde app a few minutes ago | 06:34 |
| ashes | i'm new to ubuntu aswell | 06:34 |
| === hateball_ is now known as hateball | ||
| dahlia | anyone know offhand how to get it so alt-left click gets passed to the application instead of moving the window? blender uses alt-clicks and I cant get it to recognize them | 06:50 |
| dahlia | I looked in system settings but nothing I tried there worked | 06:50 |
| almoxarife | dahlia: i just tried alt left click, got nothing, you added it as a short cut? | 06:52 |
| dahlia | no I just have default kubuntu | 06:52 |
| dahlia | but alt-left moves the whole application window | 06:52 |
| almoxarife | dahlia: you right, i didnt do it correctly the first time | 06:53 |
| dahlia | Ill ask in #kde also | 06:55 |
| zorobabel | hey guys, whenever I try to remove unity and its associated packages either via apt-get or Muon, it insists on installing gnome and associated packages-- how can I, uh, make it not do this? | 07:44 |
| Tm_T | zorobabel: what happens if you ask it (via apt-get) to remove both unity and the gnome stuff it tries to install? | 07:51 |
| zorobabel | I could try but it is somewhat annoying since the gnome stuff is about 30 packages | 07:52 |
| zorobabel | 1here we go | 07:56 |
| almoxarife | zorobabel: there is a easy way to wipe gnome from your system, assuming that you want to go pure kubuntu? | 08:06 |
| zorobabel | yes, I do | 08:08 |
| xcorat | Hi, how can I apply this patch? | 08:09 |
| xcorat | https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee-old/issues/149#issuecomment-3285349 | 08:09 |
| almoxarife | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde | 08:09 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: that's patch for nouveau graphics drivers? | 08:10 |
| zorobabel | looks good | 08:10 |
| xcorat | yeah | 08:10 |
| almoxarife | zorobabel: assuming kubuntu is already installed you would leave the last install portion out | 08:10 |
| zorobabel | yep | 08:11 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: you need to get nouveau sources, apply the patch to the sources, and then build the drivers | 08:11 |
| almoxarife | zorobabel: one thing, if you need any apps from gnome after the fact they will need to be re-installed, most likely | 08:11 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: ...you have previous experience on compiling applications from sources? | 08:11 |
| xcorat | Tm_T:you mean like ./config->make stuff? or somthin diff? | 08:12 |
| Tm_T | that, yes | 08:12 |
| xcorat | Tm_T:whats the deal with diff file? how can I apply the patch, idk much | 08:12 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: maybe this explains? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch-file-using-patch-command/ | 08:14 |
| xcorat | @Tm_T: so you just get download the files and the patch, and run patch < the input file path? | 08:18 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: yeah, but compiling nouveau drivers isn't that simple job I'm afraid | 08:19 |
| xcorat | hm.. :) | 08:19 |
| xcorat | i figured | 08:19 |
| xcorat | i might try. | 08:19 |
| Tm_T | xcorat: if you're up for the challenge, go for it, only way to learn is to do (: | 08:19 |
| xcorat | thats true.. but im wondering if its worth it. It seems there's no support yet for lenovo y470. | 08:20 |
| xcorat | thanks a lot | 08:20 |
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| viKtor_ | hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons | 10:51 |
| viKtor_ | hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons | 10:53 |
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| Back5nux71 | bonjour | 12:28 |
| Back5nux71 | you ou | 12:29 |
| FlashDeluxe | hi! does anybody know a good tool for generating and encoding barcodes? | 12:48 |
| James147 | FlashDeluxe: never used it, but kbarcode might work | 12:51 |
| James147 | o wait, thats old :S | 12:51 |
| FlashDeluxe | yes^^ i would like to have one thats still supported :) | 12:52 |
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| Guest47536 | 1,1... | 12:54 |
| James147 | FlashDeluxe: cant really find any decent user end tools that are still updated, but there are a few libraries out there | 13:03 |
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| robertzaccour | If I use Banshee will the Gnome libs use a lot of my RAM? | 13:23 |
| James147 | robertzaccour: depends on what you define as allot ^^ Though they should use that much | 13:26 |
| robertzaccour | oh ok thanks | 13:27 |
| robertzaccour | I figured out how to make playlists in Amarok nevermind I'm good :) thanks anyways | 13:28 |
| robertzaccour | and wasn't sure about chromium web browser, but I wasn't about to stick with rekonq haha | 13:29 |
| zlozlz | hello, is there a tool that allows to send screenshots directly to imgur? | 13:37 |
| jussi | zlozlz: yes, use the pastebin plasmoid, take a screenshot and drag and drop it there | 13:49 |
| zlozlz | jussi: cool thanks | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | hi all | 14:20 |
| Grotz | hello there | 14:23 |
| Grotz | can anyone help me with some noobie questions? maybe in german? cus my english is realy bad =P | 14:25 |
| bazhang | Grotz, #ubuntu-de for German | 14:26 |
| Lynoure | Grotz: there might even be #kubuntu-de | 14:26 |
| bazhang | Grotz, you can certainly ask in english here though | 14:26 |
| Grotz | ah, ok. thank u guys | 14:26 |
| bazhang | !de | 14:26 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 14:26 |
| bazhang | yep | 14:26 |
| dnovikov | @seek | 14:28 |
| dnovikov | @seek opera | 14:28 |
| bazhang | dnovikov, need some help? | 14:28 |
| dnovikov | Thanks, | 14:29 |
| dnovikov | trying to remember how IRC works | 14:29 |
| dnovikov | THere is any FAQ? | 14:29 |
| bazhang | dnovikov, for your irc client? for freenode generally? | 14:30 |
| babalu | how can i get a good security for my computer? is there to know whether or not my computer is keylogged? | 14:31 |
| babalu | * | 14:31 |
| dnovikov | probably for the client. I'll google it | 14:31 |
| babalu | a way | 14:31 |
| bazhang | !crosspost | babalu | 14:31 |
| ubottu | babalu: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 14:31 |
| babalu | bazhang: sorry | 14:32 |
| bazhang | dnovikov, #quassel is here on freenode | 14:32 |
| Grotz | hmmm, maybe all afk in kubuntu-de. =D i will try my luck on english. and i'm sorry, im realy noob with computersystems. my first question is, how to install software on kubuntu 11.10? i found some informations about software-center and synaptic but i think this isnt the right one for kubuntu oO | 14:32 |
| bazhang | Grotz, from the package manager? from the command line (ie konsole)? | 14:33 |
| bazhang | !info muon | 14:33 |
| ubottu | muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB | 14:33 |
| Grotz | i think i'm looking for an manager | 14:33 |
| Grotz | !info muon | 14:34 |
| ubottu | muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB | 14:34 |
| Grotz | argh xD | 14:34 |
| Grotz | ok, this thing is crashing all times | 14:34 |
| bazhang | Grotz, muon is? | 14:34 |
| Grotz | segmentation fault (11) | 14:34 |
| jovin | try dpkg --configure -a | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | Grotz, don't use muon , it's broken | 14:37 |
| kbroulik | BluesKaj: lol | 14:37 |
| Grotz | jovin where?^^ | 14:37 |
| jovin | in terminal | 14:37 |
| bazhang | BluesKaj, what would be a good alternative | 14:37 |
| Grotz | ah ok | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | lol? it's not funny , it's a fact :) | 14:37 |
| jovin | fixed it for me | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | synaptic adept or even apt-get in the terminal | 14:37 |
| jovin | muon works fine | 14:38 |
| kbroulik | BluesKaj: the UI, definitly. but at least the auto updater works in contrast to apper/kpackagekit^^ | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | despends on your updates and upgrades | 14:38 |
| Grotz | jovin, its told me that i need super user rights | 14:38 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 14:38 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 14:38 |
| jovin | type sudo | 14:38 |
| jovin | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 14:39 |
| Grotz | ok, asked for pw. typed it in... thats all... new bashline. nothing more | 14:39 |
| BluesKaj | I use synaptic as an installer for meta stuff , butr mostly as a reference for info about available packages., all my upsates/upgrades are with apt-get | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | jovin, that's good , no errors | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | phat phingers | 14:40 |
| jovin | Grotz do this: | 14:41 |
| jovin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/915235/comments/4 | 14:41 |
| Grotz | ok, how to find/install new software now?^^ im realy noobie windows user. i only know how to dbl click an exe =P | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 915235 in muon (Ubuntu) "muon-installer crash" [High,Confirmed] | 14:41 |
| davide | n | 14:42 |
| davide | italians? | 14:43 |
| belfist | Hi guyz | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | !it | 14:43 |
| ubottu | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 14:43 |
| belfist | I've got a silyl problem | 14:43 |
| davide | thanks | 14:43 |
| belfist | I added a facebook widget and i cant remove it | 14:44 |
| belfist | I accidently addet it to a panel, not on the desktop | 14:45 |
| belfist | How can I remove it? | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | right click on it remove this widget | 14:45 |
| belfist | when i do that, there is only one option - reload | 14:46 |
| belfist | ooohhh i got it | 14:46 |
| belfist | it messed up my panel | 14:46 |
| belfist | i just had to right-click a few pixels away to do that | 14:47 |
| belfist | ;) | 14:47 |
| belfist | thanks! | 14:47 |
| belfist | Oh, and by the way, I found the way to install World Of Warcraft on kubuntu (installation on download) and i made it work perfectly! Someone wants to know how? :D | 14:48 |
| Grotz | uncomment means del "# " ? | 14:48 |
| belfist | @Grotz - Yes | 14:49 |
| Torch | belfist: double clicked the installer? ;-) | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | belfist, Vbox ? | 14:49 |
| bazhang | Grotz, correct | 14:49 |
| belfist | No, installing wow is not that simple ;D | 14:49 |
| belfist | I used wine, and wine tricks. | 14:49 |
| Torch | belfist: weird. it has been for me. | 14:49 |
| belfist | YOu didn't have problems with p2p downloading? | 14:50 |
| belfist | Launcher.exe was working fine? | 14:50 |
| Torch | belfist: yeah, i turned off p2p some time after 4.2 or so. | 14:50 |
| Torch | belfist: that problem hasn't always existed. | 14:50 |
| Grotz | argh, need some write rights =/ | 14:50 |
| Torch | belfist: see the wine app db page about it. | 14:50 |
| belfist | I had to install directx dlls as well - | 14:51 |
| Torch | belfist: i don't remember doing that. also, make it use opengl. | 14:51 |
| belfist | That's the point! | 14:51 |
| Grotz | how to get the rights to edit sources.list?^^ | 14:52 |
| belfist | when I used "wine wow,exe -opengl" It crashed after few minutes - with segmentation fault. | 14:52 |
| belfist | @grotz use sude gedit <filepath> | 14:52 |
| belfist | i mean | 14:52 |
| belfist | sudo gedit <filepath> | 14:52 |
| bazhang | kdesu kate for kubuntu | 14:53 |
| belfist | And when I just used wine without opengl, It worked perefctly! On fullhd with all effects. | 14:53 |
| Torch | no kdesu in kubuntu ;-) | 14:53 |
| Torch | kdesudo it is. | 14:53 |
| bazhang | thanks there Torch | 14:53 |
| belfist | aah, youre right. I forgot sometimes, that i use kde ;D | 14:54 |
| belfist | I was using gnome, but installed kde. SOme programs are pissing me off. | 14:54 |
| belfist | For instance - when I finish downloading something by firefox, and want to open pathfile, nautilius opens ;/ | 14:55 |
| Grotz | belfist, command gedit not found | 14:56 |
| Grotz | argh my fault | 14:56 |
| Grotz | ok not ^^ | 14:57 |
| Grotz | cant find the command | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , Grotz | 14:57 |
| Grotz | ah ok | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | Guys don't give parial commands like kdesudo , give athe whole caommand and address the person you're directing the help by his nick please , thanks | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | partial | 14:59 |
| belfist | Cya later guys! | 14:59 |
| * belfist going away | 14:59 | |
| Grotz | muon ist starting now. thank you all for your help | 15:08 |
| ironfroggy | after my update to 11.10 i no longer get notifications from gtk applications properly, they come up as plain X dialogs instead, and i can't find a way to even turn them off. what might have broken in the update that i could look into? | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, reset your package manager repository , and be sure to enable canonical partners | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | then update and upgrade , ironfroggy | 15:13 |
| txomon | hi, which is the minimal package to install all the kubuntu desktop without installing kdm? | 15:14 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: thanks, but i'm not sure where to do that exactly. i thought you were referring to some things the update might have disabled in sources.list but i dont see anything mentioning canonical | 15:16 |
| ironfroggy | that is, nothing that isnt already enabled. | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, which kubuntu version ? | 15:17 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: 11.10, just upgraded from 11.04 | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | best to open your package manager to do the changes, ironfroggy , the manager will add the deb to sources.list | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, I recommend synaptic , it's the easiest to use for editing IMO | 15:21 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: i dont use any package manager, i have always used apt-get directly | 15:21 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: i'm still not sure what i'm actually trying to accomplish, via a package manager or directly. | 15:22 |
| ironfroggy | all my packages are up to date, i've got the canonical repositories included. | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, well lately when upgrading , the sources.list is no longer updated with the canonical partners and 3rd part software sources , as previously...the devs want ppl to use the package manager since trying to appeal to GUI type users | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | ok ironfroggy run sudo dpkg --configure -a , no output means no errors | 15:24 |
| ironfroggy | no errors then | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | ok , ironfroggy , try an update | 15:25 |
| ironfroggy | have already done so, and just did it again | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, pastebin your upgrade errors | 15:26 |
| txomon | So anyone knows here about kubuntu-desktop without the kdm? | 15:27 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: i dont have any upgrade errors | 15:27 |
| ironfroggy | there is nothing to upgrade, i just did a dist-upgrade so everything is up to date. | 15:27 |
| Torch | txomon: probably need to try something like kdelibs and the base and workspace packages for kde | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, err I mean update of course | 15:28 |
| Torch | txomon: also, you could install kdm and just carry on using a different login manager, but i'm sure you're aware of that | 15:28 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: also no errors | 15:29 |
| txomon | Torch: I thought about installing kubuntu-desktop, but that is now what I was looking for | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, if you don't have any gtk apps that need updating/upgrading then the notifier won't notify | 15:29 |
| txomon | Torch: also thought about kde-plasma-desktop | 15:30 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: do you mean the triggers that setup notifications from gtk apps to the KDE notifications happen on install or update of those gtk app packages? | 15:30 |
| Torch | txomon: i'm afraid i can't tell you off the top of my head how these packages are laid out and you can just look that up yourself as well, don't need me to do it ;-) | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, yes if you have the package manager notfier turned on | 15:31 |
| Torch | txomon: my advice would be install kubuntu-desktop and set whatever login manager suits you. or try kdm, it's actually very good. | 15:32 |
| txomon | Torch: I already tried kubuntu-desktop package, but having installed kdm, is much more weighty than lightdm | 15:32 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: how can i make sure i have that enabled? | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | txomon, a login manager isn't a big deal , just use one or the other | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, check muon or apper whichever default package mangers you have installed | 15:34 |
| Torch | txomon: iirc kdm is a few hundred _kilobytes_ big, is it not? | 15:35 |
| eeanm | is there a kubuntu repo somewhere with PublicTransport packaged? | 15:35 |
| txomon | Torch: yes, but interacts with my system some way, I have had quite real problems with it. Each time I boot the computer, it starts with one of them | 15:36 |
| Torch | txomon: like, for instance? | 15:37 |
| txomon | Torch: lightdm lxdm kdm | 15:37 |
| txomon | goes around those three | 15:37 |
| Torch | txomon: no, i was referring to the problems you had with kdm... which were those? | 15:37 |
| txomon | Torch: I don't like it ;) | 15:38 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 15:38 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 15:38 |
| txomon | the idea is that the *dm interact between them | 15:38 |
| Torch | txomon: they do? | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | txomon, if you're going to run kubuntu desktop , run kdm ...it's only there for the time you login | 15:39 |
| ironfroggy | BluesKaj: i'm slightly confused now, actually, but also very sorry to keep being dense about this. what does this problem have to do with the package managers, exactly? | 15:40 |
| txomon | BluesKaj: but I want _just_ to use lightdm | 15:40 |
| txomon | but ok | 15:40 |
| txomon | I will install kubuntu-desktop | 15:41 |
| txomon | hope the problem was with lxdm | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | txomon, well if lightdm doesn't work then you have to make a choice | 15:41 |
| txomon | BluesKaj: it does work perfectly | 15:41 |
| txomon | kubuntu crashes | 15:41 |
| Torch | txomon: i would appreciate if you just could tell us what the _problem_ really is you're trying to solve. | 15:42 |
| Torch | txomon: is it weight? bugs? or just weird preferences? | 15:42 |
| txomon | Torch: let the user choose between gnome and kde | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, the package manager now also edits the sources.list , but doesn't update the repos listed there when you upgrade for some reason it's being neglected. | 15:42 |
| txomon | without installing superfluous packages | 15:43 |
| Torch | txomon: don't use kubuntu if that is top of your list. | 15:43 |
| txomon | it is like installing lubuntu-core | 15:43 |
| txomon | there is not a kubuntu-core | 15:44 |
| txomon | just kubuntu-desktop | 15:44 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, however when you update the repos in the package manager , it's actually the app that apt and dpkg look at for the sources | 15:44 |
| ironfroggy | also, wth | 15:44 |
| ironfroggy | suddenly i'm getting notifications from pidgin | 15:45 |
| ironfroggy | i dont know what i did that made a difference. | 15:45 |
| ironfroggy | but its not KDE notifications still... halfway there maybe | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | ironfroggy, after that dpkg looks at the sources.list for any ppas etc that you may have added manually | 15:46 |
| txomon | so, my question, is : "Is there any minimal package containing the desktop, and not kdm etc" ? | 15:47 |
| Tm_T | txomon: just the desktop, no apps, tools etc? | 15:49 |
| Tm_T | there's package "plasma-desktop" that provides you that desktop and the panels and (basic) widgets | 15:50 |
| txomon | tm_T, no kdm, just no kdm | 15:51 |
| Tm_T | txomon: then no | 15:53 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 16:08 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 16:08 |
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| FloodBotK2 | !netsplit | 17:10 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 17:10 |
| sky100 | hi | 17:15 |
| sky100 | im new in kubuntu | 17:15 |
| sky100 | how to refresh in kubuntu | 17:17 |
| Daskreech | sky100: refresh what? | 17:17 |
| Daskreech | Welcome to Kubuntu :) | 17:18 |
| sky100 | refresh the page itself | 17:21 |
| sky100 | im on xchat , suddenly it hanged | 17:21 |
| sky100 | so i had to close the programme itself | 17:21 |
| sky100 | & start it all over | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | sky100, refresh the "page" itself? | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | that'd imply you're on a web site | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | if you mean restart a program, you just did it right | 17:22 |
| Daskreech | EvilResistance: no it doesn't | 17:22 |
| EvilResistance | Daskreech, given they stated "xchat" the term "page" does not apply | 17:23 |
| Daskreech | Applications can have pages without being in the interwebs :) | 17:23 |
| Daskreech | Channel might be a better term :) | 17:23 |
| sky100 | like in WINDOWS we used to press F or right click the mouse to get refresh option | 17:23 |
| EvilResistance | not in xchat. | 17:23 |
| sky100 | f5 | 17:23 |
| sky100 | F5 * | 17:23 |
| EvilResistance | sky100, i'm a tiny bit confuzled with what you're having the problem in. In what program is this error occurring? | 17:24 |
| Daskreech | Xchat :) | 17:24 |
| EvilResistance | there is no refresh option in xchat | 17:24 |
| EvilResistance | never has been | 17:24 |
| sky100 | no not in xchat | 17:24 |
| EvilResistance | sky100, firefox? | 17:24 |
| ktmiradio | irc://irc.freenode.net/#rivendell | 17:24 |
| Daskreech | sky100: Though if Xchat is hung (i.e. doesn't respond to anything) then trying ot refresh it won't make a difference. Since it's not responding | 17:24 |
| sky100 | im speaking on the KUBUNTU os | 17:24 |
| Daskreech | sky100: depends on the application in question. Konversation doesn't have a refresh pers e | 17:25 |
| Daskreech | though if you flip to a different channel and flip back then it will redraw the view | 17:25 |
| sky100 | Daskreech, : i was just searching for a refresh option in KUBUNTU | 17:26 |
| Daskreech | sky100: Ah for the whole screen? | 17:26 |
| sky100 | yup | 17:26 |
| Daskreech | alt+shift+F12 would work | 17:26 |
| sky100 | cool | 17:26 |
| Daskreech | Tecnically that turns desktop effects on and off | 17:26 |
| sky100 | ok ty Daskreech | 17:26 |
| Daskreech | but it also redraws the whole screen | 17:26 |
| sky100 | i see | 17:27 |
| sky100 | as the Xchat suddenly hanged , so i wanted to close the programme but it was not even getting closed.. | 17:27 |
| sky100 | so I had restart the computer | 17:28 |
| sky100 | i had to * | 17:28 |
| EvilResistance | hmm... i wonder if that's anything similar to what happens on my systems when sectors start dying en masse... | 17:29 |
| EvilResistance | since i have random hangs when my hard drive isheaded to its death... | 17:29 |
| Daskreech | sky100: could you open a new program? | 17:29 |
| sky100 | Daskreech, : yeah i can | 17:29 |
| sky100 | as I started the pc | 17:30 |
| sky100 | re* | 17:30 |
| Daskreech | sky100: if you click the X button and wait 30 or so seconds then the program will give you the option to close it | 17:30 |
| sky100 | ok | 17:30 |
| Daskreech | If that still doesn't work you can press alt+ctrl+Esc to get the Kill Cursor | 17:30 |
| Daskreech | Click on anything and it will kill it | 17:30 |
| sithlord48 | hello #kubuntu! | 17:31 |
| Daskreech | EvilResistance: Possibly. if it's the same sector dying then the same program will always hang. If it's your RAM dying well then you get disco balls of lights and fury | 17:31 |
| Daskreech | Hi sithlord48 | 17:31 |
| sithlord48 | whats going on today out there in kubuntu land? | 17:32 |
| sky100 | Daskreech, i tried that Kill cursor | 17:32 |
| EvilResistance | Daskreech, and if your hardware is burning itself, you have the potential to have a mysterious ball of blue smoke coming out of the computer :P | 17:32 |
| sithlord48 | its called xkill (so you know in the future) | 17:32 |
| sky100 | & by mistake i applied on desktop.. | 17:32 |
| sky100 | now i cant see any icon on desktop | 17:32 |
| sky100 | :| | 17:32 |
| sky100 | how to get it back | 17:33 |
| sithlord48 | sky100: you want to press alt+f2 (for run box) then run "plasma-desktop" | 17:33 |
| Daskreech | sky100: press alt+F2 and type plasma-desktop | 17:33 |
| Daskreech | Press esc to cancel the Kill Cursor | 17:33 |
| sky100 | yup | 17:33 |
| Daskreech | don't click on the desktop :) | 17:33 |
| sky100 | got back | 17:34 |
| Daskreech | sithlord48: KDE 4.8! | 17:34 |
| sithlord48 | 12.04 alpha over here | 17:34 |
| Daskreech | EvilResistance: I had blue electricity shoot out the back of the powersupply. No Smoke yet | 17:34 |
| sithlord48 | on my netbook , running so very nice (11.10 on desktop w/ kde 4.8 too) | 17:34 |
| Daskreech | sithlord48: Well then install KDE 4.9 :-p | 17:34 |
| EvilResistance | Daskreech, i was working on a client's computer, and was going to power-test the power supply so I had it open (I am trained to work on them), and one of the big capacitors explodified right in my face | 17:35 |
| sithlord48 | thats bad. | 17:35 |
| Daskreech | Ha! take that degree!! I laugh in the face of paper! | 17:35 |
| Daskreech | Hopefully you were not close to it when it did that | 17:36 |
| Daskreech | clay type capacitors can be really sharp | 17:36 |
| sky100 | ty so much Daskreech | 17:36 |
| EvilResistance | i was... close... but not injured | 17:36 |
| EvilResistance | well that's not true... i had an injury to my hand | 17:37 |
| EvilResistance | a decent sized burn | 17:37 |
| sithlord48 | i got one of those once from getting battery goop on my hand , not fun .. | 17:37 |
| EvilResistance | yours was an acid burn. mine was an explosion burn | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | *shrugs* | 17:39 |
| sithlord48 | oh was thinking you got chem burn from cap goop | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | nope, the thing literally exploded | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | while hooked up to 120v power | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | so... | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | that explains the explosion, but i should have been able to just tell... | 17:39 |
| EvilResistance | by looking at the caps on the capacitors... | 17:40 |
| EvilResistance | they were puffy xD | 17:40 |
| sithlord48 | yes we replace lots of parts @ my job cause of failed caps. but no one ever wants to listen to me when i say its a cap solder a new one on and save the <insane board price> | 17:40 |
| Daskreech | sky100: Sure :) anything else you would like to know? | 17:41 |
| sky100 | will try to know a lot , Daskreech , but as for now its all ok | 17:42 |
| sky100 | ty for your co-operation | 17:42 |
| sky100 | im all new to whole LINUX stuff | 17:42 |
| sithlord48 | its ok we were all new at some point | 17:43 |
| sky100 | so will be having issues on a regular basis .... | 17:43 |
| sky100 | oh , yea sithlord48 | 17:43 |
| sithlord48 | don't treat it like a windows machine , and learn anew :D | 17:43 |
| sky100 | ty for kind words | 17:43 |
| Daskreech | sky100: welcome to Linux and KDE as well :) | 17:44 |
| sky100 | yeah.. thats what is the first thing to learn... | 17:44 |
| EvilResistance | sithlord48, you do have to be careful with some of those things... soldering a new cap onto an already-failed capacitor can be bad sometimes | 17:44 |
| EvilResistance | namely due to the capacitor needing replacing | 17:44 |
| sky100 | TY Daskreech | 17:44 |
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| sithlord48 | oh yes i ment whole capacitor | 17:45 |
| Daskreech | sky100: Are you used to XChat? | 17:47 |
| sithlord48 | im no electronics expert when it comes to soldering or making circets but i have the basics down , more a computer science type | 17:47 |
| EvilResistance | sithlord48, yeah, but with power supplies you sometimes have to replace the whole board | 17:47 |
| EvilResistance | or the entire PSU | 17:47 |
| sky100 | yep Daskreech | 17:47 |
| sky100 | im using xchat | 17:47 |
| Daskreech | sky100: Ah figured :) | 17:47 |
| EvilResistance | mainly because exploding capacitors usually short themselves out after the explosion | 17:47 |
| sithlord48 | mine are usually on motor pwb and stuff like that. i fix office equpment like copiers, printers, etc.. | 17:47 |
| sithlord48 | sky100: how long u been using kubuntu for ? and this is your first linux distro? | 17:49 |
| Daskreech | sky100: as a friendly tip use alt+F2 it will make your life much happier | 17:49 |
| sithlord48 | yes krunner (what alt+f2 opens) is very usefull | 17:49 |
| sithlord48 | i found out that i can control amarok from it the other day by typing in a song i want to hear . from my collection, it doesn't even have to be in the playlist. | 17:50 |
| sky100 | BRB | 17:50 |
| sky100 | ON PHONE | 17:50 |
| sithlord48 | does anyone here use SPDIF (optical) for sound output? | 17:51 |
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| sithlord48 | j/w what possible issues im gonna have when i try to use my new headphones w/ my computer. | 17:51 |
| === change is now known as lethu | ||
| sky100 | sithlord48, : im using kubuntu for last one month or so... | 17:58 |
| sky100 | & this is my 1st distro | 17:58 |
| sky100 | though i tried with PCLINUXOS | 17:59 |
| sky100 | but could not configure my wireless broadband on it | 17:59 |
| sky100 | so had to desert it .. | 17:59 |
| Daskreech | So second but first one you could stick with | 17:59 |
| sky100 | yup | 17:59 |
| Daskreech | One month is a good time. Gets you used to a lot of things | 18:00 |
| sky100 | gradually im getting used to... | 18:02 |
| sky100 | Daskreech, im enjoying it... | 18:02 |
| sky100 | brb | 18:02 |
| Daskreech | ok | 18:02 |
| sky100 | so will be hopping in here frequently, Daskreech | 18:04 |
| sky100 | :d | 18:04 |
| Daskreech | Great :) if you see me on you can just ping me | 18:04 |
| sky100 | SURE Daskreech | 18:05 |
| bo | hey | 18:24 |
| Daskreech | hay | 18:24 |
| markus | moin | 18:25 |
| Daskreech | hi | 18:25 |
| sky100 | ok Daskreech , ty again .. | 18:58 |
| Daskreech | Sure | 18:58 |
| sky100 | cya soon | 18:58 |
| Daskreech | Bye :) | 18:58 |
| sky100 | Bye... | 18:58 |
| sky100 | will be interested to know to work on a VM | 18:59 |
| sky100 | can ya helo me on that on my next visit ? | 18:59 |
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| sky100 | help* | 18:59 |
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| Daskreech | sky100: sure. install virtualbox | 19:01 |
| Daskreech | !info virtualbox | 19:01 |
| ubottu | virtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 15440 kB, installed size 44948 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 all) | 19:01 |
| sky100 | ok im all noober abt VM | 19:02 |
| * picogalli has quit | 19:02 | |
| sky100 | so pls help me out on this on tomorrow.. | 19:02 |
| Daskreech | sky100: try it out. It's pretty simple to follow once you know what a VM is | 19:02 |
| sky100 | ok | 19:02 |
| Daskreech | But of course if you need s-more help that's what we are all here for | 19:03 |
| sky100 | its an OS in OS | 19:03 |
| Daskreech | It's an OS in a computer in an OS :) | 19:03 |
| Daskreech | The M part of VM is important | 19:03 |
| sky100 | ok | 19:03 |
| sky100 | iit cnsumes a lot of mem | 19:04 |
| sky100 | consumes* | 19:04 |
| sky100 | im running with 1.25GB of RAM | 19:04 |
| Daskreech | Well that's part of having a machine in a machine. You need enough resources for it | 19:07 |
| Daskreech | You can try qemu but that's much more difficult to understand | 19:07 |
| sohussain | hey! need a recommendations on creating a backup of my locally installed OS | 19:08 |
| sohussain | need rec..* | 19:08 |
| sky100 | like i said i have 1.25GB of RAM | 19:08 |
| Daskreech | well make a VM with 300 Megs of RAM then. Not sure what you can do to playwith that but you can do a headless LInux for example | 19:09 |
| Daskreech | sohussain: What are you backing up? | 19:09 |
| sohussain | basically i would like to create a backup of my local Os i.e. Kubuntu 11.10, i have seperated my "Home" to another partition, so the backup should be small enough | 19:11 |
| Daskreech | !backup | 19:12 |
| ubottu | There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning | 19:12 |
| sky100 | ok Daskreech | 19:12 |
| sky100 | GNIGHT | 19:12 |
| sky100 | tc , cya | 19:12 |
| Daskreech | Good nigh | 19:12 |
| sohussain | could you recommend one which would be appropriate to create a one time backup, which could be restored if ever my OS blows up? | 19:14 |
| sohussain | i.e. backup to maybe a new parition or external USB drive | 19:15 |
| Daskreech | !cloning | 19:15 |
| ubottu | To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate | 19:15 |
| Daskreech | might be easier and then just backup your /etc | 19:16 |
| Daskreech | but bacula is pretty good | 19:16 |
| Daskreech | !info bacula | 19:16 |
| ubottu | bacula (source: bacula): network backup, recovery and verification - meta-package. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.3-1ubuntu5 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB | 19:16 |
| sohussain | Thank you, would that also back up my drivers and system setting? | 19:17 |
| BluesKaj | bacula has a lot of options according to it's description in synaptic | 19:18 |
| sohussain | Thnak you, i'll di right in :) | 19:20 |
| sohussain | dig* | 19:20 |
| excognac | hi all | 19:30 |
| sohussain | hi | 19:32 |
| Daskreech | hai | 19:33 |
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| heinkel_111 | hey, just a question: in kubuntu, what is the recommended file location for files to be shared between many users? | 20:34 |
| heinkel_111 | i am configuring a media server daemon | 20:34 |
| heinkel_111 | need to share media files such as music, video, pictures on the local network | 20:34 |
| heinkel_111 | the media server runs on its own user name (as a daemon usually does afaik( | 20:35 |
| Daskreech | in /usr ? | 20:37 |
| Daskreech | Unless you are updating it often then /var | 20:38 |
| heinkel_111 | Daskreech: would you stuff the music files into a /usr/media/music, for example? | 20:39 |
| heinkel_111 | or /usr/share/media/music? | 20:39 |
| em | What is the difference between kubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-addons ? | 20:39 |
| Daskreech | I'd do it under share | 20:39 |
| Daskreech | !info kubuntu-restricted-addons | 20:40 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-restricted-addons (source: ubuntu-restricted-addons): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB | 20:40 |
| Daskreech | em: I think they are the same | 20:40 |
| Kimlaroux | if the media server runs on it's own username, why not place the stuff into it's home directory? | 20:40 |
| em | !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | 20:41 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 56 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB | 20:41 |
| em | they seem different. | 20:41 |
| em | one is version 8 and one is version 56 | 20:41 |
| Kimlaroux | em, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/kubuntu-restricted-addons | 20:42 |
| Kimlaroux | "You should not install this package directly, but instead install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package." | 20:42 |
| heinkel_111 | Daskreech: alternative options, keep the files in home directory of each individual user and make them accessible to a group which can be read by the mediaserver daemon. Is that more tidy? | 20:42 |
| em | Kimlaroux: oh wow. I wonder why | 20:43 |
| Kimlaroux | bah, this is Ubuntu, it's often better not to ask about those things | 20:43 |
| Daskreech | em: I think they just changed the name of the package and kept the old one around in case anyone is doing updates | 20:44 |
| Daskreech | heinkel_111: If it's an aggregate solution I suppose you could do that | 20:44 |
| Daskreech | em: so compatibilty for people upgrading from old LTS releases | 20:45 |
| em | Why is kubuntu-restricted-extras installing all this lib32 stuff when my machine is a 64 bit machine? | 20:45 |
| Kimlaroux | are you running 64 bits ubuntu? | 20:46 |
| em | Kimlaroux: I sure hope so. How can I be sure? | 20:47 |
| em | Linux leibniz 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 20:47 |
| Kimlaroux | uname -a | 20:47 |
| em | that's what Ive got there ^ | 20:47 |
| Kimlaroux | meh, then it's installing the 32 bits libs because there arent's 64 bits libs available | 20:48 |
| em | Kimlaroux: but will those conflict with my 64 bit libs? | 20:48 |
| Kimlaroux | I don't know, I try to avoid installing 32 bit stuff | 20:48 |
| em | Kimlaroux: I dont want to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and have it break my ability to install drivers and such later on. | 20:48 |
| Daskreech | em: it won't conflict | 20:50 |
| Daskreech | Some things like Skype are "64bit" but use all 32 Bit libs so it installs them in parallel | 20:50 |
| Kimlaroux | bah it's probably installing media-related libs, so it shouldn't give you system-related problems | 20:50 |
| Daskreech | In any case having both isn't really an issue other than space and memory if they are being used | 20:50 |
| em | is there a way to get most of kubuntu-restricted-extras but not ms-corefonts ? | 20:56 |
| em | why do i need ms-corefonts? | 20:56 |
| maco | so if you open a Word doc in LibreOffice the fonts are the same size and it doesn't reflow the text, breaking formatting | 20:57 |
| maco | but nowadays with teh Liberation fonts you can avoid that anyway | 20:57 |
| em | maco: well that's a very good answer thanks. | 20:58 |
| em | maco: Do you think there is any particular worry about installing Kubuntu restricted extras even though it will install many lib32* on my 64 bit machine? | 21:01 |
| maco | no | 21:02 |
| maco | having 32bit libs in addition to 64bit ones is how you run non-64-native applications, like flash | 21:02 |
| Daskreech | and "64 bit" Skype | 21:03 |
| Daskreech | and .. well anything that's closed and be extension stupid | 21:03 |
| Daskreech | s/be/by/ | 21:03 |
| excognac | hello | 21:06 |
| excognac | Is this serious> OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past.? | 21:07 |
| Daskreech | excognac: Maybe. What version of KDE are you using? | 21:10 |
| excognac | Daskreech: 4.8 | 21:11 |
| Daskreech | Hmm might be a little worrying but let it run and see | 21:13 |
| excognac | no no no | 21:16 |
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| excognac | sorry, i don't understand why but kde4-config -v says 4.7.4 | 21:17 |
| K350 | when I upgraded to 11.10 there was a cool thing that could change workspace in a compiz sort of style way. Now I lost it. Anyone what that might have been? | 21:19 |
| Torch | K350: systemsettings -> desktop effects -> all effects ? | 21:22 |
| K350 | Torch: HHm, yea, but wich one of them?? any idea? | 21:23 |
| Daskreech | excognac: umm wasn't updated? | 21:24 |
| asfyxia | excognac, if you have the standard 11.10, you'll have 4.7.4. For 4.8 you'll have to install it with a PPA | 21:25 |
| excognac | Daskreech: Well, as far as I remember it was!!!! i don't know why. How to update it? | 21:25 |
| Daskreech | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? :) | 21:25 |
| excognac | just did] | 21:26 |
| excognac | not updated | 21:26 |
| excognac | so, I'll go for it now but only through ppa then? | 21:26 |
| Daskreech | well if you go to an application and go help -> about KDE it shoudl tell you what version of KDELibs you are using | 21:27 |
| Daskreech | which shuld be what kde4config reports as well | 21:27 |
| asfyxia | excognac: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 21:27 |
| excognac | asfyxia: thanks | 21:28 |
| asfyxia | from this site: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/kde-48-released-install-it-in-kubuntu.html | 21:29 |
| bfig | hello, i'm having trouble booting the amd64 image. the boot menu looks fine, then the cd starts convulsing with a black screen | 21:29 |
| Torch | K350: depends on what you want. desktop cube, maybe. | 21:29 |
| Torch | K350: "like compiz" doesn't mean anything to me (or any kwin user) | 21:29 |
| Daskreech | bfig: I'm guessing it's a AMD64 machine ? | 21:31 |
| K350 | Torch: looks like they're enabld. But kwin is not my windowmanager now. How do I make it my defautl mannager, it's not in the list in systemsettings. | 21:32 |
| Torch | K350: can't you just check "use the default kde window manager"? | 21:33 |
| bfig | Daskreech, yes. i figured it had something to do with kms | 21:34 |
| bfig | ie, it didn't work with debian either, but i don't know with which parameters i should boot. any suggestion? | 21:34 |
| Daskreech | bfig: if it helps -generic will do 64 bit if your hardware supports it | 21:34 |
| bfig | Daskreech, is there a way to avoid kms? | 21:35 |
| Torch | bfig: nosplash, i think | 21:35 |
| bfig | just add that to the boot line | 21:35 |
| bfig | ?? | 21:35 |
| Torch | bfig: as a kernel parameter, yes. | 21:35 |
| bfig | gonna try, thanks | 21:36 |
| bfig | be back in a second if it didn't work >_> | 21:36 |
| bfig | Torch, didn't work | 21:45 |
| Torch | bfig: what happened? you should have at least seen some messages now. | 21:47 |
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| bfig | nope :| | 21:48 |
| bfig | screen goes black, convulsing just as before | 21:49 |
| Torch | http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting | 21:51 |
| Daskreech | Perhaps noacpi ? | 21:51 |
| Torch | this suggest "nomodeset" might help.... | 21:51 |
| Torch | Daskreech: what would acpi have to do with it at that point in the boot procedure, though? | 21:51 |
| MaxHR | How can I get Plasma Active installed on kubuntu? | 21:53 |
| * Daskreech shrugs. Only thing I could think of that would make the screen go crazy | 21:53 | |
| Daskreech | other than driver issues which shouldn't be that prevalent that early in the boot (I mean you had video before) | 21:53 |
| Torch | Daskreech: i would assume the kernel initializes the video card first of all... and this is what goes wrong for bfig... no? | 21:56 |
| bfig | Torch, i would guess. a friend told me it had to do with kms (since for example, in 2.4 i don't need to touch anything related to this) | 21:57 |
| excognac_ | phew. 4.8 rocks. Special thanks to Daskreech and asfyxia | 21:58 |
| Torch | bfig: well, try the nomodeset parameter then | 21:58 |
| bfig | what about splash? should i erase that? | 21:58 |
| Torch | bfig: the nosplash parameter? no, keep it. it might come in handy to diagnose errors later on. | 21:59 |
| Torch | bfig: you can still remvove it once everything is working smoothly | 21:59 |
| bfig | ok, but what does the 'splash' do (ie, i need to have at least one of them right?) | 22:00 |
| Torch | bfig: splash means you don't see the diagnostic messages during boot. | 22:00 |
| bfig | ohh awesome | 22:00 |
| bfig | so nomodeset nosplash | 22:00 |
| Torch | bfig: but just some graphical animation of some progress bar thingy | 22:00 |
| bfig | no '-' ? | 22:00 |
| Torch | bfig: i'd go with that | 22:00 |
| Torch | bfig: nope | 22:00 |
| bfig | great. gonna try again :). thanks! | 22:01 |
| * bfig takes the dive | 22:01 | |
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| excognac_ | just one consistent problem: I have my home folder on separate partition, and a another distro sharing this home folder on a third partition. Before the splash screen appears there is an error message on the top: couldn't mount the mentioned partitions | 22:02 |
| Daskreech | I probably wouldn't try sharing a home partition like that | 22:05 |
| Daskreech | upgrades on some packages could change configurations in the ~ that would make it impossible to be read by the older packages on the other distro | 22:06 |
| bfig | Torch, nomodeset nosplash works but no graphical mode | 22:23 |
| Torch | bfig: yes, not surpsringly. but that can be fixed. | 22:25 |
| Torch | bfig: what's your graphics card? | 22:25 |
| bfig | one sec | 22:25 |
| bfig | 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9641 | 22:27 |
| bfig | <- Torch | 22:27 |
| Torch | bfig: happen to have this notebook or something similar: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/Series%203%20305V5A%20S01/wheezy | 22:30 |
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| === Guest82499 is now known as thekleine | ||
| * Daskreech kicks chucknorris | 22:41 | |
| chucknorris | lol | 22:41 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 22:41 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 22:41 |
| chucknorris | not wise at all! | 22:41 |
| * chucknorris roundhouse kicks Daskreech | 22:42 | |
| === chucknorris is now known as KC-45 | ||
| * Daskreech lands back here after circumnavigating the planet | 22:46 | |
| bfig | Torch, i am speaking from wheezy with the non free driver installed | 22:47 |
| bfig | Torch, to be honest, i just want to repartition the hard drive and i needed a livecd :D | 22:47 |
| Daskreech | bfig: hmm? | 22:49 |
| bfig | Daskreech, ? | 22:49 |
| Daskreech | You need to burn a live CD? | 22:50 |
| bfig | Daskreech, what do you mean? | 22:50 |
| Daskreech | You said you want to repartition the drive and you need a live CD | 22:51 |
| bfig | yes... i just need to resize the OS partition | 22:51 |
| Kimlaroux | Anyone knows of an alternative to soundKonverter amarok script that works with amarok 2? | 22:52 |
| Daskreech | bfig: And you ahve no live CD? | 22:54 |
| bfig | i have... but up to now i couldn't boot it... now i can boot it but can't access gparted, so i'll have to find a way to resize the partitions from command line | 22:54 |
| bfig | Daskreech, ^ | 22:54 |
| Daskreech | ? | 22:54 |
| Daskreech | ah | 22:54 |
| Daskreech | try partitionmanager ? | 22:55 |
| Daskreech | !Info partitionmanager | 22:55 |
| bfig | !Info partitionmanager | 22:55 |
| bfig | !info partitionmanager | 22:55 |
| ubottu | partitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): A partition management utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 270 kB, installed size 1048 kB | 22:55 |
| bfig | Daskreech, anything in the kubuntu livecD? | 22:57 |
| Daskreech | parted ? | 22:57 |
| bfig | does it come default? | 22:58 |
| FloodBotK1 | !netsplit | 22:58 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 22:58 |
| Daskreech | Better :-) | 22:59 |
| Daskreech | That's what does the resize when you install Kubuntu | 22:59 |
| bfig | so what do you recommend? should i use the installer to resize the partitions or just 'try' with nomodeset nosplash and commando it up? | 23:01 |
| KC-45 | hmm | 23:03 |
| Torch | bfig: if the installer works, why not use it? | 23:03 |
| Torch | bfig: i wasn't even aware it could do that. | 23:03 |
| KC-45 | Daskreech....katapult ninja?..lol | 23:04 |
| * Daskreech silences KC-45 with a rubber band launched Ninja star | 23:05 | |
| Daskreech | bfig: the issue is on the Live CD you have no GUI? | 23:06 |
| Daskreech | Did you start up in safe video mode? | 23:06 |
| jschall | any issues with the backports ppa? | 23:08 |
| jschall | any issues with the backports ppa, on a scale of "nothing ever crashes now, even the program i specifically designed to segfault" to "oh god, there's smoke coming out of my computer?" | 23:10 |
| alith | hello! | 23:15 |
| alith | anyone here? | 23:15 |
| FloodBotK3 | !netsplit | 23:16 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 23:16 |
| alith | I need a little help: I can't manage to get the notification behaving exactly like I want... I found my way in customizing the notification, but didn't find a way to do exactly what I need for kopete. | 23:18 |
| alith | I'd like to have a popup notification whenever a contact change his/her status | 23:18 |
| alith | but I don't want it to be stored in the notification widget from the taskbar | 23:19 |
| alith | (if I go away for say 2 hours, and since I've got 230 contacts in facebook, I will have 300 unuseful notifications... including a lot of: this guy has become available, this same guy is now offline) | 23:20 |
| alith | I don't know if it is a problem that I can resolve with the way the notification are sent, but I don't think so. | 23:21 |
| alith | What I was thinking about is to make a little script deleting the notification (or marking it as read) after a while, and calling it every time this type of notification is send. | 23:22 |
| alith | But I have no idea of how to delete/mark as read a notification | 23:23 |
| alith | or how to retrieve the specific notification | 23:23 |
| alith | Anyone Any idea? | 23:23 |
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