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seawingI an running kubuntu 11.10 on my lenovo laptop. there is a problem : when I am using the keyboard in any program the cursor will frequently loose focus at random times. it does not do this in my windows partition nor does it do it with a live disk of the same distro. Any suggestions to relieve this frustrating bug would be greatly appriciated.01:06
Daskreechseawing: the cursor loses focus?01:12
seawingmeaning I have to click with the mouse to continue typing.01:13
seawinglike that window is no longer in focus.01:14
Daskreechand you aren't touching the touchpad while you are typing01:14
seawingno. and like I said it doesn't do in when using a live disk.01:15
DaskreechI think you can use ksynaptics to turn off the touchpad when you are typing01:15
seawinglet me try that again....01:15
seawingnope. I checked the box that turns off the touchpad while typing and attempted to type a sentence in a browser and got cut off part way through.01:18
seawing it is really anoying when attempting to type in a hidden password field.01:19
DaskreechWell if it works in the same distro with a live Cd it's a setting since it's the same version that is installed01:23
seawingI dont think that it has to do with the touch pad.  I suspect plasma but don't have any reason to back that up.01:24
seawingwhat other settings might effect this behavior?01:25
Daskreechit can't be plasma01:26
DaskreechPlasma doesn't do anythign with focus. It would be kwin but unless you have your keyboard remapped I don't see any reason why kwin would be switching windows while you were typing01:27
Daskreechdoes it happen everytime you are doing a particular password?01:27
seawingno.  it hapens when I am typing an email in gmail, typing a document in libra office, typing a password for synaptic, typing a url in kunquror, etc.01:29
DaskreechDoes it always happen when you type a password in synaptic?01:30
seawingno, sometimes I can make it through the entire phrase before it loses focus.  sometimes I can type a couple sentenses before it happens, sometimes only a couple letters.01:31
Daskreechso it isn't jumping when you do something like press 'e' ?01:32
Daskreechor perhaps pressing two keys at the same time01:32
seawingI'll try that.01:33
DaskreechI'm looking to see if there may be some setting I've overlooked01:36
seawingno. I just tried going through the keyboard and it did it on y so I started over and the next time ie did it on - and the next time I made it all the way to n,01:37
Daskreechwait the installer will run updates as it installs won't it >_<01:37
Daskreechcan you pastebin  ps aux ?01:37
seawingnot sure where that is.01:38
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:38
Daskreechopen a konsole and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ps aux | pastebinit01:39
DaskreechIt will give you a url just paste that URL back here01:39
seawingI am typing from my desktop.  I will open this in the laptop.01:40
seawinganything interesting there?01:48
DaskreechNot seeing anything that strikes me as stealing focus01:49
Daskreech Granted Kwin is very good at not handing over focus01:49
DaskreechDo you ever lose focus without typing on the keyboard?01:49
seawingyou know it even does it whin I click on the k menu and am browsing for something.01:50
DaskreechDo you know where it loses focus to?01:50
seawingbecause the k menu closes when you lose focus it is obvious.01:50
Daskreechand the mouse is over the kmenu at that point?01:51
seawingyes. I can't figure out where it goes. it will do it when there is only one window open.01:51
DaskreechWhich suggests the desktop. Do you have the desktop in your alt+tab listing?01:57
seawingI don't understand.01:57
DaskreechIf you press alt+tab is your desktop one of the options in the list?01:58
seawingif all windows are closed alt tab does nothing01:58
Daskreechah that might be useful if it loses focus you could hold alt+tab to see what grabbed the focus. if it's consistently the desktop then perhaps you have a rogue plasmoid abusing dbus?01:59
Daskreechyou can add it in with alt+F2 -> switcher01:59
seawingok, so I will open several windows and see what happens.01:59
Daskreechor you can add in the desktop :)02:05
seawingI don't follow what you mean about the alt+f2 switcher, but suddenly I cannot recreate the problem.  I dont think I changed anything.02:07
Daskreechseawing: alt=tab switcher02:07
Daskreech alt+f2 is the krunner02:07
ScottyKgreetings! On the netbook version, how do you change/edit an icon?02:10
seawingI am going to restart it and see if the problem comes back.02:10
seawingTHank you for your help by the way.  will come back to it later.02:11
DaskreechScottyK: right click? :-)02:13
DaskreechProbably long click02:13
ScottyK Daskreech - no effect. If I could find something simular to the kickoff launcher, I could get it. But can't find anything like that in the netbook02:16
DaskreechYou just want to edit an icon?02:17
Daskreechactually #plasma might be a good place to ask02:17
ScottyKDaskreech - yes. One of the programs I use in WINE has a "?" for the icon. I'd rather it just have the wine goblet icon02:18
DaskreechCheck in #plasma I think02:19
ScottyKDaskreech - Roger that, thanks!02:20
dabbillis there something i can install so that when i plug in headphones it kills my normal speakers (hp notebook) right now i have to use alsamixer in a terminal to turn down the volume to my speakers02:21
Daskreechpulseaudio should be able to do that02:24
ironfroggydid the 11.10 update default to gnomes login screen, instead of KDM, for anyone else?02:27
James1479ironfroggy: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"02:30
ironfroggythank you02:30
dabbillDeskreech is that whats installed by default with 11.10?02:30
ironfroggyi was really sad to see i'm still getting plasma freezes when i open the kmenu some times, after my 11.10 update :-/02:31
dabbillDaskreech: there is no slider in the kde mixer for speakers indpendent of the headphones output02:33
zorobabelso Amarok launches on start-up, but it's not in System Settings > Autostart; does anyone know how I can remove it?02:43
Daskreechdabbill: Yes02:43
Daskreechironfroggy: Desktop effects on?02:43
Daskreechzorobabel: Session autostart perhaps?02:44
ironfroggyDaskreech: no02:45
DaskreechHmm :-/02:46
Daskreechironfroggy: only kickoff freezes the desktop?02:46
zorobabellet me check that02:48
ironfroggyDaskreech: thats been whast i've seen for a while now. on multiple machines, too.02:51
ironfroggytho both of them were intel gpu thinkpads..02:51
Daskreechironfroggy: tried switching to classic menu or lancelot?02:54
ironfroggyi have not. i dont really notice it much, so i never took the initiative02:54
ironfroggyprobably because i use the menu so incredibly rarely02:55
Daskreechironfroggy: alright03:04
rufsketch1hey all03:10
rufsketch1how can I upgrade to mysql 5.5?03:10
rufsketch1withou losing kde03:10
Daskreech!info mysql03:10
ubottuPackage mysql does not exist in oneiric03:10
Daskreech!info mysql-server03:10
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.1): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 6 kB, installed size 96 kB03:10
rufsketch1Daskreech 5.503:10
rufsketch1Daskreech I already have 5.103:11
rufsketch1Daskreech so how do I install that such that it replaces the current mysql-5.1?03:19
rufsketch1I tried installing 5.5 from a .deb, but it still retained 5.103:19
rufsketch1and i can't remove all of 5.1 first, because kubuntu needs it03:19
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa03:20
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details03:20
DaskreechThat should help03:20
rufsketch1Daskreech right, I know. I'm asking ahead of time if it will replace the old version instead of just installing the new version on top of it03:20
DaskreechWell the person doing that PPA is doing it in preparation of having MySQL 5.5 on Ubuntu so I would think that it's a inplace upgrade03:21
Daskreechbut of course I'm speculating03:21
rufsketch1Daskreech alright, I'll try it.03:22
Daskreech!Info mysql-server precise03:23
rufsketch1Daskreech possibly stupid question, but03:28
rufsketch1 The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC81003:28
rufsketch1I'm not sure what keyserver to specify for gpg03:28
DaskreechIt should be on the same website03:29
rufsketch1ah, found it03:29
Daskreechgreat :)03:30
rufsketch1Daskreech urgh. I still get the no pubkey error though03:31
Daskreechsudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3823246F03:32
rufsketch1Daskreech I already did that03:34
rufsketch1copied and pasted your thing anyway though03:34
rufsketch1same result03:34
DaskreechOh then it really doesn't have a public key03:34
rufsketch1so what do I do?03:34
DaskreechNever mind just suffer through the yes yes I really do want to install this yes I do yes yes  ido03:34
rufsketch1Daskreech what?03:35
DaskreechYou should be able ot install anyway but it will complain endlessly about it not being signed03:35
DaskreechAt least as near as I remember03:35
rufsketch1Daskreech but doesn't it need to update my repos before I can even tell it what I want to install?03:36
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Daskreechrufsketch1: sudo apt-get update is failing?03:37
rufsketch1Daskreech yes, that's the one returning the pgp error03:39
DaskreechThere is a script in there. Extract it and check if it's executable03:40
rufsketch1Daskreech the script returns03:42
rufsketch1cat: keyss: No such file or directory03:42
rufsketch1rm: cannot remove `keyss': No such file or directory03:42
Daskreechrufsketch1: run it with sudo03:42
rufsketch1I did03:43
Daskreechoh? give me a moment03:43
rufsketch1Daskreech sure.03:46
Daskreechrufsketch1: try putting set -e as the line above if [.. "root" ];03:53
DaskreechRun it again and tell me if you end up with a file named fullsourceslist ?03:53
rufsketch1Daskreech I do end up with fullsourcelist03:55
Daskreechcan you pastebin that please?03:56
rufsketch1Daskreech ^03:57
rufsketch1no, thank you.03:57
ubottuUbuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/101003:57
rufsketch1Daskreech what do I do with that?03:58
Daskreechrufsketch1: :-/03:59
Daskreechcan you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:59
rufsketch1Daskreech http://pastebin.com/9C08N9jN04:00
DaskreechThe PPA isn't in there is it?04:01
rufsketch1Daskreech in the sources.list?04:07
DaskreechI don't see the PPA at all04:07
rufsketch1Daskreech neither do I04:07
rufsketch1is that where ppa's generally get stored?04:07
Daskreechor in sources.list.d04:09
rufsketch1Daskreech sources.list.d has the ppa04:11
Daskreechrufsketch1: Woohoo :) pastebin that04:12
rufsketch1Daskreech sources.list.d is a director04:12
rufsketch1Daskreech the two relevant files contained therein are04:13
rufsketch1do you want me to paste their contents?04:13
Daskreechrufsketch1: pastebin the .list04:13
rufsketch1Daskreech it contains04:13
rufsketch1deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main04:13
rufsketch1deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main04:13
DaskreechOh hmm04:14
DaskreechDo those exist?04:14
rufsketch1Daskreech so?04:20
DaskreechWhy are you on Maverick?04:20
rufsketch1Daskreech because it's my girlfriend's computer, and using a different system would lose a lot of programs she has set up04:21
Daskreech like?04:23
rufsketch1things we've had to compile from source04:24
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rufsketch1an upgrade is out of the question right now either way.04:24
rufsketch1I need to get this set up sooner than later04:24
DaskreechPull the lucid packages I would guess04:25
Daskreechchange the word maverick in that PPA to say lucid04:28
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rufsketch1Daskreech alright04:30
Daskreechtry the keyserver again and run sudo apt-get update04:31
rufsketch1update seems to complete04:32
Daskreechalright try your server no04:33
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benbloomis there a way to preprocess webcam video before it goes out via skype?04:33
DaskreechCall Skype support?04:34
rufsketch1Daskreech well, I still have to go and install it04:34
rufsketch1Daskreech it doesn't seem to be showing up on apt-cache search04:34
benbloomin windows it's a different app altogether bundled with the webcam. allows you to zoom, and tweak picture04:35
Daskreechrufsketch1: apt-cache policy mysql-server04:35
rufsketch1Daskreech latest available is suppodly 5.1.4904:36
benbloomis tehre a way to route my webcam through vlc, in such a way that skype will recognize vlc's output as a webcam?04:37
rufsketch1 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1 004:37
rufsketch1        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages04:37
rufsketch1        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe i386 Packages04:37
rufsketch1     5.1.49-1ubuntu8 004:37
rufsketch1        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages04:37
rufsketch1benbloom yes, but I don't know of any out of the box solutions04:37
benbloommeaning what rufsketch1?04:38
rufsketch1meaning you might have to hack about a bit.04:39
rufsketch1benbloom I know skype has a screen capture option04:39
rufsketch1you could probably screen cap what vlc is showing04:39
rufsketch1that would be the easiest way04:39
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benbloombut that wouldn't work for streaming would it? I'm hoping to capture my webcam with vlc, process it an dthen use the output from vlc as streaming video04:40
benbloomisn't screen capture for stills only?04:41
rufsketch1benbloom no04:42
rufsketch1screen capture transmits video of what's happening on your screen04:42
benbloomhaven't used that feature rufsketch1. interesting idea04:43
rufsketch1Oh yes, I have many of them.04:43
seawingI am still working on the loosing focus issue in 11.10 on my laptop. are there any other suggestions on what settings might be causing the problem?05:30
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stephanHave to say that I'm really looking forward to Precise.05:41
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ashesapt-get and apper seem to be out of sync... i can do an 'apt-get update', and then install a new package, and then apper _always_ complains after about security updates. am i doing things wrong?06:16
ashesi could have eliminated some variables, like do an apper update first, but i don't think that will have an influence06:17
ashesi assume apper and apt-get both use the same database, yes?06:17
ashesis there something else i should use, than apt-get, to install new packages with? i prefer command-line06:19
hateballwell apper only checks so often, but if you do a manual check with it after you've installed using apt-get it should report correct06:26
ashesdoes 'apt-get install' perform any update to my local database?06:27
ashesoriginally i would do an 'apt-get install', and a minute later i would have a ton of updates from apper. thinking that i was installing old packages, i started doing 'apt-get update' before 'apt-get install', but this problem with apper hasn't gone away06:29
ashesit's more than a coincidence that apper reports that i need updates every time i use 'apt-get install'06:30
ashesit's always unrelated packages06:30
ashesi just installed lm-sensors, and apper wants to update xorg related packages06:31
ashesi might simply be doing things wrong06:31
ashesis what i'm doing an acceptable/efficient way to install new packages and maintain my system?06:32
ashesi have a good understanding of linux, but not kubuntu specifically. i just learned apper is a kde app a few minutes ago06:34
ashesi'm new to ubuntu aswell06:34
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dahliaanyone know offhand how to get it so alt-left click gets passed to the application instead of moving the window? blender uses alt-clicks and I cant get it to recognize them06:50
dahliaI looked in system settings but nothing I tried there worked06:50
almoxarifedahlia: i just tried alt left click, got nothing, you added it as a short cut?06:52
dahliano I just have default kubuntu06:52
dahliabut alt-left moves the whole application window06:52
almoxarifedahlia:  you right, i didnt do it correctly the first time06:53
dahliaIll ask in #kde also06:55
zorobabelhey guys, whenever I try to remove unity and its associated packages either via apt-get or Muon, it insists on installing gnome and associated packages-- how can I, uh, make it not do this?07:44
Tm_Tzorobabel: what happens if you ask it (via apt-get) to remove both unity and the gnome stuff it tries to install?07:51
zorobabelI could try but it is somewhat annoying since the gnome stuff is about 30 packages07:52
zorobabel1here we go07:56
almoxarifezorobabel: there is a easy way to wipe gnome from your system, assuming that you want to go pure kubuntu?08:06
zorobabelyes, I do08:08
xcoratHi, how can I apply this patch?08:09
Tm_Txcorat: that's patch for nouveau graphics drivers?08:10
zorobabellooks good08:10
almoxarifezorobabel: assuming kubuntu is already installed you would leave the last install portion out08:10
Tm_Txcorat: you need to get nouveau sources, apply the patch to the sources, and then build the drivers08:11
almoxarifezorobabel: one thing, if you need any apps from gnome after the fact they will need to be re-installed, most likely08:11
Tm_Txcorat: ...you have previous experience on compiling applications from sources?08:11
xcoratTm_T:you mean like ./config->make stuff? or somthin diff?08:12
Tm_Tthat, yes08:12
xcoratTm_T:whats the deal with diff file? how can I apply the patch, idk much08:12
Tm_Txcorat: maybe this explains? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch-file-using-patch-command/08:14
xcorat@Tm_T: so you just get download the files and the patch, and run patch < the input file path?08:18
Tm_Txcorat: yeah, but compiling nouveau drivers isn't that simple job I'm afraid08:19
xcorathm.. :)08:19
xcorati figured08:19
xcorati might try.08:19
Tm_Txcorat: if you're up for the challenge, go for it, only way to learn is to do (:08:19
xcoratthats true.. but im wondering if its worth it. It seems there's no support yet for lenovo y470.08:20
xcoratthanks a lot08:20
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viKtor_hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons10:51
viKtor_hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons10:53
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Back5nux71you ou12:29
FlashDeluxehi! does anybody know a good tool for generating and encoding barcodes?12:48
James147FlashDeluxe: never used it, but kbarcode might work12:51
James147o wait, thats old :S12:51
FlashDeluxeyes^^ i would like to have one thats still supported :)12:52
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James147FlashDeluxe: cant really find any decent user end tools that are still updated, but there are a few libraries out there13:03
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robertzaccourIf I use Banshee will the Gnome libs use a lot of my RAM?13:23
James147robertzaccour: depends on what you define as allot ^^ Though they should use that much13:26
robertzaccouroh ok thanks13:27
robertzaccourI figured out how to make playlists in Amarok nevermind I'm good :) thanks anyways13:28
robertzaccourand wasn't sure about chromium web browser, but I wasn't about to stick with rekonq haha13:29
zlozlzhello, is there a tool that allows to send screenshots directly to imgur?13:37
jussizlozlz: yes, use the pastebin plasmoid, take a screenshot and drag and drop it there13:49
zlozlzjussi: cool thanks13:52
BluesKajhi all14:20
Grotzhello there14:23
Grotzcan anyone help me with some noobie questions? maybe in german? cus my english is realy bad =P14:25
bazhangGrotz, #ubuntu-de for German14:26
LynoureGrotz: there might even be #kubuntu-de14:26
bazhangGrotz, you can certainly ask in english here though14:26
Grotzah, ok. thank u guys14:26
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!14:26
dnovikov@seek opera14:28
bazhangdnovikov, need some help?14:28
dnovikovtrying to remember how IRC works14:29
dnovikovTHere is any FAQ?14:29
bazhangdnovikov, for your irc client? for freenode generally?14:30
babaluhow can i get a good security for my computer? is there to know whether or not my computer is keylogged?14:31
dnovikovprobably for the client. I'll google it14:31
babalua way14:31
bazhang!crosspost | babalu14:31
ubottubabalu: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.14:31
babalubazhang: sorry14:32
bazhangdnovikov, #quassel is here on freenode14:32
Grotzhmmm, maybe all afk in kubuntu-de. =D i will try my luck on english. and i'm sorry, im realy noob with computersystems. my first question is, how to install software on kubuntu 11.10? i found some informations about software-center and synaptic but i think this isnt the right one for kubuntu oO14:32
bazhangGrotz, from the package manager? from the command  line (ie konsole)?14:33
bazhang!info muon14:33
ubottumuon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB14:33
Grotzi think i'm looking for an manager14:33
Grotz!info muon14:34
ubottumuon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB14:34
Grotzargh xD14:34
Grotzok, this thing is crashing all times14:34
bazhangGrotz, muon is?14:34
Grotzsegmentation fault (11)14:34
jovintry dpkg --configure -a14:35
BluesKajGrotz,  don't use muon , it's broken14:37
kbroulikBluesKaj: lol14:37
Grotzjovin where?^^14:37
jovinin terminal14:37
bazhangBluesKaj, what would be a good alternative14:37
Grotzah ok14:37
BluesKajlol? it's not funny , it's a fact :)14:37
jovinfixed it for me14:37
BluesKajsynaptic adept or even apt-get in the terminal14:37
jovinmuon works fine14:38
kbroulikBluesKaj: the UI, definitly. but at least the auto updater works in contrast to apper/kpackagekit^^14:38
BluesKajdespends on your updates and upgrades14:38
Grotzjovin, its told me that i need super user rights14:38
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:38
jovintype sudo14:38
jovinsudo dpkg --configure -a14:39
Grotzok, asked for pw. typed it in... thats all... new bashline. nothing more14:39
BluesKajI use synaptic as an installer for meta stuff , butr mostly as a reference for info about available packages., all my upsates/upgrades are with apt-get14:40
BluesKajjovin,  that's good , no errors14:40
BluesKajphat phingers14:40
jovinGrotz do this:14:41
Grotzok, how to find/install new software now?^^ im realy noobie windows user. i only know how to dbl click an exe =P14:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 915235 in muon (Ubuntu) "muon-installer crash" [High,Confirmed]14:41
belfistHi guyz14:43
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:43
belfistI've got a silyl problem14:43
belfistI added a facebook widget and i cant remove it14:44
belfistI accidently addet it to a panel, not on the desktop14:45
belfistHow can I remove it?14:45
BluesKajright click on it remove this widget14:45
belfistwhen i do that, there is only one option - reload14:46
belfistooohhh i got it14:46
belfistit messed up my panel14:46
belfisti just had to right-click a few pixels away to do that14:47
belfistOh, and by the way, I found the way to install World Of Warcraft on kubuntu (installation on download) and i made it work perfectly!  Someone wants to know how? :D14:48
Grotzuncomment means del "# " ?14:48
belfist@Grotz - Yes14:49
Torchbelfist: double clicked the installer? ;-)14:49
BluesKajbelfist,  Vbox ?14:49
bazhangGrotz, correct14:49
belfistNo, installing wow is not that simple ;D14:49
belfistI used wine, and wine tricks.14:49
Torchbelfist: weird. it has been for me.14:49
belfistYOu didn't have problems with p2p downloading?14:50
belfistLauncher.exe was working fine?14:50
Torchbelfist: yeah, i turned off p2p some time after 4.2 or so.14:50
Torchbelfist: that problem hasn't always existed.14:50
Grotzargh, need some write rights =/14:50
Torchbelfist: see the wine app db page about it.14:50
belfistI had to install directx dlls as well -14:51
Torchbelfist: i don't remember doing that. also, make it use opengl.14:51
belfistThat's the point!14:51
Grotzhow to get the rights to edit sources.list?^^14:52
belfistwhen I used  "wine wow,exe -opengl" It crashed after few minutes - with segmentation fault.14:52
belfist@grotz use sude gedit <filepath>14:52
belfisti mean14:52
belfistsudo gedit <filepath>14:52
bazhangkdesu kate for kubuntu14:53
belfistAnd when I just used wine without opengl, It worked perefctly! On fullhd with all effects.14:53
Torchno kdesu in kubuntu ;-)14:53
Torchkdesudo it is.14:53
bazhangthanks there Torch14:53
belfistaah, youre right. I forgot sometimes, that i use kde ;D14:54
belfistI was using gnome, but installed kde. SOme programs are pissing me off.14:54
belfistFor instance - when I finish downloading something by firefox, and want to open pathfile, nautilius opens ;/14:55
Grotzbelfist, command gedit not found14:56
Grotzargh my fault14:56
Grotzok not ^^14:57
Grotzcant find the command14:57
BluesKajkdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , Grotz14:57
Grotzah ok14:58
BluesKajGuys don't give parial commands like kdesudo , give athe whole caommand and address the person you're directing the help by his nick please , thanks14:59
belfistCya later guys!14:59
* belfist going away14:59
Grotzmuon ist starting now. thank you all for your help15:08
ironfroggyafter my update to 11.10 i no longer get notifications from gtk applications properly, they come up as plain X dialogs instead, and i can't find a way to even turn them off. what might have broken in the update that i could look into?15:11
BluesKajironfroggy,  reset your package manager repository , and be sure to enable canonical partners15:13
BluesKajthen update and upgrade , ironfroggy15:13
txomonhi, which is the minimal package to install all the kubuntu desktop without installing kdm?15:14
ironfroggyBluesKaj: thanks, but i'm not sure where to do that exactly. i thought you were referring to some things the update might have disabled in sources.list but i dont see anything mentioning canonical15:16
ironfroggythat is, nothing that isnt already enabled.15:16
BluesKajironfroggy,  which kubuntu version ?15:17
ironfroggyBluesKaj: 11.10, just upgraded from 11.0415:18
BluesKajbest to open your package manager to do the changes, ironfroggy , the manager will add the deb to sources.list15:20
BluesKajironfroggy,  I recommend synaptic , it's the easiest to use for editing IMO15:21
ironfroggyBluesKaj: i dont use any package manager, i have always used apt-get directly15:21
ironfroggyBluesKaj: i'm still not sure what i'm actually trying to accomplish, via a package manager or directly.15:22
ironfroggyall my packages are up to date, i've got the canonical repositories included.15:22
BluesKajironfroggy,  well lately when upgrading , the sources.list is no longer updated with the canonical partners and 3rd part software sources , as previously...the devs want ppl to use the package manager since trying to appeal to GUI type users15:23
BluesKajok ironfroggy run sudo dpkg --configure -a , no output means no errors15:24
ironfroggyno errors then15:24
BluesKajok , ironfroggy , try an update15:25
ironfroggyhave already done so, and just did it again15:25
BluesKajironfroggy,  pastebin your upgrade errors15:26
txomonSo anyone knows here about kubuntu-desktop without the kdm?15:27
ironfroggyBluesKaj: i dont have any upgrade errors15:27
ironfroggythere is nothing to upgrade, i just did a dist-upgrade so everything is up to date.15:27
Torchtxomon: probably need to try something like kdelibs and the base and workspace packages for kde15:27
BluesKajironfroggy,  err I mean update of course15:28
Torchtxomon: also, you could install kdm and just carry on using a different login manager, but i'm sure you're aware of that15:28
ironfroggyBluesKaj: also no errors15:29
txomonTorch: I thought about installing kubuntu-desktop, but that is now what I was looking for15:29
BluesKajironfroggy,  if you don't have any gtk apps that need updating/upgrading then the notifier won't notify15:29
txomonTorch: also thought about kde-plasma-desktop15:30
ironfroggyBluesKaj: do you mean the triggers that setup notifications from gtk apps to the KDE notifications happen on install or update of those gtk app packages?15:30
Torchtxomon: i'm afraid i can't tell you off the top of my head how these packages are laid out and you can just look that up yourself as well, don't need me to do it ;-)15:31
BluesKajironfroggy,  yes if you have the package manager notfier turned on15:31
Torchtxomon: my advice would be install kubuntu-desktop and set whatever login manager suits you. or try kdm, it's actually very good.15:32
txomonTorch: I already tried kubuntu-desktop package, but having installed kdm, is much more weighty than lightdm15:32
ironfroggyBluesKaj: how can i make sure i have that enabled?15:34
BluesKajtxomon, a login manager isn't a big deal , just use one or the other15:34
BluesKajironfroggy,  check muon or apper whichever  default package mangers you have installed15:34
Torchtxomon: iirc kdm is a few hundred _kilobytes_ big, is it not?15:35
eeanmis there a kubuntu repo somewhere with PublicTransport packaged?15:35
txomonTorch: yes, but interacts with my system some way, I have had quite real problems with it. Each time I boot the computer, it starts with one of them15:36
Torchtxomon: like, for instance?15:37
txomonTorch: lightdm lxdm kdm15:37
txomongoes around those three15:37
Torchtxomon: no, i was referring to the problems you had with kdm... which were those?15:37
txomonTorch: I don't like it ;)15:38
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit15:38
txomonthe idea is that the *dm interact between them15:38
Torchtxomon: they do?15:39
BluesKajtxomon,  if you're going to run kubuntu desktop , run kdm ...it's only there for the time you login15:39
ironfroggyBluesKaj: i'm slightly confused now, actually, but also very sorry to keep being dense about this. what does this problem have to do with the package managers, exactly?15:40
txomonBluesKaj: but I want _just_ to use lightdm15:40
txomonbut ok15:40
txomonI will install kubuntu-desktop15:41
txomonhope the problem was with lxdm15:41
BluesKajtxomon,  well if lightdm doesn't work then you have to make a choice15:41
txomonBluesKaj: it does work perfectly15:41
txomonkubuntu crashes15:41
Torchtxomon: i would appreciate if you just could tell us what the _problem_ really is you're trying to solve.15:42
Torchtxomon: is it weight? bugs? or just weird preferences?15:42
txomonTorch: let the user choose between gnome and kde15:42
BluesKajironfroggy,  the package manager now also edits the sources.list , but doesn't update the repos listed there when you upgrade for some reason it's being neglected.15:42
txomonwithout installing superfluous packages15:43
Torchtxomon: don't use kubuntu if that is top of your list.15:43
txomonit is like installing lubuntu-core15:43
txomonthere is not a kubuntu-core15:44
txomonjust kubuntu-desktop15:44
BluesKajironfroggy,  however when you update the repos in the package manager , it's actually the app that apt and dpkg look at for the sources15:44
ironfroggyalso, wth15:44
ironfroggysuddenly i'm getting notifications from pidgin15:45
ironfroggyi dont know what i did that made a difference.15:45
ironfroggybut its not KDE notifications still... halfway there maybe15:45
BluesKajironfroggy,  after that dpkg looks at the sources.list for any ppas etc that you may have added  manually15:46
txomonso, my question, is : "Is there any minimal package containing the desktop, and not kdm etc" ?15:47
Tm_Ttxomon: just the desktop, no apps, tools etc?15:49
Tm_Tthere's package "plasma-desktop" that provides you that desktop and the panels and (basic) widgets15:50
txomontm_T, no kdm, just no kdm15:51
Tm_Ttxomon: then no15:53
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit16:08
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:10
sky100im new in kubuntu17:15
sky100how to refresh in kubuntu17:17
Daskreechsky100: refresh what?17:17
Daskreech Welcome to Kubuntu :)17:18
sky100refresh the page itself17:21
sky100 im on xchat , suddenly it hanged17:21
sky100so i had to close the programme itself17:21
sky100& start it all over17:22
EvilResistancesky100, refresh the "page" itself?17:22
EvilResistancethat'd imply you're on a web site17:22
EvilResistanceif you mean restart a program, you just did it right17:22
DaskreechEvilResistance: no it doesn't17:22
EvilResistanceDaskreech, given they stated "xchat" the term "page" does not apply17:23
DaskreechApplications can have pages without being in the interwebs :)17:23
DaskreechChannel might be a better term :)17:23
sky100like in WINDOWS  we used to press F or right click the mouse to get refresh option17:23
EvilResistancenot in xchat.17:23
sky100F5 *17:23
EvilResistancesky100, i'm a tiny bit confuzled with what you're having the problem in.  In what program is this error occurring?17:24
DaskreechXchat :)17:24
EvilResistancethere is no refresh option in xchat17:24
EvilResistancenever has been17:24
sky100no not in xchat17:24
EvilResistancesky100, firefox?17:24
Daskreechsky100: Though if Xchat is hung (i.e. doesn't respond to anything) then trying ot refresh it won't make a difference. Since it's not responding17:24
sky100im speaking on the KUBUNTU os17:24
Daskreechsky100: depends on the application in question. Konversation doesn't have a refresh pers e17:25
Daskreechthough if you flip to a different channel and flip back then it will redraw the view17:25
sky100Daskreech, : i was just searching for a refresh option in KUBUNTU17:26
Daskreechsky100: Ah for the whole screen?17:26
Daskreechalt+shift+F12 would work17:26
DaskreechTecnically that turns desktop effects on and off17:26
sky100ok ty Daskreech17:26
Daskreechbut it also redraws the whole screen17:26
sky100i see17:27
sky100as the Xchat suddenly hanged , so i wanted to close the programme but it was not even getting closed..17:27
sky100so I had restart the computer17:28
sky100i had to *17:28
EvilResistancehmm... i wonder if that's anything similar to what happens on my systems when sectors start dying en masse...17:29
EvilResistancesince i have random hangs when my hard drive isheaded to its death...17:29
Daskreechsky100: could you open a new program?17:29
sky100Daskreech, : yeah i can17:29
sky100as I started the pc17:30
Daskreechsky100: if you click the X button and wait 30 or so seconds then the program will give you the option to close it17:30
DaskreechIf that still doesn't work you can press alt+ctrl+Esc to get the Kill Cursor17:30
DaskreechClick on anything and it will kill it17:30
sithlord48hello #kubuntu!17:31
DaskreechEvilResistance: Possibly. if it's the same sector dying then the same program will always hang. If it's your RAM dying well then you get disco balls of lights and fury17:31
DaskreechHi sithlord4817:31
sithlord48whats going on today out there in kubuntu land?17:32
sky100Daskreech,  i tried that Kill cursor17:32
EvilResistanceDaskreech, and if your hardware is burning itself, you have the potential to have a mysterious ball of blue smoke coming out of the computer :P17:32
sithlord48its called xkill (so you know in the future)17:32
sky100& by mistake i applied on desktop..17:32
sky100now i cant see any icon on desktop17:32
sky100how to get it back17:33
sithlord48sky100: you want to press alt+f2 (for run box) then run "plasma-desktop"17:33
Daskreechsky100: press alt+F2 and type plasma-desktop17:33
DaskreechPress esc to cancel the Kill Cursor17:33
Daskreechdon't click on the desktop :)17:33
sky100got back17:34
Daskreechsithlord48: KDE 4.8!17:34
sithlord4812.04 alpha over here17:34
DaskreechEvilResistance: I had blue electricity shoot out the back of the powersupply. No Smoke yet17:34
sithlord48on my netbook , running so very nice (11.10 on desktop w/ kde 4.8 too)17:34
Daskreechsithlord48: Well then install KDE 4.9 :-p17:34
EvilResistanceDaskreech, i was working on a client's computer, and was going to power-test the power supply so I had it open (I am trained to work on them), and one of the big capacitors explodified right in my face17:35
sithlord48thats bad.17:35
DaskreechHa! take that degree!! I laugh in the face of paper!17:35
DaskreechHopefully you were not close to it when it did that17:36
Daskreechclay type capacitors can be really sharp17:36
sky100 ty so much Daskreech17:36
EvilResistancei was... close... but not injured17:36
EvilResistancewell that's not true... i had an injury to my hand17:37
EvilResistancea decent sized burn17:37
sithlord48i got one of those once from getting battery goop on my hand , not fun ..17:37
EvilResistanceyours was an acid burn.  mine was an explosion burn17:39
sithlord48oh was thinking you got chem burn from cap goop17:39
EvilResistancenope, the thing literally exploded17:39
EvilResistancewhile hooked up to 120v power17:39
EvilResistancethat explains the explosion, but i should have been able to just tell...17:39
EvilResistanceby looking at the caps on the capacitors...17:40
EvilResistancethey were puffy xD17:40
sithlord48yes we replace lots of parts @ my job cause of failed caps. but no one ever wants to listen to me when i say its a cap solder a new one on and save the <insane board price>17:40
Daskreechsky100: Sure :) anything else you would like to know?17:41
sky100will try to know a lot , Daskreech , but as for now its all ok17:42
sky100ty for your co-operation17:42
sky100im all new to whole LINUX stuff17:42
sithlord48its ok we were all new at some point17:43
sky100so will be having issues on a regular basis ....17:43
sky100oh , yea sithlord4817:43
sithlord48don't treat it like a windows machine , and learn anew :D17:43
sky100ty for kind words17:43
Daskreechsky100: welcome to Linux and KDE as well :)17:44
sky100yeah.. thats what is the first thing to learn...17:44
EvilResistancesithlord48, you do have to be careful with some of those things... soldering a new cap onto an already-failed capacitor can be bad sometimes17:44
EvilResistancenamely due to the capacitor needing replacing17:44
sky100 TY Daskreech17:44
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sithlord48oh yes i ment whole capacitor17:45
Daskreechsky100: Are you used to XChat?17:47
sithlord48im no electronics expert when it comes to soldering or making circets but i have the basics down , more a computer science type17:47
EvilResistancesithlord48, yeah, but with power supplies you sometimes have to replace the whole board17:47
EvilResistanceor the entire PSU17:47
sky100yep Daskreech17:47
sky100im using xchat17:47
Daskreechsky100: Ah figured :)17:47
EvilResistancemainly because exploding capacitors usually short themselves out after the explosion17:47
sithlord48mine are usually on motor pwb and stuff like that. i fix office equpment like copiers, printers, etc..17:47
sithlord48sky100:  how long u been using kubuntu for ? and this is your first linux distro?17:49
Daskreechsky100: as a friendly tip use alt+F2 it will make your life much happier17:49
sithlord48yes krunner (what alt+f2 opens) is very usefull17:49
sithlord48i found out that i can control amarok from it the other day by typing in a song i want to hear . from my collection, it doesn't even have to be in the playlist.17:50
sky100ON PHONE17:50
sithlord48does anyone here use SPDIF (optical) for sound output?17:51
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sithlord48j/w what possible issues im gonna have when i try to use my new headphones w/ my computer.17:51
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sky100sithlord48, : im using kubuntu for last one month or so...17:58
sky100& this is my 1st distro17:58
sky100though i tried with PCLINUXOS17:59
sky100but could not configure my wireless broadband on it17:59
sky100so had to desert it ..17:59
DaskreechSo second but first one you could stick with17:59
DaskreechOne month is a good time. Gets you used to a lot of things18:00
sky100gradually im getting used to...18:02
sky100Daskreech, im enjoying it...18:02
sky100so will be hopping in here frequently, Daskreech18:04
DaskreechGreat :) if you see me on you can just ping me18:04
sky100SURE Daskreech18:05
sky100ok Daskreech , ty again ..18:58
sky100cya soon18:58
DaskreechBye :)18:58
sky100will be interested to know to work on a VM18:59
sky100can ya helo me on that on my next visit ?18:59
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Daskreechsky100: sure. install virtualbox19:01
Daskreech!info virtualbox19:01
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 15440 kB, installed size 44948 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 all)19:01
sky100ok im all noober abt VM19:02
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sky100so pls help me out on this on tomorrow..19:02
Daskreechsky100: try it out. It's pretty simple to follow once you know what a VM is19:02
DaskreechBut of course if you need s-more help that's what we are all here for19:03
sky100its an OS in OS19:03
DaskreechIt's an OS in a computer in an OS :)19:03
DaskreechThe M part of VM is important19:03
sky100iit cnsumes a lot of mem19:04
sky100im running with 1.25GB of RAM19:04
DaskreechWell that's part of having a machine in a machine. You need enough resources for it19:07
DaskreechYou can try qemu but that's much more difficult to understand19:07
sohussainhey! need a recommendations on creating a backup of my locally installed OS19:08
sohussainneed rec..*19:08
sky100like i said i have 1.25GB of RAM19:08
Daskreechwell make a VM with 300 Megs of RAM then. Not sure what you can do to playwith that but you can do a headless LInux for example19:09
Daskreechsohussain: What are you backing up?19:09
sohussainbasically i would like to create a backup of my local Os i.e. Kubuntu 11.10, i have seperated my "Home" to another partition, so the backup should be small enough19:11
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning19:12
sky100ok Daskreech19:12
sky100tc , cya19:12
DaskreechGood nigh19:12
sohussaincould you recommend one which would be appropriate to create a one time backup, which could be restored if ever my OS blows up?19:14
sohussaini.e. backup to maybe a new parition or external USB drive19:15
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate19:15
Daskreechmight be easier and then just backup your /etc19:16
Daskreechbut bacula is pretty good19:16
Daskreech!info bacula19:16
ubottubacula (source: bacula): network backup, recovery and verification - meta-package. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.3-1ubuntu5 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB19:16
sohussainThank you, would that also back up my drivers and system setting?19:17
BluesKajbacula has a lot of options according to it's description in synaptic19:18
sohussainThnak you, i'll di right in :)19:20
excognachi all19:30
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heinkel_111hey, just a question: in kubuntu, what is the recommended file location for files to be shared between many users?20:34
heinkel_111i am configuring a media server daemon20:34
heinkel_111need to share media files such as music, video, pictures on the local network20:34
heinkel_111the media server runs on its own user name (as a daemon usually does afaik(20:35
Daskreechin /usr ?20:37
DaskreechUnless you are updating it often then /var20:38
heinkel_111Daskreech: would you stuff the music files into a /usr/media/music, for example?20:39
heinkel_111or /usr/share/media/music?20:39
emWhat is the difference between kubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-addons ?20:39
DaskreechI'd do it under share20:39
Daskreech!info kubuntu-restricted-addons20:40
ubottukubuntu-restricted-addons (source: ubuntu-restricted-addons): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB20:40
Daskreechem: I think they are the same20:40
Kimlarouxif the media server runs on it's own username, why not place the stuff into it's home directory?20:40
em!info kubuntu-restricted-extras20:41
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 56 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB20:41
emthey seem different.20:41
emone is version 8 and one is version 5620:41
Kimlarouxem, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/kubuntu-restricted-addons20:42
Kimlaroux"You should not install this package directly, but instead install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package."20:42
heinkel_111Daskreech: alternative options, keep the files in home directory of each individual user and make them accessible to a group which can be read by the mediaserver daemon. Is that more tidy?20:42
emKimlaroux: oh wow. I wonder why20:43
Kimlarouxbah, this is Ubuntu, it's often better not to ask about those things20:43
Daskreechem: I think they just changed the name of the package and kept the old one around in case anyone is doing updates20:44
Daskreechheinkel_111: If it's an aggregate solution I suppose you could do that20:44
Daskreechem: so compatibilty for people upgrading from old LTS releases20:45
emWhy is kubuntu-restricted-extras installing all this lib32 stuff when my machine is a 64 bit machine?20:45
Kimlarouxare you running 64 bits ubuntu?20:46
emKimlaroux: I sure hope so. How can I be sure?20:47
emLinux leibniz 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:47
Kimlarouxuname -a20:47
emthat's what Ive got there ^20:47
Kimlarouxmeh, then it's installing the 32 bits libs because there arent's 64 bits libs available20:48
emKimlaroux: but will those conflict with my 64 bit libs?20:48
KimlarouxI don't know, I try to avoid installing 32 bit stuff20:48
emKimlaroux: I dont want to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and have it break my ability to install drivers and such later on.20:48
Daskreechem: it won't conflict20:50
DaskreechSome things like Skype are "64bit" but use all 32 Bit libs so it installs them in parallel20:50
Kimlarouxbah it's probably installing media-related libs, so it shouldn't give you system-related problems20:50
DaskreechIn any case having both isn't really an issue other than space and memory if they are being used20:50
emis there a way to get most of kubuntu-restricted-extras but not ms-corefonts ?20:56
emwhy do i need ms-corefonts?20:56
macoso if you open a Word doc in LibreOffice the fonts are the same size and it doesn't reflow the text, breaking formatting20:57
macobut nowadays with teh Liberation fonts you can avoid that anyway20:57
emmaco: well that's a very good answer thanks.20:58
emmaco: Do you think there is any particular worry about installing Kubuntu restricted extras even though it will install many lib32* on my 64 bit machine?21:01
macohaving 32bit libs in addition to 64bit ones is how you run non-64-native applications, like flash21:02
Daskreechand "64 bit" Skype21:03
Daskreechand .. well anything that's closed and be extension stupid21:03
excognacIs this serious> OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past.?21:07
Daskreechexcognac: Maybe. What version of KDE are you using?21:10
excognacDaskreech: 4.821:11
DaskreechHmm might be a little worrying but let it run and see21:13
excognacno no no21:16
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excognacsorry, i don't understand why but kde4-config -v says 4.7.421:17
K350when I upgraded to 11.10 there was a cool thing that could change workspace  in a compiz sort of style way.  Now I lost it. Anyone what that might have been?21:19
TorchK350: systemsettings -> desktop effects -> all effects ?21:22
K350Torch: HHm, yea, but wich one of them?? any idea?21:23
Daskreechexcognac: umm wasn't updated?21:24
asfyxiaexcognac, if you have the standard 11.10, you'll have 4.7.4. For 4.8 you'll have to install it with a PPA21:25
excognacDaskreech: Well, as far as I remember it was!!!! i don't know why. How to update it?21:25
Daskreechsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? :)21:25
excognacjust did]21:26
excognacnot updated21:26
excognacso, I'll go for it now but only through ppa then?21:26
Daskreechwell if you go to an application and go help -> about KDE it shoudl tell you what version of KDELibs you are using21:27
Daskreechwhich shuld be what kde4config reports as well21:27
asfyxiaexcognac: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:27
excognacasfyxia: thanks21:28
asfyxiafrom this site: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/kde-48-released-install-it-in-kubuntu.html21:29
bfighello, i'm having trouble booting the amd64 image. the boot menu looks fine, then the cd starts convulsing with a black screen21:29
TorchK350: depends on what you want. desktop cube, maybe.21:29
TorchK350: "like compiz" doesn't mean anything to me (or any kwin user)21:29
Daskreechbfig: I'm guessing it's a AMD64 machine ?21:31
K350Torch: looks like they're enabld. But kwin is not my windowmanager now. How do I make it my defautl mannager, it's not in the list in systemsettings.21:32
TorchK350: can't you just check "use the default kde window manager"?21:33
bfigDaskreech, yes. i figured it had something to do with kms21:34
bfigie, it didn't work with debian either, but i don't know with which parameters i should boot. any suggestion?21:34
Daskreechbfig: if it helps -generic will do 64 bit if your hardware supports it21:34
bfigDaskreech, is there a way to avoid kms?21:35
Torchbfig: nosplash, i think21:35
bfigjust add that to the boot line21:35
Torchbfig: as a kernel parameter, yes.21:35
bfiggonna try, thanks21:36
bfigbe back in a second if it didn't work >_>21:36
bfigTorch, didn't work21:45
Torchbfig: what happened? you should have at least seen some messages now.21:47
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bfignope :|21:48
bfigscreen goes black, convulsing just as before21:49
DaskreechPerhaps noacpi ?21:51
Torchthis suggest "nomodeset" might help....21:51
TorchDaskreech: what would acpi have to do with it at that point in the boot procedure, though?21:51
MaxHRHow can I get Plasma Active installed on kubuntu?21:53
* Daskreech shrugs. Only thing I could think of that would make the screen go crazy21:53
Daskreechother than driver issues which shouldn't be that prevalent that early in the boot (I mean you had video before)21:53
TorchDaskreech: i would assume the kernel initializes the video card first of all... and this is what goes wrong for bfig... no?21:56
bfigTorch, i would guess. a friend told me it had to do with kms (since for example, in 2.4 i don't need to touch anything related to this)21:57
excognac_phew. 4.8 rocks. Special thanks to Daskreech and asfyxia21:58
Torchbfig: well, try the nomodeset parameter then21:58
bfigwhat about splash? should i erase that?21:58
Torchbfig: the nosplash parameter? no, keep it. it might come in handy to diagnose errors later on.21:59
Torchbfig: you can still remvove it once everything is working smoothly21:59
bfigok, but what does the 'splash' do (ie, i need to have at least one of them right?)22:00
Torchbfig: splash means you don't see the diagnostic messages during boot.22:00
bfigohh awesome22:00
bfigso nomodeset nosplash22:00
Torchbfig: but just some graphical animation of some progress bar thingy22:00
bfigno '-' ?22:00
Torchbfig: i'd go with that22:00
Torchbfig: nope22:00
bfiggreat. gonna try again :). thanks!22:01
* bfig takes the dive22:01
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excognac_just one consistent problem: I have my home folder on separate partition, and a another distro sharing this home folder on a third partition. Before the splash screen appears there is an error message on the top: couldn't mount the mentioned partitions22:02
DaskreechI probably wouldn't try sharing a home partition like that22:05
Daskreechupgrades on some packages could change configurations in the ~ that would make it impossible to be read by the older packages on the other distro22:06
bfigTorch, nomodeset nosplash works but no graphical mode22:23
Torchbfig: yes, not surpsringly. but that can be fixed.22:25
Torchbfig: what's your graphics card?22:25
bfigone sec22:25
bfig00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 964122:27
bfig <- Torch22:27
Torchbfig: happen to have this notebook or something similar: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Samsung/Series%203%20305V5A%20S01/wheezy22:30
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* Daskreech kicks chucknorris22:41
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:41
chucknorrisnot wise at all!22:41
* chucknorris roundhouse kicks Daskreech22:42
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* Daskreech lands back here after circumnavigating the planet22:46
bfigTorch, i am speaking from wheezy with the non free driver installed22:47
bfigTorch, to be honest, i just want to repartition the hard drive and i needed a livecd :D22:47
Daskreechbfig: hmm?22:49
bfigDaskreech, ?22:49
DaskreechYou need to burn a live CD?22:50
bfigDaskreech, what do you mean?22:50
DaskreechYou said you want to repartition the drive and you need a live CD22:51
bfigyes... i just need to resize the OS partition22:51
KimlarouxAnyone knows of an alternative to soundKonverter amarok script that works with amarok 2?22:52
Daskreechbfig: And you ahve no live CD?22:54
bfigi have... but up to now i couldn't boot it... now i can boot it but can't access gparted, so i'll have to find a way to resize the partitions from command line22:54
bfigDaskreech, ^22:54
Daskreechtry partitionmanager ?22:55
Daskreech !Info partitionmanager22:55
bfig!Info partitionmanager22:55
bfig!info partitionmanager22:55
ubottupartitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): A partition management utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 270 kB, installed size 1048 kB22:55
bfigDaskreech, anything in the kubuntu livecD?22:57
Daskreechparted ?22:57
bfigdoes it come default?22:58
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:58
DaskreechBetter :-)22:59
DaskreechThat's what does the resize when you install Kubuntu22:59
bfigso what do you recommend? should i use the installer to resize the partitions or just 'try' with nomodeset nosplash and commando it up?23:01
Torchbfig: if the installer works, why not use it?23:03
Torchbfig: i wasn't even aware it could do that.23:03
KC-45Daskreech....katapult ninja?..lol23:04
* Daskreech silences KC-45 with a rubber band launched Ninja star23:05
Daskreechbfig: the issue is on the Live CD you have no GUI?23:06
Daskreech Did you start up in safe video mode?23:06
jschallany issues with the backports ppa?23:08
jschallany issues with the backports ppa, on a scale of "nothing ever crashes now, even the program i specifically designed to segfault" to "oh god, there's smoke coming out of my computer?"23:10
alithanyone here?23:15
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:16
alithI need a little help: I can't manage to get the notification behaving exactly like I want... I found my way in customizing the notification, but didn't find a way to do exactly what I need for kopete.23:18
alithI'd like to have a popup notification whenever a contact change his/her status23:18
alithbut I don't want it to be stored in the notification widget from the taskbar23:19
alith(if I go away for say 2 hours, and since I've got 230 contacts in facebook, I will have 300 unuseful notifications... including a lot of: this guy has become available, this same guy is now offline)23:20
alithI don't know if it is a problem that I can resolve with the way the notification are sent, but I don't think so.23:21
alithWhat I was thinking about is to make a little script deleting the notification (or marking it as read) after a while, and calling it every time this type of notification is send.23:22
alithBut I have no idea of how to delete/mark as read a notification23:23
alithor how to retrieve the specific notification23:23
alithAnyone Any idea?23:23

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