[00:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gstBozWfhQ&feature=fvst === brent_ is now known as bwellsnc [01:06] I an running kubuntu 11.10 on my lenovo laptop. there is a problem : when I am using the keyboard in any program the cursor will frequently loose focus at random times. it does not do this in my windows partition nor does it do it with a live disk of the same distro. Any suggestions to relieve this frustrating bug would be greatly appriciated. [01:12] seawing: the cursor loses focus? [01:13] meaning I have to click with the mouse to continue typing. [01:14] like that window is no longer in focus. [01:14] and you aren't touching the touchpad while you are typing [01:14] ? [01:15] no. and like I said it doesn't do in when using a live disk. [01:15] I think you can use ksynaptics to turn off the touchpad when you are typing [01:15] let me try that again.... [01:18] nope. I checked the box that turns off the touchpad while typing and attempted to type a sentence in a browser and got cut off part way through. [01:19] it is really anoying when attempting to type in a hidden password field. [01:23] Well if it works in the same distro with a live Cd it's a setting since it's the same version that is installed [01:24] I dont think that it has to do with the touch pad. I suspect plasma but don't have any reason to back that up. [01:25] what other settings might effect this behavior? [01:26] it can't be plasma [01:27] ok. [01:27] Plasma doesn't do anythign with focus. It would be kwin but unless you have your keyboard remapped I don't see any reason why kwin would be switching windows while you were typing [01:27] does it happen everytime you are doing a particular password? [01:29] no. it hapens when I am typing an email in gmail, typing a document in libra office, typing a password for synaptic, typing a url in kunquror, etc. [01:30] Does it always happen when you type a password in synaptic? [01:31] no, sometimes I can make it through the entire phrase before it loses focus. sometimes I can type a couple sentenses before it happens, sometimes only a couple letters. [01:32] so it isn't jumping when you do something like press 'e' ? [01:32] or perhaps pressing two keys at the same time [01:33] I'll try that. [01:36] I'm looking to see if there may be some setting I've overlooked [01:37] no. I just tried going through the keyboard and it did it on y so I started over and the next time ie did it on - and the next time I made it all the way to n, [01:37] wait the installer will run updates as it installs won't it >_< [01:37] ? [01:37] can you pastebin ps aux ? [01:38] not sure where that is. [01:38] !pastebin [01:38] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:39] open a konsole and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ps aux | pastebinit [01:39] It will give you a url just paste that URL back here [01:40] I am typing from my desktop. I will open this in the laptop. [01:41] ok [01:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/824660/ [01:48] anything interesting there? [01:49] Not seeing anything that strikes me as stealing focus [01:49] Granted Kwin is very good at not handing over focus [01:49] Do you ever lose focus without typing on the keyboard? [01:50] you know it even does it whin I click on the k menu and am browsing for something. [01:50] Do you know where it loses focus to? [01:50] because the k menu closes when you lose focus it is obvious. [01:51] and the mouse is over the kmenu at that point? [01:51] yes. I can't figure out where it goes. it will do it when there is only one window open. [01:57] Which suggests the desktop. Do you have the desktop in your alt+tab listing? [01:57] I don't understand. [01:58] If you press alt+tab is your desktop one of the options in the list? [01:58] no [01:58] if all windows are closed alt tab does nothing [01:59] ah that might be useful if it loses focus you could hold alt+tab to see what grabbed the focus. if it's consistently the desktop then perhaps you have a rogue plasmoid abusing dbus? [01:59] you can add it in with alt+F2 -> switcher [01:59] ok, so I will open several windows and see what happens. [02:05] or you can add in the desktop :) [02:07] I don't follow what you mean about the alt+f2 switcher, but suddenly I cannot recreate the problem. I dont think I changed anything. [02:07] seawing: alt=tab switcher [02:07] alt+f2 is the krunner [02:07] Alt+tab [02:10] greetings! On the netbook version, how do you change/edit an icon? [02:10] I am going to restart it and see if the problem comes back. [02:11] THank you for your help by the way. will come back to it later. [02:13] ScottyK: right click? :-) [02:13] Probably long click [02:16] Daskreech - no effect. If I could find something simular to the kickoff launcher, I could get it. But can't find anything like that in the netbook [02:17] You just want to edit an icon? [02:17] actually #plasma might be a good place to ask [02:18] Daskreech - yes. One of the programs I use in WINE has a "?" for the icon. I'd rather it just have the wine goblet icon [02:19] Check in #plasma I think [02:20] Daskreech - Roger that, thanks! [02:21] is there something i can install so that when i plug in headphones it kills my normal speakers (hp notebook) right now i have to use alsamixer in a terminal to turn down the volume to my speakers [02:24] pulseaudio should be able to do that [02:27] did the 11.10 update default to gnomes login screen, instead of KDM, for anyone else? [02:30] ironfroggy: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" [02:30] thank you [02:30] Deskreech is that whats installed by default with 11.10? [02:31] i was really sad to see i'm still getting plasma freezes when i open the kmenu some times, after my 11.10 update :-/ [02:33] Daskreech: there is no slider in the kde mixer for speakers indpendent of the headphones output [02:43] so Amarok launches on start-up, but it's not in System Settings > Autostart; does anyone know how I can remove it? [02:43] dabbill: Yes [02:43] ironfroggy: Desktop effects on? [02:44] zorobabel: Session autostart perhaps? [02:45] Daskreech: no [02:46] Hmm :-/ [02:46] ironfroggy: only kickoff freezes the desktop? [02:48] possibly [02:48] let me check that [02:51] Daskreech: thats been whast i've seen for a while now. on multiple machines, too. [02:51] tho both of them were intel gpu thinkpads.. [02:54] ironfroggy: tried switching to classic menu or lancelot? [02:54] i have not. i dont really notice it much, so i never took the initiative [02:55] probably because i use the menu so incredibly rarely [03:04] ironfroggy: alright [03:10] hey all [03:10] how can I upgrade to mysql 5.5? [03:10] withou losing kde [03:10] !info mysql [03:10] Package mysql does not exist in oneiric [03:10] !info mysql-server [03:10] mysql-server (source: mysql-5.1): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 6 kB, installed size 96 kB [03:10] Daskreech 5.5 [03:11] Daskreech I already have 5.1 [03:13] https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/mysql [03:19] Daskreech so how do I install that such that it replaces the current mysql-5.1? [03:19] I tried installing 5.5 from a .deb, but it still retained 5.1 [03:19] and i can't remove all of 5.1 first, because kubuntu needs it [03:20] !ppa [03:20] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [03:20] !addppa [03:20] Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command « sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details [03:20] That should help [03:20] Daskreech right, I know. I'm asking ahead of time if it will replace the old version instead of just installing the new version on top of it [03:21] Well the person doing that PPA is doing it in preparation of having MySQL 5.5 on Ubuntu so I would think that it's a inplace upgrade [03:21] but of course I'm speculating [03:22] Daskreech alright, I'll try it. [03:22] thanks [03:23] !Info mysql-server precise [03:28] Daskreech possibly stupid question, but [03:28] The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810 [03:28] I'm not sure what keyserver to specify for gpg [03:29] It should be on the same website [03:29] ah, found it [03:29] thanks [03:30] great :) [03:31] Daskreech urgh. I still get the no pubkey error though [03:32] sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3823246F [03:32] possibly [03:34] Daskreech I already did that [03:34] copied and pasted your thing anyway though [03:34] same result [03:34] Oh then it really doesn't have a public key [03:34] so what do I do? [03:34] Never mind just suffer through the yes yes I really do want to install this yes I do yes yes ido [03:35] Daskreech what? [03:35] You should be able ot install anyway but it will complain endlessly about it not being signed [03:35] At least as near as I remember [03:36] Daskreech but doesn't it need to update my repos before I can even tell it what I want to install? === a is now known as Guest10856 [03:37] rufsketch1: sudo apt-get update is failing? [03:39] Daskreech yes, that's the one returning the pgp error [03:39] ok [03:40] http://www.stefanoforenza.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/launchpad-updatetar.gz [03:40] There is a script in there. Extract it and check if it's executable [03:42] Daskreech the script returns [03:42] cat: keyss: No such file or directory [03:42] rm: cannot remove `keyss': No such file or directory [03:42] rufsketch1: run it with sudo [03:43] I did [03:43] oh? give me a moment [03:46] Daskreech sure. [03:53] rufsketch1: try putting set -e as the line above if [.. "root" ]; [03:53] Run it again and tell me if you end up with a file named fullsourceslist ? [03:54] alright [03:55] Daskreech I do end up with fullsourcelist [03:56] can you pastebin that please? [03:56] http://pastebin.com/vw8bSRYe [03:57] Daskreech ^ [03:57] thanks [03:57] no, thank you. [03:57] !maverick [03:57] Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 [03:58] Daskreech what do I do with that? [03:59] rufsketch1: :-/ [03:59] can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? [04:00] Daskreech http://pastebin.com/9C08N9jN [04:01] The PPA isn't in there is it? [04:07] Daskreech in the sources.list? [04:07] Correct [04:07] I don't see the PPA at all [04:07] Daskreech neither do I [04:07] is that where ppa's generally get stored? [04:09] or in sources.list.d [04:11] Daskreech sources.list.d has the ppa [04:12] rufsketch1: Woohoo :) pastebin that [04:12] Daskreech sources.list.d is a director [04:12] y [04:12] directory [04:13] Daskreech the two relevant files contained therein are [04:13] clint-fewbar-mysql-maverick.list [04:13] clint-fewbar-mysql-maverick.list.save [04:13] do you want me to paste their contents? [04:13] rufsketch1: pastebin the .list [04:13] Daskreech it contains [04:13] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main [04:13] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clint-fewbar/mysql/ubuntu maverick main [04:14] Oh hmm [04:14] Do those exist? [04:17] ok [04:20] Daskreech so? [04:20] Why are you on Maverick? [04:21] Daskreech because it's my girlfriend's computer, and using a different system would lose a lot of programs she has set up [04:23] oh? [04:23] really? [04:23] like? [04:24] things we've had to compile from source === jmichaelx is now known as HexageSucks [04:24] an upgrade is out of the question right now either way. [04:24] I need to get this set up sooner than later [04:25] alright [04:25] Pull the lucid packages I would guess [04:28] change the word maverick in that PPA to say lucid === jmichaelx is now known as Robotek_is_Rigge [04:30] Daskreech alright [04:31] try the keyserver again and run sudo apt-get update [04:32] update seems to complete [04:33] alright try your server no === jmichaelx is now known as RobotekIsRigged [04:33] now [04:33] is there a way to preprocess webcam video before it goes out via skype? [04:34] Call Skype support? [04:34] Daskreech well, I still have to go and install it [04:34] Daskreech it doesn't seem to be showing up on apt-cache search [04:35] in windows it's a different app altogether bundled with the webcam. allows you to zoom, and tweak picture [04:35] rufsketch1: apt-cache policy mysql-server [04:36] Daskreech latest available is suppodly 5.1.49 [04:37] is tehre a way to route my webcam through vlc, in such a way that skype will recognize vlc's output as a webcam? [04:37] 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1 0 [04:37] 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages [04:37] 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe i386 Packages [04:37] 5.1.49-1ubuntu8 0 [04:37] 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages [04:37] benbloom yes, but I don't know of any out of the box solutions [04:38] meaning what rufsketch1? [04:39] meaning you might have to hack about a bit. [04:39] benbloom I know skype has a screen capture option [04:39] you could probably screen cap what vlc is showing [04:39] that would be the easiest way === RobotekIsRigged is now known as jmichaelx [04:40] but that wouldn't work for streaming would it? I'm hoping to capture my webcam with vlc, process it an dthen use the output from vlc as streaming video [04:41] isn't screen capture for stills only? [04:42] benbloom no [04:42] screen capture transmits video of what's happening on your screen [04:43] haven't used that feature rufsketch1. interesting idea [04:43] Oh yes, I have many of them. [05:30] I am still working on the loosing focus issue in 11.10 on my laptop. are there any other suggestions on what settings might be causing the problem? [05:36] helo === ceco is now known as vyrgozunqk [05:41] Have to say that I'm really looking forward to Precise. === ceco is now known as vyrgozunqk [06:14] hello [06:16] apt-get and apper seem to be out of sync... i can do an 'apt-get update', and then install a new package, and then apper _always_ complains after about security updates. am i doing things wrong? [06:17] i could have eliminated some variables, like do an apper update first, but i don't think that will have an influence [06:17] i assume apper and apt-get both use the same database, yes? [06:19] is there something else i should use, than apt-get, to install new packages with? i prefer command-line [06:26] well apper only checks so often, but if you do a manual check with it after you've installed using apt-get it should report correct [06:27] does 'apt-get install' perform any update to my local database? [06:29] originally i would do an 'apt-get install', and a minute later i would have a ton of updates from apper. thinking that i was installing old packages, i started doing 'apt-get update' before 'apt-get install', but this problem with apper hasn't gone away [06:30] it's more than a coincidence that apper reports that i need updates every time i use 'apt-get install' [06:30] it's always unrelated packages [06:31] i just installed lm-sensors, and apper wants to update xorg related packages [06:31] i might simply be doing things wrong [06:32] is what i'm doing an acceptable/efficient way to install new packages and maintain my system? [06:34] i have a good understanding of linux, but not kubuntu specifically. i just learned apper is a kde app a few minutes ago [06:34] i'm new to ubuntu aswell === hateball_ is now known as hateball [06:50] anyone know offhand how to get it so alt-left click gets passed to the application instead of moving the window? blender uses alt-clicks and I cant get it to recognize them [06:50] I looked in system settings but nothing I tried there worked [06:52] dahlia: i just tried alt left click, got nothing, you added it as a short cut? [06:52] no I just have default kubuntu [06:52] but alt-left moves the whole application window [06:53] dahlia: you right, i didnt do it correctly the first time [06:55] Ill ask in #kde also [07:44] hey guys, whenever I try to remove unity and its associated packages either via apt-get or Muon, it insists on installing gnome and associated packages-- how can I, uh, make it not do this? [07:51] zorobabel: what happens if you ask it (via apt-get) to remove both unity and the gnome stuff it tries to install? [07:52] I could try but it is somewhat annoying since the gnome stuff is about 30 packages [07:56] 1here we go [08:06] zorobabel: there is a easy way to wipe gnome from your system, assuming that you want to go pure kubuntu? [08:08] yes, I do [08:09] Hi, how can I apply this patch? [08:09] https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee-old/issues/149#issuecomment-3285349 [08:09] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde [08:10] xcorat: that's patch for nouveau graphics drivers? [08:10] looks good [08:10] yeah [08:10] zorobabel: assuming kubuntu is already installed you would leave the last install portion out [08:11] yep [08:11] xcorat: you need to get nouveau sources, apply the patch to the sources, and then build the drivers [08:11] zorobabel: one thing, if you need any apps from gnome after the fact they will need to be re-installed, most likely [08:11] xcorat: ...you have previous experience on compiling applications from sources? [08:12] Tm_T:you mean like ./config->make stuff? or somthin diff? [08:12] that, yes [08:12] Tm_T:whats the deal with diff file? how can I apply the patch, idk much [08:14] xcorat: maybe this explains? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch-file-using-patch-command/ [08:18] @Tm_T: so you just get download the files and the patch, and run patch < the input file path? [08:19] xcorat: yeah, but compiling nouveau drivers isn't that simple job I'm afraid [08:19] hm.. :) [08:19] i figured [08:19] i might try. [08:19] xcorat: if you're up for the challenge, go for it, only way to learn is to do (: [08:20] thats true.. but im wondering if its worth it. It seems there's no support yet for lenovo y470. [08:20] thanks a lot === munny_ is now known as munny [10:51] hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons [10:53] hi guys, after upgrading to 4.8 network manager shows weird buttons === James1479 is now known as James147 [12:28] bonjour [12:29] you ou [12:48] hi! does anybody know a good tool for generating and encoding barcodes? [12:51] FlashDeluxe: never used it, but kbarcode might work [12:51] o wait, thats old :S [12:52] yes^^ i would like to have one thats still supported :) === max is now known as Guest47536 [12:54] 1,1... [13:03] FlashDeluxe: cant really find any decent user end tools that are still updated, but there are a few libraries out there === yofel_ is now known as yofel === baris is now known as Guest3450 === Guest3450 is now known as baris_ [13:23] If I use Banshee will the Gnome libs use a lot of my RAM? [13:26] robertzaccour: depends on what you define as allot ^^ Though they should use that much [13:27] oh ok thanks [13:28] I figured out how to make playlists in Amarok nevermind I'm good :) thanks anyways [13:29] and wasn't sure about chromium web browser, but I wasn't about to stick with rekonq haha [13:37] hello, is there a tool that allows to send screenshots directly to imgur? [13:49] zlozlz: yes, use the pastebin plasmoid, take a screenshot and drag and drop it there [13:52] jussi: cool thanks [14:20] hi all [14:23] hello there [14:25] can anyone help me with some noobie questions? maybe in german? cus my english is realy bad =P [14:26] Grotz, #ubuntu-de for German [14:26] Grotz: there might even be #kubuntu-de [14:26] Grotz, you can certainly ask in english here though [14:26] ah, ok. thank u guys [14:26] !de [14:26] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [14:26] yep [14:28] @seek [14:28] @seek opera [14:28] dnovikov, need some help? [14:29] Thanks, [14:29] trying to remember how IRC works [14:29] THere is any FAQ? [14:30] dnovikov, for your irc client? for freenode generally? [14:31] how can i get a good security for my computer? is there to know whether or not my computer is keylogged? [14:31] * [14:31] probably for the client. I'll google it [14:31] a way [14:31] !crosspost | babalu [14:31] babalu: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [14:32] bazhang: sorry [14:32] dnovikov, #quassel is here on freenode [14:32] hmmm, maybe all afk in kubuntu-de. =D i will try my luck on english. and i'm sorry, im realy noob with computersystems. my first question is, how to install software on kubuntu 11.10? i found some informations about software-center and synaptic but i think this isnt the right one for kubuntu oO [14:33] Grotz, from the package manager? from the command line (ie konsole)? [14:33] !info muon [14:33] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB [14:33] i think i'm looking for an manager [14:34] !info muon [14:34] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB [14:34] argh xD [14:34] ok, this thing is crashing all times [14:34] Grotz, muon is? [14:34] segmentation fault (11) [14:35] try dpkg --configure -a [14:37] Grotz, don't use muon , it's broken [14:37] BluesKaj: lol [14:37] jovin where?^^ [14:37] in terminal [14:37] BluesKaj, what would be a good alternative [14:37] ah ok [14:37] lol? it's not funny , it's a fact :) [14:37] fixed it for me [14:37] synaptic adept or even apt-get in the terminal [14:38] muon works fine [14:38] BluesKaj: the UI, definitly. but at least the auto updater works in contrast to apper/kpackagekit^^ [14:38] despends on your updates and upgrades [14:38] jovin, its told me that i need super user rights [14:38] !netsplit [14:38] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [14:38] type sudo [14:39] sudo dpkg --configure -a [14:39] ok, asked for pw. typed it in... thats all... new bashline. nothing more [14:40] I use synaptic as an installer for meta stuff , butr mostly as a reference for info about available packages., all my upsates/upgrades are with apt-get [14:40] jovin, that's good , no errors [14:40] phat phingers [14:41] Grotz do this: [14:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/915235/comments/4 [14:41] ok, how to find/install new software now?^^ im realy noobie windows user. i only know how to dbl click an exe =P [14:41] Ubuntu bug 915235 in muon (Ubuntu) "muon-installer crash" [High,Confirmed] [14:42] n [14:43] italians? [14:43] Hi guyz [14:43] !it [14:43] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [14:43] I've got a silyl problem [14:43] thanks [14:44] I added a facebook widget and i cant remove it [14:45] I accidently addet it to a panel, not on the desktop [14:45] How can I remove it? [14:45] right click on it remove this widget [14:46] when i do that, there is only one option - reload [14:46] ooohhh i got it [14:46] it messed up my panel [14:47] i just had to right-click a few pixels away to do that [14:47] ;) [14:47] thanks! [14:48] Oh, and by the way, I found the way to install World Of Warcraft on kubuntu (installation on download) and i made it work perfectly! Someone wants to know how? :D [14:48] uncomment means del "# " ? [14:49] @Grotz - Yes [14:49] belfist: double clicked the installer? ;-) [14:49] belfist, Vbox ? [14:49] Grotz, correct [14:49] No, installing wow is not that simple ;D [14:49] I used wine, and wine tricks. [14:49] belfist: weird. it has been for me. [14:50] YOu didn't have problems with p2p downloading? [14:50] Launcher.exe was working fine? [14:50] belfist: yeah, i turned off p2p some time after 4.2 or so. [14:50] belfist: that problem hasn't always existed. [14:50] argh, need some write rights =/ [14:50] belfist: see the wine app db page about it. [14:51] I had to install directx dlls as well - [14:51] belfist: i don't remember doing that. also, make it use opengl. [14:51] That's the point! [14:52] how to get the rights to edit sources.list?^^ [14:52]